02/03/2014

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:00:55. > :00:57.Morning folks. Welcome to the Sunday Politics.

:00:58. > :01:00.Fears that Politics.

:01:01. > :01:04.invasion escalate this morning as Russian forces take control of

:01:05. > :02:44.invasion escalate this morning as Crimea. President Obama and his

:02:45. > :02:46.invasion escalate this morning as taking no notice. This is now

:02:47. > :02:49.turning into the worst stand-off between Russia and the West since

:02:50. > :02:52.the conflict between Georgia and Russia in 2008, though nobody

:02:53. > :02:59.expects any kind of military response from the West. Foreign

:03:00. > :03:01.Secretary William Hague is on his way to Kiev this morning to show his

:03:02. > :03:05.support for the new government, though how long it will survive is

:03:06. > :03:12.another matter. We can speak to our correspondent David Stern, he's in

:03:13. > :03:18.Kiev. As things look from Kiev, can we

:03:19. > :03:24.take it they've lost Crimea, it is now in all essence under

:03:25. > :03:26.take it they've lost Crimea, it is control? Yes, well for the moment,

:03:27. > :05:03.take it they've lost Crimea, it is Ukrainians. They seem to be taking

:05:04. > :05:08.more of a long-term gain. They are waiting for the figs's first move.

:05:09. > :05:14.They are trying not to create any excuse that the Russians can stage

:05:15. > :05:19.an even larger incursion into Crimea or elsewhere, for that matter. They

:05:20. > :05:22.also seem to be trying to get international support. It should be

:05:23. > :05:25.said, this is a new Government. It has only been installed this week.

:05:26. > :05:31.They are trying to gain their footing. This is a major crisis

:05:32. > :05:35.They have to count on the loyalty of the army they might have some

:05:36. > :05:38.resistance from solders from the eastern part of the country

:05:39. > :05:39.resistance from solders from the Russian speaking. They probably

:05:40. > :07:22.could count Russian speaking. They probably

:07:23. > :07:29.on historical feelings of Russia being an imperial force.

:07:30. > :07:33.Joining me is MP Mark Field who sits on the security Security and

:07:34. > :07:38.Intelligence Committee in the House of Commons. What should the western

:07:39. > :07:44.response be to these events? I can understand why William Hague is

:07:45. > :07:52.going to Kiev tomorrow to stand side by side whizz whoever's in charge.

:07:53. > :07:54.They need to CEOP sit numbers and also President Putin. The truth is

:07:55. > :08:00.we are all co significant fatries to also President Putin. The truth is

:08:01. > :09:43.years ago may not be but the Kremlin's not

:09:44. > :09:48.watching how we voted on the Syrian issue? In relation to Syria, it was

:09:49. > :09:54.where is the western resolve here. The truth ask Putin's position is

:09:55. > :09:59.considerably less strong. In diplomatic terms. He had a victory

:10:00. > :10:04.in Syria in relation to chemical weapons and in relation to the

:10:05. > :10:11.West's relationship with Iran. Putin is a vital inter locking figure

:10:12. > :10:11.West's relationship with Iran. Putin demographic and economic terms,

:10:12. > :10:16.Russia's in very deep trouble. The demographic and economic terms,

:10:17. > :10:21.oil price started to fall to any degree,

:10:22. > :10:22.oil price started to fall to any importance of mineral wealth and

:10:23. > :12:00.exports for importance of mineral wealth and

:12:01. > :12:05.whole appetite for the reforms politically and economically will be

:12:06. > :12:10.closed very much within a matter of a short period of time. It has

:12:11. > :12:20.longer term implications. Mark Field, thank you.

:12:21. > :12:24.We're joined now by BBC News night's Diplomatic Editor Mark Urban. Is

:12:25. > :12:31.there any prospect of a western military response? Clearly at the

:12:32. > :12:36.moment, it is nil. The boat has sailed with the Crimean. It has been

:12:37. > :14:19.per performed by Russian forces It is now

:14:20. > :14:22.per performed by Russian forces It demonstrations, many extremists he

:14:23. > :14:27.was unable to deal with that. Now we have the other side, if you like,

:14:28. > :14:32.the Russian speakers, the other side of the fight, Russian nationalists

:14:33. > :14:39.showing they can get away with unilateral action more or less with

:14:40. > :14:44.impunity. The Ukrainian chiefs have been sacked. I think there are

:14:45. > :14:51.considerable questions now as to whether Ukraine is falling apart

:14:52. > :14:54.and, if that happens, we're into a Yugoslav-type situation which will

:14:55. > :14:59.continue posing very serious questions for the EU and NATO

:15:00. > :16:39.continue posing very serious months or years to come.

