:00:41. > :00:43.Good morning. After the Jubilee celebrations, some are looking
:00:43. > :00:49.forward to the future of the monarchy. There's a strange
:00:49. > :00:55.coincidence of stories in this morning's Sunday Times. A poll
:00:55. > :01:01.showing Prince Charles, not Prince William, is now most popular choice.
:01:01. > :01:03.That has not happened for long time and then you turn inside. Second, a
:01:03. > :01:06.story revealing that plants, corn saplings to be precise, not only
:01:06. > :01:10.make sounds, little clicks, but when the sounds are played at them
:01:10. > :01:13.by loudspeakers, respond. They can here. It was of course Prince
:01:13. > :01:16.Charles who once perhaps unwisely revealed that he liked to talk to
:01:16. > :01:21.plants and "they respond, I find." Cue much laughter. Well, the world
:01:21. > :01:24.is most stranger than we think. Joining me today for our review of
:01:24. > :01:27.the Sunday newspapers we have media old and new. Philip Collins writes
:01:27. > :01:35.for The Times. And Carla Buzasi is Editor in Chief of The Huffington
:01:35. > :01:37.Post UK. That's the online newspaper. So with another 100
:01:37. > :01:41.billion euros earmarked to help Spanish banks, 100 billion, just
:01:41. > :01:45.what can be done to get our struggling economies moving again?
:01:45. > :01:50.One man who knows about growth is Sir Terry Leahy who made Tesco by
:01:50. > :01:53.one measure, the world's third biggest retailer. He'll tell us
:01:53. > :02:00.about how he did it. And answer claims that Tesco has hollowed out
:02:00. > :02:02.the High Street. And of course, one consequence of the eurozone chaos
:02:02. > :02:05.may be further migration into Britain. The Home Secretary Theresa
:02:05. > :02:09.May will reveal new plans to bring the numbers down. The government's
:02:09. > :02:17.failed so far. And we'll be talking to her about whether British voters
:02:17. > :02:19.deserve their own say, a referendum, on Europe. Speaking of European
:02:19. > :02:23.immigrants to Blighty, the fictional Belgian detective Hercule
:02:23. > :02:29.Poirot never had to worry about that kind of thing. David Suchet is
:02:29. > :02:31.planning a new series and he has a play in the West End as well. As
:02:31. > :02:34.England prepare for their opening Euro 2012 match in Ukraine tomorrow,
:02:34. > :02:41.racism threatens to cast a shadow over the tournament. The Chairman
:02:41. > :02:44.of the Players Union tells us what he thinks the authorities should do.
:02:44. > :02:51.Finally, the Queen of Indie Pop, getting ready to headline more
:02:51. > :02:54.festivals this summer. Florence and her Machine are here with a
:02:54. > :03:01.stripped down version of one of their new songs. Busy morning.
:03:01. > :03:04.Let's kick off with the news with Good morning. The Chancellor,
:03:04. > :03:07.George Osborne, has warned that the debt crisis in the Eurozone is
:03:07. > :03:10.killing off Britain's chances of economic recovery. In an article in
:03:10. > :03:14.the Sunday Telegraph, he says he's frustrated that EU leaders have
:03:15. > :03:17.failed to stabilise the single currency. His comments come as
:03:17. > :03:23.officials in Washington and Berlin welcomed Spain's request for
:03:23. > :03:28.financial help from the eurozone for its troubled banks.
:03:28. > :03:33.After repeated denials that it needed international help, last
:03:33. > :03:39.night, Spain admitted what many had feared, that it would seek a bail-
:03:39. > :03:43.out for its ailing banks. After a call to European finance ministers
:03:43. > :03:48.that lasted two-and-a-half hours, Spain's economy minister confirmed
:03:48. > :03:53.the country would ask for support from Europe. But Spain is keen to
:03:53. > :03:57.point out that this is not a rescue. There are no tough conditions
:03:57. > :04:03.attached like those demanded of Greece. Spain, though, has not said
:04:03. > :04:07.how much it will need. Despite reports it could be as much as 100
:04:07. > :04:13.billion euros. Instead, Spain will wait for the result of an audit due
:04:13. > :04:17.within the next two weeks. TRANSLATION: No other system in
:04:18. > :04:23.Europe is as transparent or clear. We will see the figures and from
:04:23. > :04:27.then on we will go on into the details. But the financial markets
:04:28. > :04:32.could deliver a verdict much sooner than that audit. Spain is the 4th
:04:32. > :04:35.largest economy in at the eurozone and that is worrying for investors.
:04:35. > :04:45.They are likely to judge whether Spain has done us when trade begins
:04:45. > :04:47.
:04:47. > :04:51.The spotlight then shipped back to Greece where voters go to the polls
:04:52. > :04:55.again. That has been seen as a referendum on the euro. It may
:04:55. > :04:59.bring clarity to Greece, but could equally plunged Europe back into
:04:59. > :05:02.turmoil. People in France are voting today, in the first round of
:05:02. > :05:05.parliamentary elections. The result will determine whether the new
:05:05. > :05:07.President, Francois Hollande, is able to push through radical tax
:05:07. > :05:15.and spending policies, to try to tackle the government's deficit,
:05:15. > :05:18.without cutting welfare budgets. More rain is expected in Wales
:05:18. > :05:20.today, and one flood warning remains in place, because of high
:05:21. > :05:25.river levels. A clean up has started after severe flooding
:05:25. > :05:28.yesterday led to a major rescue operation. About 1,000 people were
:05:28. > :05:31.forced to leave their homes after five inches of rain fell in 24
:05:31. > :05:34.hours. The number of people affected by
:05:34. > :05:39.the outbreak of Legionnaires disease in Edinburgh has risen to
:05:39. > :05:43.36. One person has died and 15 are in intensive care. Health officials
:05:43. > :05:47.expect the number of cases to start falling this week. They are still
:05:47. > :05:49.trying to confirm the source of the infection.
:05:49. > :05:52.Children at all primary schools in England will learn foreign
:05:52. > :05:55.languages, if a proposed overhaul of the national curriculum goes
:05:55. > :05:58.ahead. The Education Secretary Michael Gove says making language
:05:58. > :06:03.lessons compulsory for the first time would help future generations
:06:03. > :06:08.compete in a global economy. There are also plans to change the way
:06:08. > :06:12.English is taught, with a greater emphasis on spelling and grammar.
:06:12. > :06:22.That's all from me, for now. I'll be back just before ten o'clock
:06:22. > :06:27.Thank you, Naga. Now, on the front pages today. Everyone has different
:06:27. > :06:34.stories this morning. The Telegraph has the George Osborne story and a
:06:34. > :06:38.picture of Guantanamo Bay. The Mail on Sunday has gone for top stores
:06:38. > :06:47.being attacked for allowing people to gamble while they are shopping
:06:47. > :06:51.online. The Observer newspaper has a picture about something we will
:06:51. > :06:56.talk about later on. A young people have to rent rather than buy houses.
