:00:41. > :00:45.Good morning. Just something I'd really like to
:00:45. > :00:51.say before we get going. 100 years ago today, the Titanic sank,
:00:51. > :00:56.killing more than 1500 people. We've had films, mini-series,
:00:56. > :01:01.cruises. We've been treating it like a national celebration. Will
:01:01. > :01:04.we doing this for fatal air crashes? I may be completely alone
:01:04. > :01:07.in this but I think it's been sordid and tasteless and dull and I
:01:07. > :01:14.hope after today we hear nothing more about this sad story except
:01:14. > :01:17.from the driest of dry historians. Got that off my chest, now, our
:01:17. > :01:20.trio with brio to take us through the papers today. Deputy editor of
:01:20. > :01:29.The Times, Keith Blackmore. Europe editor of Time magazine, Catherine
:01:30. > :01:35.Mayer. And the Tory backbench MP, David Davis.
:01:35. > :01:40.Life at the top is never easy. The BBC is looking for a new boss and
:01:40. > :01:44.its chairman says he wants someone with the wisdom of Aristotle and
:01:44. > :01:49.the striking partner of Wayne Rooney. David Cameron will wish he
:01:49. > :01:55.had a few like that in his cabinet after another week of budget revolt
:01:55. > :02:01.us. But Labour in the Bradford by- election have had a torrid time. If
:02:01. > :02:08.the coalition is doing so badly, why aren't they more popular? Ed
:02:08. > :02:13.Miliband joins me live. Rows over new powers to snoop on charities in
:02:13. > :02:18.the revolt over tax for charities with Paddy Ashdown. He says the
:02:18. > :02:23.Home Secretary is treating us like a nation of suspects. The Lion King
:02:23. > :02:32.is just one of the worldwide hits by Tim Rice, who picks up another
:02:32. > :02:42.of Ward for his mantelpiece. -- a world.
:02:42. > :02:47.
:02:47. > :02:53.Plus, to wake us all up come at the end a blast of something different.
:02:53. > :02:57.That is the Indian music maestro, Raghu Dixit, who sings in the
:02:57. > :03:04.studio. First the news. Good morning. There is pressure on
:03:04. > :03:07.the Government to rethink its plans on charitable donations. The Sunday
:03:07. > :03:14.Times has said the move will put people off giving large sums of
:03:14. > :03:18.money to good causes. But a letter by 40 philanthropists to the
:03:18. > :03:23.Telegraph slams the proposals. The body that represents every
:03:23. > :03:28.doctor in the UK has criticised its strategy on obesity. It says
:03:28. > :03:33.current measures on obesity do not go far enough. It says it more
:03:33. > :03:40.advertising may be needed to prevent a public health crisis.
:03:40. > :03:45.Bigger, heavier, fatter. Almost one in every four adults in the UK is
:03:45. > :03:50.now obese. Are ballooning waist lines have been labelled the single,
:03:50. > :03:55.biggest threat to public health. 21 medical organisations representing
:03:55. > :04:00.more than 2000 doctors have come together to figure out what needs
:04:00. > :04:04.to be done. There will start with a three-month review on different
:04:04. > :04:09.ways to beat the bulge, from introducing fact taxes the to
:04:09. > :04:14.promoting exercise. We will look at individual pet behaviour which is
:04:14. > :04:20.eating less and exercise more. Look at what treatments work, there is
:04:20. > :04:25.certainly a place for surgery. But look at what society can do -
:04:25. > :04:33.advertising, sponsorship, possibly taxation. Leaders say tackling
:04:33. > :04:40.obesity will need measures as tough as those to fight smoking. An
:04:40. > :04:45.attack and junk food advertising and things like letting Coca-Cola
:04:45. > :04:49.and McDonald's sponsor the 20 told Olympics sent the wrong message.
:04:49. > :04:55.Findings will be sent to politicians, doctors and the public
:04:55. > :05:02.later this year. This time, doctors say they are determined not to let
:05:02. > :05:05.their findings sit on a shelf, gathering dust.
:05:05. > :05:09.United Nations Security Council has agreed to the immediate deployment
:05:09. > :05:14.to Syria, of a small team of observers to monitor a ceasefire
:05:14. > :05:17.which appears to be in danger of collapsing. Kofi Annan has welcomed
:05:17. > :05:22.the decision and it is the first time all five permanent members
:05:22. > :05:26.have agreed on a resolution aimed at ending the violence. Steelmaking
:05:26. > :05:32.is expected to return to one of Britain's biggest plants this week,
:05:32. > :05:37.more than two years after production stock. The furnace is
:05:37. > :05:40.being relit to date on Teesside. 1,700 people are already employed
:05:40. > :05:44.on the site and the total is expected to rise.
:05:44. > :05:51.Prayers have been said at the site in the Atlantic Ocean weather
:05:51. > :05:55.Titanic sank a century ago. A memorial service was held on the
:05:55. > :05:58.Balmoral which has been retracing the route of the Titanic. Around 50
:05:58. > :06:02.of the passengers on the ship have a direct family connection to the
:06:02. > :06:06.sinking. That's all from me, I will be back
:06:06. > :06:12.just before 10 am with the headlines.
:06:12. > :06:17.Now to the front pages as usual. The Independent on Sunday, we hear
:06:17. > :06:21.about the nanny state. Nick Clegg is going to recruit 65,000 state
:06:21. > :06:26.nannies. The Sunday Telegraph is announcing this great charity row
:06:26. > :06:32.we will be talking about, his going to result in a Government retreat.
:06:32. > :06:37.The Mail on Sunday, has a fascinating account that some of
:06:37. > :06:43.the papers have similar ones, of the extraordinary story of the
:06:43. > :06:51.Briton murdered in China. It suggests he was murdered by a
:06:51. > :06:57.leading politician's wife, who has been arrested. The Sunday Express,
:06:57. > :07:05.the Titanic souvenir magazine. But also the closure of Remploy
:07:05. > :07:11.factories to employ a lot of disabled people. And the Sun, has
:07:11. > :07:17.Danni Minogue. Finally we have the Sunday Times, again on the
:07:17. > :07:23.charity's issue, the Tories turned on George Osborne. Ba three guest
:07:23. > :07:28.paper reviewers and we will start with Catherine Mayer. You have
:07:28. > :07:37.picked up one of the bigger stories in all of the papers? We have to
:07:37. > :07:42.look at this China story. There are so many things interesting about it.
:07:42. > :07:48.I would say there is probably a Chinese proverb about the strewth
:07:48. > :07:53.being stranger than fiction. -- truth. We are looking at the story
:07:53. > :07:58.of Neil Heywood he was found in November, dead in a hotel room.
:07:58. > :08:02.business man who has been in China for a long time. To begin with,
:08:02. > :08:07.nine of the Chinese authorities or the British authorities seem to
:08:07. > :08:13.take seriously, the concerned there was something fishy about his death.
