:00:43. > :00:46.Good news and bad news this morning. Good news is that, if you're a
:00:46. > :00:50.little worried about the Budget, or planning, or anything, really, you
:00:51. > :00:57.can tell David Cameron about it personally. One to one. Possibly
:00:57. > :01:00.even at Chequers. The less good news is that,
:01:00. > :01:09.according to a Sunday Times sting, published today, it'll cost you
:01:09. > :01:16.�250,000, something like that. Joining me today for our review of
:01:16. > :01:18.the Sunday newspapers, no money has changed hands I promise: Tim
:01:18. > :01:21.Montgomerie of Conservative home website. Ann Treneman,
:01:21. > :01:23.parliamentary sketch writer for the Times; Tim Montgomerie of
:01:23. > :01:26.Conservative home website. Ann Treneman, parliamentary sketch
:01:26. > :01:27.writer for the Times. And the Daily Mail columnist, Sir
:01:27. > :01:30.Max Hastings. David Cameron, with uncanny
:01:30. > :01:33.perspicacity, said a couple of years ago that secret corporate
:01:33. > :01:36.lobbying was the next big scandal waiting to happen in British
:01:36. > :01:39.politics. And, before 7am, the Tory treasurer involved has already
:01:39. > :01:43.resigned, which, given the clocks went forward last night was some
:01:43. > :01:48.going. It may be, however, that the Budget remains a bigger issue. The
:01:48. > :01:52.leaks, the cut in the top rate, and the so-called granny tax. We're
:01:52. > :01:55.joined today by one of the people responsible for it all, the Liberal
:01:55. > :01:58.Democrat Chief Secretary to the Treasury, Danny Alexander. Is he
:01:58. > :02:01.responsible for picking the pockets of pensioners, as one headline put
:02:01. > :02:06.And, for all the talk of austerity, government spending is still going
:02:06. > :02:09.Also this morning: What about the young unemployed, of whom there are
:02:09. > :02:12.now more than a million? It's one of the issues David Miliband has
:02:13. > :02:15.chosen to focus on, since leaving frontbench politics. We'll hear his
:02:15. > :02:18.take on that. The former Foreign Secretary still follows
:02:18. > :02:23.international affairs closely. And we'll be talking about Afghanistan
:02:23. > :02:27.and Iran too. And: The D-Day landings were the
:02:27. > :02:30.beginning of the end of the Second World War in Europe. Now a new book
:02:31. > :02:34.tells the remarkable story of how the Nazis were deceived. About
:02:34. > :02:38.where the operation would take place. It's a tale of dashing spies
:02:38. > :02:40.and dummy tanks. And its author Ben Macintyre is here, to spill the
:02:40. > :02:45.beans. But first, over to Naga Munchetty
:02:45. > :02:47.for the news. Good morning. The Conservatives'
:02:47. > :02:50.chief fundraiser has resigned, after he was secretly filmed
:02:50. > :02:54.offering access to the Prime Minister, in exchange for a
:02:54. > :02:56.substantial donation. The party's co-treasurer, Peter
:02:56. > :03:00.Cruddas, made the remarks to undercover reporters from the
:03:00. > :03:08.Sunday Times. He's described his actions as "bluster", and said he
:03:08. > :03:12.deeply regretted any impression of impropriety.
:03:12. > :03:18.This is a headline David Cameron hoped he would never see again,
:03:18. > :03:26.wealthy donors try to buy access to the top of government. Gritting is
:03:26. > :03:36.the millionaire businessman who said he could make it -- Peter
:03:36. > :03:42.
:03:42. > :03:46.Cruddas. 100 Grant is not bird. �200,000. If you're not happy about
:03:46. > :03:51.something, we will listen to you, and we will put it into the policy
:03:51. > :03:57.committee at Number Ten. We will feed that back into the policy
:03:57. > :04:00.committee. A sensational claim. The Sunday Times said it sent in
:04:00. > :04:04.undercover reporters posing as reporters who wanted direct access
:04:04. > :04:09.to the Prime Minister. In fact, some of our bigger donors have been
:04:09. > :04:15.for dinner at Number Ten Downing Street, in the Prime Minister's
:04:15. > :04:19.private apartment with Samantha. Things will open up for you. It
:04:19. > :04:27.will be awesome for your business. Your guests will get a photo with
:04:27. > :04:31.David Cameron. Within hours of that being made public, he had resigned.
:04:31. > :04:41.He said he deeply regretted what he described as his plastered during
:04:41. > :04:44.
:04:44. > :04:47.the conversation. Saying: -- as his "bluster".
:04:48. > :04:52.David Cameron that says undue influence over government is a big
:04:52. > :04:58.problem. In 2010, he promised to deal with the opaque business of
:04:58. > :05:02.lobbying. It is the next big scandal and a waiting to happen.
:05:02. > :05:12.Which exposes the cosy relationship between politics, government,
:05:12. > :05:23.
:05:23. > :05:27.business and money. I am talking There is no claim David Cameron
:05:27. > :05:31.knew what was being offered during the meeting. What is being
:05:31. > :05:35.discussed is not illegal, but it is a reminder of what many consider to
:05:35. > :05:38.be the worst side of politics. Members of the Army are to be
:05:38. > :05:41.trained to deliver fuel to petrol stations, ahead of a possible
:05:41. > :05:49.strike by tanker drivers. 2,000 members of the Unite union are
:05:49. > :05:53.being balloted, on industrial action.
:05:53. > :05:58.Scenes which the government are keen not to see repeated, blockades
:05:58. > :06:04.and fears of shortages in 2000 led to panic buying and long queues at
:06:04. > :06:11.petrol stations. 12 years on, the Unite union is balloting tanker
:06:11. > :06:14.drivers in a row over safety. It involves 2000 members who work for
:06:14. > :06:19.seven major fuel distribution companies. The ballot closes
:06:19. > :06:23.tomorrow and is likely to result in a strike next month possibly over
:06:23. > :06:28.Easter. Ministers say the training of army drivers will begin next
:06:28. > :06:32.week as part of contingency planning. Whitehall insists the
:06:32. > :06:36.strikes if they happen will not lead to a repeat of the fuel
:06:36. > :06:44.blockades which brought the country to a near standstill. Nevertheless,
:06:44. > :06:48.they do accept motorists may be concerned in anticipation of
:06:48. > :06:51.problems ahead. President Obama has arrived in the South Korean capital
:06:51. > :06:54.Seoul, where he will attend a major nuclear security summit. He'll be
:06:54. > :06:57.joined by leaders from more than 50 nations, including the Deputy Prime
:06:57. > :07:01.Minister Nick Clegg. Tensions in the region have increased recently,
:07:01. > :07:05.after North Korea announced plans to send a satellite in to space.
