:00:38. > :00:40.Good morning. There's only one thing that matters
:00:41. > :00:44.today, St Swithin's Day, and that's the weather. Folklore says that if
:00:44. > :00:47.it rains today, then it will rain for the next forty days. If not,
:00:48. > :00:50.then 40 days of clear skies. But who was St Swithin, you may be
:00:50. > :00:52.asking? An Anglo-Saxon bishop, famous after his death for the
:00:53. > :00:56.miracles performed by various bits of his body, distributed round
:00:56. > :00:59.different cathedrals. Apparently when workmen maliciously broke an
:00:59. > :01:08.old woman's eggs on Winchester bridge he put them back together
:01:08. > :01:10.again. Also, his name probably translates as pig man. I thought
:01:10. > :01:13.I'd bring this important information because I have a
:01:13. > :01:16.feeling we'll be quoting today's weather, whatever it is, for some
:01:16. > :01:18.time. Joining me today for our review of
:01:18. > :01:21.the Sunday newspapers, arch- eurosceptic, leader of UKIP, Nigel
:01:21. > :01:24.Farage, and after a busy week in the Commons, the Times
:01:24. > :01:27.parliamentary sketch writer, Ann Treneman.
:01:27. > :01:31.Of course one of the reasons we're so interested in the weather is
:01:31. > :01:34.that it's less than a fortnight now to the London Olympics, claimed to
:01:35. > :01:40.be the biggest peacetime project we've ever undertaken in the UK. So
:01:40. > :01:43.how will we do? Not enough security people, and the organisers have had
:01:43. > :01:46.to call in the troops. Tomorrow, teams and officials from all over
:01:46. > :01:49.the world will start pouring in to London. Will Heathrow and the
:01:49. > :01:52.transport system cope? Well this morning, we're going to hear from
:01:52. > :01:55.Jeremy Hunt, the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. How
:01:55. > :02:03.confident is he that this country can put on the greatest show on
:02:03. > :02:05.earth? We'll talk too about the troubled
:02:05. > :02:08.coalition government with the former Liberal Democrat leader Sir
:02:08. > :02:11.Ming Campbell, who held the British 100 metres record in his day and
:02:11. > :02:15.competed in the 1964 Olympics. But today it's the row over Lords
:02:15. > :02:17.reform that's in the news. Can a deal be done over the summer? Will
:02:17. > :02:19.his party or the Tory rebels climb down?
:02:19. > :02:22.We'll be surveying the political scene in the United States where
:02:22. > :02:24.the presidential election is looking very tight. The civil
:02:24. > :02:26.rights campaigner and Obama supporter Jesse Jackson discusses
:02:26. > :02:29.the President's chances of winning a second term.
:02:29. > :02:31.Finally, with one eye nervously squinting at the clouds, we'll be
:02:31. > :02:34.going live to the Latitude Festival in Suffolk where the line-up
:02:34. > :02:44.includes the man who'll play us out, the brilliant Chinese pianist, Lang
:02:44. > :02:48.
:02:48. > :02:50.More from him and all the others later but first the news with Naga
:02:50. > :02:52.Munchetty. Good morning. It's been confirmed
:02:52. > :02:58.that inspectors raised concerns 10 months ago about security planning
:02:58. > :03:01.for the Olympic Games. The Home Office says all the issues were
:03:01. > :03:07.resolved by February, but last week the private security contractor G4S
:03:07. > :03:09.admitted it was unable to supply enough guards. It's since emerged
:03:09. > :03:12.that the Home Office Minister James Brokenshire has been attending
:03:12. > :03:22.meetings with representatives of G4S since late June, as Ben
:03:22. > :03:23.
:03:23. > :03:25.Geoghegan reports. G4S admit they have failed to deliver and they
:03:25. > :03:31.have apologised, but should ministers have stepped in earlier
:03:31. > :03:36.to deal with the short fall in security guards for the Games?
