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:01:16. > :01:18.While the new Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood makes her pitch for

:01:18. > :01:28.real independence' the Welsh Conservatives gather in St Asaph to

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:01:31. > :01:41.defend the future of the Union. We would like us the conflicting

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:01:41. > :32:00.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1818 seconds

:32:00. > :32:03.messages throughout the spring Hello, I'm Aled ap Dafydd and on

:32:03. > :32:06.the Sunday Politics Wales. It's a double dose of spring conferences,

:32:06. > :32:09.but the messages are poles apart. The Welsh Conservatives gather in

:32:09. > :32:12.St Asaph to defend the union while Plaid Cymru leave Ffos Las

:32:12. > :32:16.racecourse and start a journey towards independence. Leanne Wood

:32:16. > :32:19.made her maiden conference speech in which she made the case for real

:32:19. > :32:29.independence by strengthening the economy. The likely outcome will be

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:32:29. > :32:33.debated by Labour's Vaughan Gethin and Bethan Jenkins from Plaid Cymru.

:32:33. > :32:38.Before we debate independence, we have the Budget last week. The

:32:38. > :32:43.decision to abolish the PPP rate of income tax seems to be a wise one

:32:43. > :32:53.bearing in mind that the decision to raise it up to 50 pence in the

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:32:54. > :32:57.first place was not raising the cash it was meant to. In terms of

:32:57. > :33:01.priorities and the message you send out, I don't think it is clear how

:33:01. > :33:04.they expect to recover that money. There is an assumption that people

:33:04. > :33:10.will come back and start paying tax when they are not doing so now.

:33:10. > :33:14.What it has done is given tax cuts for about 14,000 millionaires and

:33:14. > :33:18.squeeze income for pensioners and normal working people who will feel

:33:18. > :33:24.the pinch and yet again. Is there anything in the Budget that you

:33:24. > :33:27.welcome? On the pensioners, I have had many people contact me, very

:33:27. > :33:31.concerned that they are being targeted when times are tight, when

:33:31. > :33:35.they are thinking about their future. This is something we need

:33:35. > :33:42.to get to grips with. Wouldn't it be great if we have more powers in

:33:42. > :33:46.Wales so we could determine our own futures? What I will say is that I

:33:46. > :33:52.think we have not been consulted by the Welsh government or the

:33:52. > :33:56.National Assembly for Wales. George Osborne has not truly considered

:33:56. > :33:59.the realities of Wales and his punishing those in society who are

:33:59. > :34:02.the poorest instead of those who should be paying more. We will take

:34:02. > :34:05.that as a no. The Plaid Cymru's Spring conference

:34:05. > :34:07.came to an end yesterday, but the Conservative Spring rally is being

:34:08. > :34:16.held in St Asaph. The Welsh Secretary, Cheryl Gillan, has told

:34:16. > :34:20.delegates that -- has addressed delegates. Let's work together in

:34:20. > :34:25.the fight for the very future of our country, the United Kingdom. A

:34:25. > :34:30.country which provides stability and security, and which proves that

:34:30. > :34:36.we are stronger together than we are a part. So it ladies and

:34:36. > :34:40.gentlemen, let's go out there and let's take those seats and let's

:34:40. > :34:47.take the Conservatives in Wales from strength to strength. Thank

:34:47. > :34:50.you very much. So, a big weekend the Conservatives

:34:50. > :34:53.as they prepare for May's council elections. Our correspondent, Tomos

:34:53. > :34:56.Livingstone, met up with Andrew RT Davies, the Conservative leader in

:34:56. > :35:00.the Assembly, on his farm in the Vale of Glamorgan to talk about

:35:00. > :35:05.their rally. The backdrop to your Valley is the

:35:05. > :35:09.Budget last week and in that Budget is what amounts to a tax rise for

:35:09. > :35:15.many pensioners. Doesn't that make it difficult when campaigning in

:35:15. > :35:21.local elections? No. We are seeing an increase in the state pension of

:35:21. > :35:25.�5.30, the introduction of the triple lock on pensions. When you

:35:25. > :35:30.compare that to what Labour did when they in government, which is

:35:30. > :35:37.raised private pensions and also have a 75p increase per week, that

:35:37. > :35:40.shows a commitment to pensioners or stuck but is it that scenting --

:35:40. > :35:49.but isn't as sending a wrong message to pensioners?

