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:39:49. > :39:54.Doncaster as a fortress in the town four Yorkshire, Lincolnshire and the

:39:54. > :40:02.North Midlands. It is election time again. They are under starter's

:40:02. > :40:10.orders in Doncaster as voters prepare to choose their next May. --

:40:10. > :40:13.Mayor. You the political number crunchers will be looking closely at

:40:13. > :40:23.Thursday's results in our part of the world. Len Tingle is here with a

:40:23. > :40:24.

:40:24. > :40:28.reminder of where this weeks battleground will be. County Hall in

:40:28. > :40:34.Northallerton, the council is largely blue. In 2009, Horden Brown

:40:34. > :40:40.was Prime Minister, Labour was not what in opinion polls and the

:40:40. > :40:45.Conservatives took full advantage. Let's take a look at what happened.

:40:45. > :40:50.The 72 seats, the Conservatives took 46 seats. The Liberal Democrats

:40:50. > :40:57.finished with just nine and labour just one seat. There were 14

:40:57. > :41:01.Independence as the second-largest group. Never having won a single

:41:01. > :41:07.council seat in any Yorkshire Council, UKIP is putting up 49

:41:07. > :41:13.candidates. The policies about immigration do have a knock-on

:41:13. > :41:21.effect with legal. It affects hospitals, housing, we are very

:41:21. > :41:28.short of housing. It will affect our schools. They will pick up some

:41:28. > :41:33.votes, there is no doubt about that. They have no history in local

:41:33. > :41:37.government and they appear to have very few local policies. When I did

:41:37. > :41:44.it interview a couple weeks ago with Nigel Farage, he kept talking about

:41:44. > :41:49.immigration in Europe which are to issues that have no relevance of

:41:49. > :41:54.local services in the county council. Labour has been noticing

:41:54. > :41:56.that national political polls are different from 2009. The current

:41:56. > :41:59.government is popularity is plummeting so Labour believes they

:41:59. > :42:07.can win back some of the seats at lost last time. The Liberal

:42:07. > :42:10.Democrats are putting on a brave face. For the first time, Labour are

:42:10. > :42:15.fielding a fool 72 candidates and we are the only party to do that.

:42:15. > :42:21.results we are getting from canvassing are much more positive

:42:21. > :42:24.this year than they have been in the last couple of years. But North

:42:24. > :42:31.Yorkshire is not the only county where the Tories make big gains. In

:42:31. > :42:38.Lincolnshire, the Conservatives took 62 of the 77 seats leaving the rest

:42:38. > :42:41.were just a handful. UKIP leader Nigel Farage has already been

:42:41. > :42:46.highlighting the growing number of Eastern European workers coming to

:42:46. > :42:55.the counties of the party fancies his chances. UKIP houses largest

:42:55. > :42:58.campaign ever. Is there room for anyone else? Shire counties have a

:42:58. > :43:06.tradition of independent counties and the Greens are also making a big

:43:06. > :43:09.effort. Each independent, and I think there are 32 is standing, are

:43:09. > :43:15.driven first and foremost by the desire to stand up and be counted

:43:15. > :43:18.for the local community. We have gone up from ten to 25 candidates

:43:18. > :43:22.and we are putting up much more effort where these candidates are

:43:22. > :43:29.standing. It is not something that eagle in North Lincolnshire have

:43:29. > :43:33.seen -- and not long -- North Yorkshire had seen before. We are

:43:33. > :43:38.finding that the three main parties are not what they want and they are

:43:38. > :43:42.turning to us and also to the independents. So it is back to the

:43:43. > :43:49.old argument, will be local or national arguments that give people

:43:49. > :43:59.the edge in these elections? guests today are Kris Hopkins, the

:43:59. > :43:59.