:03:36. > :03:40.were receiving reassurances from G4S until very recently. The
:03:40. > :03:44.absolute gap in the numbers was only crystallised finally yesterday.
:03:44. > :03:47.The Home Secretary says the full extent of the problems at G4S only
:03:47. > :03:51.became clear last Wednesday, even though a minister has been having
:03:51. > :03:55.daily meetings with the company for the last three weeks. Labour says
:03:55. > :03:59.there are serious questions about how carefully ministers were
:03:59. > :04:02.monitoring the plans. Today it has been revealed that the Home Office
:04:02. > :04:08.was warned about other problems with security planning in September
:04:08. > :04:12.last year, but the Government says those issues were dealt with. 3500
:04:12. > :04:18.extra soldiers have been drafted in to plug the gap left by G4S. Some
:04:18. > :04:20.of them are already being deployed. The Olympics will soon be under way
:04:21. > :04:25.but questions about the security plans are likely to resurface when
:04:25. > :04:28.the Games have ended. UN observers who have visited the
:04:28. > :04:35.site of a mass killing in Syria believe pro-government forces had
:04:35. > :04:38.been targeting opposition activists and army deserters. The opposition
:04:38. > :04:43.claim 200 people were killed in a government assault on the village
:04:43. > :04:52.of Tremseh on Thursday. Jim Muir sent this report from neighbouring
:04:52. > :04:57.Lebanon. You may find some of the images in his report distressing.
:04:57. > :05:02.It took them 48 hours to get there, but United Nations observers
:05:02. > :05:05.finally made it to Tremseh to try to answer the question, was it a
:05:05. > :05:09.massacre? What has been clearly established so far is that
:05:09. > :05:13.Government forces launched a bitter attack on Tremseh on Thursday using
:05:13. > :05:18.heavy weapons, tanks and helicopters. After a preliminary
:05:18. > :05:21.visit to the village by a big team of military and civilian inspectors,
:05:21. > :05:26.the UN mission said the scale of casualties was still not clear but
:05:26. > :05:29.they said the attack appeared to target specific housing and
:05:29. > :05:34.buildings used by army deserters and opposition activists. That runs
:05:34. > :05:37.counter to some of the village ofs' records. They came from all
:05:38. > :05:41.directions with tanks and helicopters. They bombarded our
:05:41. > :05:45.homes and 200 martyrs were killed. The report said there were pools of
:05:45. > :05:49.blood in some of the targeted houses and a school and five
:05:49. > :05:53.dwellings had been set on fire. They avoid drawing conclusions, but
:05:53. > :05:56.the findings certainly do not confirm that there was a wholesale
:05:56. > :06:01.indiscriminate massacre of civilians as activist initially
:06:01. > :06:04.reported. It seems to be more in line with the Government's
:06:04. > :06:09.insistence that they were attacking what they call the nests of
:06:09. > :06:12.terrorists and rebel hideouts. The team is planning to return to the
:06:13. > :06:18.village today to continue the investigation. They will try to
:06:18. > :06:21.find out how many died, who they were and who was responsible.
:06:21. > :06:23.A British team of plant scientists has won a multi-million-pound grant
:06:23. > :06:31.to develop genetically modified cereal crops which will grow
:06:31. > :06:34.without fertiliser. The money comes from the foundation set up by the
:06:34. > :06:40.Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates and is one of the biggest ever
:06:40. > :06:43.investments into GM research in the The Royal College of Surgeons is
:06:43. > :06:49.calling for changes to the law to stop people without proper medical
:06:49. > :06:52.qualifications from using the title surgeon. Doctors believe it's wrong
:06:52. > :06:54.that people without a medical degree who carry out cosmetic
:06:54. > :06:59.procedures or operations on patients' feet describe themselves
:06:59. > :07:02.as surgeons. Finally, the rock stars Bruce
:07:02. > :07:08.Springsteen and Sir Paul McCartney were silenced after defying the
:07:08. > :07:11.sound curfew at the London concert Hard Rock Calling. Springsteen had
:07:11. > :07:15.been playing for more than three hours and had exceeded the curfew
:07:15. > :07:19.by half an hour. Sir Paul had joined Springsteen on stage at the
:07:19. > :07:23.end of the singer's headline slot in Hyde Park but both stars found
:07:23. > :07:27.their microphones cut off before they could address the crowds.
