:00:37. > :00:43.Good morning and welcome to the week when Margaret Thatcher re-
:00:43. > :00:46.entered political argument. Sarah Palin, whipping up interest in her
:00:46. > :00:49.possible presidential campaign, says she hopes to see Lady T when
:00:49. > :00:52.stopping by in London. Lady Thatcher's office tells the
:00:52. > :00:56.Guardian that she won't be welcome - that it would belittle her
:00:56. > :00:59.because Palin is nuts. This British story's reverberated round the
:00:59. > :01:02.world and caused both great distress and great merriment in the
:01:02. > :01:09.States and all I can say is, Sarah, if you're coming past, you're
:01:09. > :01:14.welcome on our sofa any time. There's a lot, too, in the papers
:01:14. > :01:18.about Labour's brothers at war. Brothers in the old days used to be
:01:18. > :01:21.slang for trade unions now it means Milibands. They're not with us,
:01:21. > :01:25.sadly, but we do have couple of people with inside track knowledge
:01:25. > :01:28.to guide us through the papers. Ann Treneman is the parliamentary
:01:28. > :01:31.sketch writer for the Times, and Charlie Falconer - Lord Falconer -
:01:31. > :01:33.was a key member of Tony Blair's cabinet. One man who knows about
:01:33. > :01:37.the brutal nature of Labour politics is the former Australian
:01:37. > :01:40.Labour leader and Prime Minister Kevin Rudd. When his colleagues
:01:40. > :01:43.feared he'd lose the next election they swiftly replaced him with his
:01:43. > :01:46.deputy Julia Gillard. But Kevin Rudd is back in the front line, as
:01:46. > :01:51.Australia's Foreign Minister, and he's just arrived in London for the
:01:51. > :01:53.big conference on vaccination that opens tomorrow. We'll be asking him
:01:53. > :01:55.about that, Australia's moves to get their troops out of Afghanistan
:01:55. > :02:00.and much more. The International Development Secretary Andrew
:02:00. > :02:03.Mitchell's also here today. While few will oppose the huge push to
:02:03. > :02:05.save the lives of millions of children with vaccinations some are
:02:05. > :02:08.questioning the scale of British taxpayer's money going to, for
:02:08. > :02:16.instance India, while its government can apparently afford a
:02:16. > :02:19.space programme. We also be talking about Syria. This morning we'll
:02:19. > :02:21.also try and shed light on the great pause. Not a U-turn, you
:02:22. > :02:25.understand, the great pause over the government's health reform
:02:25. > :02:27.plans. With Clare Gerada of the Royal College of GPs and the Tory
:02:28. > :02:30.tipped to take over as Health Secretary if Andrew Lansley goes,
:02:30. > :02:33.Stephen Dorrell. Also, Britain's greatest playwright brought to life
:02:33. > :02:36.by one of our great actors. Simon Callow, famed for his many
:02:36. > :02:39.Hollywood roles, is here to talk about his latest venture, breathing
:02:39. > :02:48.new life into the mysterious figure of the man who was William
:02:48. > :02:50.Shakespeare. First, the news with Good morning. The United States
:02:50. > :02:53.says Syria has created a humanitarian crisis, following
:02:54. > :02:56.weeks of repression of anti- government protestors. More than
:02:57. > :03:01.4000 people have fled across the border to refugee camps in Turkey,
:03:01. > :03:04.and witnesses say more towns have been attacked in the last 24 hours.
:03:04. > :03:11.The White House is calling for Syria to give the Red Cross access
:03:11. > :03:16.to areas where the Syrian armed forces have been deployed. Refugees
:03:16. > :03:20.shelter along Turkey's border with Syria. They carry what they can. A
:03:20. > :03:24.few meagre possessions and their children. And they bring their
:03:24. > :03:30.stories. Vivid descriptions of the escalating violence in their towns
:03:30. > :03:34.and villages. This man has defected from the Syrian army. We were told
:03:34. > :03:44.to fire on protesters, he said, and anyone who refused was shot in the
:03:44. > :03:47.back or neck. This is what they are fleeing from. These unverified
:03:47. > :03:51.pictures appear to show Syrian helicopter gunships firing on their
:03:51. > :03:56.own people and troops on the streets. The government says they
:03:56. > :04:04.are fighting armed terrorist groups. But for many Syrians it is simply
:04:04. > :04:09.time to leave it. Official estimates say that more than 4000
:04:09. > :04:13.people have already entered Turkey. Many more may have crossed the
:04:13. > :04:17.poorest border undetected. The White House has accused the Syrian
:04:17. > :04:21.regime of creating a humanitarian crisis. That was met with
:04:21. > :04:27.scepticism by one activist in Damascus. The international
:04:28. > :04:32.community could and take Syria's decision to contain what is going
:04:33. > :04:37.on on the ground. Its three months now. The thousands of people got
:04:37. > :04:42.killed. It's too late. Reports have emerged of Syrian tanks attacking
:04:42. > :04:47.the border towns. As UN agencies in Turkey prepare for their rival, the
:04:47. > :04:52.fleeing Syrian people are simply hoping to find some respite. At
:04:52. > :04:54.least 34 people have been killed in two bomb attacks in Pakistan. The
:04:54. > :04:57.explosions happened minutes apart in a supermarket in the north
:04:57. > :05:06.western city of Peshawar. Officials say more than 90 other people have
:05:06. > :05:11.been injured. Police say the first explosion in the busy Khyber market
:05:11. > :05:14.in Peshawar had been small. But just as bystanders gathered at the
:05:14. > :05:20.spot and emergency services personnel were a Viking, there was
:05:20. > :05:24.a second, much larger blast. TRANSLATION: I was passing through
:05:24. > :05:27.when the blast occurred. We were on the way to the bizarre. As we were
:05:27. > :05:32.near the square there was suddenly a big blast. When we came back
:05:32. > :05:37.there was no rescue team or officials. I saw eight dead bodies
:05:37. > :05:40.lying under the transformer. Four to five bodies were lying here and
:05:40. > :05:44.at the hotel building. It is just the latest in a series of militant
:05:44. > :05:49.attacks across the country that have targeted both Pakistan
:05:49. > :05:55.security forces and civilians. Many believe Islamist groups are taking
:05:55. > :05:58.revenge for the death of all summer been no to, including the recent
:05:58. > :06:03.upsurge in American drone attacks and the sense that Pakistan may be
:06:03. > :06:11.preparing to carry out a limited offensive at least in a notorious
:06:11. > :06:14.militant stronghold of North Waziristan. Ed Miliband is facing
:06:14. > :06:17.further criticism this morning with some senior Labour figures
:06:17. > :06:21.expressing unhappiness over his leadership of the party. The
:06:22. > :06:26.criticism comes amongst a new paper claims that Ed Miliband is still
:06:26. > :06:29.feuding with his brother, David, and there is tension between him
:06:29. > :06:32.and the shadow chancellor, Ed Balls. The drinks retailer Diageo is to
:06:32. > :06:34.fund a training programme for midwives in England and Wales, on
:06:34. > :06:37.the dangers of drinking alcohol in pregnancy. The British Medical
:06:37. > :06:40.Association has expressed concern about the drinks industry funding
:06:40. > :06:44.such a scheme. The International Monetary Fund says it's
:06:45. > :06:49.investigating a significant attack on its computer network. The IMF
:06:49. > :06:52.holds sensitive economic data about many countries. The cyber-attack
:06:52. > :06:58.has been described as large and sophisticated, and is thought to be
:06:58. > :07:08.connected to an as-yet unidentified government. That's all the news,
:07:08. > :07:08.
