:00:53. > :00:58.It is decision day for greases the country goes to the polls for the
:00:58. > :01:05.second time this year. It could plunge Europe into economic chaos.
:01:05. > :01:09.That is our top story. During the first Gulf war, Britain sent 53,000
:01:09. > :01:19.troops to the Middle-East along with hundreds of tanks. Could we
:01:19. > :01:23.send anything like that kind of firepower again.
:01:23. > :01:29.And we have had Prime Minister after Prime Minister after Deputy
:01:29. > :01:35.Prime Minister giving evidence to the Leveson Inquiry this week. Is
:01:35. > :01:38.this creating a chilling atmosphere towards freedom of speech? All that
:01:38. > :01:43.and the best political panel and the business of looking forward to
:01:43. > :01:47.the week ahead and tweeting throughout the programme.
:01:47. > :01:51.Later in the programme, young people petition assembly members to
:01:51. > :02:01.back what they call living wage but does the business community like
:02:01. > :02:01.
:02:01. > :27:58.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1557 seconds
:27:58. > :28:02.You're defence spending, you assume it starts to rise again by about
:28:02. > :28:11.one per cent in real terms after 2015, but the Chancellor has now
:28:11. > :28:15.told us there has to be more public spending cuts in 2016 and 2017.
:28:15. > :28:25.1% increase is only on the equipment programme. Our budget has
:28:25. > :28:26.
:28:26. > :28:32.been built on the assumption, which is agreed with the Treasury, that
:28:32. > :28:40.there will be a 1% increase. That is the commitment that has been
:28:40. > :28:45.made to us by the Treasury. It is approaching 12:30pm. Coming
:28:45. > :28:55.up and 20 minutes, they look at the week ahead with a political panel.
:28:55. > :28:58.
:28:58. > :29:02.Until then, Sunday politics across the UK.
:29:02. > :29:08.If on the Sunday politics Wells, app should Welsh employers pay what
:29:08. > :29:14.has been described as a living wage? That is �7.20 an hour. Some
:29:14. > :29:16.think not in the current economic climate. A changed policing.
:29:17. > :29:26.Elected police commissioners are coming soon but do you know when or
:29:26. > :29:29.more importantly what they will do? It is Mark's first time in the
:29:29. > :29:33.Sunday politics you feel that I am sure he knows what he is doing.
:29:33. > :29:39.Good afternoon. One story dominating the political agenda
:29:39. > :29:45.today which are the elections in Greece. This debate by of austerity
:29:46. > :29:50.verses the daylight - where you stand and where would you vote go?
:29:50. > :29:55.I understand the situation in Greece's very serious and the
:29:55. > :29:59.austerity budgets are not working. The result has been that time after
:29:59. > :30:03.time whenever they go there, the results are worse than not better.
:30:03. > :30:09.The general argument, whether Greece needs more austerity it or
:30:09. > :30:14.more economic growth, I do not think there is any argument at all.
:30:14. > :30:20.Across Europe, we will not get out of the predicament we are in by
:30:20. > :30:23.slowly strangling our economies. Business leaders are warning the
:30:23. > :30:28.Welsh government not to push for private sector pay rises because it
:30:28. > :30:33.could stop them from taking on more staff on even result and lay-offs.
:30:33. > :30:43.The warning comes as ministers investigate wage levels across
:30:43. > :30:47.Wales. Proponents of a living wage for all
:30:47. > :30:51.set at more than �1 above the minimum wage argue we could cut
:30:51. > :30:58.poverty levels and leaves firms with a healthier and happier and
:30:59. > :31:04.hard-working staff. It is something campaigners have patient --
:31:04. > :31:07.petitioned the Assembly for this week. I see people in my community
:31:07. > :31:14.working for long hours and they are left with not enough money to pay
:31:14. > :31:20.for the essentials. It is not fair they get to -- do not get a laugh
:31:20. > :31:24.and healthy and happy life. I am doing my GCSEs and I want to make
:31:24. > :31:28.sure that after doing all that effort, there is going to be a job
:31:28. > :31:36.out there and I am going to be able to make enough money to make ends
:31:36. > :31:40.meet. We have 200,000 children living in poverty in Wales today.
