0:00:02 > 0:00:06Good evening and welcome to a new series of Taro Naw.
0:00:06 > 0:00:10The summer of 1976 and a brother and sister from Pembrokeshire...
0:00:10 > 0:00:12..are filmed at a chapel service.
0:00:12 > 0:00:16Within a few months, they were both buried in the cemetery.
0:00:17 > 0:00:19Police say the brother killed his sister...
0:00:19 > 0:00:22..before setting himself on fire, but some question that.
0:00:23 > 0:00:26You think someone was in the house.
0:00:24 > 0:00:26There must have been.
0:00:27 > 0:00:31Tonight, a special investigation. Who killed Griff and Patty Thomas?
0:00:36 > 0:00:40In May, John Cooper was jailed for life...
0:00:40 > 0:00:44...for two double murders in Pembrokeshire during the '80s.
0:00:44 > 0:00:47But is it possible that Cooper is also responsible...
0:00:47 > 0:00:52..for the deaths of another brother and sister in 1976?
0:00:52 > 0:00:54Here's Aled Scourfield's report.
0:00:59 > 0:01:03The village of Llangolman in the Preseli mountains.
0:01:03 > 0:01:08Here, in rural Pembrokeshire, was Griff and Martha Thomas' home.
0:01:08 > 0:01:10They had both retired.
0:01:10 > 0:01:15The brother was 73-years-old and the sister was 70.
0:01:15 > 0:01:20Unmarried, they had spent their whole lives at Ffynon Samson.
0:01:21 > 0:01:24I was a bit of a favourite with them.
0:01:24 > 0:01:28They gave me presents at Christmas time and sweets.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31I never left there without sweets.
0:01:32 > 0:01:34Huw Absalom farms in Llangolman.
0:01:34 > 0:01:40He was 15 in 1976 and spent a lot of time with Griff and Martha...
0:01:40 > 0:01:43..or Patty as she was known.
0:01:43 > 0:01:47His father was their first cousin and rented land from the Thomases.
0:01:47 > 0:01:51The farmer still treasures some of the gifts he received...
0:01:51 > 0:01:53..from his relatives.
0:01:53 > 0:01:57I had this from Griff and Patty in 1969.
0:01:57 > 0:02:02We always received nice gifts from them at Christmas.
0:02:02 > 0:02:04It shows here...
0:02:05 > 0:02:08..that...
0:02:06 > 0:02:08It came from Ffynon Samson.
0:02:09 > 0:02:11Patty Thomas and her brother...
0:02:11 > 0:02:15..were born at the start of the 20th Century.
0:02:15 > 0:02:19People living in rural areas had to be frugal.
0:02:19 > 0:02:22They looked after their money.
0:02:23 > 0:02:26There was no cheese and jam on the table.
0:02:26 > 0:02:28It was one or the other.
0:02:29 > 0:02:32They lived on vegetables from the garden...
0:02:33 > 0:02:36..and they shopped locally in the village.
0:02:37 > 0:02:39During the mid '70s...
0:02:39 > 0:02:43..Reverend Peter Thomas was a young minister at Rhydwilym Chapel.
0:02:43 > 0:02:47Griff and Patty Thomas were loyal members of the congregation.
0:02:47 > 0:02:53They were genial, kind and supportive people.
0:02:53 > 0:02:56They were very welcoming.
0:02:56 > 0:03:01I had been to Ffynon Samson more than once during that time...
0:03:01 > 0:03:04..and received a very warm welcome.
0:03:05 > 0:03:08And the conversations were always sweet.
0:03:08 > 0:03:11But the sweet turned sour.
0:03:11 > 0:03:16On Tuesday, December 7th, 1976, Griff Thomas left his home...
0:03:16 > 0:03:20..and walked to the village shop in Llangolman.
0:03:23 > 0:03:27That's where he was last seen alive at around 4.00pm.
0:03:35 > 0:03:38On the morning of Saturday, December 11th...
0:03:38 > 0:03:42..Nigel Rossiter, a 22-year-old postman from Narberth...
0:03:43 > 0:03:47..was driving on his round around Llangolman and Maenclochog.
0:03:50 > 0:03:53He had been to Ffynon Samson on the Thursday...
0:03:53 > 0:03:55..and hadn't seen anyone.
0:03:57 > 0:04:01I returned there about 8.30am or 8.20am.
0:04:01 > 0:04:05I picked up what I thought was post to go...
0:04:05 > 0:04:08..and it was post I'd put there on Thursday.