:07:08. > :07:16.Now to the front pages. There are lots of stories about Labour being
:07:16. > :07:20.in trouble. That's the Sunday Times. The Sunday Telegraph has a
:07:21. > :07:27.different story. 102 foreign offenders that cannot be deported.
:07:27. > :07:32.And also an interview with Chris Patten, the new boss of the BBC's
:07:32. > :07:37.Trust. Saying we might have to close a channel. The Observer has
:07:37. > :07:43.Chris Huhne on the front page for the right reasons, as the Energy
:07:43. > :07:48.Minister condemning price rises. The Mail on Sunday has got a nice
:07:48. > :07:53.story there. The Queen's cousin has written a memoir with lots of
:07:53. > :08:00.stories and pictures about the Queen. Lily Allen married at the
:08:00. > :08:04.weekend. She has told the assembled throng that she is pregnant. As
:08:04. > :08:12.promised, Ann Treneman and Lord Falconer. Welcome to you both. We
:08:12. > :08:16.will start with the Miliband brothers. It's an onslaught of
:08:16. > :08:20.brothers at war. If I were Ed Miliband, I would love to be in
:08:20. > :08:25.both of their houses this morning watching them reading the papers. I
:08:25. > :08:31.suspect there are different reactions going on. It's just to
:08:31. > :08:35.Brothers at war. I have looked for one person who is for Ed Miliband.
:08:35. > :08:41.In the Independent it says friends of Ed think he's doing well. Who
:08:41. > :08:47.are his friends because there is no other sign of them here? It is
:08:47. > :08:50.pretty thin gruel. The Mail on Sunday reporting to see relies so
:08:50. > :08:55.take extracts from a recent book says, in an attempt to be unkind to
:08:55. > :08:59.Ed, it observed witheringly that he did not drink or take drugs at
:08:59. > :09:02.college, but agonised over which chocolate bars to buy. That is an
:09:02. > :09:06.indication of the extent to which the newspapers are scraping the
:09:06. > :09:10.bottom of the barrel. There is a herd instinct, this is to show what
:09:10. > :09:17.an important person Anne is, she started the whole thing on
:09:17. > :09:22.Wednesday. I'm not to blame for this. We should explain because Ed
:09:22. > :09:28.Miliband, you said, had a dreadful time at Prime Minister's Questions.
:09:28. > :09:32.He was appalling. After that, everybody has been piling into him
:09:32. > :09:37.all week. So you are responsible for it all. If you look at the
:09:37. > :09:41.newspapers, for example, the reference no news item to big
:09:41. > :09:45.beasts mauling Ed Miliband. The three of us looked before had to
:09:45. > :09:49.see what was said on the clothes don't quite back that up. The Mail
:09:49. > :09:54.on Sunday is expecting the fact that he didn't drink and take drugs,
:09:54. > :09:58.which has not normally regarded as a matter of complaint. Don't forget
:09:58. > :10:03.chocolate! You are a big beast, if I can put it that way, Lord
:10:03. > :10:07.Falconer, but he has had a pretty difficult time. The Labour Party
:10:07. > :10:14.does not appear to be cutting through very much, the opinion
:10:14. > :10:17.polls are not great and there are genuine and goblins. -- ramblings.
:10:17. > :10:21.He's having the sort of difficulty that you always have when you have
:10:21. > :10:26.a new government. He became leader immediately after we lost an
:10:26. > :10:36.election. There is a new government that the -- that the media is
:10:36. > :10:41.interested in. There's the other thing which is that David and Co
:10:41. > :10:45.are having a relatively hard time. David Cameron. There's only one
:10:45. > :10:50.Dave in my life. They are having quite a hard time. There is a U-
:10:50. > :10:54.turn here, explosions going around. It just doesn't seem to be that Ed
:10:54. > :10:58.can break through that. In a way, because the press, quite rightly,
:10:58. > :11:02.are interested in what the government are doing in a self
:11:02. > :11:06.contained way, the opposition only become interesting when there are
:11:06. > :11:10.these sorts of rows that are described in the press. It's very
:11:10. > :11:13.interesting that the papers of two bits today. There are lots of
:11:13. > :11:17.disasters striking government - the health service, letting out rapists
:11:17. > :11:21.and all that sort of thing. It's hardly mentioned because it's all
:11:21. > :11:29.about the Milibands. A columnist wrote a good piece this week in
:11:29. > :11:33.which was said during their William Hague and ideas of years, so many
:11:33. > :11:36.senior Conservatives had just disappeared and left them looking
:11:36. > :11:39.rather forlorn. The same was happening now with Ed Miliband.
:11:39. > :11:43.That a lot of people who were at the top of the Labour Party have
:11:43. > :11:47.gone off to do other things. There needs to be a balance struck
:11:47. > :11:51.between the generation whose time has passed going off, that's people
:11:51. > :11:56.like Tony, Gordon and Alastair. And the good, younger people taking
:11:56. > :12:00.over. The leadership of the Labour Party at the moment is Ed Miliband,
:12:00. > :12:03.Ed Balls, Douglas Alexander and others. They are very talented.
:12:03. > :12:08.People like Tessa Jowell or also bear, so there are people with
:12:08. > :12:15.experience. But when you look down and see Ed on the front bench, it
:12:15. > :12:22.does look like he's been abandoned. Anne is a brilliant sketch writer.
:12:23. > :12:29.I can hear a but. But to judge how the Labour Party is doing on the
:12:29. > :12:34.basis of the bald pates on the backs of their heads on the front
:12:34. > :12:37.pages -- frontbenchers isn't a good way to do it. Do you think Ed Balls
:12:37. > :12:45.is plotting, because he's had an awful lot of stick this week as
:12:45. > :12:49.well... No, I do not think he is plotting. The Observer says that Mr
:12:49. > :12:52.Miliband should take a lesson from the Archbishop of Canterbury. I
:12:52. > :12:56.have this wonderful vision of the Archbishop of Canterbury at the
:12:57. > :13:00.dispatch box at PMQs. I think that would be great. The Archbishop of
:13:00. > :13:10.Canterbury is a very wise man, but I don't think he would see himself
:13:10. > :13:11.
:13:11. > :13:18.as a politician. That's enough Milibands. What have you picked up?
:13:18. > :13:23.The news of the World says make NHS slick, not sick. It refers to a
:13:23. > :13:27.pause on the NHS staff, but it also says, we reveal today that waiting
:13:27. > :13:31.lists for cancer checks have more than trebled in the past year. How
:13:31. > :13:36.is it that the government is allowing the National Health
:13:36. > :13:42.Service to decline so dramatically? All of the newspapers are writing
:13:42. > :13:47.about Ed versus David. And I don't mean David Cameron. I mean David
:13:47. > :13:50.Miliband. Because they obviously loved the brothers at war. The
:13:50. > :13:56.pause is quite confusing because no one has seen any pause, people have
:13:56. > :14:00.been running round like mad. I think we all just want to find
:14:00. > :14:05.out... Will be talking about this more in the programme, but it is
:14:05. > :14:08.difficult if you are demolishing a structure to stop halfway through.