:06:56. > :07:02.The world has changed for them. Lots of football, of course. Roy
:07:02. > :07:06.Hodgson, no sweat. The Sunday Times, they have got a story about judges
:07:06. > :07:10.being told to get tough on immigrants. That is what we're
:07:10. > :07:13.going to talk to Theresa May about, as well, and finally the
:07:13. > :07:18.Independent on Sunday has Eric Pickles, that the committee
:07:18. > :07:23.secretary, talking about problem families. We will discuss that with
:07:23. > :07:33.our two wonderful paper review was. The Times and the macro or
:07:33. > :07:36.
:07:37. > :07:43.xylophone. Carla Buzasi from the Huffington Post UK. And Phil
:07:44. > :07:48.Collins from the Times. The this is a story in the Times, a story which
:07:48. > :07:57.has been running for a few weeks now. There's been some great TV
:07:57. > :08:02.programmes about it. People have been exposed for trolling on it
:08:02. > :08:06.Twitter. It is being at unbelievably abusive and personally
:08:06. > :08:10.offensive whilst hiding behind anonymity. Absolutely pulls up you
:08:10. > :08:16.sit on comments on it Facebook, Twitter, and it's becoming more and
:08:16. > :08:21.more prevalent on the sites. We finally have someone who has got
:08:21. > :08:26.the police involved and is forcing Facebook to reveal their identities.
:08:26. > :08:33.It's not their actual identities but there internet address. There
:08:33. > :08:39.is no guarantee who will -- who has left the Commons will be found out.
:08:39. > :08:43.We are going to see a mass of potentially big lawsuits. Less
:08:44. > :08:49.anonymity on the internet. Absolutely. It's hard to avoid the
:08:49. > :08:53.Spanish bale-out. Critics of the European Union always always say
:08:53. > :08:57.the bad thing about it is there is this horrible plan towards
:08:57. > :09:03.federalism but the truth is, there is no plan at all. We are lurching
:09:03. > :09:07.from one crisis to the next. The latest instalment in the slow
:09:07. > :09:11.rescue of the euro is 100 billion euros for the Spanish banks. As you
:09:11. > :09:17.can imagine, that amount of money going to Spanish banks has gone
:09:18. > :09:22.down extremely badly in Spain but it's probably still the case, the
:09:22. > :09:26.euro was a terrible idea but letting it go would be even worse,
:09:26. > :09:31.so another summit is coming up at the end of June when the Germans
:09:31. > :09:35.will be prevailed upon again, will they come forward with the capital
:09:35. > :09:39.to save it? It still remains the central question. Does the German
:09:40. > :09:45.fear of inflation stop them what they have to do? In terms of our
:09:45. > :09:49.economy, these sums are unimaginable. Here is another 100
:09:49. > :09:54.billion euros for you, but is it the case our politicians have any
:09:54. > :09:59.control over what happening to the economy and the lack of growth?
:09:59. > :10:05.are sucked into some extent. France, Germany, the eurozone has avoided
:10:05. > :10:10.recession and we haven't. You can't entirely attribute it to the
:10:10. > :10:14.eurozone. Of course, it has an effect. At the moment, the Tory
:10:14. > :10:19.party is about to indulge itself in a referendum about fantasy, which
:10:19. > :10:22.is to say a Europe which has not exist, common trading bloc without
:10:22. > :10:32.the European Union, calling for a referendum on this, is like calling
:10:32. > :10:38.
:10:38. > :10:46.for a referendum on nanny a. -- Narnia. A lot of people would like
:10:46. > :10:52.that. But it doesn't exist. have chosen a story relating to the
:10:52. > :10:56.human cost. There is a 10% rise in women over 30 having abortions and
:10:56. > :11:01.they are blaming that on at the recession forced. They are worried
:11:01. > :11:05.about their careers, more women are out of work than men have since the
:11:05. > :11:09.recession started. The pro-life lobby will seize on this and there
:11:09. > :11:13.is a quote in the story where they are saying women are using this as
:11:13. > :11:16.a quick way of getting rid of children and I don't think this is
:11:16. > :11:20.something anybody goes into in a light-hearted manner but yet
:11:20. > :11:25.another example of how the recession is affecting everybody on
:11:26. > :11:31.a personal level. It's also saying the number of teenagers having
:11:31. > :11:38.abortions has gone down. All the headlines, it's terrible, actually
:11:38. > :11:41.it is decreasing. Interesting story. We have to talk about the obvious
:11:41. > :11:46.course of Douglas Alexander, Labour politician, on a slightly
:11:46. > :11:49.unexpected story. Yes, it's always good to hear from him on football.
:11:49. > :11:54.That's what we have got in the Mail on Sunday and despite the lurid
:11:54. > :11:57.headline, the Caci makes is a very considered one. I think he's right
:11:57. > :12:01.about it. -- that case he makes will up if players are forced to
:12:01. > :12:05.walk of off-field because of racist abuse, they should be supported.
:12:05. > :12:08.They should go to the referee and ask for an intercession and if the
:12:08. > :12:12.referee does not do anything and it is intolerable and the player
:12:12. > :12:17.things, I'm not playing in these circumstances and walks off, they
:12:17. > :12:20.will be booked according to Uefa, but they should be backed. You
:12:20. > :12:24.can't play in those circumstances. We are going to talk to Clarke
:12:24. > :12:29.Carlisle from the PFA later. started quite well in the first few
:12:29. > :12:34.games but that does not appear to be a problem so far for club this
:12:34. > :12:40.is a great issues for MPs to get behind at the moment. There is also
:12:40. > :12:44.a political question. The opposition leader in the Ukraine is
:12:44. > :12:47.in prison. The British Government has a peculiar position where they
:12:47. > :12:52.are not going to go there for the group stages but if England get
:12:52. > :12:55.through they might go for the later ones. A very strange position.
:12:55. > :13:00.That's more to do with the fact that if we get through and those
:13:00. > :13:03.matches were in Poland, but they wouldn't have an issue. Your next
:13:03. > :13:09.Tory. If you're feeling a bit depressed do not buy the
:13:09. > :13:15.Independent on Sunday today. If you do, make sure you have taken Prozac
:13:15. > :13:21.first. Celebrate your big day as if it's your last. You are likely to
:13:21. > :13:24.die on your birthday. Is the end of the world coming? This is
:13:24. > :13:29.everything which is going on in America summed up in one very
:13:29. > :13:33.depressing headline. And when your Olympic dream dies, you face the
:13:33. > :13:38.nightmare alone, a sad story about people who win Olympic medals and
:13:38. > :13:42.then a left bereft afterwards for the it's true. All problems in the
:13:42. > :13:47.world, I think I could cope with that one. It has to be said the
:13:47. > :13:54.Independent on Sunday has a very, very downbeat feeling this morning.