:16:40. > :16:41.continue posing very serious entire Ukraine to come into the

:16:42. > :16:46.Russian ambit. Barack Obama is saying this will not stand. He has a

:16:47. > :16:51.90 minute conversation with Vladimir Putin and what is his response? I am

:16:52. > :16:58.suspending my cooperation in the run-up to the Sochi Summit. What is

:16:59. > :17:02.the EU doing? Nothing. There is nothing they can do and Putin knows

:17:03. > :17:07.there are a series of lines that he is able to cross and get away with

:17:08. > :17:13.it. Why should Berlin, London, Washington be surprised by the

:17:14. > :17:18.strength of Vladimir Putin's reaction? It was never going to let

:17:19. > :17:20.Ukraine just fall into the arms of the EU. That is the interesting

:17:21. > :18:58.point. And the EU. That is the interesting

:18:59. > :19:00.control their own budgets, ushering in free schools, focusing on

:19:01. > :19:02.toughening exams and making them the core of the curriculum with less

:19:03. > :19:08.coursework, and offering heads more discretion on tougher discipline.

:19:09. > :19:12.And he is in a hurry to put all this in place. But has that shut out any

:19:13. > :19:17.chance for a Labour Government to change it all themselves and do they

:19:18. > :19:20.really want to? Any questions? Visiting a different school, first

:19:21. > :19:25.in line to get a crack at that Visiting a different school, first

:19:26. > :19:28.would-be Labour's third shadow education secretary since 2010,

:19:29. > :19:31.Tristram Hunt. In post, he has not been taken about fine tuning

:19:32. > :19:34.previous direct opposition been taken about fine tuning

:19:35. > :19:38.schools and he has also suggested teachers in England would have to

:19:39. > :21:16.schools and he has also suggested licensed under a Labour Government,

:21:17. > :21:38.schools and he has also suggested look at a serious review of

:21:39. > :21:41.accountability measures. That is really what ways on teachers every

:21:42. > :21:43.single day. Actually they would look at restoring the possibility, for

:21:44. > :21:45.example, of local councillors to be able to open schools. That seems

:21:46. > :21:48.eminently sensible. If they are not going to move back from the free

:21:49. > :21:50.schools and academies programme at the very least they need to say that

:21:51. > :21:53.academy chains will be inspected because at the moment they are not.

:21:54. > :21:54.Labour have balls in the air on education and are still throwing

:21:55. > :21:56.around precise policy detail. There education and are still throwing

:21:57. > :21:59.are areas that they could grab hold of and

:22:00. > :21:59.are areas that they could grab hold the rounding of the people,

:22:00. > :23:35.developing the rounding of the people,

:23:36. > :23:40.vocational education, making sure that the forgotten 15% is properly

:23:41. > :23:43.addressed in our education system. What we saw in your package was an

:23:44. > :23:47.interesting description of how we have seen structural reforms in the

:23:48. > :23:51.names of schools. Academies, free schools, all the rest of it.

:23:52. > :23:53.International evidence is clear that it is the quality of leadership of

:23:54. > :23:56.the headteachers and the it is the quality of leadership of

:23:57. > :23:59.teaching in the classroom that transforms the prospects of young

:24:00. > :24:04.people. Instead of tinkering around the names of schools, we focus on

:24:05. > :24:08.teacher quality. Viewers will be shocked to note that this Government

:24:09. > :26:04.approves of unqualified teachers in the classroom.

