:00:38. > :00:42.Good morning, good morning. Lots of loyal front pages today. Pictures
:00:42. > :00:48.of the Queen looking happy at the races yesterday. I think the award
:00:48. > :00:51.for the most imaginative friend page goes to The People. It is
:00:51. > :00:55.dedicated to the people of our nation, it says, who never
:00:55. > :00:59.knowingly missed a party. It talks about the 2500 miles of bunting,
:00:59. > :01:04.the beer and champagne, and it finishes with 6 million sponge
:01:04. > :01:11.cakes, lovingly prepared, 24 million off work. Stuff the economy,
:01:11. > :01:14.it already is. 60 glorious years, all for one woman, God bless her.
:01:14. > :01:19.Joining me for the review of the papers is Guardian columnist Polly
:01:19. > :01:23.Toynbee, who it will probably be casting a sceptical eye over the
:01:23. > :01:25.events of the weekend. And Rory Bremner will be, I hope, be
:01:25. > :01:29.bringing some of the Royal Family along with him today.
:01:29. > :01:35.David Cameron says he finds talking to the Queen very helpful. Just now,
:01:35. > :01:39.he probably has quite a lot to unburden himself of. Bunting aside,
:01:39. > :01:43.these are testing times for the Prime Minister. Recession, but just
:01:43. > :01:47.U-turns, the Leveson Inquiry. I have been talking to him about
:01:47. > :01:49.Jeremy Hunt, the Culture Secretary, and budget embarrassments. We will
:01:49. > :01:53.hear his tribute to the Queen as well.
:01:53. > :01:57.This morning, 1000 boats are mustering on the Thames ready for
:01:57. > :02:01.the historic river pageant, which promises to be one of the most
:02:01. > :02:07.spectacular events that London has seen for centuries, Republican rain
:02:07. > :02:13.or not. I will be joined by the Pageant Master, Adrian Evans. Ahead
:02:13. > :02:17.of Tuesday's Bic service, the Bishop of London discusses her role
:02:17. > :02:21.as the head of England -- the Church of England. Can an
:02:21. > :02:26.established church be defended in a place of many faiths and none? We
:02:26. > :02:30.will hear how the Jubilee is being celebrated in Pakistan and a double
:02:30. > :02:40.helping of music from Commonwealth musicians, who will be joining the
:02:40. > :02:42.
:02:42. > :02:49.From Australia, the haunting sound of aboriginal singer Gurrumul. Then
:02:49. > :02:56.a foot stomping finale from the African children's choir. So, lots
:02:56. > :03:00.coming up. First, the news. Good morning. The Queen's Diamond
:03:00. > :03:04.Jubilee celebrations will take to the water in a few hours' time when
:03:04. > :03:08.a flotilla of 1000 boats set sail down the river Thames in London.
:03:08. > :03:18.More than 20,000 people are taking part and the guest of honour will,
:03:18. > :03:18.
:03:18. > :03:21.Nothing on the scale of today's pageant will have been seen for 350
:03:21. > :03:29.years. The sheer number of vessels and people involved art hugely
:03:29. > :03:35.ambitious. It is a challenging task for specialist police, who have had
:03:35. > :03:39.to search London's bridges, with no modern precedent for such a huge
:03:39. > :03:43.occasion. Security is high. Some of the boats which have not been able
:03:43. > :03:47.to join the flotilla are moored in St Katherine's Dock, where people
:03:47. > :03:51.got into the festive spirit. Some were so keen to be here this
:03:51. > :03:57.weekend that they reserved way in advance. I can't wait, we booked
:03:57. > :04:01.this over a year ago. We sailed down over the last three days.
:04:02. > :04:06.booked about two years ago. We came from Norwich. We came down on
:04:06. > :04:11.Thursday. This was the moment that marked the anniversary of the
:04:11. > :04:14.Queen's coronation, yesterday. A 41 gun salute at the Tower of London,
:04:14. > :04:18.which coincided with salutes fired from official points around the
:04:18. > :04:22.country. But while many parts of the country will be celebrating
:04:22. > :04:29.with big lunches and street parties today, all eyes will be on the
:04:29. > :04:32.The Lebanese Prime Minister has visited the northern city of
:04:32. > :04:37.Tripoli, where 10 people are reported to have been killed in
:04:37. > :04:40.violent clashes. The fighting is between supporters and opponents of
:04:40. > :04:45.President Assad of Syria. The United Nations peace envoy, Kofi
:04:45. > :04:49.Annan, has already voiced fears that the violence in Syria could
:04:49. > :04:53.spill into neighbouring countries. A British soldier who was killed in
:04:53. > :04:58.Afghanistan Friday has been named as Corporal Michael Thacker from
:04:58. > :05:01.Cwmbran in South Wales. The 27- year-old, who served with the 1st
:05:01. > :05:06.Battalion, the Royal Welsh, was manning an observation post in the
:05:07. > :05:10.now be so large -- Nahr-e Saraj district.
:05:10. > :05:14.Thousands of Egyptians have spent the night protesting across the
:05:14. > :05:21.country after verdicts in Egypt's so-called trial of the century.
:05:21. > :05:23.Although Hosni Mubarak was given a life sentence, his two sons and six
:05:24. > :05:28.former police commanders were cleared.
:05:29. > :05:32.They are angry again in Tahrir Square. It was here, in just 18
:05:32. > :05:37.days of protests last year, that the Egyptian people brought down
:05:37. > :05:42.their President. A place of people power. But now the feeling is of
:05:42. > :05:47.powerlessness. They have been here through the night, because, they
:05:47. > :05:52.say, justice was not done in the trial of former President Hosni
:05:52. > :06:02.Mubarak. A very disappointing judgment. The minimum sentence is
:06:02. > :06:07.
:06:07. > :06:11.Hosni Mubarak was sentenced to life in prison for his role in the
:06:11. > :06:14.deaths of 800 protesters during last year's revolution. The court
:06:14. > :06:19.acquitted him of corruption and his sons and several of his senior
:06:19. > :06:22.security officials got off. There is speculation that the prosecution
:06:22. > :06:30.case against him was so poorly constructed that he could
:06:30. > :06:34.successfully appeal. In the city of Alexandria, they
:06:34. > :06:38.count -- Trent, down with military rulers. They feel that while
:06:38. > :06:41.Mubarak has gone, too much of his regime is still in place. Some even
:06:41. > :06:48.talk of the need for another revolution so that the people in
:06:48. > :06:53.these pictures, last year's so- called martyrs, did not die in vain.
