:01:09. > :01:13.Donald Trump's travel ban on refugees and citizens of seven
:01:14. > :01:19.The hard realities of hard Brexit. protests at several US airports.
:01:20. > :01:22.Farmers fear it could see them out of business if subsidies are no
:01:23. > :01:26.All the ins and outs in half-an-hour.
:01:27. > :01:27.Should she have spoken out more strongly?
:01:28. > :01:30.We'll ask former Ukip leader and Trump confidant Nigel Farage
:01:31. > :01:32.what he makes of the travel ban and the Prime Minister's
:01:33. > :01:35.In London this week, the mayor, Sadiq Khan,
:01:36. > :01:38.has been coming under pressure to explain his fares freeze
:01:39. > :01:39.and why it doesn't apply to everybody.
:01:40. > :01:41.And with me, the best and brightest political
:01:42. > :01:43.panel in the business - Steve Richards, Julia
:01:44. > :01:45.They'll be tweeting throughout the programme.
:01:46. > :01:49.It was soon after Theresa May left the White House on Friday that
:01:50. > :01:51.Donald Trump signed the executive order banning citizens from seven
:01:52. > :01:57.President Trump's 90-day ban covers Iran, Iraq,
:01:58. > :02:01.Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen and Syria, from
:02:02. > :02:05.where refugees are banned from until further notice.
:02:06. > :02:07.Donald Trump's executive order also imposes a complete ban
:02:08. > :02:13.on all refugees coming to the US for the next 120 days.
:02:14. > :02:17.Mr Trump said that the ban would keep radical Islamic terrorists out
:02:18. > :02:25.But the ban has sparked protests across the US,
:02:26. > :02:28.as people affected and already in the air were detained
:02:29. > :02:31.US laws have begun legal action to challenge the ban, which many
:02:32. > :02:37.At a press conference in Ankara, Turkey, Theresa May was asked
:02:38. > :02:42.about the refugee ban three times before giving this response...
:02:43. > :02:44.Well, the United States is responsible for the United States'
:02:45. > :02:50.The United Kingdom is responsible for the United Kingdom's policy
:02:51. > :02:53.on refugees, and our policy on refugees is to have a number
:02:54. > :02:56.of voluntary schemes to bring Syrian refugees into the country.
:02:57. > :03:11.Downing Street later issued a statement saying:
:03:12. > :03:13.This morning, the Treasury Minister, David Gauke, was asked why
:03:14. > :03:16.Theresa May had refused to condemn the travel ban at yesterday's
:03:17. > :03:22.The Prime Minister is not a shoot-from-the-hip
:03:23. > :03:26.She wants to see the evidence, she wants
:03:27. > :03:31.to understand precisely what the implications are.
:03:32. > :03:33.She'd been in a series of very lengthy meetings with
:03:34. > :03:37.President Erdogan, and she's someone who wants to see the briefing and
:03:38. > :03:41.understand it, and then will respond to that.
:03:42. > :03:43.I think there are times where, you know, there's always
:03:44. > :03:46.pressure to respond within a news cycle and so on.
:03:47. > :03:49.The important thing is, we are saying we disagree with it
:03:50. > :03:53.We're joined now from North London by the Conservative
:03:54. > :04:05.Should the Government in general and Theresa May in particular be more
:04:06. > :04:13.vocal in their criticism of Donald Trump's travel bans? Well, as David
:04:14. > :04:17.just said, it is obviously right that Theresa has now said this is an
:04:18. > :04:21.appropriate and not something we agree with in our Government, but I
:04:22. > :04:28.wish she had said something at the time, not least because it affects
:04:29. > :04:32.our own citizens. One of our own MPs, Nadhim, for example, because it
:04:33. > :04:39.is also a global crisis. She had clearly built an excellent with
:04:40. > :04:42.Donald Trump -- she had built an excellent relationship with him, but
:04:43. > :04:47.she could have been firmer. Mrs May hasn't said any word of criticism
:04:48. > :04:52.about the travel bans. She refused to say anything three times in
:04:53. > :04:55.Ankara, and it is merely an anonymous Downing Street
:04:56. > :04:58.spokesperson that has issued the subsequent mild criticism. We have
:04:59. > :05:03.not heard from the Prime Minister at all on this matter in terms of
:05:04. > :05:07.criticism. No, but the spokesperson will be speaking with her blessing,
:05:08. > :05:11.so it is clearly something she has acknowledged. As I said before, I
:05:12. > :05:15.wish she had said something at the time. The global climate at the
:05:16. > :05:20.moment is delicate and we need our leaders to work together to address
:05:21. > :05:24.things like the refugee crisis. Potentially, this plays into the
:05:25. > :05:31.hands of Daesh. It is absolutely not the right message. What would you
:05:32. > :05:35.like the Prime Minister to say? As with any new relationship, it is
:05:36. > :05:38.about testing the boundaries. They had clearly got on well, so she
:05:39. > :05:41.should have felt braver to say something there and then. I would
:05:42. > :05:44.have preferred her to say, for example, I need to talk to Donald
:05:45. > :05:47.Trump about this. It is not something I support and I want to
:05:48. > :05:52.understand why because I believe there is a better way to deal with
:05:53. > :05:56.the terrorist threat. I would have liked her to suggest that she would
:05:57. > :06:00.engage with him to do that. The president has instituted a 90 day
:06:01. > :06:05.temporary ban on people coming from seven mainly Muslim majority
:06:06. > :06:11.population countries. The seven were on President Obama's list of the
:06:12. > :06:15.biggest terrorist threats to the United States. Mr Trump wants this
:06:16. > :06:21.temporary ban until he puts tougher vetting procedures in place. What is
:06:22. > :06:25.wrong with that? Because it appeared to me that it wasn't thought through
:06:26. > :06:28.and it was affecting ordinary citizens and some British citizens.
:06:29. > :06:33.It can't be right that a president in that position of power can
:06:34. > :06:38.arbitrarily come up with executive powers like that. It has already
:06:39. > :06:43.been challenged by his own courts. So it is not the considered approach
:06:44. > :06:47.I want to see in a global leader. Who do you believe will be hurt by
:06:48. > :07:00.this, given that there can be exceptions on a case-by-case basis?