:08:13. > :08:18.The original cause of death was given as too much alcohol. Take us
:08:18. > :08:27.through what the paper is saying? will also tell you what the papers
:08:27. > :08:31.are not saying. We are looking at the Mail. They have had a lot of
:08:31. > :08:37.people trying to research this story. They don't even know which
:08:37. > :08:42.hotel room he was found in. None of the papers and know this. What ever
:08:42. > :08:45.happened, there was such speed in terms of trying to brush this story
:08:45. > :08:50.under the carpet, there was pressure to have him cremated
:08:50. > :08:58.quickly. The hotel records have gone, people have been going door
:08:58. > :09:04.to door to these hotels. What is now emerging is according, the
:09:04. > :09:07.sources are a bit of a, but there is a Chinese website that is an
:09:07. > :09:12.anti-communist website and is coming out with a lot of this.
:09:12. > :09:16.According to them he was poisoned by cyanide. Also allegations he
:09:16. > :09:26.might have been having an affair with the wife of a key official. He
:09:26. > :09:34.was linked it to the key official Gu Kalai. The reason this matters
:09:34. > :09:40.is this isn't just a social, sexy story, it is China getting the new
:09:40. > :09:44.regime in place and it looked like an orderly transition. Had there
:09:44. > :09:51.not been this regime change about to happen - which had been planned
:09:51. > :09:55.for years - we wouldn't have known about this. The Times, has been
:09:56. > :10:01.leading with his story for quite a few days now. You have been pushing
:10:01. > :10:06.this and pushing this. Presumably you knew there was more to this
:10:06. > :10:15.than met the eye? I am sure the papers have things they still feel
:10:15. > :10:20.they can print. You don't want to go out too far with this. We are
:10:20. > :10:26.still wondering why he died. There are plenty of theories about that
:10:26. > :10:32.and as soon as someone has that, it will be a big moment. Let's move on
:10:32. > :10:38.to the Grand National. You are a sports editor, we have had two
:10:38. > :10:44.horses dying this time. It has become an annual toll hasn't it?
:10:44. > :10:49.What struck me about this race, it is the last one at a 52 years the
:10:49. > :10:53.BBC have done. It has become a feature of British life. For the
:10:53. > :10:59.final race, they have this wonderful finish which could not be
:10:59. > :11:05.closer, as the Sunday Times and many other papers have demonstrated.
:11:05. > :11:09.It was an extraordinary race, but all of the talk is going to be over
:11:09. > :11:18.the two horses that died. I was very struck by Clare Balding, who
:11:18. > :11:23.is a brilliant reporter, she said, as you probably know synchronise
:11:23. > :11:28.dislodged its rider, Tony McCoy, before the race started. When he
:11:28. > :11:34.took the horse up to the fence, Clare Balding said, the horse does
:11:34. > :11:38.not look up for it. Which struck me as a very sound judgment. She
:11:38. > :11:44.immediately backtracked, because she realised it was a dangerous
:11:44. > :11:49.remark. The Sun has picked it up. The race proceeded, and in due
:11:49. > :11:54.course, synchronised was killed. The horse, yet again knocked off
:11:54. > :11:59.his rider but jumped the next five fences on his own before breaking
:11:59. > :12:03.his leg. It is a very poignant moment. It tells you something
:12:03. > :12:09.about the dangers of the fences and the instinct of the animal, to
:12:09. > :12:18.carry on without the rider. Desperate to get over them.
:12:18. > :12:24.David, the political story of the day. It is in every paper. It
:12:24. > :12:30.should be everybody turns on Osborne over tax. Never take on the
:12:30. > :12:34.Catholic Church, the NUM, they should have added Chadha Tees --
:12:34. > :12:39.charities to that. Everybody is supporting charities. It is a
:12:39. > :12:44.mistake, not the way to deal with the sort of problems you do get
:12:44. > :12:49.with bogus charities. Do you think George Osborne had any idea what he
:12:49. > :12:54.was getting himself into when he passed this? Presumably it was put
:12:54. > :13:04.in front of him by officials. of the things about the modern
:13:04. > :13:05.
:13:05. > :13:11.budget process, lots of all auctions go on before. Parties
:13:11. > :13:16.harvest all the popular bits first, and now all the unpopular Brits are
:13:16. > :13:21.coming out. The destruction that did not help him in assessing some
:13:21. > :13:30.of the probability of these taxes. If you turn to the Sunday Telegraph,
:13:30. > :13:33.they are saying, that it is dead. This tax change. The Sunday
:13:33. > :13:38.Telegraph has a relationship with the Tory party and you would expect
:13:38. > :13:46.them probably to get it right. you think it is probably the case?
:13:46. > :13:51.They will find another way of doing it. Mout of 160,000 charities, the
:13:51. > :13:58.Revenue challenged 100. What will happen is they will change the way
:13:58. > :14:04.they assess the charities, not the tax. Where does this leave the Big
:14:04. > :14:08.Society idea? One of the weaknesses, it seems to be an assault on the
:14:08. > :14:15.Big Society idea. Clearly, charities have a big part in the
:14:15. > :14:20.Big Society. Some of the big charities depend on huge donations
:14:20. > :14:28.from very wealthy people. For most people, this is not tax evasion. It
:14:28. > :14:33.may be tax reduction, it is a good cause. What has happened over the
:14:33. > :14:43.last couple of weeks, David? There has been this, the snooping thing,
:14:43. > :14:48.pasties, petrol, a series of what appeared to be pitfalls? On the
:14:48. > :14:54.snooper Charter, were the Government is planned to follow
:14:54. > :14:58.everybody's telephone calls. Not the content, but he you call. You
:14:58. > :15:03.see this harvesting going on again. Nick Clegg chaired the committee
:15:03. > :15:08.that puts on these authoritarian ideas through, the snoopers charter
:15:08. > :15:12.and secret trials. Now he is suddenly saying I want to do
:15:12. > :15:16.something different. You are seeing a change in the relationship inside
:15:16. > :15:19.Government. At the washing coalitions on the Continent, you
:15:19. > :15:23.always see the small party manoeuvring to get the credit and
:15:23. > :15:29.leave the big party with the problem. It is rooted in the nature
:15:29. > :15:32.of coalition Government? Partly that, partly unforced errors, and a
:15:32. > :15:37.change in the relationship between the press and the Government, which
:15:37. > :15:47.has also suddenly broken down. Three things have led to long-term
:15:47. > :15:48.
:15:48. > :15:54.You've taken... The other big story from the States is that Mitt Romney
:15:54. > :16:00.is now that Republican candidate. It is not over yet, but it is over.