:35:49. > :35:52.This Budget was built on prosperity, jobs and prosperity. We have got to

:35:53. > :35:57.make sure there is confidence in the economy and that companies can

:35:57. > :36:03.invest, create jobs and opportunities. For pensioners,

:36:03. > :36:06.there will be a �5.30 increase in week as of April 1st and that is a

:36:06. > :36:11.vital ingredient to make sure that we are protecting pensioners.

:36:11. > :36:16.Looking at the local elections, you have majority control in Monmouth

:36:16. > :36:20.and the Vale of Glamorgan. Are you going to move beyond that and vote

:36:20. > :36:25.Conservative in other areas of Wales? There are various indicators

:36:25. > :36:28.to show how successful we are. We are going to be, for the first time,

:36:29. > :36:33.campaigning and having candidates in all local authorities across

:36:33. > :36:37.Wales. We will have record numbers of candidates at in the field so

:36:37. > :36:41.people have the opportunity to vote Welsh Conservative come May 3rd,

:36:41. > :36:47.and above all we will be articulating the positive messages

:36:47. > :36:56.from the councils that we have a running. We have a council tax

:36:56. > :37:00.raised in porn -- Monmouth. In Monmouth Show, local taxpayers know

:37:00. > :37:03.well that when councillors they elect spend their money, they can

:37:03. > :37:07.see where it is being spent. We have got to be standing up for the

:37:07. > :37:11.health service against Labour's cuts and protecting our education

:37:11. > :37:15.across Wales. If we do not have a bright future for young people,

:37:15. > :37:22.what future will there be for this country? For would be a good result

:37:22. > :37:27.for the Welsh Conservatives? Ultimately it is a foolish

:37:27. > :37:30.politician to determine what the electorate will decide. We will put

:37:30. > :37:34.a strong platform out there, greater transparency, protecting

:37:34. > :37:37.our health service, those are vital ingredients for people to have

:37:37. > :37:41.confidence in the Conservative message and make sure that there

:37:41. > :37:45.are candidates across Wales so people can vote was conservative,

:37:45. > :37:48.and ultimately challenged all local authorities to make sure that when

:37:48. > :37:52.people consider their boat, they have that opportunity to vote Welsh

:37:52. > :37:55.Conservative. We'll be doing our part and we hope that the

:37:55. > :38:00.electorate respond by looking at the positives in the Vale of

:38:00. > :38:02.Glamorgan and Newport, and in Monmouthshire and in North Wales

:38:02. > :38:06.where we helped run councils to make sure that people know

:38:06. > :38:10.Conservatives are on their side in these difficult times. While this

:38:10. > :38:14.is going on, the commission was looking at possible tax increases

:38:14. > :38:21.in the Welsh government. Some Conservative MPs are in favour of

:38:21. > :38:24.that now, where the Stan? We looked into this issue of this goal

:38:24. > :38:29.responsibility and ultimately, it is all but there is no

:38:29. > :38:33.accountability in this area. �15 billion is sent down from

:38:33. > :38:37.Westminster and all we have is a government that fritters that money

:38:37. > :38:41.away and the taxpayer who is paying that money cannot hold people to

:38:41. > :38:44.account in Cardiff Bay. What I believe it is that we need fiscal

:38:44. > :38:47.responsibility so there is accountability. The measure of that

:38:47. > :38:51.we should lead to the commission to determine because ultimately, it

:38:51. > :38:55.has been set up by West minister to look at a range of issues and they

:38:55. > :39:01.should be allowed the space and opportunity to come up with

:39:01. > :39:06.deliberations. We will not of folk running commentary on deliberations.