:06:53. > :06:57.It was billed as the show which focused on talent rather than looks.
:06:57. > :07:06.Last night, a former holiday camp singer from Lowestoft won the first
:07:06. > :07:10.series of the BBC's The Voice. Leanne Mitchell, who had Sir Tom
:07:10. > :07:16.Jones as her mentor, beat the favourites with her version of
:07:16. > :07:21.Whitney Houston's Run To You. I will be back just before 10
:07:21. > :07:26.o'clock with the headlines. Now, the front pages. As I say, it
:07:26. > :07:31.is Queen, Queen, Queen. The Sunday Times has no headline at all. Just
:07:31. > :07:36.a very large picture of her. A bold bit of front page editing. The
:07:36. > :07:39.Sunday Telegraph, they had a version of the same picture and an
:07:39. > :07:48.opinion poll saying that she is officially our greatest ever
:07:48. > :07:52.monarch. She beats Victoria, 35% to 24%. The other big story, the SAS
:07:52. > :08:02.freeing hostages in Afghanistan. The bad news continues for Baroness
:08:02. > :08:07.
:08:07. > :08:14.Warsi. Lots of royal front pages. The Sunday Mirror, The Sun, a rat
:08:14. > :08:18.husband dumps Myleene Klass. Something slightly different!
:08:18. > :08:24.Jubilee everywhere? You must feel like Richard Dawkins on Christmas
:08:24. > :08:29.Day. A bad day for Republicans. hope that the weather picks up.
:08:29. > :08:39.Prince Charles was saying, this rain, when it is it going to stop?
:08:39. > :08:40.
:08:40. > :08:46.It isn't the most tactful thing, today. Yes, it is everywhere. The
:08:46. > :08:49.expressed, page 1-93, they are talking about the pageant.
:08:49. > :08:55.Interesting, you look through for various views about the Queen. What
:08:55. > :09:02.comes through, it is the durability of her own personal success, her
:09:02. > :09:12.own personal story. She has no time to relax. I was reading your book
:09:12. > :09:14.
:09:14. > :09:17.last night, because I have had I think you once started out as a
:09:17. > :09:24.Republican but you only have to follow her around for a couple of
:09:24. > :09:30.days to see how hard she works. A lovely picture of Ken Clarke. He
:09:30. > :09:37.looks more and more in a vicar in Jane Austen, he wakes up and says,
:09:37. > :09:42.yes, capital, capital, and falls back asleep. I rather like the idea
:09:42. > :09:48.of Cameron saying that we are all in the same boat together. Prince
:09:48. > :09:51.Philip saying, not today, we are bloody not! There is a lot of
:09:51. > :09:55.Republican... There is some republican argument in today's
:09:55. > :10:05.papers? There is going to be a big republican demonstration later in
:10:05. > :10:10.the day? 1:30pm, City Hall. Tony Benn, Peter Tatchell, George
:10:10. > :10:14.Galloway, they will fall off the bridge and caused a smash -- splash.
:10:15. > :10:20.Social mobility? Not while we have hereditary monarchy. The meaning of
:10:20. > :10:24.it all remains painfully elusive. Amongst Republicans there is a
:10:24. > :10:28.sense that celebration is great, wonderful having street parties and
:10:28. > :10:32.great national events, but if only it were for Shakespeare's birthday
:10:32. > :10:35.or for the Magna Carta. There is a kind of emptiness at the heart of
:10:35. > :10:40.all of this. The old lady has stayed on the throne for 60 years,
:10:40. > :10:45.terrific. But it doesn't have real meaning. Does it express who we
:10:45. > :10:49.are? If so, his hereditary what we are about? We are trying to reform
:10:49. > :10:53.the House of Lords, not likely to happen. I was very interested,
:10:54. > :10:58.there is almost a postcode differential. My bits of London
:10:58. > :11:08.have lots of street parties. But in north London, almost nothing, I am
:11:08. > :11:13.told. Here, have one of these. That is the intellectual argument.
:11:13. > :11:17.move on to the next story. What else have we got? Jeremy Hunt. This
:11:17. > :11:22.is quite extraordinary. This is the Leveson Inquiry. There is a feeling
:11:22. > :11:29.that, for the moment, he has got off scot-free. I find that quite
:11:29. > :11:34.extraordinary. It may surface again. Nick Clegg has not ruled out that
:11:34. > :11:41.he will possibly back a plan by Labour MPs to force this to go to
:11:41. > :11:47.the Commissioner, the adviser on the ministerial code. This is
:11:47. > :11:52.Jeremy Hunt's contribution to the Jubilee, a 21 smoking gun salute.
:11:52. > :11:55.If a judge had been disqualified from conducting an inquiry on the
:11:55. > :11:59.grounds he was biased, but his successor publicly and privately
:11:59. > :12:04.supported one of the parties in the case, on the morning he was
:12:04. > :12:10.appointed he had run up the person involved to say good luck, then
:12:10. > :12:16.during the course of the inquiry he was sending text messages to the
:12:16. > :12:21.Duke executive, 532 times. -- chief-executive. While his clerk
:12:21. > :12:25.was leaking secret information. There would be a massive uproar.
:12:25. > :12:30.It's impossible to prove that Jeremy Hunt did not put all of that
:12:30. > :12:36.to one side in his head. We are into Bird and Fortune territory. I
:12:36. > :12:43.had a meeting with myself and I made sure that I sent myself out of
:12:43. > :12:46.the room. It's ridiculous. The only reason he is still there is to
:12:46. > :12:50.protect David Cameron. He will run into trouble. At some point you
:12:50. > :12:53.will have to make a decision on something important and his
:12:53. > :12:58.judgment will be called into question. He might scrape through
:12:58. > :13:02.the Olympics but I imagine he will be reshuffled. You would argue that
:13:02. > :13:06.a more important story is the outcome of the Budget. There is a
:13:06. > :13:11.lot about George Osborne? Very interesting. The Conservatives seem
:13:11. > :13:16.to have their names out for George Osborne. A number of Tory papers.
:13:16. > :13:22.Here we have an anonymous Tory backbencher, and absolutely
:13:22. > :13:26.excoriating attack on him. His budget, in the last week, try to
:13:26. > :13:33.hide it behind the jubilate and all of that, three more U-turns. Of
:13:33. > :13:37.course, no U-turns on the thing that really matters. His austerity,
:13:37. > :13:41.his economic policy, which has led us into double-dip recession.