:16:00. > :16:04.We can assume the election will be Mitt Romney against Obama, which is
:16:04. > :16:09.what everybody had been assuming all along until the Tea Party
:16:09. > :16:13.through people up. I find it very interesting. This piece is saying
:16:13. > :16:18.only a fool would count out Romney and that is right, but not for
:16:18. > :16:26.these reasons. It goes back to what David was saying with some of
:16:26. > :16:30.Cameron's problems. The real problem room has his authenticity.
:16:30. > :16:36.There are similarities between them. The sense they belong to an elite,
:16:36. > :16:41.face say what people want them to save rather than what they believe.
:16:41. > :16:47.Cameron is quite good at dealing with people, however, where Romany
:16:47. > :16:52.seems to record almost everybody as a complete conundrum. -- from the.
:16:52. > :16:56.Strange sayings he keeps coming out with. It is a problem. It is. The
:16:56. > :17:02.worst problem during his campaign was when one of his advisers
:17:02. > :17:10.described him as like a lecture sketch. Something which you shake
:17:10. > :17:15.and it loses its delineation again. The idea that he is this blank that
:17:15. > :17:21.you can project on to is a big problem. Obviously, however, Obama
:17:21. > :17:26.has huge problems. This piece is right in the sense that only a fool
:17:26. > :17:30.would discount Romany's chances. You have a David Hockney story
:17:30. > :17:36.about smoking. I would like to get to the Robin Gibb story as well. A
:17:36. > :17:42.lot of death in the papers, to put it bluntly at the moment. That
:17:42. > :17:51.iconic man from the Bee Gees is probably on his way out. I think so.
:17:51. > :17:57.He is in a coma. This is his second serious... The second time he has
:17:57. > :18:01.been close to death. We don't talk much about death in the papers. It
:18:01. > :18:06.is a depressing subject and yet it is something that is part of
:18:06. > :18:09.everybody's life. You are very heavily involved in editing a book
:18:09. > :18:14.by Philip Gould, who viewers may remember gave an interview shortly
:18:14. > :18:18.before he died, about how to die. The right way to to approach death.
:18:18. > :18:23.The very moving piece by his daughter in the Times Magazine
:18:23. > :18:31.yesterday. Philip wrote a series of articles for the Times last year
:18:31. > :18:39.about his battle, to use a bad word, with cancer. They were very well
:18:39. > :18:43.received. It also seemed to be cruelly true throughout his illness,
:18:43. > :18:48.every time he got a prognosis, it would turn out that he would get
:18:48. > :18:53.the bad end of it, the bad verdict. When he was given a period to live,
:18:53. > :19:03.it was always the short end. He decided that he wanted to convert
:19:03. > :19:06.
:19:06. > :19:11.his cancer series into a book about dying. Lessons from the death.
:19:11. > :19:16.described it to somebody the other day and they said, God, is it a
:19:16. > :19:20.horror story? I said no, it is a story which will encourage the
:19:20. > :19:25.debate you are talking about. It should encourage people to face
:19:25. > :19:28.death and be less afraid of it. had a very moving interview with
:19:28. > :19:33.him last September and it seemed to me to be all about having control
:19:33. > :19:38.and dignity and understanding what is going on and not so rendering.
:19:38. > :19:42.Yes. He got himself into a very good state of doubt it and just
:19:42. > :19:46.before he died he had a wobble. When he was taken to hospital for
:19:46. > :19:50.what turned out to be the final time, it looked as if he might die
:19:50. > :19:58.by drowning, which is the way his father died and he had always
:19:58. > :20:03.feared. His composure vanished for a second. But fortunately he kept
:20:03. > :20:08.going and he had three days in which he completely recomposed
:20:08. > :20:14.himself, dictated a great deal of material in the book... Sounds like
:20:14. > :20:22.a story of courage. Proper courage. Tories like to talk about the Nani
:20:22. > :20:29.state. Mr Clegg has declared it official. What this is about his
:20:29. > :20:34.clade arguing for nannies to come and help youngsters from the age of
:20:34. > :20:39.two onwards. The idea that the course of your life is set for
:20:39. > :20:44.every very early. This is part of his social mobility thing. I don't
:20:44. > :20:49.think it will work because it would cost a fortune. The state is not a
:20:49. > :20:56.very good parent. In another article in the Sunday Times, it
:20:56. > :21:00.talks about the care home losing a child 130 times. In other words,
:21:00. > :21:10.bringing in 65,000 nannies might actually make it worse. All right.
:21:10. > :21:10.
:21:10. > :21:14.One last story each. I'm going to go with the state... The obesity
:21:14. > :21:18.Sturge. Doctors saying the state needs to do more, and I agree, but
:21:18. > :21:22.not in terms of telling individuals what to do, but in terms of
:21:22. > :21:26.tackling big food. Our life expectancies are being radically
:21:26. > :21:32.shortened because we are in thrall to big food and we eat absolute
:21:32. > :21:37.rubbish. Taxing it? Taking more money from the poor? But the
:21:37. > :21:41.problem is that the poor have less life expectancy than the wealthy
:21:41. > :21:46.because we have a system where it is cheaper to eat badly than it is
:21:46. > :21:53.to eat well. It costs more to have fresh foods and processed food.
:21:53. > :22:01.That is crazy. We are going to finish with a couple of light ones,
:22:01. > :22:05.I hope. Simon Cowell. His programme is not doing as well as it might do,
:22:05. > :22:12.and we surprise he had a wild affair. He is claiming to have an
:22:12. > :22:16.affair. This is a very big exclusive book deal done with the
:22:16. > :22:22.author Tom Bower, whose books are hard hitting investigative affairs
:22:22. > :22:32.normally. Of major world figures. And now Simon Cowell. The one fact
:22:32. > :22:34.
:22:34. > :22:41.it did seem to reveal is that... He has got a strange sense of romance.
:22:41. > :22:46.I had a crush on her, sexy clothes and it was genuine love. All right.
:22:46. > :22:49.Thank you very much for that. Some glorious spring sunshine in
:22:49. > :22:52.the south yesterday. It's a wonderful time of year, with
:22:52. > :22:55.everything budding and bursting and a haze of green - chilly, though,
:22:55. > :22:58.in many places. So what can we all in many places. So what can we all
:22:58. > :23:01.expect for the next 24 hours? Chris Fawkes is in the BBC weather centre
:23:01. > :23:06.and has the answers. Those plants with blossoms on could
:23:06. > :23:12.be damaged by some night-time frost tonight. Today, sunny spells for
:23:12. > :23:18.most of us. A few showers around, but not as many as recently. The
:23:18. > :23:23.lion's share of the showers today will be in eastern areas. Most of
:23:23. > :23:27.the show was will be light. The vast majority of us will have a dry
:23:27. > :23:32.day with sunshine. Highs of 12 Celsius but feeling chilly thanks
:23:32. > :23:37.to a cold northerly breeze. Tonight, that cloud will melt away with
:23:37. > :23:43.light winds. The cold and frosty night, even in towns and cities. In
:23:43. > :23:47.the countryside, minus four is on the cards. It should be frost-free
:23:47. > :23:52.for Northern Ireland. The thicker cloud will bring in some patchy
:23:52. > :23:58.rain in the afternoon. Towards the West, a glorious start to the day
:23:58. > :24:01.with a little cloud developing, but most places staying dry. Monday
:24:02. > :24:05.night and into Tuesday, we will see low-pressure bring in a band of
:24:05. > :24:09.heavy rain across the country. Snow for a time in the Scottish
:24:09. > :24:14.mountains. As the rain clears on Tuesday, it will be followed by
:24:14. > :24:17.sunshine and blustery showers. Temperatures of around 13 Celsius.