:07:01. > :07:06.I think potentially, our global reputation is going to be hurt by
:07:07. > :07:10.this. I have been to the refugee camps in Europe myself. There are
:07:11. > :07:13.desperate people trying to free persecution who will be hurt by
:07:14. > :07:17.this. We are trying to heal the wounds in this country not only
:07:18. > :07:20.because of Brexit. This is a time of coming together, not about saying it
:07:21. > :07:25.is located discriminatory against race and religion in this way. Do
:07:26. > :07:31.you believe that Mr Trump's state visit should go ahead? Well, he is
:07:32. > :07:34.the leader of America, so it does need to go ahead and we need to work
:07:35. > :07:39.with him. I believe Theresa has started in a positive manner was
:07:40. > :07:41.that she just needs to continue in that vein. If he comes to our
:07:42. > :07:47.country, he needs to respect the way we feel about things. But yes, he is
:07:48. > :07:51.the president, so he does need to come to the UK. There is some debate
:07:52. > :07:56.within Westminster as to where it is appropriate for him to speak to MPs,
:07:57. > :08:00.but it is right that he comes. But if he does come on a state visit,
:08:01. > :08:03.should he be granted what this country has always thought of as a
:08:04. > :08:09.great honour, which is a joint address to both Houses of
:08:10. > :08:12.Parliament? I haven't been an MP long enough to understand the
:08:13. > :08:16.protocol of where is the right location for him to do that, but I
:08:17. > :08:22.believe in the past, it has been the greatest leaders, when they have
:08:23. > :08:26.achieved great things globally, it is Westminster Hall. But there are a
:08:27. > :08:29.number of MPs saying that is not the most appropriate place and I am
:08:30. > :08:32.inclined to agree. You don't think he should be accorded the privilege
:08:33. > :08:38.of speaking to a joint session of Parliament? I think there are places
:08:39. > :08:41.where he can do that, but Westminster Hall is not yet the
:08:42. > :08:51.right place. Thank you for joining us.
:08:52. > :08:58.Steve, within 24 hours, we have seen the difficulty of becoming Donald
:08:59. > :09:02.Trump's best friend. On the one hand, it could have huge advantages,
:09:03. > :09:06.particularly for a Brexit Britain. On the other hand, if you are going
:09:07. > :09:12.to be his best friend, you don't have to give a running commentary on
:09:13. > :09:17.every major thing he does. Yeah. We have learned a bit about Theresa
:09:18. > :09:22.May, that when she has to produce a set piece speech which she has time
:09:23. > :09:27.to prepare, she can get it totally right and sometimes more than right.
:09:28. > :09:36.When she is faced with a fast-moving story, she is leaden footed and
:09:37. > :09:40.can't think quickly on her feet. We know, did she regret not saying
:09:41. > :09:44.more? Evidently she did, because we got a statement from the Downing
:09:45. > :09:48.Street spokesperson saying more. So she can't think quickly. She's going
:09:49. > :09:50.to have to think very quickly in response to some of the things he's
:09:51. > :09:56.going to be doing, because she will be asked about it all the time. It
:09:57. > :10:01.does highlight the wider danger that the assumption that the special
:10:02. > :10:04.relationship is always a safe and fertile place to be has been proven
:10:05. > :10:10.wrong before and I think it will be proven wrong big-time in this case.
:10:11. > :10:14.You're shaking your head. I don't see why we are responsible for
:10:15. > :10:18.American domestic policy. I am as appalled as the next person by what
:10:19. > :10:24.Donald Trump has done. He said he was going to do this, which was why
:10:25. > :10:27.I did not want Americans to vote for him. In fact, what he has
:10:28. > :10:32.implemented is much less than what he said he would do when he was
:10:33. > :10:38.campaigning. I have always felt that the campaigning Trump was the real
:10:39. > :10:41.Trump. But what he has done is actually constitutional. He has the
:10:42. > :10:46.executive power to issue this order. It is within the rules in terms of a
:10:47. > :10:51.class of aliens deemed to be a risk to the United States. It is a 90 day
:10:52. > :10:57.limited ban. The last president who did this was a Democrat president,
:10:58. > :11:01.President Carter. He did it in the aftermath of the Iranian crisis.
:11:02. > :11:04.Well, given the spate of terror attacks on American territory in
:11:05. > :11:12.recent years, you could argue that he meant well. I don't agree with
:11:13. > :11:16.Donald Trump. But have people from these countries that he has banned
:11:17. > :11:21.been involved in terrorist attacks? That is the absurdity. He has not
:11:22. > :11:25.included Egypt or Pakistan. But I don't remove everyone getting in
:11:26. > :11:28.such a state about President Carter. The reality is that it is a legal
:11:29. > :11:38.thing for him to do. I don't like it. But it is not my territory. It
:11:39. > :11:43.is illegal, because they have been given a right to remain by a judge
:11:44. > :11:47.in Brooklyn and another judging Alexandra. That is a different issue
:11:48. > :11:53.for people who have already gone through the vetting. I don't agree
:11:54. > :11:57.with this. However, I don't think it's reasonable to say that Theresa
:11:58. > :12:03.May, because she wants to do a deal with Donald Trump, I don't give is
:12:04. > :12:08.reasonable to say she have to agree with each of his policies. It is
:12:09. > :12:13.nonsense. But the issue, Janan, is not whether she needs to agree with
:12:14. > :12:18.him. The question is that she will be questioned about him all the time
:12:19. > :12:22.now. And although these are matters of domestic policy, the refugee
:12:23. > :12:28.policy is international. They speak to issues that affect Britain as
:12:29. > :12:32.well, and I would suggest that she will not get away with this
:12:33. > :12:37.anonymous statement from Downing Street. People will demand a she
:12:38. > :12:40.says something on the record. She would get away with it indefinitely.
:12:41. > :12:45.These situations will recur every time Donald Trump says or does
:12:46. > :12:49.something contentious. She will be pressed to this associate her
:12:50. > :12:54.administration from his. She will probably be in a better logistical
:12:55. > :12:58.situation to do so. She has spent a big chunk of the past 72 hours in
:12:59. > :13:03.the air. She flew from Washington to Ankara, than from Ankara to London.