:39:06. > :39:09.I know they will be very objective. Thank you very much.

:39:09. > :39:12.It's also been a big few days for the new Plaid Cymru leader, Leanne

:39:12. > :39:15.Wood. The party has been holding its Spring Conference at Ffos Las

:39:15. > :39:25.racecourse in Camarthenshire and when I spoke to her I began by

:39:25. > :39:27.

:39:27. > :39:32.asking if she was still pinching herself after her recent victory.

:39:32. > :39:36.Congratulations on your victory. started to sink in a bit now,

:39:36. > :39:40.especially after the conference this weekend. It was a whirlwind of

:39:40. > :39:47.a week. We have had a really successful conference and I really

:39:47. > :39:55.sense there is a huge gain from my leadership. A lot of party members

:39:55. > :39:58.are at the moment actually trying to cover your back in terms of the

:39:58. > :40:03.local elections not been a referendum. When the think it would

:40:03. > :40:08.be right for the electorate to judge how well you are doing?

:40:08. > :40:14.want to see gains over time, I am not expecting to see a huge change

:40:14. > :40:18.around in a short period of time. Over the next year or two, if we

:40:18. > :40:22.can start seeing a movement in the direction in support for more

:40:22. > :40:26.independence, that would be something but I think would be a

:40:26. > :40:31.great achievement. We can make some advances in the local elections,

:40:31. > :40:35.but I think that our main aim will be to look at the next assembly

:40:35. > :40:40.elections to increase the size of the assembly group. You are saying

:40:40. > :40:46.that you understand and share the concerns of the people in your back

:40:46. > :40:52.yard he would naturally vote Labour. How much do you think the you --

:40:52. > :40:56.you will have to do to win back the support which will party had back

:40:56. > :41:01.in 1989 but which has disappeared since then? We have got a lot of

:41:01. > :41:05.work to do, there is no question about that. I'm not expecting big

:41:05. > :41:09.changes in the short term, but generally, politicians have a lot

:41:09. > :41:13.of work to do now because so many people are disillusioned with

:41:13. > :41:17.politics in general. But time is something which is not often

:41:17. > :41:21.offered to politicians, especially a party leader. But time is what it

:41:21. > :41:24.takes, I'm afraid, and people need to be realistic about what we can

:41:24. > :41:28.expect to achieve as well. The economic crisis has meant that

:41:28. > :41:33.people are looking for different solutions and I am hoping that

:41:34. > :41:43.under my leadership, I can become a different an attractive party to

:41:44. > :41:44.

:41:44. > :41:48.people who are looking for that. I will aim to win seats right proud

:41:48. > :41:52.Wales, but if we cannot dent Labour's majority in some of those

:41:52. > :41:56.Valley seat then we will be going in the right direction. But winning

:41:56. > :42:00.valley seats means that you will then have a chance of forming the

:42:00. > :42:03.next government. It you do not make that breakthrough, he will at best

:42:03. > :42:07.be the second largest party. Are you saying that the only way back

:42:07. > :42:11.into government is that a Coalition? Ultimately I bought my

:42:11. > :42:15.party to be the biggest party in the assembly. I have one for us to

:42:15. > :42:20.govern alone, but I don't think we will be able to do that in one term.

:42:20. > :42:23.It would be fantastic if we get, and I'm not going to limit the

:42:23. > :42:27.ambition in any way, but to be a realistic we would need to do that

:42:27. > :42:31.over more than one term. If we take a Valley seat in the next assembly

:42:31. > :42:35.election, I would be overjoyed. I will be working to that end, but we

:42:35. > :42:41.have to be realistic about what it we can expect to achieve. Plaid

:42:41. > :42:48.Cymru would have to be a party of government to be can see there be a

:42:48. > :42:51.referendum on independence. How long do you think it would take for

:42:51. > :42:56.Plaid Cymru to be in government for that question to be put in front of

:42:56. > :43:00.the Welsh people? In Scotland it has taken two terms. The SNP formed

:43:00. > :43:04.a minority government and now they are a majority government and the

:43:04. > :43:10.referendum will take place during this second majority SNP government.

