:00:39. > :00:43.Good morning. We have quite a number of actors on this show, as
:00:43. > :00:48.you know. We have got another interesting one coming on later on,
:00:48. > :00:52.Denzel Washington. But I did like this remark quoted from the BAFTAs
:00:53. > :00:57.this week, coming from the late, great Sir Alec Guinness. Apparently
:00:57. > :01:02.he was once approached by a young child and was taken aback to hear
:01:02. > :01:06.the voice saying to him, when I am a grown-up, I want to be an actor.
:01:06. > :01:12.Sir Alec Guinness said, my dear boy, you cannot be both. Joining us
:01:12. > :01:17.today for our review of the newspapers, two grown ups, Deborah
:01:17. > :01:20.Haynes, and the Conservative MP David Davis. It is hard to remember
:01:20. > :01:27.a Sunday with more momentous story is at the top of the agenda on
:01:27. > :01:32.foreign affairs. The Foreign Secretary's statement about Iran is
:01:32. > :01:37.reverberating everywhere, as is the bloody struggle in Syria. Libya is
:01:37. > :01:41.not going too well, either, and this week, finance ministers will
:01:41. > :01:46.be meeting to consider the grease question. There is talk of chronic
:01:46. > :01:49.shortages in fuel, food and medical supplies there. I will be joined by
:01:49. > :01:53.the Foreign Secretary, William Hague, to talk about all of that
:01:53. > :01:56.and much more. Here, there's mixed news on the economy. The cherished
:01:56. > :02:00.AAA credit rating could be in jeopardy, and yet the Bank of
:02:00. > :02:05.England also says the economy is moving in the right direction, so,
:02:05. > :02:09.some music for the ears of George Osborne, amid the gloomy background
:02:09. > :02:15.noises. I will be speaking to his opposite number, the Shadow
:02:15. > :02:19.Chancellor, Ed Balls - does he think there are at last grounds for
:02:19. > :02:23.optimism? And I will be speaking to one of Hollywood's most enduring
:02:23. > :02:28.stars about his new action thriller, Denzel Washington will be telling
:02:28. > :02:33.me about the extreme lengths he went to for this role. Plus, there
:02:33. > :02:43.will be music from one of the hottest acts around, tipped for a
:02:43. > :02:46.
:02:47. > :02:50.Brit award as Best And later this So, lot to get through. Let's start
:02:50. > :02:54.with the news. Good morning. It has been reported that Iran is
:02:54. > :02:57.preparing to expand its nuclear programme. Diplomats in Vienna say
:02:57. > :03:01.new machinery is ready to be installed at an underground plant,
:03:01. > :03:07.which would speed up the country's production of enriched uranium,
:03:07. > :03:12.material which could be used in an atomic bomb, although Iran insists
:03:12. > :03:16.it intends to use it only to generate electricity. China has
:03:16. > :03:22.said it supports proposals by the Arab League to end the violence in
:03:22. > :03:25.Syria, after it -- after its diplomats visited the country.
:03:26. > :03:31.There have been reports that security forces opened fire on a
:03:31. > :03:36.funeral yesterday in Damascus. Police have arrested a man wanted
:03:36. > :03:41.over the murder of a vicar near Bristol. The body of Reverend John
:03:41. > :03:44.Suddards was discovered in his vicarage in Thornbury on Tuesday.
:03:44. > :03:48.Kent police say Stephen Farrow was held in Folkestone this morning on
:03:48. > :03:52.suspicion of murder. MPs are warning the government to make sure
:03:52. > :03:58.that eligibility tests for a new disability benefit are fair and
:03:58. > :04:00.accurate. The Work and Pensions Select Committee says some of the
:04:00. > :04:08.reforms to the disability living allowance could mean people missing
:04:08. > :04:11.out on the money they need to meet their needs. Face-to-face
:04:11. > :04:16.assessments already form part of the benefits system, in this case
:04:16. > :04:20.to find out if a person is fit for work. They're controversial and, in
:04:20. > :04:24.many cases, disputed by the individual concerned. But the
:04:24. > :04:27.Government wants to see more use of assessments as part of its overhaul
:04:27. > :04:33.of disability living allowance, which helps to meet the living
:04:33. > :04:36.costs of the disabled. The new allowance will be called personal
:04:36. > :04:39.independence payment, or PIP. It independence payment, or PIP. It
:04:39. > :04:45.will be determined by face-to-face assessments, which, by the
:04:45. > :04:47.Government's own calculations, should produce savings of 20%. But
:04:47. > :04:52.should produce savings of 20%. But MPs on the Work and Pensions Select
:04:52. > :04:57.Committee have concerns. Most people accept a need for reform of
:04:57. > :05:01.the allowance, certainly those we spoke to, although they believed
:05:01. > :05:05.that these particular changes could have been achieved by just
:05:05. > :05:10.reforming the existing benefit, not introducing a new one, and this has
:05:10. > :05:14.made people very anxious. Because when you get a new benefit, people
:05:14. > :05:18.do not know whether they will continue to qualify, and this is
:05:18. > :05:21.where the anxiety is coming from. The committee wants the Government
:05:21. > :05:29.to make sure the new assessments have been rigorously piloted before
:05:29. > :05:32.being rolled out. The start of Lent on Wednesday means many parts of
:05:32. > :05:37.the world will be celebrating carnival over the next few days.
:05:37. > :05:44.This is how they are doing it in Rio the Janeiro. This is the annual
:05:44. > :05:54.street party, which attracts about 50,000 people. Across the city, up
:05:54. > :06:00.
:06:00. > :06:08.That's all from me. I will be back with the headlines just before 10
:06:08. > :06:13.o'clock. I think part of the purpose of Sunday newspapers, some
:06:13. > :06:19.of it, anyway, is to make us all feel worse. And so we have the
:06:19. > :06:24.Observer with this story about how lots of terminally ill NHS patients
:06:24. > :06:30.will be left at the side of the road while VIPs go fast them -- go
:06:30. > :06:34.past them in the fast lane. This is the Sunday Times, with a story
:06:34. > :06:39.designed to make you grind your teeth with fury, about terrorists
:06:39. > :06:44.spreading jihad from British jails. The Sunday Telegraph, not to be
:06:44. > :06:50.outdone on the cheerfulness Stakes, as a story about �40 million in
:06:50. > :06:53.bonuses to MoD staff, which will make lots of recently redundant
:06:54. > :07:03.servicemen feel particularly cheerful this morning. And also in
:07:04. > :07:05.