:13:54. > :13:58.We need some royal stories. Jubilee coverage is still going on. But
:13:58. > :14:02.they don't do that so they have to fill it up with terrible stories.
:14:02. > :14:08.lot of Sunday newspapers don't have a very many old fashioned reporters
:14:08. > :14:16.left two to go out and get stories. They will be looking at Huffington
:14:16. > :14:21.Post thinking... How many actual journalists have you got? 23. A lot
:14:21. > :14:26.of papers would love that. Most of them are reporting but we also have
:14:26. > :14:36.a blog team because that's a big part of the Huffington Post. 3,000
:14:36. > :14:38.
:14:38. > :14:44.people. That is more opinion led things. 3,000 opinions? Yes, 3,000.
:14:44. > :14:49.Maybe that's the future. Government's pull your socks up
:14:49. > :14:55.merchant, Eric Pickles, is using West Side story to get into the
:14:55. > :14:58.question of problem families. They blame their parents and their
:14:58. > :15:03.background for everything. He says they've had it far too easy and we
:15:03. > :15:08.have to stop being so correct about them and start hitting them hard up.
:15:08. > :15:13.Not literally, I hope. I don't know. The interesting thing about this,
:15:14. > :15:18.there is a serious problem, and what the Government is trying to do
:15:18. > :15:23.is pay by the results they get and that the interesting thing for a
:15:23. > :15:27.policy point of view. Getting people to work? Yes, or getting
:15:27. > :15:32.children to read better, you set up a measure and you only get paid if
:15:32. > :15:36.you improve things. It's difficult to work out a child's reading
:15:36. > :15:40.standards and pay some body for that. It's difficult. The devil is
:15:40. > :15:44.in trying to work out what it is that Marx and bodies improvement.
:15:44. > :15:46.It's not impossible. It's intriguing that what they are
:15:46. > :15:53.trying to do because governments for years have tried to deal with
:15:54. > :15:58.this. Problem families. They used to be 250,000 of them in and now
:15:58. > :16:02.they are saying it's half that. However many you get, they do
:16:02. > :16:09.commit the vast majority of crime, so he's not wrong to think there is
:16:09. > :16:19.a serious problem here. OK. We're running out of time it so let's go
:16:19. > :16:23.
:16:23. > :16:26.It is a big week for the Leveson Inquiry. We keep saying it is a big
:16:26. > :16:33.week for that, which seems to have been rolling on forever, but we
:16:33. > :16:38.have David Cameron. Everybody will be watching on Wednesday. Will he
:16:38. > :16:42.get tripped up? The trilby an interesting few days. The renting
:16:42. > :16:47.story, we have mentioned already briefly, but we should acknowledge
:16:47. > :16:52.that many people will have to rent. There is a fascinating picture you
:16:52. > :16:58.have picked up. This is the flag as it might look if Scotland became
:16:58. > :17:02.independent, and the interesting thing here is not only is the
:17:02. > :17:08.Scottish move gone, but the Welsh dragon is inserted. At the moment
:17:08. > :17:12.the Union Jack does not include the dragon because it was considered a
:17:12. > :17:18.principality, but in the new design them as a Welsh dragon in the
:17:18. > :17:23.bottom corner. It seems very sad when our streets are festooned with
:17:23. > :17:29.Union Jack bunting. Unfortunately the sexual depravity of penguins is
:17:29. > :17:37.one of the stories we are unable to bring you. You will have to read
:17:37. > :17:44.the newspapers yourself. With whales underwater, heavy wind
:17:44. > :17:53.on Friday, and even where it isn't raining of brisk feel to the air,
:17:53. > :17:57.are we doomed to miss another It is another week of that to be
:17:57. > :18:02.honest. Even though some of you have some sunny weather at the
:18:02. > :18:06.moment, there will be more showers brewing in the UK today. Thicker
:18:06. > :18:12.cloud in the south of England, which is producing a few spots of
:18:12. > :18:16.rain, which will turn heavier and more persistent through the day.
:18:16. > :18:22.North of that, we continue with some sunny spells across northern
:18:22. > :18:32.England. Through the afternoon, northern England and central
:18:32. > :18:35.
:18:35. > :18:42.southern Scotland will have some heavy down -- downpours.
:18:42. > :18:50.Temperatures will stay up at about 12 degrees Celsius. For the return
:18:50. > :18:54.to work and school, it is wet across southern England. Some
:18:54. > :19:01.showers possible in the north, not as many as we saw in the weekend,
:19:01. > :19:07.but temperatures will be struggling to 16 degrees at the best. The week
:19:07. > :19:12.will be cool with showers, even longer spells of rain at times.
:19:12. > :19:18.The eurozone remains on the brink, but are we listening closely enough
:19:18. > :19:23.to the drivers in the economy? Sir Terry Leahy made Tesco the third
:19:23. > :19:27.largest retailer and at its peak the company took one in every �7
:19:27. > :19:32.spent on the UK high street, but since then it has had troubles of
:19:32. > :19:37.its own. What is his assessment of the current turmoil? A massive
:19:37. > :19:40.amount of worry about the economy in general, just give your headline
:19:40. > :19:44.in general, just give your headline thoughts on that to start with.
:19:44. > :19:48.It has been a very difficult period because there has been a double
:19:48. > :19:53.whammy - the financial crisis itself would be very difficult to
:19:53. > :19:58.recover from on its own, and you are seeing the problems in Europe,
:19:58. > :20:05.but beneath that the oil price since 2010 has nearly doubled. By
:20:05. > :20:08.some measures, that alone would not nearly 3% off growth, so Paul
:20:08. > :20:15.Western economies are struggling to manage these things at the same
:20:15. > :20:20.time. It is difficult for one economy to break free, but if I was
:20:20. > :20:25.George Osborne what would you be telling me to do? I think the broad
:20:25. > :20:29.plan is right. You have got to keep the confidence of the markets.
:20:29. > :20:33.Governments have been trying to do too much, they have got to spend a
:20:33. > :20:43.little less, but beneath that we have got a look at how economies
:20:43. > :20:44.
:20:44. > :20:50.grow and win need the government to do a little less, but will also
:20:50. > :20:53.spend in investment because that increases capacity for growth.