:31:40. > :31:44.The shocking fact is that 60% of those families have at least one
:31:44. > :31:49.parent who is in work. We know that if we started to pursue a living
:31:49. > :31:52.wage policies across the public and private sector here, we would put
:31:52. > :31:56.money into the pockets of the parents of children who are
:31:56. > :32:05.struggling with the current economic situation. It is a direct
:32:05. > :32:09.way to tackle child poverty. Welsh Labour's manifesto committed it to
:32:09. > :32:15.pursuing a living wage for everyone in Wales, which includes the cost
:32:15. > :32:20.of raising a family. Academics have estimated that the living wage is
:32:20. > :32:26.no lower than �7.20 an hour. The current statutory minimum wage is
:32:26. > :32:32.�6.80 an hour. Ministers are looking at where other devolved
:32:32. > :32:38.public sector bodies stand on the issue and encourage them to become
:32:38. > :32:42.a living wage employers. If we are the trailblazers, we hope the
:32:42. > :32:46.private sector will not be so frightened of it and will see the
:32:46. > :32:51.benefit of a workforce which when the a healthy and happy work harder
:32:51. > :32:57.and stay for longer. Welsh NHS workers and Welsh government civil
:32:57. > :33:01.servants already receive a living wage or more. A number of big
:33:01. > :33:06.private sector employers including Barclays Bank are also signed up to
:33:06. > :33:11.paying it. Business organisations are warning Welsh ministers not to
:33:11. > :33:18.try to force them to raise wages. For example, by inserting a living
:33:19. > :33:23.wage clauses and government contracts. What we're proposing is
:33:23. > :33:27.that this new living wage becomes the minimum wage. Lots of companies
:33:27. > :33:33.that I speak to that lot to be in a position to bring in more employees
:33:33. > :33:37.but anything like this at this time, anything that would hinder them,
:33:37. > :33:43.which they would like to do, is going to cause problems and I am
:33:43. > :33:48.afraid it is not realistic. We have to look at it from the employer's
:33:48. > :33:54.perspective. The ACE an increase would deter them from taking on
:33:54. > :33:59.staff and that force would week to lay-offs. Supporters of the living
:33:59. > :34:03.wage say they're important and practical questions here. Should
:34:03. > :34:09.staff be paying -- employers be paying staff so little their
:34:09. > :34:16.earnings have to be topped up through benefits? Employers have
:34:16. > :34:22.warned anything that increases the costs could damage job-creation.
:34:22. > :34:27.Are these calls for a living wage some kind of recognition that the
:34:27. > :34:35.minimum wage was set up to low- level by the Labour government?
:34:35. > :34:38.man on wage is what it is. It was a flower and it was a expected to
:34:38. > :34:41.cover all consistencies. I am a strong supporter of a living wage
:34:41. > :34:49.and what it does is to set a level where were people unable to meet
:34:49. > :34:54.from their own wages and without the need for state subsidies, and
:34:54. > :34:57.the basic costs of an ordinary living standard. What we heard of
:34:57. > :35:03.there was a tension between increasing wages and also keeping
:35:03. > :35:06.staffing levels. The indications in that piece where that if you
:35:06. > :35:10.increased the salary levels of some workers and some companies, the
:35:10. > :35:15.offshoot of that would be the have to get rid of staff to make up for
:35:15. > :35:21.it. That was the argument put forward by opponents of the minimal
:35:21. > :35:29.wage introduced back in 1987. The issue of a fair day's pay for a
:35:30. > :35:39.fair day's work as an issue in it areas like the is a I come from in
:35:40. > :35:43.
:35:43. > :35:49.North Wales. One of the things in agricultural and rural communities
:35:49. > :35:54.is that the central government has done away with wage councils which
:35:55. > :36:01.regulated the rates of pay given to people in that sector. Up what was
:36:01. > :36:07.interesting in Adrian's film was that, apart from the experts and
:36:07. > :36:12.pundits, people were talking about the expectations of the income from
:36:12. > :36:16.when they start work. There were worries and from young people.
:36:16. > :36:22.There is no requirement on companies to do so but some
:36:22. > :36:27.companies have signed up so there is Ombersley some will towards it.
:36:27. > :36:31.-- obviously. It is a matter now after the local government
:36:31. > :36:35.elections in May this year to work with the new local authorities. I
:36:35. > :36:40.was really proud last week that Birmingham, a local authority taken
:36:40. > :36:50.back by Labour, announced last week that it would in future be a living
:36:50. > :36:50.
:36:50. > :36:58.wage employer. Securing half the Assembly seats last year, Labour
:36:58. > :37:02.have still not made any impact. They were regained by Labour and
:37:02. > :37:05.the council elections a few weeks ago so there is a good bit of
:37:05. > :37:09.timing here. The Assembly government has been there for a
:37:09. > :37:13.year and the Welsh Government is now living wage employer. We are
:37:13. > :37:17.now able to work with more Labour local authorities in Wales and I am
:37:17. > :37:22.optimistic that we will see Welsh local authorities are moving in the
:37:22. > :37:26.same direction as Birmingham and the Scottish local authorities and
:37:26. > :37:32.set themselves up as a living wage employers will step what about the
:37:33. > :37:38.argument that this is a backdoor way of increasing the minimum wage?