:07:05. > :07:09.the tabloids, the lot of coverage of Whitney Houston. This one has a
:07:09. > :07:15.story about cars being hit by bombs, people dropping things on to
:07:15. > :07:21.motorways from bridges. And finally, the Mail on Sunday, this story
:07:21. > :07:25.about Britain's first male mother. Deborah Haynes and David Davis,
:07:25. > :07:29.thank you both for joining us. I will not pick up on that last story,
:07:29. > :07:35.don't worry. Whitney Houston, completely unavoidable, all over
:07:35. > :07:39.the papers. Yes, we picked out the piece from the Sunday Times, her
:07:39. > :07:45.funeral was yesterday, so there's lots of pictures of the mourners,
:07:45. > :07:55.including her co-star in Bodyguard, Kevin is, who gave some fond words
:07:55. > :07:57.
:07:57. > :08:03.of farewell to the singer, in a broken voice. Yes, even a cultural
:08:03. > :08:11.recluse like me can remember Bodyguard. From my point of view,
:08:11. > :08:20.the interesting story was a character I met on your programme,
:08:21. > :08:25.a lovely singer, lovely girl, and the headline was... Talking about
:08:25. > :08:29.the fact that actually three celebrities in the past year have
:08:29. > :08:36.all died, one way or another, related to drugs and alcohol and so
:08:36. > :08:41.on. She talks about how the pressures on her, the pressure of
:08:41. > :08:45.fame and so on, have led her to have a break down. But how it may
:08:45. > :08:51.be a saving for her, keeping her on the straight and narrow. It is a
:08:51. > :08:54.touching story. I always wonder how many of us, if we were told
:08:54. > :08:59.constantly we were completely wonderful, and given access to as
:08:59. > :09:04.much drink as was available, would be like this. Yes, it feels good to
:09:04. > :09:14.read about this - that's why stars have egos, she says, because we
:09:14. > :09:18.start to believe the hype. Hopefully it is a lesson for people.
:09:18. > :09:24.You have got a story about the world we live in, Deborah Haynes,
:09:24. > :09:29.in a different way... Yes, this is from the Sunday Telegraph, it is
:09:29. > :09:36.about how the Government can spy on your phone calls, texts and e-mails,
:09:36. > :09:42.under new plans, to be unveiled later this year. Details of all of
:09:42. > :09:46.these communications are to be retained for a year. It is all to
:09:46. > :09:55.do with clamping down on terrorist activity, ahead of the Olympic
:09:55. > :10:02.Games. There is always an excuse, isn't there? Remember when they had
:10:02. > :10:07.stop-and-search, we had 150,000 of those in one year in England, 14 in
:10:07. > :10:12.Scotland. It just shows that if you have these things, they're misused.
:10:13. > :10:16.And this is not just the phone call, it is where you made it from, what
:10:16. > :10:22.site you addressed. This is a resurrection of something the
:10:22. > :10:26.previous government brought in, it is a terrible idea, it is very bad
:10:26. > :10:31.for civil liberties. They have got most of the powers they need, they
:10:31. > :10:37.caught the London Glasgow bombers, by tracking what they said.
:10:37. > :10:40.disagree. Terrorists, or people that want to do bad things, have
:10:40. > :10:48.got so much technology at their fingertips, and it is pretty easy
:10:48. > :10:53.to track. So, if used correctly, surely this is a really good thing.
:10:53. > :10:58.With approval, fine, but the general purpose collection of all
:10:58. > :11:03.our data, and easy access to it, that is wrong. You will not find be
:11:03. > :11:08.arguing against using warranted intercepts, but this is just a
:11:08. > :11:15.hoovering up exercise, it will not work. They probably do it anyway.
:11:15. > :11:20.This takes us to your next story, I think, David. Yes, this one
:11:20. > :11:23.demonstrates actually that we are not doing the easy things regarding
:11:23. > :11:27.terrorists in jail which we ought to be doing. You would have thought
:11:27. > :11:31.that in jail, at least we would be able to control their activities
:11:31. > :11:37.and keep an eye on them. It goes back to when Jack Straw was Justice
:11:37. > :11:39.Secretary. What it is saying, in essence, is that all sorts of
:11:40. > :11:43.things are happening with people who have been locked up for
:11:43. > :11:49.terrorist offences, or indeed are under suspicion, they are being
:11:49. > :11:55.able to communicate with each other, to bring militant, radicalising
:11:55. > :12:00.literature into the prisons, send messages out from the prisons, Abu
:12:00. > :12:05.Qatada is mentioned, as being associated... That woman who stuck
:12:05. > :12:10.the knife into the stomach of Stephen Timms is saying what a
:12:10. > :12:15.wonderful time she's have been in prison. And this is for them, who
:12:15. > :12:20.are already convicted, but for people who go into prison, perhaps
:12:20. > :12:27.slightly weak characters, you know what the best gang to join is?
:12:27. > :12:32.Because prisons are run by gangs, it is the Radical Islam gang.
:12:32. > :12:34.should the Home Secretary be doing about this? Well, it is the Justice
:12:34. > :12:39.Secretary now, but I think we should not be putting them together,
:12:39. > :12:42.we should be separating them. We should be very, very much tougher
:12:42. > :12:46.about information going in and out, and there should be limitations on
:12:46. > :12:52.what they can send out. You lose your liberty when you going to
:12:52. > :12:56.prison. And you should lose your liberty. Yes, you should lose your
:12:56. > :12:59.liberty, properly. We should not be namby-pamby about it. I am the
:12:59. > :13:03.biggest defender of human rights, for innocent people, but once you
:13:03. > :13:08.have committed this sort of crime, you bring down upon yourself proper
:13:08. > :13:12.restrictions, I'm afraid. Thank you for that. We are going to turn to
:13:12. > :13:17.Denmark now, many of us have become obsessed by Denmark because of
:13:17. > :13:21.certain television programmes recently. We should get obsessed
:13:21. > :13:26.with Denmark for a different reason, in terms of the way they treat
:13:26. > :13:31.mothers. This is all about how Labour is looking at Denmark as a
:13:31. > :13:35.place to get inspiration for child policy. The Observer has been over
:13:35. > :13:45.to Copenhagen, to speak to various mothers, and it talks about how the
:13:45. > :13:47.
:13:47. > :13:52.Government pays up to 25% of the cost of day care. -- the Government
:13:52. > :13:59.pays up to 75% of the cost of day care. It is completely different to
:13:59. > :14:04.the UK. In Denmark, they say, everyone goes back to work. Over
:14:04. > :14:11.here, once you have had a couple of children, it actually becomes more
:14:11. > :14:15.cost-effective to stay at home. daughter, who worked for the BBC,
:14:15. > :14:20.left the BBC because the child care costs were so much, for the third
:14:20. > :14:25.child. It is a real issue of modern times. My mother's generation,
:14:25. > :14:29.basically one person worked in the family, the other person raised the
:14:29. > :14:39.children - that's not feasible today. Living in London, how many
:14:39. > :14:43.