:43:10. > :43:13.I think that that is not unreasonable for asked to see a

:43:13. > :43:17.similar situation in Wales. believe not at the next assembly

:43:17. > :43:21.election, but the one after that that you can conceivably see a

:43:21. > :43:25.Plaid Cymru government, a majority government? I don't put a time

:43:25. > :43:29.frame on this, but that would be something that we should certainly

:43:29. > :43:34.aim for. Ultimately of course, any move towards independence would

:43:34. > :43:37.have to be done with the support of people in Wales and we would be

:43:37. > :43:41.working to take people with us every step up the way. It would

:43:41. > :43:45.take a huge transformation for that to come about, because if you look

:43:45. > :43:50.at the amount of support which Plaid Cymru has at the moment in

:43:50. > :43:54.the valley seats, you're not even polling 30 %. But it was a huge

:43:54. > :43:57.transformation that a place in Scotland. If you look at the

:43:57. > :44:01.Central Belt between Glasgow and Edinburgh, they were solid areas

:44:01. > :44:05.for Labour in the past. They are not any more. If the SNP can

:44:05. > :44:12.achieve that in Scotland, I cannot see any reason why Plaid Cymru

:44:12. > :44:17.cannot achieve that in Wales. you very much.

:44:17. > :44:22.What does the concept of real independence mean? I think what

:44:22. > :44:26.Lehane is trying did it is to form a late policy around the concept of

:44:26. > :44:30.independence. In the past, Plaid Cymru have been guilty of saying we

:44:30. > :44:34.want independence, but not looking at why they wanted it in the gums

:44:34. > :44:38.of Environment, natural resources, and so forth, criminal justice.

:44:38. > :44:41.What Lehane is going to be doing now that she has announced the

:44:41. > :44:46.Commission on economics which Adam Price will be doing -- are heading,

:44:46. > :44:50.is to get to grips with what that will mean in real terms. If you are

:44:50. > :44:56.selling it to the people of Wales today, of what would independence

:44:56. > :45:02.mean? We had the Budget last week, what with the tax be? We have to

:45:02. > :45:06.have these commissions now. I believe that we will put all of

:45:06. > :45:10.these ideas together. People have been this Union has offered them.

:45:10. > :45:14.The Budget has not delivered for the Welsh. We have this commission

:45:14. > :45:19.now and we are asking for more powers over our own financial

:45:19. > :45:23.resources, over our own natural resources for a start, water, for

:45:23. > :45:27.example we have a wealth of resources. Let's have that debate

:45:27. > :45:32.in Plaid Cymru now under new leadership and let us go forward in

:45:32. > :45:36.that positive manner. You are obviously not in favour of

:45:36. > :45:40.independence, but isn't there inevitability about the change in

:45:40. > :45:44.relationship between the countries which form the United Kingdom?

:45:44. > :45:47.There is nothing inevitable about the change. There will be an

:45:47. > :45:52.ongoing conversation with it and the union about where devolution

:45:52. > :45:55.starts and ends. I want to see an end point where there is a settled

:45:55. > :45:59.picture across the UK. That is important. But I think the bigger

:45:59. > :46:04.problem we have -- that Leanne Wood has is that she is going in a

:46:04. > :46:09.direction where the public are not with her. She is trying to make the

:46:09. > :46:15.real case for independence and that is a fairly substantial trashing of

:46:16. > :46:25.Plaid Cymru's history. I think the case has been made and the public

:46:25. > :46:29.do not buy it. Are you saying that if Wales was to have further fiscal

:46:29. > :46:33.devolution that would then be the end.? That is a conversation you

:46:33. > :46:38.have to have with people of Wales, but also across the whole union.

