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:01:16. > :01:26.countryside are going up faster than in cities but wages are rising more

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:01:26. > :40:22.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2335 seconds

:40:22. > :40:29.slowly and more under 30s are being talking about F thirtysomethings are

:40:30. > :40:35.being priced out of the rural market. The number of over 65 is

:40:35. > :40:45.moving in is going up. Let us meet the two politicians that will be

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:40:58. > :41:08.with us. Catherine Beard and Colin your slogan is, in Europe, in work,

:41:08. > :41:13.out of Europe, a top work. Really? Yes, many jobs are threatened if we

:41:13. > :41:22.are not part of the European Union. If we come out, it is estimated we

:41:22. > :41:27.would lose around 3 million jobs. It's not that sort of slogan on the

:41:27. > :41:37.Conservative Party. Like many political slogans, it is utterly

:41:37. > :41:45.vacuous. We need to be members of the single market, whether or not we

:41:45. > :41:54.are members of the European Union. Vacuous? I can think of some

:41:54. > :41:59.conservative slogans which are vacuous but what I stand for is

:41:59. > :42:05.being an active part of the European Union. This is important. We are

:42:05. > :42:13.third largest country in the union and we have a huge influence on what

:42:13. > :42:23.happens there. The European Union will continue to evolve and change

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:42:25. > :42:35.the trading rules and develop and we will be outside. We need all the

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:42:38. > :42:41.jobs we can get. The fact that we trade more with Europe than other

:42:41. > :42:51.countries like China is a disgrace so we may need to build more of

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:42:53. > :42:58.them. There are 500 million people in Europe so who do you think China

:42:58. > :43:08.would want to do a deal with? You know whether marketers. With the

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:43:11. > :43:20.world. House prices are rising faster than in urban areas and are

:43:20. > :43:25.pricing young people out of rural properties. Youngsters start in the

:43:25. > :43:35.bright lights of the city then they want a bit of peace and a move to

:43:35. > :43:38.

:43:38. > :43:45.the countryside. It's always been that way so what is new? They just

:43:45. > :43:54.can't afford to live there. They cannot afford to buy properties on

:43:54. > :44:02.the house market because rural house prices in the south-east have risen

:44:02. > :44:09.by 18% more than in urban areas. There is almost a democratic chasm

:44:09. > :44:16.between the young and old and it is a problem. Your report points to the

:44:16. > :44:25.fact that people need to do certain jobs in the countryside but they can

:44:25. > :44:30.still run the village store or whatever. We are seeing you need a

:44:30. > :44:35.mix and broad range of people working in rural towns and market

:44:35. > :44:44.villages. You need the older generation but he also needs younger

:44:44. > :44:49.people to keep the schools and shops and pubs open. In the south-east we

:44:49. > :44:55.have a particular problem and that is London. It seems to be a

:44:55. > :45:02.different country when it comes to prices. Historically we haven't

:45:02. > :45:10.built enough homes. What we are looking at in rural areas isn't

:45:11. > :45:19.building thousands or even hundreds of homes, it is often building ten

:45:19. > :45:25.or 12 homes in a rural area. What do you want to see done differently?

:45:25. > :45:28.The power is with the local people to stand up and say, we do need a

:45:28. > :45:33.small number of homes in this village to make sure that younger

:45:33. > :45:39.people can live here and children can grow up there. We want people to

:45:39. > :45:49.go onto our website and put in our postcode -- their postcode and

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:45:54. > :46:01.rights to their local MP asking for them to get rid of this mono

:46:01. > :46:11.demographic situation. Do we have to accept that house prices cannot keep

:46:11. > :46:11.

:46:11. > :46:19.rising and may have to fall? They have risen, especially those rural

:46:19. > :46:28.houses, because they have only built one or two houses in each village

:46:28. > :46:36.and we have ended up with four or five bedroom houses which are not

:46:36. > :46:43.the family houses that we need. Then you don't have anybody to teach in

:46:44. > :46:53.the schools or collect the dustbins or drive the buses. Is there a wider

:46:54. > :46:55.

:46:55. > :47:05.problem here? In the last 25 years, we have moved from a position of

:47:05. > :47:15.people viewing their home as an asset, using money they couldn't

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:47:18. > :47:28.afford to invest and that is what contributed to the economic crash.

:47:28. > :47:36.

:47:36. > :47:39.Are we at risk of heading towards another old? -- another bubble?

:47:39. > :47:49.is possible and we have to be very wary of creating this artificial

:47:49. > :47:56.

:47:56. > :48:02.house price rise. We need to enable anybody with any type of income to

:48:02. > :48:07.get on the property ladder. The Home Affairs Select Committee

:48:07. > :48:13.published a report into child sexual exploitation on Monday. It had

:48:13. > :48:18.things to say about how previous services have failed. The criticisms

:48:18. > :48:23.apply to the recent Oxford grooming trial.