:14:43. > :14:47.people can get by on one income? There's a lot of stuff in the
:14:47. > :14:53.papers this morning about tax. This article from Ed Balls here says you
:14:53. > :14:58.must cut VAT now, Chancellor. It's very interesting because there is a
:14:58. > :15:04.big argument going on about the growth strategy, the lack of it,
:15:04. > :15:12.but the argument comes from two directions. Three, actually. Ed
:15:12. > :15:17.Balls saying, cut VAT. It actually won't work because the money would
:15:17. > :15:23.leak out of the country. We would spend the money on Chinese goods.
:15:23. > :15:29.It wouldn't create any jobs. Then it David Laws in another paper
:15:29. > :15:35.calling for us to go up to the �10,000 limit, so nobody pays tax
:15:35. > :15:39.over that. Neither of these will give us the growth we need. The
:15:39. > :15:45.taxes which will give growth which would give us growth are not
:15:45. > :15:50.popular. Corporation tax, 1p tax. They on what you need to do. It's
:15:50. > :15:57.interesting when they talk about it later. Unfortunate, it would not
:15:57. > :16:02.balance the books. Given we are in this light the strange position,
:16:02. > :16:07.the triple A rating is under threat and so on, there is quite a mood of
:16:07. > :16:14.the Tory backbenchers for a tax cut. Yes, but they want the pro-growth
:16:14. > :16:18.ones. They say, don't be populist. This is the budget you have got to
:16:18. > :16:24.do it at because everything takes time. We won't pay the debt off if
:16:24. > :16:31.we don't get growth, so that's right. I'm afraid, it has to be
:16:31. > :16:37.unpopular tax members. -- measures. Countries have many small
:16:37. > :16:40.businesses, that we job creation comes. It's very hard. We are
:16:40. > :16:47.running slightly out of time but let's have another story from you.
:16:47. > :16:57.This is a courageous piece of reporting. It says the only British
:16:57. > :17:02.
:17:02. > :17:09.newspaper journalist inside the besieged city of Baba Amr. You what
:17:09. > :17:12.just back from the Falklands. not quite as scary. Reporting on
:17:12. > :17:17.the conditions there, she finds herself in a place called the
:17:17. > :17:23.widows basement, where makeshift beds and scattered belongings,
:17:23. > :17:27.frightened women trapped in a horror. It has been under siege for
:17:27. > :17:32.the past two weeks. It says the overwhelming sense of people she
:17:32. > :17:41.talks to in the City, it's one of abandonment, where is the rest of
:17:41. > :17:44.the world? In that Libya a year ago to the day, we saw the city being
:17:44. > :17:48.bombarded, under threat from a ground invasion and we know what
:17:48. > :17:55.happened after that. Here, they will talk about troops outside the
:17:55. > :18:00.city. You did the Libyan story in great detail for a long time, I
:18:00. > :18:05.remember it well. Do you think some kind of military threat is needed
:18:05. > :18:09.in Syria, too? I think it's happening. It's already happening
:18:09. > :18:13.for the free Syrian army. There is no where they would have those
:18:13. > :18:18.communications, with limited weapons at the moment, but they are
:18:18. > :18:21.getting some sort of outside assistance, but they need more. If
:18:21. > :18:29.they can go up against a more sophisticated military than the
:18:29. > :18:33.Libyans. They need help. Not just that. If we intervene in a big way,
:18:33. > :18:40.it would cause trouble with I Iranians. We have lots more to talk
:18:40. > :18:50.about with the Foreign Secretary. A great story, I think. Yes, my last
:18:50. > :18:51.
:18:51. > :18:57.story. Europe draws up secret plan for inevitable, the second of Third
:18:57. > :19:01.Secret ballot. They are saying the Germans admit they are drawing up a
:19:02. > :19:05.plan for Greece leaving the euro. The truth is, it's probably the
:19:06. > :19:11.only way Greece will be rescued. was unthinkable, unthinkable and,
:19:11. > :19:14.oh, it has just happened! Thank you both very much for that. Well, some
:19:14. > :19:17.frost on the ground this morning. But what the country needs, the
:19:17. > :19:20.south of it anyway, is rain, rain, rain. Any chance of a bit of
:19:20. > :19:28.precipitation to keep us lush and green this spring? Over to Chris
:19:28. > :19:33.Thanks, Andrew. There's not a lot of that to go around today, that's
:19:33. > :19:37.for sure. A dry day with prolonged spells of wintery sunshine. Not a
:19:37. > :19:41.lot of water to top up those groundwater sources, that's for
:19:42. > :19:48.sure. Most of us have the sunshine. Snow coming across northern
:19:48. > :19:53.Scotland. To the West Midlands, perhaps a few snow showers on the
:19:53. > :19:59.Salisbury Plain, but for most of us, a dry story with a fair bit of
:19:59. > :20:07.sunshine. 4-7 degrees. Tonight, quite by sea in Scotland and a bit
:20:07. > :20:14.of snow here. -- quite I see. To the south, it will be a widespread
:20:14. > :20:20.frost. Temperatures down to-six Celsius. Monday, a completely
:20:20. > :20:27.different day. Mild, wet and windy in the north and west. Temperatures
:20:27. > :20:31.in Scotland saw up to eight-10 Celsius. Rising temperatures will
:20:31. > :20:36.continue. The peak arriving on Thursday when we could have some
:20:36. > :20:40.exceptionally mild weather. Temperatures could reach 16 or 17
:20:40. > :20:46.degrees Celsius. That would be 63 degrees Fahrenheit, so not too much
:20:46. > :20:49.rain. It is said to get a lot Many thanks for that.
:20:49. > :20:53.Last week, the Governor of the Bank of England, Mervyn King, made clear
:20:53. > :20:55.that he felt the greatest threat to the UK wasn't inflation or rising
:20:55. > :20:58.unemployment, but the continuing uncertainty in the Eurozone. Well,
:20:58. > :21:01.by tomorrow evening we should know the outcome of that crucial meeting
:21:01. > :21:08.in Brussels, when European finance ministers decide what next to do
:21:08. > :21:11.about the crisis in Greece. Again! A crisis that is causing the
:21:11. > :21:16.greatest uncertainty of all within the EU. I'm joined now by the
:21:16. > :21:20.Shadow Chancellor, Ed Balls. Good morning. You were famously in
:21:20. > :21:25.government, hostile to Britain joining the euro. What do you think
:21:25. > :21:32.should happen now with a country like Greece? They are absolutely up
:21:32. > :21:36.against it. And, really, serious rising anger about other people
:21:36. > :21:41.turning the screw on them. It was the right decision for Britain not
:21:41. > :21:45.to join the euro, that something William Hague and I can agree on.
:21:45. > :21:49.What about Greece? It was wrong for them to join the euro because
:21:49. > :21:53.unafraid Greece was at a different stage of development, not
:21:53. > :21:58.integrated enough into the northern European ways, and they are paying
:21:58. > :22:02.a huge price as a consequence. There is now no easy way forward.