:46:38. > :46:42.is that a settlement you would want to see? It depends on how each

:46:42. > :46:46.party relates to one another. I think there has to be reform around

:46:46. > :46:50.the UK parliament as well. The second chamber could be an obvious

:46:50. > :46:54.way to balance representation across the Union. You have to think

:46:54. > :46:57.about devolution across England as well. The conversation I want to

:46:57. > :47:03.see happen is that, but I am clear that people do understand there are

:47:03. > :47:07.benefits in the union and that is what the opinion polls reveal. They

:47:07. > :47:11.reveal little support. I don't think setting yourself up as a

:47:11. > :47:15.party of constitutional change first is helpful. I want to be part

:47:15. > :47:22.of a party, I am part of a party where social justice improvement

:47:22. > :47:28.and quality is the priority. Can we look at the upcoming turf warfare

:47:28. > :47:33.between Plaid Cymru and Labour? Similar votes now, bearing in mind

:47:33. > :47:38.Leanne Wood's tendencies. She said that it was unlikely that Plaid

:47:38. > :47:46.Cymru would win the majority at the next assembly election. How long do

:47:46. > :47:50.you think it would make for them to get a breakthrough? Leanne Wood

:47:50. > :47:54.comes from a place where she wants to support an element of the party

:47:54. > :47:58.in areas where perhaps we have not had the same resources that we may

:47:58. > :48:03.have had in the past. What we need to do is make that claim, showing

:48:03. > :48:09.that we are the main opposition to Labour in places like Talbot.

:48:10. > :48:14.People are coming to worse and saying, like that -- Labour are

:48:14. > :48:19.complacent and they are not listening to us. What we talk about

:48:19. > :48:22.independence been something holistic, we need to say that Plaid

:48:22. > :48:26.Cymru is there to push up the change will stop we would not have

:48:26. > :48:29.got devolution apart from Plaid Cymru in existence. We have to set

:48:30. > :48:34.the agenda for independence now. We have doubt that conversation with

:48:34. > :48:41.people, not all sit on them, but say what would be the benefits of

:48:41. > :48:48.an independent Wales. Can you envisage a period before the next

:48:48. > :48:52.assembly election way you will be friends again, or has Leanne Wood's

:48:52. > :48:57.presence as a frontline left of centre party leader made that

:48:57. > :49:01.virtually impossible? At variance points, I would like there to be

:49:01. > :49:07.co-operation between different parties. We have half the seats so

:49:07. > :49:11.we cannot behave like a majority, but there romp more fundamental

:49:11. > :49:16.questions about why your priorities lie as a party. Leanne Wood has

:49:16. > :49:21.just started and I think there will be real difficulties for her in

:49:21. > :49:24.serving up a logical case. For example a position on pay, Plaid

:49:25. > :49:32.Cymru are essentially in favour of all Wales pay structures. Most

:49:33. > :49:37.people see that as reasonable pay. I don't think that is the sort of

:49:37. > :49:42.thing that people will want to vote for so wrapping it up in a flag and

:49:42. > :49:46.saying that we are interested in independence is where the public

:49:46. > :49:49.are. Thank you for now. Tuesday saw Leanne Wood make her

:49:49. > :49:53.debut at First Minister's Questions. All eyes were watching to see how

:49:53. > :49:56.the new leader would get on - her performance, as a colleague put it,

:49:56. > :49:59.was "safety first". With a woman leading Plaid Cymru there is now a

:49:59. > :50:02.changing dynamic in Welsh Politics which means that Kirsty Williams is

:50:02. > :50:09.no longer the only female party leader. Here's a little flavour of

:50:09. > :50:13.First Minister's Questions. Can I urge you at this time ahead

:50:13. > :50:18.of tomorrow's announcement to make a specific commitment to arrange a

:50:18. > :50:22.meeting this afternoon between the four of us in this chamber so that

:50:22. > :50:25.we can immediately it seek agreement in Wales on cross-party

:50:25. > :50:31.statement which should be presented to the Chancellor ahead of the

:50:31. > :50:36.Budget announcement tomorrow? afternoon may be difficult given my

:50:36. > :50:41.timetable. Perhaps we should wait and see what the other parties say

:50:41. > :50:44.regarding whether they will join us. A more confrontational approach

:50:44. > :50:49.came on the leader of the Welsh Liberal Democrats, Kirsty Williams.

