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:01:26. > :01:30.Stay with us were the Sunday Politics and the North where we go

:01:30. > :01:40.on a hunt for the missing European millions and claims like Yorkshire

:01:40. > :01:40.

:01:40. > :37:50.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2169 seconds

:37:50. > :37:54.and Lincolnshire losing out. You are watching this Sunday at

:37:54. > :37:59.politics for Yorkshire, Lincolnshire. We will be finding

:37:59. > :38:07.out why targets for affordable homes are being slashed in some

:38:07. > :38:14.areas. Could a generation of cash- strapped homebuyers be kept out the

:38:14. > :38:19.market? The scramble has begun far hundreds of millions of pounds for

:38:19. > :38:26.regional aid. But army being left behind? More from Brussels and a

:38:26. > :38:30.moment. First let's meet our guests. Alec Shelbrooke is the MP for Elmet

:38:30. > :38:36.and Rothwell. And we have Denis MacShane, the Labour MP for

:38:36. > :38:41.Rotherham. We're going to talk about Europe. In the week when the

:38:41. > :38:49.you has been awarded the Nobel Prize, that has cost nothing but

:38:49. > :38:55.war in your party. -- EU. Dennis is a very keen supporter of the

:38:55. > :39:01.European Union. But his friend for Luton is not so. It is spread

:39:01. > :39:11.across the parties. You are former Europe Ministers. Is it tough being

:39:11. > :39:18.a Europhile? They are in England. A Government that is hostile and most

:39:18. > :39:26.of the Labour Party, and other parties are very hostile. This week

:39:26. > :39:36.has been bad because Europe has torpedoed a very important merger

:39:36. > :39:38.

:39:38. > :39:46.between two aerospace giants. That is going to cost a real? Whether

:39:46. > :39:51.the British defence industry can go-it-alone in the future.

:39:51. > :39:55.question we are asking today is that could Yorkshire miss out on

:39:55. > :40:00.hundreds of millions of pounds of funding for regeneration projects

:40:00. > :40:07.because it is not asking Europe for the money? A special event was held

:40:07. > :40:15.in Brussels this week for the next round of European funding. Most of

:40:15. > :40:21.the local into a size -- enterprise partnerships did not send anyone.

:40:21. > :40:24.The opening session - five days discussing and lobbying of the next

:40:24. > :40:28.round of regional development funding and every region from every

:40:28. > :40:35.member country turned up in strength and Brussels. But it was

:40:35. > :40:39.hard to find anyone batting for Yorkshire and Lincolnshire. There

:40:39. > :40:44.is no one representing the area. There was no longer a single voice

:40:44. > :40:51.speaking for the regional regional other teas. Her the stakes are

:40:51. > :40:57.extremely high. In the last round between 2007 and 2013, the 10

:40:57. > :41:03.regions got 10.2 billion euros between them. But this time around

:41:03. > :41:10.there are two -- 271 regions from across Europe check-in here to

:41:10. > :41:15.Brussels for their share of the cake. As the crow flies, I have

:41:15. > :41:20.come up 300 miles from that meeting. What is happening there has a

:41:20. > :41:25.direct impact in what is happening here. This is Dewsbury in West

:41:25. > :41:29.Yorkshire and over the years it has benefited from quite a lot of

:41:29. > :41:33.European funding. But the problem here and for many towns across

:41:33. > :41:40.Yorkshire and Lincolnshire is that the job of redevelopment has still

:41:40. > :41:43.got a long way to go and it needs more of those EuroMillions. This

:41:43. > :41:47.man opened a shop on the back of public spending making the town

:41:47. > :41:53.more attractive to shoppers. Far hen that investment has to continue

:41:53. > :41:58.and he does not care whether it isn't pounds or Euros. Anything

:41:58. > :42:02.they could do it to improve employment and the area. I loved

:42:02. > :42:06.Dewsbury and I can see the potential. But I have got to do

:42:06. > :42:10.more than see the potential. We want to see things happening.

:42:10. > :42:17.in Brussels the powerful commissioner for the region says

:42:17. > :42:22.time is running out. Time -- money will be available from 2014 but as

:42:22. > :42:27.a region they have to speak up for it. It is important to do it now

:42:27. > :42:35.and then the next few weeks because hopefully there will be a decision

:42:35. > :42:39.by the end of November. Therefore it is important to be tough when

:42:39. > :42:44.you lobbying. Her members are looking on with excreting alarm.

:42:44. > :42:53.The region's local partnerships say they are not funded to go to

:42:53. > :43:01.Brussels. Some descended Para -- representatives but only a handful.