:07:27. > :07:37.That's all from me for now. I'll be back with the headlines just before
:07:37. > :07:38.
:07:38. > :07:42.10 o'clock. Back to you, Andrew. Nobody is above the law! Now, the
:07:42. > :07:45.front pages as usual. The Independent on Sunday has that
:07:46. > :07:50.story, Theresa May warned of the Olympics security fiasco 10 months
:07:50. > :07:54.ago, they say. The Sunday Times has an interesting story, a leaked
:07:54. > :07:59.document from the top of the NHS, warning that thousands of doctors
:07:59. > :08:04.and nurses face the sack unless they accept pretty dramatic changes
:08:04. > :08:07.to their pay and conditions. The big NHS crisis coming there,
:08:07. > :08:14.according to the Sunday Times. A very different story on the front
:08:14. > :08:24.of the Sunday Telegraph. They have named who they say is the killer of
:08:24. > :08:25.
:08:25. > :08:28.WPC Fletcher, that is in inverted And the Mail on Sunday, a Sudanese
:08:28. > :08:32.refugees who raped a 12 year-old girl has been allowed to stay in
:08:32. > :08:37.the UK because returning him what breaches human rights. Lots to talk
:08:37. > :08:42.about, lots of other stories to talk about. Nigel Qaraaba and Ann
:08:42. > :08:51.Treneman, thank you for joining us. Where are we starting? -- Nigel
:08:51. > :08:57.G4S because we are riveted by this. The boss has a marvellous name,
:08:57. > :09:01.Nick Buckles, and he has given an interview to the Sunday Telegraph.
:09:01. > :09:06.Nick Buckles buckles? He has buckled in the sense that he talks
:09:06. > :09:11.about his Olympics nightmare. Basically he will not be taking his
:09:11. > :09:21.bonus. He has to survive on a tender than �23,000, which must be
:09:21. > :09:24.really hard for him. -- �823,000. G4S has only supplied 4000 of the
:09:24. > :09:29.10,000 security personnel. The numbers still do not seem to be
:09:29. > :09:33.adding up. 3500 troops? We have not got near what is going on. But even
:09:33. > :09:37.better than that, of the 4000 that he recruited, when he was asked
:09:37. > :09:45.whether they all spoke English, he said that was a difficult question
:09:45. > :09:48.to answer! One of the big political stories in the old days was that
:09:48. > :09:54.the public sector was completely useless and the private sector was
:09:54. > :09:58.fantastic. After Barclays, G4S, all the rest of it, that no longer
:09:58. > :10:05.seems to be true. There seems to be something in this country that
:10:05. > :10:11.means we are no good at running big organisations. Or big events?
:10:11. > :10:15.go there! Or the Government! That is a story that we have chosen
:10:15. > :10:19.about the security staff not speaking English. I find that
:10:19. > :10:24.astonishing. Surely at some point in time, and I guess you will be
:10:24. > :10:29.asking the Government this later, did they know what kind of mess G4S
:10:29. > :10:32.were in? That is a big question. don't think that happened on
:10:32. > :10:36.Wednesday. They say the gap crystalised on Wednesday. We will
:10:36. > :10:41.talk to Jeremy Hunt about that later. Let's talk politics, lots of
:10:41. > :10:46.political stories in the newspaper today. Things are going swimmingly.
:10:46. > :10:49.Not! The David Cameron says they are. I think you know that things
:10:49. > :10:54.are in crisis went the Prime Minister tells you how great things
:10:54. > :10:57.are. He has written a piece for the Sunday Times. He says things are OK.