:13:41. > :13:44.all sorts of reasons, including what is going on in Spain, we are
:13:44. > :13:50.at a very dangerous time economically. It's interesting.
:13:50. > :13:56.There is proper commentary on that in the papers. Not a great deal on
:13:56. > :14:01.the Jubilee, but there is sudden? was stopped by the police for doing
:14:01. > :14:05.a U-turn. Instead of finding you, they should commend you on your
:14:05. > :14:08.bravery in changing direction. He's not the most popular person. Will
:14:08. > :14:13.Hutton has written an excellent piece about austerity? A brilliant
:14:13. > :14:16.piece, a wonderful quote from a distinguished columnist. There is
:14:16. > :14:20.zero chance of austerity working. It's like thinking you can escape
:14:20. > :14:24.from gravity by waving your arms up and down. All over Europe, it is
:14:24. > :14:29.quite clear that this cruel austerity experiment has failed.
:14:29. > :14:33.Yet there is no U-turn on the thing that really matters. That is the
:14:33. > :14:38.observe a? I think you have a piece from the Independent? -- the
:14:38. > :14:43.Observer. This goes back to the heart of Downing Street. Mrs David
:14:43. > :14:51.Cameron's adviser, not coming back from California. He has an unpaid
:14:51. > :15:00.sabbatical. So, we have one adviser, one person very close, a Chancellor,
:15:00. > :15:05.George Osborne, very much having a bad weekend, a very badly held in
:15:05. > :15:15.terms of the steam. His top adviser, Steve Hilton, not coming back. He
:15:15. > :15:16.
:15:16. > :15:21.He was very much the radical incumbent in the inner circle?
:15:21. > :15:26.is the unravelling of the Government over the past few weeks.
:15:26. > :15:36.The past attacks, the list goes on. Meanwhile, interesting developments
:15:36. > :15:40.with the Liberals, they are showing some signs of getting back together.
:15:40. > :15:45.Backstairs conversations going on between leading Lib Dems and Labour
:15:45. > :15:48.people. Lord Adonis, who was one of the Labour people who tried to
:15:48. > :15:53.negotiate the Liberal packed when it fell apart and was very angry
:15:53. > :16:00.with them, is now making his peace with them and Menzies Campbell and
:16:00. > :16:05.various others... A very wise and absolutely essential. This is
:16:05. > :16:09.genuinely going on? I have heard about this. Not that associations,
:16:09. > :16:15.but there are lots of problems. If the Lib-Dems are wiped out at the
:16:15. > :16:18.next election, if those Labour voters and Lib Dem seats in the
:16:18. > :16:22.south-west do not go on giving their votes to the Lib Dems, they
:16:22. > :16:27.will be wiped out. That makes it more likely that the Conservatives
:16:27. > :16:30.will get the majority. Labour needs to have a reasonably amicable
:16:30. > :16:35.relationship and hope that their voters in seats that Labour cannot
:16:35. > :16:43.win continued to give votes to the Lib Dems. Sorry to bring up the
:16:43. > :16:46.Jubilee again but 60 years ago of the Liberals and down to 2.5%. In
:16:46. > :16:49.the 1951 election. And the Conservatives got through, partly
:16:49. > :16:59.through the help of that amount of Liberals because the party
:16:59. > :17:01.
:17:01. > :17:04.collapsed. The other huge story before we finish is Syria. The date
:17:04. > :17:09.is a problem for the West because we hate what is going on and
:17:09. > :17:13.everybody thinks it is tenable, the stories, and yet, after what has
:17:13. > :17:18.happened in other parts of the Middle East, with Western
:17:18. > :17:22.intervention, there is a sense of not wanting to do it again. Malcolm
:17:22. > :17:31.Rifkind in the sun, not by natural liver, says that we should
:17:32. > :17:36.intervene. -- not my natural Kippur. The Observer is quite mad, most of
:17:36. > :17:41.the wise heads say you could make things worse if the West does the
:17:41. > :17:47.wrong thing. In any way, there is no UN support because of China and
:17:47. > :17:51.Russia. We are left again on the sidelines, watching the horrors,
:17:51. > :17:56.but we could make it worse so sometimes standing back is the
:17:56. > :18:01.right thing. There could be civil war? If that is already happening.
:18:01. > :18:10.But that could just go on and on. If everybody piles were weapons
:18:10. > :18:15.into the place. If the Western Paras are not going to war and one
:18:15. > :18:19.not get the Turks to do their dirty work, they should push for power
:18:19. > :18:23.sharing. This will be difficult for the Russians to oppose and will
:18:23. > :18:28.lead to fears of Iran. The alternative is a long war that
:18:28. > :18:34.would tear Syria apart. No simple solution. Not every good question
:18:34. > :18:41.has a good answer. We have nothing to cheerful -- nothing cheerful to
:18:41. > :18:45.end on. Thank you both very much. I'll be talking to the man at the
:18:45. > :18:55.centrepiece of this weekend's events with the Thames pageant but
:18:55. > :18:57.
:18:57. > :19:00.the most important question is, Not a particularly great day. It is
:19:01. > :19:04.very grey and misty at the moment down on the Thames and there will
:19:04. > :19:08.be further rain on and off, including during the patch and
:19:08. > :19:11.period but that will ease off every now and again, not a complete
:19:11. > :19:17.washout but that wind direction, the easterly wind bringing chilly
:19:17. > :19:22.conditions. Particularly across parts of East Anglia and the
:19:22. > :19:28.Midlands and North Wales and then to Merseyside, and Yorkshire.
:19:28. > :19:31.Further heavy showers to come, the best weather in Scotland and
:19:31. > :19:35.developing into Northern Ireland and the far north of England but
:19:35. > :19:39.confirmation of a cold day. Around nine or 10 degrees. The wetter
:19:39. > :19:43.weather goes towards the Continent tonight, lingering into first light
:19:43. > :19:48.in the south-east corner. Clear conditions into bank holiday Monday
:19:48. > :19:51.but compared with today across England and Wales, vastly improved.
:19:51. > :19:56.The cloud will break up and southern areas, one or two showers
:19:56. > :19:59.through eastern England in particular but most places will
:19:59. > :20:06.have a dry bank holiday Monday with bright, sunny weather around and
:20:06. > :20:16.temperatures recovering. 12 on the East and 16 in the West but after a
:20:16. > :20:16.