:20:53. > :21:01.about employment and social mobility? You famously started from
:21:01. > :21:10.the bottom, you literally got on a bike and you started packing
:21:10. > :21:14.shelves. Is that happening enough these days to the 15 year-old Terry
:21:14. > :21:22.Leahys out there? I see a lot of bright kids starting businesses but
:21:22. > :21:27.it doesn't have -- happen enough. I had the greater advantage of
:21:27. > :21:32.getting a scholarship to a grammar school, and that catapulted me into
:21:32. > :21:38.the big wide world. That is harder to do now, and for the people from
:21:38. > :21:43.poorer backgrounds, they do need a leg up to get into society. Let's
:21:43. > :21:53.talk about Tesco, where you have brought a massive growth, but some
:21:53. > :22:00.
:22:00. > :22:05.people think it is too successful. A lot of family businesses are
:22:05. > :22:09.crowded out by Tesco. What do you say to that view? It is
:22:09. > :22:16.controversial, and it is important to have a debate about how Tesco
:22:16. > :22:21.has been successful. Tesco was not created by diktat of legislation,
:22:21. > :22:27.Tesco grew because customers shop there, and they do have a choice.
:22:27. > :22:32.Everybody has a choice, so if Tesco stopped looking after the customer
:22:32. > :22:37.and creating benefit, then customers can and do go elsewhere.
:22:37. > :22:42.Do you feel in any sense queasy about what has happened to so many
:22:42. > :22:47.high streets? Because they have been hollowed out with a lot of
:22:47. > :22:51.charity shops and traditional businesses closing. It is a problem
:22:51. > :22:56.because some of the high streets are medieval, Victorian, and they
:22:57. > :23:01.were designed for a different economy. They have to change as
:23:01. > :23:11.people shop and the way they live their lives changed. Just look at
:23:11. > :23:11.
:23:11. > :23:16.the internet. By some estimates, a third of non-food purchases will be
:23:16. > :23:21.on the internet in a few years' time. We have got to make high
:23:21. > :23:26.streets more attractive places to beat and spend time. Since you left,
:23:27. > :23:32.Tesco has had a tough time. The first profits warning for a long
:23:32. > :23:37.time, and some people say you saw it coming and got out in time, some
:23:37. > :23:42.people say your successors have messed things up. Which is it?
:23:42. > :23:48.Neither. Any business will show wear and tear coming through the
:23:48. > :23:56.recession, but remember Tesco is very strong and profitable. It has
:23:56. > :24:00.a very good market position, it is a British success story. The
:24:00. > :24:05.recovery is coming and they are investing ahead of the record to
:24:05. > :24:09.improve the customer offer. So you would have done nothing different,
:24:09. > :24:15.have you stayed on? It is hard to know but I suspect I would have
:24:16. > :24:22.been doing the same thing. Remember, this is a very competitive market,
:24:22. > :24:29.and competitors don't sit around making it easy. Half the employees
:24:29. > :24:34.are now outside the UK, a big expansion outside, will that be the
:24:34. > :24:38.future? One of the big questions seems to be how we are going to
:24:39. > :24:48.make our way in the world, what we will be good at. Do you think
:24:49. > :24:49.
:24:49. > :24:52.retail, the export of retailing ideas, is a wealth maker? I do, and
:24:52. > :24:57.the British retail industry is probably the best in the world, and
:24:57. > :25:02.we are one of the leaders on e- commerce now, the new industry. We
:25:02. > :25:07.should go out around the world and compete, find the best and see if
:25:07. > :25:13.we can learn from them and take them on. That is the future for the
:25:13. > :25:18.British economy, to engage more in markets like Asia and Latin America.
:25:18. > :25:21.In your book you go through a series of things that are important.
:25:21. > :25:26.If you were singling out one message for people to take away
:25:26. > :25:31.from your book, what would it be? Truth, because you have got to find
:25:31. > :25:38.out what is going on around you and face up to the difficult questions.
:25:38. > :25:43.If you can do that, the problem is half solved. What is ahead for you?
:25:43. > :25:50.I am still in business but now I invest in smaller start-up
:25:50. > :25:54.businesses and help them to grow, and that is what the economy.
:25:54. > :25:58.you. As England prepare for their
:25:58. > :26:02.opening Euro 2012 match in the Ukraine tomorrow, the conduct of
:26:02. > :26:06.local supporters threatens to overshadow the football itself. The
:26:06. > :26:11.Dutch players found themselves abused by local spectators when
:26:11. > :26:16.they were training this week, and now the footballers who respond to
:26:16. > :26:22.racist chanting by walking off will get into trouble themselves, so how
:26:22. > :26:27.should they react? Clarke Carlisle is chairman of the Professional
:26:27. > :26:31.Footballers' Association. Thank you for coming in. How seriously do you
:26:31. > :26:36.think we should be taking these warnings of major racist abuse
:26:36. > :26:43.coming from the terraces in the Ukraine? I think we need to take
:26:43. > :26:50.them very seriously because I was in Poland myself four weeks ago,
:26:50. > :26:56.went to the Krakow Derby, and had first-hand experience of racist
:26:56. > :27:00.abuse, hooliganism and anti- Semitism all in one game, not long
:27:00. > :27:06.after speaking to the chief of police who said there had been no
:27:06. > :27:11.reported incidents in the last 18 months. What we are being told and
:27:11. > :27:16.reported is vastly different. should players do? One politician
:27:16. > :27:22.this morning said if there is serious racist abuse, and the
:27:22. > :27:27.referee is not intervening, walk off. That is the order of play, I
:27:27. > :27:36.think. If you can see the officials are not handling the situation, you
:27:36. > :27:40.are well within your rights to walk off the pitch. We don't want any
:27:40. > :27:44.discrimination in football, so this will be a real test of UEFA to see
:27:44. > :27:49.if they have empowered their officials to take control of these
:27:49. > :27:54.situations. If the referee has stopped the game and it is the few
:27:54. > :27:59.individuals, they are being sorted out, then you would be happy
:27:59. > :28:03.because you know what is being dealt with. If not, England players
:28:04. > :28:10.should walk off? If it happened to me, I would want to walk off the
:28:10. > :28:13.pitch because I don't think anybody should be abused in their workplace.