:10:57. > :11:04.The Lib Dems and thus have disagreements but we are all on the
:11:04. > :11:07.same side, making progress. -- the Lib Dems and us. Nobody cares about
:11:07. > :11:10.the House of Lords but the real issue is that if it is scuppered,
:11:10. > :11:15.will we get the boundary changes that the Conservatives desperately
:11:15. > :11:19.want? That is a real issue. These are two issues that people in
:11:19. > :11:24.general do not care about at all. agree. It is amazing that the
:11:24. > :11:30.economy is tanking, the Olympics are wobbling, this is supposed to
:11:30. > :11:34.be the summer of fun and Westminster has added with two
:11:34. > :11:37.issues that people do not care about. I do agree but there is
:11:37. > :11:42.bigger disagreement between the Lib Dems and the Tories and that is the
:11:42. > :11:46.Conservative Party itself is split. What a surprise! Well, just think
:11:46. > :11:52.about this. Since Cameron became the party leader, they have lost
:11:52. > :11:56.50% of their members. Their great worry is that your lot, UKIP, picks
:11:56. > :12:01.up support. Ultimately picking up seats. Do you think next election
:12:01. > :12:05.there will be UKIP members in the House of Commons? I think if we are
:12:05. > :12:10.able to win the Euro-elections of 2014 then the momentum that gives
:12:10. > :12:14.us will give asked every chance to get seats in Westminster. This is a
:12:14. > :12:20.cultural split in the Conservative Family as much as anything else?
:12:20. > :12:23.it is at historic split. We have seen it over Corn Laws, other
:12:23. > :12:28.reforms, and people are saying that this guy leads our party but how is
:12:28. > :12:36.he Conservative? On Europe, immigration, human rights? He is a
:12:36. > :12:40.liberal conservative. That is not going down very well in the shires.
:12:40. > :12:50.The worst case scenario has been drawn and that is riveting. The
:12:50. > :12:58.boundaries Commission does know where. Obama goes nowhere.
:12:58. > :13:02.theory if they get these changes through. Everything goes wrong and
:13:02. > :13:08.apparently they will not vote for the boundary changes. It is all
:13:08. > :13:11.horse-trading. It is possible that the coalition will collapse in
:13:11. > :13:18.Poisoner's acrimony and Ed Miliband will be Prime Minister by Christmas.
:13:18. > :13:28.-- poisonous acrimony. He does not so that is terribly like late!
:13:28. > :13:32.would get some good odds on that. - terribly likely! And this one, a
:13:32. > :13:35.new deal with the EU and we have to do it right now. This is putting
:13:35. > :13:41.yet more pressure on the Prime Minister and exposing that split
:13:41. > :13:45.that we were talking about. should also talk on a similar thing
:13:45. > :13:48.about the immigration story in the Mail on Sunday. This is the kind of
:13:48. > :13:54.thing that is causing alarm not just in the country but in the
:13:54. > :13:57.Conservative Party, too. Don't forget that David Cameron was
:13:57. > :14:01.looking at a British Bill of Rights and he would deal with this issue.
:14:01. > :14:04.This is the inability of British courts to send back refugees who
:14:04. > :14:07.have done terrible crimes in this country. In this case it is a
:14:07. > :14:11.refugee but very often it is illegal immigrants that have come
:14:11. > :14:14.here. There are lots of different categories of this but in the end
:14:14. > :14:17.it is the sheer impotence of the British courts, the British
:14:17. > :14:19.Parliament and the British Government. Again within the
:14:19. > :14:23.Conservative Party the vast majority of Tory party members and
:14:23. > :14:27.voters will say that we need a completely new deal. But once again
:14:27. > :14:30.it is our old friend Europe that comes back and dominates issue
:14:30. > :14:36.after issue. We have talked about some of the extreme possibilities
:14:36. > :14:40.already. Labour in power by Christmas, you mentioned. And you
:14:40. > :14:44.have got another example. You know that things are going as swimmingly
:14:44. > :14:48.as David Cameron says when they reprint this picture. Whenever you
:14:48. > :14:54.see this picture, the knives are out. This is the great picture of
:14:54. > :15:02.George Osborne looking, we think... Just as he is today? You think he
:15:02. > :15:12.has gotten a bit better because he has perfected sneering. That is in
:15:12. > :15:12.