:14:08. > :14:11.All the indications on the ground of that the structure that the
:14:12. > :14:14.legislation is allowing to take place is already being introduced.
:14:14. > :14:19.People are saying GPs are coming together in these commissioning
:14:19. > :14:22.groups, irrespective of the fact that a 300 page bill is not getting
:14:22. > :14:26.through Parliament and the Prime Minister is promoting the bill and
:14:26. > :14:30.is looking at it again. I think the problem is nobody understands the
:14:30. > :14:35.changes. Is there a U-turn? Who knows, because we don't know where
:14:35. > :14:41.we started from. What we read in the Telegraph is that Nick Clegg is
:14:41. > :14:49.kind of claiming victory for this. I think he quotes Nick Clegg as
:14:49. > :14:52.saying, we have one. It looks like political positioning to me rather
:14:52. > :15:02.than a defined and the standing of what's going on in the health
:15:02. > :15:06.
:15:06. > :15:11.service reforms. Next from you. I've got a... This is a sad tale.
:15:12. > :15:16.This is Brian the snail. He's been sacked. You know the man who takes
:15:16. > :15:20.forever to finish every marathon. I think he just finished the last one
:15:20. > :15:26.the other day. He's not raising enough money. He says the time has
:15:26. > :15:31.gone. He's raised 5 million in the past and now it's not there anymore.
:15:31. > :15:40.This male thing is taking longer. He's taking more money doing it and
:15:41. > :15:48.he's raising. He does admit defeat Not a lot about Lords reforms in
:15:48. > :15:52.the papers. And here, another disgraced Lord, �14,000.
:15:52. > :15:58.government has introduced a truly awful bill for Lords reform which
:15:58. > :16:04.doesn't deal with the relationship between the Commons and the Lords.
:16:04. > :16:10.By making it elected, you can only have gridlock with the Commons. I,
:16:10. > :16:16.like most people, strongly oppose the proposals but I do think some
:16:16. > :16:24.less ambitious reforms can go through, like ejecting Lords who
:16:24. > :16:29.commit criminals -- crimes. This government has produced 117 New
:16:29. > :16:35.Lords. Allowed to sit in the gallery rather than the Lords.
:16:35. > :16:40.poured cut -- your party talked a lot about Lords reform. Do you
:16:40. > :16:45.think this big reform will happen finally? I do not. The right thing
:16:45. > :16:48.is to oppose it, it is not well thought-out but focusing on issues
:16:48. > :16:58.which the public is not interested in. They want the government to
:16:58. > :17:00.
:17:00. > :17:07.deal with economy, crime, education. It will bleed energy out of the
:17:07. > :17:11.political system at a time when you really need good leadership.
:17:11. > :17:17.think you would say some of that anyway. I just think all of the
:17:17. > :17:27.papers have a picture of the Duchess of Cambridge on the front.
:17:27. > :17:36.And, I feel, I feel I have a lifetime of pictures of her looking
:17:37. > :17:44.lovely. And a picture here of a secret trip to Boots. And a picture
:17:44. > :17:50.of Prince William. And a little beaver! Saying the Prince has the
:17:50. > :17:55.same expression! Not getting the best press at the moment. The and
:17:55. > :17:59.your story? The biggest story is what is going on in that Syria. A
:17:59. > :18:09.town in the north with 40,000 people is now, according to most
:18:09. > :18:12.
:18:12. > :18:17.reports, surrounded and completely surrounded by security forces.
:18:17. > :18:22.Since Friday, the reports coming out of that town is that the Syrian
:18:22. > :18:26.army is pounding innocent people. Refugees are fleeing to the Turkish
:18:26. > :18:32.border. One of the good things this government has done is it has
:18:32. > :18:36.pursued an effective policy under Andrew Mitchell in relation to
:18:36. > :18:41.international development. I will be interested to hear what he says
:18:41. > :18:46.later. He has proved himself a leader in the world of
:18:46. > :18:52.international relations. This Syrian problem is a real tragedy in
:18:52. > :18:55.the process of happening. Everyone has been saying we should not be
:18:55. > :19:01.intervening in Libya, but when you do not intervene, this kind of
:19:01. > :19:07.thing happens. Well, yes, it is impossible not to ask the question.
:19:07. > :19:12.We are very involved with Libya. This terrible thing, this attack on
:19:12. > :19:22.the people of Syria. At the moment, we're just reading about it in the
:19:22. > :19:23.
:19:23. > :19:29.newspapers. The reason with Libya, the world turned against Gaddafi.
:19:30. > :19:32.And it is turning against Assad. If the world is not clear it in its
:19:32. > :19:37.message that he must go, he will feel able to do these appalling
:19:37. > :19:43.things. That is our review of the day when there has been such a lot
:19:43. > :19:49.about the Miliband brothers. scenario in which Ed Miliband steps
:19:49. > :19:54.down? Tomorrow's speech is critical. A big speech. In opposition, your
:19:55. > :19:58.next speech is the most critical one. I am sure he will be the
:19:58. > :20:04.Leader of the Opposition when the next election comes, the sooner,
:20:04. > :20:10.the better. And the talk continues, too good a story for the newspapers
:20:10. > :20:17.to walk away. The newspapers have such fun, such fun about Tony Blair
:20:17. > :20:23.and Gordon Brown. That was nostalgia. Ann looks back to a
:20:23. > :20:28.golden past. These brothers make an exciting story. But, Ed's will make
:20:28. > :20:37.a breakthrough, he will draw people's attention it to education,
:20:37. > :20:41.One of the weirdest weeks of weather just passed. Baking hot and
:20:41. > :20:44.desert dry in parts of the south, and snow falling in Wales. Then,
:20:44. > :20:47.what we used to call in our family, "thunderplumps", big dumps of
:20:47. > :20:57.sudden rain. For the picture throughout Britain for the rest of
:20:57. > :21:01.The mixed weather continues for the week ahead thanks to low pressure.
