0:01:19 > 0:01:29services. Are the wages of council chiefs out of control? Should decide
0:01:29 > 0:01:29
0:01:29 > 0:42:16Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2447 seconds
0:42:16 > 0:42:25bosses get paid? And some tourism operators are
0:42:25 > 0:42:35feeling gloomy. We have Plaid Cymru MP Elfyn Llywd
0:42:35 > 0:42:43and Julie Morgan from Labour. But first the murder of April Jones by
0:42:43 > 0:42:53Mark Bridger has called -- has led to calls for internet service
0:42:53 > 0:43:04
0:43:04 > 0:43:08providers to further restrict access to online Child pornography.
0:43:08 > 0:43:13Government and police have worked with the industry to take down
0:43:13 > 0:43:20explicit images very quickly. It is difficult for people to casually
0:43:20 > 0:43:30come across these images. However determined people are still able to
0:43:30 > 0:43:36
0:43:36 > 0:43:41get to it. We need other countries to do the same thing as the UK.
0:43:41 > 0:43:48easy is it going to be for agencies to get these global internet
0:43:48 > 0:43:55companies on board? Some of the big companies need to wake up. They need
0:43:55 > 0:44:05to engage Buckley. They can be part of the solution. -- to engage
0:44:05 > 0:44:17
0:44:17 > 0:44:22quickly. It is better if they have the example we have shown in the
0:44:22 > 0:44:32UK. An industry that respects what the public wants and what the
0:44:32 > 0:44:39
0:44:39 > 0:44:48protection of children requires. Our internet providers going to come
0:44:48 > 0:44:58on board? I hope they will. It is not acceptable that these images of
0:44:58 > 0:45:03
0:45:03 > 0:45:13children can be accessed. They could be more proactive. Organisations had
0:45:13 > 0:45:20
0:45:20 > 0:45:30to be more proactive. They must make sure this stuff is not available.
0:45:30 > 0:45:31
0:45:31 > 0:45:38There is more that should be done. Google has a zero tolerance policy.
0:45:38 > 0:45:48It will be difficult to read the internet office. It is our world
0:45:48 > 0:45:49
0:45:49 > 0:45:59wide then. -- it is a worldwide thing. We need an international
0:45:59 > 0:46:02
0:46:02 > 0:46:12approach. I would like to see it completely and. Can you see a
0:46:12 > 0:46:22situation where that is possible? completely prohibited. We need to
0:46:22 > 0:46:23
0:46:23 > 0:46:33act Buckley. -- we need to act quickly. Government should be
0:46:33 > 0:46:33
0:46:33 > 0:46:37involved. If the internet providers do not
0:46:38 > 0:46:47come on board we could end up going down a road of legislation which
0:46:47 > 0:46:52might not tackle the problem as well as working collaboratively could.
0:46:52 > 0:46:56Legislation is not always the most effective way of doing things. The
0:46:57 > 0:47:05number of these sites is going up drastically. This year it is 40%
0:47:05 > 0:47:14higher than last year. I believe that Dougal and others will see that
0:47:14 > 0:47:17they must be more proactive. -- Google. The Welsh Government has
0:47:17 > 0:47:27been accused of failing to reel in big salaries for Government chief
0:47:27 > 0:47:27
0:47:27 > 0:47:37executives. Then arrive over value for money our
0:47:37 > 0:47:46reporter has been to Swansea market. Local councils are in a competitive
0:47:46 > 0:47:53market. That has led to damaging headlines. Our councils paying over
0:47:53 > 0:47:59the odds? The size of these salaries is
0:47:59 > 0:48:06causing some controversy. Some opposition members are calling on
0:48:06 > 0:48:15the Welsh Government to rein them in. They want an independent panel
0:48:15 > 0:48:24to decide how much officers are paid. The idea was rejected by the
0:48:24 > 0:48:34Welsh Government which says local council pay is a local matter.