:28:13. > :28:19.If UEFA saying you will be disciplined if you do, that is not
:28:19. > :28:24.an acceptable response? Their remit is obviously to hope that their
:28:24. > :28:28.officials are taking control of it so they are speaking in the thought
:28:28. > :28:33.process that the referee has taken control of it and that will be the
:28:33. > :28:37.ultimate test. If they are, the players won't have to walk off the
:28:37. > :28:42.pitch. We have had trouble in this country as well and there has been
:28:42. > :28:46.a lot of controversy about the fact Rio Ferdinand has not been selected
:28:46. > :28:51.this time. We have had the England manager speaking out about it this
:28:51. > :28:55.morning. What is your take on that? It is fantastic Roy Hodgson has
:28:55. > :29:00.spoken about it this morning because hopefully that will have
:29:00. > :29:04.put to bed some rumours flying around about this. He has
:29:04. > :29:08.categorically stated that Rio Ferdinand was not in the back up
:29:08. > :29:13.group of players to be selected so it was nothing to do with the
:29:13. > :29:18.ongoing situation, and that is what was necessary. We needed some
:29:18. > :29:26.transparency, we needed someone to come out and say the reasons why he
:29:26. > :29:32.was not selected. Even non-football experts like myself know there are
:29:32. > :29:35.issued a number of injuries hitting the England team in particular. Do
:29:35. > :29:42.you think it is the case that the length of the season and having
:29:42. > :29:47.missed at the end, be a large just exhausted and overtired, and that
:29:47. > :29:52.is a structural issue that needs to be looked at? This has been mooted
:29:52. > :29:56.on many occasions, before every major championships we have had
:29:56. > :30:02.over the last 20 years, and it definitely is a possibility. It is
:30:03. > :30:07.a long season, especially for the elite players, playing up words of
:30:07. > :30:12.16 games this season, in Europe, domestically and internationally.
:30:12. > :30:17.It is a demanding season, but if we did bring in some kind of a winter
:30:17. > :30:21.break, it would only serve to condense the amount of time we play
:30:21. > :30:26.these games in. The only answer would be to cut down the amount of
:30:26. > :30:35.games played in a season, which in the capitalistic way the game is
:30:35. > :30:39.nowadays, it won't happen. Not too exhausted to come to speak to us.
:30:39. > :30:44.David Suchet is loved by millions of people for his portrayal of
:30:44. > :30:48.Agatha Christie's detective Hercule Poirot, a role he has been
:30:48. > :30:55.perfecting for more than 20 years. He is a superb theatre actor as
:30:55. > :31:05.well, currently starring in the West End American classic French
:31:05. > :31:10.
:31:10. > :31:14.dint alcohol, pain and guilt. I You seemed a bit high strung?
:31:14. > :31:19.have nonsense in your imagination and you really must not watch me
:31:19. > :31:25.all the time, James, it makes me self-conscious. Now, that's your
:31:25. > :31:32.imagination. And if I have watched you, it was to admire how beautiful
:31:32. > :31:37.you looked. I can't tell you the deep happiness it gives me to see
:31:37. > :31:47.you as you have been since you came back to us. Your dear old self
:31:47. > :31:47.
:31:47. > :31:53.again. And David Suchet is with me. Welcome. What we were seeing their,
:31:53. > :31:57.the reason he is watching her so carefully is an underlying theme,
:31:57. > :32:02.she has had a serious morphine addiction. And this business about
:32:02. > :32:08.being fat, he hopes she's getting over it. Yes, he is in denial,
:32:08. > :32:13.really. He has been noticing that she has been tense for the past few
:32:13. > :32:22.days and, historically, for 25 years, she has been addicted to
:32:22. > :32:26.morphine. Due to pain in childbirth, she was given morphine and he was
:32:26. > :32:34.responsible for not paying for a good doctor, so he feels guilty.
:32:34. > :32:37.Your character is an actor. He has been too cowardly to be the best
:32:38. > :32:43.actor he could be and has taken a role which has been to lucrative in
:32:43. > :32:47.a travelling production. Yes, he saw the equivalent of what a young
:32:47. > :32:53.actor could now see in the Royal Shakespeare Theatre Company doing
:32:53. > :32:57.really serious drama and suddenly Hollywood comes knocking and you go
:32:57. > :33:02.for the big money. In those days, the big money was a really good
:33:02. > :33:08.part in a theatre play, so he was a Shakespearean actor, and we are
:33:08. > :33:12.talking about this play being seven autobiography for -- semi
:33:12. > :33:16.autobiographical because Eugene O'Neill, it's a mirror image of his
:33:16. > :33:20.father. He took the role of the Count of Monte Christow and gave up
:33:20. > :33:28.Shakespeare. He wouldn't allow the pay to be shown in his lifetime
:33:28. > :33:32.because it is too painful. And I was just thinking, there's every
:33:33. > :33:38.way we can match -- a mess up our lives, addiction, alcohol,
:33:38. > :33:42.cowardice, cruelty, it's all there in one family, very intense. It's
:33:42. > :33:49.extremely intense and very, very hard and demanding but it's the
:33:49. > :33:54.only place I have ever been in that I read that Eugene O'Neill never
:33:54. > :34:02.intended to put on stage and he only wanted published a 25 years
:34:02. > :34:06.after his death. He was using this played, his method of writing drama,
:34:06. > :34:12.as an exorcism for getting on to paper the tragedy of his own life
:34:12. > :34:16.and family. We will talk about Hercule Poirot in a moment but you
:34:16. > :34:20.have had such a successful career on television. What is it about
:34:20. > :34:24.putting yourself through something like this which is clearly
:34:24. > :34:30.addictive because it's not the first time you will put yourself in
:34:30. > :34:38.a really long, tough, American play. I don't know. I find myself playing
:34:38. > :34:44.so many American roles on stage. I think because it really fall fails
:34:44. > :34:49.the pure equation of why I became an actor, to be the mouthpiece for
:34:49. > :34:55.playwrights in the theatre. Without them, actors would not have a voice
:34:55. > :35:00.and some of the greatest voices are from really big dramatic plays.
:35:00. > :35:06.none more so than this one. You're doing the final series of Hercule
:35:06. > :35:10.Poirot. We start in October. This is going to be quite a
:35:10. > :35:14.heartbreaking moment, not only for the fans watching but I guess for
:35:14. > :35:19.yourself, because you haven't lived with this man and adapted the
:35:20. > :35:29.character over the years and developed it and so on are. Do you
:35:29. > :35:35.feel a bereavement? Yes, I will feel that. I will feel very pleased
:35:35. > :35:39.that I have accomplished the complete canon of work. Every novel,
:35:39. > :35:45.short story that Agatha Christie ever wrote involving Hercule Poirot
:35:45. > :35:50.will have been performed by you. Yes, on July 15th, I will do a play
:35:50. > :35:54.Reading at the Chichester Festival of the only play Agatha Christie
:35:54. > :36:01.wrote for him as well, black coffee. There are no more stories by Agatha
:36:01. > :36:07.Christie. And so I will be putting him to bed and that's a very
:36:07. > :36:16.strange feeling for me. Your film and has backwards, I understand?