:22:02. > :22:07.I'm afraid simply to say Greece should lead the euro doesn't solve
:22:07. > :22:11.the problem for the eurozone potentially, which is very
:22:11. > :22:16.dangerous and destabilising, but for them to stay in the euro, and
:22:16. > :22:19.the same for Spain, Ireland and Italy, too, means slow growth,
:22:19. > :22:27.higher unemployment at a time when the German economy is not willing
:22:27. > :22:31.to pull its weight. The politics of that is lethal, aren't they? It's a
:22:31. > :22:35.dangerous situation. We have been here before. Countries locked
:22:35. > :22:41.together in a deflationary environment, years of slow growth
:22:41. > :22:45.and high unemployment. We saw it in the 1930s. History repeating itself.
:22:45. > :22:50.It's important to learn lessons from that. Although there is no
:22:50. > :22:55.good outcome, it would you agree it is inevitable Greece will go?
:22:55. > :22:59.inevitable, but the reality is, Greece has not really engaged in
:22:59. > :23:04.the global economy. They are propped up by public spending
:23:04. > :23:08.resources from the rest of the area, which could carry on. It won't be
:23:08. > :23:13.easy for the Greek economy. The real question, though, is what
:23:13. > :23:19.happens in particular Spain and Italy. Unless the group default
:23:19. > :23:24.which raises questions in the market. His Spain and Italy next?
:23:24. > :23:28.Germany is not able to face up to the common obligations you need in
:23:28. > :23:32.a single currency. That could lead to a crisis in the eurozone would
:23:32. > :23:36.would be dangerous. If that does not happen, though, what is the
:23:36. > :23:41.consequence? Along a protracted period of high unemployment and
:23:41. > :23:46.slow growth. So it's better to have the crisis, in some respects than
:23:46. > :23:50.the endless slow growth and political despair? Over the last
:23:50. > :23:54.two years, the European leaders have failed to face up to what
:23:54. > :23:59.needs to be done. They have got to the edge of a crisis and pulled
:23:59. > :24:06.away. Our government has not given the lead it to sort this out. They
:24:06. > :24:11.had seen it as a convenient excuse. As I understand it, Labour's policy
:24:11. > :24:16.is that we will join the euro when the time is right. Do you think
:24:16. > :24:22.it's time to go beyond that and say, actually, in my lifetime, no. If
:24:22. > :24:25.I'm on the bridge, we will not join this thing ever. I think it's
:24:25. > :24:30.inconceivable in this generation the UK will join the euro, but
:24:30. > :24:34.having said that, I don't think in my political life tenders any
:24:34. > :24:38.possibility of Britain joining the euro, nor should we because in the
:24:38. > :24:43.end, the consensus, the institutions are there to make the
:24:43. > :24:47.single currency work properly but not at the moment. Certainly not
:24:47. > :24:51.for a country quite different in some aspects of its economy, to
:24:51. > :24:54.Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, even France. I don't
:24:54. > :24:59.think we will join the euro, and I think was one of the most important
:24:59. > :25:04.decisions we made in the last 10 years not to join it. And rich and
:25:04. > :25:09.contribute money to the IMF bail- out? Depends what it's for. I'm a
:25:09. > :25:13.supporter of the IMF. If they going to help with the Greek adjustment,
:25:13. > :25:18.a Spanish difficulty, then we will support that, but if the IMF
:25:18. > :25:21.funding is supposed to go in to substitute for the funding which
:25:21. > :25:25.should come from the European Central Bank, because Germany says
:25:25. > :25:30.we are not willing to fund the European Central Bank, that would
:25:30. > :25:34.not only be the wrong thing but counter-productive. You can't go to
:25:34. > :25:39.China and say please give us funding in Spain it because we are
:25:39. > :25:45.not prepared to do that. It goes to a deeper issue, which is,
:25:45. > :25:48.politically, Germany has not faced up to the reality it's in. They
:25:48. > :25:53.have collective obligations in a single currency. They joined it and
:25:53. > :25:59.have got to make the best of it. Let's go on to some shallower
:26:00. > :26:05.issues for sublets talk about tax cuts. You said today, in your view
:26:05. > :26:09.there is a strong case for tax cuts, and you would like to focus on VAT.
:26:09. > :26:15.What about the Archer would David Davies was making. If you want to
:26:15. > :26:19.create growth you have to look at corporation tax, even at the 50
:26:19. > :26:24.pence rate also because that is what will drive more growth and get
:26:24. > :26:29.jobs. Before you jump straight through my whole argument, can I
:26:29. > :26:33.make the argument as to why this is important. There is a parallel with
:26:33. > :26:38.the eurozone. We are still imposing upon ourselves, and austerity which
:26:38. > :26:46.has turned out to be self-defeating. We can agree there is a big problem
:26:46. > :26:48.of growth and jobs. If the Government borrows less, 158
:26:48. > :26:55.billion million pounds, George Osborne says there is nothing they
:26:55. > :27:01.can do. I say to him, its complacent and irresponsible. Let's
:27:01. > :27:06.debate how we can act. I propose a temporary VAT cut. The Lib Dems as
:27:06. > :27:09.a raised the personal allowance. David Davies says cut capital gains
:27:09. > :27:13.tax or that we need to get the economy moving, good growth and
:27:13. > :27:18.jobs back. If the only way to get the deficit down. I don't think
:27:18. > :27:23.capital-gains tax will do the job. Does the stimulus used a debt means
:27:23. > :27:28.the debt get even worse and the triple A rating is dead? Wouldn't
:27:28. > :27:32.it have gone by now had the country been following other policies?