:24:17. > :24:20.This swirly pattern is characteristic of slope -- low-
:24:20. > :24:23.characteristic of slope -- low- pressure, which will be slow and
:24:23. > :24:25.whether -- slow-moving at the weekend.
:24:25. > :24:29.I'm not sure we like swirly patterns!
:24:29. > :24:32.And so life inside the coalition, which has been a tad tetchy of late,
:24:32. > :24:35.with some dropped balls, leaks and bleats. It was the Liberal
:24:35. > :24:38.Democrats in the House of lords who forced the Government to change
:24:38. > :24:41.tack on health reform and now two other key pieces of proposed
:24:41. > :24:43.legislation are under attack - new restrictions on tax relief for big
:24:43. > :24:46.charity donations and the new powers for security services to
:24:46. > :24:56.monitor emails and text messages. Paddy Ashdown helped broker the
:24:56. > :24:57.
:24:57. > :25:02.original Tory-Lib Dem deal. Welcome. Can I ask first of all
:25:02. > :25:07.about your current expectations and feelings on this new surveillance
:25:07. > :25:12.package of measures? You did say in an article this week that you
:25:12. > :25:18.thought this was turning us into a nation of suspects. How seriously
:25:18. > :25:23.do you take these measures? Good morning, Andrew. The people who
:25:23. > :25:27.turned us into a nation of suspects were Labour, who we introduced a
:25:27. > :25:32.vast pond into which the security services and the state could fish
:25:32. > :25:36.without any controls. Thanks to Labour's proposals, the government
:25:36. > :25:40.now has a right to know and can demand access to your telephone
:25:40. > :25:45.records, about who you spoke to for the last year, whenever they wish,
:25:45. > :25:49.without constraint. There's a problem and then there are some
:25:50. > :25:54.principles we have to observe. The problem is that it has always been
:25:54. > :26:00.accepted, and I accept it, that the state has a right to monitor the
:26:00. > :26:03.communications of its citizens where there is a real case that
:26:03. > :26:07.there is a serious crime being committed or some threat to the
:26:07. > :26:10.security of the state. The principle is that that is always
:26:10. > :26:15.done on an individual basis, politically or judicially
:26:15. > :26:20.controlled, and where there is good evidence to support her case. We
:26:20. > :26:26.now have a situation where proposals put in by Labour, which
:26:26. > :26:30.we opposed, are about to be expanded. How do we deal with that?
:26:30. > :26:36.There's a need to expand it because the criminals and terrorists now
:26:36. > :26:40.have access to new mechanisms of communication which can't be
:26:40. > :26:44.adequately monitored. There is a solution to this problem, which is
:26:45. > :26:48.to bring the communications interception legislation up to date
:26:48. > :26:54.so that we are able to monitor those who are threatening the
:26:54. > :26:58.security of the state, but make it subject to individual monitoring,
:26:58. > :27:07.applied for by the security services on the basis of evidence
:27:07. > :27:11.and politically controlled. So if that doesn't happen, if these
:27:11. > :27:17.proposals for general fishing expeditions in these new areas go
:27:17. > :27:24.forward, will you try to stop it in the House of Lords? Hears the basic
:27:24. > :27:28.point. -- heroes. You can't create a nation of suspects. You can't
:27:28. > :27:31.create a fishing pool into which the security services have a right
:27:32. > :27:36.to intervene where every it feels like and subject to no controls
:27:36. > :27:42.whatsoever. If it comes forward in that form, and my guess is it will
:27:42. > :27:46.not, but that is not something the Lib Dems will find acceptable. We
:27:46. > :27:49.opposed Labour's propositions, we are not likely to go ahead with an
:27:49. > :27:53.expansion of the proposition we didn't like in the first place. But
:27:53. > :27:57.if this is going to come forward to say we will deal with the new means
:27:57. > :28:01.of communications, but we will make it subject to the basic principles,
:28:01. > :28:06.individually based, politically and judicially controlled, evidence-
:28:06. > :28:11.based, that is a sensible way forward. You would expect these
:28:11. > :28:15.changes before the Queen's Speech? Can you also reflect on the fact
:28:15. > :28:22.that it was Nick Clegg who was sitting in charge of the committee
:28:22. > :28:25.that agreed this? Your own leader. I heard David Davies say that. Not
:28:25. > :28:29.for the first time, he is completely wrong. What happened was
:28:29. > :28:34.that the committee in which Nick Clegg sits was brought the problem
:28:34. > :28:39.and Nick Clegg said go ahead, let's come up with proposals to do with
:28:39. > :28:43.that problem. But none of those proposals have yet come forward.
:28:43. > :28:46.There has been no sight of a detailed proposal. It is right that
:28:46. > :28:50.he should say there's a problem, let's find a way to deal with it,
:28:50. > :28:55.but it isn't also right to say that they should stick to the principles
:28:55. > :28:59.that Lib Dems believe in. There appears to be another major retreat
:28:59. > :29:05.going on over the tax treatment of rich individuals giving money to
:29:05. > :29:11.charities. Is that something you would welcome? A mistake that needs
:29:11. > :29:15.to be unwound. Let's say there is a certain period of stumble for to
:29:15. > :29:21.this on behalf of the government, chiefly on the conservative side.
:29:21. > :29:24.There's a problem. It is simply not open to the kind of simplistic
:29:24. > :29:28.solution that Labour grabs hold of for opportune estate reasons and I
:29:28. > :29:33.was surprised to hear David Davies referred to it as well. I'm
:29:33. > :29:37.President of UNICEF UK, I know exactly how these are hitting
:29:37. > :29:41.serious big and small charities, I know the consequences. But let's
:29:41. > :29:45.recognise there is a problem. What is the government trying to do?