:21:02. > :21:09.The first arrives today which means for England, Wales and Northern
:21:09. > :21:16.Ireland, a wet and breezy day. A band of sometimes heavy rain will
:21:16. > :21:20.run north and east, the winds picking up. The rain, not great
:21:20. > :21:26.news for the tennis at Queen's Club, the rain it setting in there. Sunny
:21:26. > :21:31.spells and showers into Scotland. Overnight, this band of rain will
:21:31. > :21:37.push north across the UK. The heaviest towards the end of the
:21:37. > :21:43.night. For the rest of us, damp and drizzly by dawn. But a mild night,
:21:43. > :21:48.into double figures. Monday, not a particularly nice start, a few
:21:48. > :21:54.bursts of rain, wet and windy in northern Scotland. For the rest of
:21:54. > :22:00.us, the skies will brighten, decent spells of sunshine, a little bit
:22:00. > :22:06.water -- warmer. Dry and find on Tuesday. Low pressure brings
:22:06. > :22:09.further showers in the middle of The Australian Labour Party swept
:22:09. > :22:13.to power in 2007 after many years in opposition. Kevin Rudd, the
:22:13. > :22:16.charismatic young leader, delivered electoral victory. But, within a
:22:16. > :22:20.couple of years, his popularity began declining. Colleagues in the
:22:20. > :22:24.party started muttering, and he was swiftly deposed and replaced by his
:22:24. > :22:27.deputy. Rather more swift and brutal than the coup attempts in
:22:27. > :22:30.the Labor Party around the same time. But, unlike Tony Blair or
:22:30. > :22:33.Gordon Brown, Kevin Rudd remains at the top of the tree. He's
:22:33. > :22:41.Australia's Foreign Minister, and he's just arrived in London. Good
:22:41. > :22:49.morning. You are here for this huge
:22:49. > :22:52.conference on vaccination. People realise this is a massive issue,
:22:53. > :23:00.literally millions, possibly tens of millions of us are hanging in
:23:00. > :23:04.the balance. This is fundamentally important. If you are concerned
:23:04. > :23:08.about aid effectiveness, it is one of the most effective things you
:23:08. > :23:13.can do worldwide. This global alliance on vaccinations and
:23:13. > :23:20.immunisations, over the last decade, millions of kids around the world
:23:20. > :23:24.had been immunised, 5 million kids's buyers have been saved.
:23:24. > :23:30.Extraordinary work, it makes him until difference. That's why we are
:23:30. > :23:38.behind it 100%. Let us talk about the world as it seems from
:23:38. > :23:43.Australia's viewpoint. It is round. You have got troops, 1,500, in
:23:43. > :23:50.Afghanistan, where you have been taking bosses in proportion as well.
:23:50. > :23:57.There seems to be a mood, not a mutinous mood, but a weary wooed --
:23:57. > :24:00.mood. Australia has been in Afghanistan since 2001. But we have
:24:00. > :24:07.been resolute throughout, with support from both sides of
:24:07. > :24:13.Australian politics. In the last five years, we have been waged
:24:13. > :24:18.between Holman's and Kandahar. A fairly violent part of the world.
:24:18. > :24:23.The poorest province in Afghanistan. But we intend to be resolute and
:24:23. > :24:28.remain there until our mission is discharged. We are mindful what
:24:28. > :24:34.Hamid Karzai said about transition, and Afghan led security. We intend
:24:34. > :24:40.to complete our mission. Are you very worried about the governance
:24:40. > :24:47.issues in Kabul. There have been terrible stories of corruption
:24:47. > :24:52.there, haven't they? Failure to extend a authority. Let me give you
:24:52. > :24:56.an example about the province we have responsibility end. The
:24:56. > :25:02.country's poorest province. If you are going to give an insight into
:25:02. > :25:09.how the country as a whole is going, I can give you generalities, but
:25:09. > :25:13.specifics on this province. I have visited it four or five times, in
:25:13. > :25:19.transition. In terms of the security hold of our the province,
:25:19. > :25:24.it is quite extensive. The provincial governor is running out
:25:24. > :25:29.an effective programme, with probity standards which are highly
:25:29. > :25:34.reasonable by Afghanistan standards. We have roads under construction,
:25:34. > :25:39.markets emerging, schools cropping up, I opened a mosque there the
:25:39. > :25:43.other day. And I have got to say, in terms of overall delivery of
:25:43. > :25:50.basic services, girls going to school, we are seeing a radical
:25:50. > :25:55.transformation. On a Richter scale of 1-10, we began at one. 10 is a
:25:55. > :25:59.fully functioning Westminster democracy. We are somewhere near
:25:59. > :26:04.five. But let me tell you we are making progress. If the trouble is,
:26:04. > :26:09.when the troops come out, it is a letter had the Taliban will come
:26:09. > :26:15.back, then all those girls at school had a bleak future. Let me
:26:15. > :26:21.give you a provincial example, we have this was pretty good training
:26:21. > :26:26.battalions in the Afghan national army. We have 1,500 troops there.
:26:26. > :26:32.We are well advanced in training that battalion. With the Afghan
:26:32. > :26:35.national police. It is not perfect but they are becoming highly
:26:35. > :26:39.competent security forces. We are not in the business of creating a
:26:39. > :26:44.fully functioning Westminster democracy, we are not deluded. In
:26:44. > :26:48.terms of what is described as Afghanistan good enough, we are
:26:48. > :26:56.headed in that direction against most of the measures. Let me ask
:26:56. > :27:01.about China, your local superpower. Globally heading in that direction
:27:01. > :27:06.as well. They have a revamped aircraft carrier which has alarmed
:27:06. > :27:11.some people in the region. An interesting kid when the global
:27:11. > :27:15.economy is ropey. Do you think the Chinese are extending their
:27:16. > :27:22.military muscle around the Pacific and China Seas? I first went to
:27:22. > :27:29.work in China in 1984. You are a fluent Chinese Speaker and expert.
:27:29. > :27:34.Most Chinese experts are surprised by what they see in China. The
:27:34. > :27:38.radical transformations, the world is largely familiar with, communism
:27:38. > :27:42.becoming a market economy. The radical transformation of the
:27:42. > :27:46.Chinese economy in terms of its global size. What we need to
:27:46. > :27:53.prepare ourselves for is for this to accelerate again. The Chinese
:27:53. > :28:01.are the most recent -- have most recently agreed on a growth model
:28:01. > :28:07.taking it in terms of services industry based, relies on renewable
:28:07. > :28:14.energy, which will create a new engine of growth. 96 cities in
:28:14. > :28:19.China have populations in excess of 5 million. Ageing populations in
:28:19. > :28:26.excess of 10 million. Skyscrapers going up. Let us say China within
:28:26. > :28:29.the next decade is likely to emerge as the world's largest economy. Its
:28:29. > :28:37.foreign policy will increase which creates challenges and
:28:37. > :28:43.opportunities. In the autumn, we have the Commonwealth heads of
:28:44. > :28:49.government summit. An emotional visit by the Queen. She is always
:28:49. > :28:59.very welcome in Australia. And very well liked. What is the mood about
:28:59. > :28:59.
:28:59. > :29:04.republicanism? These things come and go. The Australian Labour Party
:29:04. > :29:07.is committed to turning the country into a republic. We have not
:29:07. > :29:13.stipulated a timeline. We are sensitive to the other priorities
:29:13. > :29:18.as a nation. But, in time, the country will head in that direction.
:29:18. > :29:24.There is a deep affection in Australia for the Queen. The Queen
:29:25. > :29:30.has been the Queen of us since I was born, she is part of the
:29:30. > :29:38.firmament of Australia's national life. But the country is evolving.
:29:38. > :29:43.Do you think perhaps Prince Charles will not be king of Australia?