:07:05. > :07:07.The US and others say the launch is a cover for a long-range missile
:07:07. > :07:11.test. The former Irish Prime Minister,
:07:11. > :07:14.Bertie Ahern, has resigned from his party, Fianna Fail. He is being
:07:14. > :07:18.investigated for alleged corruption, and the party was preparing a vote
:07:18. > :07:22.on whether to expel him. Mr Ahern said he would fight to clear his
:07:22. > :07:24.name. The government is being urged to
:07:24. > :07:28.contribute to the repair and maintenance of Britain's great
:07:28. > :07:31.churches. A BBC local radio survey has found that many of England's
:07:31. > :07:34.finest cathedrals are struggling to find the money they need to keep up
:07:35. > :07:37.their buildings. Church leaders are concerned they won't be able to
:07:37. > :07:42.meet their running costs, from their own reserves and visitor
:07:42. > :07:47.donations. That's all from me, for now. I'll
:07:47. > :07:55.be back just before ten o'clock with the headlines. Andrew.
:07:55. > :08:00.Thank you, Naga. Now, on to the front pages today.
:08:00. > :08:10.The Observer has changed its front page. That is the Sunday Times
:08:10. > :08:11.
:08:11. > :08:18.And a story about soldiers standing by to drive petrol tankers, you saw
:08:18. > :08:25.that in the news. The Sun newspaper and, this
:08:25. > :08:35.headline. And a very interesting thing, this offer. The Budget has
:08:35. > :08:41.increased the tax on hot Prize -- pies.
:08:41. > :08:48.And the Sunday Express. That seemed to be a suspiciously Nelda Lee
:08:48. > :08:52.photograph! And the Sunday Telegraph, maybe an
:08:52. > :09:02.even bigger political story in due course.
:09:02. > :09:04.
:09:04. > :09:08.I think we should probably start with the cash for access story. A
:09:09. > :09:14.classic, or old fashioned newspaper sting, and I'm glad to say they are
:09:14. > :09:23.still going on. Another reminder, if we needed one, as much as we
:09:23. > :09:28.disapprove of our newspapers's Pavia, they mustn't be shackled, so
:09:28. > :09:34.they can do this kind of staying. What we see in the Sunday Times,
:09:34. > :09:41.this picture of David Cameron and Chequers, and the idea if you paid
:09:41. > :09:48.250,000 House, you can perhaps get access to him. The wine should
:09:48. > :09:54.businessmen give large sums, and less that can buy them access?
:09:54. > :09:59.will they raise money otherwise? the past, we have had a more
:09:59. > :10:06.ideological brand of donor. People gave because they were Euro-
:10:06. > :10:10.sceptics. But now, the party is in power, you get a slightly different
:10:10. > :10:17.kind of donor, who is not so ideologically committed to the
:10:17. > :10:22.party but which wants to get closer to the Prime Minister. So, the less
:10:22. > :10:27.the gap in politics, the more likely the corruption. That is the
:10:27. > :10:34.danger. How dangerous is this? you look at the Conservative Party
:10:34. > :10:41.website this morning. There is a donor's club. The �5,000, you have
:10:41. > :10:47.the opportunity to meet and debate with MPs. �25,000, you meet senior
:10:47. > :10:52.figures from the Conservative Party. �50,000, you are invited to join
:10:52. > :10:57.David Cameron and senior figures. The Sunday Times has pulled back
:10:57. > :11:00.the curtain and showed us what happens in a very vivid way. The
:11:00. > :11:05.Conservative Party is quite transparent. The difference is,
:11:05. > :11:10.using Downing Street and Chequers, that is where it moves into a
:11:10. > :11:15.particularly difficult area. that is damaging? A I wonder if
:11:15. > :11:21.many people think this is the sort of thing politicians get up to
:11:21. > :11:28.anyway. In a way, people won't like it but added big it will change our
:11:28. > :11:37.views of politicians. Only special people who pay that kind of money
:11:37. > :11:42.can get in there. 80 or 90% of Labour's funding comes from the
:11:42. > :11:45.unions. I agree, the public won't be surprised but I would think it
:11:45. > :11:54.is most damaging to the government's reputation for
:11:54. > :12:02.competence. Once again, that this could be allowed to happen on that
:12:02. > :12:08.David Cameron's watch. And in the week of the Budget. Let us turn to
:12:08. > :12:12.the Budget. It will be interesting to see whether this produces
:12:12. > :12:18.another round of talk about reforming party funding which has
:12:18. > :12:28.been going on. It will be interesting to see if anything
:12:28. > :12:32.changes. If, in six months, the actual practice will stop. That is
:12:32. > :12:37.where David Cameron can get back the moral authority. The Prime
:12:37. > :12:43.Minister who once and for all resolves this. Talk us through some
:12:43. > :12:50.of the Budget coverage? The most amazing thing is the acres of words
:12:50. > :13:00.on it, and I can't find anything positive. It has managed to unite
:13:00. > :13:06.
:13:06. > :13:11.the country. All of the headlines. I still can't believe he meant it
:13:11. > :13:18.to be like this, but apparently so. Anyone could have seen this was a
:13:18. > :13:28.PR disaster, the anything that hadn't been leaked, if anyone ever
:13:28. > :13:33.says to you, you must simplify your tax dealings. The Budget it is
:13:33. > :13:38.about theatre, the sums of money are tiny compared with this huge
:13:38. > :13:43.business of public spending, hundreds of billions, completely
:13:43. > :13:47.unaffordable, public spending is out of control. Here is this Budget,
:13:47. > :13:53.this is about political theatre, an opportunity for the Chancellor to
:13:53. > :14:00.make the country feel better. And, he blows it. I can't understand why
:14:00. > :14:05.somebody sitting by George, how are these figures going to play with
:14:05. > :14:13.Middle England which feels it is being kicked by this government.
:14:13. > :14:20.Like, changes to planning law, wind power, a gay marriage. Why now give
:14:20. > :14:30.the more to be uncomfortable about? You have picked out this story on
:14:30. > :14:30.
:14:30. > :14:34.stamp duty. One of the problems with the Budget, a lot of people
:14:34. > :14:39.don't think the numbers stack up about how much money he will get.
