:01:33. > :01:36.And in the Midlands, the government promised to cut immigration. But
:01:36. > :01:46.it's still going up. In our "super- multicultural region", more and
:01:46. > :01:46.
:01:46. > :30:48.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1742 seconds
:30:48. > :30:54.more people living here, were born I'm Patrick Burns, last week we
:30:54. > :31:01.taught it to the Liberal Democrats, this time it is the turn of Margot
:31:01. > :31:08.James and Tom Harris. In Dudley, Labour just need nine against for
:31:08. > :31:17.an overall majority, given what has been going on, you wouldn't bet
:31:17. > :31:25.against it? Nine it gains is a mountain to climb. Why have been
:31:25. > :31:31.has gone so wrong for the Tories? There seems to have been many
:31:31. > :31:38.disasters. I think the Budget, in line with the fiscal challenge we
:31:38. > :31:42.have got, obviously it has to contain some difficult decisions.
:31:42. > :31:47.They have not played well, but I think they are necessary, I voted
:31:47. > :31:52.for them. I think they will carry on of the economic strategy in the
:31:52. > :32:01.right direction. Unemployment is falling, there is a lot of good
:32:01. > :32:08.signals in the Black Country economy. We are mid-term, I don't
:32:08. > :32:13.think it'll have an affect on the local elections. We will see. Tom,
:32:13. > :32:21.I was looking at some of your manifesto points, you said you are
:32:21. > :32:30.going to fight for public services, get green jobs and work for local
:32:30. > :32:36.communities. That is a very anodyne list. We want to work for the
:32:36. > :32:41.things being done. Local government only has a certain birth for doing
:32:41. > :32:46.things. I'll be talking to people in Dudley, funnily enough, and
:32:46. > :32:50.people are talking about these sorts of things. They want a job
:32:50. > :32:57.safety and the money in their pockets. Briefly, are they really
:32:57. > :33:04.talking about it? There is a sense that when a times are hard and
:33:04. > :33:10.environmental stance is not what people are thinking about? That is
:33:10. > :33:14.true. The Green Party is not a single issue party. Social justice
:33:14. > :33:22.is something that is equally important to us. That is something
:33:22. > :33:25.we are fighting for all over the place. OK. Coming up: stop and go,
:33:25. > :33:30.the coalition are promised to bring immigration down, but more people
:33:30. > :33:36.are born outside the UK get the green light to come to the Midlands.
:33:36. > :33:43.Our top story this week this summer record numbers at the Staffordshire
:33:43. > :33:51.digger maker JCB. They are making more money than ever. They launched
:33:51. > :33:58.a more than 60 new products this week.
:33:58. > :34:02.Record turnover and record earnings. JCB's coffers swelled by �355
:34:02. > :34:09.million last year. Whilst many of us are living in the economic
:34:09. > :34:16.doldrums, how do they do it? It is the breaker countries of Brazil,
:34:16. > :34:26.India, Russia and China that have enabled them to survive and thrive
:34:26. > :34:33.
:34:33. > :34:37.-- b break -- the break countries. South America is on the up. It
:34:37. > :34:44.means buyers are flying into Staffordshire been searched for
:34:44. > :34:52.diggers on the other side of the globe. Brazil is creating a large.
:34:52. > :34:58.We have a lot of new jobs to do. It is very important to have important
:34:58. > :35:03.factories like JCB to support us. With another 60 new products on
:35:03. > :35:08.show up at a trade fair in France last week, this is a local company
:35:08. > :35:17.making millions in a global market. Congratulations to everybody
:35:17. > :35:24.concerned there. This is a tricky issue for you Tom Harris. JCB is a
:35:24. > :35:28.heavy diesel vehicle, and they did wicked things like building roads,
:35:29. > :35:34.airports, and yet they are a major employer in your part of the world.
