:01:29. > :01:39.One nation still in it together. We go in search of the new centre go
:01:39. > :01:39.
:01:39. > :37:54.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2174 seconds
:37:54. > :37:57.round. Diversifying everything from Hello. It was a case of keep your
:37:57. > :38:02.friends close and your enemies even closer for one of our guests this
:38:02. > :38:09.week, Birmingham's council leader. He hosted the Conservative Party
:38:09. > :38:12.conference. Carol Lumley has been a Conservative MP in or stiffs as the
:38:12. > :38:16.last general letter. Grant Shapps said it Birmingham had been a
:38:16. > :38:21.fantastic host city. What a pity that Labour is now the only one of
:38:21. > :38:26.the big four parties not to have main -- held its conference in your
:38:26. > :38:30.home city. I nitrous -- regret that as well but I was pleased we were
:38:30. > :38:36.able to offer the facilities. thought you might influence with Ed
:38:36. > :38:40.Miliband. That's another discussion for another time. Are you party
:38:40. > :38:43.less likely to come to Birmingham now that Albert and his Labour
:38:43. > :38:49.party colleagues are in charge? hope not. Birmingham was a
:38:50. > :38:55.fantastic venue. The atmosphere was great. I think it's good. And
:38:55. > :39:01.please that our party go to Birmingham and it would be good to
:39:01. > :39:06.go back again. We are going to unapologetically reflect back on
:39:06. > :39:10.what has been an epic political event for Birmingham. The city
:39:10. > :39:14.formally welcomed the Conservatives with a reception in the very
:39:14. > :39:19.imposing round room in the art gallery which inspired Eric Pickles
:39:19. > :39:22.to regale everyone with his own expert knowledge of the Pre-
:39:22. > :39:25.Raphaelite and arts and crafts collections there. The leaders of
:39:25. > :39:31.the two main parties were more concerned with the here-and-now.
:39:31. > :39:37.hope you will learn about the city and take Ford memories of a city
:39:37. > :39:41.shaped not just by its industrial past but by the vision of looking
:39:41. > :39:46.forward to a future as a centre for higher value and innovative
:39:46. > :39:49.industry. With the right support, with the right political
:39:49. > :39:55.acknowledgement and the freedoms that are coming through the
:39:55. > :40:05.coalition government, we can prove what a progressive partnership can
:40:05. > :40:05.
:40:05. > :40:09.do. The serious point that cities can be the engine of economic
:40:09. > :40:14.regeneration, is that a point that you in Worcestershire were taken on
:40:14. > :40:21.board? But Birmingham can be the engine for growth and the warmth
:40:21. > :40:24.radiates out? I think so. We are now part of the Birmingham and
:40:24. > :40:28.Solihull Local Enterprise Partnership because we see our
:40:28. > :40:32.future and our economy moving that way. Brian in favour of high speed
:40:32. > :40:38.to, and in favour of Birmingham Airport increasing because I think
:40:38. > :40:45.those will bring jobs to Worcestershire. Birmingham does
:40:45. > :40:55.have a unique attributes like that, with a -- which go with the
:40:55. > :40:57.
:40:57. > :41:02.regional city. The idea of economic... If we take Redditch,
:41:02. > :41:08.over 40 % of the employable population of Redditch actually
:41:08. > :41:13.commutes into Bingham for stop he could to the north, -- commutes
:41:13. > :41:17.into Birmingham. If you go north, very 50 % commuting to Tamworth.