:29:45. > :29:52.Trying to make sure the rich pay their taxes. Just imagine, Andrew,
:29:52. > :29:57.for a moment, that everybody did this. Nobody said -- people said I
:29:57. > :30:02.will contribute to a charity of my choice. No taxes, no hospitals, no
:30:02. > :30:05.schools, and the welfare. There's a sensible balance to be struck. If
:30:05. > :30:09.the government has to read calibrate, a retreat if you like,
:30:09. > :30:12.in order to find that sensible balance, it is right and proper
:30:12. > :30:16.that they should do so it and they have already said they will go into
:30:16. > :30:20.a period of consultation. I'm sure a sensible balance can be found.
:30:21. > :30:24.Let's not pretend there isn't a problem. If some of the rich are
:30:24. > :30:28.dodging their income tax by putting the money into charities, the
:30:28. > :30:33.people who pay for that other poor, schools, hospitals, armed services.
:30:33. > :30:37.We want people to pay taxes, we don't want to kill off charity. The
:30:37. > :30:41.idea that you can allow people to sideline money that they should be
:30:42. > :30:51.put into our taxes, to the charity about it -- their choice, is
:30:52. > :30:52.
:30:52. > :30:57.In the first phase of this coalition Government, a lot of
:30:57. > :31:03.people thought the Liberal Democrat's personality was being
:31:03. > :31:08.submerged by the bigger party. That is not happening at the moment. Do
:31:08. > :31:15.you feel you are into a different phase of this coalition Government,
:31:15. > :31:20.were the party is clear in its profile? I think the Liberal
:31:20. > :31:24.Democrats will prosper to the extent we are able to show we can
:31:24. > :31:30.take the hard knocks of governing Britain at a very difficult time,
:31:30. > :31:34.as a result of the economic crisis left by the last Government. In the
:31:34. > :31:38.end that is what will matter. Whilst a ring that we have to show
:31:39. > :31:42.identity and I think we are doing both of those things. Are we
:31:42. > :31:47.getting the benefit of it from the electorate? Not yet, but it will
:31:47. > :31:55.come. With all of your experience in the Balkans and so on, is there
:31:55. > :32:03.any chink of light do you think in the Syrian situation at the moment?
:32:03. > :32:11.I don't think there is. Undercard we are not playing, I know Cathy
:32:11. > :32:16.Ashton held the famous Three plus three to deal with this issue over
:32:16. > :32:20.the last couple of days, but we are missing an important player. But
:32:20. > :32:26.there is one country that can play an increasing role by the way of
:32:26. > :32:29.the western Balkans and the eastern Mediterranean, it is Turkey. And
:32:29. > :32:34.Turkey is playing a very constructive role. Which country is
:32:34. > :32:40.going to put down an area of Syria which refugees will be protected
:32:40. > :32:45.in? Turkey is able to do so and are willing to do so. We need to forget
:32:45. > :32:50.thinking about this in Western terms, and bring in the new players,
:32:50. > :32:56.of which Turkey is one. It is the absence of Turkey playing that role
:32:56. > :32:58.which is inhibiting us having the outcome we should. It was more than
:32:58. > :33:01.40 years ago that youthful songwriter, Tim Rice, hooked up
:33:01. > :33:04.with Andrew Lloyd Webber, and hit shows like Jesus Christ Superstar,
:33:04. > :33:07.Evita and Joseph broke box office records. Collaborations with Abba,
:33:07. > :33:10.Elton John and Disney Studios brought more success and The Lion
:33:10. > :33:14.King has just become the most lucrative musical ever to be staged
:33:14. > :33:20.on Broadway. Tonight, Tim Rice, receives the special Olivier award
:33:20. > :33:30.for a lifetime of success. So is he sitting back now and counting his
:33:30. > :33:33.
:33:33. > :33:40.royalties? Sir Tim, welcome. You have a lot of awards, but this
:33:40. > :33:46.is a big one? I guess it is, I am genuinely surprised. When you have
:33:46. > :33:53.been around for a long time, as an old codger, people recognise that
:33:53. > :33:59.fact. I have not done anything for about 10 years. This is a story
:33:59. > :34:09.based on a 1950s novel? Yes, by James Jones called From Here to
:34:09. > :34:10.
:34:10. > :34:17.eternity, which was a film starring Burt Lancaster, and it won many
:34:17. > :34:24.Oscars. It is the story of American troops in Hawaii just before Pearl
:34:24. > :34:28.Harbor. It is a double love-story. It has been great fun to work on
:34:28. > :34:35.from here to maternity with young people. I am working with a great
:34:35. > :34:39.young director and composer. I need a bit of youth on my side. You were
:34:39. > :34:45.asked recently what you get back together with Andrew Lloyd Webber
:34:45. > :34:52.and work with him again? You said no, you need youth, something else?
:34:52. > :34:57.I did not say never again. The headline writer had a slightly off
:34:57. > :35:03.day that day. But we had a great time in the sun, if you like. It is
:35:03. > :35:10.often a mistake to go back and try and do something. If it was a great
:35:10. > :35:16.brilliant idea that trapped us both. But we were a dynamic duo who are
:35:16. > :35:26.not as dynamic as we were. In this new director, do you have another
:35:26. > :35:30.Lloyd Webber? It was Stuart's idea and this has a great story. The
:35:30. > :35:35.story is paramount. The greatest musicals always have a good story.
:35:35. > :35:40.If you have the choice between a great tale and a great score, if
:35:40. > :35:48.you only have one, you should go for the story, ideally you should
:35:48. > :35:51.have both. Musical's are one form of music. But the governments are
:35:51. > :35:56.making a change to legislation on live music and the performance of
:35:56. > :36:01.music, which I think he would welcome? I welcome it enormously.
:36:01. > :36:07.Live music, whether it is in the theatre, pubs or on the street is
:36:07. > :36:10.the one form of entertainment you cannot build Lake -- Bootle like.
:36:10. > :36:16.It is important small musical events can take place with live
:36:16. > :36:21.musicians. It is how they learn their craft without going on to a
:36:21. > :36:28.TV reality show. At so lewdly. The problem was there was too much
:36:28. > :36:33.bureaucracy? It was too difficult for people to put on live events?
:36:33. > :36:38.Because of the red tape, people were just putting on records. But
:36:38. > :36:44.there is too much recorded music, you cannot go out into a lift, the
:36:44. > :36:49.shop or a taxi without some terrible music blasting in your ear.
:36:49. > :36:54.This change goes to both houses of Commons next week. Big success for
:36:54. > :36:59.the back benches and a big success for the campaign? It is fantastic.
:36:59. > :37:03.One other story is the suggestion wind farms have gone far enough, no
:37:03. > :37:10.more wind farms will be necessary, according to a minister in one of
:37:10. > :37:14.the papers? He is so right. I have been offered a lot of cash to put a
:37:14. > :37:19.wind farm up in Scotland. It is insanity these machines, but don't
:37:19. > :37:26.actually do their job very well, rich idiots like me should benefit
:37:26. > :37:36.from it and put everybody's bills up. It is a crime. I am delighted,
:37:36. > :37:41.