0:04:08 > 0:04:12I noticed this, so I went back to the house.
0:04:12 > 0:04:17He witnessed an atrocious scene as he entered the house.
0:04:17 > 0:04:22Going into the house, I had to go in a good bit of the room...
0:04:23 > 0:04:27..because there was a big chair or something in the way.
0:04:27 > 0:04:31I could see this charred body in a nest of cushions...
0:04:31 > 0:04:36..and a made-out thing, like, as if it was a nest.
0:04:40 > 0:04:42In a state of shock...
0:04:42 > 0:04:48..he left the farmhouse and ran to a nearby house to call the police.
0:04:48 > 0:04:5235 years later, this is the first time Nigel Rossiter...
0:04:53 > 0:04:55..has spoken publicly about his experiences.
0:04:55 > 0:04:59Despite seeing a man's body in the kitchen...
0:04:59 > 0:05:01..he didn't see the second body.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04When he returned with the police...
0:05:04 > 0:05:07..he saw Patti Thomas's body in the parlour.
0:05:07 > 0:05:12She was sitting on the table. She was slumped over on the table.
0:05:12 > 0:05:16The close-knit community was shocked by the terrible news.
0:05:16 > 0:05:22The local minister was amongst the first to be called to the farmhouse.
0:05:22 > 0:05:27I saw Griff from the porch. I didn't go beyond the porch.
0:05:27 > 0:05:31I saw a black, burnt figure.
0:05:31 > 0:05:36I couldn't believe it was Griff.
0:05:36 > 0:05:40Yet, I had to accept...
0:05:40 > 0:05:45..that something dreadful, rapacious and extremely violent...
0:05:45 > 0:05:49..had happened there.
0:05:49 > 0:05:52The news about the deaths...
0:05:52 > 0:05:57..had spread across the area and beyond within a few hours.
0:05:57 > 0:06:00The farmhand came back to the yard.
0:06:01 > 0:06:05He was terrified after hearing what had happened.
0:06:05 > 0:06:10Dad was out on the farm and my mother had gone to Carmarthen.
0:06:10 > 0:06:14My mother had heard of the incident in Carmarthen.
0:06:14 > 0:06:20Detectives were questioning all locals within an hour or two.
0:06:22 > 0:06:24Television cameras were also there.
0:06:24 > 0:06:28The police had launched a big investigation into a double murder.
0:06:28 > 0:06:31Police officers from all over Dyfed-Powys...
0:06:31 > 0:06:33..had been called to Llangolman.
0:06:33 > 0:06:37My work was going from house to house.
0:06:37 > 0:06:41I had a team looking into the family's background...
0:06:41 > 0:06:44..discovering whether someone had seen anything suspicious.
0:06:45 > 0:06:48We collected information from people within that community.
0:06:48 > 0:06:52We visited every house in Clynderwen, Maenclochog...
0:06:52 > 0:06:55..and the surrounding areas for any information.
0:06:55 > 0:06:59Griff and Patti Thomas' deaths were all over the media.
0:06:59 > 0:07:03Reporters from Wales and London visited Llangolman.
0:07:04 > 0:07:07Murders in rural parts of the country were very rare.
0:07:07 > 0:07:11Many locals were concerned a murderer was on the loose.
0:07:11 > 0:07:15People were more apprehensive and careful.
0:07:15 > 0:07:18They would lock doors and use door bolts.
0:07:18 > 0:07:22People were aware of some sort of fear...
0:07:22 > 0:07:25..that existed due to these murders.
0:07:26 > 0:07:31The owner of the local garage in Llangolman has always lived locally.
0:07:31 > 0:07:34Denley Absalom remembers the local opinion...
0:07:34 > 0:07:38..that someone had broken into the Thomases home.
0:07:39 > 0:07:43The house is isolated and as in a very lonely spot.
0:07:43 > 0:07:46You're not in the village itself.
0:07:46 > 0:07:52You're lucky if you see two or three houses within a quarter of a mile.
0:07:52 > 0:07:54It was a lonely spot.
0:07:54 > 0:07:58According to police investigations, the brother and sister died ...
0:07:59 > 0:08:03..sometime during the evening of Tuesday December 7th, 1976.
0:08:03 > 0:08:05How and why remained a mystery.
0:08:05 > 0:08:10Locals believed they kept substantial amounts of money in the house.
0:08:10 > 0:08:15Dad would buy cattle from them and it would always be in cash.
0:08:16 > 0:08:21Dad rented the land and it would always have to be in cash.