:43:01. > :43:06.-- some did send representatives. Her we are getting money that'll be

:43:06. > :43:10.used to help a region. If you go to parts of West Yorkshire, around the

:43:10. > :43:14.Humber and North Lincolnshire, some of the biggest projects that have

:43:14. > :43:19.brought jobs have started because of European funding. Because we

:43:19. > :43:24.have European funding, we get extra funding from our own Government.

:43:24. > :43:28.Across the road from the existing European Parliament, this massive

:43:28. > :43:33.new building in Brussels shows just how the competition for regional

:43:33. > :43:39.funding if is growing. With 27 member states now, the need all

:43:39. > :43:43.this extra space. Denis MacShane, D U by this

:43:43. > :43:53.argument that we are missing out on millions of pounds of regeneration

:43:53. > :43:55.

:43:55. > :44:01.funding? -- took you. Her local enterprise partnerships are worried

:44:01. > :44:09.they have been told not to go to Europe. Whenever you think about

:44:09. > :44:13.the European Union, we are still in it. -- whatever you think about.

:44:13. > :44:18.Because of the Tory isolationism, we are not there. You walk down

:44:18. > :44:23.there was reason Brussels and you see the regions of you if are there.

:44:23. > :44:27.They are not the one meeting every few years, their lobbying for help

:44:27. > :44:30.and money morning and night. Because of are anti-European

:44:30. > :44:35.Government, we are cutting ourselves off from a major source

:44:35. > :44:42.of funding, especially for the North, because we have a Cabinet

:44:42. > :44:48.which exists not just for Great Britain, but London, which does not

:44:48. > :44:54.know whether North says. We might need some of this money but we have

:44:54. > :44:58.not bothered to read for it. It is not fair for Dennis to make the

:44:58. > :45:02.accusation that the Cabinet does not know where the North there is.

:45:02. > :45:05.The International Development Secretary is from Rotherham. It is

:45:05. > :45:11.unreasonable to suggest the Conservative Party and the

:45:11. > :45:15.Government have no idea what the North is. It is a strange situation

:45:15. > :45:21.we are in right now. I have not had the chambers coming to me saying

:45:21. > :45:25.they have been told not to apply for things. There has been some

:45:25. > :45:32.breakdown in communication, but you would have hoped that the MEPs

:45:32. > :45:38.would have been speaking to the chambers before we got to the stage.

:45:38. > :45:43.The fact is in Yorkshire and Humber, I am afraid we are hamstrung by

:45:43. > :45:48.having a BNP MEP who has not done a single thing since getting elected.

:45:48. > :45:57.He got elected on the politics of eight and has not done as single

:45:57. > :46:03.thing sense. We are already down before we can make a stark. People

:46:03. > :46:09.always saying we pay �10 billion a year into the European Newenden --

:46:09. > :46:19.European Union. We could put some of that money into our back yard.

:46:19. > :46:27.

:46:28. > :46:32.If we pulled out we would have to have some regional funding. The

:46:32. > :46:38.real problem is, let's leave the referendum are out for another time,

:46:39. > :46:43.the real problem is this Government is hostile to Europe and it means

:46:43. > :46:51.we are cutting off our nose to spite her face. We are represented

:46:51. > :47:01.by an unpleasant BNP man. And you check people who are not interested

:47:01. > :47:09.

:47:09. > :47:15.in bringing in money to the area. - - UK I p people. As a result,

:47:15. > :47:21.Yorkshire has got one Labour MEP, she does a fantastic job, but that

:47:21. > :47:25.is about it. A to summer, is it about time we should bid for this

:47:25. > :47:34.money for the area and the rest of our party of the world, otherwise

:47:34. > :47:38.it will go to other countries? have not had any one come to me

:47:38. > :47:48.saying that that has not been allowed. We do have any she's there

:47:48. > :47:51.

:47:51. > :47:55.who should be coming back. Let's go back on some points here, the

:47:55. > :48:00.Conservative Party as it stands today, is not saying we should

:48:00. > :48:06.completely cut her nose of his fighter fees. But we are Colin at

:48:06. > :48:14.for analysis far where we live within it European Union. --

:48:14. > :48:19.calling far. That is where the big difference between Dennis and I

:48:19. > :48:22.live. We are going to move on to claims now that we could see a big

:48:22. > :48:28.following the number of affordable new ball was spilled over the

:48:28. > :48:31.coming years. The Government wants to reduce the requirement for

:48:31. > :48:37.developers to include smaller, more affordable homes on new estates.

:48:37. > :48:41.But it has led to a big difference of opinion between the new Planning

:48:41. > :48:47.Minister and his own Conservative- run County Council in Lincolnshire.