:27:32. > :27:37.we discussed this many times. Let me have another go for that you can
:27:37. > :27:42.get the deficit down through tax rises, spending cuts, and growth in
:27:42. > :27:46.jobs for the if you do your tax rises and spending cuts, but crash
:27:46. > :27:51.and destroy growth, and unemployment rises, the borrowing
:27:51. > :27:54.does not come down but it stays high, and George Osborne is
:27:54. > :27:59.borrowing �158 billion more than he planned a year ago because of no
:27:59. > :28:05.growth. Let's just say, Tory backbenchers were rallying around
:28:05. > :28:10.the idea of a cut in corporation tax, would the Labour Party support
:28:10. > :28:15.them on the basis that any tax cut at this moment, any stimulus, was
:28:15. > :28:18.better than none at all? David Davies talked about money the new
:28:18. > :28:25.to the country. We have families under pressure with their living
:28:25. > :28:29.standards falling. Hit hard by a VAT rise, and that's why confidence
:28:29. > :28:35.is down, unemployment is rising, businesses are not investing. I
:28:35. > :28:41.don't think a corporation tax cut or for people on incomes above
:28:41. > :28:46.�50,000, will give the injection into the economy we need. The VAT
:28:46. > :28:50.cut is the fastest way to temporarily boost to the demand and
:28:50. > :28:54.bring confident. You can look at a rise in tax credits. There is a
:28:54. > :28:59.separate debate about long-term reform, but you need action now and
:28:59. > :29:07.nobody thinks cutting corporation tax will get families spending and
:29:07. > :29:10.business is investing. Finally, one line, if you don't mind, if you
:29:10. > :29:15.take power at the next election it will be in a situation where there
:29:15. > :29:20.is no money and no new money. What is the Labour Party for in that
:29:20. > :29:24.situation? First of all, whether or not there is money, the state of
:29:24. > :29:29.the economy entirely depends on the decisions George Osborne makes
:29:29. > :29:34.right now. That's what I am going to continue to talk about. Not bow
:29:34. > :29:39.to pressure from backward looking credit rating agencies, which will
:29:39. > :29:42.determine whether the inheritance is stronger or weaker. Secondly, if
:29:43. > :29:47.we carry on the way we are, we will have higher unemployment and a we
:29:47. > :29:51.get employment. The Labour Party is about a strong economy at making
:29:51. > :29:55.decisions which are fair in difficult times, on energy bills,
:29:55. > :30:02.the bank bonus taxes, youth jobs. There are many things we can't do
:30:02. > :30:05.now. What is slightly odd, the economy is in trouble. And yet your
:30:05. > :30:11.leader is not popular. If he stepped down, would you put your
:30:11. > :30:17.hat in the ring? I don't think he will step down. I think he will win
:30:17. > :30:25.the next general lection. I will back him 100%. Whether it's phone
:30:25. > :30:29.hacking... We were hoping for a story there! The phone hacking,
:30:30. > :30:33.responsible capitalism, he set the agenda and made the argument you
:30:33. > :30:37.can have a fairness in tough times. He said it's not responsible to
:30:37. > :30:43.carry on with excess other top when families are suffering. Even if
:30:43. > :30:52.George Osborne... We have run out of time. Come back another time.
:30:52. > :31:00.Thank you very much indeed, Ed How far should a film actor go to
:31:00. > :31:08.put himself through what happens to his character? Oscar-winning actor
:31:08. > :31:18.Denzel Washington has to undergo water boarding in his latest film,
:31:18. > :31:18.
:31:18. > :31:23.genuinely very unpleasant, and he decided to do it for real. The two
:31:23. > :31:33.CIA agents have to combine their skills in an often very violent
:31:33. > :31:33.
:31:33. > :31:38.movie. I began by asking him about doing his own stunts. I did almost
:31:38. > :31:45.all of my own stunneds. Stunt men are in some of the wider shots, but
:31:46. > :31:55.the actual fights, that's me. something you would always do,
:31:56. > :31:56.
:31:56. > :32:02.generally? Not if they didn't pay me. We had great martial artists to
:32:02. > :32:07.work with us and to teachers what to do. The director really wanted
:32:07. > :32:13.the fight to be really sloppy and dirty. We worked on it for three or
:32:13. > :32:17.four months before we actually shot it. There is a sense, we should say
:32:18. > :32:21.this film is about a CIA Safe House which is not as safe as it should
:32:21. > :32:25.be! But there is a sense of panic at the beginning of the film which
:32:25. > :32:30.has kept up, something to do with the music, the cutting, the pace of
:32:30. > :32:33.it, we are not quite sure what's going on. There was a period of
:32:33. > :32:40.about six months where we really worked hard on the script to get it
:32:40. > :32:47.just so. I noticed your listed as a director as well. Executive
:32:47. > :32:57.producer. What does that mean in practice? Absolutely nothing.
:32:57. > :33:25.
:33:25. > :33:28.money? Yes! You're responsible for I only kill professionals. Quite
:33:28. > :33:34.often you're involved in the writing of a film, is that because
:33:34. > :33:39.so much of getting the film right is getting the script right? If it
:33:39. > :33:44.ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage. That is an old saying. I'm
:33:44. > :33:52.always asking, this doesn't make sense, I hate seeing a movie with
:33:52. > :33:55.tremendous holes in it. So, I get involved. I have been doing that
:33:56. > :34:00.now for the past 20 years, getting involved in developing the material.
:34:00. > :34:10.At the heart of this film is the relationship between you, as the
:34:10. > :34:17.older, slightly enigmatic guy. Watch it. Older, I said. And on the
:34:17. > :34:20.other hand, the younger co-star, Ryan Reynolds. You spend a lot of
:34:21. > :34:25.time hitting each other, but nonetheless, there is an intimacy
:34:25. > :34:35.in the relationship. Yes, only because he's the only one left
:34:35. > :34:37.
:34:37. > :34:42.alive that can help try to bring me in. And Tobin Frost is a master
:34:42. > :34:48.manipulator, a traitor, a cheat, he takes advantage of this young pup,
:34:48. > :34:53.but eventually he starts taking a liking to him, starts to warn him
:34:53. > :34:57.about what's really behind the CIA, what his life is going to be like.
:34:57. > :35:04.There is a horrible scene early on when your character is water
:35:04. > :35:06.boarded, you did not do that, I take it? I did. What was it like? I
:35:06. > :35:13.know that the late journalist Christopher Hitchens went through
:35:13. > :35:17.that. It is... You will give up your secrets, that's for sure. It
:35:17. > :35:22.is very disorientating. Once you get that water not only in your
:35:22. > :35:27.nose and mouth, but actually into your eyes and everywhere, you will
:35:27. > :35:30.tell something, it may not be the truth, but... In fact, that is one
:35:30. > :35:37.of the things I have heard said about it, it will not necessarily
:35:37. > :35:41.bring the truth out of you, you will just confess. Something will
:35:41. > :35:46.come out, yes. You have done a lot of action films, but also very
:35:46. > :35:56.often you have played the good guy as well. Do you prefer playing bad
:35:56. > :35:56.
:35:56. > :36:01.guys? No preference. I had never been offered to play a bad guy
:36:01. > :36:07.until Training Day, and then, after that, that is all I got offered.
:36:07. > :36:12.That is all they want me to do now. But I try to mix it up. Of the more
:36:12. > :36:17.violent and controversial films, the one which has intrigued a lot
:36:17. > :36:23.of people was The Siege, because it got a lot of criticism when it came
:36:23. > :36:30.out, for being too much, they said, they have gone too far this time.
:36:30. > :36:39.And then of course, 9/11. Three days after 9/11, I was at Ground
:36:39. > :36:46.Zero, I just had to go there. I am New Yorker, I just had to be there.