:41:17. > :41:21.Coming up, how Telford and Shropshire is updating the co-
:41:21. > :41:28.operative movement. No longer just about shopping and banking, schools
:41:28. > :41:32.have signed up and apprentices are landing jobs but are our
:41:32. > :41:36.politicians all in this together? Next up, the health service and how
:41:36. > :41:42.we pay for it. David Cameron promised us in Birmingham that it
:41:42. > :41:45.would still be ring-fenced but factor in the mounting costs of
:41:45. > :41:50.treating an ageing population and you can see why hospital managers
:41:50. > :41:54.are feeling the squeeze. With local trusts struggling to manage their
:41:54. > :42:03.books, we ask which of our local hospital services are most in
:42:03. > :42:11.danger of becoming an affordable. A packed meeting this week blamed
:42:11. > :42:16.the this hospitals bills on bad management. It has been bad
:42:17. > :42:20.management over the years. hospital is only 40 % use and his
:42:20. > :42:24.�8 million in the red also put us a history of losing tenants. Other
:42:24. > :42:32.bosses also say changes to the work he is to have it mean patients are
:42:33. > :42:36.not staying in hospital as long will still have --. If David
:42:36. > :42:42.Cameron tries to close McCulloch hospital, I will be the last person
:42:42. > :42:47.chained to the gate. We need to use with other public sector providers,
:42:48. > :42:54.the local council, the police. the local Labour Party, it referred
:42:54. > :43:00.and she is a dish served cold -- but revenge is a dish best served
:43:00. > :43:05.cold. We are currently down towards. It is getting less and less and I
:43:05. > :43:08.really am worried about the future of the hospital. The threat to
:43:08. > :43:13.services is happening elsewhere. The two and has an have signed a
:43:13. > :43:20.petition to save the Alexandrov hospitals accident and emergency
:43:20. > :43:24.and paternity services. What the Government really wants of super
:43:24. > :43:29.hospitals like this one in Birmingham during most of the work.
:43:29. > :43:32.Small hospitals would ask -- act as satellite or simply fade away. This
:43:32. > :43:35.would create economies of scale and mean more money could be spent on
:43:35. > :43:40.keeping people out of hospital. This, they argue, is better for
:43:40. > :43:50.patients and more football. But for some conditions, such that
:43:50. > :43:54.proximity to a hospital does count. Let's hold that thought of that and
:43:54. > :43:59.he changed the gates. You have a similarly for long position on her
:43:59. > :44:02.own account so far as accident and emergency is concerned. Yesterday,
:44:02. > :44:05.it just announced that they would Kibble three sites open
:44:05. > :44:09.Worcestershire and it's a question of what kind of services arrogant
:44:09. > :44:14.pride at those sites. I am nervous about that and will carry on
:44:14. > :44:18.fighting for people of Redditch for an A and D and a maternity unit,
:44:18. > :44:22.which is what is needed. Palace there on Friday in an eternity for
:44:22. > :44:30.two hours cornicing to nurses and see what a fantastic job we do.
:44:30. > :44:35.Isn't this an example of politicians being unhelpful for? He
:44:35. > :44:37.cannot get an overall strategic solution is to oblige you in
:44:37. > :44:44.Redditch and aid and Burghley in Cannock, everybody is fighting for
:44:44. > :44:50.their own bit of turf. That is for the trust to decide, not for me to
:44:50. > :44:53.decide. It is their decision and their decision alone. The
:44:53. > :44:57.Conservative Party were the only party at the last general election
:44:57. > :45:06.to promise more money for the NHS and have delivered on that cost.
:45:06. > :45:13.There has been more money put into the NHS but people are living
:45:13. > :45:18.longer and people have to make choices. A D you see the general
:45:18. > :45:26.logic as inevitable that surrounding areas do tend to have
:45:26. > :45:31.to look towards centres of excellence? -- do you see? The NHS
:45:31. > :45:36.is not cocooned here. It is going to have to make savings and we all
:45:36. > :45:41.know that. There is a balance between the cost that she needs to
:45:41. > :45:44.put in to deliver a proper service and that can cut care that you
:45:44. > :45:49.afford to patients. I think in the end, that is the balance you have
:45:49. > :45:55.to strike. It may be unfortunate for some areas but that will lead,
:45:55. > :45:58.I think, to some services being moved to larger hospital said that
:45:58. > :46:07.you can actually provide the appropriate level of concoct care
:46:07. > :46:11.to patients. I'm sure... There appear -- there are basic things
:46:11. > :46:15.like heart patients who need to know that they did have to travel
:46:15. > :46:20.too far. It will but the critical functions to provide. Figure to a
:46:20. > :46:22.larger hospital, you're more likely to find that birds, the people who
:46:22. > :46:27.wore at the forefront at their profession and therefore are able
:46:27. > :46:32.to deal with those perhaps unique situations that sometimes arise
:46:32. > :46:38.with the most serious cases. follows from that that getting into
:46:38. > :46:42.the... The buzz word now is urgent care centres which is caricatured
:46:42. > :46:47.as accident and emergency light, a smaller scale version. Do you think
:46:47. > :46:52.that could be the way forward for smaller centres? China we've been
:46:52. > :46:56.to look at one in Canterbury. They were impressed with it. It's about
:46:56. > :47:01.telling people what they are going to get in a local hospital and for
:47:01. > :47:05.example, in Redditch, they want to be able to go the 24 hours a day
:47:05. > :47:12.and I want them to be able to go the 24 hours and receive good care.