:29:43. > :29:48.is an -- it entirely a matter for when we have a referendum. Our
:29:48. > :29:54.priority is now are the global economy, developments in Europe,
:29:55. > :30:03.making sure we are dealing with the rise of China. This falls somewhat
:30:03. > :30:07.David Cameron hasn't abandoned his controversial health reforms, he's
:30:07. > :30:11.put them on hold while he listens to his critics and decides how best
:30:11. > :30:16.to modify them. So this is either an example of a grown-up government
:30:16. > :30:19.willing to listen, or it's a humiliating U-turn. Whatever your
:30:19. > :30:23.verdict, it's certainly been a serious rethink. The outcome should
:30:23. > :30:31.be known tomorrow. I'm joined by Stephen Dorrell, often tipped to
:30:31. > :30:34.take over it Andrew Lansley goes, and by Dr Clare Gerada or. From
:30:34. > :30:42.what we know now, and we have heard David Cameron at least give the
:30:42. > :30:46.outlines of where the government is going, would you accept phrases
:30:46. > :30:50.like the U-turn our fair enough? What he's done is the calibrate the
:30:50. > :30:54.discussion, so that we are now focused on what it is we are trying
:30:54. > :30:57.to do for patients and the delivery of health care, and less on
:30:58. > :31:02.bureaucratic structures. They Frankley mean very little to
:31:02. > :31:05.patients. What we need to see is a more integrated health service that
:31:05. > :31:09.breaks down some of the fragmentation that received too
:31:09. > :31:13.often, in particular have found care of the elderly, and welds it
:31:13. > :31:20.together into a service that they able to deliver quality and
:31:20. > :31:24.efficiency. What originally word the GPs' worries about this reform?
:31:24. > :31:28.We wrote to the Prime Minister with our nine major concerns, which I'm
:31:28. > :31:30.not going to repeat. But the main one is around restoring the
:31:30. > :31:35.Secretary of State's duty to provide a comprehensive health
:31:35. > :31:40.service, and also the systems that underpin that - the systems around
:31:40. > :31:43.planning and resource allocation. The third one was the area of
:31:43. > :31:47.competition and the role of Monitor. What we didn't want is an NHS that
:31:47. > :31:51.driven by competition. Competition has a part to play but the culture
:31:51. > :31:55.should be around integration, co- operation and collaboration, which
:31:55. > :32:01.it has been for the last 60 odd years. Those were our major
:32:01. > :32:07.concerns. If the rethink involves putting back the Secretary of
:32:07. > :32:12.State's statutory responsibility for health care, and if there's a
:32:12. > :32:17.much slower it moved to GP commissioning, and it, above all,
:32:17. > :32:21.Monitor, this organisation at the top, isn't there primarily to push
:32:21. > :32:26.commercial companies into the NHS, then your organisation is going to
:32:26. > :32:31.be happy? Of course, this has to work for patients. We need to see
:32:31. > :32:34.what is going to be in the rewrite. What we would rather see his
:32:34. > :32:39.competition not driving in any shape or form our health service.
:32:39. > :32:43.We've got to see collaboration, co- operation and integration. For too
:32:43. > :32:48.long it's been about competition. Competition has a place but it also
:32:48. > :32:51.has unintended consequences. It fragments services, you end up with
:32:51. > :32:55.patients having chronic conditions with services that take a long time
:32:55. > :32:59.to knit together. We don't want to unpick that and make things worse
:33:00. > :33:03.for patients. Given where we are now, these changes have started to
:33:03. > :33:08.happen, do you think it's better to press ahead with a reformed Bill
:33:08. > :33:13.rather than ditch the thing? think it's better to start taking
:33:13. > :33:16.stock. The NHS has been through so many reforms. I think the NHS staff
:33:16. > :33:20.need to be congratulated for the care that they do and we need to
:33:20. > :33:23.start restoring morale and start making things better for patients,
:33:23. > :33:27.through working together across health, social care, primary and
:33:27. > :33:31.secondary care. Whether we have a rewrite of the Bill or no bill at
:33:31. > :33:35.all, I leave that to the politicians. In the papers again
:33:35. > :33:41.today, Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, is declaring victory on
:33:41. > :33:44.behalf of the Lib Dems. The more the Lib Dems say we have achieved a
:33:44. > :33:48.major U-turn and change the Government's policy, which they
:33:48. > :33:53.feel they have to save for their own supporters, the angrier and
:33:53. > :33:57.more irritated the Conservative MPs get. If you approach this issue as
:33:57. > :34:01.a political rebalancing, frankly, you'll never get to the end of it.
:34:01. > :34:05.What we need to do is focus on the policy rather than the politics.
:34:05. > :34:09.And deliver a more integrated service that meets the needs of
:34:09. > :34:14.patients. One of the things that Clare said that I'd like to pick up
:34:14. > :34:17.his this implication that somehow there's a choice to be made between
:34:17. > :34:23.competition on the one hand and integration on the other. I don't
:34:23. > :34:26.think that's true. I think part of the issue for those who hold
:34:26. > :34:30.budgets in the health service looking forward is to look at
:34:30. > :34:33.alternative ways of delivering care that address some of the
:34:33. > :34:37.fragmentation which is part of the history of the health service that
:34:37. > :34:42.needs to be improved upon. When you ask the Prime Minister in the House
:34:42. > :34:46.of Commons about this, he was making pretty clear there were big
:34:46. > :34:51.changes in what's coming. That's what you are expecting tomorrow.
:34:51. > :34:59.What I'm expecting his baby focus on the objectives of trite -- what
:34:59. > :35:05.we are trying to do for patients. What matters is a service that
:35:05. > :35:09.knits together the different areas - health care, community care,
:35:09. > :35:15.hospital service, social care - all of which are trying to meet the
:35:15. > :35:20.needs of individual patients. lot of people had been worried that
:35:20. > :35:23.Monitor is driving change in the NHS and was being told, above all,
:35:23. > :35:27.to bring in competition. Your job is to get private companies into
:35:27. > :35:34.the NHS. Get some of these US and British help their companies inside
:35:34. > :35:40.the NHS. That was what was worrying people most. If Monitor's role was
:35:40. > :35:44.to change into integrating service, that would be a big change which
:35:44. > :35:53.could be better for the health service? It's a change in the
:35:53. > :35:57.rhetoric. But there's an implication here that that -- there
:35:57. > :36:00.is a public-private partnership. It was Nye Bevan who set up the health
:36:00. > :36:06.service as a public-private partnership. The question is how
:36:06. > :36:09.you deliver the objectives better for patients. Absolutely. It is
:36:09. > :36:13.very confusion because competition means bringing in other providers,
:36:13. > :36:19.and many of those other providers won't be from the not-for-profit,
:36:19. > :36:24.voluntary sector or the NHS existing services. That's not
:36:24. > :36:31.necessarily true. We'd like to see the resources for the NHS that
:36:31. > :36:36.remain in the NHS and don't go into third party pockets. Don't you
:36:36. > :36:39.think there are very efficient, effective private sector providers.
:36:39. > :36:45.They make a profit but they can still provide a better service than
:36:45. > :36:49.somebody can at the moment -- could be a good thing? Competition has a
:36:49. > :36:53.place. But there's very little evidence that external providers
:36:53. > :36:57.can provide a better service. They are also unstable. We've seen this
:36:57. > :37:01.with Southern Cross, you don't know how long they are going to last.