:35:34. > :35:39.It is a wonderful thing. They are part of an engineering excellence
:35:39. > :35:44.that England has been known for. We have perhaps lost pole position up
:35:44. > :35:50.to Germany on that. It is absolutely wonderful, Staffordshire
:35:50. > :35:54.is a great county. JCB is a fantastic business. They have
:35:54. > :35:58.researched and developed a, and constantly developed everything. I
:35:58. > :36:04.have no doubt they will be at the forefront of developing a green
:36:04. > :36:10.technology in their sector. Margot, you are a prominent member of the
:36:10. > :36:17.business Select Committee, I'm sure we welcome this. Most companies are
:36:17. > :36:21.nowhere near as good as JCB as building up those emerging markets.
:36:21. > :36:26.This is a warning to other companies. I would not put it quite
:36:26. > :36:32.like that. I think the West Midlands, at the end of the last
:36:32. > :36:37.year, they saw exports rising at, the West Midlands was outpacing all
:36:37. > :36:47.the other regions in the UK in this increase. I think it is fantastic
:36:47. > :36:48.
:36:48. > :36:51.news it at JCB, but they are not alone. -- fantastic news at JCB.
:36:51. > :36:57.One your colleagues said that more business measures were needed, and
:36:57. > :37:05.the UK was sliding down the list of exporters. More mergers are needed,
:37:05. > :37:09.I can support that. But I can assure Sir Anthony that more
:37:09. > :37:19.mergers are taking place. We have the enterprise zones, and allow for
:37:19. > :37:20.
:37:21. > :37:25.investment. -- more measures are taking place. Just to go back to
:37:25. > :37:29.JCB, one of the things that I have to raise, a big export market is in
:37:29. > :37:37.China, they do not have the cleanest environmental record on
:37:37. > :37:43.earth. Does that concern you? the end of the day, the business in
:37:43. > :37:50.Staffordshire is being strengthened by exporting, and opening a factory
:37:50. > :37:54.in Brazil. The world has got a long way to catch up. We all have a long
:37:54. > :38:00.way to go up to attaining proper sustained ability, at the end of
:38:00. > :38:07.the day, if growth in China can lead to security in jobs in
:38:07. > :38:09.Staffordshire then that's got to be a good thing. Final court, Margot.
:38:10. > :38:14.When you are tinkered wealth creators like JCB, we need a lot
:38:14. > :38:23.more like them, if you want to rebalance the economy in the way
:38:23. > :38:31.that job party says? Absolutely right. Not enough though? We had
:38:31. > :38:36.400 new companies starting in the Black Country. Almost 200 had some
:38:37. > :38:42.sort of support from the government in getting going. We are supporting
:38:42. > :38:49.apprenticeships, skills, and workplace schemes. There is a lot
:38:49. > :38:53.going on. Let's move on to our main talking point. The number of people
:38:53. > :38:57.born outside of the UK and living here is continuing to rise. The
:38:57. > :39:00.government has promised to cut the number of people coming in. They
:39:00. > :39:09.believe their policies are taking effect. Here the West Midlands, the
:39:10. > :39:13.numbers keep going up. We explain why. And immigration, it divides
:39:13. > :39:21.opinion and causes headaches or politicians.
:39:21. > :39:26.-- and aggression. Bademba arrived here two years ago,
:39:26. > :39:34.he is still waiting very decision from the Home Office. It is a
:39:34. > :39:38.horrible situation. You live in all your moods, your family -- you are
:39:38. > :39:45.leaving a family, or your friends, you're coming to a different world,
:39:45. > :39:55.when they have been those the Wharfe. -- where nobody knows who
:39:55. > :39:56.
:39:56. > :40:00.you are. The fact that that the main parties have not the will to
:40:00. > :40:03.discuss -- have not been willing to discuss immigration has helped the
:40:03. > :40:07.British National Party. We are the only party that people realise will
:40:07. > :40:13.do something about it. Last year the government set an ambitious
:40:13. > :40:23.target to cut the net migration by 2050. Figures show that been on the
:40:23. > :40:28.