:36:16. > :36:20.It's the last story and it means that it's the last story. The book
:36:20. > :36:24.is called Curtain falls of it doesn't do the big imagination to
:36:24. > :36:28.work at what happens. We were going to that last but thought about it
:36:28. > :36:33.carefully have thought, no, it's got to come first because then I
:36:33. > :36:38.don't have to leave, nearly a quarter of a century of playing
:36:38. > :36:42.this man, and having to literally bury him and trying to deal with
:36:42. > :36:48.that, so we are doing that one first and I can leave him while
:36:48. > :36:53.he's still alive. How long does it take to do this? I will be on from
:36:53. > :36:59.October, on and off, through to the end of 20th July 13. It's going to
:36:59. > :37:03.be quite an emotional roller- coaster. Yes, it will be an
:37:03. > :37:07.extraordinary year. I will never forget it. Well listen, thank you
:37:08. > :37:10.very much. A great pleasure. Before the last election, the Prime
:37:10. > :37:14.minister David Cameron made a pledge. We'll reduce the annual
:37:14. > :37:18.rate of immigration to tens of thousands. Two years into his
:37:18. > :37:23.Premiership, he might be wishing he hadn't. Annual net migration in the
:37:23. > :37:30.year to September was a quarter of a million. Almost identical to the
:37:30. > :37:33.year before. 25 tens of millions. This morning, the Home Secretary
:37:33. > :37:36.Theresa May is unveiling new plans to make it harder to bring in
:37:36. > :37:42.foreign relatives, and make it easier to deport foreign criminals.
:37:42. > :37:48.But will the judges play along? Mrs May joins me now. Welcome. Good
:37:48. > :37:52.morning. Let's talk about the most important of these measures, which
:37:52. > :37:59.is to break -- greatly increase the amount of income you have to have
:37:59. > :38:03.to bring in a migrant husband or wife or children. If you want to
:38:03. > :38:06.bring in relatives, explained to us how the new system will work.
:38:06. > :38:11.Perhaps I could set it in the context of the wider issue of net
:38:11. > :38:17.migration. We want to reduce it to tens of thousands and we have said,
:38:17. > :38:22.in doing that, we would look at every aspect of immigration, non e
:38:22. > :38:26.u economic migrants, student visas and settlements, and now family,
:38:26. > :38:29.and this is not just about the numbers in terms of family because
:38:29. > :38:35.we think it's right that somebody who wants to bring some body into
:38:35. > :38:38.the UK to join them as a partner, should be able to support them
:38:38. > :38:42.financially at not be bringing them in on the basis they are going to
:38:43. > :38:49.be reliant on the state and that's... How much money do need to
:38:49. > :38:53.have to bring a husband or wife in? �18,600. We ask our advisory
:38:53. > :38:58.committee to look at the figures and to advise as as to what that
:38:58. > :39:03.could be. They set a range and we have chosen at the lower end of the
:39:03. > :39:11.range, the point people would normally not be reliant on benefits.
:39:11. > :39:15.We think that is an important point. What about children, aunts and
:39:15. > :39:24.uncles and grannies and so on? relation to children, we think it
:39:24. > :39:34.right that the income should be increased for each child, so one
:39:34. > :39:36.child, 22,400 pound, and then 2,400 pound for every other child each. I
:39:36. > :39:42.think that's right. It's important that if people are bringing people
:39:42. > :39:47.into the UK to create a family, we say that you should be able to
:39:47. > :39:52.support yourselves and not be reliant on the state. There is a
:39:52. > :39:56.British test you are going to bring in as well. Yes, it's not just
:39:56. > :40:00.about numbers but also about looking at people being able to
:40:00. > :40:03.support themselves in the UK and integrate into society also we
:40:03. > :40:07.think that's important so for settlement from next year, we
:40:07. > :40:12.expect people to be able to speak English to a certain level,
:40:13. > :40:17.understand English, and also to do a life in the UK test, so we know
:40:17. > :40:21.they can integrate and become part of society here. What we are doing
:40:21. > :40:28.in terms of family migration is not just about those aspects. It's also
:40:28. > :40:32.about this issue called article 8. I want to come on to that. The
:40:32. > :40:38.right to family life in the human rights legislation but before we do
:40:38. > :40:44.that, you must have seen estimates in your department about what these
:40:44. > :40:47.measures will do in terms of net immigration. How many fewer
:40:47. > :40:54.immigrants do you expect to come into this country as a result?
:40:54. > :40:59.is not big numbers, the family migration, not just about numbers
:40:59. > :41:03.for family migration. It's about setting out clearly the rules in
:41:03. > :41:08.relation to article 8, but also about some important principles
:41:08. > :41:12.about people being able to support themselves so it's not in itself
:41:12. > :41:18.about numbers because the large numbers, what makes the major
:41:18. > :41:22.difference in terms of the overall net migration is student visas.
:41:22. > :41:26.and has been altered issues around that. Let's talk odd article 8,
:41:26. > :41:30.which affects people who you want to remove from the country but
:41:30. > :41:34.can't remove at the moment because they are going to court and saying
:41:34. > :41:40.I have a right to family life, I have married his person, I have
:41:40. > :41:45.this child, and whatever I have done as a criminal in this country,
:41:45. > :41:48.you can't get rid of me. problem is, article 8 is in the
:41:48. > :41:52.European Convention on Human Rights and if you look at it, there are
:41:52. > :41:57.two parts, the first saying you are right to a family life and the
:41:57. > :42:01.second says that actually, governments unqualified are right.
:42:01. > :42:05.It's not an absolute right, so in the interests of the economy and
:42:05. > :42:09.controlling migration, public order and those sort of issues, the state
:42:09. > :42:13.has a ride to qualify this right to family life. What has been
:42:13. > :42:19.happening up until now, we have seen cases going to court where
:42:19. > :42:23.criminals who we want to deport have been able to stay in the UK
:42:23. > :42:27.because the courts have said, you have a right to family life. And
:42:27. > :42:30.they haven't been qualifying it, even in the way the European
:42:30. > :42:35.Convention enabled them to do. I'm going to set out the rules which
:42:35. > :42:40.says this is what the public and Parliament believe is how you
:42:40. > :42:45.balance the public interest against the individual. You get a
:42:45. > :42:52.parliamentary vote, a lot of lawyers say that this is absolutely
:42:52. > :42:55.not the job of MPs or commentators of any kind and judges make
:42:55. > :43:00.distinctions of this kind, interpret the law, and they will
:43:00. > :43:06.carry on doing that in the way they see fit no matter what motion goes
:43:06. > :43:08.through Parliament. It also been said by some in the legal
:43:08. > :43:11.profession but one of the problems in interpreting it at the moment is
:43:11. > :43:19.that Parliament has an been clear enough about what it believes the
:43:19. > :43:23.right to family life is, and Parliament is going to set that out
:43:23. > :43:30.and ask parliament to vote on this to say very clearly what we think
:43:30. > :43:35.constitutes the right to family life. Will judge us carry on as
:43:35. > :43:41.before? We balance the interests of the public and the individual. I
:43:41. > :43:44.expect judges will look at what Parliament says and will follow and
:43:45. > :43:49.take into account what Parliament has said. If they don't, we will
:43:49. > :43:54.have to look at other measures including primary legislation.