0:08:21 > 0:08:25Dad would sometimes find it difficult to get the cash...
0:08:25 > 0:08:28..but they wouldn't accept a cheque.
0:08:28 > 0:08:30The investigation intensified...
0:08:30 > 0:08:33..after the police discovered over £2,600.
0:08:34 > 0:08:38The police started to doubt whether this was a robbery after all.
0:08:38 > 0:08:44There was money left in the house. Miss Thomas' purse was on the bench.
0:08:44 > 0:08:46If someone wanted to steal...
0:08:46 > 0:08:50..the purse is the first thing they'd have taken.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53There was also more money in the house.
0:08:53 > 0:08:56That doesn't mean that nothing else was stolen.
0:08:56 > 0:08:59We couldn't find anything that had disappeared...
0:08:59 > 0:09:04..but the person might have been scared after what happened...
0:09:04 > 0:09:06..and killed them without stealing anything.
0:09:07 > 0:09:11You couldn't close the book and say that's exactly what happened.
0:09:11 > 0:09:14The post-mortem report on Griff Thomas' body...
0:09:14 > 0:09:17..showed he had died due to burns.
0:09:18 > 0:09:24His sister died due to head injury. She'd been struck by a weapon.
0:09:24 > 0:09:27The police examined a fountain next to the house.
0:09:28 > 0:09:31They examined everything within a two-mile radius of the farmhouse...
0:09:31 > 0:09:34..but they never discovered a weapon.
0:09:34 > 0:09:39Don't forget there was a fire. A wooden weapon could have burnt.
0:09:39 > 0:09:45It was part of a big jigsaw in which some small pieces were missing.
0:09:45 > 0:09:48By trawling through old newspapers...
0:09:48 > 0:09:51..we discovered the investigation had changed direction.
0:09:51 > 0:09:54Within a few weeks, the police had solved the msytery.
0:09:55 > 0:09:57A double-murder investigation was launched.
0:09:58 > 0:10:02Griff and Patti Thomas' bodies were discovered in December 1976.
0:10:02 > 0:10:07Three weeks later in the local newspaper, Tivyside...
0:10:07 > 0:10:12..Pat Molloy, the detective leading the investigation, says this...
0:10:12 > 0:10:16"What I am hoping to be able to do is to persuade a coroner's jury..."
0:10:16 > 0:10:18"..that no third party was involved."
0:10:18 > 0:10:22Within a few weeks, the investiagtion's focus had changed.
0:10:22 > 0:10:27Griff Thomas was now being accused of killing his sister.
0:10:28 > 0:10:34Why would Griff Thomas kill a sister he'd lived with for 70 years?
0:10:35 > 0:10:38For some reason, they'd argued.
0:10:38 > 0:10:43Mr Thomas killed Miss Thomas and tried to eradicate all evidence...
0:10:43 > 0:10:47..and his own body by killing himself and starting a fire.
0:10:47 > 0:10:50According to those who knew them best...
0:10:50 > 0:10:55..the brother and sister had lived happily throughout their lives.
0:10:55 > 0:10:57They wouldn't argue.
0:10:59 > 0:11:01Not at all. Never.
0:11:01 > 0:11:05Not in the time that my father and I were there.
0:11:05 > 0:11:08My father had always known them. Never.
0:11:09 > 0:11:13It's fair to say the majority of people we've spoken to...
0:11:13 > 0:11:15..disagree that Griff Thomas...
0:11:15 > 0:11:20..killed his sister in the home they'd shared for 70 years.
0:11:20 > 0:11:24Other locals believe they need to keep an open mind...
0:11:24 > 0:11:28..and Patti Thomas could've been killed by her brother...
0:11:28 > 0:11:30..during a family dispute.
0:11:30 > 0:11:35Pat Molloy and his team questioned over 1,200 people.
0:11:35 > 0:11:39Many believe the investiagtion was ended too soon.
0:11:39 > 0:11:44It had all happened, been cleared and the inquest had been closed...
0:11:44 > 0:11:46..in very little time.
0:11:46 > 0:11:51If this sort of thing had happened in Liverpool or London...
0:11:51 > 0:11:55..the inquiry would have gone on for ages.
0:11:55 > 0:11:58This all passed in little time.
0:11:58 > 0:12:02The police removed 174 items from the house for examination.
0:12:02 > 0:12:07They took over 150 statements. They were satisfied with the evidence.
0:12:07 > 0:12:11The inquest into their deathh was held in Haverfordwest.