:14:39. > :14:45.It is obvious, these super-rich have better accountants than George
:14:45. > :14:48.Osborne and they will find new ways to get out of it. No one can think
:14:48. > :14:54.that the last few days have been good politically in the short run
:14:54. > :15:00.for the government. George Osborne has made the calculation that this
:15:00. > :15:06.is a mid term Budget, and he needed to get rid of the 50p tax. Cut
:15:06. > :15:16.corporation tax. These are the sort of things business has been asking
:15:16. > :15:17.
:15:17. > :15:24.If this helps, these headlines will be forgotten. I don't care if they
:15:24. > :15:31.will be forgotten because people do see them as rich public schoolboys.
:15:31. > :15:36.Do they not think that already? They do, but now even more. Do you
:15:36. > :15:40.believe in this Budget on points of substance? Do you believe it does
:15:40. > :15:46.significantly advanced the prospect of getting the economy right?
:15:46. > :15:49.with you on the fact that the government keeps promising to cut
:15:49. > :15:54.spending properly in a few more years, like me promising I will
:15:54. > :15:59.lose weight in a few more years. It needs to be done now in order to
:16:00. > :16:07.get the problem sorted. official figures show public-
:16:07. > :16:11.spending in real terms, inflation going up by about 0.5% this year
:16:11. > :16:17.when we thought it was coming down. I thought it meant austerity
:16:17. > :16:23.cutting. That means a lot of the cuts are still to come. That's
:16:23. > :16:33.right, and if it happens now we wouldn't need a tax on hot cakes
:16:33. > :16:33.
:16:33. > :16:38.and grannies and the other things that caused controversy! Another
:16:38. > :16:44.story I picked out, Britain's 10 billion pound fiasco about these
:16:44. > :16:54.aircraft carriers. I was watching these enormous things being built.
:16:54. > :17:00.
:17:00. > :17:04.Here they are, these aircraft, and now we can't afford the aeroplanes
:17:04. > :17:09.to fly off them and we will end up with these enormous aircraft
:17:09. > :17:17.carriers wasting billions of pounds and nobody has dared to say stop,
:17:17. > :17:24.this is madness. I would like to use a brilliant segue, going from
:17:24. > :17:29.aircraft carriers to aircraft at Heathrow. You have picked up a
:17:29. > :17:38.possible U-turn on the third runway at Heathrow. One of the defining
:17:39. > :17:48.features of David Cameron's time of leaders of the opposition was to
:17:49. > :17:51.
:17:51. > :17:57.fly got the green issue. -- flag up. This decision is most popular with
:17:57. > :18:01.business. I was speaking to someone the other day who was saying that
:18:01. > :18:06.Heathrow is becoming a nightmare airport for international business
:18:06. > :18:10.people to come into. I think the government have realised we need to
:18:10. > :18:15.increase airport capacity. The Liberal Democrats are probably more
:18:15. > :18:22.committed to opposing a third runway than the Conservatives so I
:18:22. > :18:29.don't know where this will end up. The Independent on Sunday talks
:18:29. > :18:33.about RAF Northolt, 13 miles away, becoming the third runway! The road
:18:33. > :18:41.connections are very poor as well. We should probably move on from the
:18:41. > :18:45.Budget, enjoyable as that has been. Do you have another story there?
:18:45. > :18:51.The whole world is about the Budget, but I have this great little story
:18:51. > :18:55.about the fact that now, bread, which is not being taxed, possibly
:18:56. > :19:05.the only thing left, but now there is a discussion about what is bread
:19:06. > :19:09.
:19:09. > :19:13.and what isn't. Is a hot cross formed bread? -- bun. A group of
:19:13. > :19:20.civil servants will have to redefine bread, otherwise the tax
:19:20. > :19:26.will not work. The European Court judgments in future years, it is a
:19:26. > :19:34.whole tabloid game. And this is part of the hot pie scandal. Greg
:19:34. > :19:40.the bakers have been taking quite a hit. All the papers have stories
:19:40. > :19:47.about this Russian banker who has been shot in the middle of London.
:19:47. > :19:52.The mystery of two wives comes down on London street. I think this
:19:52. > :19:58.should be a wake-up call about the significance of this huge Russian
:19:58. > :20:02.community in Britain. Russia is now in the hands of a gangster culture,
:20:02. > :20:07.which is now seeping into London. I spoke to a central banker a few
:20:07. > :20:12.weeks ago, asking if it was wrong to be alarmed about what was going
:20:12. > :20:18.on, he said absolutely not, and London has become the money-
:20:18. > :20:22.laundering capital of the world. Ministers laugh about this, saying
:20:22. > :20:27.they buy football teams, but these people are essentially gangmasters
:20:27. > :20:36.and they are bringing it to London. This is a serious story. This guy
:20:36. > :20:39.could not go back to Russia, he would be on safer. I said to my old
:20:39. > :20:43.friend that he should write an investigative walk about the
:20:43. > :20:46.Russians in the West, and at first he said it was a great idea but
:20:46. > :20:53.then when he thought about it he said I am not going to do it
:20:53. > :21:01.because I don't want to die. These people shoot you. Do we want people
:21:01. > :21:07.like these here? Not much. Sir Michael Spicer, tell me about who
:21:07. > :21:12.he was in the Conservative Party. He used to be chairman of the 1922
:21:12. > :21:17.backbench committee, a powerful group of Tory MPs, his memoirs are
:21:17. > :21:22.coming out and he has the story about how Margaret Thatcher
:21:22. > :21:27.regretted going into politics because of the impact on her family.
:21:27. > :21:32.I don't know if we believe it or not, it sounds fascinating claim,
:21:32. > :21:37.but if you can imagine Margaret Thatcher at home as a housewife.
:21:37. > :21:42.This is almost unthinkable. believe she might have said it but
:21:42. > :21:47.I don't believe it is true. In a moment of frustration. Yes, one
:21:47. > :21:52.moment. He is a classic example of the kind of Conservative you don't
:21:52. > :21:57.see on the back benches so much these days, the shy Tory who was a
:21:57. > :22:02.great fixer and had authority on the back benches. Senior
:22:03. > :22:10.backbenchers used to be people of real significance. Now it has all
:22:10. > :22:19.changed and they are all identikit Central Office people. I don't
:22:19. > :22:25.think that is fair. There are some real stars, people who are very
:22:25. > :22:30.independent. Rebellion is what we want. The art independently minded,
:22:30. > :22:34.they really are. I like the story in the memoirs about Margaret
:22:34. > :22:39.Thatcher refusing hairspray because none of it was made in Britain. She
:22:39. > :22:46.was prepared to go on camera looking a bit wild!