:43:54. > :43:59.Given that we are signatories to this Act, this international
:43:59. > :44:03.agreement, it's impossible, isn't it, for Parliament to change the
:44:03. > :44:08.effective law when it comes to this? The parliament is not
:44:08. > :44:11.changing it. What are we will ask parliament to do is to set out the
:44:11. > :44:15.qualifications which we are entitled to set out under the
:44:15. > :44:18.European Convention itself and one of the interesting things is, if
:44:18. > :44:23.you look of the cases we have seen, there some instances with the
:44:23. > :44:28.European Court has been tougher than our own courts, for example we
:44:28. > :44:32.tend not to look at whether some body has been here for a number of
:44:32. > :44:37.years lawfully or illegally, whereas the European Court takes a
:44:37. > :44:40.tougher view on those who have built up rights over a number of
:44:40. > :44:43.years and have been hit illegally. They say we should pay less
:44:43. > :44:48.attention to that so we are taking what is in the Convention itself
:44:48. > :44:53.and saying it's right we apply this in Parliament. This does not get
:44:53. > :44:57.big numbers, I think it's important to do this in article 8 but in
:44:57. > :45:07.terms of net migration overall, we are seeing differences in student
:45:07. > :45:14.
:45:14. > :45:20.Ken Clarke, Justice Secretary backing this? Yes, he has agreed to
:45:20. > :45:25.it. A lot of people think, as we go through the meltdown in the euro,
:45:25. > :45:31.and really intense problems in a lot of southern European economies,
:45:31. > :45:37.we will see a lot of internal migration coming from Europe. If
:45:37. > :45:43.that happens at a dramatic level, what can you do about it? We are
:45:43. > :45:47.looking at contingency arrangements. So far we are not seeing a trend in
:45:47. > :45:51.increased movement, despite significant problems already in a
:45:51. > :45:58.number of eurozone countries, but it is right that we look at the
:45:58. > :46:02.contingency arrangements that might be needed. What could you do if you
:46:02. > :46:07.are worried? The whole point of doing the work is to look to see
:46:07. > :46:11.what it would be possible to do, and what it would be appropriate to
:46:11. > :46:17.do in certain circumstances. I will not make any judgments at this
:46:17. > :46:21.stage, but it is right to look at it properly. Talking to you as a
:46:21. > :46:26.leading Conservative member of the Cabinet, rather than Home Secretary,
:46:27. > :46:32.what is your view about the referendum issue? If, as appears
:46:32. > :46:38.now quite likely, the eurozone takes deeper measures, brings
:46:38. > :46:42.itself closer together and create a stronger Corps, that will break the
:46:42. > :46:47.effect of what Europe means and affect our relationship with the
:46:47. > :46:51.rest of the EU. Many Conservatives feel that at that moment the
:46:51. > :46:59.promise of a referendum can no longer be ignored. We have done
:46:59. > :47:04.something no government has done previously. we passed an Act of
:47:04. > :47:08.Parliament saying that if there is a treaty taking powers from Britain
:47:08. > :47:13.to Brussels, there will be a referendum, and we think that is
:47:13. > :47:18.important. We don't know what will come out of the current discussions.
:47:18. > :47:23.But you are watching this like a hawk and you mussy that is the way
:47:23. > :47:27.things are moving. We have been very clear for some time, and
:47:27. > :47:31.George Osborne has reiterated that today, that we think for the
:47:31. > :47:41.countries in the eurozone there is an inevitability about them having
:47:41. > :47:45.more a -- collective responsibility. And that means inevitably changes
:47:45. > :47:49.to the arrangements, which inevitably would trigger a
:47:49. > :47:57.referendum, no? We don't know what changes to the arrangements it
:47:57. > :48:01.means. As I say, we have been very clear in the legislation that if
:48:01. > :48:05.they raise a treaty that requires powers to go from Britain to
:48:05. > :48:10.Brussels, there will be a referendum. Would you like to see
:48:10. > :48:15.that happen? Do you think it is fair to give people in this country
:48:15. > :48:19.to another vote? I think we should do what we said we would do, which
:48:19. > :48:23.is that if we see powers being passed from Britain to Brussels,
:48:23. > :48:28.the British people should have their say. That is what we have
:48:28. > :48:33.said and that is what is right so let's see what comes out of this.
:48:33. > :48:37.The suggested appointment of Tom Windsor to oversee the police is
:48:37. > :48:41.causing fury among many police officers because they also regard
:48:41. > :48:47.him as the person who has been trying to rewrite their terms of
:48:47. > :48:50.service, and to put it bluntly is a bit of an enemy. Are you picking a
:48:50. > :48:55.fight deliberately with the Police Federation because you are
:48:55. > :49:01.determined to change the police once and for all? I are not picking
:49:01. > :49:07.a fight. The current chief inspector, Sir Denis O'Connor, who
:49:07. > :49:12.has been outstanding, has been gradually moving... He was a
:49:12. > :49:17.policeman. Yes, he has been moving the inspectorate to be more
:49:17. > :49:22.independent and the body whose job it is should be independent of
:49:22. > :49:25.government and independent of the service. Within the inspectorate,
:49:25. > :49:31.you have a mix already have people who have policing backgrounds and
:49:31. > :49:37.people who don't. What is it about Tom Windsor, lawyer, rail regulator,
:49:37. > :49:43.who makes him the best candidate to do this policing job? There was a
:49:43. > :49:47.proper process, we didn't look him out of thin air. The number of
:49:47. > :49:55.people applied, went through interviews, and in the final
:49:55. > :50:00.interviews, which were conducted by myself and the policing minister
:50:00. > :50:06.Nick Herbert, we felt he was the best candidate. Does it worry you
:50:06. > :50:15.that the policing profession and feel so angry about this? We want
:50:15. > :50:20.someone who can be completely independent. What is important is
:50:20. > :50:26.that we have an inspectorate that does challenge... But does it worry
:50:26. > :50:30.you that the profession are quite so angry? Are want to see an
:50:30. > :50:36.inspector that is independent, and I spoke to police officers across
:50:37. > :50:41.all ranks about the changes, and I recognise that the police are
:50:41. > :50:49.seeing a lot happening in terms of their pay and conditions, but what
:50:49. > :50:52.we are doing is are establishing policing where we are giving more
:50:52. > :50:57.discretion and responsibility to individual police officers, giving
:50:57. > :51:01.public accountability through the elected crime commissioners, and we
:51:01. > :51:06.are making of the inspectorate more independent. It will report to
:51:06. > :51:10.Parliament in the future, rather than just to the government.
