10/06/2012

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:30:18. > :30:22.The anti-turbine policies of Good afternoon, welcomed the Sunday

:30:22. > :30:26.politics. As councillors in Lincolnshire clampdown on new wind

:30:26. > :30:33.farm developments, is it time are more authorities to say no at any

:30:33. > :30:40.more turbines? And Dolly's Reading Project expanse

:30:40. > :30:43.in the region, should our children be reliant on it? It was only a few

:30:43. > :30:48.short years ago that we mailed our first book to the children in

:30:48. > :30:55.Rotherham. Our guests, Clive Betts and Andrew

:30:55. > :30:59.Percy. Let's talk about wind power. Is it time to put a limit on the

:30:59. > :31:03.number of new wind turbines in the countryside? I do not think we

:31:03. > :31:07.should have a limit, we need more wind power and wave power, and more

:31:07. > :31:11.tidal power and solar-powered, and more renewables in general. The

:31:11. > :31:16.alternatives are to keep on using gas and oil, and we know there is a

:31:16. > :31:20.limit to how much we can produce in the world, demand is rising from

:31:20. > :31:23.many other countries, prices are going to go up. And if you think

:31:23. > :31:28.where oil and gas come from, the Middle East and Russia are not the

:31:28. > :31:31.most stable countries. We have got to develop renewable energy.

:31:31. > :31:35.Chancellor is preparing to cut the subsidies to wind farm developments,

:31:35. > :31:39.what happened to his claim of being the greenest government ever?

:31:39. > :31:43.want to continue that. We want to get of the dependency on coal and

:31:43. > :31:48.gas, and get on to renewables. We should build more nuclear as well,

:31:48. > :31:53.I think personally. We are developing the offshore wind farms,

:31:53. > :31:58.but we have to accept we have got large numbers of wind farms onshore

:31:58. > :32:00.already. In East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, we have hit our

:32:00. > :32:05.target for 2020. People are legitimately saying, we have taken

:32:05. > :32:11.our fair share, perhaps enough is enough. When they start looking for

:32:11. > :32:15.which -- new site, green energy companies might be crossing

:32:15. > :32:19.Lincolnshire of the list. The county council has adopted one of

:32:19. > :32:22.the most aggressive anti-turbine policies of any authority in the

:32:22. > :32:27.policy to stop what has been described as an unrestrained

:32:27. > :32:31.invasion. Worthy you look, you can hear them

:32:31. > :32:36.and you are aware of them. The noise is worse at night, we will

:32:36. > :32:38.not have a window open. If it is a sunny evening, you get the shadow

:32:38. > :32:44.flicker from the blades going through the House windows and

:32:44. > :32:49.across the lawn. For Martin, turbines are a sensitive issue.

:32:49. > :32:52.Despite spending time and money fighting them, two had been put up

:32:52. > :32:55.collect -- next to his house in Lincolnshire. Would you choose to

:32:55. > :33:02.buy a property with turbines as close as that? I think they look

:33:02. > :33:06.awful, they are expensive and inefficient and it was not for the

:33:06. > :33:11.developers potential greedy landowners, we would not have this

:33:11. > :33:15.infliction of forced upon us. week, if his views were echoed.

:33:15. > :33:18.Campaigners wrote their point on a lorry, while in the building behind,

:33:18. > :33:22.county councillors agreed measures to block future wind farms and

:33:22. > :33:25.fight any being built too close to homes. We have done our share,

:33:25. > :33:30.delivered our target in Lincolnshire, and we do not want it

:33:30. > :33:34.to become a dumping ground for wind turbines. In Lincolnshire, we are

:33:34. > :33:40.unique, we have houses spread across the whole county. I do not

:33:40. > :33:43.be -- and do not want to be in a position where some people have a

:33:43. > :33:49.huge 140 metre structure outside their house. This new policy could

:33:49. > :33:54.pose a problem as the UK needs to clean up its energy supplies. Four

:33:54. > :33:58.renewables Experts, wind place -- wind plays a bigger role. It is a

:33:58. > :34:03.very clean and efficient way of producing energy, it is established

:34:03. > :34:08.technology, it is important part of creating a renewable energy mix we

:34:08. > :34:16.need to keep the light on in Britain. From boiling the kitten --

:34:16. > :34:24.cattle to turning on lambs, we all used electricity. -- from boiling

:34:24. > :34:28.the kettle to turning on a light. But we are facing an energy gap as

:34:28. > :34:31.coal powered stations are turned off. Gas is currently the cheapest

:34:31. > :34:37.way of producing energy but there are warnings prices could rocket in

:34:37. > :34:41.the future. Onshore wind is next but turbines divide opinion.