:22:46. > :22:49.Thank you. The start of British Summer Time has been accompanied by
:22:49. > :22:53.some summery weather, there are some summery weather, there are
:22:53. > :22:58.already drought warnings. Let's go to the weather studio. In men in
:22:58. > :23:01.respect, more of the same. Temperatures more like those of
:23:02. > :23:07.June than those of late March. We have another one day on the cards
:23:07. > :23:13.with plenty of sunshine but we have some patches of dense fog once
:23:14. > :23:18.again affecting Central Scotland and north-eastern England. A little
:23:18. > :23:23.bit cool look across East Anglia and the south-east, particularly
:23:23. > :23:31.around the coastal fringes. The mist and fog burning away as we go
:23:31. > :23:37.into the early part of the afternoon. Most areas bathed in
:23:37. > :23:43.sunshine, the exception being the coast of East Anglia. Temperatures
:23:43. > :23:46.could be 22 across the north-east of Wales. Overnight, mist and fog
:23:46. > :23:55.patches will become thick and dense again across the Central lowlands
:23:55. > :24:01.of Scotland. Across Yorkshire and Lincolnshire as well. By the time
:24:01. > :24:05.we get to the afternoon, most will have fine spells of sunshine again.
:24:06. > :24:11.Temperatures soaring into the high teens if not the low 20s. Just to
:24:11. > :24:17.give you a flavour of howl unusual this temperature at is, the current
:24:17. > :24:21.March record is 22.2 Celsius which has toured for over 50 years, and
:24:21. > :24:25.has toured for over 50 years, and it might go over the next few days.
:24:25. > :24:29.We know he is earning lots of money and we know he has strong views
:24:29. > :24:36.about youth unemployment, but we have not seen a lot of David
:24:36. > :24:40.Miliband since the fight for the leadership.
:24:40. > :24:48.He takes a lot of interest in foreign affairs, notably the
:24:48. > :24:53.deadliest of dilemmas to do with Iraq and Afghanistan. Good morning.
:24:53. > :24:59.Let's start with the big political story of the day, this sting
:24:59. > :25:03.operation conducted by the Sunday Times. Very embarrassing to have
:25:03. > :25:08.the exchange, the to and fro with alleged business people wanting to
:25:08. > :25:14.buy access into Downing Street. The to is a bit more than embarrassing.
:25:14. > :25:19.The idea that policy is for sale is grotesque. I think David Cameron
:25:19. > :25:24.will have to publish the list of policies that have been sent from
:25:24. > :25:29.these dinners and have been sent to this committee, this number 10
:25:29. > :25:34.committee that has been advertised. In the end he will have to do that,
:25:34. > :25:38.I would say he should do it now because this goes to the heart of
:25:38. > :25:43.the relationship of being a party and a government. It goes through
:25:43. > :25:48.the lines that should exist between party and government. A business
:25:48. > :25:55.people, including under New Labour, have always sought access to
:25:55. > :25:58.ministers so what is different about this case? Secrecy, the
:25:58. > :26:02.crashing of the line between party and government, and something else
:26:02. > :26:08.because it goes to the heart of the question over whether the Tory
:26:08. > :26:13.party had changed. David Cameron claimed he had modernised the party.
:26:13. > :26:18.My own view is that the public didn't believe the Tory party had
:26:18. > :26:23.changed. The budget provided further evidence that the change
:26:23. > :26:26.was skin deep. The revelations today go to the heart of the claim
:26:26. > :26:32.that he can trust the Conservative Party because they got rid of those
:26:32. > :26:37.bad old ways. Your own party when through some pretty big scandals
:26:37. > :26:41.back in the day. Is the time finally here when parties have got
:26:41. > :26:48.to get together and talk seriously about reforming the way British
:26:48. > :26:53.politics works? There has been no shortage of discussions and debates.
:26:53. > :26:56.My own priority would be to lower the limit of spending. The less
:26:56. > :27:00.cash you're allowed to be spent, the less need there is for this
:27:00. > :27:06.kind of thing. There is also the question of public funding that
:27:06. > :27:11.goes into parties. My own view is that you can't in these times argue
:27:11. > :27:16.for that to be increased. You can't increase the tax burden to pay for
:27:16. > :27:19.more public funding. I also think there is an issue about a single
:27:19. > :27:26.individual giving so much but that is something that needs to be
:27:26. > :27:31.worked through by the party. Your view is that it has to formalise
:27:31. > :27:37.the relationship with the unions, isn't it? The old party structures
:27:37. > :27:43.don't work any more, in the Tories' or in Labour. In the Labour Party,
:27:43. > :27:48.we have got to do a better job with engaging with trade unionists, who
:27:48. > :27:54.we want to be more active in politics. It is a matter of real
:27:54. > :28:01.individuals. So you want to get off the hook off the block vote and get
:28:01. > :28:04.on to a mass party? We have got to. I have spent a lot of the last 18
:28:04. > :28:09.months working on community politics, I have set up a
:28:09. > :28:12.leadership academy. Some people might think that is ironic, but I
:28:12. > :28:18.have set it up for community leadership so people can make
:28:18. > :28:22.change in their own community. That has taught me about government that
:28:22. > :28:26.engages people in a different way because the truth about Britain is
:28:26. > :28:29.not that we have an over- centralised state, we have
:28:29. > :28:34.underpowered communities and I think that is something we have to
:28:34. > :28:40.address directly. To break that up, we should get into a position where
:28:40. > :28:45.no rich person pays more than a million pounds no union pays more
:28:45. > :28:54.than a million pounds, we get away from that centralised funding.
:28:54. > :28:58.thing about the Labour Party is you have individual unionists, none of
:28:58. > :29:06.them pay a million pounds. Barons do tend to call the shots.
:29:06. > :29:12.Yes, I know a bit about barons. I know from my own constituency, the
:29:12. > :29:20.individual trade unionists who want to make sure their voices are heard
:29:20. > :29:25.in politics, I think we should go with that, not run against it. It
:29:25. > :29:29.is about transparency openness. I spend my time working for the
:29:29. > :29:34.grassroots of the Labour Party. I am as committed today to the Labour
:29:34. > :29:39.Party as I am when I joined, but I want to make sure it becomes a
:29:39. > :29:44.sustainable organisation at the grass roots. And yet, it has been
:29:45. > :29:48.the big union barons who have been able to Grandstand, as you say you
:29:48. > :29:54.were on a sticky side of that yourself, and that has to change,
:29:54. > :30:01.doesn't it? If we are talking about the deep suspicion of Conservative
:30:01. > :30:10.funding on one side, there is still the suspicion about your party.