:20:16. > :20:22.bright start on Tuesday, more wet The man was surely the best job
:20:22. > :20:27.title today is Adrian Evans, the Pageant Master of that regatta, the
:20:27. > :20:32.Armada which will progress through London. This is the culmination of
:20:32. > :20:39.years of preparations and it is his big day. We are grateful to him for
:20:39. > :20:48.joining us from Battersea Park. Good morning. How do you feel?
:20:48. > :20:54.feeling great! Tension levels are good. After all this time, to
:20:54. > :20:57.finally see those boats on the Thames, it just lifts the spirits.
:20:57. > :21:04.Some rain and all was the enthusiasm around, nose But it's
:21:04. > :21:13.dampened. We are used to the rain. You have everything from a pop up
:21:13. > :21:18.pub to fantastic musical events? But 1000 vessels ready to go?
:21:18. > :21:22.Absolutely. They have been converging into London from all
:21:22. > :21:28.over the UK and some of the stories I have heard from some of those has
:21:28. > :21:32.been extraordinary. I was talking to one other chaps yesterday, who
:21:32. > :21:39.found out only yesterday that their vessel was part of the Coronation
:21:39. > :21:43.flotilla. The story unfolds at every step with these boats.
:21:43. > :21:48.Explain, one of the problems with the Thames as a place of
:21:48. > :21:56.transportation is the tide is so high. Something very special has
:21:56. > :22:03.happened today? Normally speaking, the water level rises by seven
:22:03. > :22:06.metres, twice a day. That is the shift of the tides. We have
:22:06. > :22:10.negotiated with the Environment Agency and they have to close the
:22:10. > :22:16.barrier once a year to service debt and they agreed to pull forward
:22:16. > :22:20.that servicing day to coincide with the pageant. So the Thames barrier
:22:20. > :22:29.will start to close in about half an hour. It should be fully closed
:22:29. > :22:32.by 10:30am and that will still the tides. The water will be 1.8 metres
:22:32. > :22:40.below the high water mark and it will make the what a benign for the
:22:40. > :22:49.day. What do you think is the image from this regatta? That people
:22:49. > :22:56.carry with them? For me, the biggest moment is a royal barge.
:22:56. > :23:03.She is absolutely stunningly converted. She is a palace on the
:23:03. > :23:10.water. And would say. Than the traditional state barge from those
:23:10. > :23:16.images. The craftsmanship involved with the canape and the floral
:23:16. > :23:20.displays themselves, absolutely breathtaking. The Queen herself
:23:20. > :23:27.welcome on a boat that was part of the Royal Yacht Britannia, which
:23:28. > :23:33.she loved so much? I was very keen to integrate Britannia into the
:23:33. > :23:39.pageant. Three vessels have come down and they would re-enact what
:23:39. > :23:45.used to happen when she would transfer from shore or to ship. She
:23:45. > :23:49.was step aboard the Royal barge of Britannia, conveyed to the eventual
:23:49. > :23:55.transfer from Britannia's Royal barge on to the Royal barge for the
:23:55. > :24:04.day. You have some wonderful music can? Including an ancient Scottish
:24:04. > :24:08.Pipe Band but also a floating Belfry? What is that about?
:24:08. > :24:14.fortunately contacted the White Chapel bell foundry and said if
:24:14. > :24:21.they had any orders for the Jubilee and there was one. Eight Bells
:24:21. > :24:25.being commissioned for the City church of St James. Unfortunately
:24:25. > :24:33.again, the churchwardens have allowed us to borrow their bells
:24:33. > :24:37.for today's flotilla. I have designed a floating Belfry and
:24:37. > :24:43.those bells will peel from the Thames, heralding the start of the
:24:44. > :24:47.procession. The idea from all of these music barges, 10 of them,
:24:47. > :24:53.going back to the London Philharmonic Orchestra at the tail-
:24:53. > :24:57.end. Clearly, this harks back to the great processions of the first
:24:57. > :25:02.Queen Elizabeth. Do you think it might encourage people to use the
:25:02. > :25:09.Thames more in the future? A lot of the time it seems under-used.
:25:09. > :25:14.think so. The relationship between London and its river has changed
:25:14. > :25:18.enormously over the last 30 years. It used to be permitted and we
:25:18. > :25:23.turned our back on it, effectively. It is now the cleanest metropolitan
:25:23. > :25:28.river in the world and we are proud of it and we have this wonderful
:25:28. > :25:36.walkways, fabulous architecture and the flotilla today is the icing on
:25:36. > :25:41.the cake for the regenerated Thames. I must ask about the weather, we
:25:41. > :25:51.can see that it looks a little bit like a painting by Monet at the
:25:51. > :25:52.
:25:52. > :25:57.moment, all green and hazy? Like Whistler. It will burn off. There
:25:57. > :26:01.are so much patriotic enthusiasm and pride in all of those taking
:26:01. > :26:05.part that I think all that will reflect off the river and into the
:26:05. > :26:11.hearts of the millions along the river bank. Pageant Master, thank
:26:11. > :26:14.you very much for joining us and good luck! All of the Queen's most
:26:14. > :26:18.important roles has not been discussed much among the
:26:18. > :26:22.celebrations and that is as head of the Church or Supreme Governor of
:26:22. > :26:26.the Church of England. The position dates back to the time of the first
:26:26. > :26:30.Queen Elizabeth when the Protestant Anglican Church was established.
:26:30. > :26:34.The Bishop of London is one of the most senior figures in the Church,
:26:34. > :26:37.staying very close to the royal family and he gave the address at
:26:37. > :26:43.the Royal wedding last year. I have been speaking to him about the
:26:43. > :26:49.relationship between the Church, state and monarchy. When the Queen
:26:49. > :26:53.was crowned she became defender of the faith. What does that mean?
:26:53. > :27:03.is a title given in Latton in which there are no definite articles. The
:27:03. > :27:05.
:27:05. > :27:09.actual title can mean defender of faith or defender of the faith. In
:27:09. > :27:15.contemporary England, it was made clear by the Queen earlier this
:27:15. > :27:19.year when she spoke about the Palace and it is that she
:27:19. > :27:23.recognises the extraordinary contribution of faith in
:27:23. > :27:28.communities generally to the spiritual health and vigour of this
:27:28. > :27:34.community, this nation. But she does so from the point of view of
:27:34. > :27:39.belonging to one of them. To one of those faiths. There was a kerfuffle
:27:39. > :27:44.when the Prince of Wales said, many years ago, that he wanted to be
:27:44. > :27:48.known as defender of Faith, when he became monarch. But that would not
:27:48. > :27:52.necessarily be a problem for the Church of England? He has
:27:52. > :27:57.subsequently made it clear, very clear, what he means and it was
:27:57. > :28:04.utterly accurate as a translation of the Latin. And that means that
:28:04. > :28:07.the Prince of Wales sees very clearly important contributions of
:28:07. > :28:10.faith communities but that certainly does not in any way call
:28:10. > :28:15.into question his membership of one of them, the Church of England.