:37:38. > :37:43.This is the classic debate. I mentioned earlier in the discussion
:37:43. > :37:49.this was made when introducing the minimum wage, how do you set in
:37:49. > :37:57.comes and wages? Do you allow the market to regulate itself up or do
:37:58. > :38:02.you have a more regulated form? This is a classic economic and
:38:02. > :38:09.political argument. We have been here before back in at the early
:38:09. > :38:16.days of the first Labour government. Putting it into a wider context
:38:17. > :38:22.across the area, it is a challenge. It is an issue that arises in all
:38:22. > :38:26.aspects of policy. When people hear the right words, the expected eight
:38:26. > :38:32.actions to follow. When they see and hear the Assembly government
:38:32. > :38:38.committing itself to a living wage and committing local authorities to
:38:38. > :38:45.being blooding wage authorities, they expect actions to follow. --
:38:45. > :38:51.living wage. The Welsh government has a target of eradicating child
:38:51. > :38:55.poverty by Twenty20. It is now throwing a new policy it there to
:38:55. > :39:05.increase wage levels. Is that recognition of the fact that what
:39:05. > :39:05.
:39:05. > :39:11.they have tried so far as spelling? -- is failing. Trying to eradicate
:39:11. > :39:14.child poverty, the first steps are the easiest. You can reach the
:39:14. > :39:19.family's closest to the poverty line and move them up. Moving
:39:19. > :39:24.further on, you need that further set of policies to reach those
:39:24. > :39:28.families further away from the policy line. -- poverty line. The
:39:29. > :39:34.next steps will be harder and more work is needed and a softer policy
:39:34. > :39:43.is just what is required. In just a few moments time, there
:39:43. > :39:45.significant change happening with power police forces or run. Elected
:39:45. > :39:53.police commissioners will replace the existing police are authorities
:39:53. > :40:02.with the abilities to set police budgets and higher chief constables.
:40:02. > :40:08.-- hire. On 15th November, the public will be invited to vote for
:40:08. > :40:11.who they want to oversee their police authorities. There will be
:40:11. > :40:16.elections for the public to vote for their preferred candidate in
:40:16. > :40:21.terms of who they want to set local police priorities and strategy. Not
:40:21. > :40:26.to deliver policing, that will be in the hands of the Chief Constable,
:40:26. > :40:34.but to provide a framework in which the Chief Constable pursues his
:40:34. > :40:39.political strategies. How big a change is this? This is potentially
:40:39. > :40:44.a very significant change to police governance. It is a unique system.
:40:44. > :40:49.There is nothing like this around the world so it is pretty unique.
:40:49. > :40:54.It could be quite profound but it could also be a very challenging
:40:54. > :40:59.role for the people elected because policing is a very complex job.
:40:59. > :41:06.They will have to reconcile some fairly difficult priorities at the
:41:06. > :41:11.current time. How are where are the general public about this change?
:41:11. > :41:16.For what I have seen, there is fairly limited awareness of what is
:41:16. > :41:20.going on and what he will be asked to do it. You have to think now
:41:20. > :41:23.about how are you going to motivate people and encourage them to turn
:41:23. > :41:27.out and vote in November for something they have not done before
:41:27. > :41:35.and there is not a high level of understanding about what is going
:41:35. > :41:39.to happen. The recent survey suggested that
:41:39. > :41:44.57% of those questioned knew nothing about these elections.
:41:44. > :41:49.Hardly surprising? It does not surprise me and released and in
:41:49. > :41:55.addition to not knowing what is going to happen, I would argue from
:41:55. > :42:00.the feedback I have heard, they do not know what is going to happen
:42:00. > :42:07.and have even less interest. What concerns people is that when they
:42:07. > :42:11.need a police officer, however high or low level that crime as, that
:42:11. > :42:15.there is a police officer there to respond to their need at that
:42:15. > :42:19.particular time. People don't know what is happening and Labour don't
:42:19. > :42:24.know what to make of it. The where initially against it but now there
:42:24. > :42:30.is a whole host of prominent names, such as John Prescott, pitting
:42:30. > :42:35.themselves forward. What is the Labour position now, four against?
:42:35. > :42:38.We were against the creation of police commissioners. We thought
:42:38. > :42:44.that they were a distraction that it money away from frontline
:42:44. > :42:47.policing but the law is now the law. The Conservatives and Liberal
:42:47. > :42:51.Democrats have made it clear they are going ahead so the Labour Party
:42:51. > :42:57.will fight these elections any thoroughgoing way. We will put
:42:57. > :43:03.forward serious candidates for a serious job. Tough on crime, tough
:43:03. > :43:07.on the causes of crime was the election slogan for Tony Blair. The
:43:07. > :43:10.big it is interesting that they are police and crime commissioners.