:30:10. > :30:16.Balls, Ed Miliband, they are the leaders of the party. They speak
:30:16. > :30:19.loud and clear about the party. Not given the pace since they got for
:30:19. > :30:29.what they said about the economy, they should be no doubt that the
:30:29. > :30:31.
:30:31. > :30:35.people who run the Labour Party are You raise your own position there.
:30:35. > :30:40.When are you going to come back on to frontline politics? You have had
:30:40. > :30:44.some time out, you have earned a bit of money. You have looked at
:30:44. > :30:49.some of the grass roots organisations. You don't seem to
:30:49. > :30:53.beat somebody whose ambition is limited to be a backbencher.
:30:53. > :31:00.My ambition is the return of a Labour government. I have to have
:31:00. > :31:06.the humility to recognise, while a daily soap opera might be fun for
:31:06. > :31:11.the media, it will not be for the Labour Party. My brother won the
:31:11. > :31:17.leadership, and I am committed to supporting him. I can best support
:31:18. > :31:24.him by working at the grassroots. The Shadow Cabinet has its place.
:31:24. > :31:28.Does that mean you will leave politics? If you are not going, if
:31:28. > :31:35.you don't have aspirations to play at the top team, are you going to
:31:35. > :31:44.carry on as a Labour MP? Yes, I represent my constituency in South
:31:44. > :31:49.Shields. 590 young people have been unemployed for months, over nine
:31:49. > :31:54.months, it in my constituency... lot of people out there want to
:31:54. > :32:04.know, they admire you and want to know you are going to stay in
:32:04. > :32:04.
:32:05. > :32:09.British politics. And you will stand, next election. Absolutely.
:32:09. > :32:19.You have spent a lot of time looking at the youth unemployment
:32:19. > :32:19.
:32:19. > :32:23.question, something that has been a long-standing quite crisis. Nobody
:32:23. > :32:30.has come up with an answer. truth is, the current government
:32:30. > :32:35.didn't invent this problem but have made it worse. Their flagship work
:32:35. > :32:42.programme helps one in 10 of the Million Youth unemployed. On that
:32:42. > :32:47.work programme, the success rate is about 20%. So, two in 100 are
:32:47. > :32:52.getting help from the flagship government programme. I chaired the
:32:52. > :32:58.commission. There is a structural element. As well as a cyclical
:32:58. > :33:04.element, it is partly about the recession. It is about education,
:33:04. > :33:13.motivation, opportunities, and the apprenticeship system doesn't even
:33:13. > :33:19.advertise. 75% in the increase of apprenticeships has gone to over 25.
:33:19. > :33:23.A lot of talk has focused on the granny tax, but there is a
:33:23. > :33:29.dangerous complacency about the young unemployed. Young people say
:33:29. > :33:35.to me, what hope have I got? That is a challenge to all of us in the
:33:35. > :33:39.political elite about what are you doing for the next generation? If
:33:39. > :33:44.you are unemployed for a few years as a youngster, the fact is you
:33:44. > :33:52.will earn less and work less for the rest of your life. If you were
:33:52. > :33:55.a government minister watching this, what is the next stage? There is a
:33:55. > :34:01.notion of compulsion, people should be obliged to go to work for
:34:01. > :34:09.nothing. If people are offered a job, that is right. But that is not
:34:09. > :34:14.the issue. 590 youngsters in South Shields looking for jobs. If I were
:34:14. > :34:19.a government minister, if my party was in government, even if you
:34:19. > :34:24.accepted the fiscal straitjacket the government has created, we
:34:25. > :34:28.could do so much more. We know a part-time job guarantee, which
:34:28. > :34:34.would pay the minimum wage and get young people into work and allow
:34:34. > :34:40.them to do job search on the side, would make a difference. It has a
:34:40. > :34:46.success rate of 50%. We have to get the apprenticeship system working
:34:46. > :34:51.for young people. The government have done something good, they are
:34:51. > :34:58.starting in April a subsidy scheme so 50,000 youngsters will get that.
:34:58. > :35:05.But the government's figures showed they expect figures to be going
:35:05. > :35:11.down by 2014. I say, spend on it now. What about withdrawing benefit,
:35:11. > :35:16.is that wrong? It is a contract. Young people aren't afraid of a
:35:16. > :35:26.contract. They say, don't give me responsibility if there is no
:35:26. > :35:33.opportunity. So, if they don't take it, and stay at home, you can take
:35:34. > :35:38.the benefits. The vast majority don't get benefits. 16 and 17 year-
:35:38. > :35:44.olds do get benefit. The idea you have this welfare state paying for
:35:44. > :35:48.the unemployed to live lives of luxury is absolute nonsense.
:35:48. > :35:54.would like to talk about foreign affairs. The idea get passionate
:35:54. > :35:59.about it. Going back, he did not seem to be somebody who wants to
:35:59. > :36:04.step away from British politics. The things which brought me into
:36:04. > :36:11.the Labour Party, a passion about the potential of this country,
:36:11. > :36:14.remained. I also have to recognise I must do that in a different way.
:36:14. > :36:22.I am learning and changing as a person. The world is being
:36:22. > :36:28.transformed by the minute. Two huge crisis you experienced in
:36:29. > :36:33.government which have not gone away, Afghanistan, and Iran. Afghanistan,
:36:33. > :36:38.after the terrible events, it is looking as if we are going to have
:36:38. > :36:43.to withdraw rather chaotically, different Western governments don't
:36:43. > :36:47.have the same timescale, the Taleban are going to come back.
:36:47. > :36:51.Everything you hoped in government is falling away. You are right to
:36:51. > :36:56.be worried that this will become the forgotten war, only in the
:36:56. > :37:01.headlines when there is terrible tragedy. And that the danger of a
:37:01. > :37:06.continued civil war which does damage to our secluded interests,
:37:06. > :37:10.our legacy of work, I fear things will get worse and not better.
:37:10. > :37:15.Changing course means putting centre-stage the political talks
:37:15. > :37:21.which are the only way to end this conflict. That can't be America or
:37:21. > :37:27.Britain. It has to be a United Nations Security Council sanctions
:37:27. > :37:32.mediator. People will say, didn't I here 10 days ago the Taleban have
:37:32. > :37:36.said they won't talk to the Americans. The point of an
:37:36. > :37:42.independent mediator drawn from the Muslim world is he would go around
:37:42. > :37:46.talking to all sides, the Afghan government, to us, to the different
:37:46. > :37:52.parts of the insurgency. There is only one way to end the war in
:37:53. > :37:58.Afghanistan, and that is all of the tribes in the political settlement,
:37:58. > :38:02.Al-Qaeda, out, and the neighbours onside and committed to stability.