:28:15. > :28:18.there has been a process of reform applied to the monarchy recently.
:28:19. > :28:26.It isn't acceptable for the heir to the throne to marry a Catholic, for
:28:26. > :28:31.instance. And women and men will have the same rights of succession.
:28:31. > :28:37.Is there a danger of starting to pull away at the original Act of
:28:37. > :28:41.Settlement and make these kinds of changes? Does it start to draw into
:28:41. > :28:48.controversy, other aspects of the relationship between the Church and
:28:48. > :28:54.the monarchy? The essential thing isn't something negative, excluding
:28:54. > :29:00.people on the basis that they -- that no longer exists, not to say
:29:00. > :29:05.it is impossible for people belonging to a certain Church to
:29:05. > :29:10.come to the throne because that Church has changed. But what is
:29:10. > :29:15.essential is to whoever is on the throne should subsequently
:29:15. > :29:21.subscribe actively been the parliamentary democracy that has
:29:21. > :29:25.developed over the centuries. are people who say, look, at the
:29:25. > :29:30.moment there are more Roman Catholics in this country going to
:29:30. > :29:37.church and Anglicans. It would be a good thing for the Church of
:29:37. > :29:40.England to lose its special place and be out there, fighting
:29:40. > :29:45.alongside the other churches and the Pentecostal Church, it would
:29:45. > :29:47.revive the Church of England? of the reasons the establishment of
:29:47. > :29:57.the Church of England is so explicitly supported by people like
:29:57. > :30:00.
:30:00. > :30:03.the Chief Rabbi and by people like the distinguished Muslim political
:30:03. > :30:08.scientist is that an minimal Anglican establishment is a way of
:30:08. > :30:14.serving the whole constituency and keeping the voice of faith in the
:30:14. > :30:18.public square. What we are facing, as you know, is an attempt to
:30:18. > :30:22.exclude the voices of any faith community, not talking about some
:30:22. > :30:32.sort of conflict within, we are talking about the real attempt to
:30:32. > :30:36.
:30:36. > :30:43.relegate to the margins of life the I think it is a clear danger. I'm
:30:43. > :30:47.not hysterical about it. I think we would Yuri foolish to exaggerate --
:30:47. > :30:50.the very foolish to exaggerate the extent to which this is the case.
:30:50. > :30:55.When there is an attempt to ban something like prayers before the
:30:55. > :31:01.meeting of Bideford Council, it is so evidently observe that it is a
:31:01. > :31:05.terrific own goal. -- absurd. We have a different tradition from
:31:05. > :31:09.people in the Continent. We want the voice of faith in the public
:31:09. > :31:16.square. This is the important thing. One of the important effect of that
:31:16. > :31:20.is that we do not have religious communities speaking words Offiah
:31:20. > :31:25.amongst consenting adults offstage. They have to justify what they
:31:25. > :31:31.believe in the course of reason and general discourse. But the Church
:31:31. > :31:36.of England has a particular role here. People pay more attention to
:31:36. > :31:41.what is being said at Synod and between bishops, perhaps, than they
:31:41. > :31:46.do with other churches and other faiths. That is why when you have
:31:46. > :31:52.arguments about gay priests or gay bishops, or indeed female bishops
:31:52. > :31:59.inside the church, it has so much more resonance? We have public
:31:59. > :32:03.arguments because we are not a very command and control institution. We
:32:03. > :32:07.are a massive leap devolved institution. We have arguments on
:32:07. > :32:10.behalf of the rest of the community. These are important social
:32:10. > :32:15.questions. The fact we are having arguments about them is another way
:32:15. > :32:19.in which the Establishment is serving the general good. You know
:32:19. > :32:22.the Royal Family well. You have been close to them for a long time.
:32:22. > :32:27.What do you make of the argument that we still hear from time do
:32:27. > :32:33.time that actually the succession should pass directly to Prince
:32:33. > :32:38.William? Avoiding his father? Is that completely out of court, that
:32:38. > :32:44.kind of talk?, Dean of the Chapel Royal to muse on such a thing would
:32:44. > :32:49.be treason. I would be off to the tower straight away. The Diamond
:32:49. > :32:54.Jubilee of Queen Victoria in 1897, republican sentiment in the country
:32:54. > :32:57.was far more pronounced. It was far more generally felt that it is now.
:32:57. > :33:02.There are all sorts of celebrations around this weekend, at different
:33:02. > :33:06.times. A very important service in St Paul's over the a road from
:33:06. > :33:14.where we are talking. Tell us a little bit about that. That is a
:33:14. > :33:19.fascinating contrast to 1897, again. We also had a service them. But
:33:19. > :33:24.Queen Victoria was actually younger than our present mark. Could not
:33:24. > :33:27.get up the steps. She could not get out of her carriage. The carriage
:33:27. > :33:31.came to the bottom of the great steps of St Paul's. It was the
:33:31. > :33:37.clergy, the Quaye and the congregation that came out, and we
:33:37. > :33:41.had it in the open air. I must conclude by asking when the Church
:33:41. > :33:46.are looking for a new Archbishop of Canterbury, we read that you have
:33:46. > :33:50.ruled yourself out? I put myself up for election to the body which
:33:50. > :33:56.chooses the new Archbishop of stopped which means you cannot be a
:33:56. > :34:01.candidate? What happened is that when they sent be the first date,
:34:01. > :34:04.it was a date in which I was welcoming the new Dean of St Paul's.
:34:04. > :34:09.I'm afraid I was not able to take that course. It would be very
:34:09. > :34:12.strange for the Archbishop to retire to make way for an older man.
:34:12. > :34:17.Thank you very much indeed for speaking to us.
:34:17. > :34:21.So, what do you give to the woman who probably has everything she
:34:21. > :34:24.wants as a Diamond Jubilee present? One answer is apparently the
:34:25. > :34:29.official Diamond Jubilee song, written by Andrew Lloyd Webber and
:34:29. > :34:32.Gary Barlow, who has devised a huge concert from Buckingham Palace. The
:34:32. > :34:36.song features 200 musicians from around the Commonwealth. We are
:34:36. > :34:46.going to be hearing from one of them, the aboriginal singer
:34:46. > :35:03.