0:12:11 > 0:12:17On February 17th, 1977, two months after their deaths...
0:12:17 > 0:12:22..a jury decided that Patti Thomas had died due to manslaughter.
0:12:22 > 0:12:26An open verdict was recorded in the case of her brother, Griff.
0:12:29 > 0:12:32Following the inquest, auctioneer Richard Sykes and his colleagues...
0:12:33 > 0:12:36..cleared the house before putting it for sale.
0:12:36 > 0:12:41He says the state of the house, even after the police had cleaned it...
0:12:41 > 0:12:45..makes him believe the inquest didn't reach the truth.
0:12:45 > 0:12:49It doesn't relate to the circumstances we saw there.
0:12:50 > 0:12:53I don't believe that...
0:12:53 > 0:12:56I think it was more of an acknowledgement...
0:12:56 > 0:12:59..that they failed to find evidence of a third party.
0:12:59 > 0:13:02He raises the question...
0:13:02 > 0:13:07..that someone else could have visited Ffynnon Samson that evening.
0:13:07 > 0:13:11Do you think there was an intruder there?
0:13:11 > 0:13:14I think that's my conclusion, my belief.
0:13:14 > 0:13:17That was just a feeling I had.
0:13:18 > 0:13:21I think it was shared pretty generally among the community.
0:13:21 > 0:13:25Griff Thomas was last seen alive in the village shop...
0:13:26 > 0:13:28..late on Tuesday afternoon, December 7th.
0:13:29 > 0:13:32The man who discovered his body has told Taro Naw...
0:13:32 > 0:13:37..that the police told him the cheese and newspaper the pensioner bought...
0:13:37 > 0:13:41..were still in his coat pocket when his body was discovered.
0:13:42 > 0:13:45The police told me they found them in his pocket.
0:13:45 > 0:13:48He hadn't even taken them out.
0:13:48 > 0:13:52The fact that the Western Mail and cheese were in his pocket...
0:13:53 > 0:13:58The first thing you usually do is put the items on the table or chair.
0:13:59 > 0:14:03You wouldn't attack someone straight away.
0:14:03 > 0:14:09What happened behind these lonely doors on a December evening in 1976?
0:14:10 > 0:14:14The police said nothing had been stolen, but was that accurate?
0:14:14 > 0:14:17Ipswich in Suffolk.
0:14:17 > 0:14:21Five prostitutes were murdered here five years ago.
0:14:21 > 0:14:25Forensic psychologist Dr Clive Sims assisted in profiling the murderer.
0:14:25 > 0:14:29He's looked at the evidence from Llangolman.
0:14:29 > 0:14:32He believes someone went there to steal.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35There was an empty cash box.
0:14:35 > 0:14:38The bureau appears to have been broken in.
0:14:38 > 0:14:41The back door is unlocked.
0:14:41 > 0:14:46And certain aspects of it simply do not make sense.
0:14:47 > 0:14:51No-one can be certain that someone had searched through the bureau...
0:14:52 > 0:14:56..but the police report noted they never discovered the bureau's key.
0:14:57 > 0:15:00John Cooper was imprisoned for life back in May...
0:15:00 > 0:15:04..for two double murders in Pembrokeshire in the '80s.
0:15:04 > 0:15:08A huge collection of keys from houses he'd broken into...
0:15:08 > 0:15:10..were discovered in his home.
0:15:10 > 0:15:14We'll be questioning whether John Cooper has the key to these murders?
0:15:18 > 0:15:18.
0:17:00 > 0:17:02888
0:17:03 > 0:17:06In 1976, a police investigation concluded...
0:17:06 > 0:17:10..that Griff Thomas had killed his sister, Patti...
0:17:10 > 0:17:12..at their home in Llangolman, Pembrokeshire.
0:17:13 > 0:17:15Is that what really happened?
0:17:15 > 0:17:18After murderer John Cooper was jailed in May...
0:17:19 > 0:17:22..for murdering siblings Richard and Helen Thomas in 1985...
0:17:23 > 0:17:26..and Peter and Gwenda Dixon in 1989...
0:17:26 > 0:17:30..there is growing suspicion that Griff Thomas was wrongly accused.
0:17:31 > 0:17:34The police believe Griff killed his sister in the kitchen...
0:17:34 > 0:17:37..and carried her into the parlour.
0:17:37 > 0:17:41The 73-year-old suffered from rheumatism and had a bad back.
0:17:41 > 0:17:45According to many, it's impossible he murdered his sister.