:48:23. > :48:31.Vibrant and colourful, this road runs rights to the heart of the

:48:31. > :48:35.city. It is here that seven predatory men groomed young girls.

:48:35. > :48:42.They gave them gifts and sweetheart and then got them hooked on drink

:48:42. > :48:50.and drugs. They'd use the girls for their own pleasure and sold the

:48:50. > :48:55.girls to other men for sex. By the time they are finished, they are

:48:55. > :49:01.hollow. They are shelves of what they should be and the little girl

:49:01. > :49:10.that is in there is gone. This is just the latest in a string of

:49:10. > :49:18.high-profile exposes of gangs. The locations are different but the

:49:18. > :49:27.pattern is often the same. Men targeting young girls who are

:49:27. > :49:31.vulnerable. In Oxford, the agencies admitted they failed to stop the

:49:31. > :49:35.pattern of abuse quickly enough and a serious case review is now under

:49:35. > :49:41.way. Six or seven years ago, we had little understanding of organised

:49:41. > :49:44.sexual abuse. Many of these girls were repeatedly running away from

:49:44. > :49:49.home or from care and I think we knew that they were honourable but

:49:49. > :49:56.we had no understanding of the extent of the exploitation that was

:49:56. > :50:00.going on. Social workers were worried and parents were out of

:50:00. > :50:07.their mind. Everybody was concerned, they could say something rescue that

:50:07. > :50:15.was happening. I don't think anybody then, nearly ten years ago,

:50:15. > :50:25.understood the extent to what was going on. The home of the select

:50:25. > :50:33.

:50:33. > :50:39.committee published its report this into some very sad and tragic

:50:39. > :50:43.stories of abuse to girls. There has been a catastrophic failure by Paul

:50:43. > :50:53.Lee's, local councils and the Crown Prosecution Service which meant that

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:50:54. > :51:04.those appointed to protect the vulnerable girls have failed. --

:51:04. > :51:18.

:51:18. > :51:22.staff, medics and teachers so that they can spot signs. The report also

:51:23. > :51:32.asks for troubled children who have been exploited to be viewed as

:51:32. > :51:37.victims rather than colour but -- collaborators in their own abuse.

:51:37. > :51:42.What I find quite difficult to forgive is the allegation that this

:51:42. > :51:49.was a choice that the girls made. In evidence to the committee, I have

:51:49. > :51:56.heard this from social workers, to the police, to all sorts of

:51:56. > :51:59.different agencies. The select committee report says that there are

:51:59. > :52:05.still places in the UK where children are being failed by all

:52:05. > :52:11.qualities and where those who should be protecting them must bear

:52:11. > :52:21.responsibility. That famous carving above the Old

:52:21. > :52:23.

:52:23. > :52:28.Bailey seems to be needed now more than ever. Is it joined up thinking

:52:28. > :52:38.by the different agencies we need or is it a cultural shift? That is the

:52:38. > :52:48.start of it but I think there is something else. We do not serve

:52:48. > :52:51.

:52:51. > :52:56.these people and we betray them if we do not talk about this. This was

:52:56. > :53:06.organised abuse by people of Pakistani origin. I wonder if they

:53:06. > :53:06.

:53:06. > :53:16.felt constrained because they might be accused of racism. Political

:53:16. > :53:18.

:53:18. > :53:25.correctness? Yes, colourblindness. Do we have to be a bit more honest

:53:25. > :53:32.about what is going on? It is very difficult because, you are quite

:53:32. > :53:41.right, there has been tiptoeing around the race issue but, in fact,

:53:41. > :53:45.the evidence shows that most of the abusers are not Asian. What you find

:53:45. > :53:53.is that when you have gangs of predators, they stick together with

:53:53. > :54:03.their own community, with whatever race, whether it's football

:54:03. > :54:06.

:54:06. > :54:15.hooligans or gangs or whatever. They weren't all Pakistani, some of them

:54:16. > :54:25.were from Belize or other places. We needs to make sure that we listen

:54:25. > :54:32.and take action. Victims seemed somehow as collaborators in abuse.

:54:32. > :54:42.Only needs to make sure that people are understood to sometimes make bad

:54:42. > :54:45.

:54:45. > :54:55.choices and they many help? Yes, but the idea that girls of 11 or 12

:54:55. > :55:04.years old can be responsible. These are girls at the age when they

:55:04. > :55:09.should be innocent so it is wrong to view them as collaborators.

:55:09. > :55:18.cannot consent to sex under the age of 16 so seeing that these girls are

:55:18. > :55:24.off the rails or whatever, they still have to take action.