:15:12. > :15:18.training. He is now saying that William Hague is tipped for his job.
:15:18. > :15:26.Their war Games with his departure and things are in crisis. Roll-on
:15:26. > :15:31.I can tell you one thing, there will be plenty of guards at. That
:15:31. > :15:35.will be the beach volley ball in Whitehall, I think. What the Sunday
:15:35. > :15:41.Times regards as a very worrying story, here. Because it is a little
:15:41. > :15:47.cold, some of these girls might have to put on clothing.
:15:47. > :15:52.Apparently... Leggings. And that means the crowds won't come!
:15:52. > :15:58.says the Prime Minister is not alone in believing watching women
:15:58. > :16:04.in bibgeenies is a vital part of watching the Olympic experience!
:16:04. > :16:10.also have a story about, in the mail of Sunday, a leak about what's
:16:10. > :16:17.going to be in the closing ceremony. Russell Brand is singing! He's
:16:17. > :16:27.singing a Sex Pistols song and there will be stripping lollipop
:16:27. > :16:28.
:16:28. > :16:31.ladies. It must be April 1st. 200 and odd children. It sounds
:16:31. > :16:38.truly awful. I'm sure it will be wonderful when it happens. You have
:16:38. > :16:44.to good news story? It is St Swithin's Day. The forecast is it
:16:44. > :16:49.will rain forever. Whilst it has been a rotten year for many things,
:16:49. > :16:59.wild flowers, but the big story is it is one of the best years ever
:16:59. > :17:00.
:17:00. > :17:05.for the beeorchid. We're clutching at straws. A lovely Twist here
:17:05. > :17:09.about the grape vines in Kent and Sussex saying it has been
:17:09. > :17:16.disastrous for the graeps. The growers have had to use special
:17:16. > :17:20.blow dryers. An army out there giving new hair doos. Thank you
:17:20. > :17:24.both very much. St Swithin's Day. There is one
:17:24. > :17:31.other possibility we haven't mentioned so far, this great legend
:17:31. > :17:34.is entirely piffl, and yet, I can't help being interested. Over to
:17:35. > :17:38.Sarah Keith Lucas in the weather studio. I can't promise you that
:17:38. > :17:46.the next 40 days will be fine and dry. If they are like today, there
:17:46. > :17:50.dry. If they are like today, there will be be much better. A bit of a
:17:50. > :17:55.cool breeze today. Many places have had a fine start to the day with
:17:55. > :18:00.blue sky and sunshine, if you can remember what that looks like. More
:18:00. > :18:04.cloud over western Scotland introducing outbreaks of rain.
:18:04. > :18:09.Manying places staying dry and bright. Heavy showers over the east
:18:09. > :18:12.of Scotland. We could see a rumble of thunder here. Largely dry for
:18:12. > :18:16.Northern England with some bright spells. Cloud building over the
:18:16. > :18:20.afternoon. Some glimpses of blue sky here an there. Fairly decent
:18:20. > :18:24.conditions for the south-east. A scattering of one or two light
:18:24. > :18:30.showers moving through quickly. Some sunny spells towards the
:18:30. > :18:34.south-west. Nothing to write home about with temperatures. Mid-teens.
:18:34. > :18:38.Most places looking dry in Wales. Perhaps a few passing showers in
:18:38. > :18:44.the east. Into Northern Ireland, a lot of dry weather with brighter
:18:44. > :18:48.intervals. Temperatures about 17 degrees. Monday, turning cloudy,
:18:48. > :18:53.damp and breezy once again. Enjoy the fine weather while it lasts
:18:53. > :18:55.during the rest of St Swithin's Day. I think you've blown the legend
:18:55. > :19:00.I think you've blown the legend entirely.