:38:02. > :38:07.Is getting that process working more important than getting our
:38:07. > :38:11.troops out? They go together. The problem is the debate about the end
:38:11. > :38:17.date for combat is getting in the wake of the debate over the end
:38:17. > :38:23.strategy. It seems a strange way to fight a war, having an end date.
:38:23. > :38:28.The Taleban know that as well. There is unbelievable bravery and
:38:28. > :38:33.intelligence being shown by our troops, and a tactical gains. But
:38:33. > :38:38.it has to be a political strategy. Iran, something you are familiar
:38:38. > :38:42.with. We seem to be in a new phase of greater danger where the Israeli
:38:42. > :38:48.government is saying, there has been enough diplomacy, very soon
:38:48. > :38:54.they will have the bomb, and we will at if nobody else does. I see
:38:54. > :38:59.it fathered a fiddly. I wrote in December I was worried we were
:38:59. > :39:06.asleep and walking to war. That the drumbeat of war had started. What
:39:06. > :39:10.happened in Washington last month, in that meeting, was significant.
:39:10. > :39:15.Barack Obama took charge of the Iran dossier it and said, I am
:39:15. > :39:21.going to be clear, if Iran gets a bomb, I will take them out. Until
:39:21. > :39:27.that moment comes, I will make sure a political and diplomatic process
:39:27. > :39:32.sorts this out. It was a clear warning about his own position. The
:39:32. > :39:39.game has changed. The Israelis have been told, do not bomb. Rightly, in
:39:39. > :39:45.my view. The game has changed. We have to discuss what other
:39:45. > :39:50.conditions in which Iran might actually agree to a cessation of
:39:50. > :39:57.this military programme. There are conditions. We have to give them
:39:57. > :40:04.something? What is on the table is a civilian nuclear programme which
:40:04. > :40:09.can help their economy. If they feel the deal is humiliation, if
:40:09. > :40:14.they're giving in to the Americans, they will not accept it. In
:40:14. > :40:18.government, I used to say, stick to the nuclear programme, don't worry
:40:18. > :40:22.about this additional staff. Now, you need to have the additional
:40:22. > :40:28.role of Iran and the nuclear question on the table at the same
:40:28. > :40:35.time. Barack Obama has been clear, the
:40:35. > :40:45.red line is, weapons. The world should be clear, that is what
:40:45. > :40:46.
:40:46. > :40:50.America will deliver. And now to Double-Cross. Not a
:40:50. > :40:53.return to Labour politics, but the name of a secret World War Two
:40:54. > :40:57.committee. Early in the summer of 1944, the ferocious fight back to
:40:57. > :41:00.drive the Germans out of France began. D-Day, on 6th June, was make
:41:00. > :41:04.or break time for the Allies. Convincing Hitler that the Allied
:41:04. > :41:07.landings were going to take place on a different part of the
:41:07. > :41:11.coastline was a ruse that helped win the beaches, and then the war.
:41:11. > :41:14.Central to that masterful dupe was a group of double agents, the five
:41:14. > :41:17.D-Day spies, who were as eccentric as they were daring. Ben
:41:17. > :41:20.Macintyre's new book assesses their role, and also reveals for the
:41:20. > :41:29.first time a shadowy sixth spy whose courage and cunning really
:41:29. > :41:32.saved the Day itself. A fascinating piece of historical research here.
:41:32. > :41:36.Just start by giving us a sense of some of these extraordinary
:41:36. > :41:42.characters? Well, they were without doubt the
:41:42. > :41:50.oddest military unit ever assembled. Their code names give a flavour.
:41:50. > :41:58.Treasure, Brutus, Bronx. They included a Serbian playboy, a
:41:58. > :42:05.bisexual Peruvian girl called Elvira Chaudoir. Another was a
:42:05. > :42:12.highly strung Russian French woman. And in a failed Spanish chicken
:42:12. > :42:16.farmer, with a wild imagination. Exotic because they were the kind
:42:16. > :42:21.of characters on the fringe of continental Europe, able to go back
:42:21. > :42:26.and forward, be recruited by the German military intelligence.
:42:26. > :42:31.they had in common they had been initially recruited by the Germans.
:42:31. > :42:35.Then, were turned by British intelligence to work as double
:42:35. > :42:39.agents for us. I am not sure whether a particular kind of
:42:39. > :42:47.character is attracted to this world, or whether the world
:42:47. > :42:54.manufactures them. The crucial he wrote in your book is a man called
:42:54. > :43:00.Jebsen, a very slight figure. He is a figure we haven't heard about
:43:00. > :43:06.really before. Tell us a little? Jebsen is fascinating, a wealthy
:43:06. > :43:11.playboy, he was Danish by origin but German by citizenship. At the
:43:11. > :43:20.beginning of the war, he took a job, a senior job in German military
:43:20. > :43:27.intelligence. He was not an obvious recruit, pro-British, a fan of PG
:43:27. > :43:34.Wodehouse. He looked a little like a Germanic Bertie Worcester. But,
:43:34. > :43:39.he was recruited in 1943 by British intelligence, and he became our
:43:39. > :43:45.most senior spy within German intelligence. He began to produce
:43:45. > :43:50.brilliant information about secret weapons, military production. But,
:43:50. > :43:55.he was too good. He began to reveal the identities them of the spies
:43:55. > :44:01.but Germany believed it had operating in Britain. They had all
:44:01. > :44:05.been turned as well. When they were not picked up, Jebsen made the
:44:05. > :44:11.obvious deduction they must be double agents, so he was privy to
:44:11. > :44:16.the D-Day secret. Jebsen was a dodgy businessman, burning a
:44:16. > :44:21.forgery scam for some time. Just apo became very interested in him,
:44:21. > :44:27.and partly because they suspected he might defect. Six weeks before
:44:27. > :44:33.D-Day, he was kidnapped in a neutral Portugal, drugged, and put
:44:33. > :44:38.into a tin trunk, given it to Gestapo headquarters. For the
:44:38. > :44:43.following four weeks, MI5 was terrified that Jebsen might crack.