:37:41. > :37:47.the U-turn, the wind is changing. Thanks a very much for joining us.
:37:47. > :37:50.Local elections are looming. We've heard a lot about the battle in
:37:50. > :37:52.London, but these sprawl almost everywhere and the opposition ought
:37:52. > :37:55.to be in chipper mood, what with some real post-Budget
:37:55. > :37:58.embarrassments for the Prime Minister. But a disastrous by-
:37:58. > :38:06.election in Bradford, lost to George Galloway and the Respect
:38:06. > :38:12.party matches some pretty grim polling on Labour's economic plan.
:38:12. > :38:16.The Opposition leader, Ed Miliband, joins me now.
:38:16. > :38:21.You have just come back from Bradford were you promised to go
:38:21. > :38:25.and listen and take the temperature and talk to people. What did they
:38:25. > :38:32.take you and what have you concluded? I think there was some
:38:32. > :38:37.local factors at play in Bradford. There is general unhappiness with
:38:37. > :38:41.the economic situation, partly to do with the national Government. We
:38:41. > :38:48.did not engage sufficiently with the Muslim community. Many of them
:38:48. > :38:51.voted for George Galloway. There are probably wider lessons that
:38:51. > :38:55.mainstream politics and a sense that somehow people don't
:38:55. > :39:00.necessarily turn away from the Conservatives and turn to Labour.
:39:00. > :39:06.We cannot assume that. The question is why? One of the things George
:39:06. > :39:11.Galloway has said his there is simply not enough clear, aggressive
:39:11. > :39:16.leadership by Labour when it comes to the big economic picture. If
:39:16. > :39:21.Labour had been banging the drum for Keynesian is an, attacking the
:39:21. > :39:26.idea of austerity in politics, pushing ahead for investment,
:39:26. > :39:31.sounding a bit more like old Labour, it would have been heard more?
:39:31. > :39:35.don't believe that, you have to look at the bigger picture. You
:39:35. > :39:40.characterise the situation in your introduction but I do not see it
:39:40. > :39:44.that way. The Government had the benefit of the doubt or losing it
:39:44. > :39:50.because of the failure of their economic plan. And now the
:39:50. > :39:56.unfairness piled on top of that. Let's remember, we hadn't heard
:39:56. > :40:00.this today, but a cut in the 50 pence tax rate, a cut in taxes the
:40:00. > :40:07.millionairess, funded by millions paying more. Pensioners, we will
:40:07. > :40:12.have a vote over this next week. We have seen on Furnace from his
:40:12. > :40:17.budget and that is why the wheels are coming of this Government. I
:40:17. > :40:21.have been up to Carlisle and then down to Southampton, we are talking
:40:21. > :40:27.about Labour's have different priorities on taxation, cutting
:40:27. > :40:31.energy bills. Your characterisation of Labour's position is not one I
:40:32. > :40:36.would share. Bradford was a bad result, we have got to learn the
:40:36. > :40:40.lessons. But I see a Labour Party that is getting back in touch with
:40:40. > :40:43.people and a Government out of touch with people. One of the
:40:44. > :40:47.arguments going on after the Bradford result is there was a gap
:40:47. > :40:53.opening up between huge numbers of people in this country and the
:40:53. > :40:59.political world, generally. People see you as being a bit the same and
:40:59. > :41:03.when it comes to stories like Dome has been caught offering access and
:41:03. > :41:07.cash for access, that turns people's stomachs. There is a sense
:41:07. > :41:12.in Westminster, they don't get it. They're getting huge amounts of
:41:12. > :41:17.money. The party donor ship thing has to be dealt with. It cannot be
:41:17. > :41:22.put off for much longer. You're right, we have to change the way we
:41:22. > :41:28.fund politics and take the big money out of politics. Why do I say
:41:28. > :41:31.that? You are right to say people... When people don't vote for the
:41:31. > :41:35.mainstream parties they believe politics cannot change my life and
:41:35. > :41:41.I will protest. Part of the reason people think that is because
:41:41. > :41:45.politics is not been run in their interests. It is one for the
:41:45. > :41:49.interests of those at the top, a few people who can give good money.
:41:49. > :41:54.I have heard people saying we will have changed in political funding
:41:54. > :42:00.for the last few years, but nothing has moved. I am going to move on
:42:01. > :42:09.this, Andrews. Or poor to -- political leaders have to make
:42:09. > :42:15.decisions that are uncomfortable. We will have a low cap and make it
:42:15. > :42:18.at �5,000 donation cap. Second we need tougher limits on spending,
:42:19. > :42:22.more comprehensive limits on spending and lower limits on
:42:22. > :42:27.spending. And parties will have to diversify were they get their
:42:27. > :42:31.income from. I am proud of what the Labour Party does in terms of
:42:31. > :42:37.raising money from its members. I think we do more than any other
:42:37. > :42:40.political party, but we have to do more. These sound like changes that
:42:40. > :42:44.would damage Conservative funding much more than they would damage
:42:44. > :42:54.your funding. Unless you are suggesting the big union cheques
:42:54. > :42:56.
:42:56. > :43:00.will stop, to? I am. You are? suggesting that. When I am talking
:43:00. > :43:05.about a �5,000 donation cap, I am talking about the unions as well.