:35:03. > :35:12.Gurrumul. Here is a glimpse of him Well, Gurrumul and his friend and
:35:12. > :35:17.become pianist Michael Hohnen are Tell us about where Gurrumul comes
:35:17. > :35:23.from, it is not what we would think of as mainland Australia? It is a
:35:23. > :35:26.picturesque, idyllic island, from the north coast of Australia.
:35:26. > :35:30.Gurrumul does not speak English, which is why we are talking to you.
:35:30. > :35:35.The song is written in his language and it refers to the island as
:35:35. > :35:42.well? It does. It refers to his people. If you like, it is a
:35:42. > :35:47.patriotic song just for his plan. Talking of patriotic songs, what is
:35:47. > :35:52.the reputation of the Queen amongst Aboriginal people in Australia?
:35:52. > :36:01.They revere her. She has been around so wrong, she is on a coin,
:36:01. > :36:05.her head is on the money. She is revered very highly by people.
:36:05. > :36:10.we are going to see Gurrumul playing his guitar in an unorthodox
:36:10. > :36:14.way? When he was growing up on the island, all of the guitars were
:36:14. > :36:18.strong for people who are right handed. So he just picked it up,
:36:18. > :36:22.flipped it upside down because he is left-handed, and taught himself
:36:22. > :36:30.to play. Being blind, he didn't know which way it was meant to be
:36:30. > :36:36.played? He is going to be playing later, for the Queen? He will be
:36:36. > :36:40.playing the song for the Jubilee. He also sings in that song. Let's
:36:40. > :36:50.hear the song that you are going to be playing. Fantastic. Thank you
:36:50. > :36:50.
:36:50. > :38:53.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 123 seconds
:38:53. > :38:59.Fantastic. Later, many people are going to be settling down to
:38:59. > :39:03.slightly damp lunches at street parties. Special lunches are being
:39:03. > :39:12.held in Commonwealth countries as well, including Pakistan, where the
:39:12. > :39:18.weather is slightly different. is 43 degrees. These people have
:39:18. > :39:28.still managed to come out for lunches around the Commonwealth.
:39:28. > :39:29.
:39:29. > :39:34.There was a band going a short while ago. We have a lunch going on,
:39:34. > :39:44.here. The jubilee lunch with chicken Derry Arnie. We have a
:39:44. > :39:51.
:39:51. > :39:57.couple of guests to talk about this. I think she symbolises the
:39:57. > :40:03.historical past with the country. Particularly the head of state,
:40:03. > :40:07.concerned about culture, values. When she came she was concerned
:40:07. > :40:16.about the religious values of the people. She came to the mosque, she
:40:16. > :40:23.took off her shoes, she covered her hair and she was very polite. She
:40:23. > :40:29.was interested in the mosque, the structure and architecture. She was
:40:29. > :40:35.also concerned about why we have these inscriptions. It indicates a
:40:35. > :40:41.desire to learn about the people. You have a personal connection,
:40:41. > :40:44.having met her. Let's speak to somebody here, 11 years old, he is
:40:44. > :40:50.the drummer in the school band. You were not born when the Queen came
:40:51. > :41:00.here. What does she mean to you? She is very polite and a very
:41:01. > :41:06.
:41:06. > :41:12.honest woman. I like her very much. She is very much respected. And you
:41:12. > :41:21.remember why you are celebrating? Because the Queen has ruled England
:41:21. > :41:26.for almost 60 years. Very well remembered. Thank you very much. I
:41:26. > :41:31.will let you into a tiny secret, he was not entirely sure why he was
:41:31. > :41:36.here today, well remembered. They are not that many events like this
:41:36. > :41:39.going on in Pakistan. When the last one came along, the Royal Wedding,
:41:39. > :41:45.about 20 Pakistani channels were showing the event live. People
:41:45. > :41:48.across the country were gripped, mesmerised by the pageantry. I'm
:41:48. > :41:51.sure it will be the same today, not just here but across the
:41:51. > :41:55.Commonwealth. The Queen must be one of the most
:41:55. > :42:00.recognisable figures in the world. Her image is certainly everywhere
:42:00. > :42:03.this weekend. We feel that we know her, but do we really? What is she
:42:03. > :42:10.really like? I spent some time last year following her around, filming
:42:11. > :42:14.here at home and abroad for the Diamond Queen series. Two themes
:42:14. > :42:18.which came across very strongly were how skilfully the Queen has
:42:18. > :42:24.adapted the monarchy to the modern world and the importance of her 65
:42:24. > :42:28.year marriage to Prince Philip. The support that he gives to my
:42:28. > :42:32.grandmother, it is phenomenal. Regardless of whether my
:42:32. > :42:35.grandfather is what seems to be doing his own thing, or wandering
:42:35. > :42:40.off down the river, the fact that he is there, I personally don't
:42:40. > :42:44.think she could do it without him. Especially when they are both at
:42:44. > :42:49.the Sage. There is quite a lot of pressure Ron somebody like me, as a
:42:49. > :42:53.junior boy coming through, because of the example of the Queen has set
:42:53. > :42:57.while she is still there, providing such a good example. It allows me
:42:57. > :43:04.to learn, to develop and understand better what the role play is. I
:43:04. > :43:07.think that she defines it brilliantly. Every time I find
:43:07. > :43:11.myself whingeing about why I have to put on a dinner jacket and do
:43:11. > :43:15.this and that, recently I have been thinking, actually, I can't
:43:15. > :43:20.complain. At the end of the day, she put this country way before
:43:20. > :43:25.anything she would ever want to do. It is her job, understandably. But
:43:25. > :43:29.at a very young age she was put in a position, I would love to see
:43:29. > :43:34.anybody handle that. I don't think there would be able to as well as
:43:34. > :43:38.she has. The Queen has managed to bring the monarchy into the 21st
:43:38. > :43:42.century, as best as she can. Every organisation needs to look at
:43:43. > :43:46.itself. The monarchy is a constantly evolving machine. It
:43:46. > :43:54.really wants to reflect society and move with the times. It is
:43:54. > :43:57.important that it does, for its own Outside her family and the Royal
:43:57. > :44:01.Household, the person who probably sees most of the Queen is the prime
:44:01. > :44:05.minister. They meet every week to queue -- she wove a national and
:44:05. > :44:10.world events for at least an hour, entirely alone. It seems to be
:44:10. > :44:15.something of a therapy session for occupants of Number Ten. The Queen
:44:16. > :44:19.is the only person that they can trust not to leak their innermost
:44:19. > :44:23.thoughts and concerns. David Cameron is her 12 prime minister
:44:23. > :44:27.and I spoke to him at Downing Street about the relationship.