:13:04. > :13:05.We don't have Air Force One, we don't have those frictionless
:13:06. > :13:10.communications with the ground. She would have been incommunicado for
:13:11. > :13:14.large periods of time when this story was breaking. That doesn't
:13:15. > :13:18.excuse the stiff response when she landed and issued a statement via
:13:19. > :13:22.Downing Street. But during that delay, she did have a plausible
:13:23. > :13:26.excuse. She has also got a much more tricky geopolitical situation than
:13:27. > :13:31.many other world leaders. She has to strike a favourable trade deal with
:13:32. > :13:34.the new US president. It is all very well people saying Justin Trudeau of
:13:35. > :13:38.Canada was much more vociferous in his criticism of Donald Trump. He is
:13:39. > :13:44.already in Nafta, he is not striking a new deal. For how long, we don't
:13:45. > :13:46.know. Exactly, he's trying to stay in Nafta, but he is in a less tricky
:13:47. > :13:50.situation than she is. Now, Theresa May's was the first
:13:51. > :13:53.foreign leader to meet President Trump and the visit
:13:54. > :13:55.was seen as quite a coup for the Prime Minister,
:13:56. > :13:58.keen for a new trading relationship with the United States
:13:59. > :14:00.in the wake of Brexit. The Prime Minister congratulated
:14:01. > :14:02.the new US President for his "stunning election victory"
:14:03. > :14:04.but might not have intended to be pictured walking
:14:05. > :14:07.through the White House with him That picture of Donald Trump helping
:14:08. > :14:11.Theresa May down the steps through the White House colonnade
:14:12. > :14:14.will be the enduring image Mrs May said the President
:14:15. > :14:22.told her he was "100% behind Nato". And for her part, the Prime Minister
:14:23. > :14:25.said she would work hard to make sure other Nato countries
:14:26. > :14:29.increased their defence spending It's been announced
:14:30. > :14:35.that there will be a new trade negotiation agreement,
:14:36. > :14:36.with high-level talks The hope is that this will lead
:14:37. > :14:42.to a new trade deal between the two countries as soon as
:14:43. > :14:46.Britain leaves the EU. Mr Trump said he believed "Brexit's
:14:47. > :14:49.going to be a wonderful thing". On Russia, Theresa May made clear
:14:50. > :14:52.to Donald Trump her continued
:14:53. > :14:57.backing for sanctions. And following the controversy over
:14:58. > :15:00.the President's support for torture, Mr Trump said he would defer
:15:01. > :15:02.to his Secretary of Defense, General James Mattis, who argues
:15:03. > :15:06.that the practice doesn't work. And I'm joined now by the former
:15:07. > :15:22.Ukip leader, Nigel Farage. Do you agree with Mr Trump's
:15:23. > :15:26.decision to ban Syrian refugees indefinitely from entering the
:15:27. > :15:30.United States? I agree with the concept of democracy, a point which
:15:31. > :15:35.appears to be missed by almost all commentators including the BBC. He
:15:36. > :15:38.was elected to get tough and say he would do everything in his power to
:15:39. > :15:46.protect America from infiltration by ISIS terrorists. There are seven
:15:47. > :15:52.countries on that list. He's entitled to do this. I didn't ask if
:15:53. > :15:58.he was entitled, I asked if agree with it. I do, because if you just
:15:59. > :16:02.look at what's happening in France and Germany, if you look at Angela
:16:03. > :16:08.Merkel's policy which was to allow virtually anyone in from anywhere,
:16:09. > :16:11.look what it led to. You said in 2013 there's a responsibility on all
:16:12. > :16:17.of us in the free west to help some of those people fleeing Syria
:16:18. > :16:21.literally in fear of their lives. That's the Christian community in
:16:22. > :16:25.virtually all of those country, it is almost too late because many have
:16:26. > :16:30.been wiped out but if you are looking for a genuine definition of
:16:31. > :16:35.a refugee, going back to 1951, it is someone in direct fear of
:16:36. > :16:39.persecution of their life because of their race, religion or beliefs. But
:16:40. > :16:43.you didn't talk about only Christians, and in January 2014 you
:16:44. > :16:47.said, I seem to recall it was Ukip who started the debate on allowing
:16:48. > :16:54.Syrian refugees, you seem to be in favour of allowing proper refugees
:16:55. > :17:02.into this country. If they can be defined. Mr Trump won't let any in.
:17:03. > :17:06.He is running American policy, not British policy. Since I made those
:17:07. > :17:11.comments, we have had the Angela Merkel madness and I think Trump's
:17:12. > :17:16.policy in many ways has been shaped by what Angela Merkel did. He is
:17:17. > :17:19.fully entitled to do this, and as far as we are concerned in this
:17:20. > :17:28.country, I would like to see extreme vetting. Since 9/11 can you name any
:17:29. > :17:33.terrorist event in the United States that has involved refugees that have
:17:34. > :17:38.been allowed into the country? No, in fact the terrorist events have
:17:39. > :17:43.been US citizens radicalised. When you have a problem already, why
:17:44. > :17:46.would you wish to add to it? I would remind you that of the eight people
:17:47. > :17:50.that committed those atrocities in Paris, five of them had got into
:17:51. > :17:56.Europe posing as refugees so there is an issue here. But perhaps not
:17:57. > :17:59.for America because it has the most rigorous and lengthy screening
:18:00. > :18:04.process in the world, especially for Syrians. You have to register with
:18:05. > :18:09.the UN agency for refugees, which then recommend certain names to
:18:10. > :18:12.America, they then go through biometric screening, database
:18:13. > :18:23.screening, intelligent screenings, including four separate intelligence
:18:24. > :18:31.agencies screening you. How more rigorous would you want it to be? It
:18:32. > :18:35.is much more rigorous than we are or the rest of Europe. This is why we
:18:36. > :18:37.have elections, so voters can make choices and they voted for Donald
:18:38. > :18:44.Trump to become president and he said he would put bans in place and
:18:45. > :18:47.then move towards extreme vetting. As far as the Syrians are concerned
:18:48. > :18:54.he's made that decision but that's what he was voted in fourth. Since
:18:55. > :18:59.you know him, you have met him, you are confident of his, I'm testing
:19:00. > :19:03.you on the logic of it. Not that he's democratically elected, I'm not