:43:10. > :43:16.They have both the instruments for tackling crime or when it happens
:43:16. > :43:20.at also have a role in preventing crime and the future, tough on the
:43:20. > :43:27.causes of crime. We need people to understand these issues and to are
:43:27. > :43:30.able to take a strategic grip on them. They will have an interest in
:43:30. > :43:35.all the things that local authorities do to help ensure crime
:43:35. > :43:38.does not happen in the first place. The UK government say they have
:43:38. > :43:47.scrapped central targets and have released more police officers to go
:43:47. > :43:52.on the beat. Visit the commonsense moved to have people on the local
:43:52. > :43:57.level who are in charge of putting police chief constables under the
:43:57. > :44:04.microscope and told them to account? The issue is what he or
:44:04. > :44:10.she is actually a responsible for. There is a possibility of a tension
:44:10. > :44:15.between the police commissioner and the punts -- chief constable. The
:44:15. > :44:20.commission will set the budget but how that money is spent is a matter
:44:20. > :44:25.for the operational spending and that is this what ability of the
:44:25. > :44:31.chief constable. We have not had a November election for a long time.
:44:32. > :44:36.What you think the turnout will be like? Absolutely abysmal. The last
:44:36. > :44:41.November election I remember was in 1974 and it was not a very happy
:44:41. > :44:51.occasion. Time for a look back at some of the political stories of
:44:51. > :44:52.
:44:52. > :44:55.the week. The Assembly's deputy presiding
:44:55. > :44:59.officer like a wreath to mark the 30th anniversary of the Falklands
:44:59. > :45:06.war. As clearing up began after the
:45:06. > :45:10.floods, Ieuan Wyn Jones arch the insurance companies to act with
:45:10. > :45:14.speed and efficiency. J fund was set up to help people without
:45:14. > :45:18.insurance. The Welsh government accused
:45:18. > :45:26.Pembrokeshire council of failing in its duty to safeguard children. It
:45:26. > :45:29.has emerged knew it evidence has been passed to police.
:45:29. > :45:35.Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has accused Welsh Labour of playing
:45:35. > :45:39.a plane game or the country's wars. In a visit to Cardiff, it said the
:45:39. > :45:49.Welsh government should accept more responsibility.
:45:49. > :45:53.
:45:53. > :46:00.An Assembly inquiry into football. Let's get Wales to Brazil in 2014.
:46:00. > :46:07.I don't know if we have any midfield maestro has on the panel
:46:07. > :46:12.but let's look at the worrying situation in Pembrokeshire? Is this
:46:12. > :46:15.posturing of something more concerted than that? There is
:46:15. > :46:18.nothing about political posturing in this. The Minister has said in a
:46:18. > :46:23.team of people to try to help services and Pembrokeshire to
:46:23. > :46:27.recover from what had happened and to improve. He is acting on the
:46:27. > :46:32.information coming back from them which is saying the more they going
:46:32. > :46:36.to all of this, the more trouble the uncovering. It is a very
:46:36. > :46:41.serious response to a very serious situation. If it is not political
:46:41. > :46:47.posturing, what about Nick Clegg's visit to Cardiff telling Labour to
:46:47. > :46:52.take more responsibility for the money it spends? Can I pick up on
:46:52. > :46:59.that last dancer. The analogy of course is with what happened in
:46:59. > :47:02.Anglesey with governance issues they across the board for step the
:47:02. > :47:07.intervention Board where did not work and the Minister had to move
:47:07. > :47:11.to the next stage which was to take charge of the authority itself and
:47:12. > :47:17.appoint his own people there to run the place. That intervention is
:47:17. > :47:26.coming to an end and the shed will to end up in the later part of this
:47:26. > :47:36.year. -- scheduled to end. The same issues I think all arise here in
:47:36. > :47:45.Pembrokeshire. Nick Clegg's visit? One thing mentioned is the views of
:47:45. > :47:48.a number of the other parties and Wales. The march to a mature
:47:48. > :47:52.democracy means democratic institutions have to take
:47:52. > :47:56.responsibility for the services they provide but that raises the
:47:56. > :48:01.question of the resources and the first place. I have to ask you one
:48:01. > :48:05.question for step we know the draft bill for organ donation will be
:48:05. > :48:12.published in June. How do you think this will address those concerns
:48:12. > :48:16.some people have about family vetoes? I think it will be taken
:48:16. > :48:20.slowly. There is a white paper and then a draft bill before the final
:48:20. > :48:26.bill. The draft bill will what to continue some very important
:48:26. > :48:30.discussions with groups out here who have taken a close interest.
:48:30. > :48:33.Family views will be taken into account but it is a draft bill in
:48:33. > :48:37.order that people who feel strongly about this will know that their