:48:47. > :48:52.Sharon Edwards has the story. This woman is proud to show off her

:48:52. > :48:56.new form. Just a few months ago this single mum was facing

:48:56. > :49:00.homelessness after years spent struggling to pay rent. Now she is

:49:00. > :49:06.one of the first residents to move into a new social housing estate

:49:06. > :49:10.near Lincoln. Her this is my room. It is very rare and extremely

:49:10. > :49:15.important to someone like me to secure a house like this. I would

:49:15. > :49:25.probably be end extreme debt, very calls because I would not have any

:49:25. > :49:28.

:49:28. > :49:33.form of heating on. I would have a problem looking after my children.

:49:33. > :49:37.A place to live - a rite of passage into adulthood. The glue that will

:49:37. > :49:42.help put the economy back together. House building and ownership are

:49:42. > :49:47.the cornerstones of the UK economy and psyche. But the number of homes

:49:47. > :49:51.being built here in Lincolnshire has fallen by almost 50% in four

:49:51. > :50:00.years. Now the Government believes it has found a way to get Britain

:50:00. > :50:08.building again. Allowing developers to build more of these and less of

:50:08. > :50:12.these - affordable mill homes that make less money. We do not want the

:50:12. > :50:17.sites to be frozen, we want to see some house building activity and of

:50:17. > :50:21.these renegotiate since can help, that is good for everyone. Councils

:50:21. > :50:26.have given planning permission for 8,200 homes that are yet to be

:50:26. > :50:32.built. There are some companies that saying that being able to run

:50:32. > :50:37.the renegotiate homes -- terms mean those homes will be built sooner.

:50:37. > :50:43.This area has already managed to renegotiate terms with the local

:50:43. > :50:47.council. The air is a need for affordable housing. At the moment

:50:47. > :50:52.the construction industry is not able to deliver a huge amount of

:50:52. > :51:02.that, given the difficult economic climate we are end. So people have

:51:02. > :51:07.to give attack -- take a pragmatic approach, such as provision of

:51:07. > :51:12.affordable housing. So central Lincolnshire is projected to get

:51:12. > :51:18.42,000 new homes over the next 20 years. Earlier this year, the

:51:18. > :51:23.council's agreed that 40% must be affordable. Now they have cut that

:51:23. > :51:28.target by 50%. Lincolnshire County Council is not happy that the

:51:28. > :51:34.Government plans to build even less. We are low wage economy here.

:51:34. > :51:44.People find it hard to buy a decent quality housing or rent decent

:51:44. > :51:46.

:51:46. > :51:56.housing. It suggests you do not care if people have a decent

:51:56. > :51:56.

:51:56. > :52:00.quality home. Get-well only BAF -- bit they can demonstrate with a

:52:00. > :52:06.good hard facts will they end deal to renegotiate the level of

:52:06. > :52:10.affordable housing down. It is one of the biggest challenges facing

:52:10. > :52:15.the coalition Government - How to marry the commercial drive behind

:52:15. > :52:24.house building without shutting out with those it -- all those most in

:52:24. > :52:30.need. It is said it is short sighted to

:52:30. > :52:35.cut their requirements of better quality homes. The actual housing

:52:35. > :52:40.allocation can be cut to developers can prove it is commercially and

:52:40. > :52:45.Bible. We are in the middle of one of the worst recessions that this

:52:45. > :52:51.country has ever seen and yet we have a massive housing shortage at

:52:51. > :52:57.the same time. We have got to get this housing economy moving. It is

:52:57. > :53:02.not saying it is going to be cut from 20% to 40%. It says you can

:53:02. > :53:08.cut the targets if you can prove that what is down is commercially

:53:08. > :53:12.unviable. The planning Minister says he was to get the construction

:53:12. > :53:22.industry moving again. It will not help if it is lumbered like targets

:53:22. > :53:25.

:53:25. > :53:32.set at them them of the industry? cut a three-quarters is expected.

:53:32. > :53:35.Each house built gives work to around 35 people. This is an anti-

:53:35. > :53:41.housing Government and to cut affordable housing which for my

:53:41. > :53:46.constituents and a lot of Alec's took is the most important pressing

:53:46. > :53:56.thing. It is a crying shame. We have a Government of southern

:53:56. > :53:56.

:53:56. > :54:03.millionaires, people with no idea what the needs of the North are.

:54:03. > :54:08.This cutting up of affordable housing, even affordable housing is

:54:08. > :54:14.very expensive, is a real crime. Labour says we can build 100,000

:54:14. > :54:24.new affordable homes by taking the money from the for GB licence. That

:54:24. > :54:27.