:43:59. > :44:06.Conservative MP for Keighley and Ilkley, Rosie Winterton and Godfrey

:44:06. > :44:14.Bloom. For the Liberal Democrats we have Edward McMillan-Scott, also an

:44:14. > :44:18.NEP for the Yorkshire and Humber region. You did very well in the

:44:18. > :44:24.elections in 2009, those heady days of opposition but surely you are

:44:24. > :44:31.basing yourself a heavy losses? were in opposition at the time and

:44:31. > :44:35.now we have to take these difficult decisions in government. We have a

:44:35. > :44:40.lot of hard-working councils who are interested in local issues, schools,

:44:40. > :44:50.getting your bins emptied, looking after all the people, the real

:44:50. > :44:51.

:44:51. > :44:59.issues. How important are these elections for Ed Miliband? The

:44:59. > :45:04.majority of workers -- people do not trust him as much as the current

:45:04. > :45:09.government. Instead of having a millionaires tax cut, we would put

:45:09. > :45:15.money into getting people back to work through restoring the tax

:45:15. > :45:19.credits. We will be saying that instead of having a rather curious

:45:19. > :45:25.Conservatory plan in order to lose the construction industry, we would

:45:25. > :45:29.be wanting to see a cut in VAT for one year in order to build 100,000

:45:29. > :45:34.affordable homes. These are the kind of choices that we are seeing the

:45:34. > :45:38.country needs to look at in these elections. Labour is one nation

:45:39. > :45:43.approach is to say that the division and unfairness that exists at the

:45:43. > :45:48.moment is a direct result of these coalition politics. Godfrey, what do

:45:48. > :45:52.you make of that comment of the Conservative group leader in

:45:52. > :45:55.Yorkshire? He says that you kept banging on about Europe and

:45:55. > :46:02.immigration but these are not the kind of issues you control and

:46:02. > :46:07.County Hall. That has not been my experience. Stephanie Todd did not

:46:07. > :46:13.talk about Europe at all there. This is about local issues and that is

:46:13. > :46:17.right. UKIP have a very good idea. We have a very eclectic mix of

:46:17. > :46:21.people, the picture, the baker, the candlestick maker. There is an awful

:46:21. > :46:28.lot of us with commercial experience which is sadly lacking in the town

:46:28. > :46:34.hall. So we're hoping to do quite well. Something else that is

:46:34. > :46:39.exciting is that we do not have a whipping. We do not have a whipping

:46:39. > :46:44.system. So we are not beholden to any sort of party dogma, we can do

:46:44. > :46:51.what is best for the local community. I think it is quite

:46:51. > :46:53.exciting. Edward McMillan-Scott, pretty dismal elections for the

:46:53. > :47:00.Liberal Democrats recently, what makes you think this will be

:47:00. > :47:04.different? I think there has been a different approach to the Lib Dem

:47:04. > :47:10.appeal than there was this time last year. Things are looking much

:47:10. > :47:14.better. We have some new policies, for example no libraries have closed

:47:14. > :47:18.in a Liberal led administration across the country. There are not

:47:18. > :47:24.many of those in Yorkshire. Thank heavens there are still enough and

:47:24. > :47:31.we will try to keep them there. It is a Tory led administration and

:47:31. > :47:35.needs to change. It is UKIP that the Tories fear. There is a real chance

:47:35. > :47:38.that UKIP will take some seats are few in some of these counties.

:47:38. > :47:44.don't think it will just be the Conservative Party who will be

:47:44. > :47:51.looking to see how effective that UKIP campaigners. They have become

:47:51. > :47:57.the party of protest. As Godfrey says, the advent wept, the arrant

:47:57. > :48:04.series about this. The other gimmicks party. -- they art of the

:48:04. > :48:10.gimmicks party. The Liberal Democrats were the protest party,

:48:10. > :48:20.they are now taking some responsibility in government.

:48:20. > :48:21.