:55:24. > :55:29.We heard a lot about education this week. Plans were revealed by Michael

:55:29. > :55:39.Gove and the head of Ofsted criticised the country for failing

:55:39. > :55:47.to nurture its brightest pupils. Schools in Norfolk are looking at a

:55:47. > :55:57.new testing scheme. Two thirds of the schools are now assessed as

:55:57. > :55:57.

:55:57. > :56:05.being inadequate. This Ofsted inspection, this whole

:56:05. > :56:09.week of enquiries, do you welcome it? I certainly do. We have

:56:09. > :56:15.inherited areas the disappointing situation on the island. We knew it

:56:15. > :56:21.was going to be bad but there are so many challenges there. We are

:56:21. > :56:24.welcoming reports because we need to know where the failures are. It must

:56:24. > :56:31.be difficult for the teachers to have these reports but hardly

:56:31. > :56:36.welcoming at? I think they are. I have been speaking to head teachers

:56:36. > :56:39.and teachers and other professionals and they feel that it is a breath of

:56:39. > :56:46.fresh air and that we are listening to people who can actually make a

:56:46. > :56:52.difference. It is a difficult time but there are still strengths within

:56:52. > :57:01.those schools and it is about how we harness that and have the desire to

:57:01. > :57:11.do the right thing. It seems strange that that island's view of

:57:11. > :57:13.

:57:13. > :57:23.independence is to move in with Hampshire. We relate wants to go in

:57:23. > :57:24.

:57:24. > :57:29.partnership with an agency which has got capacity, skills and strengths.

:57:29. > :57:32.The critical thing is that we have got to do the right thing for our

:57:32. > :57:35.children and clearly we haven't got the capacity locally. We need to

:57:35. > :57:45.work with a partner and working with Hampshire is clearly the best thing

:57:45. > :57:55.for us. Couldn't you just let them be done rather than more

:57:55. > :57:58.

:57:58. > :58:07.reorganisation. -- let them head in. It is a partnership which can

:58:07. > :58:14.build our capacity. What Steve think about what Michael Gove is doing

:58:14. > :58:22.with exams? At a time when children are sitting exams, they are being

:58:22. > :58:28.told they are worthless. Yes, timing is everything. I'm concerned that we

:58:28. > :58:36.are going backwards. We seem to be diverging from what the rest of what

:58:36. > :58:43.Wales and Scotland are doing which is confusing for employers. We need

:58:43. > :58:53.regular, we need good education and it needs to be appropriate for what

:58:53. > :59:05.

:59:05. > :59:15.ever age the pupils are. What about letting teachers decide? We seem to

:59:15. > :59:17.

:59:17. > :59:21.have got into a situation where we are letting everything dumb down. I

:59:21. > :59:28.used to be very critical of my own shadow ministers when they would

:59:28. > :59:38.always question their improvements in the grades. They would always do

:59:38. > :59:39.

:59:39. > :59:44.it after the mum or the dad were celebrating the grades. You cannot

:59:44. > :59:54.criticise Michael Gove because he has been bringing this up every

:59:54. > :00:04.single month. I am keen on keeping coursework. I think some children

:00:04. > :00:05.

:00:05. > :00:08.are doing better. I think we should have streaming in schools. You

:00:08. > :00:13.wouldn't all go out and play rugby so why put all the children in the

:00:13. > :00:23.same class? Our regular round-up of the

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:00:28. > :00:33.The campaigns has started is to create rights of way through

:00:33. > :00:36.Oxfordshire wildflower meadows. Rare plants will be protected and opened

:00:36. > :00:43.up to study groups. There was concern this week about

:00:43. > :00:46.the rising cost of the headquarters of the South Downs Park.

:00:46. > :00:54.The controversy over closing children's heart unit is to keep

:00:54. > :01:01.turn in midweek. Jeremy Hunt backed objections. That outcome was based

:01:01. > :01:09.on a flawed analysis of the impact of incomplete proposals.

:01:09. > :01:14.John Denham said further delays were dangerous. Children will suffer.The

:01:14. > :01:19.UK's biggest solar farm has been planned.

:01:19. > :01:28.And we learned that people in Reading paid the biggest traffic

:01:28. > :01:38.fines in the UK, for doing things like driving in bus lanes.

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:01:39. > :01:43.Children's heart Hospital, things needed done desperately there.

:01:43. > :01:53.People seem to want to defend their local services even when they see

:01:53. > :01:57.

:01:57. > :02:04.they want to change the system. Is it just nimbyism? We asked the local

:02:04. > :02:12.hospital to publish the benefits case. 90% of it came back with black

:02:12. > :02:22.lines through it. This led to great suspicion about what they would

:02:22. > :02:31.

:02:31. > :02:40.plan. There needs to be transparency even F there are difficulties.

:02:40. > :02:46.nimbyism aspect of this, can we stop that? We can stop it if we have

:02:46. > :02:53.people involved early enough. When these decisions to close places come