:54:27. > :54:32.is a win from up -- when fault for the mobile phone industry. That is

:54:32. > :54:39.something they can be a Tory idea. Every it Tories had seized it, I

:54:39. > :54:46.would say, good for the Tory Minister. You have been talking

:54:46. > :54:54.about the London posh boys again. He is on leader lives in up to �0.4

:54:54. > :55:01.million house in London. He represents Doncaster. We could make

:55:01. > :55:07.these silly political arguments, but we have to be pragmatic. --

:55:07. > :55:12.�2.4 million. Affordable housing is still being built, but people will

:55:12. > :55:22.be moving out some of the smaller houses into the medium is, that is

:55:22. > :55:28.

:55:28. > :55:32.creating affordable housing in the up lower end. Let's get some of --

:55:32. > :55:38.more of the week's political news in a part of the world. Stephen

:55:38. > :55:43.Sheard has our round-up in 60 seconds.

:55:43. > :55:47.The behaviour of police during and after the Hillsborough disaster is

:55:47. > :55:53.to be part of the biggest ever independent inquiry into police

:55:53. > :56:02.wrongdoing. Some offences includes manslaughter and perjury. It was

:56:02. > :56:08.bad jobs -- news and jobs in Sheffield council. 500 miners face

:56:08. > :56:15.redundancy due to geological problems at Allo all out. We hope

:56:15. > :56:21.we Kenji mining until the planning permission runs out. A final

:56:21. > :56:28.agreement on plans to build a wind turbine factory in Hull has been

:56:28. > :56:32.held up. It is now unlikely to happen until early next year. More

:56:32. > :56:37.allegations have continued to emerge about Jimmy Savile. Some MPs

:56:37. > :56:40.have called for a change in the lock saw the entertainer can be

:56:40. > :56:48.posthumously stripped of his knighthood.

:56:48. > :56:58.Parliament resumes tomorrow. Would you look at what they could stretch

:56:58. > :57:02.

:57:02. > :57:07.people of their nine to posthumously. -- nine to it. I hope

:57:07. > :57:11.we can say something about this terrible series of accusations and

:57:11. > :57:15.the number of victims it seemed to be coming forward. I do not think

:57:15. > :57:20.we should be making any rash judgments but make sure that we can

:57:20. > :57:30.get some justice for the victims will stop which are like to see how

:57:30. > :57:37.

:57:37. > :57:41.am stripped of his night had? night hoots. I am interested in its

:57:41. > :57:47.internal trafficking, continued commercialisation of young children

:57:47. > :57:53.and the fact we have far more of this going on today. Jimmy Savile

:57:53. > :57:59.is dead - I am worried about their living victims of today's sexual

:57:59. > :58:06.abusers. Will South Yorkshire Police ever be able to recover from

:58:06. > :58:13.the damage done by that disaster? It the tell the truth, the whole

:58:13. > :58:17.trip -- truth and nothing but that is, the failure to name names of

:58:17. > :58:22.the officers who covered up the edges, that is what is needed to be

:58:22. > :58:27.done. Reconciliation and just go hand in hand, we need all the truth

:58:27. > :58:31.out there and just his other victims who were left to die and

:58:31. > :58:36.this amirs against them by a truly evil people at the time. Her as a

:58:36. > :58:40.West Yorkshire MP, let's talk about Sir Norman Bettison, criticised for

:58:40. > :58:44.some of the things he said if in the aftermath of the disaster.

:58:44. > :58:50.Where does this new investigation leave and? He says he is going to

:58:50. > :58:54.retire early next year. I do not think you should be allowed to

:58:54. > :58:59.retire early. I think he should be suspended immediately. I think it

:58:59. > :59:03.is important that whatever report comes out and whether he is found

:59:03. > :59:08.to be innocent or guilty, the public should have faith in that

:59:08. > :59:13.report. Their ears to be the head of the Chief Constable position of

:59:13. > :59:19.yes Yorkshire Police, people may have conspiracy theories around

:59:19. > :59:23.that. Which is what the IPCC are saying in the second allegation. It

:59:23. > :59:28.is important that they say, you cannot retire until this matter is

:59:28. > :59:33.brought to rest and you must be suspended so you cannot be accused

:59:33. > :59:40.of being involved. Then the public can draw conclusions on whatever

:59:40. > :59:46.has been drawn. I think both leaders made good speeches. I

:59:46. > :59:52.cannot remember what Nick Clegg said. They treated us with respect

:59:52. > :59:58.end learning his speech by heart. That is an old rule of oratory and

:59:58. > :00:03.rhetoric. They read his speech out. He did it well, but I wonder if

:00:03. > :00:13.party conferences are needed any longer. I am on the record as

:00:13. > :00:15.

:00:15. > :00:22.saying we need to assess how weak to party conferences. -- how we do.

:00:22. > :00:25.I think the major difference between Ed Miliband's speech, it

:00:25. > :00:30.has been well received and the Prime Minister's speech, one was

:00:30. > :00:37.trying to establish himself as an authority figure, the other was the