:44:27. > :44:30.Prime Minister, when you first went in to see the Queen after the
:44:30. > :44:34.election, you were not quite sure if he would be Prime Minister or
:44:34. > :44:42.what kind of government, if any, you would be leading. Did you come
:44:42. > :44:46.out of the meeting feeling It was an extraordinary feeling
:44:46. > :44:50.going into Buckingham Palace and making her Majesty. And being asked
:44:50. > :44:57.to form a government but doubly extraordinary because I had to say,
:44:57. > :45:00.I'll do my best and I cannot guarantee I'll do. But she was
:45:00. > :45:03.reassuring and did manage to come to pass but it is an extraordinary
:45:03. > :45:08.moment because you are treading were 12 prime ministers have been
:45:09. > :45:14.before. And new for her, the thought of a coalition. It has been
:45:14. > :45:20.a tough couple of years for the country. How would you job have
:45:20. > :45:24.been different had do not have the Queen there, week by week? It is
:45:24. > :45:29.very important for a Prime Minister, I find it a huge benefit to have
:45:29. > :45:34.one hour every week were you go to see her Majesty and you set out the
:45:34. > :45:41.big issues of the week. It will normally involve one or two foreign
:45:41. > :45:48.affairs or defence issues but also domestic. Not just you reporting?
:45:48. > :45:52.It is a conversation. It is very helpful because when you set out to
:45:52. > :45:58.someone who has heard everything like this before, who has seen
:45:58. > :46:02.crisis coming I'm going, governments coming I'm going, when
:46:02. > :46:08.you set out the approach you are taking and why you think you need
:46:08. > :46:12.to do things, with her huge experience, she always seems to cut
:46:12. > :46:17.through a all the nonsense and get to the key common sense. That
:46:17. > :46:24.really matters about things. About foreign affairs, enormous
:46:24. > :46:29.experience. 261 foreign visits in 60 years, 116 countries. There is
:46:29. > :46:35.hardly a head of state she has not met. She has huge amounts of
:46:35. > :46:39.knowledge and experience. She is a formidable lady, physically as well
:46:39. > :46:43.as in other ways. But she is getting on, do you think after this
:46:43. > :46:51.Jubilee Parade there will be a different way of managing the
:46:51. > :46:57.monarchy? My experience is she is someone who seems to have enormous
:46:57. > :47:03.physical strength. She is incredibly good and strong and in
:47:03. > :47:07.health and her insight, her sharpness is extraordinary. Having
:47:07. > :47:14.watched her as a politician and as Prime Minister, I do not see any
:47:14. > :47:19.sign of her working less hard. She is extremely devoted as a public
:47:19. > :47:23.servant, to her paperwork and duties. You never see her saying, I
:47:23. > :47:29.am going to step back. I often see her at the end of the day when she
:47:29. > :47:32.has travelled to the furthest corner of the UK, she has held end
:47:33. > :47:37.vestiges in Buckingham Palace and has said goodbye to ambassadors and
:47:37. > :47:45.she still has time for the Prime Minister to tell her all of us
:47:45. > :47:50.problems! Do you think therefore that abdication is completely out
:47:50. > :47:55.of the question and do you think that the idea of going... Skipping
:47:55. > :48:01.a generation to Prince William, is that out of the genera -- out of
:48:01. > :48:08.the question? I think so, in pursuing her duties, she has been
:48:08. > :48:11.100% dedicated, professional and it is hard to think ever put in any
:48:11. > :48:16.foot wrong and you get the sense that she will go on doing the
:48:16. > :48:20.amazing job she has done for this country as long as she possibly can
:48:20. > :48:24.and you never see any sign of that devotion getting any less. We have
:48:24. > :48:29.the pageantry coming over the wall at the moment. How do you think
:48:29. > :48:33.Britain would have been different as a country, had we not had a
:48:33. > :48:39.monarch as well as the Prime Minister? We would have had less
:48:39. > :48:43.stability. One of the great things that a royal family brings Attar
:48:43. > :48:47.Majesty the Queen personally brings is the sense of national unity and
:48:47. > :48:52.stability, someone who the whole country can identify with. It does
:48:52. > :48:55.not matter whether people are Labour or Conservative or Liberal
:48:55. > :49:00.Democrat, at the head of the state there is somebody that the whole
:49:00. > :49:04.country can look up to, a symbol of national unity and continuity that
:49:04. > :49:08.links British people with our institutions and history and our
:49:08. > :49:14.relationships with other countries and the Commonwealth. All of those
:49:14. > :49:19.things up to anchor us. It is a great source of strength. Domestic
:49:19. > :49:22.issues. No budget in living memory has seen so many parts of it
:49:22. > :49:28.unravelling so quickly. What lessons have you learnt for the
:49:28. > :49:30.future? They first thing to say is that the heart of the budget were
:49:30. > :49:33.two very important things. Delivering a tax cut to every
:49:33. > :49:38.working person in the country by lifting the threshold at which you
:49:38. > :49:43.start to pay income tax, which means taking 2 million people out
:49:43. > :49:49.of paying tax altogether. And we did cut the top rate of tax because
:49:49. > :49:54.you cannot run an enterprise economy if you are uncompetitive.
:49:54. > :49:59.What about the mistakes? We had to make changes. What about say is,
:49:59. > :50:02.when you have something wrong, there are two things you can do,
:50:02. > :50:05.you can ploughed on regardless or you can listen and change and get
:50:05. > :50:10.it right and that is what we have done and that is the right thing.