:19:00. > :19:06.If it will be nice today and rain for the rest of the week it doesn't
:19:06. > :19:10.work. The latest plan for an 80% elected
:19:10. > :19:15.chamber in the House of Lords like s like it is expeering painfully
:19:15. > :19:20.after a huge Tory revolt in the Commons. Cameron will take one pore
:19:20. > :19:25.try at persuading them. If he can't, what does that mean? Sir Ming
:19:25. > :19:29.Campbell's with me now. Good morning. Good morning.
:19:29. > :19:34.coalition agreement says, as I understand it, it has to be a
:19:34. > :19:38.largely electeded second chamber baseded on PR and that that will be
:19:38. > :19:42.delivered by the coalition. How important is that? Everything
:19:42. > :19:48.that's in the coalition agreement is important. But, as you point out,
:19:48. > :19:53.it is a liberal Government which tried to reform the House of Lords
:19:53. > :19:58.a00 years ago but wasn't able to do so. It is very important part of
:19:58. > :20:02.the liberal approach to Government which is to say the dem rattic
:20:02. > :20:07.prince -- democratic principle should apply in the House of
:20:07. > :20:11.Commons and the upper House. What do you say to those Conservatives
:20:11. > :20:16.who say the British public really don't care? Politicians are
:20:16. > :20:19.obsessed by the opinion polls. The latest about the House of Lords is
:20:19. > :20:22.something like 70% of the British people think it should be reformed
:20:23. > :20:27.and reformed based on the democratic principle. So what
:20:27. > :20:30.happens if it cannot be reformed because Conservative MPs won't have
:20:30. > :20:35.it? Just remember this. It is not just Conservative MPs you have to
:20:35. > :20:40.take account of. It is the Labour Party. Although I'm disappointeded
:20:40. > :20:43.with Conservative MPs who don't believe in reform, I'm rather
:20:43. > :20:47.dumbfounded by the Labour Party which voted in principle for House
:20:47. > :20:51.of Lords reform but declined to provide support for the programme
:20:51. > :20:54.motion which would have allowed us to take that reform through and
:20:54. > :21:02.implement it. That is because the Labour Party think it is can smash
:21:02. > :21:10.the coalition on this process? is a pretty ignoble motive. I can't
:21:10. > :21:14.help thinking Robin Cook... late, lamb enteded Robin Cook.
:21:14. > :21:18.new - knew more about the House of Lords reform would be spinning in
:21:18. > :21:23.his grave somewhere. Is it true that if the Conservatives won't
:21:23. > :21:29.have this, your party won't have the boundary changes which would
:21:29. > :21:34.give them, it is said, another 20 seats in the election? I'm against
:21:34. > :21:38.tit for tat politics. In relation to a coalition, it is not pick and
:21:39. > :21:43.mix or to coin another phrase, coalitions are not just for
:21:43. > :21:49.Christmas. The purpose of this coalition, as Duchess of
:21:49. > :21:53.Cambridge's set out in the article -- as David Cameron's set out in
:21:53. > :21:57.the article in the Times is to restore economic stability. If
:21:57. > :22:00.there are people around who say we should break the coalition, I ask
:22:00. > :22:06.them this, do they think the British public would be impressed
:22:07. > :22:10.by the fact that a minority Government which lasted for three
:22:10. > :22:14.months would inevitably fall,' be back in the a general election and
:22:14. > :22:19.the consequences for the markets, confidence in the financial system
:22:19. > :22:23.severely dented. We are not top of the opinion polls at the moment and
:22:23. > :22:27.the Tories are 10% behind Labour. That suggests strongly that the
:22:27. > :22:35.Conservative MPs who want to kill off Lords reform can get away with
:22:35. > :22:41.it? Not as far as I'm concerned. Because the Prime Minister has -
:22:41. > :22:49.when you say get away with it, they can... They can block it, they can
:22:49. > :22:53.fall and life will go on? I don't believe that that. Why not? I was
:22:53. > :22:57.listening to the review of the papers. It is all doom and gloom.