0:17:45 > 0:17:48He could never have destroyed the house.
0:17:48 > 0:17:53I used to sit next to Griff in the chapel.
0:17:53 > 0:17:56He had such bad arthritis in his fingers...
0:17:56 > 0:18:01..that he could never find the right page in the hymn book.
0:18:02 > 0:18:05I would have to find the right page for him.
0:18:06 > 0:18:09In the mid-80s, Crimewatch appealed for information...
0:18:10 > 0:18:14..following the murders of siblings Richard and Helen Thomas...
0:18:14 > 0:18:18..at Scoveston Park in Pembrokeshire in December, 1985.
0:18:19 > 0:18:2525 years later, John Cooper was jailed for life for the muders.
0:18:25 > 0:18:31Dad said at the time he thought the same person had done it...
0:18:32 > 0:18:34..because it was a similar incident.
0:18:34 > 0:18:36Another lonely farmhouse...
0:18:36 > 0:18:40..and another brother and sister who kept money in the house.
0:18:41 > 0:18:43A fire had also been started.
0:18:43 > 0:18:46Is there a connection between Scoveston and Llangolman?
0:18:46 > 0:18:48There are so many similar factors.
0:18:48 > 0:18:52Is that the missing piece in the jigsaw?
0:18:52 > 0:18:56You think it is and then you think it isn't.
0:18:56 > 0:18:59There wasn't a robbery, no gun.
0:18:59 > 0:19:03There was a gun at Scoveston, but there wasn't in Llangolman.
0:19:03 > 0:19:07Why did he use a gun in one place?
0:19:07 > 0:19:11Some factors are very different, yet some bring it all together.
0:19:11 > 0:19:15The police failed to find any forensic evidence...
0:19:15 > 0:19:19..to prove that another person was at Ffynnon Samson...
0:19:19 > 0:19:22..the night Griff and Patti Thomas died.
0:19:23 > 0:19:29We discovered documents that show how John Cooper targeted places to rob.
0:19:29 > 0:19:34He also ensured he didn't leave any traces of a crime.
0:19:34 > 0:19:39We've seen a list of burglaries associated with John Cooper...
0:19:39 > 0:19:41..between 1983 and 1996.
0:19:41 > 0:19:44They all share many common factors.
0:19:44 > 0:19:47He often targeted isolated, rural houses...
0:19:47 > 0:19:50..and there was very little forensic evidence.
0:19:51 > 0:19:55The police collected 430 fingerprints at Ffynnon Samson.
0:19:55 > 0:19:59All apart from two belonged to Griff and Patti Thomas.
0:19:59 > 0:20:02The other two couldn't be proven.
0:20:02 > 0:20:07It could have been Mr Thomas as his hand was injured in the fire.
0:20:08 > 0:20:09It could be someone...
0:20:10 > 0:20:13There was one on the sewing machine.
0:20:13 > 0:20:17That could be someone who'd helped Miss Thomas sew something.
0:20:17 > 0:20:20It could be that simple. We don't know.
0:20:20 > 0:20:24If someone was arrested and that was their fingerprint...
0:20:24 > 0:20:26..I'd accept it was them.
0:20:26 > 0:20:29Based on the evidence at the time...
0:20:29 > 0:20:32..I think the correct conclusion was reached.
0:20:32 > 0:20:35The police believed Griff Thomas burnt to death...
0:20:35 > 0:20:43..but there was a pool of blood next to him and he had a cracked skull.
0:20:43 > 0:20:47Griff Thomas' blood was also found on the sewing machine.
0:20:47 > 0:20:52According to the expert who looked at the case for Taro Naw...
0:20:52 > 0:20:57..there are other significant clues relating to the sewing machine.
0:20:57 > 0:21:01Mr Thomas' blood was found on the sewing machine...
0:21:01 > 0:21:05..and yet the cover was put on the sewing machine.
0:21:05 > 0:21:10This suggests someone else was at the scene of the crime.
0:21:10 > 0:21:15If someone else was there, who was it?
0:21:20 > 0:21:24Is there room to believe there's a connection between John Cooper...
0:21:24 > 0:21:28..the man responsible for murdering Richard and Helen Thomas...
0:21:28 > 0:21:32..and the deaths of Griff and Patti Thomas?
0:21:32 > 0:21:35There are enough similarities between the crimes...
0:21:35 > 0:21:37..which would suggest...
0:21:37 > 0:21:44..that he may be at least considered to be a suspect in this case.