:19:04. > :19:06.asking about that, I'm trying to get the case, particularly since if you
:19:07. > :19:13.take the seven countries of which the ban applies for 19 days, again,
:19:14. > :19:16.of these seven countries, its citizens have not been involved in
:19:17. > :19:20.terrorist attacks in the United States. It would be a mistake to say
:19:21. > :19:23.it is just Muslim countries because the biggest Muslim countries in the
:19:24. > :19:27.world have not been included in this. The point is they have made
:19:28. > :19:32.this assessment, they bought themselves 90 days to think about
:19:33. > :19:39.the policy. This is exactly what Trump's voters would have wanted him
:19:40. > :19:43.to do. You said the President's rhetoric on immigrants made even you
:19:44. > :19:47.feel very uncomfortable. Because he started by saying there was a total
:19:48. > :19:52.ban, then amended it to say there would be vetting. My guess is that
:19:53. > :19:56.what he will do is try to genuinely help Syrian people and he will be
:19:57. > :20:04.talking about the creation of some safe zones. Let's see. He hasn't. We
:20:05. > :20:09.will see. I suspect something like that is coming down the trap. What
:20:10. > :20:16.advice did you give to the president and his advisers ahead of Theresa
:20:17. > :20:19.May's visit? That I wanted us to talk about trade and to give the
:20:20. > :20:23.Prime Minister the impression that actually... When she has been
:20:24. > :20:29.surrounded by her whole career by civil servants and politicians who
:20:30. > :20:32.say that everything takes five years or seven years or ten years, to make
:20:33. > :20:36.it clear to the Prime Minister that if there is will, these things can
:20:37. > :20:40.be done quickly. Isn't there a danger of a British Prime Minister
:20:41. > :20:46.who has to deal with the president of the United States, to Ally
:20:47. > :20:51.herself so closely with such an unpredictable, controversial
:20:52. > :20:56.president, banning Muslims in certain ways and refugees, building
:20:57. > :21:00.a war with Mexico, threatening trade was with other countries, thinking
:21:01. > :21:05.of ending sanctions against Russia? I missing something here, what is
:21:06. > :21:10.controversial about defending the Mexican border? Bill Clinton spoke
:21:11. > :21:14.in tough terms, George Bush built six miles of fence, and because it
:21:15. > :21:18.is Donald Trump there is uproar. So you think there is no risk of the
:21:19. > :21:22.British by Minister being the best friend of this type of president? I
:21:23. > :21:26.think there is no risk in putting together a trade deal and no risk in
:21:27. > :21:30.her being the bridge between America and the rest of Nato to say to Nato
:21:31. > :21:36.members if you don't pay your 2% he is serious so on those things there
:21:37. > :21:41.is no risk at all. It was clear from her Lancaster house speech that the
:21:42. > :21:44.Brexiteers in the Government had won pretty much every argument in terms
:21:45. > :21:52.of negotiations to come out. What you want from her? She was very good
:21:53. > :21:56.as Home Secretary, Tory party conferences, the Tory press saying
:21:57. > :22:01.this was the new Thatcher and she failed. She even failed to control
:22:02. > :22:04.immigration from outside the European Union so yes, it was a good
:22:05. > :22:09.speech and for many on the Eurosceptic side of the argument, I
:22:10. > :22:12.could scarcely believe that a British Prime Minister was saying
:22:13. > :22:19.things which I had been roundly abused and vilified for. But I have
:22:20. > :22:22.a feeling we may be in for a very frustrating 2017. The mood as I can
:22:23. > :22:27.see it in Brussels is that negotiating with Britain is not a
:22:28. > :22:31.priority, they are far more worried about Dutch elections, French
:22:32. > :22:36.elections, German elections and possibly even Italian elections. I
:22:37. > :22:39.worry that by the end of this year we may not have made much progress
:22:40. > :22:46.and that's why the Trump visit suddenly things brings into focus.
:22:47. > :22:50.What if by the middle of June, for argument 's sake, the Americans say
:22:51. > :22:53.OK we reached this position with the British, compromised on the tough
:22:54. > :23:00.stuff, food standards and things like that, we are ready to sign a
:23:01. > :23:04.deal now, and Theresa May is to say actually Mr Juncker says I cannot
:23:05. > :23:09.sign this until we leave. What will they do? They cannot throw us out,
:23:10. > :23:13.we are living anyway. But everybody agrees you can talk about the deal,
:23:14. > :23:18.maybe even do the heads of agreement but you cannot sign a treaty until
:23:19. > :23:22.we have left the EU. Let me predict that at the end of this year we will
:23:23. > :23:26.find a European Union who frankly don't want to talk to us and
:23:27. > :23:30.countries around the world that want to get on and do things and that
:23:31. > :23:35.will be the big tension for Mrs May over the course of this year. If the
:23:36. > :23:39.Prime Minister is giving you everything you want on Brexit, you
:23:40. > :23:43.agree that she's trying to get from your point of view the right things.
:23:44. > :23:48.If she delivers on that and get Brexit on the terms of which you
:23:49. > :23:52.approve, what's the point of Ukip? You could argue that about any
:23:53. > :23:58.political party. If we have achieved the goal that we set out to achieve,
:23:59. > :24:01.there are right now out there 4 million people who are Ukip
:24:02. > :24:07.loyalists. They are delighted that by voting Ukip we got a referendum,
:24:08. > :24:11.they will be even happier if they seek us leave the European Union and
:24:12. > :24:15.I think there is still a gap in British politics for a party that
:24:16. > :24:18.says it as it sees it, is not afraid by political correctness and is seen
:24:19. > :24:23.to be on the side of the little people, and that's why, with the
:24:24. > :24:28.Labour Party is fundamentally split, and it really is totally split over
:24:29. > :24:33.this European question, I think Ukip is in good shape. That proposition
:24:34. > :24:38.will be put to test at the Stoke Central by-election, one of Ukip's
:24:39. > :24:42.best prospects in the country. Some people call it the capital of
:24:43. > :24:48.Brexit. Labour is in chaos over Article 50, is picked a candidate to
:24:49. > :24:57.fight Stoke Central who has described Brexit is a pile of notes.