:47:12. > :47:20.They have already been transferred to Worcester weather Centre of
:47:20. > :47:23.excellence is. They need the best treatment. If it means they go to
:47:23. > :47:33.Worcester, I'm in favour of that for a service. What are not in
:47:33. > :47:36.
:47:36. > :47:42.favour of his having a hospital. David Cameron made a great deal of
:47:42. > :47:47.play the facts of the NHS was safe in his hands at the last general
:47:47. > :47:51.election and here you are, embroiled in a battle over health
:47:51. > :47:55.by Labour are outscoring EU in terms of trust. The array situation
:47:55. > :47:58.where people are living longer, have got to make more difficult
:47:58. > :48:01.choices but actually, we were the only party that went into the
:48:01. > :48:05.general election promising more money for health and we have
:48:05. > :48:07.delivered on that. That is one thing I'm very proud of. With got
:48:07. > :48:13.the trust and Worcestershire are going back to the government for a
:48:13. > :48:19.loan because of overspending for 2002 to his 2006. That is not under
:48:19. > :48:23.our watch. A final quick word before you move on. The nature of
:48:23. > :48:30.their health service is changing. Resources are in short supply. But
:48:30. > :48:35.has been the case -- that has been the case for some time. We have to
:48:35. > :48:38.ensure that the level of medical care we provide in a hospital or
:48:38. > :48:45.through their GPs is most appropriate to the area in which
:48:45. > :48:49.the services provided. With pressure mounting us never
:48:49. > :48:52.before on local authorities to find new as imaginative ways of cutting
:48:52. > :48:56.their costs, they are having to devise ever more creative ways of
:48:56. > :49:01.delivering their services. Since July last year, 21 councils have
:49:02. > :49:06.become corporate lives. Among them, tell food and Wrekin and Stoke-on-
:49:06. > :49:11.Trent. -- Telford. The co-operative movement says it is an idea whose
:49:11. > :49:17.time has come back. BBC Shropshire's political reporter to
:49:17. > :49:22.investigating what it will mean in practice.
:49:22. > :49:26.Her most people have used a Co-op to buy a pint of milk, pay a cheque
:49:26. > :49:31.or book a holiday but behind the well-known brand is an idea that is
:49:31. > :49:35.now being adopted across all aspects of society. This artwork
:49:35. > :49:40.tells the story of the co-operative Revolution, from its humble
:49:40. > :49:44.beginnings in Rochdale. Its principles were spread through the
:49:44. > :49:50.writings of George Hollioake. Now, in Telford, a more modern co-
:49:51. > :49:55.operative revolution is quietly under way. Telford and Wrekin
:49:55. > :49:58.Council became a corporate of after the Labour group took control last
:49:58. > :50:03.year was to put points to the success of his apprentices as a
:50:03. > :50:07.prize away a Co-op can work. apprenticeships have come about
:50:07. > :50:11.because of a partnership between the parish councils and the borough
:50:11. > :50:16.councils. There are new apprenticeships, new jobs for young
:50:16. > :50:20.people. Had that differ from a the way area the council might operate?
:50:20. > :50:24.We are involving residents and we are doing something that doesn't
:50:24. > :50:27.have happened if it went a corpus of council but has what would have
:50:27. > :50:30.happened before is the government cuts would have taken effect and a
:50:30. > :50:34.service could have been lost. of course there are those who view
:50:34. > :50:37.the council's approach with an eye of scepticism. This is what the
:50:37. > :50:41.council is here to do. We are here to represent local people, work
:50:41. > :50:46.with local people for the local borough. It was never any different
:50:46. > :50:49.from that. That is carrying on as normal. There is so tangible or
:50:49. > :50:53.part of difference to a corporate accounts of many other. It is not
:50:53. > :50:56.just local authorities where the movement is spreading. As to have a
:50:56. > :51:03.school is part of the school's corporate of society, set up four
:51:03. > :51:07.years ago as to Britain now has 340 members. It doesn't stop there.
:51:07. > :51:12.Telford United is owned by a supporters' trust and Telford
:51:12. > :51:16.Tigers has just adopted the same co-operative ownership. Then there
:51:16. > :51:22.is the political arm, the co- operative Party, which works with
:51:22. > :51:27.Labour than pursue its membership grow over three years.