:50:10. > :50:16.Some people would say that it looks week? We have taken very difficult
:50:16. > :50:20.decisions. On the deficit, which be cut by one quarter in two years, on
:50:20. > :50:24.public sector pay, reforming public sector pensions, standing up to
:50:24. > :50:30.public sector strikes. Nobody thinks this Government lacks
:50:30. > :50:37.resolve, strength and great. And it also has the courage to say, if we
:50:37. > :50:41.got something wrong, let's change it. After Jeremy Hunt's evidence to
:50:42. > :50:47.the Leveson Inquiry, you clear to him at lightning speed. Some people
:50:47. > :50:53.would say that the reason for that is that, given his closeness to the
:50:53. > :50:55.Murdoch BSkyB made, in a sense, it was not his fault, he was put in an
:50:55. > :51:02.impossible position and the person whose fault it was was the person
:51:02. > :51:06.who gave him the job? I did not -- I did not want to give anyone the
:51:06. > :51:09.job, I wanted to give Vince Cable a job, the person appointed as
:51:10. > :51:15.Business Secretary. I had to change things because Vince Cable said he
:51:15. > :51:19.was going to war, privately, with an important media company. If he
:51:19. > :51:24.had gone to war with the BBC or British Telecom, I would have been
:51:24. > :51:28.under huge pressure. I had to take a decision and I listened carefully
:51:28. > :51:31.to the advice that I had and the most straightforward thing to do
:51:31. > :51:35.was to transfer that part of his responsibility into the most
:51:35. > :51:39.closely related department, the Department of Culture Media and
:51:39. > :51:43.Sport. I looked carefully at what Jeremy Hunt said publicly and I
:51:43. > :51:47.took the advice of the Cabinet Secretary, who took legal advice,
:51:47. > :51:51.and what he said publicly was more powerful than anything he said
:51:51. > :51:59.privately and on that basis, and given the job. The key thing is, if
:51:59. > :52:02.you look at how he conducted that job, how he gave himself very small
:52:02. > :52:09.room to move or - burkha to manoeuvre in terms of on and that
:52:09. > :52:12.bid process, and we reached those conclusions. You can also see the
:52:12. > :52:16.very friendly tone of this text messages on the very day that he
:52:16. > :52:21.was getting the job, that does not look good. Had he known about that,
:52:21. > :52:24.would you have taken the same decision? The advice and was given
:52:24. > :52:28.was what mattered was not what Jeremy Hunt said publicly or
:52:28. > :52:33.privately but how he was going to conduct himself during the bid.
:52:33. > :52:37.That is how we should judge him. Did he adjudicate this wisely and
:52:37. > :52:42.fairly? He did, he took legal advice, at every stage and he
:52:42. > :52:46.followed that legal advice, and he did many things that are not in the
:52:46. > :52:49.interests of BSkyB. And that's out of things. And I think he give a
:52:49. > :52:53.very good account of himself to the Leveson Inquiry, a good account of
:52:53. > :52:58.himself to Parliament and that is the key thing. He is now safe in
:52:58. > :53:04.his job. In the job at Christmas? We are about to welcome not only
:53:04. > :53:07.the Jubilee celebrations this weekend but also the world with the
:53:07. > :53:11.Olympics and I think the preparations which the department
:53:11. > :53:14.has overseen have been very good but there is still vital work to do
:53:14. > :53:18.to keep the country safe and keep the transport arteries moving and
:53:18. > :53:24.make sure those Olympic Games are a success and Jeremy Hunt is the
:53:24. > :53:28.right person. Thicker. You might have noticed the military band
:53:28. > :53:34.accompanying David Cameron from the other side of the wall. That was a
:53:34. > :53:37.rehearsal for the Trooping the Colour. Now the news headlines...
:53:37. > :53:41.The Prime Minister insists the Government has resolved strength
:53:41. > :53:45.and great, despite the recent U- turn over the government -- the
:53:45. > :53:48.budget. David Cameron defended Jeremy Hunt, saying he had given a
:53:48. > :53:52.good account of himself to the Leveson Inquiry and was the right
:53:52. > :53:57.person to much of the Olympic Games is a success. He also paid tribute
:53:57. > :53:59.to the Queen on her Diamond Jubilee, saying that her insight and
:53:59. > :54:03.shoppers were extraordinary and he described her as an extremely
:54:03. > :54:07.devoted public servant. A British soldier who was killed and
:54:07. > :54:12.Afghanistan on Friday has been named as Corporal Michael Thacker
:54:12. > :54:17.from South Wales. The 27 year-old is served with First Battalion the
:54:17. > :54:21.Royal Welsh was manning an observation post in a district in
:54:21. > :54:25.Helmand Province when his patrol came under attack. And the Queen's
:54:25. > :54:30.Diamond Jubilee celebrations will take to the water in a few dollars.
:54:30. > :54:33.Some of the 1000 boats that will sail down the River Thames already
:54:33. > :54:37.mustering, with and 20,000 people are taking part in the pageant and
:54:37. > :54:42.many more are expected to line the banks of the river to see the
:54:42. > :54:50.historic procession. That's all for now, the next news is at 1pm. Back
:54:50. > :54:54.to Andrew but first, and look at what is coming up after the show...
:54:54. > :55:00.Clones and Glasgow, as Kofi Annan except Syria is on the brink of
:55:00. > :55:02.civil war. Is it immoral not to intervene? And as a Scottish
:55:02. > :55:06.Parliament votes to protect Scotland in the welfare reforms,
:55:06. > :55:09.should benefit be different in Scotland? And a host of playwrights
:55:09. > :55:15.and journalists and this great audience will chip in with
:55:15. > :55:22.questions. Is the Jubilee showing Britain at its best? Andrew?
:55:22. > :55:27.heard from the Aboriginal musician Gurrumul earlier. And he will be
:55:27. > :55:30.performing in that great concert tomorrow. Another group involved is
:55:30. > :55:38.the African Children's Choir, which helps orphans and vulnerable
:55:38. > :55:48.children and its founder is with me. Welcome. Tell us about how the idea
:55:48. > :55:54.for this came about? It is back to 1984. East Africa, the famine, the
:55:54. > :55:58.northern part of Uganda was ridden with that famine. By got
:55:58. > :56:03.discouraged by seeing all of those famine pictures and I had the idea
:56:03. > :56:09.that the world needed to save how bright, beautiful and dignified the
:56:10. > :56:14.African child was. So we formed the choir and started to ring in 1984
:56:14. > :56:21.or to help all children who were vulnerable. And whereabouts are you
:56:21. > :56:31.based? Well, there are different bases. Uganda, Kenya, South Africa.
:56:31. > :56:37.And I particularly... Where are you from? Uganda. Are you excited about
:56:37. > :56:41.tomorrow? Yes, I am excited. It is going to be a wonderful moment. We
:56:41. > :56:46.will hear from all of you in the second. Thank you. That's all we
:56:46. > :56:51.have time for. Join me again next Sunday when it will be back to