0:48:34 > 0:48:35
0:48:35 > 0:48:45It is out of control. Senior management is earning more than the
0:48:45 > 0:48:49
0:48:49 > 0:48:52first Minister. It is out of control. This is a big issue. The
0:48:53 > 0:49:00Welsh Labour Government has a duty to make sure that fairness is the
0:49:00 > 0:49:10common thread that goes through the setting of senior officer he. It is
0:49:10 > 0:49:32
0:49:32 > 0:49:37not happening at the moment. -- indoor market. You get what you pay
0:49:37 > 0:49:47for. It is a similar story for local councils. They are operating in a
0:49:47 > 0:49:48
0:49:48 > 0:49:56market. Should they be decided locally? This former leader of
0:49:56 > 0:50:02Swansea council says things will have to change. He says there are
0:50:02 > 0:50:12already salary guidelines that should be followed. I have sympathy
0:50:12 > 0:50:23
0:50:23 > 0:50:29with councillors trying to do the right thing. It has reached a stage
0:50:29 > 0:50:39that anybody paying above the level but had to explain why they are
0:50:39 > 0:50:45
0:50:45 > 0:50:55sector local Government salaries are at the lower end of the league
0:50:55 > 0:50:57
0:50:57 > 0:51:05table. Every council has two had -- every council has two publish an
0:51:05 > 0:51:09annual statements. For those who want tougher action the site of
0:51:09 > 0:51:19higher salaries is leading a sour taste in the mouth.
0:51:19 > 0:51:22
0:51:22 > 0:51:25Our Chief Executive's paid to match? Yes. There is something drastically
0:51:25 > 0:51:30wrong. They do have a lot of responsibility but I question
0:51:30 > 0:51:34whether they have the same level of responsibility as the first Minister
0:51:34 > 0:51:44in Cardiff and the UK prime minister. It has spun out of can
0:51:44 > 0:51:52
0:51:52 > 0:51:55roll. They will get the right people at a lower level as well. In some
0:51:55 > 0:52:05instances 170,000, well above the Prime Minister's salary. That is out
0:52:05 > 0:52:31
0:52:31 > 0:52:38beset independently? There is a joint negotiating Oddie. -- a joint
0:52:38 > 0:52:43negotiating body. They would be giving the power to somebody
0:52:43 > 0:52:47independent. They would be passing legislation. Local councils are
0:52:47 > 0:52:56democratically elected. They have the right to settle their own
0:52:56 > 0:53:06affairs. I am not taking powers away from locally elect bodies. We need
0:53:06 > 0:53:16to reinforce them. What do you think of the claim that chief executives
0:53:16 > 0:53:19
0:53:19 > 0:53:25are paid to match? The councils have to respond. Employees have been on
0:53:25 > 0:53:35pay freezes. There is an issue. But that is what the councils and the
0:53:35 > 0:53:36
0:53:36 > 0:53:43joint committee have to respond to. Would legislation be able to clamp
0:53:43 > 0:53:51down on this list to Mac the chief executive decides his own increase.
0:53:51 > 0:53:56That is not acceptable. That is being addressed. I am not sure other
0:53:56 > 0:53:59legislation would have captured that. I think there should be
0:53:59 > 0:54:05intervention by the Welsh Government. The current system is
0:54:05 > 0:54:13not working. There should be some reflection of the austerities that
0:54:13 > 0:54:23everyone else is going through. That is not happening. We need our review
0:54:23 > 0:54:26
0:54:26 > 0:54:33body. Why don't we have a body to deal with the whole issue and
0:54:33 > 0:54:39thereby give better value for money for taxpayers? It is a ridiculous
0:54:39 > 0:54:46situation where a Chief Executive in one council is paid well above UK
0:54:46 > 0:54:54prime minister. That is ridiculous. We need a concerted effort to make
0:54:54 > 0:54:57the leaders of the councils accept their responsibilities. Tourism
0:54:57 > 0:55:00operators say rules designed to stop second home owners are avoiding
0:55:00 > 0:55:05paying council tax on their holiday homes are threatening hundreds of
0:55:05 > 0:55:10businesses. The orders of self catering properties face an increase
0:55:10 > 0:55:20in the rates that they pay if they feel to rent out their properties
0:55:20 > 0:55:22
0:55:22 > 0:55:26for several days - macro for 70 days in any financial years.
0:55:26 > 0:55:36Rainy summers and the Calder Spring for 50 years combined Liverpool and
0:55:36 > 0:55:45
0:55:45 > 0:55:53economic climate has had business. It has been a nightmare. One of my
0:55:53 > 0:56:03properties field by six days. I lost my business rates. That is costing
0:56:03 > 0:56:14
0:56:14 > 0:56:19Those who fail to attract guests to stay in their holiday homes for more
0:56:19 > 0:56:25than 70 days face hundreds or thousands of pounds of rate
0:56:25 > 0:56:30increases. That is because some operators will now have to pay
0:56:30 > 0:56:37council taxes instead of less expensive business rates. For some
0:56:37 > 0:56:47operators these extra costs have a dramatic effect will stop it could
0:56:47 > 0:56:48
0:56:48 > 0:56:55be the final straw stop -- final straw. When you are running a
0:56:55 > 0:57:04business with tight margins that could push it over the edge. There
0:57:04 > 0:57:11is always a job that needs doing at these cottages. This couple have
0:57:11 > 0:57:21nine cottages and flats available for rent. Business is down on
0:57:21 > 0:57:28
0:57:28 > 0:57:38previous years. They are business assets. That distinction should be
0:57:38 > 0:57:50
0:57:50 > 0:57:56made. The Welsh Government will provide a strategy next month.
