:01:39. > :01:41.Fit is a scheme to allow everyone access to their entire coastline.
:01:41. > :01:51.But gossip landowners say their concerns were ignored when the
:01:51. > :01:52.
:01:52. > :37:11.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2119 seconds
:37:11. > :37:15.Good morning. It is the star of up half that will help you what
:37:15. > :37:17.although we around the UK coastline that outdoor set landowners are
:37:17. > :37:22.seen their concerns were ignored when the first section of the
:37:22. > :37:28.scheme was set up. More on that shortly. First that is read the two
:37:28. > :37:33.politicians who are with us for the next 20 minutes. We have a Labour
:37:33. > :37:38.MP and a Conservative MP. News this week that we are going to provide
:37:38. > :37:45.even more school places in Hampshire. 1000 extra. 10 million
:37:45. > :37:53.was spent in Winchester. Building schools for the future. Would that
:37:53. > :38:01.have provided these places? We lost four or five new school programmes
:38:01. > :38:05.in Southampton. What has come in its place is a shadow of that. What
:38:05. > :38:09.we are doing in terms of capacity for the future is adding extra
:38:09. > :38:14.schools in a haphazard way rather than really going ahead with
:38:15. > :38:21.refurbishing and developing our schools as a whole. It started in
:38:21. > :38:25.the Midlands and the North. They have got new schools up there.
:38:25. > :38:30.was started a spark a comprehensive programme to revamp schools across
:38:30. > :38:33.the country and build new schools were they were needed. That was a
:38:34. > :38:40.programme that had the rug pulled out from under it. What has been
:38:40. > :38:43.put in its place is a few threads of what that were consistent off.
:38:43. > :38:53.That was the problem. It was a rather elaborate and expensive
:38:53. > :39:01.rack? It was never a large factor in my constituency. �10.4 million
:39:01. > :39:07.has been pledged by Hampshire County Council for this new scheme.
:39:07. > :39:16.But just a few threads compared to what should have been happening?
:39:16. > :39:24.is not. We needed that extra expansion on the existing schools.
:39:24. > :39:32.It is good news. But it is still not enough. The primary school
:39:32. > :39:36.shortage across the south is huge. We also need a new free school.
:39:36. > :39:38.us what some of these things work out. For the youngsters it is
:39:38. > :39:44.merely that time have you were your stories about schools banning
:39:44. > :39:48.playing with conkers on health and safety grounds. That old chestnut!
:39:48. > :39:51.It is part of a culture that sees the world was full of danger,
:39:51. > :39:55.especially for children. A new survey by the National Trust
:39:55. > :40:01.suggests that too many parents are denying their kids and adventurers
:40:01. > :40:04.shouted. I spoke to Alex Hunt from the National Trust. We have become
:40:04. > :40:07.increasingly concerned that children are not getting access to
:40:07. > :40:13.nature. Figures we have seen suggests that children are spending
:40:13. > :40:20.90 % of their time indoors. The amount of space that children
:40:20. > :40:26.Romain is getting smaller. It is in decline by 90 % in a generation.
:40:26. > :40:30.Children not getting the benefits of nature. They do not seem to
:40:30. > :40:34.getting it. We thought we should do some research. We asked what
:40:34. > :40:42.experts. We asked members of the public. We asked her parents. We
:40:42. > :40:46.talk to children. What are the reasons? The reasons for not going
:40:46. > :40:51.outdoors - there are a range of reasons. There are issues around
:40:51. > :40:59.parental angst. It is difficult to be a parent these days. There is a
:40:59. > :41:06.fear of traffic. There is a fear of access to space. So strangers in
:41:06. > :41:12.parks? That seems to loom large in people's minds. Things like access
:41:12. > :41:20.to safe green space came out clearly. There was all kind of
:41:20. > :41:25.anxiety. What should we do about it? This week we had a large sum at
:41:25. > :41:33.with a wide range of experts and organisations. We think there are
:41:33. > :41:36.things we can do a round different parts of the daily lives. There is
:41:36. > :41:46.something around health and safety and risk that we need to do
:41:46. > :41:46.