:34:41. > :34:49.Nuclear sparks fears, call costs more and can be dirty, and offshore

:34:49. > :34:53.wind is the most expensive but advocates say prices will drop. For

:34:53. > :34:58.Anna, at finding the cheeping sort -- cheapest source of energy is

:34:58. > :35:03.vital. She is recovering from cancer cannot work. More than 15%

:35:03. > :35:06.of her income goes on energy bills. She is officially in fuel poverty.

:35:06. > :35:11.As the bills keep rising, it is getting harder to find the extra

:35:11. > :35:17.money. When we had a cold snap here, I had to borrow some money from my

:35:17. > :35:21.daughter, just to pop an extra fiver in to see us through till the

:35:21. > :35:25.next pay-day. If your bills went up to pay for a different type of

:35:25. > :35:29.energy, would you be able to afford it? No, I would be cutting down on

:35:29. > :35:35.things like food. The very basics. I would probably have to move.

:35:35. > :35:39.Rising bills are not the only concern. Last year, two of many at

:35:39. > :35:46.-- �12 million were paid in wind farm subsidies in Lincolnshire

:35:46. > :35:49.alone. Four critics, their -- that is too much. I think blackouts are

:35:49. > :35:54.a risk in the future. The government has misguidedly decided

:35:54. > :36:02.that wind power is the solution when it is not a solution. It is

:36:02. > :36:06.there because of its cost and lack of rad -- reliability, it is

:36:06. > :36:10.driving fuel poverty. Places like Lincolnshire, low wage economies,

:36:10. > :36:15.they can least afford high energy bills. We are warned time is

:36:15. > :36:18.running out to find a way to bridge the UK's energy gap. If wind is to

:36:18. > :36:23.be part of the solution, the government will have to work hard

:36:23. > :36:28.to silence the growing Corus of critics.

:36:28. > :36:33.We have been joined by Helen Rimmer, the regional campaigner for Friends

:36:33. > :36:38.of the Earth. You heard in that report, concerned about fuel

:36:38. > :36:41.poverty, people worried about paying their bills. If we continue

:36:41. > :36:46.to subsidise the wind farm industry, people's bills will go up even more,

:36:46. > :36:50.went they? There is a lot of misinformation about wind power. If

:36:50. > :36:54.you look at the reasons behind energy bill rises, it is down to

:36:54. > :36:59.rocketing gas prices. Also energy inefficiency of our housing stock

:36:59. > :37:03.which the government is not doing very much to address. Wind power is

:37:03. > :37:08.not a cause of energy bills rising, it is the fossil fuel treadmill

:37:08. > :37:12.that we are stuck on. But wind energy, green energy generally is

:37:12. > :37:21.putting extra money on our bills, isn't it? According to Ofgem, it

:37:21. > :37:28.put on 2p a day, compared to guess which was one of and �50 for the

:37:28. > :37:31.annual bill. -- compared to gas. Which was �150. The cost of wind

:37:31. > :37:35.farm energy is coming down rapidly, and it will come down more as

:37:35. > :37:40.economies of scale get bigger. should the Government's strategy be

:37:40. > :37:47.when it comes to onshore wind farms? Wind energy is working. It

:37:47. > :37:49.is always -- already powering 500 homes across the country. We have

:37:50. > :37:53.to increase the capacity, the benefits will be in cutting

:37:53. > :37:56.emissions, and in the economy, and the thousands of green jobs that

:37:56. > :38:00.will be created in Newt wind industries across the country,

:38:00. > :38:05.particularly in the north of England. It sounds like Helen once

:38:05. > :38:09.more wind turbines, what you say to that? We take a sensible view. It

:38:09. > :38:13.is the case that in renewable energy is subsidised by the

:38:13. > :38:16.taxpayer and bill payers. Everyone is honest about that. I do not have

:38:16. > :38:22.a problem with that because we have to move away from our dependency on

:38:22. > :38:25.fossil fuels, I accept that point. What we should be asking ourselves

:38:25. > :38:30.is what other alternative methods of generation can we be looking at?