:26:05. > :26:06.approves of unqualified teachers in free schools, I think, would only be

:26:07. > :26:08.allowed where there is a shortage of places. That means that where there

:26:09. > :26:11.is an excess of bad schools, parents will have no choice. They still have

:26:12. > :26:14.to send their kids to bad schools. And we have to transform bad schools

:26:15. > :26:16.and that was always the Labour way in Government. At the moment we just

:26:17. > :26:18.have an insertion of new schools. Schools currently underperforming

:26:19. > :26:20.are now underperforming even more. Children only have

:26:21. > :26:22.are now underperforming even more. education. What about their time in

:26:23. > :26:24.school? Our focus is on the leadership of the headteacher and

:26:25. > :26:27.having quality teachers in the classroom. So they cannot set up new

:26:28. > :26:28.better schools and they have to go to the bad schools. Tony Blair said

:26:29. > :26:31.it should to the bad schools. Tony Blair said

:26:32. > :26:31.set up new schools where they are dissatisfied with existing schools.

:26:32. > :28:14.You are not saying that. dissatisfied with existing schools.

:28:15. > :28:18.the solution to that? Making sure we share excellence among the existing

:28:19. > :28:22.schools and making sure we have quality leadership in schools. Those

:28:23. > :28:26.schools in Stoke-on-Trent are all academies. It is not a question only

:28:27. > :28:29.of structure but of leadership. It is also a question of going back to

:28:30. > :28:33.the responsibility of parents to make sure their kids are school

:28:34. > :28:35.ready when they get to school. To make sure they are reading to their

:28:36. > :30:34.children in the evening. We can t make sure they are reading to their

:30:35. > :30:39.industry, the but also to get an apprenticeship at Jaguar Land

:30:40. > :30:45.Rover, JCB, Rolls-Royce. That is why Ed Miliband's focus on the forgotten

:30:46. > :30:48.15%, which we have just not seen from this Government, focusing on

:30:49. > :31:09.technical and vocational pathways, is fundamental to Your headmaster

:31:10. > :32:53.was guiles Slaughter. Was he a good teacher?

:32:54. > :33:06.This is the top Sundaytimes school of the year. The school in derby

:33:07. > :33:09.where this Government allowed unqualified teaching assist taints.

:33:10. > :33:12.We had teachers who could barely speak English. That is because if

:33:13. > :33:17.you have unqualified teachers you end up with a dangerous situation.

:33:18. > :33:22.The problem with that school was not unqualified teachers. People were

:33:23. > :33:26.running that school who were unfit to run a school. We have an issue

:33:27. > :33:29.about discipline to run a school. We have an issue

:33:30. > :35:07.management in some of our schools. Some of

:35:08. > :35:10.management in some of our schools. don't want to do this, will you fire

:35:11. > :35:14.them? It is not an unreasonable suggestion is that the teachers in

:35:15. > :35:18.charge of our young people have qualifications to teach and inspire

:35:19. > :35:24.our young people particularly when we face global competition from

:35:25. > :35:30.Shanghai, Korea and so on. The head teacher of Brighton college finds

:35:31. > :35:35.incredibly inspeechational teachers who don't' necessarily have a

:35:36. > :35:42.teaching qualifications. It is a different skill to teach ten young

:35:43. > :35:44.nice boys and girls in Brighton to teaches 20 or 30 quids with

:35:45. > :35:49.challenging circumstances, teaches 20 or 30 quids with

:35:50. > :37:26.ability. Being a teacher dining areas that are needed to feed

:37:27. > :37:29.so many extra youngsters. More on that shortly. First, let's meet the

:37:30. > :37:32.two politicians who'll be with me for the next 20 minutes. Annette

:37:33. > :37:35.Brooke is the Liberal Democrat MP for Mid Dorset and North Poole, and

:37:36. > :37:54.Penny Mordaunt is the Conservative MP for Portsmouth North. Let me ask

:37:55. > :38:01.you about Mike Hancock. Do you agree with Nick Clegg's decision to

:38:02. > :38:07.suspend him? I think Nick Clegg did the right thing when he had a

:38:08. > :38:11.situation put before him and it is important that everything takes its

:38:12. > :39:44.course and we don't make judgements in advance.

:39:45. > :39:48.seat, maybe not hold onto a Cabinet post. In Mike Hancock's case, he has

:39:49. > :39:53.also been ill, so I would have thought most people would have stood

:39:54. > :39:59.down, not been in the limelight, let it be worked out, have the proper

:40:00. > :40:06.investigation and court case and then concludes, and when people have

:40:07. > :40:11.had a rest, come back into a front`line role if they are all

:40:12. > :40:18.cleared. It is a bit odd that he has been so keen to still be there and

:40:19. > :40:22.it is peculiar there is no candidate standing against him. What do you

:40:23. > :42:04.think about Michael Fallon no point voting when they're being

:42:05. > :42:14.ignored by local politicians. It has already been decided. The

:42:15. > :42:20.government is not talking great things about us. Sometimes, people

:42:21. > :42:26.feel we are leftovers of the community and no one is looking

:42:27. > :42:30.after us, so we are here on a temporary vacation. But that's not

:42:31. > :42:33.true. People have lived in for nine years with a family.