:41:46. > :41:51.something about. We need to focus on access to quality green space.
:41:51. > :41:57.People have told us, and this is the positive but, that we cannot do
:41:57. > :42:01.this alone. We have now got 50 organisations that want to start to
:42:01. > :42:05.work with us to identify some solutions. Great to hear you
:42:06. > :42:11.raising it. Why the National Trust? Surely you have to look up after a
:42:11. > :42:14.buildings not the nation's health? The countryside and the course runs
:42:14. > :42:24.through our veins. We were founded as an organisation which was about
:42:24. > :42:30.
:42:30. > :42:33.access to space. It is an important thing. It is that problem of trying
:42:33. > :42:39.to fill up children's time every minute. You have got young children.
:42:39. > :42:45.You do not want to leave them unsupervised. For you cannot. If
:42:45. > :42:49.you have got young children who have been up since 5 o'clock in the
:42:49. > :42:57.morning by 9 o'clock in the morning you are climbing the walls, let
:42:57. > :43:02.alone them. You have to let it out to let off steam. Do you let them
:43:02. > :43:11.out to the pack? They are too young. When they are older. Would you
:43:11. > :43:21.still worry about them at nine or 10? I would. I was talking to a
:43:21. > :43:25.
:43:25. > :43:35.friend who was a builder. He was talking about pots. Pons is a
:43:35. > :43:35.
:43:35. > :43:41.growing business. That sounds that. Especially since a lot of people do
:43:41. > :43:45.not have gardens. The National Trust's report underlines the fact
:43:45. > :43:55.that the right to roam for children is effectively one way or another
:43:55. > :44:01.
:44:01. > :44:05.gong. -- gone. Unless we get to grips with that, maybe it is
:44:05. > :44:15.bounded access to open space, we really will end up with a
:44:15. > :44:17.
:44:17. > :44:22.generation of children whose boundaries at a computer game.
:44:22. > :44:27.Without a big garden there is very little you can do. I asked my
:44:27. > :44:31.nephew was he looking forward to his summer holidays. He was going
:44:31. > :44:38.to play his PlayStation. He was not going to go camping. The mindset
:44:38. > :44:45.has changed. Bringing up young kids I am aware that while they laugh
:44:45. > :44:48.television, they have some television but not too much.
:44:48. > :44:56.reality is that children are going to be bound it. The risks are not
:44:56. > :45:01.quite what people think they are there. There will be concern about
:45:01. > :45:06.unfettered roaming. We need to bring in accommodation --
:45:06. > :45:09.combination of supervision and better roaming facilities.
:45:09. > :45:16.Labour conference is under way in Manchester. I caught up with the
:45:16. > :45:21.party leader Ed Miliband before he set off. The South of England has
:45:21. > :45:25.high cost of loving, crowded roads, many problems. If he were Prime
:45:25. > :45:29.Minister what difference would you make? That is the theme of our
:45:29. > :45:35.conference. How we will rebuild the economy. In terms of prices, energy
:45:35. > :45:40.bills. How we can get jobs in our economy. Would our young people
:45:40. > :45:44.back to work in particular. The rising number of young people out
:45:44. > :45:47.of work for a long time is a huge concern. Also meet the bank's work
:45:47. > :45:53.for small businesses. Those themes about how we get our economy
:45:53. > :45:56.working speak directly to people right across the region. The number
:45:56. > :46:00.of young to put out of work has been rising for some time, party
:46:00. > :46:06.because of the minimum wage which was a Labour initiative. A I do not
:46:06. > :46:11.win the minimum wage. I blame the economy that has not been growing.