:43:05. > :43:12.The large donations from the trade unions would no longer happen under
:43:12. > :43:17.this system. I am not making a unilateral act, but I am proposing
:43:17. > :43:21.this. The other thing we get from trade unions is the �3 each
:43:21. > :43:26.individual trade union levy payer pays, people who affiliate to the
:43:26. > :43:32.Labour Party. 3 million people around this country, nurses,
:43:32. > :43:40.engineers. To make things clear, there are two kinds of funds to get
:43:40. > :43:47.from trade unions. One is a one off cheques around election time and
:43:47. > :43:52.that is where you are proposing the cap. How much of the money? We get
:43:52. > :43:59.millions of pounds. You want to keep the individual opts out system
:43:59. > :44:04.works by individuals in trade unions pay money? Let me explain,
:44:04. > :44:09.at a time when people say politics is too detached from working people,
:44:09. > :44:13.I value the link with the trade unions. I believe in it. It is
:44:13. > :44:17.because of the link it provides us to working people around this
:44:17. > :44:21.country. It is not just that working people founded the Labour
:44:21. > :44:26.Party, they keep us rooted in our communities now. They continued to
:44:26. > :44:31.be part of this process, but the large donations under this reform,
:44:31. > :44:35.and if it is agreed, we need a low cap, they would stop. It's your
:44:35. > :44:40.proposal was agreed now, what would it have done to your overall
:44:40. > :44:46.funding at the last election? would have lost millions of pounds,
:44:46. > :44:51.quite significant. 30 descent, 40%? It is important as a corrective to
:44:51. > :44:55.what's out there, 40% of our a income came from members and about
:44:55. > :45:01.40% came from the trade unions and the rest from individual donors and
:45:01. > :45:05.others. We are talking about a significant change. When it comes
:45:05. > :45:09.to the individuals you were talking about, the nurses' pay in through
:45:09. > :45:14.political levy, you could make it more transparent and removed
:45:14. > :45:19.criticism if people had to opt in, specifically say I want to pay this
:45:19. > :45:24.levy. Then it would be coming directly from them? You have talked
:45:24. > :45:29.about transparency, and opting in and opting out. Opting in and out
:45:30. > :45:34.is not the issue. The real question is, is it clear whether money is
:45:34. > :45:37.going? I am happy to say it is important. Of course people should
:45:37. > :45:43.know where their money is going, and that will be looked at as part
:45:43. > :45:46.of these changes. Let's take the big money out of politics. I hope
:45:46. > :45:51.Nick Clegg and David Cameron will come forward with their own
:45:51. > :45:56.proposals, wanting to make changes. It will make things harder for the
:45:56. > :46:02.political party but it is in the interest of democracy. Politics is
:46:02. > :46:06.at a low ebb. People's Trust and politics is lower than it has been
:46:06. > :46:11.for generations. The most depressing thing on the doorstep is
:46:11. > :46:15.now when people say they are voting Tory or Lib Dem, it is much more
:46:15. > :46:24.depressing when it is all the same. We have got to take action to
:46:24. > :46:28.In terms of how people signed up for the political levy, because
:46:28. > :46:33.people say you could benefit from laziness, you're absolutely against
:46:33. > :46:38.people being able to obtain rather than say I would like to spend some
:46:38. > :46:41.money on the Labour Party. I don't think... Why not? The issue is
:46:41. > :46:46.whether it is transparent where people's money is going, that is
:46:46. > :46:51.what matters. I am in favour of transparency. I do say this. What
:46:51. > :46:54.we must not have is an attempt to disenfranchise and exclude millions
:46:54. > :46:59.of people from the political process at a time when I'm saying,
:46:59. > :47:02.and others will say, let's have more small donations, to say let's
:47:02. > :47:07.exclude deceptive people who are affiliated to the Labour people
:47:07. > :47:14.would be a wrong thing. Transparency, yes, but exclusion,
:47:14. > :47:21.no. A sense on the national cap on spending. It is carried towards 20
:47:21. > :47:26.million. -- covertly. I think that is too high. I think it should be
:47:26. > :47:33.substantially less. If parties can't spend the money, they will be
:47:33. > :47:37.less likely to try to raise money. You're not for extra public money?
:47:37. > :47:42.A let me say this. In the current economic circumstances, that is not
:47:43. > :47:48.practical. What I think needs to be done in the negotiations, let's
:47:48. > :47:53.look at the existing money spent on politics, let's look at how we can
:47:53. > :47:59.encourage small donations let's have a low spending cap. The
:47:59. > :48:03.negotiations will take their course, but let's make a concerted effort
:48:03. > :48:08.to really grasp this nettle. I don't know how quickly we can get
:48:08. > :48:12.this reform, but let's try to get the reforms moving. Yes. Let's turn
:48:12. > :48:16.to some of these elections coming up and elections beyond that. Is it
:48:16. > :48:20.the case that you were trying to ban Labour MPs from resigning their
:48:20. > :48:25.seats in order to become mayors of cities all stand as police
:48:25. > :48:28.commissioners? People have got way ahead of themselves. The national
:48:28. > :48:32.executive of the Labour Party always go through a Pope -- process
:48:32. > :48:38.whereby when people want to fight by-elections, they fight that off -
:48:38. > :48:43.- sign that off. We don't know where there will be Meyers yet.
:48:43. > :48:49.Speculation is over done. If people want to stand for something, and
:48:49. > :48:52.that would lead to a by-election, you would not stop them? We fought
:48:52. > :48:58.six by-election since I became leader and I have -- we have won
:48:58. > :49:02.five of them. I will fight any by- election that comes along and I am
:49:02. > :49:07.confident of winning. Isn't it to worry that people like Liam Byrne,
:49:07. > :49:14.senior Lib Dem, seems to think life outside Westminster, running a big
:49:14. > :49:19.city, might be more attractive? don't see it that way. He is very
:49:19. > :49:24.attached to Birmingham, he believes Birmingham can be a laboratory and
:49:24. > :49:27.show how Labour can make a difference in government. I see
:49:27. > :49:31.Labour councils sharing what I'm talking about nationally, fairness
:49:31. > :49:35.in tough times. With different priorities, we can make a
:49:35. > :49:39.difference. I was in Derby recently, where we are trying to get control
:49:39. > :49:45.of the council. Even from opposition, they have managed to
:49:45. > :49:49.keep open children centres and care homes. What I see is the Labour
:49:49. > :49:53.Party which is fighting these local elections hard and well and showing
:49:54. > :49:58.that we have different priorities from this government. That is where
:49:58. > :50:03.politics is moving, the sense that this government is out of touch and
:50:03. > :50:08.the Labour Party is back in touch. There will be a very interesting
:50:08. > :50:12.test of that in the local elections. You have to win London. We want to
:50:12. > :50:17.win everywhere. I'm not saying want to, to show that you are coming
:50:17. > :50:20.back, you have to win in London. What matters is for the people of
:50:20. > :50:25.and London and that is why I have been campaigning with Ken
:50:25. > :50:29.Livingstone, that is why I have Labour wins in London. Whether it
:50:29. > :50:34.is public transport fares for the educational maintenance allowance
:50:34. > :50:38.or fair rents... London has always been so caught Labour city. You
:50:38. > :50:42.really should win London this time. We are doing our best throughout
:50:42. > :50:45.the country. If you want to anticipate the results, let's see
:50:45. > :50:49.where we are after the May elections. What would the signal be
:50:49. > :50:53.if you didn't win London, if Boris was back was back I think I just
:50:53. > :50:58.gave you the answer. Wait and see. What about the overall national
:50:58. > :51:02.picture. There have been indications from Labour that if you
:51:02. > :51:07.took 300 seats, that would be enough. Almost all of the
:51:07. > :51:12.independent commentators say you need to have 600-700 victories at
:51:12. > :51:15.least to say we are back in the game. I say this in all
:51:15. > :51:19.circumstances, I'm not a commentator, I'm not in the
:51:19. > :51:25.forecasting business, I'm in the business of making a difference to
:51:25. > :51:30.people's lives. Very few ask me how many seats Labour will gain, they
:51:30. > :51:35.ask me what I will do to get their son or daughter a job. I say we
:51:35. > :51:38.will levy a tax on bank as bonuses to put people back to work. If we
:51:38. > :51:46.want a more relevant politics, let's talk about the issues that
:51:46. > :51:50.matter to people. One of the pieces of Westminster commentary we have
:51:50. > :51:55.heard a lot of recently, relating to the sense that the political
:51:55. > :52:00.class are different, is the debate about tax returns being made public.