:38:30. > :38:34.We need to be looking at carbon captor and storage. Helen is wrong,

:38:34. > :38:38.the of -- the government is doing an awful lot to tackle energy

:38:38. > :38:41.inefficiency in our homes. We have done pretty well on that in recent

:38:41. > :38:45.years, and I pay tribute to the other party when they were in

:38:45. > :38:48.government for that. There is a lot we can do. What people are saying

:38:48. > :38:53.to me is, we support this diversification of the energy mix,

:38:53. > :38:59.but it cannot all be one way, we cannot pepper the home of Lord --

:38:59. > :39:03.Yorkshire and Lincolnshire with wind turbines without having people

:39:03. > :39:08.having a say. Do you think it new developments should be railroaded

:39:08. > :39:10.into our countryside even if local residents do not warn them? There

:39:10. > :39:14.are inappropriate places for turbines but in the end, we will

:39:14. > :39:18.have to have more of them. We need the alternatives, we need a wave

:39:18. > :39:24.power and tidal power to be developed, and solar power. We need

:39:24. > :39:27.nuclear as well. You cannot exclude wind power, it is a very important

:39:27. > :39:30.part of the future of the energy mix so you cannot say we are not

:39:30. > :39:35.going to have any more wind turbines. We have got to be

:39:35. > :39:38.sensitive about it but we are going to need more. We asked -- also need

:39:38. > :39:46.a consistent long-term policy from government. It keeps changing its

:39:46. > :39:48.policy, so when we do put in wind turbines, what happens is the parts

:39:48. > :39:54.and manufacture or come from abroad and that is what has happened from

:39:54. > :39:57.abroad. We have imported the spot on Denmark. If we had a consistent

:39:57. > :40:01.long-term policy we would manufacture these parts in the

:40:01. > :40:06.country. Can you understand why people are suspicions of wind

:40:06. > :40:09.power? You see these turbines, they are often not going round. If we

:40:09. > :40:13.have other carbon three nuclear sources, nuclear power has been

:40:13. > :40:21.suggested today, why can we not be pumping money into that? If you

:40:21. > :40:28.look at opinion powers -- opinion polls around wind, it is about 60%

:40:28. > :40:30.is support. None of that is near their homes. It might be down to

:40:30. > :40:35.the way developers engage with communities we should not have been

:40:35. > :40:39.done as well as it should have been done. They need to engage with

:40:39. > :40:43.communities. Countries like Spain and Germany, there is a large --

:40:43. > :40:47.much larger proportion of energy for budget -- Becker produced by

:40:47. > :40:51.wind, there is higher community ownership.

:40:51. > :40:55.Dolly Parton is known for her two greatest assets, I am of course

:40:55. > :40:59.talking about her singing and acting abilities. What did you

:40:59. > :41:03.think?! The world's most famous country-music star has also been

:41:04. > :41:07.praised for her educational charity which helps children increase their

:41:07. > :41:11.reading skills. It is four years since dollars's programme came to

:41:11. > :41:18.Yorkshire and now it has arrived in one of Bradford's poorest housing

:41:18. > :41:22.estates. Snake in the trees? You and I just

:41:22. > :41:28.four years old, these children in Rotherham a love books and reading.

:41:28. > :41:37.They have had a helping hand since birth, and it has come from the

:41:37. > :41:43.unlikeliest of people. Four years ago, in a blaze of publicity, Dolly

:41:43. > :41:49.Parton came to Rotherham. Look at that beautiful hair?! Not as the

:41:49. > :41:53.world's most famous country singer, but as an ambassador she -- or her

:41:53. > :41:57.idea about boosting skills for children under five, posting each

:41:57. > :42:04.one a book a month. This week, her Imagination Library library sends

:42:04. > :42:11.out its 500,000 book. Four it was only a few years ago we e-mailed