:46:11. > :46:16.The tragedy of this us that we have young people not just out of work
:46:16. > :46:19.for six months or nine months, but two years or three years. We are
:46:19. > :46:23.seeing that the government could put people back to work. Even in
:46:23. > :46:27.opposition we will work with our local councils and others to say
:46:27. > :46:30.how can you make a difference right here and right out to young people.
:46:30. > :46:39.Even at a time of cutbacks his government is investing �1 billion
:46:39. > :46:43.in the use contract. 500,000 opportunities. That is the policy.
:46:43. > :46:46.But it is not working. It is not working because they are not do
:46:46. > :46:52.what we would do which is guarantee our young people a job if they had
:46:52. > :46:58.been out of work for more than one year. Private sector, but if
:46:58. > :47:02.necessary public sector. You're going to spend even more? Wheelspin
:47:02. > :47:07.that money better. It is a waste. It is a waste in terms of the way
:47:07. > :47:10.they are spending the money. We have said we would levy a tax on
:47:11. > :47:14.bankers bonuses. There is enough of that round. We would use that money
:47:14. > :47:18.to put young people back to work. It makes no sense for our economy
:47:18. > :47:22.to leave young people out of work. No sense for them. Well said for
:47:22. > :47:27.the country. In the south of England for private sector jobs are
:47:27. > :47:31.being created - Das that place need fuel to keep the golden goose liver
:47:31. > :47:34.and the X? I welcome the fact that the private sector is delivering
:47:34. > :47:38.jobs were effort has to have been dropped. But economic reality for
:47:38. > :47:41.most people does not feel like a job which economy at the moment. It
:47:41. > :47:44.feels like a struggling economy. Struggling in terms of living
:47:44. > :47:48.standards, employment, small businesses struggling to keep the
:47:48. > :47:54.head above water. I think we can change those things and that is
:47:54. > :47:59.what the corporate has sought out. What do you think? As the economy
:47:59. > :48:02.picking up? Yes. The Governor of the Bank of England beat some
:48:02. > :48:06.encouraging signs that other day. The media have a big role to play
:48:06. > :48:09.any be talking more positively about things. Ed Miliband big
:48:09. > :48:14.problem is that there is a huge credibility gap for the Labour
:48:14. > :48:24.Party. They enjoy the luxury of opposition. It is more than two
:48:24. > :48:25.
:48:25. > :48:29.years since the next election. -- until the next elections. But their
:48:29. > :48:35.policy is still more debt, financed by Ed Balls. At of us into this
:48:35. > :48:38.mess in the first buys. What you say to that? It is rather rich
:48:38. > :48:42.saying that the Labour party is interested in borrowing when
:48:42. > :48:46.actually as a result of the economy flat lining for the last two years
:48:46. > :48:53.we are going to be pouring 150 million more than we thought were
:48:54. > :48:57.going to all. The present Government is borrowing a large
:48:57. > :48:59.about the money with no result. That is the difference as to what
:48:59. > :49:05.we do his talking about this weekend and what we have seen so
:49:05. > :49:08.far as the flat by the economy goes. There may well be a little bit of a
:49:08. > :49:12.pick-up but we have lost over two years in the process we we could
:49:12. > :49:15.have been getting the economy back to work, getting the trots back,
:49:15. > :49:21.get in the taxes and, and making sure that the borrowing was law. We
:49:21. > :49:24.are in the worst of all rot at the moment. The Labour position is due
:49:24. > :49:29.for even more. Chocolate giving of people a future. Saddling them with
:49:29. > :49:32.more debt is not answer. Let us talk about creating jobs. Adviser
:49:32. > :49:35.to the company in Winchester last week were running a work programme.
:49:35. > :49:39.The work programme is making a positive difference in my
:49:39. > :49:44.constituency. People are being sent there from the JobCentre of they
:49:44. > :49:48.have been unemployed for more than six the organisation only get paid
:49:48. > :49:58.if you going to a job for six months or more. By that is not a
:49:58. > :49:59.