:48:21. > :48:26.are a gimmick, Godfrey Bloom. of people have moved over from the

:48:26. > :48:29.Conservative Party because they want to do a better job and to be

:48:29. > :48:33.associated with a rather better organisation and this appalling

:48:33. > :48:36.coalition government we have at the moment. They are bringing a lot of

:48:36. > :48:41.expertise forward and I think that is something that has been sadly

:48:41. > :48:44.lacking in the traditional parties. One of the most hotly contested

:48:44. > :48:50.elections will be in Doncaster were ten candidates are vying to become

:48:50. > :48:54.the . The man who won as an English Democrat four years ago to the

:48:54. > :49:00.surprise of many, Peter Davis, is standing as an independent this

:49:00. > :49:03.time. Whoever gets the job will face a big challenge. Three years ago a

:49:03. > :49:08.government hit squad was sent to run the council and now there is a

:49:08. > :49:16.possibility that Doncaster lose control of its children's services

:49:16. > :49:24.department. James Vincent reports. They are counting the votes here at

:49:24. > :49:28.Doncaster racecourse. Insert your first past the post pun here. Of

:49:28. > :49:34.course it is not first past the post, it is the system that saw

:49:34. > :49:42.Peter Davies get elected for the English Democrats in 2009. They have

:49:42. > :49:48.had this system for 11 years now. But it is still a pity -- pretty

:49:48. > :49:52.grim time to be and local elections in Doncaster. All decisions are

:49:52. > :49:59.scrutinised and reported back to the government. What does this tell us

:49:59. > :50:05.about Doncaster? Doncaster has been recorded as a failing council and it

:50:05. > :50:09.does need changing. We're still in a mess and the government is

:50:09. > :50:14.threatening to take over services from us so for this reason, I feel

:50:14. > :50:19.it is time for change in Doncaster. We have got people in from outside

:50:19. > :50:26.who come in for a few months at a time, take fortunes in wages and

:50:26. > :50:30.achieve nothing. People need to see that the council is being run fairly

:50:30. > :50:33.and in a professional manner for the people, rather than for the people

:50:34. > :50:40.with interests who work in the council. This is something that

:50:40. > :50:45.matters sometimes been the case. projects have been finished, like

:50:45. > :50:49.the council buildings. It has been suggested that has forgotten about

:50:49. > :50:54.the bread-and-butter of keeping people safe. It is the first in the

:50:54. > :50:57.country to have a department taking away from it. The accusation from

:50:57. > :51:02.the government is that it is not looking after children well enough

:51:02. > :51:08.ill stop everybody is concerned about children's services. The fact

:51:08. > :51:14.is, things have progressed. Lord Carlile says it is better than 2009

:51:14. > :51:21.and we are working to make sure it gets better. Michael G is bringing

:51:21. > :51:28.in a fourth commissioner all about children's services. It is about us

:51:28. > :51:30.doing what we can for Doncaster. There should be direct

:51:30. > :51:37.responsibility for that department and people should be held

:51:37. > :51:43.responsible. But I'll still believe in this stab his confidence has been

:51:43. > :51:48.shot to pieces. Investment is required urgently. It is a job that

:51:48. > :51:52.seems to get cover every election. Whoever Doncaster backs will be

:51:52. > :51:56.saddled with the job of restoring the council's reputation.

:51:56. > :52:00.People have long memories in Doncaster, they remember the

:52:00. > :52:07.problems caused under tedious Labour administrations. Why should they

:52:07. > :52:14.trust you again? What we have in Peter Davies is someone who sat in

:52:14. > :52:19.this studio and said, I was a conservative for 22 years and I

:52:19. > :52:22.still believe in their policies. So he has not been standing up for

:52:22. > :52:27.Doncaster. He has been focusing on things like cutting down trees on

:52:27. > :52:31.the racecourse, attempting to shut the libraries. He has not been

:52:31. > :52:36.thinking about it proper vision for Doncaster and he hasn't been doing

:52:36. > :52:41.things of like sorting out children's services. If you contrast

:52:41. > :52:47.that with Ros Jones, who is talking about bringing apprentices and,

:52:47. > :52:52.stimulating affordable housing, as a real vision. It is about leadership

:52:52. > :52:57.and Peter Davies has not shown that leadership. He has been a popular

:52:57. > :53:03.figurehead for the town, hasn't he? I don't think he has. When you look