:36:46. > :36:52.More than 15 times, I heard from people down there, this is not The
:36:52. > :36:57.Siege, is it? When I was doing my research, they talk about this very
:36:57. > :37:03.thing happening. They said that it was going to happen, and that it
:37:03. > :37:07.was going to happen like that. spent a lot of your life doing good
:37:07. > :37:11.works, giving money to charity, working with the youths of America
:37:11. > :37:18.and so on, and you have said in the past, you could almost have been a
:37:18. > :37:24.picture. You wonder whether you missed your vocation? Well, I was
:37:24. > :37:27.told that I would preach. A woman told me years ago, before I started
:37:27. > :37:34.acting, she said, you're going to travel the world, you're going to
:37:35. > :37:41.speak to millions of people. And I have. So, I do not pretend to
:37:41. > :37:47.suggest that my acting is preaching, but I try to send a good message,
:37:47. > :37:52.and try to set a good example by the things I do outside of my films.
:37:52. > :37:56.Can you explain to British people, the boys and girls Clubs of
:37:56. > :38:03.America... After school youth programmes for kids. They say the
:38:03. > :38:08.most dangerous time of the day, for young people, is between three and
:38:08. > :38:15.six after school. If you're not a fleet, there is nothing to do.
:38:15. > :38:21.you keep kids on the straight and narrow at that time of the day. Yes.
:38:21. > :38:26.-- if you're not an athlete. You went to Military academy, how
:38:26. > :38:31.important was that for you later in life? My three friends, who did not
:38:31. > :38:37.go away to school with me, went to the penitentiary. Two of them did
:38:37. > :38:42.more than 20 years in the system, one is dead. I am the only one that
:38:42. > :38:48.did not do a day. I'm sure that my mother's decision to send me away
:38:48. > :38:55.was the key. The kids have more or less left home, I think, you have
:38:55. > :39:00.gone through that part of your life. Not yet, they're boomerangs, they
:39:00. > :39:04.do come back. You have got one professional footballer. One is a
:39:04. > :39:07.professional football player, who's also producing movies now. My
:39:08. > :39:13.eldest daughter has just graduated from Yale, and then my twins, one
:39:13. > :39:18.is an actress, and her twin brother is starting to make films. It is a
:39:18. > :39:21.pretty impressive collection. take after their mother, of course.
:39:21. > :39:25.For much of his political career, the Foreign Secretary, William
:39:25. > :39:30.Hague, has been a leading opponent of the euro. As far back as 1998,
:39:30. > :39:34.he warned that the single currency would fail, and that there would be
:39:34. > :39:39.writing on the streets. And so it has happened. Ahead of another
:39:39. > :39:44.crunch meeting for the Greeks, he joined me now. Welcome, Foreign
:39:44. > :39:50.Secretary. The Greeks should leave the euro, democratically, it is
:39:50. > :39:54.their only option... It is not easy, either way. This was one of the
:39:54. > :39:59.problems in the creation of the euro, which I was pointing out
:39:59. > :40:03.right back in 1998. You could make the argument either way, if you're
:40:03. > :40:07.a Greek, you could say, let's take control of our own destiny, but on
:40:07. > :40:10.the other hand, it is not straightforward to leave the euro.
:40:11. > :40:14.There is no legal provision for a country to leave the euro and stay
:40:14. > :40:17.in the European Union, at the moment. And they do not have the
:40:17. > :40:21.old currency sitting in the vaults, waiting to be distributed. They
:40:21. > :40:26.would have to take action to stop Euros leaving the country, maybe
:40:26. > :40:31.have border controls. It was built with no exits, the euro. So, it is
:40:31. > :40:37.not easy either way for them. We need to find an end to the
:40:37. > :40:41.uncertainty. In terms of political principle, as a democrat, is it not
:40:41. > :40:45.wrong that a country like Greece or Ireland finds its budget getting
:40:45. > :40:49.discussed in the Bundestag before it is discussed at home? Well, that
:40:49. > :40:53.is something we would never want in this country, which is one key
:40:53. > :40:57.reason why we should never join the euro. I am absolutely clear about
:40:57. > :41:01.that. I very strongly agree with that argument, but those countries
:41:01. > :41:07.chose to join the euro. They did not all consult their own people
:41:08. > :41:11.about it, of course. But their elected governments chose to join
:41:11. > :41:15.the euro, and there are consequences to that, which is that
:41:15. > :41:21.it does require closer integration, closer to political integration, it
:41:21. > :41:26.cannot work without that. When Germany is in a currency like that,
:41:26. > :41:30.it imposes on the others Germanic discipline, if they are going to be
:41:30. > :41:37.able to stay in it for the long- term. You in the Foreign Office
:41:37. > :41:41.have plans for what to do if Greece does leave the euro, and you must
:41:41. > :41:46.regarded as a likely outcome? the Foreign Office, we prepare for
:41:46. > :41:50.things whether they are likely or not. I am asking you what you think.
:41:50. > :41:56.It would not be helpful for me to say whether it is likely or not. We
:41:56. > :42:04.want an end to the uncertainty, and yes, we have prepared plans to help
:42:04. > :42:08.British nationals who are there, we keep those plans up to date on a
:42:08. > :42:14.daily basis. The best in Britain can do is to make sure that our own
:42:14. > :42:17.finances are in that order. We are a safe haven, relatively speaking,
:42:18. > :42:22.in international finance. We have given good advice to the eurozone
:42:22. > :42:26.about what to do, some of which they are now doing. The European
:42:26. > :42:31.Central Bank has been putting more liquidity into the European system.
:42:31. > :42:35.You have given some pretty high- profile warnings about the future
:42:35. > :42:39.for the Middle East, if Iran carries on with its nuclear
:42:39. > :42:43.ambitions - from the point of view of Israel, given what the Iranians
:42:43. > :42:52.have said about the future of the state of Israel, how could they
:42:52. > :42:58.possibly allow Iran to have nuclear weapons? None of us want Iran to
:42:58. > :43:04.have nuclear weapons. I don't think the wise thing at the moment is for
:43:04. > :43:08.Iran -- is for Israel to launch a military attack on Iran, if that is
:43:08. > :43:11.what you're suggesting. I think everybody in the world should be
:43:11. > :43:17.giving a real chance to the approach we have adopted, which is
:43:17. > :43:21.one of very serious sanctions and aggressive negotiation.
:43:21. > :43:31.Israelis, it would seem, have been talking to the Americans about the
:43:31. > :43:35.possibility of some kind of strike - have they been talking to you?