0:57:56 > 0:58:05Business owners will look for words to the research being published.
0:58:05 > 0:58:11The tourism industry figures generated a sixth of the size of the
0:58:11 > 0:58:17Welsh economy. What do you make of what we heard from some of the
0:58:17 > 0:58:26people in that piece? I have every sympathy for people in that
0:58:26 > 0:58:32situation. The tourism industry is so important. There are real things
0:58:32 > 0:58:39affecting the industry is the economy and the weather. We cannot
0:58:39 > 0:58:49do anything about the weather. We are doing our best to improve the
0:58:49 > 0:58:50
0:58:51 > 0:58:58economy. This particular issue, the Welsh Government is looking at, we
0:58:58 > 0:59:05have made a big push for people to diversify. That is part of the
0:59:05 > 0:59:12strategy. It is important that we have this review. The weather and
0:59:12 > 0:59:22the economy are hitting businesses. Is enough being done for the tourist
0:59:22 > 0:59:33
0:59:33 > 0:59:43industry? Not enough is being done will stop -- being done. It is not
0:59:43 > 0:59:53
0:59:53 > 1:00:03acceptable. We have got everything in Wales. The whole point of the
1:00:03 > 1:00:04
1:00:04 > 1:00:09regulation was to prevent misuse we are by second home owners
1:00:09 > 1:00:12registering as a business and it was not a business at all will stop I
1:00:12 > 1:00:22welcome the fact that the Welsh Government is looking to review
1:00:22 > 1:00:24
1:00:24 > 1:00:30this. A lot of people in the industry have said that Judaism
1:00:30 > 1:00:40should have its own minister. -- tourism should have its own
1:00:40 > 1:00:47
1:00:48 > 1:00:55minister. It has got an advantage being in their business portfolio.
1:00:55 > 1:01:05And Minister for tourism is not necessarily an answer. We have got
1:01:05 > 1:01:08
1:01:08 > 1:01:16fantastic festivals in Wales. We have got to build on those sort of
1:01:16 > 1:01:26things. We are very successful. need to invest more in bringing it
1:01:26 > 1:01:31
1:01:31 > 1:01:40book ended. -- bringing the Berlin. -- bringing people in.
1:01:40 > 1:01:50Time for a look at the stories of the week.
1:01:50 > 1:01:51
1:01:52 > 1:01:59The Welsh Government said it would go ahead with plans for a 111 49. --
1:01:59 > 1:02:06111 telephone line. David Davies revealed that he met
1:02:06 > 1:02:12the same journalist posing as lobbyists. The Panorama programme
1:02:12 > 1:02:22says Patrick Mercer broke lobbying rules. David Davies says he left the
1:02:22 > 1:02:26
1:02:26 > 1:02:32meeting. The regalia used by Prince Charles
1:02:32 > 1:02:42in 1969 should be put on permanent display according to their heritage
1:02:42 > 1:02:51
1:02:51 > 1:02:59You will be returning to Parliament after the break this week. There
1:02:59 > 1:03:06will be another debate on lobbying. We need to grasp this metal. It is
1:03:06 > 1:03:12not acceptable. The National Assembly has a tighter system. Even
1:03:12 > 1:03:22local Government has a better system. It is high time we did
1:03:22 > 1:03:27
1:03:27 > 1:03:37something about it in Westminster will stop -- Westminster. It is
1:03:37 > 1:03:49
1:03:49 > 1:03:59unacceptable. It is time we cleaned out of the stable. Was discussed.
1:03:59 > 1:04:02
1:04:02 > 1:04:07That has not happened. We are being lobbied all the time. I have
1:04:07 > 1:04:17voluntarily bodies and charities coming in to lobby for changes will
1:04:17 > 1:04:19
1:04:19 > 1:04:26stop -- changes. The issue is about commercial bodies. There was a
1:04:26 > 1:04:30report about this years ago. This issue has got to be grasped. But we
1:04:31 > 1:04:40must remember that we are there for people to approach as. Have you ever
1:04:41 > 1:04:41