:42:34. > :42:36.Now a group's been launched to try and encourage more of the estimated

:42:37. > :42:42.two million EU migrants to register and vote. Roger Casale is the chair

:42:43. > :42:44.of New Europeans and joins me now. How many people are we talking

:42:45. > :44:23.about? democracy. Democracy works better if

:44:24. > :44:28.all of those entitled to vote do so, and I appeal to the parties to do

:44:29. > :44:34.more to engage European citizens in this country, to understand their

:44:35. > :44:39.concerns and listen to them because there is a large number of votes up

:44:40. > :44:45.for grabs, not just for the European elections, but for local elections.

:44:46. > :44:59.3% of the electorate in the UK is made up of them. It does show how

:45:00. > :45:01.things are changing when you have so many people who have taken advantage

:45:02. > :46:43.of the free movement within has helped all political parties

:46:44. > :46:47.have a greater reach. Liberal Democrats seem to be moving towards

:46:48. > :46:57.this European election saying they are the party of in. We definitely

:46:58. > :47:06.want to get people out to vote who do believe we should stay in. That

:47:07. > :47:12.is a majority. I am concerned about the generally low turnout in

:47:13. > :47:24.European elections. We are lucky if we get 34%. It's very low. We are

:47:25. > :49:01.heading into an election. We are leaving an open goal for

:49:02. > :49:05.to vote more. Feeling they have a stake in the community is something

:49:06. > :49:10.that will encourage them to vote. They do have a big stake in this

:49:11. > :49:15.community in Southampton. If we can get it right with this group, if we

:49:16. > :49:19.can find a way to communicate with the EU citizens who feel more remote

:49:20. > :49:26.with our democracy, we can get participation wider.

:49:27. > :49:31.A free school lunch for every primary school pupil. It sounds like

:49:32. > :49:33.a great idea that nobody could have reservations about. But as our

:49:34. > :49:37.Dorset political reporter, Tristan Pascoe, has been finding out, there

:49:38. > :49:39.are a few snags in the funding. Maybe there really is no such thing

:49:40. > :51:23.as a free lunch. ticking. We are looking at less than

:51:24. > :51:28.two terms. We are in favour but we need to get on with it. The

:51:29. > :51:33.school's local authority in Bournemouth supports the idea but

:51:34. > :51:37.the council says it is still awaiting further information as to

:51:38. > :51:42.how it will all be funded. It says it is working out the capacity of

:51:43. > :51:46.its schools to prepare and serve thousands of extra meals. In Paul,

:51:47. > :51:50.the borough council says it is preparing for the impact of the

:51:51. > :51:57.scheme being rolled out as best it can. One of the things is the

:51:58. > :52:02.arrangements over mealtimes for children because we don't have the

:52:03. > :53:39.capacity to set them all at the same time. It

:53:40. > :53:51.additional morale `` additional equipment in staff. Those tables

:53:52. > :53:58.cost ?2000 a pop! This seat six. Is there any regret this promise was

:53:59. > :54:10.made? This is a policy which takes so many boxes colon health, `` boxes

:54:11. > :54:18.colon health. All of those things are incredibly important. It is

:54:19. > :55:58.really important that pilot studies have shown the benefits

:55:59. > :56:01.But I would say, let's look at the procurement of this. Those tables,

:56:02. > :56:08.dishwashers, let's have a sensible approach to buying in kit for

:56:09. > :56:16.schools. Things can always be done better. We have got a few months and

:56:17. > :56:22.everyone is settled on the fact this is a good idea. We have got to make

:56:23. > :56:25.happen. Asked as local MPs and councillors are there to facilitate

:56:26. > :56:32.that. If people aren't getting the money, we will get Michael Gove and

:56:33. > :58:17.a pincer movement! The pilots show In gender balanced terms, should we