:51:27. > :51:36.Conservatives are now talking corpse as well. Crops have virtues
:51:36. > :51:39.of local involvement and thrift and spreading well being and wealth and
:51:39. > :51:44.those things are actually completely compatible with
:51:44. > :51:49.capitalism. Certainly with a properly understood conservatism.
:51:49. > :51:53.So if parties have all colours have found an idea they can agree on, is
:51:53. > :51:56.working together the new centre ground in politics?
:51:56. > :52:06.The centre ground is rapidly becoming the Holy Grail of British
:52:06. > :52:08.politics. We are also joined today by a representative on the
:52:08. > :52:11.corporate of party's National Executive Committee for stop is the
:52:11. > :52:15.chief executive of the Black Country reinvestment society,
:52:15. > :52:20.aiming to help small businesses get access to finance arm stood us the
:52:20. > :52:24.Labour and co-operative Party candidate for Wrekin at the last
:52:24. > :52:27.election. What to make a dressing Normans intervention question what
:52:28. > :52:31.he says having founded the Conservative co-operative movement,
:52:31. > :52:37.there is no contradiction between that and conservatism and captain
:52:37. > :52:41.has a question mark the copra such a trusted brand. The differences
:52:41. > :52:45.about values. The core values of the co-operative movement about
:52:45. > :52:53.equity, solidarity, I'm not sure that fits with every single
:52:53. > :52:59.political party. Some people... there is a Trojan horse going off.
:52:59. > :53:04.Is it incompatible with Conservatism? It fits with
:53:04. > :53:11.compassionate conservatism but when he has taught what capitalism, the
:53:11. > :53:15.co-operative movement is concerned with one-member, one-vote. That is
:53:15. > :53:19.not compatible with judicial capitalism. How does this work in
:53:19. > :53:23.practice? A former Conservative leader in Telford said there is no
:53:23. > :53:26.tangible difference, it's just that in a Monde something that happens
:53:26. > :53:29.anyway. There is a tangible difference. I've been working with
:53:29. > :53:33.a commission in Telford, hard- hitting stuff meeting recently.
:53:33. > :53:40.There is a tangible difference in the way the council works with a
:53:40. > :53:44.committee. Less of a Silo mentality, more competition, or sharing. Also
:53:44. > :53:49.in terms of community regeneration, the committee believes that this
:53:49. > :53:53.council is working with them, not doing things to them. There is the
:53:53. > :53:57.co-operative fiscal arm as we were hearing in the report. We keep
:53:57. > :54:03.reading, according to the polls, that politics are becoming much
:54:03. > :54:06.more fluid had UK pricing and the Lib Dems sinking back. Is there a
:54:06. > :54:09.kind of fundamental change being witnessed as part of a process
:54:09. > :54:19.you're talking about Chris Rock I don't think you Kip are coming into
:54:19. > :54:20.
:54:20. > :54:23.the centre stage. I think where it is developing is that corporation
:54:23. > :54:26.run a natural with the most people. The fact that is typical party
:54:26. > :54:34.which has at admitting corporate of values and there are economic to
:54:34. > :54:39.fault -- models developing. 35 billion pound contribution to the
:54:39. > :54:43.economy in the UK. 1 billion co- operative members worldwide. Is it
:54:43. > :54:48.time that is coming around full steam. A very persuasive message.
:54:48. > :54:58.Is it time for Birmingham City Council to become a corporate of?
:54:58. > :55:00.
:55:00. > :55:05.We'll always -- already exploring the co-operative model. Our schools
:55:05. > :55:09.may be needed to work as a family of schools. We are exploring the
:55:09. > :55:13.co-operative model to keep a family of schools to go. When I read Jacey
:55:13. > :55:17.Normand book, the big society, he thought that occurred to me was
:55:17. > :55:25.that there was an echo of the original co-operative movement or,
:55:25. > :55:33.being fanciful? I think politics has moved and has changed. Jessie
:55:33. > :55:36.is adopting the principles that... Operatives exist all over the place.