:24:58. > :25:01.If your successor, Paul Nuttall, cannot win the Stoke by-election,
:25:02. > :25:05.there's not much hope for you, is there? I think he will. I've always
:25:06. > :25:12.been told don't make predictions but I think he will win. If you doesn't
:25:13. > :25:17.it will be tough, we will still have our 4 million loyalists, but if it
:25:18. > :25:21.does we can actually see Labour are beatable in their heartlands and
:25:22. > :25:23.Ukip will be off to the second big stage. Nigel Farage, thank you for
:25:24. > :25:25.being with us. It's just gone 11.25,
:25:26. > :25:27.you're watching the Sunday Politics. We say goodbye to viewers
:25:28. > :25:29.in Scotland, who leave us now Coming up here in 15 minutes, I'll
:25:30. > :25:40.be talking to our political panel. Welcome to the Sunday
:25:41. > :25:43.politics in the Midlands. This week, the hard realities
:25:44. > :25:47.of a hard Brexit for our farmers. Fears for the future
:25:48. > :25:50.of their businesses if the subsidies they depend on are no longer
:25:51. > :25:54.guaranteed by the European Union. Emma Reynolds is the Labour MP
:25:55. > :26:02.for Wolverhampton North East and a former Shadow Minister
:26:03. > :26:06.for Europe and Nigel Huddlestone is the Conservative MP
:26:07. > :26:09.for mid-Worcestershire, which of course includes
:26:10. > :26:11.the Vale of Evesham. That Brexit Bill, all 133 words
:26:12. > :26:22.of it, is on the fast track with a white paper that
:26:23. > :26:24.could presumably be cut and pasted from Theresa May's
:26:25. > :26:27.keynote speech last week. And all because the Supreme Court
:26:28. > :26:31.ruled by a majority of eight to three that Parliament must
:26:32. > :26:34.have its say before she can That was a defeat for
:26:35. > :26:39.the government's top law officer. The Attorney General had
:26:40. > :26:41.done his best to persuade the judges that Mrs made good
:26:42. > :26:49.use her executive powers instead. the judges that Mrs May could use
:26:50. > :26:52.her executive powers instead. Of course the government
:26:53. > :26:54.is disappointed with the outcome but we have the good fortune to live
:26:55. > :26:57.in a country where everyone, every individual, every
:26:58. > :26:59.organisation, even government, So the government will comply
:27:00. > :27:04.with the judgment of the court and do all that is necessary
:27:05. > :27:07.to implement it. Well, it will be interesting to see
:27:08. > :27:14.how many Labour MPs obey Jeremy Corbyn's three line whip
:27:15. > :27:16.in support of the government's Brexit timetable when it comes
:27:17. > :27:19.to that vote in the Commons and Emma, you have always been
:27:20. > :27:22.a very enthusiastic European and are you going to vote for that
:27:23. > :27:25.Brexit schedule? I did campaign for remaining
:27:26. > :27:30.in the EU but I accept the result of the referendum and I will be
:27:31. > :27:34.voting for the Article 50 legislation to trigger
:27:35. > :27:39.the negotiations for us Are you one of the Labour MPs
:27:40. > :27:44.then who Tim Farron, the Liberal Democrat leader,
:27:45. > :27:47.has in mind when he says that Labour Well, I don't think it's cowardly
:27:48. > :27:51.to respect the will of the people. I went into this referendum
:27:52. > :27:54.and in every debate I did I said I would accept the result,
:27:55. > :27:57.whichever way it went. Democratically, I don't
:27:58. > :28:00.think Tim Farren has It does have the makings, this,
:28:01. > :28:04.of another leadership crisis We have to stand by the result
:28:05. > :28:10.of the referendum and the priority now is that MPs have a meaningful
:28:11. > :28:13.say in securing the best possible deal for the UK
:28:14. > :28:18.in these negotiations. Nigel, what would you say
:28:19. > :28:22.to Pat McFadden, one of Emma's Wolverhampton colleagues
:28:23. > :28:25.who knows a thing or two about Europe, too, and he says that
:28:26. > :28:30.reminding Theresa May that no deal is a better bet than a bad deal
:28:31. > :28:34.and he said that no deal option, the World Trade Organisation
:28:35. > :28:39.version, would be 10% tariffs on cars, import restrictions,
:28:40. > :28:41.customs delays and all I think it underlines how important
:28:42. > :28:46.it is that we do get a good deal and therefore the whole energy
:28:47. > :28:49.of the government is making sure But she's raising the possibility
:28:50. > :28:54.of a no deal option, which would turn us into some kind
:28:55. > :28:57.of a tiger economy I think that's a negotiation stance
:28:58. > :29:01.that is not surprising. I think lots of people make those
:29:02. > :29:04.kind of position statement early on. No, it's not meaningless
:29:05. > :29:08.but it is important to make it clear that we do have alternative options
:29:09. > :29:11.but it would be an extraordinary act of self harm for the EU not to come
:29:12. > :29:15.to a decent deal with us because they have got jobs
:29:16. > :29:17.and businesses that depend on trade with the UK as well,
:29:18. > :29:20.so we are confident Sean Simon, Labour's candidate
:29:21. > :29:23.for the Metro Mayor, whose launch event you chaired ten
:29:24. > :29:27.days or so ago says that the Midlands as a region should
:29:28. > :29:30.have a seat at those Is that really realistic given that
:29:31. > :29:36.Scotland and all the rest of the nations, but the Midlands
:29:37. > :29:38.is only a region? Well, many of our regions
:29:39. > :29:41.have a greater population than Scotland or Wales
:29:42. > :29:44.or Northern Ireland, so I think it's absolutely right
:29:45. > :29:55.that we in this regions should be so I think it's absolutely right
:29:56. > :29:57.that English regions should be consulted and should
:29:58. > :29:59.have a seat at the table. Well, we are because we are all MPs
:30:00. > :30:04.and we are all involved in the discussion so I'm not sure
:30:05. > :30:07.whether we need this additional regional representation
:30:08. > :30:08.because we are MPs representing our OK for the moment, thank
:30:09. > :30:12.you both very much indeed. Well, that's what one local farmer
:30:13. > :30:16.told me just before the referendum. "Because they'll burn the place
:30:17. > :30:19.down if anyone messes So, what happens when we leave
:30:20. > :30:23.the European Union Common Well, one Shropshire farmer
:30:24. > :30:26.told our political reporter Joanne Gallagher that it