:49:59. > :50:04.guarantee. He is also saying he will find us by an ethical tax on
:50:04. > :50:07.backers bonuses. I sit there in the House of Commons every week and if
:50:07. > :50:11.you how many times the Labour Party has said this. It is laughable. It
:50:11. > :50:17.would be funny if it was not so serious. You cannot use spending
:50:17. > :50:22.the money over and over again. people going to trust Labour?
:50:22. > :50:32.far as some people are concerned unless we have at their end of that
:50:32. > :50:32.
:50:32. > :50:37.period the training, and I have visited an organisation in
:50:37. > :50:44.Southampton recently, and the fact is that after the training there
:50:44. > :50:53.are not a jot there. Hopefully there will be some more jobs. The
:50:53. > :50:58.economy we will be picking up. -- the economy may well be picking up.
:50:58. > :51:03.But at less young people have some hope at the end of a process in the
:51:03. > :51:10.been no outcome from this problem we have. Long-term unemployment for
:51:11. > :51:14.young people. Earlier in the summer the first stretch of what will be a
:51:14. > :51:17.coastal path stretching around the UK was opened in Dorset. Cause for
:51:17. > :51:23.universal rejoicing you might think. One of the glories of our
:51:23. > :51:33.countryside is now Mort accessible. That that old tension between
:51:33. > :51:34.
:51:34. > :51:37.landowners and ramblers has not gone away.
:51:37. > :51:43.Dorsets course is surely one of the most beautiful bits of coastline
:51:43. > :51:50.anywhere in the country. The starting but -- the starting point
:51:50. > :51:53.of an ambitious scheme to create up half around the English coast. This
:51:53. > :51:59.is the first stretch of the new coastal path to the crater that
:51:59. > :52:02.opened. Running from Portland and along the coast. Although some
:52:02. > :52:10.landowners have objected to new path has been welcomed by
:52:10. > :52:19.countryside campaigners. It is a magnificent section of the England
:52:19. > :52:26.coast. It is an extension of what we had already. There has been some
:52:26. > :52:31.improvements made to their alignment of the past. This coastal
:52:31. > :52:38.path as close to the sea. We have better views. We have better access.
:52:38. > :52:41.People can sit and have a picnic and look at the beautiful view.
:52:41. > :52:47.the country London Business Association say landowners are
:52:47. > :52:50.having their views ignored. There is supposed to be a fear violence
:52:50. > :52:53.between the interests of the landowner and the interests of the
:52:53. > :52:59.public in having access. When that has not happened and you have
:52:59. > :53:02.landowners subsidising public access. We have got access causing
:53:02. > :53:05.problems to businesses that should be taken account of. The normal way
:53:05. > :53:10.that has taken account will is by compensation but that is not
:53:10. > :53:17.happening here. There has to be extra-special care to take account
:53:17. > :53:27.of that landowners interest. This is for the first new the open
:53:27. > :53:29.
:53:29. > :53:35.stretch of the past ends -- of the path. The main lesson is that some
:53:35. > :53:40.landowners provide good access. There is little point and nothing
:53:40. > :53:45.to be gained by trampling roughshod will those landowners and ignoring
:53:45. > :53:49.their concerns and carry on as if that is never existed. They cannot
:53:49. > :53:52.have their cake and eat it. If they want us to manage it and maintain
:53:52. > :53:59.it but would have been fine, but they clearly do not. The what you
:53:59. > :54:03.did it on themselves. In my view the are ignoring their
:54:03. > :54:13.responsibilities. A scheme is being managed by natural England. Are the
:54:13. > :54:16.
:54:16. > :54:19.riding roughshod over landowners? We are not standing on people's
:54:19. > :54:29.doors in terms of what they do as a landowner or an occupier of the
:54:29. > :54:30.
:54:30. > :54:34.land. Will not spreading room increase the tension between this
:54:34. > :54:39.walkers and the landowners. Some would say it is greedy. You have
:54:39. > :54:42.got your patch. By Jules think it is greedy. People on naturally via
:54:42. > :54:46.a little bit from the path in any case. They will look at things.