:58:18. > :58:26.be doing this as well? It is true. It's really important you have role

:58:27. > :58:33.models. Pupils need to relate to family. Recycled clothes, I can

:58:34. > :58:42.think of some clothes of yours that might end up getting recycled! I am

:58:43. > :58:53.thinking of a swimsuit? I can't watch this! Did it take a while to

:58:54. > :00:41.get over that? Was it painful? Emotionally,

:00:42. > :00:47.Aspiration's always been our core value. About helping people get on

:00:48. > :00:49.with life. Giving people ladders of opportunity. That's why our symbol

:00:50. > :00:54.must reflect our opportunity. That's why our symbol

:00:55. > :01:02.aspiration and why I'm calling for our symbol to be changed from a tree

:01:03. > :01:05.to a ladder which symbolises social mobility and stands up for

:01:06. > :01:11.everything conservatism represents. I like an he will fanned, an animal

:01:12. > :01:15.that never forgets. We're the only party

:01:16. > :02:54.that never forgets. We're the only life was like before the NHS and

:02:55. > :02:57.that never forgets. We're the only went to privilege rather than earned

:02:58. > :03:01.income. Rebranding is not enough. The one question the modernisers

:03:02. > :03:09.never asked themselves when they took party ten years ago is the

:03:10. > :03:12.thing we know as the Conservative Party, salvageable as a brand? I'm

:03:13. > :03:18.beginning to think it isn't. If you look at all public opinion research,

:03:19. > :03:23.there are lots of people in this contrary with Conservative views.

:03:24. > :03:29.They won't vote Tory or contemplate the possibility of voting Tory. Can

:03:30. > :03:33.we get over the electoral problems by relaunching as a different

:03:34. > :05:13.we get over the electoral problems pro-business, pro-worker party.

:05:14. > :05:17.we get over the electoral problems Manchester. They have this terrible

:05:18. > :05:23.problem. You're right for them to pick up on the five Etonians writing

:05:24. > :05:31.their manifesto. David Cameron sir rounding himself with his own. He

:05:32. > :05:40.doesn't have to do that. I seas things like isn't Robert Halpen

:05:41. > :05:45.great. He decides and has his own. He has some more slightly common

:05:46. > :05:48.people from St Paul's! One of the ways the Conservatives

:05:49. > :05:48.people from St Paul's! One of the broaden their appeal is the tougher

:05:49. > :07:35.line on immigration. broaden their appeal is the tougher

:07:36. > :07:39.about it. Immigration, even if they were meeting the target, I don't

:07:40. > :07:44.think the public would believe it. It is like crime a few years ago,

:07:45. > :07:49.the crime rates had been declining for the best part of 20 years but

:07:50. > :07:55.the fear of crime remains high. There's such a degree of cynicism

:07:56. > :07:58.that regardless of your administrative record in Government,

:07:59. > :08:04.the public will remain hostile to you. This is where Nigel Farage can

:08:05. > :08:07.be potent. He said it is not about numbers. It is about

:08:08. > :09:51.be potent. He said it is not about is about people seeing

:09:52. > :09:56.come in until their economies grow. That's future accession states.

:09:57. > :10:00.That's Turkey in ten years' time It is causing divisions with the

:10:01. > :10:04.coalition. She's bashing Vince Cable. You often see Liberal

:10:05. > :10:09.Democrats bashing the Tories. You don't often see a Tory minister bash

:10:10. > :10:13.Vince Cable. She does on the immigration figures. He thought they

:10:14. > :10:18.were good news. Last week, Vince responded to the news by saying it

:10:19. > :10:22.was a policy he was happy for the gift to flunk. The problem was going

:10:23. > :10:26.for a cap. There are six moving parts. UK citizens leaving,

:10:27. > :12:14.for a cap. There are six moving back. EU citizens leaving and coming

:12:15. > :12:24.whether this has worked. It has been described as an historic moment and

:12:25. > :12:30.incremental of what John did. The trade union block voters disappeared

:12:31. > :12:37.a long time ago. They still have 50% of the vote. But 2,000 of union

:12:38. > :12:42.members voting for this guy has gone. It is a reform from 20 years

:12:43. > :12:47.ago. Welcome but not historic. Ed Miliband's stored up trouble. Len

:12:48. > :14:31.McCluskey wants a million new homes