:42:11. > :42:16.our fat -- it was only a few years ago week mailed our first book. We

:42:16. > :42:19.have got a long way to go. As we celebrate the master in, I wanted

:42:19. > :42:26.personally thanked our local sponsors and Palmers that work so

:42:26. > :42:33.hard to make this work. -- partners that works so hard. The idea came

:42:33. > :42:36.from Dolly Parton's own impoverished up bringing in East

:42:36. > :42:39.Tennessee. Launched in 1996, it spread to communities across

:42:39. > :42:46.America, bent Rotherham council heard about it and invited her to

:42:46. > :42:49.bring it here. The idea is simple. From birth, parents are encouraged

:42:49. > :42:54.to register their child and every month, they are sent a book in the

:42:54. > :42:59.post. The first book, the introductory book is the tale of

:42:59. > :43:02.Peter Rabbit. This has a little for word on it from Dolly Parton.

:43:02. > :43:07.parcel is personally addressed to the child. They can keep and build

:43:07. > :43:12.up their own library and it does not cost the family at any. We have

:43:12. > :43:18.looked at the profiles and compared those children who are receiving

:43:18. > :43:21.anti-turbine -- Imagination Library books to those who are not, and in

:43:21. > :43:24.the area of literacy, there is a 5.2% difference in performance

:43:24. > :43:29.which is really encouraging. I have always enjoyed looking at books

:43:29. > :43:32.with my children, and when Dolly Parton was doing it, I thought, was

:43:32. > :43:38.it just a publicity stunt? But now I think it has been fantastic for

:43:38. > :43:42.them. Once upon a time, there were three billy goats gruff.

:43:42. > :43:46.Canterbury estate on the edge of Bradford wants to be the 31st

:43:46. > :43:49.community in the UK to start a Imagination Library scheme. Like

:43:50. > :43:53.the rest, they know it will be a struggle to raise the sponsorship

:43:53. > :43:57.for the �2 per month per child costs, but the organisers believe

:43:57. > :44:01.that with some studies showing one in five homes here do not have a

:44:01. > :44:04.single book in the House, it is one -- worth the effort. Books are

:44:04. > :44:09.expensive. If you are of limited income there are difficult choices

:44:09. > :44:12.to be made, and books can be seen as a luxury. This is a means of

:44:12. > :44:16.getting books into homes where they might not normally be able to

:44:16. > :44:21.access books. There are many that find it astonishing that after

:44:21. > :44:26.decades of government and other home-grown initiatives, so many

:44:26. > :44:30.communities are turning to a scheme set up by Dolly Parton to improve

:44:30. > :44:35.the reading skills of our children. But a lot of people know this but

:44:35. > :44:38.Andrew Percy is a country music fan, he was singing along! He is also a

:44:38. > :44:42.teacher and you have taught primary-school children, what do

:44:42. > :44:48.you make of this programme? I hope it gets more people interested in

:44:48. > :44:51.new country, we need more of that! It is a brilliant programme. The

:44:51. > :44:55.kids who are receiving this are doing much better, in literacy

:44:55. > :44:58.skills. We would like to see this sort of programme expanded across

:44:59. > :45:02.the country. The key thing is getting kids at home reading with

:45:02. > :45:06.their parents. I knew from a kid I used to teach, if their parents

:45:06. > :45:10.spent the time going to go -- books with them, they did better in

:45:10. > :45:13.school. There was a worrying statistic in that report, one in

:45:13. > :45:19.five of the poorest households in Yorkshire do not have a single book

:45:19. > :45:21.in their home, what you make of it? It is very worrying. Let's give

:45:22. > :45:26.credit to Dolly Parton and Rotherham Council for pioneering

:45:26. > :45:29.this, well done to them. I would be worried about those households

:45:29. > :45:35.without the books in them, the books come through the post, do

:45:35. > :45:37.they still believe -- read them to the children? I am worried there

:45:37. > :45:41.are still parents who would be worried themselves because their

:45:41. > :45:47.literacy is not very good and they were never read to by the Rev

:45:47. > :45:49.parents. What we have also done in this country is develop Sure Start

:45:49. > :45:53.centres to encourage parents to come in and work with their

:45:53. > :45:57.children to get into the habit of reading. The tragedy is, in the