:40:28. > :40:31.UK population has continued to go - - non-UK.
:40:31. > :40:37.Why is this happening? The government has very little control
:40:37. > :40:41.up on many aspects of immigration. Some Refugees have now settled, and
:40:41. > :40:46.a European Union workers are entitled to be head. Because of
:40:46. > :40:53.that the coalition is focusing its efforts on immigrants from outside
:40:53. > :41:00.of the European Union. That has angered universities. They are very
:41:00. > :41:04.important universities, or on a financial and intellectual -- on a
:41:04. > :41:12.financial and intellectual standpoint. Whilst the Government
:41:12. > :41:18.says it -- says its reforms are taking hold, Berwick are many
:41:18. > :41:21.legacy cases, like Bademba. There are many people who are still
:41:21. > :41:24.waiting, they claimed had been outstanding for years and years,
:41:24. > :41:31.they have heard nothing from the Home Office, and it appeared to
:41:31. > :41:38.have been excluded. They are stark. Having made the promise, the
:41:38. > :41:44.coalition now faces the challenge of pitting its own targets. --
:41:44. > :41:52.hitting. We are also joint by a specialist
:41:52. > :41:56.in migration, especially in rural areas. You are Polish, you have
:41:56. > :42:00.professional and personal experience to draw on. What is your
:42:00. > :42:08.experience? The experience of this country is a very positive one. It
:42:08. > :42:14.is a very welcoming place. In terms of my work, our focus is on
:42:14. > :42:18.economic migrants from inside the European Union. Especially in
:42:18. > :42:26.Worcestershire and Herefordshire, are the raw parts of the country.
:42:26. > :42:31.The impact of this migration is very positive. It is positive for
:42:31. > :42:36.agriculture and horticulture. Thinking about the wider question,
:42:36. > :42:43.politically, the government is getting tough with caps on
:42:43. > :42:46.immigration. How effective has this been in reality? It is not
:42:46. > :42:54.necessarily the area of my expertise, but in terms of the
:42:54. > :43:02.local economy, all this region, seasonal workers, coming to work on
:43:02. > :43:08.farms, and also does he take up low-skill jobs, they are positive
:43:08. > :43:12.and very dynamic factors in the economy. That they contribute to
:43:12. > :43:18.growth. Given that, what is the view of the business community. Do
:43:18. > :43:27.they welcome fluidity? I think so. Some of the migrants themselves are
:43:27. > :43:30.very end of an aerial -- are very business-minded. They take up
:43:30. > :43:39.grants, and try to start at things. They want to succeed in this
:43:39. > :43:45.country. Looking at the political picture, Margot. Your government
:43:45. > :43:48.has had to respond to public pressure to curb immigration. Yet
:43:48. > :43:55.fluidity and keeping the boundaries as wide as possible is what
:43:55. > :44:05.business wants? I am aware that business would prefer no cap. The
:44:05. > :44:07.
:44:07. > :44:14.point is that the government has received are a direction from the
:44:14. > :44:24.public who have voted. I don't think York's film had made clear
:44:24. > :44:28.
:44:28. > :44:35.that those figures were only up to June the 20 -- 20th June 11. Those
:44:35. > :44:40.figures are June last year, there is a lot that has gone on. We have
:44:40. > :44:45.got hold of the student at Visa system. That is a big area of abuse.
:44:45. > :44:51.We have tied up bad. universities want to the overseas
:44:51. > :45:01.students. That is over �10 billion worth of business. They are typical
:45:01. > :45:06.
:45:06. > :45:10.decisions. -- they are difficult decisions. You can't expect the
:45:10. > :45:20.public to receive more people lie flat budget. Tom, what is your
:45:20. > :45:21.