:55:36. > :55:41.In a village near where I live there is a co-operative movement
:55:41. > :55:47.that runs a shop. We have corporate of homes in Redditch that build
:55:47. > :55:52.houses. It is not delivered what he should. It's an actual issue for
:55:52. > :56:01.all of us in the country. The whole history of this is with the Labour
:56:01. > :56:09.movement, isn't it? Yes. DCA bridge being built? We are the political
:56:09. > :56:12.arm of a quarter of movement. Things are changing. It is how we
:56:13. > :56:17.put into practice. Be seen things like funds for quarter of pubs and
:56:17. > :56:20.shops, they'd been cut by the government. We had Northern Rock,
:56:20. > :56:25.this acid demutualisation of the building societies converted into
:56:25. > :56:33.bank which led to the financial crisis. There it re to neutralise
:56:33. > :56:37.it? No, it has sold to Virgin Money. It is any the Conservative Party
:56:37. > :56:43.that met their numbers have won the member, one vote to vote for the
:56:43. > :56:47.lead. Yeah, that's fine. British Waterways could have been converted
:56:47. > :56:51.into will corporate of, Foundation Trust hospitals could have been a
:56:51. > :56:56.co-operative, the BBC, we would like to make that into a corpus of.
:56:56. > :57:01.Then there would be more greater accountability. They want the trust
:57:01. > :57:04.that comes with the corpse of brand. But when you think about the
:57:04. > :57:10.financial crisis and so on, the co- operative movement was one of those
:57:10. > :57:14.areas which emerged with their reputation enhanced. Absolutely.
:57:14. > :57:17.All his corrective. There is a set of values associated with the co-
:57:17. > :57:21.operative movement and I think there is a notion that people
:57:21. > :57:31.returning to. This respect and understand his follies and want to
:57:31. > :57:33.
:57:33. > :57:43.be part of it. Now for our regular round-up of the
:57:43. > :57:45.
:57:45. > :57:53.Daring to Derry, a Shropshire farmer has announced is investing
:57:53. > :57:59.�3 million in a so-called Super heard of cows. �2.4 million being
:57:59. > :58:05.invested in Warwickshire. Under Donald it will create more than 400
:58:05. > :58:08.jobs. 200 and some of their jobs have already been created in air-
:58:08. > :58:11.raid Burton by the it's the new Football Association centre of
:58:11. > :58:21.excellence. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge came to give their seal
:58:21. > :58:27.of approval. I feel tempted to cry God, for Harry, and just enjoy it
:58:27. > :58:31.but I don't want to lower the tone by bringing my brother into it.
:58:31. > :58:35.Social workers are staying longer and salaries have been raised. In
:58:35. > :58:38.Birmingham, discussion was all about the arts and had to improve
:58:38. > :58:44.the ways to pay for them in a special debate about modern day
:58:44. > :58:52.philanthropy. The government is very keen to
:58:52. > :58:56.encourage philanthropic giving to the arts. There... They do in
:58:56. > :59:01.America but they have tax-breaks to rinse and visored, don't they?
:59:01. > :59:04.they do and I think that's a really good idea. I think it is important.
:59:04. > :59:09.Does the Chancellor think it's a good idea of a shock to you have to
:59:09. > :59:12.ask him. I do think it's a good idea and I think it's important for
:59:12. > :59:15.our younger than to get access to this kind of stuff has to buy think
:59:15. > :59:18.that will help a great deal. We are difficult times and the more that
:59:18. > :59:22.we can encourage private enterprise to come and help and make things
:59:22. > :59:26.more accessible, and all for that. A worry is that you think of the
:59:26. > :59:31.big headline people like the CBSO, the orchestra and the Birmingham
:59:31. > :59:34.Royal Ballet, they all tend to appeal to the big donors but it is
:59:34. > :59:38.the smaller, Coetzee based arts groups who might have more of a
:59:38. > :59:43.struggle. We have to get a balance between the large and small. The
:59:43. > :59:47.renaissance of Birmingham had at its very heart arts and culture.
:59:47. > :59:52.Without that, I don't think we would make the economic recovery
:59:52. > :00:00.that we've made. Interestingly, I set up a summit for arts and
:00:00. > :00:03.culture this coming week. I hope it will get the Arts Committee to sit
:00:03. > :00:08.down and think through where Birmingham needs to be in terms of
:00:08. > :00:12.future of the future -- the future of arts and culture. Is there a
:00:12. > :00:17.private future for the arts? Certainly. But that we have great
:00:17. > :00:24.stuff going on now, all across the region. Fund you very much indeed.
:00:24. > :00:28.That is where we have to leave in the Midlands today. My thanks to my
:00:28. > :00:32.guests. Next week, nominations close on Friday for the police and
:00:32. > :00:37.crime commissioner candidates in our five police force areas so we