:45:57. > :46:01.first three years of this Parliament, there will be �1.5

:46:01. > :46:06.billion cut from these centres. All of -- over half will have a

:46:06. > :46:09.reduction in service. It is a great scheme but at a time when all these

:46:09. > :46:15.cuts are going on to children's services, they could damage those

:46:15. > :46:18.families. It depends what local councillors to mind -- decide

:46:18. > :46:22.themselves. In my area, they have taken out costs in senior

:46:22. > :46:26.management levels to protect services such at that. It is a

:46:26. > :46:32.cheap point, we know the public finances where they are but they

:46:32. > :46:36.have to be reductions. Councils can manage this manage this. When you

:46:36. > :46:40.have got to cut a quarter of your budget, you just can't take that

:46:40. > :46:50.out just senior management. Come to East Yorkshire and we will show you

:46:50. > :46:54.

:46:54. > :47:00.have to do it. The allegations have been coming

:47:00. > :47:05.thick and fast for Baroness Darcy, the latest is that the Jewsbury

:47:05. > :47:09.born peer failed to declare a shared business interests with a

:47:09. > :47:12.relative who accompanied her on official visit to Pakistan. The

:47:12. > :47:15.Hull MP who referred her to the police things she is now more

:47:15. > :47:20.likely to be out of the path for -- cabinet and the embattled Jeremy

:47:20. > :47:25.Hunt. He has chosen to sacrifice the Baroness but he is protecting

:47:25. > :47:29.Jeremy Hunt, I suspect the truth or all of this will come out in due

:47:29. > :47:33.course. As the body of 20 year-old private

:47:33. > :47:37.Greg Stone from East Yorkshire was repatriated, it emerged the

:47:37. > :47:41.Yorkshire Regiment may be facing cuts. Defence secretary Philip

:47:41. > :47:45.Hammond confirmed whole units could be lost or merged.

:47:45. > :47:48.And they were amused! Politicians from across Yorkshire and

:47:48. > :47:56.Lincolnshire ignited beacons and took part in the celebrations to

:47:56. > :48:00.mark the Queen's diamond jubilee. Andrew Percy, what you make of that

:48:00. > :48:05.claim by Karl Turner of that David Cameron is trying to sacrifice the

:48:05. > :48:11.Baroness to save Jeremy Hunt? a mate of mine, he is playing a

:48:11. > :48:15.political game. The to situations are different, they are completely

:48:15. > :48:19.separate. Mixing the two together seems a little cheap. That is not

:48:20. > :48:22.true. The baroness has been referred on two point, one on

:48:22. > :48:26.expenses and one on a potential breach of the ministerial code

:48:26. > :48:30.which is what Jeremy had has been charged with as well by politicians

:48:30. > :48:33.in the House of Commons raising concerns about his behaviour. It is

:48:33. > :48:37.interesting that Jeremy Hunt is seen as one of the posh boy club

:48:37. > :48:40.members along with the Prime Minister and the Chancellor, he is

:48:40. > :48:45.protected by David Cameron but when it comes to the baroness who is not

:48:45. > :48:49.a member of the posh boys club, she is immediately referred for an

:48:49. > :48:53.inquiry. What makes me laugh about all of this, the one thing the

:48:53. > :48:58.Labour doing is saying, we have to do something about the baroness.

:48:58. > :49:05.The moment the Prime Minister does something and refers to, they pop

:49:05. > :49:12.up saying, isn't that disgusting? Jeremy Hunt, his appointed special

:49:12. > :49:14.adviser said 150 e-mails, but he is as far as well for his special

:49:15. > :49:20.adviser. We are not saying he is guilty, we are saying they should

:49:20. > :49:24.be a proper inquiry by the poise of -- peasant appointed to inquire

:49:24. > :49:29.into ministerial breaches of code. So the point is, one is related to

:49:29. > :49:36.a special adviser who lost his job, this is a far -- an issue related

:49:37. > :49:42.to personal Macias. Both are good at -- ministerial codes, one is

:49:42. > :49:47.referred a one is not. We have got to stop throwing this posh boy or

:49:47. > :49:56.argument around. One of your MPs did it! It was Nadine Dorries!