:54:46. > :54:50.There are lots of path that are not actually the right of way because
:54:50. > :54:56.that is for people walk. I do not think it is greedy. It gives people
:54:56. > :55:01.a chance to get to the coast. having spreading room increase the
:55:01. > :55:10.tension between the walkers and landowners? There will always be a
:55:10. > :55:17.tension. We to take that into account. We need to be pragmatic.
:55:17. > :55:20.At the same time we have got to uphold the legal duty. There have
:55:20. > :55:26.been tensions between landowners and those who want greater access
:55:26. > :55:34.to the countryside for hundreds of years. There is no sign that these
:55:34. > :55:39.tensions will ease as the rest of the path is rolled out.
:55:39. > :55:49.Is this going to get better or worse this disagreement? I think
:55:49. > :55:53.there will be disagreements, but the marine and coastal Access bill
:55:53. > :56:03.had as its bottom line coastal access all around England and Wales.
:56:03. > :56:08.Wales have sorted that out. There were provisions in the act for
:56:08. > :56:11.proper negotiation and discussion but the bottom line is also access.
:56:11. > :56:14.Providing you do not take over the land and providing there is a
:56:14. > :56:21.reasonable amount of spread of going into the estate that should
:56:21. > :56:28.not be difficult to achieve. The core issue has committed to this.
:56:28. > :56:35.We said to be deliberate and we are. We said we would deliver it and we
:56:35. > :56:45.are. There has to be a sensible balance. We are doing it. Let us
:56:45. > :56:45.
:56:45. > :56:50.see how it goes. Then maybe review it down the line. It is a good
:56:50. > :57:00.thing. It isn't Ireland. We should be able to walk round it. Now a
:57:00. > :57:02.
:57:02. > :57:05.regular round-up of the political news.
:57:05. > :57:07.Putting the brakes on - Liberal Democrat in Brighton started their
:57:07. > :57:12.conference week 14 for more speed limits even if there is no money
:57:12. > :57:19.for enforcement. Morse speed limits are self-
:57:19. > :57:23.reinforcing. It was full steam ahead for our new supermarket at
:57:23. > :57:28.Bracknell. The heating comes from woodchip burners. Environment
:57:28. > :57:33.Minister that the technology. better to import sustainable wood
:57:33. > :57:41.chip from not America or Norway and to bring at sustainable polluting
:57:41. > :57:48.goal -- bring unsustainable fuel in. The minister for pensions laid a
:57:48. > :57:53.wreath. The formal naval base at is being
:57:53. > :57:58.brought into service. In rural housing meet the need for
:57:58. > :58:07.affordable homes has again been highlighted. We now need another
:58:07. > :58:10.100,000. We talked about overloaded roads
:58:10. > :58:20.and overloaded schools. More houses? Does Manchester need more
:58:20. > :58:22.
:58:22. > :58:26.houses. -- as Winchester need more houses? We need new houses. We need
:58:26. > :58:29.new houses across the country and across the south. As ever it is a
:58:29. > :58:36.matter of proportion. It is the right house in the right place for
:58:36. > :58:46.the right people. One council is building new council homes for the
:58:46. > :58:50.
:58:50. > :58:56.first time in 25 years. That is very welcome. Things have changed
:58:56. > :58:59.in the planning world. Things have changed but locals and still rules.
:58:59. > :59:07.The city council still has to make its local plan. The city council
:59:07. > :59:16.has made his choice. It has made provision for 4,000 houses. There
:59:16. > :59:21.is no doubt that the government will see more houses built.
:59:21. > :59:27.raise your eyebrows at woodchip being imported from abroad. Good or
:59:27. > :59:31.bad? A very good thing for heating and electricity providing it is
:59:31. > :59:41.sustainable. The importing well from Louisiana did we not ever be
:59:41. > :59:41.