:37:01. > :37:05.The end up with services on five to seven-year contract, which means
:37:05. > :37:11.patients don't tend to have five to seven-year diseases, they have long
:37:11. > :37:17.term. In the original bill there was a very strong suggestion that
:37:17. > :37:21.some current parts of the NHS might just go bust if they fail to
:37:21. > :37:27.provide the services. That again worried people. In what we see
:37:28. > :37:32.tomorrow, are you expecting that to disappear? That was actually in the
:37:32. > :37:36.structures that were set up during the later years around Foundation
:37:37. > :37:42.Trusts. That these are independent institutions. The question is what
:37:42. > :37:47.happens to them when they get into financial difficulty? This is the
:37:47. > :37:50.implication that this is No. Howl something new. Within the health
:37:50. > :37:55.service, throughout its history, of course it's a change an institution.
:37:55. > :37:59.When institutions no longer meet a current requirement, you have to
:37:59. > :38:05.change them. Do you think the legislation will go through this
:38:05. > :38:10.summer? I do. So we will get a bill and the reforms back on track?
:38:10. > :38:13.Andrew Lansley will remain Health Secretary? Andrew Lansley will
:38:13. > :38:16.remain Health Secretary. The Prime Minister has made that clear and he
:38:16. > :38:20.has also made clear from the beginning of the process that no
:38:20. > :38:24.change can never be an option for the NHS. And particularly not at a
:38:24. > :38:29.time when the key challenge it faces come at a time when resources
:38:29. > :38:34.are less generously endowed than they were in the last decade, is to
:38:34. > :38:38.meet the needs of patients who use resources more efficiently. When
:38:38. > :38:42.the Liberal Democrats at their conference, look how well we've
:38:42. > :38:46.done, and your colleagues of grinding their molars, what would
:38:46. > :38:53.you be saving? Just take it on the chin and move on? Look at the
:38:54. > :38:58.policy, not at the politics. Simon Callow is one of our most
:38:58. > :39:03.celebrated character actors. He stole the show in Four Weddings and
:39:03. > :39:07.a Funeral. He's also appeared in period dramas such as A Room With A
:39:07. > :39:11.View, the wonderful E M Forster novel which became a film. And he
:39:11. > :39:15.brought Charles Dickens to staging a one-man show which got fantastic
:39:15. > :39:19.reviews and coverage. He's working still on a biography of Charles
:39:19. > :39:23.Dickens. His latest project gives him a chance to take on an array of
:39:23. > :39:27.Shakespearean roles, all in one evening. This is a one-man play
:39:27. > :39:36.called Being Shakespeare, which explores the dramatist's life and
:39:36. > :39:44.work. It opens this week in London. Let's talk about the Shakespeare
:39:44. > :39:49.performance, which draws heavily on a rather wonderful book. Jonathan
:39:50. > :39:52.Bates, the genius of Shakespeare. It was inspiring to me because it
:39:53. > :39:56.showed us how William Shakespeare was educated. That is something
:39:56. > :39:59.that no one ever thinks about. They think of him as this boy from
:39:59. > :40:06.Stratford who probably had no education and picked it all up as
:40:06. > :40:10.he went along, but he was a grammar school boy. Grammar-school boys had
:40:10. > :40:14.an education that would make a PhD student Bourke to date. He knew how
:40:14. > :40:18.to use language. That's all he learned. He didn't learn anything
:40:18. > :40:22.about history or geography, just language. Although people say we
:40:22. > :40:26.know almost nothing about Shakespeare's life, that is not
:40:26. > :40:29.exactly true. We know all the important things. We know where he
:40:29. > :40:34.was born, where he died, when he got married, how many children he
:40:34. > :40:39.had, when they died, his career. How he went to London and the plays
:40:39. > :40:41.he wrote. What we don't know is all the intimate, in their stuff that
:40:41. > :40:46.we long to know. What he thought about things, what people thought
:40:46. > :40:50.about him. In this performance, do you pick up things... There has
:40:50. > :40:55.been a lot of talk about Hamlet and his own son dying, there are hints
:40:55. > :40:58.and echoes in the play of that interior life. Absolutely. We use
:40:58. > :41:03.the seven Ages of man as the structure, which is the story of
:41:03. > :41:07.all of us. We ask what it was like to be members -- to the Elizabethan
:41:07. > :41:11.child, schoolboy, lover, soldier and so one. By putting together
:41:11. > :41:17.what we know about what it was to be an Elizabethan of William
:41:17. > :41:21.Shakespeare's kind, a boy from the country, and what we know about him
:41:21. > :41:25.and then what we find in the plays, it's possible to give a sense of
:41:25. > :41:28.what it was like to be William Shakespeare. From what you are
:41:28. > :41:32.saying, I can detect you have no truck with all of those people who
:41:32. > :41:36.say William Shakespeare, the historical William Shakespeare, was
:41:36. > :41:39.far too ignorant to have written these plays, it must have been
:41:40. > :41:43.bacon or somebody else. It's hard to know why his principal rival,
:41:43. > :41:47.Ben Johnson, would have written the preface to his collected works and
:41:47. > :41:52.said, these plays were written by the man who we've shown a picture
:41:52. > :41:56.of, who is William Shakespeare from Stratford on Avon. Why would he
:41:56. > :42:00.like? Why would Ben Johnson lie about that? Why would Shakespeare's
:42:00. > :42:05.colleagues like? Shakespeare was not written by Shakespeare but by
:42:05. > :42:11.another man of the same name. Exactly. This is a performance
:42:11. > :42:16.which follows the dickens performance. Yes. You are writing a
:42:16. > :42:20.biography of Charles Dickens as well. A short biography. It's much
:42:20. > :42:24.harder to write a short biography than a long one, but in the case of
:42:24. > :42:30.Charles Dickens, about whom we know everything. 12 volumes of his
:42:30. > :42:33.letters have now been produced. 1000 pages each. We know almost
:42:33. > :42:37.everything but still come up with him there is a mystery. There has
:42:37. > :42:41.to be with every writer. That's part of what we are trying to do
:42:41. > :42:46.with William Shakespeare, is to probe the mystery. You've done
:42:46. > :42:52.Shakespearean roles yourself. It's an obvious question, but presumably
:42:52. > :42:55.you'd like to do King Lear at some point. I long to do it. What I want
:42:55. > :43:01.to do over the next 10 years of my life, to play the parts that are in
:43:01. > :43:05.my range now. King Lear, Shylock, Titus and vomitous. The point is
:43:05. > :43:08.the older you get, the more you understand what he wrote. Its
:43:08. > :43:12.famously true that if you are Juliet, it is impossible to
:43:12. > :43:16.understand what Shakespeare wrote about Juliet because the he was 35
:43:16. > :43:19.or what ever when he wrote it and understood more about what it is to
:43:19. > :43:23.be young than a young person can know. I'd like to ask you about
:43:23. > :43:28.something which has been hugely dominating the papers in the last
:43:28. > :43:33.couple of weeks - care homes. And the way old people... You put
:43:33. > :43:38.your mother into a carehome. Yes. just wonder how you react to this
:43:38. > :43:43.sense that as a country we are not putting enough money and thought in.