:50:49. > :50:53.I thought this session was titled questions to the first minister. Of

:50:53. > :50:57.course if he would like to swap places with myself -- myself, I

:50:57. > :51:02.would be happy to take him up on the offer! After the session, I met

:51:02. > :51:09.up with Kirsty Williams to discuss this.

:51:09. > :51:13.Being the only female leader in the Liberal-Democrats was York US P.

:51:13. > :51:17.The appeal threatens by Leanne Wood? I am very glad not that that

:51:17. > :51:21.issue pointed at me all the time. When I first got here, I was the

:51:21. > :51:25.youngest woman here and I was glad to lose the tag. I am equally glad

:51:25. > :51:28.to see other women making it to the top a Welsh politics. I hope it

:51:28. > :51:32.serves as a role model to demonstrate to people across Wales.

:51:32. > :51:35.I hope we are taking lessons in England as well that women can get

:51:36. > :51:40.to the top of politics. It is something that you can combine with

:51:40. > :51:43.a family life. Is there anything in the make-up of

:51:43. > :51:48.women that make for better politicians? The thing that you get

:51:48. > :51:53.anything more out of first Minister's Questions? Really by the

:51:53. > :51:56.fact you are a woman? I don't think so. There are some fantastic male

:51:56. > :52:03.politicians and some lousy ones, and I think you get the same with

:52:03. > :52:09.the now politicians. Very often, women in politics raised different

:52:09. > :52:13.subject than men and if women were not there, certain subjects would

:52:13. > :52:18.not be given the airing and the debate time than if it was simply a

:52:18. > :52:22.male orientated chamber. One issue that is raised often is that it is

:52:22. > :52:27.hard for women to strike a balance between a career in politics and

:52:27. > :52:32.bringing up a family. Is there more that could be done in that regard?

:52:32. > :52:34.It is a real challenge, but politically it that -- particular

:52:34. > :52:38.aspects of that are pointed out women because traditionally women

:52:38. > :52:43.are considered as being the main carers are women, but they play to

:52:43. > :52:46.some of my male colleagues who have young children as well.

:52:47. > :52:50.Increasingly as men look to have a greater involvement in their

:52:50. > :52:55.children's lives, it can be tough for them. What has changed, it is

:52:55. > :52:58.not that women have taken a leadership positions, but

:52:58. > :53:01.politicians are becoming younger. If you look back, people were

:53:01. > :53:05.getting to the top that their careers when their children had

:53:05. > :53:10.grown up, but now we are seeing leaders in all areas of Parliament

:53:10. > :53:16.meeting that level when they have young children at home. It is a

:53:16. > :53:21.tell us what everyone. I am yet to find the ultimate solution to

:53:21. > :53:26.solving that issue. Perhaps Lianne and I can sit down and have a

:53:26. > :53:29.discussion about it because we all have a young families.

:53:29. > :53:37.Two women at the top. Is it him Borton, should it make any

:53:37. > :53:41.difference? -- is it important. you look at Labour, at the start of

:53:41. > :53:44.devolution, we had a difficult debate in our party to guarantee a

:53:44. > :53:47.significant level of female representation. That has changed

:53:47. > :53:55.the quality of debate within the assembly and I am glad we did it.