:22:57. > :23:01.How many times have you had that week in politics. The recess is
:23:02. > :23:05.about to arrive. There's a opportunity to put this back
:23:05. > :23:08.together which will endorse the fact over 400 MPs voted in the
:23:09. > :23:12.House of Commons this week to reform the House of Lords.
:23:12. > :23:17.you're a Conservative opponent of this, you now know you can carry on
:23:17. > :23:23.opposing it after the recess and there will not be any consequences.
:23:23. > :23:28.I don't think you know that. From what you say that suggests... What
:23:28. > :23:32.consequences would be there? you're a Liberal Democrat member of
:23:32. > :23:38.Parliament whose Saturday has been substantially carved up as a result
:23:38. > :23:43.of proposals for a review of the boundaries, then the idea that you
:23:43. > :23:47.would simply march into the lobbies in support of the Conservative
:23:47. > :23:52.Government's particular anxiety to obtain this piece of legislation is
:23:52. > :23:56.one which may be very hard to swallow. I don't believe that it
:23:56. > :24:01.can be accepted that we will simply form up in the way some people
:24:01. > :24:06.think. I think there will be a lot of hard talking going on. So that
:24:07. > :24:13.threat remains? I don't regard it as a threat. I think these are two
:24:13. > :24:20.pronged s of the same agreement. I expect the first and second to be
:24:20. > :24:23.honoured. Presumably, this is a matter of absolutely central
:24:23. > :24:27.importance? One thing that could happen is both sides of the
:24:27. > :24:31.coalition could walk away. You could walk away from Lords reform
:24:31. > :24:35.and the Conservative could walk away from Boundary Commissions?
:24:35. > :24:39.think both sides will find that difficult. They've committed
:24:39. > :24:44.themselves. The coalition as a whole should find it difficult. It
:24:44. > :24:48.is part of the coalition agreement. You can't have a coalition on the
:24:48. > :24:53.basis of pick and mix. We'll have the things which we now like but
:24:53. > :24:59.the things that we don't. It has been suggested there may be some
:24:59. > :25:06.compromise on Lords reform. Getting rid of the remaining hereditary
:25:06. > :25:10.peers as an interim measure. We've had interim measures for 100 years.
:25:10. > :25:14.One of the interesting features about this, listen carefully to the
:25:14. > :25:19.speeches made by Conservative backbenchers opposing reform, not
:25:19. > :25:24.once did they mention the Democratic Deficit. If you believe
:25:24. > :25:29.in democracy, this, after all, is a country based on democratic
:25:29. > :25:35.principles which we seek to export round the world, how can you
:25:35. > :25:39.justify a second chamber which is not elected on a democratic mandate.
:25:40. > :25:44.Going ahead, you'll, as a party, stand on a very different manifesto
:25:45. > :25:47.from the Conservatives at the next election. It could be tuition fees,
:25:47. > :25:52.House of Lords again. Are you talking quietly to the Labour Party
:25:52. > :25:57.as well. Are you keeping those channels open? Well, I'm not. I'm
:25:57. > :26:02.no longer the leader so not directly concerned with these
:26:02. > :26:08.things. I'm politician of the centre-left. I always have been. I
:26:08. > :26:11.support a coalition, from which there are people with the sen --
:26:11. > :26:16.from the centre-right. It is sometimes described as a marriage
:26:16. > :26:23.of convenience. It is a marriage of inconvenience but it is necessary
:26:23. > :26:30.in order to restore nick -- economic stability. I hope our men
:26:30. > :26:34.fess toe will reflect that centre- left Position once we get economic
:26:34. > :26:39.stability reFord to the future of the UK. Do you reared Ed Miliband
:26:39. > :26:44.as applauseible, electible, serious leader? It is not for me to
:26:44. > :26:49.determine whether he is plausible, serious or electable. What I do say
:26:49. > :26:53.is after this week, it will be very difficult for Labour to claim to be
:26:53. > :26:57.a progressive party in favour of progressive politics when they used
:26:57. > :27:00.the question of the programme motion as a means of effectively
:27:00. > :27:07.doing down for the moment, the whole idea of Lords reform. They
:27:07. > :27:12.have a lot to answer for. Just quickly, you are on the overall
:27:12. > :27:17.body overseeing the Olympics. How do you react to the G4S scandal?