:30:27. > :30:31.could see him out of business. Newborn lambs, a sign of fresh
:30:32. > :30:34.starts and new beginnings but for this farmer,
:30:35. > :30:37.the future's a worry. Malcolm Roberts exports his produce
:30:38. > :30:41.to France, Italy, Spain and Germany. In fact, 40% of UK
:30:42. > :30:46.lamb goes to Europe. He voted to Remain in
:30:47. > :30:49.the European Union and he's concerned Brexit could make things
:30:50. > :30:54.difficult down on the farm. Our business needs sound
:30:55. > :30:58.economic growth and you know at my time in life, probably,
:30:59. > :31:03.I hate to say it but, you know, if we are messing around
:31:04. > :31:07.with our business for the next 15 or 20 years, that's probably
:31:08. > :31:10.going to be my career done and I just felt we needed a strong
:31:11. > :31:15.economy and to keep going forward. The message from government
:31:16. > :31:18.is everything will be fine. I am determined that we secure
:31:19. > :31:22.a deal on leaving the EU that works for all parts of the UK
:31:23. > :31:27.and recognises the contribution that all corners of this country make
:31:28. > :31:31.to our economic success. But it is not just the export
:31:32. > :31:34.business that's a concern on this Farming accounts for around
:31:35. > :31:40.?1 billion worth of business in this On farms like these,
:31:41. > :31:47.farmers received around ?70 an acre in EU subsidies but with Brexit,
:31:48. > :31:50.that money is likely to go. Leave campaigner Owen Paterson
:31:51. > :31:59.is the MP for this area. He says farmers like Malcolm have
:32:00. > :32:03.nothing to fear from Brexit. They have a wonderful opportunity
:32:04. > :32:08.to help design a completely new rural policy tailored
:32:09. > :32:11.around their industry And that's multiple opportunities
:32:12. > :32:18.now to use significant funds of money, don't forget we will have
:32:19. > :32:21.more as we stop sending money to Brussels,
:32:22. > :32:23.we will have more to spend. We can target that money in a much
:32:24. > :32:26.more effective manner. Just 50 miles away in Staffordshire,
:32:27. > :32:30.the atmosphere on this 500 acre beef and arable farm
:32:31. > :32:33.is one of excitement. He wants to take back
:32:34. > :32:38.control and he has no I don't think we need to be
:32:39. > :32:44.in the club, as I used to call it. We are still in Europe,
:32:45. > :32:48.we still farming in Europe, I still think in the future
:32:49. > :32:52.we will be trading with Europe. There may be a stand-off for now,
:32:53. > :32:58.but it is inevitable there will be locking of horns as ministers
:32:59. > :33:02.try to get right the terms of Brexit And Joanne Gallagher
:33:03. > :33:10.tells me that is the correct way to handle a lamb,
:33:11. > :33:13.not so sure she's quite got the hang But Nigel, what would you say
:33:14. > :33:19.to those farmers who are worried about their subsidies and who do
:33:20. > :33:23.feel that the European Union, backed up by those militant French farmers,
:33:24. > :33:26.is a better guarantor of those subsidies than the vagaries
:33:27. > :33:30.of who knows how many future Well, the British government has
:33:31. > :33:38.been clear that up until 2020 the subsidies will be the same
:33:39. > :33:41.and of course it is very reasonable There will be a British
:33:42. > :33:44.agricultural policy as opposed to a Common Agricultural Policy
:33:45. > :33:47.after that and as Owen has said, the intention is to continue
:33:48. > :33:50.with subsidies in some way, shape or form as has happened
:33:51. > :33:53.across the other European countries We will continue and we have to work
:33:54. > :34:08.out exactly what the details of that will be over the next few years
:34:09. > :34:11.but it is incomprehensible that we would not continue with some
:34:12. > :34:14.form of subsidy because we need And that is the point, isn't it,
:34:15. > :34:18.such is the importance We had subsidies before we joined
:34:19. > :34:22.the then common market since 1957, that's how important
:34:23. > :34:23.it is to governments, I'm sure there will continue to be
:34:24. > :34:28.subsidies but there is no guarantee Every individual farmer gets
:34:29. > :34:31.a different level of subsidy depending on the size and efficiency
:34:32. > :34:35.of their farm, so I can understand why quite a lot of farmers
:34:36. > :34:37.are fearful of the uncertainty around exactly how much subsidy
:34:38. > :34:40.they are going to get in the future. Farmers like Ray Bower there think
:34:41. > :34:43.that leaving the EU could be an escape from red tape but we know
:34:44. > :34:46.that British governments can regulate like nothing on earth
:34:47. > :34:51.and you think about food hygiene, health and safety, land use,
:34:52. > :34:55.there's going to be a lot of regulation of the farming
:34:56. > :34:58.industry come what may, isn't there? There will continue to be some
:34:59. > :35:01.regulations but I have come across a lot of farmers
:35:02. > :35:04.like the gentleman who is very enthusiastic about leaving the EU
:35:05. > :35:07.precisely because of this red tape issue but to be fair,
:35:08. > :35:11.the NFU really agonised on the decision whether to Remain
:35:12. > :35:14.on Leave in terms of their official announcement and I think
:35:15. > :35:16.it was fairly representative what you've got there,
:35:17. > :35:18.it's still fairly split. What's the balance of opinion
:35:19. > :35:20.in your farming area because as I said, it does include
:35:21. > :35:23.some of the sort of prime farm Interestingly, the farmers
:35:24. > :35:26.I would say are predominantly Out but the farm production,
:35:27. > :35:29.food packaging and so on who are actually very,
:35:30. > :35:32.very strongly reliant on overseas labour, they were very strong
:35:33. > :35:37.advocates of remaining in the EU. Do you have some sympathy
:35:38. > :35:40.for what Owen Paterson said there that, you know,
:35:41. > :35:42.better that we have a British government legislating for British
:35:43. > :35:45.farmers with the interests of our environment, our industry
:35:46. > :35:49.at heart rather than something just As I said, there is no guarantee
:35:50. > :36:01.that farmers are going to get Some might get more but they are
:36:02. > :36:06.also worried about tariffs because if the Prime Minister