:43:44. > :43:48.We've got some of these great big carehome countries -- companies in
:43:48. > :43:51.terrible financial difficulty. a very grave situation. I'm lucky,
:43:51. > :43:57.I found a very good home for my mother, but it's not cheap at all.
:43:57. > :44:01.I pay quite a lot towards that. have to downsize. I did. Basically,
:44:01. > :44:07.I sold my house in order to make sure I'd have enough money. My
:44:07. > :44:10.mother is 92 now, but she shows absolutely no sign of what ever of
:44:10. > :44:14.wanting not to be alive any more. So she could easily live for
:44:14. > :44:18.another 10 years, which means I could easily still be supporting
:44:18. > :44:23.her when I'm 75, which is quite a serious thought. This is something
:44:23. > :44:28.which may happen to you at 75, but also, we will all end up, we may,
:44:28. > :44:33.if we are lucky, all end up in care homes. It doesn't dominate
:44:33. > :44:38.political debate as perhaps it ought to. It's such a hard thing to
:44:38. > :44:41.take on board. The more medicine advances, the longer people live.
:44:41. > :44:48.That's something we haven't really probably taken on board. Its
:44:48. > :44:54.massive. The idea of someone living-92 in my family circles
:44:54. > :45:03.would have been incomprehensible. Of all the iconic film roles that
:45:03. > :45:09.we could talk about, A Room With A View, perhaps because of some wild
:45:09. > :45:14.early scenes that are stuck in people's memory, frolicking... Was
:45:14. > :45:18.that a particular favourite of yours? It was wonderful. It was my
:45:18. > :45:23.second film ever. My first film was Amadeus, it was a nightmare to make.
:45:23. > :45:27.Partly because the director was trying to directed in a country
:45:27. > :45:32.from which he had departed. They were and are likely to forgive him
:45:33. > :45:36.for that. Room with a view was a Merchant Ivory film, which meant it
:45:36. > :45:40.was family. Suddenly you had a feeling that everybody was in it
:45:40. > :45:44.together. There was no hierarchy. Although there were some of the
:45:44. > :45:54.most famous actors in England at the time, Maggie Smith and Judi
:45:54. > :46:01.Dench and Denholm Elliott. It felt We're going to end with a clip from
:46:01. > :46:06.one of your most popular films, A Room With A View.
:46:06. > :46:14.Congratulations, blessings, your because benediction. I want you to
:46:14. > :46:18.be supremely happy. As man and wife, mother and father. And now 40.
:46:18. > :46:21.in time. David Cameron has robustly defended
:46:21. > :46:24.Britain's aid budget, when every other aspect of government spending
:46:24. > :46:27.has been squeezed. But the idea of helping the disadvantaged in far
:46:27. > :46:29.flung countries ahead of the disadvantaged in this country does
:46:29. > :46:36.have its critics. Andrew Mitchell, the International Development
:46:36. > :46:40.Secretary is here. Good morning. We will come on to the critics in a
:46:40. > :46:45.moment. Let us start with your big conference tomorrow, the
:46:45. > :46:50.vaccination conference which Kevin Rudd was talking about. Of course,
:46:50. > :46:55.we are familiar with the fact that nation can cut child mortality. Why
:46:55. > :46:58.is this something people at home should be focusing on now? We had a
:46:58. > :47:04.look when they came into government at all of the different ways
:47:04. > :47:08.Britain does development, who the British taxpayer funds. One of the
:47:08. > :47:16.very best was the global alliance for vaccines and immunisation way
:47:16. > :47:20.you can vaccinate a kid in the poor world for the price of a cup of
:47:20. > :47:24.coffee, against killer diseases. Children and Britain do not die
:47:24. > :47:29.from these diseases. Everyone is coming together tomorrow for a
:47:29. > :47:33.pledging conference to support this, led by our Prime Minister. We are
:47:33. > :47:38.hoping by tomorrow lunchtime to have raised sufficient funding over
:47:38. > :47:43.the next four years to vaccinate a quarter of a billion children in
:47:43. > :47:48.the poor world and save millions of lives. We want to support it very
:47:48. > :47:52.strongly. We have a leadership role. As a result of the action taken
:47:52. > :47:58.tomorrow we have a real chance of saving more than four million
:47:59. > :48:05.children's lives. If you look at the amount of funding coming in,
:48:05. > :48:12.the Gates Foundation has provided the vast majority. From one of the
:48:12. > :48:16.early American tycoons, the man who dies rich, dies disgraced.
:48:16. > :48:23.remarkable combination, very many countries including new countries
:48:23. > :48:28.doing this like Korea, private philanthropic foundations, the
:48:28. > :48:34.private sector. Britain is doing a matching funding approach, so we
:48:34. > :48:38.drag in as much private sector funding and match it. A combination.
:48:38. > :48:43.Committed to try to save lives in the poor world. Let me ask you
:48:43. > :48:48.about a specific issue, we have seen these terrible photos about
:48:48. > :48:54.Syria, and what appears to be a hideous act taking place in
:48:54. > :48:58.northern Syria, people fleeing over the border. What can we do to help?
:48:58. > :49:02.You are right, pictures of extraordinary brutality and
:49:02. > :49:09.repression. That is why the International Committee unanimously
:49:09. > :49:13.has called on Assad to reform or go. People are fleeing into Turkey in
:49:13. > :49:23.large numbers. We have been in close touch with the International
:49:23. > :49:24.
:49:24. > :49:28.Red Cross, and at the moment, the Turkish Red Crescent is engaged on
:49:29. > :49:33.the border providing accommodation for 5,000 people. Britain will give
:49:33. > :49:38.strong humanitarian support in terms of Shelter, medicines and
:49:38. > :49:43.food from our stores in Dubai. The key thing is to stop the repression
:49:43. > :49:49.which is causing very large numbers of people to cross the border. If
:49:49. > :49:53.it continues, there will be an enormous exodus from Syria. We call
:49:53. > :49:58.on this Syrian government to stop this. At the United Nations, we are
:49:58. > :50:04.seeking to get a resolution to put further pressure on the regime.
:50:04. > :50:09.are still at the ratio -- up at this stage of resolutions but no
:50:09. > :50:13.leverage when it comes to Assad, different to Libya. But it is
:50:13. > :50:18.totally different from the situation in Libya because the Arab
:50:18. > :50:24.world which was unanimous on the subject of Gaddafi is not so on its
:50:24. > :50:28.area. This is the art of the possible, we do what they can. The
:50:28. > :50:34.British Foreign Office has been extremely effective at the United
:50:35. > :50:39.Nations, using humanitarian support to try to help in what is a brittle
:50:39. > :50:44.and difficult situation. You were in Libya a few days ago with the
:50:45. > :50:51.Foreign Secretary. There is clearly still difficult humanitarian areas
:50:51. > :50:56.around Misrata and Benghazi. Another attack overnight by
:50:56. > :51:03.Gaddafi's forces. Are civilians in those areas relatively speaking now
:51:03. > :51:08.safe? Did it that bit of the job has been done to Secure Benghazi?