0:21:45 > 0:21:49In 1965, 20-year-old John Cooper was jailed for six months...
0:21:49 > 0:21:53..for trampling over a man on the ground.
0:21:54 > 0:21:57He attacked a police officer the previous year.
0:21:57 > 0:22:02He didn't have a criminal record between 1965 and 1983.
0:22:03 > 0:22:08Cooper was 40 years old at he time of the Scoveston murders in 1985.
0:22:08 > 0:22:11What about the previous years?
0:22:12 > 0:22:15It's quite probable, in fact...
0:22:15 > 0:22:18..that he would have been offending earlier...
0:22:19 > 0:22:22..because it would be extremely unusual...
0:22:22 > 0:22:27..for someone to start that late in life on a criminal career...
0:22:28 > 0:22:33..and that they would start with that level of violence.
0:22:33 > 0:22:38The inquest into Griff and Patti Thomas' deaths at Ffynnon Samson...
0:22:38 > 0:22:41..concluded a dispute lead to their deaths.
0:22:41 > 0:22:46The police also recognised there was a suspicious element to the case.
0:22:46 > 0:22:49There were some missing pieces to the jigsaw.
0:22:49 > 0:22:54Yes, but you never get a complete jigsaw in any investigation.
0:22:54 > 0:22:57There were one or two more missing pieces here.
0:22:57 > 0:23:03I think that was highlighted to the jury at the inquest.
0:23:03 > 0:23:06They were told the evidence was incinsistent.
0:23:07 > 0:23:09Pat Molloy, who lead the investigation...
0:23:10 > 0:23:14..was completely satisfied he had reached the right conclusion.
0:23:14 > 0:23:18Will the police reopen the case following John Cooper's imprisonment?
0:23:18 > 0:23:21Dyfed-Powys Police refused to be interviewed.
0:23:21 > 0:23:26In a statement, they said they're in contact with the family.
0:23:26 > 0:23:30They added that they have assessed various documents...
0:23:30 > 0:23:35..and there currently isn't a clear connection with John Cooper.
0:23:36 > 0:23:39The man who discovered Griff Thomas' burnt body...
0:23:39 > 0:23:43..in his kitchen back in December 1976 has many questions.
0:23:43 > 0:23:46Nigel Rossiter believes the case should be reopened.
0:23:46 > 0:23:51I would say yes, definitely now, because no murder weapon was found.
0:23:51 > 0:23:54I can't see myself or anyboby...
0:23:54 > 0:23:57Your mind must be absolutely a blank...
0:23:57 > 0:24:01..if you think you can burn yourself at 70, 73.
0:24:01 > 0:24:04A youngster wouldn't burn himself and lie in a fire.
0:24:05 > 0:24:08Taro Naw has spoken to many forensic experts...
0:24:08 > 0:24:10..who've said it's highly unusual...
0:24:10 > 0:24:14..for someone to commit suicide by burning themself.
0:24:14 > 0:24:18Clive Sims says he doubts the credibility of the inquest's jury.
0:24:18 > 0:24:20I would think they're unsafe.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24I feel that there would be a substantial case...
0:24:24 > 0:24:28..for looking at this particular crime again as a cold case.
0:24:28 > 0:24:31This is the spot where...
0:24:31 > 0:24:36Griff and Patti Thomas' minister was shocked by their deaths.
0:24:36 > 0:24:37For many in Llangolman...
0:24:38 > 0:24:43..the scars of the past are still very much alive in their memories.
0:24:43 > 0:24:48It was very difficult for me as a new, young minster back then...
0:24:48 > 0:24:52..to undertake the work and officiate the funeral.
0:24:52 > 0:24:57Above everything else...
0:24:57 > 0:25:01..there was a sense of sadness and loss.
0:25:05 > 0:25:06Griff Thomas was buried...
0:25:06 > 0:25:09..with an investigation concluding he'd killed the sister...
0:25:09 > 0:25:12..he'd lived with for 70 years.
0:25:12 > 0:25:16For many who knew him well, that was impossible.
0:25:16 > 0:25:19He was wrongly blamed.
0:25:19 > 0:25:22Everyone who knew them has never believed that.
0:25:23 > 0:25:27He was someone I'd known throughout my life.
0:25:27 > 0:25:30He'd lived a quiet life.
0:25:30 > 0:25:33He could never have done it.
0:25:36 > 0:25:41That's all for tonight. Taro Naw will be back next Monday.
0:25:41 > 0:25:44Thanks for watching, good night.
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