:45:21. > :45:29.opinion on this? In the West Midlands, the figures for 2010 that
:45:29. > :45:33.I have seen showers for every 1,000 people in the West Midlands, two
:45:33. > :45:41.more people came from outside Britain, I can't really see that
:45:41. > :45:51.that in itself, personally, if he is an unmanageable figure. -- is an
:45:51. > :45:54.
:45:54. > :46:01.unmatchable figure. We have a great deal to over from people abroad. --
:46:01. > :46:07.we a great deal from people from other countries. I have many
:46:07. > :46:13.different ethnic backgrounds. you make of this process of
:46:13. > :46:18.integration? The parties have tried to make the debate more open and
:46:18. > :46:28.civilised? I think Britain is not the only country where emigration
:46:28. > :46:32.sparks political debate. -- immigration. There is a lot of
:46:32. > :46:39.evidence that economic migrants from Eastern Europe under use the
:46:39. > :46:47.service. We are going to need more people to help start the health
:46:47. > :46:55.service? That is a different issue. What I'm trying to say is that the
:46:55. > :47:05.migrants, the group of which comes with poorer outcomes when it comes
:47:05. > :47:07.
:47:07. > :47:12.to housing. They are not using the NHS well enough. These are areas of
:47:12. > :47:16.public policy which are under a great deal of pressure. That is
:47:16. > :47:20.what we have to limit immigration. We cannot increase the spend in
:47:21. > :47:26.these areas, so we mustn't increase the use of body and. Thank you very
:47:26. > :47:34.much. Thank you to Tom but coming in. Now to allow regular round-up
:47:34. > :47:37.in 60 seconds. We begin with a theme that we have
:47:37. > :47:42.been talking about in the past few weeks.
:47:42. > :47:45.So now we know. The Midlands is in drought. But there won't be any
:47:45. > :47:48.hosepipe bans this summer. The region's first new Enterprise Zone
:47:48. > :47:55.was established this week. It's hoped relaxed planning laws will
:47:56. > :47:59.create thousands of jobs around Darlaston in the Black Country.
:47:59. > :48:03.People who are investing in high technology will come here to take
:48:03. > :48:06.advantage of the workforce and the opportunities that that presents.
:48:06. > :48:09.Unemployment in the West Midlands is down. Again. The number of
:48:09. > :48:16.people out of work's fallen by three thousand to 239,000, a rate
:48:16. > :48:18.of 9%. Last week saw a hundred days until the start of the Olympics.
:48:19. > :48:23.Trials for the women's archery team have been taking place in
:48:23. > :48:31.Shropshire. And elected mayors of Birmingham and Coventry should be
:48:31. > :48:33.given powers beyond their council boundaries. That's according to
:48:33. > :48:37.research by the University of Warwick. Voters in the two cities
:48:37. > :48:47.will be asked whether or not they want a mayor in just under a
:48:47. > :48:51.fortnight. There will be a debate on the
:48:51. > :48:55.objective may end commentary on BBC Warwickshire from 6:30pm tomorrow
:48:55. > :48:58.evening. Margot, you were born in Coventry,
:48:58. > :49:05.isn't there a possibility that if Birmingham wants to vote Yes and
:49:05. > :49:13.commentary not, that Coventry would be overshadowed by its bigger
:49:13. > :49:19.brother? That is a possibility. Coventry had their records -- has
:49:19. > :49:29.had a record a standing on its own two feet. The you support a boat
:49:29. > :49:32.
:49:32. > :49:42.Rene in Coventry? Yes. Would you throw your hat in a -- in the be
:49:42. > :49:42.
:49:42. > :49:47.ring? The Green Party is against the idea of these elected mayors.
:49:47. > :49:52.Because? We think this is concentrating more power in fewer
:49:52. > :49:59.hands. Actually, democracy, the idea of it is to spread that power
:50:00. > :50:03.art. In 2000 we went for the situation of having councils, then
:50:03. > :50:08.going to the Cabinet system, it is moving too much in that direction.
:50:08. > :50:13.We will follow that debate in the coming days. This is where we have