:43:35. > :43:41.They're not softening you up for it? There has been some discussion
:43:41. > :43:43.in public from Israeli politicians, from time to time, about this, so
:43:43. > :43:48.they do discuss it with their friends and partners around the
:43:48. > :43:52.world, but we are not part of any plan to... So when they come over
:43:52. > :43:57.to speak to you, the Americans, they are not saying, by the way, we
:43:57. > :44:01.might have to do this? No, we are not calling for any military action
:44:01. > :44:08.against Iran, we are not part of any plans. We do not take any
:44:08. > :44:13.option off the table. That would be unwise, but our approach is 100%
:44:13. > :44:17.focused, diplomatically and economically, to bring Iran to the
:44:17. > :44:21.negotiating table. The problem with that approach at the moment is that
:44:21. > :44:25.it is not working. Far from it working, the Iranians are boasting
:44:25. > :44:30.about how well they are doing at enriching uranium, and how fast
:44:30. > :44:33.they are moving ahead, so, the sanctions, it may stop a lot of
:44:33. > :44:37.ordinary Iranians from buying sugar and rice, but it is not affecting
:44:37. > :44:42.the regime. Well, it will be affecting them in various ways.
:44:42. > :44:46.They have indicated in the last few days a new readiness to negotiate.
:44:46. > :44:50.Whether that will be meaningful, one has to be sceptical about, but
:44:51. > :44:55.they will make bold statements if they are ready to negotiate. They
:44:55. > :44:58.will not just do that because they are confident, they will also do it
:44:58. > :45:03.if they are not very confident about the future. What I was saying
:45:03. > :45:08.this weekend about the threat of a new Cold War is that it is not in
:45:08. > :45:14.the interests of the Iranians to pursue this programme. But just to
:45:14. > :45:24.be clear, your worry is that if the Iranians to have nuclear weapons,
:45:24. > :45:24.
:45:24. > :45:32.then there will simply be an arms Either way, they will either be
:45:32. > :45:36.attacked, and there will be a war, or there will be a cold war. Iran
:45:36. > :45:41.is subject to these very intense economic sanctions, and they would
:45:41. > :45:45.find other nations in the region develops nuclear weapons. There
:45:45. > :45:51.would be a permanent stand-off with those countries. Like the Cold War,
:45:51. > :45:57.but without the safeguards against misunderstanding that we had.
:45:57. > :46:01.dangerous. This relates directly to the situation in Syria. There was
:46:01. > :46:06.interesting article in the Sunday Telegraph today arguing we should
:46:06. > :46:14.not be desperate to see President Assad removed because of civil war,
:46:14. > :46:19.ethnic violence, Al-Qaeda debt already coming into Syria. With or
:46:19. > :46:24.without it. I think it has lost credibility with some people,
:46:24. > :46:30.President Assad's regime. We want political solution and that's why
:46:30. > :46:35.the Arab League have put forward a successful political solution. It
:46:35. > :46:41.requires the departure of President Assad from office. I don't think
:46:41. > :46:45.Syria can be stabilised with him there. It is true it's a very
:46:46. > :46:50.complex situation, though. Many sectarian difficult seas and
:46:50. > :46:58.opposition groupings. That difficulties. It's not as
:46:58. > :47:04.straightforward as Libya last year. There, there was united opposition
:47:04. > :47:10.in control of part of the country. The effect of what we did in Libya
:47:10. > :47:14.was quite minimal. Assyria is much more complicated. Even in the case
:47:14. > :47:19.of Libya, things have not gone terribly well since then. A lot of
:47:19. > :47:24.violence and tension even in that case. How worried are you about
:47:24. > :47:30.what happens to Syria? Very worried. I'm worried they will slide into
:47:30. > :47:35.civil war. And our powers to do something about it are very
:47:35. > :47:40.constrained. We have not been able to pass a resolution in the
:47:40. > :47:45.Security Council because of Russia and China. A great mistake on their
:47:45. > :47:49.part. We will do many other things. We cannot intervene in Libya for
:47:49. > :47:54.the reasons we have discussed but we will do other things. We will
:47:54. > :48:00.come together in Tunisia. I will go there on Friday to meet my
:48:00. > :48:09.colleagues in the Arab world. And Africans, USA. Together, we can
:48:09. > :48:15.tighten the economic and economic stranglehold on President Assad. We
:48:15. > :48:20.will intensify our links with the opposition. We will pass European
:48:20. > :48:26.sanctions on Friday. It is different from Libya. Plenty of
:48:26. > :48:33.people inside Syria you would not want to see as part of a future
:48:33. > :48:38.regime, including Iranian-backed people, elements of Al-Qaeda?
:48:38. > :48:48.Iranian-backed people will not be fighting the regime. But, yes, are
:48:48. > :48:50.
:48:50. > :48:53.there many different types? Yes, there are. It's not as Clare and
:48:53. > :48:58.opposition structure as in Libya. We would like to see them coming
:48:59. > :49:05.together. We have advised them to come together. With a commitment to
:49:05. > :49:12.democracy. Including Christian minorities in Syria, that's the way
:49:12. > :49:16.to go. Clearly, there won't be British military involved, but if
:49:16. > :49:23.people decide to get involved in Syria, were to be supportive of
:49:23. > :49:30.that? We will not make a decision on that. Some stories over the last
:49:30. > :49:35.week about the Iranians backing terrorist groups who might target
:49:35. > :49:40.the West, including Al-Qaeda. They might even target the London
:49:40. > :49:47.Olympics. There are no specific information about a threat to the
:49:47. > :49:51.Olympics. Clearly, Iran has been involved increasingly in illegal
:49:51. > :49:56.and potential terrorist activity in other parts of the world. We saw
:49:56. > :50:02.the Iranian plot to assassinate the Saudi Arabian ambassador on
:50:02. > :50:08.American soil. It is alleged that they have been involved in what
:50:08. > :50:14.happened in the last week in New Delhi and Georgia and Bangkok. I
:50:14. > :50:19.think Iran has increased its willingness to commit utterly
:50:19. > :50:25.illegal activities, which is part of a danger they are presenting to
:50:25. > :50:35.the peace of the world. Meanwhile, some very brave reporting involving
:50:35. > :50:35.
:50:35. > :50:40.the area around Homs. Something has to be done to help the people there.
:50:40. > :50:44.They are going through hell. help in many direct ways. On Friday
:50:44. > :50:53.we are providing more humanitarian assistance, food rations for 20,000
:50:53. > :51:00.people. Clear drinking water, the cost applies. -- medical supplies.
:51:00. > :51:04.We can help people in that way. And we will help by being part of what
:51:04. > :51:11.I hope will be a very strong international coalition to increase
:51:11. > :51:14.the pressure on President Assad, and increase his isolation.