:53:03. > :53:08.at what he has focused on, cutting trees down on the racecourse, not

:53:08. > :53:12.sorting out children's services, somebody who has said, I am a

:53:12. > :53:20.conservative at heart and is therefore not able to take on the

:53:20. > :53:24.conservative coalition government. He has been seeing, this is why

:53:24. > :53:29.Doncaster has been badly hit by the cuts. He is not been a near guarding

:53:29. > :53:39.with the government because basically he agrees with the

:53:39. > :53:43.Conservative approach. How would you rate the Lib Dems chances? I hope

:53:43. > :53:48.John Browne does it a lot better than you are making out. He will not

:53:48. > :53:55.have spent �20 million on council headquarters because it is clear

:53:55. > :53:59.going around canvassing, people recognise that in a Lib Dem, you

:53:59. > :54:03.have somebody who will do things between elections and not just send

:54:03. > :54:09.you a leaflet about going to talk to you. It has been refreshing to see

:54:09. > :54:13.the responses from people. People are concerned about their local

:54:13. > :54:17.services and in Doncaster they have a real choice, in fact they have

:54:17. > :54:22.more than one choice on the ballot paper. Stick to John Brown and you

:54:22. > :54:27.will be picking the right man. is no UKIP candidate, who are you

:54:28. > :54:31.backing? No particular candidate on this occasion because we felt we

:54:31. > :54:37.didn't have the right person and we feel this was an aborted job for the

:54:37. > :54:41.right person. We know there is nothing wrong with the people so

:54:41. > :54:47.something must be going wrong with the system. The problem is endemic,

:54:47. > :54:53.when you have a town that has had a built-in majority for a decade after

:54:53. > :55:01.decade, you get incompetence and corruption. There are plenty of

:55:01. > :55:08.conservative towns where this is more sophisticated. But that has

:55:08. > :55:14.been run by Peter Davies for the last four years. You haven't cleaned

:55:15. > :55:18.up the mess he left since the war. He has been criticised by the audit

:55:18. > :55:26.commission for not focusing enough on children's services. This is my

:55:26. > :55:29.point. He has slightly peculiar eccentric policies that focus on

:55:29. > :55:37.certain issues but not dealing with the leadership that Doncaster

:55:37. > :55:41.needs. We need to get jobs and investment. Children's services in

:55:41. > :55:47.Rotherham is an absolute disaster and that is another Labour barony.

:55:47. > :55:55.We need to get away from this we are a label thing in local government.

:55:55. > :56:04.Eagles should say, I believe in this and this is what I will do. It is

:56:04. > :56:08.endemic. You put in your manifesto in the UKIP that you stand on. For

:56:08. > :56:14.example, I noticed in one of your recent manifesto is that we need to

:56:14. > :56:19.build more prisons. Labour in Doncaster but for an airport to be

:56:19. > :56:22.built, not a prison. It is these kind of things that you will be

:56:22. > :56:32.judged on. If you talk about removing the European investment

:56:32. > :56:34.

:56:34. > :56:38.from somewhere like Doncaster, that... �50 million we give to the

:56:38. > :56:43.European Union. There would be plenty of money if we do send all

:56:43. > :56:50.that money to the European Union. Businesses would be horrified by the

:56:50. > :56:56.approach that you take because it would mean higher and employment in

:56:56. > :57:00.Doncaster, less opportunity for jobs. Let me bring in Kris Hopkins

:57:00. > :57:04.because we forget that had voters supported the plans in a

:57:04. > :57:14.referendum, we would be having me all elections in Leeds and

:57:14. > :57:20.

:57:20. > :57:28.Sheffield. The US we were having elections for a Mayor written Mark?

:57:29. > :57:33.-- if we were having. Godfrey is living in cloud cuckoo land if he

:57:33. > :57:39.thinks he can put 30 or 40 people into a council unequipped. You end

:57:39. > :57:47.up with chaos. Labour has a reputation in Doncaster, the

:57:47. > :57:49.independents also do. This failed leadership has led to vulnerable

:57:49. > :57:54.children not having support. The people of Doncaster deserve better

:57:54. > :58:04.than what they have been given. will get more of their week 's

:58:04. > :58:04.