:36:07. > :36:08.and the government doesn't secure tariff free access,
:36:09. > :36:14.if we do have to fall back under WTO rules and tariffs, the average food
:36:15. > :36:17.tariff is around 12%. That could make our farming
:36:18. > :36:19.industry very uncompetitive because as you said in your film,
:36:20. > :36:23.40% of British lamb this other EU because as you said in your film,
:36:24. > :36:26.40% of British lamb goes to other EU countries and there will be similar
:36:27. > :36:29.figures for other foodstuff as well, foodstuff as well, so,
:36:30. > :36:32.you know, there are some real fears Again, it will depend what happens
:36:33. > :36:39.and it will depend what happens on tariffs coming into the UK
:36:40. > :36:43.as well and that remains to be seen. Food prices would worry
:36:44. > :36:45.people if they go up. Well they would, which is why
:36:46. > :36:51.we want to have a free trade deal if at all possible and we should
:36:52. > :36:54.be able to get that. We export ?7 billion of food
:36:55. > :36:56.and non-alcohol beverages but we import ?21 billion,
:36:57. > :36:59.so again it is in the European's best interest to get
:37:00. > :37:02.a good, food deal. best interest to get
:37:03. > :37:04.a good, fluid deal. Well, it's a shorter programme today
:37:05. > :37:11.but we do still have a full 60 seconds to spare for our round-up
:37:12. > :37:13.of the week's political highlights. The families of the victims
:37:14. > :37:17.of the Birmingham pub bombings have been told by the government they can
:37:18. > :37:21.now apply for legal aid ahead of the inquest into the deaths
:37:22. > :37:24.of the 21 who were killed. The Royal College of Surgeons has
:37:25. > :37:27.criticised plans to ration hip and knee replacement
:37:28. > :37:29.operations in Worcestershire. Clinical Commissioning Groups
:37:30. > :37:32.in Redditch and Bromsgrove, South Worcestershire and Wye Forest
:37:33. > :37:34.want to save money by cutting the number
:37:35. > :37:37.of procedures carried out. Children's services
:37:38. > :37:39.in Worcestershire have Ofsted criticised serious
:37:40. > :37:44.failures in the Department. On Monday, the writ
:37:45. > :37:48.was moved in the Commons Conservatives have named 25 year
:37:49. > :37:59.old City Councillor Jack Brereton as their candidate and Labour has
:38:00. > :38:01.elected former Newcastle-under-Lyme Council leader Gareth Snell to fight
:38:02. > :38:04.the seat vacated by Tristram Hunt. I'm very confident that Labour
:38:05. > :38:06.will win the election. We have got a plan, we know
:38:07. > :38:09.what we're going to do, we're going to be out talking
:38:10. > :38:12.to people and we're going to be putting forward the case
:38:13. > :38:15.that it is the Labour Party that Nominations for Stoke Central close
:38:16. > :38:21.on Tuesday and for more details about all the candidates so far
:38:22. > :38:25.declared, go to the BBC Your candidate Emma has got quite
:38:26. > :38:30.an interesting Twitter history because when Owen Smith
:38:31. > :38:34.was challenging for the leadership he supported him and Owen Smith
:38:35. > :38:37.was being targeted as a former Pfizer lobbyist and he said well,
:38:38. > :38:41.if that's fair game, it's OK to call Jeremy Corbyn an IRA
:38:42. > :38:45.supporting friend of Hamas. So it's all not it is at least
:38:46. > :38:56.weakness and light, is it? So it's all not it is not
:38:57. > :38:59.sweetness and light, is it? Well, Gareth is an
:39:00. > :39:01.excellent candidate. He has roots in the constituency,
:39:02. > :39:04.unlike some of the other candidates, He also has a relevant local
:39:05. > :39:07.political experience, used to be the leader of Newcastle
:39:08. > :39:09.Council. And he's no fan of your party leader
:39:10. > :39:12.either by the looks of it. He is already talking
:39:13. > :39:14.about his priorities for Stoke, which is protecting the potteries,
:39:15. > :39:17.making sure that we get the best possible Brexit deal for them
:39:18. > :39:20.and making sure we protect workers' rights at the same time,
:39:21. > :39:22.so he's focusing on local issues. This is a local by-election
:39:23. > :39:25.and I hope very much that Gareth Obviously Labour want this
:39:26. > :39:29.by-election to be NHS central and given your run of embarrassing,
:39:30. > :39:31.including the breaking news on Friday from your county
:39:32. > :39:34.about rationing of hip and knee replacement surgery,
:39:35. > :39:36.you're on the back foot on health every time you stand
:39:37. > :39:39.for an election, your party. Well, I don't think we're
:39:40. > :39:43.on the back that all the time. Well, I don't think we're
:39:44. > :39:46.on the back foot all the time. We are putting more money
:39:47. > :39:49.into health but obviously we have got to work on operations and make
:39:50. > :39:52.sure that we've run a very efficient health service as well,
:39:53. > :39:55.so we have got a good case to say that we are standing up for the NHS
:39:56. > :39:58.and I hope that continues. You should get behind Ukip, really,
:39:59. > :40:01.shouldn't you as the best chance Not at all, we fight
:40:02. > :40:04.by-elections to win them. On that happy note, we will see how
:40:05. > :40:08.that turns out as well. My thanks to Emma Reynolds
:40:09. > :40:10.and Nigel Huddlestone. Well, finally from me,
:40:11. > :40:13.are buses few and far between? On Tuesday, the Transport Secretary
:40:14. > :40:16.Chris Grayling will be steering his Local Bus Partnership Bill
:40:17. > :40:17.in the Commons. Also on Tuesday Solihull's
:40:18. > :40:19.Conservative MP Julian Knight opens a debate on measures for elderly
:40:20. > :40:22.and disabled bus passengers. There you are, two debates
:40:23. > :40:30.coming along at once. Welcome back and let's get back
:40:31. > :40:44.to Donald Trump's travel ban on refugees and citizens from seven
:40:45. > :40:49.mainly Muslim countries. Earlier, the Labour leader,
:40:50. > :40:52.Jeremy Corbyn, told ITV that a state visit by President Trump to the UK
:40:53. > :41:05.should not go ahead I think it would be totally wrong
:41:06. > :41:10.for him to be coming here while that situation is going on. He has to be
:41:11. > :41:14.challenged on this. So until the ban is lifted, you don't think he should
:41:15. > :41:18.come? I am not happy about him coming here until the ban is lifted.