:51:10. > :51:14.you are not worried that you are putting in somebody with no
:51:14. > :51:19.policing experience, infuriating the police, ahead of a very
:51:19. > :51:23.stressful summer, the Olympics not least? You say we are putting
:51:23. > :51:29.somebody in charge of the police, the inspectorate is not in charge
:51:30. > :51:37.of the police. Each chief constable continues to have independence in
:51:37. > :51:40.their area. The crime commissioner will give local people a voice,
:51:40. > :51:45.give the democratic accountability that we have promised people we
:51:45. > :51:49.would give, and the inspectorate's role is being changed by the
:51:49. > :51:55.legislation we have passed, reporting to Parliament rather than
:51:56. > :51:59.government, and its job is to shine a light on policing generally.
:51:59. > :52:03.mentioned the Olympics. The terrible queues that built up at
:52:03. > :52:07.Heathrow have been a national embarrassment. Will you be carrying
:52:07. > :52:17.on with an insistence that everybody is fully checked as they
:52:17. > :52:21.come in, or will you allow a more common sense risk based approach?
:52:21. > :52:26.There are two parts to your question. We have arrangements
:52:26. > :52:30.specifically for the Olympics, we have been opening more desks at
:52:30. > :52:34.airports, particularly Heathrow, and we have been seeing the queues
:52:34. > :52:40.coming down so we are not seeing the sort of lengths of queues we
:52:40. > :52:44.were seeing a few weeks ago so we have taken action already. I have
:52:44. > :52:47.always said I am not against risk based checks but they need to be
:52:47. > :52:52.based on evidence and we need to have that evidence to make sure
:52:52. > :52:57.what we are doing is right because border security is paramount.
:52:57. > :53:01.over to Naga for the news headlines. The Home Secretary says judges will
:53:01. > :53:06.be given new guidelines making it more difficult for foreign
:53:06. > :53:10.criminals to escape deportation from the UK by invoking human
:53:10. > :53:14.rights law. She said she wants the parliament to vote on tighter rules
:53:14. > :53:18.that would make clear to the courts that are right to family life does
:53:18. > :53:21.not automatically take precedence over other situations.
:53:21. > :53:23.The Chancellor, George Osborne, has warned that the debt crisis in the
:53:23. > :53:26.Eurozone is killing off Britain's chances of economic recovery. His
:53:26. > :53:29.comments in the Sunday Telegraph come as Spain announced it is
:53:29. > :53:32.seeking a bailout of up to �80 billion pounds from the eurozone to
:53:32. > :53:35.rescue its troubled banks. It's the fourth and by far the biggest
:53:35. > :53:41.country to ask for help. The move has been welcomed by officials in
:53:41. > :53:45.both Washington and Berlin. The chairman of the footballers
:53:45. > :53:50.union has told this programme that he would walk off if he was
:53:50. > :53:54.racially abused at Euro 2012. The Dutch team has already faced abuse
:53:54. > :53:59.during training sessions, but the European football chief has been
:53:59. > :54:02.warning that any player who walks off the pitch in protest will be
:54:02. > :54:05.given a yellow card. That's all from me for now. The
:54:05. > :54:11.next news on BBC One is at midday. Back to Andrew in just a moment,
:54:11. > :54:17.but first a look at what is coming up after the show. Today, did fear
:54:17. > :54:24.of being called racist stop us tackling forced marriage, and is it
:54:24. > :54:27.a crime? And do posh people have too much power? Our guests will
:54:27. > :54:30.argue that one out. She's known as the Queen of Indie
:54:31. > :54:33.Pop - famous for her mighty Voice and style that's been compared to
:54:33. > :54:36.Ophelia meets the Lady of Shalott. Florence Welch, who performs as
:54:37. > :54:46.Florence and the Machine, is about to embark on a season of music
:54:47. > :55:01.
:55:01. > :55:07.# There is a drumming noise inside my head that starts when you are
:55:07. > :55:14.around. I swear you should hear it, it makes such a mighty sound.
:55:14. > :55:18.morning, Florence has popped in to see us. It has been an astonishing
:55:18. > :55:24.time for you because it is not long ago you were singing tiny venues
:55:24. > :55:29.and now you have this superstar status. The way it started was just
:55:29. > :55:34.from playing in pubs and clubs with an acoustic guitarist, and now I
:55:34. > :55:41.have these amazing moments with a full orchestra, playing the Albert
:55:41. > :55:47.Hall, and it is like oh wow! haven't managed to do that today.
:55:47. > :55:53.You will be singing something which is gentler, tell us about it.
:55:53. > :55:58.is a song called Breaking Down that was one of those songs that I
:55:58. > :56:02.started humming and the words came of their own accord, but it is one
:56:02. > :56:07.of the more introspective sad songs on the record, but I always wanted
:56:07. > :56:11.to make a sad song with a happy tune, which is what I am doing.
:56:11. > :56:14.will look forward to it very much. That's it for this week. I'll be
:56:14. > :56:17.back at the same time next Sunday, but for now I'll leave you with
:56:17. > :56:20.Florence and the Machine with their track Breaking Down from the album
:56:20. > :56:30.Ceremonials. From all the team here, enjoy the rest of the weekend.
:56:30. > :56:33.
:56:33. > :56:43.All alone It was always there you see
:56:43. > :56:49.
:56:49. > :56:52.And even on my own It was always standing next to me
:56:52. > :56:59.I can see it coming from the edge of the room
:56:59. > :57:09.Creeping in the streetlight Holding my hand in the pale gloom
:57:09. > :57:15.Can you see it coming now? Oh, I think I'm breaking down again
:57:15. > :57:25.Oh, I think I'm breaking down All alone
:57:25. > :57:26.
:57:26. > :57:34.Even when I was a child I've always known
:57:34. > :57:37.There was something to be frightened of
:57:37. > :57:43.And I can see you coming from the edge of the room
:57:43. > :57:49.Smiling in the streetlight Holding my hand in the pale gloom
:57:49. > :57:59.Can you see it coming now? Oh, I think I'm breaking down again
:57:59. > :58:06.
:58:06. > :58:08.Oh, I think I'm breaking down All alone
:58:08. > :58:15.On the edge of sleep My old familiar friend
:58:16. > :58:20.Comes and lies down next to me And I can see you coming from the
:58:20. > :58:30.edge of the room Smiling in the streetlight
:58:30. > :58:31.