:58:04. > :58:12.political news now. Louise Martin has a round-up in 60 seconds.

:58:12. > :58:15.The Battle of Fulford took place in 1066. The site where the English and

:58:15. > :58:20.Danes fought with axes and swords is now heading for another

:58:20. > :58:27.confrontation. York City council has he acted for a development. Could

:58:27. > :58:34.the homes destroyed our heritage? And more history has been

:58:34. > :58:37.challenged. Farmworkers pay has been set by the board for 60 years but

:58:37. > :58:41.the government says it wants farmers to negotiate with his workers from

:58:41. > :58:51.nylon and the board will be abolished. Wheatfield MP Mary

:58:51. > :58:52.

:58:52. > :58:56.Creagh, MP disagrees. Even Mrs Thatcher did not abolish it. It has

:58:56. > :59:06.been revealed George Galloway has had a private chat with it at -- Ed

:59:06. > :59:15.Miliband. On Twitter, Miller band said Ed Miliband has the backbone of

:59:15. > :59:21.an amoeba. What on earth was Ed Miliband doing

:59:21. > :59:29.meeting George Galloway? It was a bone boundary changes -- it was

:59:29. > :59:35.about boundary changes. What the conservative and Lib Dem government

:59:35. > :59:40.were proposing initially was, in a sense, gerrymandering the next

:59:40. > :59:43.election. What we did, we said that we wanted to reverse that change and

:59:43. > :59:50.leave the boundary changes as they were and that is what Ed Miliband

:59:50. > :00:00.was meeting George Galloway about. He is not any secret pact to join

:00:00. > :00:03.

:00:03. > :00:10.the Conservative Party? No.Godfrey Bloom, the Battle of Fulford, should

:00:10. > :00:13.housing be built on the site? course not, it is eight is grace. I

:00:13. > :00:20.do not understand the new way forward of trying to build on

:00:20. > :00:24.greenfield sites all the time. We need to conserve our greenbelt and

:00:24. > :00:30.conserve our wonderful heritage. I think it is an act of appalling

:00:30. > :00:34.vandalism to suggest we should build on it. Would you like to defend the

:00:34. > :00:43.coalition government planning policies? I think it is a bad

:00:43. > :00:50.decision by York. This was the sight of a battle. English Heritage must

:00:51. > :00:54.define it as a battle site because this will stop it from happening.

:00:54. > :00:59.The coalition government planning policies, I am not happy about some

:00:59. > :01:03.elements of them to be honest. I have always been very much in favour

:01:03. > :01:08.of conservation. I think there are risks in the rather free for all

:01:08. > :01:11.approach at the are being reviewed. The idea that you can extend your

:01:11. > :01:19.house without consulting your neighbours, I believe that is gone

:01:19. > :01:26.now. I am surprised that you would be at all in favour of the abolition

:01:26. > :01:28.of the agricultural wages bill. -- the agricultural wages board. There

:01:28. > :01:33.are thousands of workers in North Yorkshire who will be affected by

:01:33. > :01:42.this and the Conservative and Lib Dem MPs who voted for it to be

:01:42. > :01:46.abolished, that is exactly the kind of unfair... Added abolished the

:01:46. > :01:54.common agricultural policy. Is it going to drive down wages and bring

:01:54. > :01:59.more foreign workers into the countryside? The reality is, a

:01:59. > :02:09.Labour lead counsel in York is going to concrete over a great piece of

:02:09. > :02:14.cheese heritage. -- British heritage. We need to protect the

:02:14. > :02:19.greenbelt and I will be campaigning in that direction. Here is a famous

:02:19. > :02:25.battle site. As far as the agricultural wages, Labour put in a

:02:25. > :02:32.minimum wage which we support. will have to leave it there for this