:41:19. > :41:23.Look at what is happening with those countries. What will be the long
:41:24. > :41:28.term effect of this on the rest of the world? Is this state visit going
:41:29. > :41:34.to become a matter of huge political debate in this country? It would be
:41:35. > :41:38.anyway, but it is a temporary ban, so Jeremy Corbyn is on safe
:41:39. > :41:42.territory. It will be over by April and he is not due to come until
:41:43. > :41:47.summer. But there are three bands. There is the 90 day ban on people
:41:48. > :41:51.coming from the southern countries. There is the 120 day ban on refugees
:41:52. > :41:55.from anywhere in the world, and there is the indefinite ban on
:41:56. > :42:01.Syrian refugees. So there may still be some bans in place. But bear in
:42:02. > :42:05.mind the number of Syrian refugees and refugees from around the world
:42:06. > :42:08.that President Obama took over his eight years. There were years when
:42:09. > :42:14.it was not even up to 50 Syrian refugees that were taken since the
:42:15. > :42:19.civil war has started. This is an ongoing American policy. 12,500
:42:20. > :42:28.Syrian refugees have come in the last year. Before that, it was a
:42:29. > :42:31.hundred and sometimes under 50. But they are reasonable numbers now,
:42:32. > :42:38.although not something America couldn't absorb. Donald Trump is
:42:39. > :42:41.discovering that being a president is different from being a business
:42:42. > :42:45.man. And Jeremy Corbyn has to learn the art of leadership, having been a
:42:46. > :42:50.backbench MP, and has struggled to do it, as we are about to discuss
:42:51. > :42:54.with article 50. With this, you have to dramatise the politics of this,
:42:55. > :42:58.and this is what he has done with that statement. Most controversial
:42:59. > :43:03.ever state visit now? I would imagine so. Even regardless of any
:43:04. > :43:09.opposition from the opposition to trump's physical presence in the
:43:10. > :43:13.streets, the presence of demonstrators will be an
:43:14. > :43:17.international new story. If trump's demands for the details of the visit
:43:18. > :43:20.are quite as extreme and as picky as some of the Sunday papers have
:43:21. > :43:24.suggested, that could also be the source of controversy. What do you
:43:25. > :43:30.have in mind? Isn't he anxious that only certain members of the Royal
:43:31. > :43:35.Family turn up? He doesn't want a one-on-one with Prince Charles. Who
:43:36. > :43:42.would, though! Some people may be sympathetic on that. It is the one
:43:43. > :43:46.subject where he is in line with British opinion. Playing golf in
:43:47. > :43:50.front of the Queen may be a higher priority. We have to be realistic.
:43:51. > :43:53.Given the other people from around the world that the Queen has played
:43:54. > :43:57.host to, like the Chinese president and Saudi kings and the like, we
:43:58. > :44:03.have had a lot worse come to visit than Donald Trump. Brexit - how
:44:04. > :44:07.serious our neighbour's problems on this? Very serious, but they often
:44:08. > :44:14.are with Europe. Labour were splits when we joined in the 70s, and still
:44:15. > :44:17.won general elections, in 1974 and 1975. There were all over the place
:44:18. > :44:21.in terms of the single currency. Blair said one thing one day and the
:44:22. > :44:27.opposite the next day. Brown did the same.
:44:28. > :44:36.Brown usually set the opposite of what Blair said! They won landslide
:44:37. > :44:40.because they have the political skills to put all of the pressure on
:44:41. > :44:44.the major government, even though their position on the single
:44:45. > :44:49.currency was the same as major's. It is about with Europe the art of
:44:50. > :44:53.leadership. You have to be a political conjuror, you have to
:44:54. > :44:57.dissemble authoritative leak when you lead a divided party over
:44:58. > :45:01.Europe, and Jeremy Corbyn to his personal credit cannot dissemble,
:45:02. > :45:06.but he's not an individual person on this. He's leading a split party in
:45:07. > :45:12.danger of falling apart, and you need the skills of a political
:45:13. > :45:15.conjurer. Clearly self-evidently he's not displaying it because we
:45:16. > :45:20.are talking about the chaotic split which will manifest itself in that
:45:21. > :45:24.vote on Article 50. Labour and the SNP and the Lib Dems too I would
:45:25. > :45:28.have thought will all put amendments down to the short Article 50 piece
:45:29. > :45:35.of legislation. Do they have any chance of succeeding? No substantial
:45:36. > :45:39.world is changing amendments. I don't think Theresa May has much to
:45:40. > :45:43.worry about actually. I think if anything the reason she's pushed the
:45:44. > :45:48.legal appeal is that it helps her to have a big chunk of the media and a
:45:49. > :45:53.big chunk of public opinion worrying that the popular will of last year
:45:54. > :45:56.is in danger of being overturned and so even if it was a completely
:45:57. > :46:01.hopeless legal appeal, it generated headlines for a week that as an
:46:02. > :46:05.incumbent Prime Minister trying to execute believe vote suits you
:46:06. > :46:10.politically. I think it is a much bigger problem for Labour, we've
:46:11. > :46:14.already seen some Shadow Cabinet issues in the previous week. You
:46:15. > :46:19.have got to remember it's not just a majority of Labour MPs that want to
:46:20. > :46:24.stay in the European Union, but a majority of Labour constituencies,
:46:25. > :46:28.and a majority of labour macro voters wanted to stay as well so we
:46:29. > :46:32.have three lines of division. One amendment that might get through if
:46:33. > :46:35.it was called, and it is in the hands of the Deputy speaker who will
:46:36. > :46:40.be chairing these debates, and that will be an amendment that said
:46:41. > :46:46.regardless of how the Europeans treat our citizens in Europe, all EU
:46:47. > :46:52.citizens here will be afforded full rights to remain. That might get
:46:53. > :46:58.through. It may indeed and lots of backbench MPs would backpack. We all
:46:59. > :47:03.know there will not be mass deportations, it is not legal, it
:47:04. > :47:07.won't happen, it is simply a negotiating tactic. I agree with
:47:08. > :47:11.those who say you shouldn't be using people as a negotiating tactic, but
:47:12. > :47:16.the reality as it is the EU leaders that are doing that because it's
:47:17. > :47:20.already been offered. The remain as should be attacking the EU
:47:21. > :47:25.governments for not offering that in return. Article 50 is the easy bit
:47:26. > :47:28.for her. I agree with other members of the panel that she will get it
:47:29. > :47:33.through and the court case almost helps her by getting an easy journey
:47:34. > :47:37.through Parliament, then it gets really difficult. All of this has
:47:38. > :47:43.been a preamble and once she begins that nightmarish negotiation, there
:47:44. > :47:49.will be opportunities for a smart opposition to make quite a lot of
:47:50. > :47:55.the turmoil to come. Whether Labour are capable of that, let's wait and
:47:56. > :47:59.see. The divisions in Labour are nightmarish for them but by no means
:48:00. > :48:04.unprecedented. Arguably it was much more complicated in the early 1970s
:48:05. > :48:12.when you had Titans on either side, big ex-cabinet ministers... Tony
:48:13. > :48:18.Benn... Michael Foot, they were all at it. The fundamental issue of in
:48:19. > :48:25.or out, and they won two elections, so you have got to be really clever.
:48:26. > :48:26.But also how money more Labour MPs will resign. We shall find out this
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