:44:43. > :44:48.Had he revealed the D-Day secret, which was to try to convince the
:44:48. > :44:52.Germans instead of Normandy being the land in point, the target was
:44:52. > :44:56.Calais, had he revealed every single spies in Britain was in fact
:44:56. > :45:01.a double agent, the Germans would have worked out exactly what was
:45:01. > :45:06.going on. Tens of thousands of lives could have been lost. But, he
:45:06. > :45:12.hung on. We don't know what happened to him. We do know a
:45:12. > :45:19.little bit more about the other characters. Elvira Chaudoir. She
:45:19. > :45:27.was the bisexual Peruvian. extraordinary. Her father had made
:45:27. > :45:32.a fortune, much of which she had lost at gambling tables. In 1943,
:45:32. > :45:38.in France, she was recruited by German intelligence. Came back to
:45:38. > :45:42.Britain, and turned. And spent the rest of the war writing letters in
:45:42. > :45:49.secret ink, describing conversations she had never
:45:49. > :45:54.actually had with Cabinet ministers. And fooling the Nazis. What I loved
:45:54. > :46:04.about her story was how she ends up. So many end up badly but she
:46:04. > :46:06.
:46:06. > :46:11.At the end of the war she retired and ran a souvenir shop in France.
:46:11. > :46:17.Shortly before she died, she ran out of money again, and MI5 sent
:46:17. > :46:22.her a cheque in recognition of what she had done during the war. Tidied
:46:22. > :46:28.her over for a happy few weeks in France. Thank you very much.
:46:29. > :46:32.Central to the coalition is the group sinisterly known as the Quad.
:46:32. > :46:39.Alongside the Prime Minister, the Chancellor and Nick Clegg, Danny
:46:39. > :46:49.Alexander sits on the group that runs the government. He was central
:46:49. > :46:50.
:46:50. > :46:55.to the decisions unveiled in the Budget. Welcome. The granny tax,
:46:55. > :46:59.so-called, was a Liberal-Democrat idea way back, are you happy to
:46:59. > :47:04.take ownership of that? The central story of this Budget are the
:47:04. > :47:09.massive tax cuts we are delivering, the largest tax cuts in a
:47:09. > :47:14.generation for people on middle and lower incomes. Of course I will
:47:14. > :47:18.take ownership of all the measures in his Budget. If we are addressing
:47:18. > :47:23.ourselves to the question of pensioners, I would say there are 5
:47:23. > :47:27.million pensioners in this country, and every single pensioner this
:47:27. > :47:32.year will benefit from the largest ever increase in the state pension.
:47:32. > :47:40.We announced we are moving towards a single tear pension over the next
:47:40. > :47:45.few years, another Liberal Democrats commitment. The net
:47:45. > :47:48.effect on these things, on pensioners, is positive and in the
:47:48. > :47:52.end we had to make some difficult decisions in this Budget because we
:47:52. > :47:58.had such a strong focus on delivering big tax cuts for the
:47:58. > :48:02.working people. And for the people at the top as well. No, you are
:48:02. > :48:09.wrong about that. Overall, the net effect of this Budget is to raise
:48:09. > :48:15.five times more from the wealthiest. Can I suggest to you gently you
:48:15. > :48:18.don't know that, this is guesswork about how individuals and their
:48:18. > :48:24.accountants will behave over the next few years. There is no where
:48:24. > :48:29.you can know how much money will be taken after the cut from 50p to 45p.
:48:29. > :48:39.Those figures are certified by the Independent office for budget
:48:39. > :48:40.
:48:40. > :48:45.responsibility. They are at estimate. The independent
:48:45. > :48:48.organisation have to certify the numbers in the Budget book. One of
:48:48. > :48:56.the things we are doing as a government, alongside cutting taxes
:48:56. > :49:00.for people on lower incomes, is cracking down on tax dodges. I
:49:00. > :49:03.think people I have spoken to think that the government which is
:49:03. > :49:09.finally getting tough on people who dodge stamp duty is a major step
:49:09. > :49:14.forward. Nobody really knows what will happen. This is a gamble based
:49:14. > :49:24.on how people are going to behave and how much tax they will pay.
:49:24. > :49:25.
:49:25. > :49:29.would say that we have had the expert at HMRC, the Office for
:49:29. > :49:35.budget responsibility, looking at the regional estimate of these
:49:35. > :49:41.measures. I think in the end, a budget that increases taxes on the
:49:41. > :49:51.wealthiest overall, it stresses the fact working people are under
:49:51. > :49:53.
:49:53. > :50:03.pressure at the moment. This government, we are doing our best
:50:03. > :50:03.
:50:03. > :50:06.to help people in this difficult time. What changed? What I always
:50:06. > :50:10.said is that now would not be the right time to be cutting the
:50:10. > :50:15.overall tax burden on the wealthiest, and this Budget is not.
:50:15. > :50:20.Through things like a tycoon tax, through the stamp duty reforms, we
:50:20. > :50:27.are effectively introducing a mansion tax on stamp duty dodgers.
:50:27. > :50:33.We have a new anti-abuse rule. We are taking changes which will raise
:50:33. > :50:39.more overall from the wealthiest. In the context of that, why were
:50:39. > :50:45.you persuaded that the 50 pence rate should be reduced to 45p?
:50:45. > :50:49.the context of budget discussions, when we set out our main priority
:50:49. > :50:53.from the Liberal Democrats point of view going further and faster,
:50:53. > :50:57.delivering the largest tax cut for a long time, we were persuaded in
:50:57. > :51:01.the context of an overall package of measures on the wealthy which
:51:01. > :51:08.raises five times more, when we looked at the independent
:51:08. > :51:13.assessment which the HMRC had done, that actually said... So you are
:51:13. > :51:19.sitting around the table, we will accept that if you will accept that.
:51:19. > :51:22.It is a straightforward deal? discovered when this work was done
:51:22. > :51:28.that far from the promised millions Labour had said we would get from
:51:28. > :51:33.this 50p rate emerging, it showed it was not a tax that was working.