:52:00. > :52:03.We have seen it in the London mayoral election, we have seen it
:52:03. > :52:06.Bellini been -- bleeding over into Westminster politics with both the
:52:06. > :52:11.work -- prime minister and the Chancellor suggesting they would
:52:11. > :52:18.make their tax returns public. perfectly happy. Is this a good
:52:18. > :52:22.thing in public life? It is kind of inevitable. I challenged George
:52:22. > :52:25.Osborne and David Cameron on the day of the Budget and I said do you
:52:25. > :52:30.benefit from 50p tax rate? I thought a lot about that, whether
:52:30. > :52:34.it was fair. The reason I did it was because if you're coming along
:52:35. > :52:39.with a Budget that raises taxes on pensioners, raises taxes on working
:52:39. > :52:43.families, raises taxes on charities and you what personally getting a
:52:43. > :52:47.benefit that only a few people are getting, only the richest people,
:52:47. > :52:50.it is a legitimate question. I did not call for the tax return to be
:52:50. > :52:54.published, but if that is the way things are going, I'm perfectly
:52:54. > :52:58.happy to do it. You need to be a bit more proactive if things are
:52:58. > :53:02.going to be moving. Will you say to the Shadow Cabinet, I think the
:53:02. > :53:10.time has come, let's put our tax returns out there. That is a
:53:10. > :53:15.discussion we will have. I think what really matters, I've said I
:53:15. > :53:18.would not be a beneficiary of the 50p tax cut. We don't know whether
:53:18. > :53:22.the Prime Minister and Chancellor are. But before we get on to the
:53:22. > :53:28.question of tax returns, let's have transparency. What about people's
:53:28. > :53:31.assets and overall wealth? This is the problem. You can get to a
:53:31. > :53:36.situation of medical history, medical records, fitness tests.
:53:36. > :53:41.There has to be some limits. Speaking for me personally, I'm
:53:41. > :53:46.very happy to publish my tax return. And spouses. A great discussion
:53:46. > :53:52.about Nick Clegg's wife. She should have some privacy. Spouses would be
:53:52. > :53:57.going too far. I do think so, yes. You have to draw some limits.
:53:57. > :54:02.interesting. Thank you. Now over to Riz Lateef for the news
:54:02. > :54:06.headlines. Ed Miliband has called for major
:54:06. > :54:10.changes for the system of funding political parties. He told this
:54:10. > :54:13.programme Fair should be a cap of �5,000 on donations. He
:54:13. > :54:17.acknowledged it would mean the end of big payments from the trade
:54:17. > :54:20.unions to the Labour Party, but he said the political levy paid by
:54:20. > :54:23.individual union members should continue.
:54:23. > :54:28.Lord Ashdown has said the government may have to read
:54:28. > :54:34.calibrate its proposal to limit tax relief on charitable donations.
:54:34. > :54:38.Lord Ashdown said it was important to clamp down on tax avoidance, but
:54:38. > :54:41.a sensible balance should be struck. The proposal has been criticised in
:54:41. > :54:51.today's papers by there Conservative Party treasurer and
:54:51. > :54:51.
:54:51. > :54:58.more than 40 leading Let's have a look at what's coming
:54:58. > :55:03.up on the big questions. Good morning. This week David Cameron
:55:03. > :55:08.launches his big attempt against the European Court of Human Rights.
:55:08. > :55:12.As Europe created too many rights? And should abortion be a private
:55:12. > :55:16.matter? This campaigner says it is his duty to dip to dissuade women
:55:16. > :55:24.from choosing an adaption. Bettany Hughes is here to argue that God is
:55:24. > :55:27.really a woman. Now for a very long time, sitar
:55:27. > :55:29.players like Ravi Shankar have created a big following in the west
:55:29. > :55:33.for traditional Indian music, but you ain't heard nothing yet. There
:55:33. > :55:36.are some younger performers who are mixing it all up, drinking in some
:55:36. > :55:38.western influences and making new sounds of their own. Raghu Dixit is
:55:38. > :55:41.from a traditional family in southern India where western music
:55:41. > :55:45.was virtually unknown, and he didn't pick up a guitar till he was
:55:45. > :55:48.nearly 20. His band was a huge hit at Glastonbury last year, playing
:55:48. > :55:52.on three separate stages during the festival. He's performing at
:55:52. > :55:59.London's Alchemy festival this week and he's back in the UK in June for
:55:59. > :56:05.a starring role at the annual WOMAD festival. Raghu, welcome. Great to
:56:05. > :56:10.have you here. You were a scientist, a microbiologist. If you had hardly
:56:10. > :56:13.picked up a guitar until late. I was 19, I was challenged to pick
:56:13. > :56:17.up a guitar and play a song in English by a classmate and that is
:56:17. > :56:22.how I started. Was this to get women? And not really, he was
:56:22. > :56:27.getting all the women! The style you are developing is picking a lot
:56:27. > :56:31.of Western influences, traditional influences, to produce... I don't
:56:31. > :56:35.know how you would describe it. is the upbringing I have had. At
:56:35. > :56:40.home it was a very traditional upbringing, but I also went to
:56:40. > :56:44.college and got exposed to a lot of Western music. We used to swap
:56:44. > :56:48.tapes. You will be singing a song which is partly in Indian and
:56:48. > :56:52.partly in English. So at least you can get one single line of Mize
:56:52. > :56:55.sans! Thank you. That's it for today - thanks to all
:56:55. > :56:59.my guests. Just time to tell you that there will be no show next
:56:59. > :57:02.Sunday, we make way for the London Marathon - many years of running
:57:02. > :57:05.seem to have ruined my knees so I'll just have to watch. But I'll
:57:05. > :57:08.be back the following week, when I'll be talking to the Prime
:57:08. > :57:12.Minister, David Cameron. So do join me for that, on Sunday 29th April,
:57:12. > :57:22.at the usual time and back to the usual channel, BBC One. But for now,
:57:22. > :57:59.
:57:59. > :58:02.we leave you with Raghu Dixit and # Well I'm in Mumbai, waiting for a
:58:02. > :58:05.miracle. # Well I'm in Mumbai, waiting for a
:58:05. > :58:08.miracle. # Well I'm in Mumbai, waiting for a
:58:08. > :58:18.miracle. # Well I'm in Mumbai, waiting for a
:58:18. > :58:49.
:58:49. > :58:52.# Well I'm in Mumbai, waiting for a miracle.