:53:55. > :53:58.Those women have not just come in like that. You have had serious

:53:58. > :54:01.female politicians making decisions and taking responsibility. That is

:54:01. > :54:06.a good thing for world politics. But I always thought that politics

:54:06. > :54:10.was about policy, not about whether you were male or female? Yes, but

:54:10. > :54:14.at the end of the day, we need to encourage women to get involved in

:54:14. > :54:19.politics because it has been dominated by men for some 80 years

:54:19. > :54:21.-- so many years. In our local authorities, there is a

:54:21. > :54:27.predominance the four men to stand. Women may not have the confidence

:54:27. > :54:30.to put their names forward. Seeing Lianne and Kirsty at the helm, that

:54:30. > :54:35.is going to inspire a new generation of young women to come

:54:35. > :54:41.forward and to feel that they have a place. That is how I felt before

:54:41. > :54:43.I joined Plaid Cymru. I saw Leanne Wood as an inspiration. Positive

:54:43. > :54:49.discrimination for female shortlists has been a toxic matter

:54:49. > :54:53.in the past. Are you in favour of that? I am in favour of positive

:54:53. > :54:57.action because people like myself and people like Leanne Wood would

:54:57. > :55:01.not be standing here today if we did not have that support. You can

:55:01. > :55:05.give all the training in the world, but you have to have certain

:55:05. > :55:10.measures. It is no surprise that it was Plaid Cymru and Labour that

:55:10. > :55:17.they put that into place which is why we did have more representation

:55:17. > :55:23.from Women in the National Assembly. When you are dealing with a been a

:55:23. > :55:28.politician, is it any different was that no. I do not have any

:55:28. > :55:32.compunction in dealing with -- disagree with the mild politicians

:55:32. > :55:38.banned male politicians. It does broaden the nature of the debate

:55:38. > :55:44.and changes some of the weight bad -- the way that change comes around.

:55:44. > :55:49.Kirsty was very aggressive in how she dealt with first minister's

:55:49. > :55:53.questions this week. Having a softer approach does not

:55:53. > :55:57.necessarily guarantee that you will be more effective, but if you look

:55:57. > :56:01.at the way Leanne Wood approached First Minister's Questions, it

:56:01. > :56:04.wasn't aggressive. I'm not sure about the gimmick of, let's meet

:56:04. > :56:14.this afternoon, but different ways can be effective.

:56:14. > :56:18.

:56:18. > :56:23.Time now for a quick look back at The first minister Carwyn Jones

:56:23. > :56:28.represented the six nations Trophy to the Welsh team as a thousands of

:56:28. > :56:32.rugby fans gathered to celebrate the Grand Slam success. Leanne Wood

:56:32. > :56:36.appointed the former MP Adam Price to head of economic Commission to

:56:36. > :56:42.develop the party's vision for the party.

:56:42. > :56:46.John Griffiths have ruled out a Budget cut as a way of stopping the

:56:46. > :56:49.spread of TB. There will be a vaccination problem.

:56:49. > :56:52.In the Budget the Chancellor announced enhanced capital

:56:52. > :56:57.allowances for the boss government's enterprise zone. From

:56:57. > :57:04.next month, companies investing in plant and machinery will be able to

:57:04. > :57:08.offset that expenditure against tax. This man called for tree lovers to

:57:08. > :57:12.help conserve end ancient tree in the Commons New Palace Yard. He was

:57:12. > :57:22.worried that the Indian bean tree might be removed to make way for

:57:22. > :57:24.

:57:24. > :57:34.the -- make way for the Jubilee Let's take an issue relevant to

:57:34. > :57:35.

:57:35. > :57:45.each of your parties. Adam Price heading this commission. Everyone

:57:45. > :57:49.in the party now has a huge role to play. I am sure that the expense

:57:49. > :57:53.will be used by Leanne Wood as part of her future team. -- the

:57:53. > :58:03.experience. Everyone will have to come up with good -- with the good

:58:03. > :58:06.

:58:06. > :58:11.Where is the new science which suggests that that is the correct

:58:11. > :58:16.move? If you look at the reports, it went through a number of factors

:58:16. > :58:26.that would lessen the specific impact and value of a cult. We

:58:26. > :58:27.

:58:27. > :58:34.heard this week that one in four of those animals are expected to have

:58:34. > :58:39.TB. It does not guarantee that there will be an eradication of TB.

:58:39. > :58:44.It is not even the majority caused of TB in badgers. The other point

:58:44. > :58:47.is you have to think about the potential.