:51:14. > :51:20.Speaking of international coalitions, Somalia. You are
:51:20. > :51:24.bringing together a lot of people and, given the state of near
:51:24. > :51:27.anarchy in that part of the world, a lot of people would say what's
:51:27. > :51:31.the point of bringing together countries from around the world and
:51:31. > :51:36.what do you hope to possibly achieve? This is our main drive in
:51:36. > :51:41.the coming weeks on Somalia. We will host an international
:51:41. > :51:45.conference on Thursday in London. Why is this important? The Somalia
:51:45. > :51:49.has been the world's most failed state in the last 20 years. The
:51:49. > :51:55.scene of the world's worst humanitarian catastrophe with close
:51:55. > :51:58.to 100,000 people starving to death, potentially a base for terrorist
:51:58. > :52:02.activities and pirates activities, which would be on an increased
:52:02. > :52:06.scale if we don't do something. Now we have an opportunity because
:52:06. > :52:10.things have improved a little bit. I was in Mogadishu a few weeks ago
:52:10. > :52:15.and I saw for myself. We are in a position to bring the world
:52:15. > :52:19.together to do the right thing, get the right political process,
:52:19. > :52:23.improvement in the African forces there, international agreements on
:52:23. > :52:27.counter-terrorism and piracy. We can do all of that and this is an
:52:27. > :52:32.example of how, on the foreign policy, while we do with these
:52:32. > :52:38.crises, we are not just reacting to events. We are trying to solve
:52:38. > :52:46.problems before they get worse, to save lives, save ourselves having
:52:46. > :52:51.to intervene at a later stage. This is high diplomacy is working.
:52:51. > :52:55.deputy, couple of domestic questions. A lot of people look at
:52:56. > :53:00.what's happening to the Health Bill, and say this is no longer a battle
:53:00. > :53:06.worth fighting. Really, you have expended so much political credit
:53:06. > :53:09.on this, what are you going to get back, is it worth it? It depends
:53:09. > :53:13.how it works in the long term and the health service has to be
:53:13. > :53:19.reformed to cope with all the pressures of an ageing population
:53:19. > :53:22.for for this is no longer the bill to do it, is it? I think it is.
:53:22. > :53:28.What to have already achieved in the health service since the last
:53:28. > :53:33.election, 4,000 new doctors, and 4,000 fewer administrators. This
:53:33. > :53:39.bill helps to make administrative savings, help the health service
:53:39. > :53:45.and one more efficiency. Saving money. The finally, quickly, a lot
:53:45. > :53:48.of coverage of civil servants, top people in other departments
:53:48. > :53:56.positioning themselves for tax purposes as independent companies
:53:56. > :54:02.and avoiding tax, including in HMRC itself. As a politician, how do you
:54:02. > :54:08.regard that? I'm not fond of that behaviour. Sometimes people will
:54:08. > :54:14.have agreed their own arrangements, over a long time. And that's their
:54:14. > :54:20.contractual arrangements. They had their legal rights. Particularly at
:54:20. > :54:24.this time, people should be paying their taxes. No doubt about that.
:54:24. > :54:30.Thank you very much indeed, Foreign Secretary. Now over to Susanna for
:54:30. > :54:34.the news headlines. The Foreign Secretary has expressed concern
:54:34. > :54:38.about the Tareen situation in Syria. William Hague said he was worried
:54:38. > :54:42.the country would slide into civil war. China said it supports
:54:42. > :54:45.proposals by the Arab League to end the violence in Syria after its
:54:46. > :54:50.diplomats visited the country for talks with President Assad. The
:54:50. > :54:55.visit took place as activists a say security forces opened fire on a
:54:55. > :54:57.funeral yesterday in Damascus. China recently be towed a UN
:54:57. > :55:05.resolution condemning the Government crackdown on its
:55:05. > :55:08.opponents. Speaking earlier on this programme, the shadow chancellor Ed
:55:08. > :55:10.Balls has said that he does not expect Britain to join the Euro
:55:10. > :55:13."within his political lifetime". His comments come ahead of
:55:13. > :55:15.tomorrow's crucial EU meeting in Brussels to decide the Greek
:55:15. > :55:19.bailout. That's all from me for now. The
:55:19. > :55:22.next news on BBC One is at midday. Back to Andrew and guests in a
:55:22. > :55:25.moment. But first to Cambridge and Nicky Campbell with a look at
:55:25. > :55:29.today's The Big Questions. Join us in Cambridge where we will be
:55:29. > :55:34.asking, is Britain a Christian country? Professor Richard Dawkins
:55:34. > :55:38.is here to debate that one. The BMA has asked for a debate on organ
:55:38. > :55:40.donation and we ask, should it be easier to harvest organs for
:55:40. > :55:43.transplant? Referring to the band Kasabian,
:55:43. > :55:47.Noel Gallagher once said that, "If they do their job properly, you
:55:47. > :55:50.won't need Oasis in a few year's time." Well, the rise of Kasabian
:55:50. > :55:58.has been suitably impressive. And this month alone they are up for
:55:58. > :56:05.Best Band at both the Brits and the NME Awards. Welcome. You have got a
:56:05. > :56:10.new album, which is already almost nostalgic. You're looking back. You
:56:10. > :56:19.have been friends since you with this high, since you small boys?
:56:19. > :56:24.Yes, this is how we started, in our bedroom playing guitars. You are at
:56:24. > :56:29.the top of the guitar bands at the moment. We live in a strange world
:56:29. > :56:36.where it is R&B and so on. Yes, guitar music is pretty dead at the
:56:36. > :56:40.moment. There's no guitar bands around. But it's good. Rock and
:56:41. > :56:44.roll will come around for the we will hear it in just a moment.
:56:44. > :56:48.Thank you very much indeed. That's all we've got time for today, I'm
:56:48. > :56:56.afraid. Join us again at the same time next Sunday here on BBC One.
:56:56. > :57:03.Until then, we leave you with # Doomed from the start.
:57:03. > :57:10.# We met with a goodbye kiss. # I broke my wrist.
:57:10. > :57:18.# It all kicked off. # I had no choice.
:57:18. > :57:27.# You said that you didn't mind. # Cos love's hard to find.
:57:27. > :57:32.# Maybe the days we had are gone. # Living in silence for too long.
:57:32. > :57:42.# Open your eyes and what do you see?
:57:42. > :57:44.
:57:44. > :57:54.# No more laughs, no more # Turning slowly.
:57:54. > :57:57.
:57:57. > :58:00.# Looking back, see. # No words, can save this.
:58:00. > :58:04.# You're broken and I'm... # Run along like I'm supposed to.
:58:04. > :58:14.# Be the man I ought to. # Rock and Roll, sent us insane.
:58:14. > :58:21.
:58:21. > :58:31.# I hope someday that we will meet # Giving it everyone.
:58:31. > :58:31.
:58:31. > :58:35.# Now that's all done. # Cos we burnt out.
:58:35. > :58:40.# Maybe the days we had are gone. # Living in silence for too long.
:58:40. > :58:50.# Open you're eyes and what do you see?
:58:50. > :58:50.
:58:51. > :59:00.# The last stand. # Turning slowly.
:59:00. > :59:04.# Looking back, see. # No words, can save this.