:51:33. > :51:37.We have tried to replace that tax with a number of taxes that well-
:51:37. > :51:43.worked, getting money from the wealthiest. There is also a
:51:43. > :51:48.philosophical shift in the tax system, where we want to reduce tax
:51:48. > :51:53.on people with lower incomes. That is a good direction for the tax
:51:53. > :51:59.policy to go in, I think. If that is what happens, but nobody really
:51:59. > :52:04.knows. Can I ask again about the granny tax changes because you can
:52:04. > :52:07.defend them as a simplification, anomalous this was a major change
:52:07. > :52:12.in the Budget which was not signalled clearly in the Budget
:52:12. > :52:19.speech itself. A lot of the anger in the press afterwards was that
:52:19. > :52:23.there was a sense you wanted to hoodwink people. The Chancellor
:52:23. > :52:28.signalled clearly we would be doing this. It is a difficult choice in
:52:28. > :52:33.this Budget. Were you happy with the way it was presented? At the
:52:34. > :52:40.lewdly. It is a change that is justified. I don't see why someone
:52:40. > :52:44.who is working at age 26 should have the same allowance as a
:52:44. > :52:49.pensioner. We are increasing the tax threshold so quickly, and the
:52:49. > :52:54.other measures such as the largest ever increase in the state pension,
:52:54. > :52:57.they are quite rightly delivering benefits to pensioners. Perhaps
:52:57. > :53:02.many pensioners would say the answer is because they have been
:53:02. > :53:06.dealing with a very difficult climate when it comes to interest
:53:06. > :53:10.rates and investments are the cost of living shooting up. It may be
:53:10. > :53:15.that the pension has gone up to cover the cost of living increases
:53:15. > :53:18.but a lot of people are having a really hard time on low incomes and
:53:18. > :53:24.they did not expect a budget for fairness was going to hit them with
:53:24. > :53:29.this. There are an awful lot of people having a tough time right
:53:29. > :53:33.across the population. The poorest 50% of pensioners do not pay income
:53:33. > :53:40.tax at all so they will be unaffected. By moving to a triple
:53:40. > :53:44.lock, we are making sure that the arrangements about the basic state
:53:44. > :53:50.pension are more generous than they were under the previous government.
:53:50. > :53:55.Do you regret the serial leaking of aspect of this Budget? In a
:53:55. > :54:00.coalition government there will be debate, publicly, about the nature
:54:00. > :54:08.of some of these measures. We were very explicit about the priority we
:54:08. > :54:13.attached to going further and faster about the income tax cuts,
:54:13. > :54:17.as Liberal Democrats. He your party was blamed, it was even said George
:54:17. > :54:22.Osborne had to ask Liberal Democrats aides to leave the room
:54:22. > :54:27.because he assumed they would go straight to the papers. I have no
:54:27. > :54:33.idea where these things came from. Most of these discussions were in
:54:33. > :54:38.the court that you refer to, in the four of us plus one Treasury
:54:38. > :54:42.official so that is not true. In the end, this country was very
:54:42. > :54:45.poorly served over the last 30 years by a previous government
:54:45. > :54:49.which obsessed every day about what was in the headlines and didn't
:54:49. > :54:53.think about what was right for the country. We spend our time thinking
:54:53. > :54:57.about what is right for the country, and that is what will stand the
:54:57. > :55:02.test of time. What do you make of this extraordinary story about
:55:02. > :55:10.Conservative treasurer with a tariff, offering access to David
:55:10. > :55:13.Cameron at Chequers? For it is utterly disgraceful. As the prime
:55:14. > :55:19.minister has said, there is no place for this one acceptable
:55:20. > :55:23.behaviour. This makes the case for reforming the system of party
:55:23. > :55:28.funding in this country even stronger. No political party has
:55:28. > :55:33.been without its problems in relation to this issue. In the
:55:33. > :55:37.coming weeks, we will be getting round the table to discuss how we
:55:37. > :55:42.can change the way party funding works to get the big money out of
:55:42. > :55:46.politics. When the Quad sits down next time, what will you be saying?
:55:46. > :55:49.This is a matter that is being discussed in the government over
:55:49. > :55:54.many weeks, something we were committed to in our coalition
:55:54. > :55:59.agreement, and Nick Clegg is taking forward to make sure we bring
:55:59. > :56:05.reforms to our political system which means this perception of
:56:05. > :56:10.people that make large donations, whether they are from trade unions,
:56:10. > :56:12.that those people should not have excessive influence. Are you sure
:56:12. > :56:18.you will be able to come forward with concrete clear proposals you
:56:18. > :56:24.can get through the House of Commons? All parties have nominated
:56:24. > :56:31.people to take part in this process. There will be a short sharp series
:56:31. > :56:34.of discussions, and I am hopeful that will yield proposals. These
:56:34. > :56:40.headlines show the necessity of having reforms to the party funding
:56:40. > :56:45.system to deal with this taint that donors might be able to influence.
:56:45. > :56:51.Hallowed do you think the cap could be? The committee on public funding
:56:51. > :56:54.were talking about �10,000. Where would you like to see it? That is
:56:54. > :56:59.something I would like to see coming out of these discussions.
:56:59. > :57:04.The issue that David Miliband raised about how much the parties
:57:04. > :57:09.spend is important to look at, as is the question of the cap on
:57:09. > :57:13.donations. All parties have an interest in sorting this out. There
:57:13. > :57:16.is no prospect of donors influencing public policy but we
:57:16. > :57:23.have to make sure the system does not allow that perception to arise
:57:23. > :57:28.either. Thank you. Now the news headlines.
:57:28. > :57:32.The Conservative's chief fundraiser has resigned after he was secretly
:57:32. > :57:38.filmed offering access to the Prime Minister in exchange for a
:57:38. > :57:43.financial donation. Peter Cruddas made the comments, but he has
:57:43. > :57:47.described his actions as bluster and regretted any impression of
:57:47. > :57:51.propriety. Danny Alexander said the revelations were utterly
:57:51. > :57:55.disgraceful. The former Labour foreign secretary David Miliband
:57:55. > :58:03.said there had been of the lowering of the crucial distinction between
:58:03. > :58:07.party and government. The idea that policy is for sale is grotesque. I
:58:07. > :58:12.think David Cameron will have to do publish the list of policies that
:58:12. > :58:16.have been sent from these dinners and have been sent to this David
:58:16. > :58:22.Cameron committee or even the Cabinet committee, this number 10
:58:22. > :58:30.committee that has been advertised. I say he should do it now. The next
:58:30. > :58:35.news on BBC One is at 12 o'clock. Let's have a look at what is coming
:58:35. > :58:45.up after this programme. In the week a judge stands down
:58:45. > :58:46.
:58:46. > :58:50.majora for one refusing to reveal her face, we ask about this. We
:58:50. > :58:55.look at whether football is doing enough, and if we need religion to
:58:55. > :59:01.create a moral society. A few hefty questions. I'm afraid
:59:01. > :59:04.that is all we have got time for. Next week I will be speaking to the