:51:08. > :51:13.We have been successful in terms of getting food and medicine within
:51:13. > :51:18.Libya to the people who are at great risk. Britain was a strong
:51:18. > :51:24.supporter it in Misrata, not least in taking from the quayside
:51:24. > :51:28.thousands of poor migrant workers who were being shelled by Gaddafi.
:51:28. > :51:34.Britain said we would help to remove them. On the borders were
:51:34. > :51:37.900,000 people have fled across into Egypt and Tunisia, Britain was
:51:37. > :51:42.one of the first countries to get there with shelter and to get
:51:42. > :51:47.people away from the borders. That prompt action has stopped a
:51:47. > :51:52.religious school crisis on the border turning into a serious
:51:52. > :52:00.humanitarian emergency. Today there are less than 5,000 people on the
:52:00. > :52:06.borders. In terms of Misrata, it is clear there was an offensive by the
:52:06. > :52:11.Gaddafi militia, firing on Misrata. Most of the shells fell short of
:52:11. > :52:16.the city. But more than 30 people were killed or wounded yesterday in
:52:16. > :52:20.Misrata. On to the subject of aid, you were the only minister who has
:52:20. > :52:23.a substantial increase in his Budget to look forward to. Plenty
:52:24. > :52:28.of your colleagues on the backbenches in particular and some
:52:28. > :52:33.on the front bench feel that this is not fair. So many people in
:52:33. > :52:38.Britain are still not getting a good education, unable to find work,
:52:38. > :52:42.in genuine poverty, that a government in times which are tied
:52:42. > :52:46.should be looking first at the people at home. I think it was
:52:46. > :52:52.absolutely right of the coalition to say in the early days we would
:52:52. > :52:58.not balance the books on the backs of the poorest people in the planet.
:52:58. > :53:02.This Budget is morally right to do so, we live in an unequal word of
:53:02. > :53:07.great discrepancies, poverty far worse than anything we see today in
:53:08. > :53:12.Britain or in most of Europe. The fat in it southern sudan, a new
:53:12. > :53:17.state, will burst on the world on July night, a girl born there today
:53:17. > :53:22.has more chance of dying in childbirth if she has a baby than
:53:22. > :53:27.of completing primary-school education. It is morally right. It
:53:27. > :53:32.is in Britain's national interest. We do not protect as a duty only by
:53:32. > :53:37.guns but by training the police in Afghanistan, getting goals into
:53:37. > :53:42.school, building up governance structures. You mention Afghanistan
:53:42. > :53:48.and Ethiopia, what about India where they have enough money for a
:53:48. > :53:52.large nuclear force, enough money to put a satellite into space. But
:53:52. > :53:56.they're not spending the money on their poor people, why should we
:53:56. > :54:03.step in? They are. We made tough decisions when they came into
:54:03. > :54:09.office. We stopped aid to China and to Russia. We have frozen the
:54:09. > :54:13.Indian programme. Since the war, it is not Britain's largest programme
:54:13. > :54:17.for the first time. We have focused on the poorest people in India.
:54:17. > :54:22.India is a place where there are more poor people then the whole of
:54:22. > :54:27.sub-Saharan Africa. Britain's programme today is demonstrative,
:54:27. > :54:31.it shows how we can get more people into school, more healthcare to
:54:31. > :54:36.women. These programmes are massively scaled up by the Indian
:54:36. > :54:42.tax payer. British know-how is making a huge contribution. Now is
:54:42. > :54:45.not the time to stop the programme in India. It is part of a much
:54:45. > :54:51.wider partnership that was greatly reinvigorated by the premise that
:54:51. > :54:56.in his visit last year. When you talk about Britain being an aide
:54:56. > :55:01.superpower, that irritated colleagues. I said a development
:55:01. > :55:06.superpower. What I meant, just as America is a military superpower,
:55:06. > :55:11.because of the Brent things Britain is doing in the poorest places in
:55:11. > :55:16.the world, saving lives. I don't know if you have visited one of
:55:16. > :55:21.these awful malnutrition clinics in a hospital in a country like Uganda
:55:21. > :55:31.and seen children half the size of ours at the age of two. We can have
:55:31. > :55:32.
:55:32. > :55:36.a huge impact. One final thing, would it not be better actually to
:55:36. > :55:43.take that budget and hand it to the leading NGOs, why does it have to
:55:43. > :55:47.be done by government? NGOs which do brilliant stuff all around the
:55:47. > :55:52.world have a role to play. In the end, the approach the coalition
:55:52. > :55:57.government has is to go with what works. We deployed taxpayers' money
:55:57. > :56:00.so every pound delivers 100 pairs of development on the ground.
:56:00. > :56:03.Sometimes it is the NGOs which do that.
:56:03. > :56:06.Now over to Susanna for the news headlines.
:56:06. > :56:08.The United States has accused Syria of creating a "humanitarian crisis"
:56:08. > :56:11.with its crackdown on anti- government protests. Turkish
:56:12. > :56:15.officials say more than 4,000 Syrians have fled across the border
:56:15. > :56:18.to escape the violence. Refugees claim helicopters and tanks were
:56:19. > :56:28.used to attack people. Makeshift refugee camps have been set up in
:56:29. > :56:29.
:56:30. > :56:34.southern Turkey. The IMF says it is investigating is
:56:34. > :56:39.enough good attack on its computer network. The IMF holds says did
:56:39. > :56:43.economic data about many countries. The attack has been described as
:56:43. > :56:47.large and sophisticated and is thought to be related to an
:56:48. > :56:55.unidentified government. That's all from me for now. The next news on
:56:56. > :57:03.BBC1 is at 11am. Andrew Mitchell is still here. And we welcome back Ann
:57:03. > :57:09.Treneman and Kevin Rudd. I mentioned Australian politics was
:57:09. > :57:15.brutal. Straight out of Shakespeare. We have made she spent at her here
:57:16. > :57:19.already. Any lessons for British politics? I have a slightly
:57:19. > :57:24.different take. I know the brothers Miliband well. For more than a
:57:24. > :57:29.decade. Here in Britain you have actually got a couple of
:57:29. > :57:34.significant resources. They are both highly intelligent. Value
:57:34. > :57:37.driven politicians who I have known for a long time. But second point
:57:37. > :57:41.is, being Leader of the Opposition, and there have been that as well,
:57:41. > :57:45.it is the most awful job in the Western parliamentary system.
:57:45. > :57:51.Everyone would agree with that. I have been to the Australian
:57:51. > :57:56.Parliament. They are much more brutal than we are. A blood sport.
:57:56. > :58:02.A blood sport in our Parliament to be fair. Your Question Time is
:58:02. > :58:09.actually quite gentle. But have you seen there's? Equally violent but
:58:09. > :58:13.the Brits do it by euphemism, we are not given to euphemisms. Ann,
:58:13. > :58:19.you need to get a bit of sketching down there with even more extreme
:58:19. > :58:28.language. The problems in opposition are familiar, your party
:58:29. > :58:31.went through the same. Labour has a different problem. We have huge
:58:31. > :58:38.economic difficulties which we are wrestling with and Labour did not
:58:38. > :58:42.have a plan for the billions of cuts they have pencilled in. Until