:27:17. > :27:23.The fact so close to the Olympics, they are so lacking in properly
:27:23. > :27:28.trained people to undertake basic security function? It is
:27:28. > :27:33.disappointing. You've Jeremy Hunt coming on. He knows rather more
:27:33. > :27:38.about this than I do. But we've 3,500 members of the British Army.
:27:38. > :27:43.The one thing we can be certain of is they'll do the job. They are
:27:43. > :27:47.flexible, adaptable. Follow instructions. A lot of the stuff
:27:47. > :27:54.they do now abroad is dealing with the public. Patting people down at
:27:54. > :27:57.checkpoints. So don't panic? Don't panic and they'll do it well.
:27:58. > :28:07.Ming Campbell, thank you. It is Presidential year in the
:28:08. > :28:09.
:28:09. > :28:15.Yates. Obama and Mitt Romney are neck and neck. President -- among
:28:15. > :28:18.those sticking by President Obama is Jessie Jackson. He came into the
:28:18. > :28:24.studio recently and we began by talking about music, hip hop in
:28:24. > :28:27.fact, many young black people found an outlet in a culture which is
:28:27. > :28:33.often criticiseded for being aggressive. But Jessie Jackson told
:28:33. > :28:37.me there is a more positive side to it. There are some hip-hop ways
:28:37. > :28:44.which are truly commendable. It is a way out. Music has become a way
:28:44. > :28:48.out. For so long, musicians just sang and danced. There was a high
:28:48. > :28:55.degree of political, social consciousness. That sometimes has
:28:55. > :28:59.frightened them because they expose hypocracy. They expose
:28:59. > :29:05.contradictions. It is always fascinating to listen to. On the
:29:05. > :29:10.positive side, you've hugely successful black entrepreneurs, a
:29:10. > :29:14.black President, you started really in public consciousness at the time
:29:14. > :29:18.of Martin Luther King and you knew him well. What do you think he
:29:18. > :29:25.would say now about the progress and lack of progress of black
:29:25. > :29:29.Americans? The progress side would be, I was arrested trying to use a
:29:29. > :29:33.public library. We're beyond that now. We were killed and beaten
:29:33. > :29:38.trying to get the right to vote. We're beyond that now. We have the
:29:38. > :29:43.social progress. But then there's this huge gap between the real
:29:43. > :29:51.wealthy, the 1 prs and the 99%. His last act was a organise a poor
:29:51. > :29:56.people's campaign to occupy the space between the Washington and
:29:56. > :30:02.Lincoln memorials. We will be measured ultimately by how we
:30:02. > :30:07.defend the poor and feed the hungry and set the captive free. Too few
:30:07. > :30:11.have concentrated wealth. Too many are in poverty. Too much violence
:30:12. > :30:15.in America and too much spent on unnecessary wars. Do you worry
:30:15. > :30:19.about the polarisation of American politics which seems to have gone
:30:19. > :30:26.alongside that? There's a great deal of anger? When President Obama
:30:26. > :30:31.won, it was very redemptive moment for America. Given the years of
:30:31. > :30:35.slavery, for him to win the election as a black man for the
:30:35. > :30:41.first time, it was a big step for America. Then came this huge
:30:41. > :30:44.backlash of attacks on his person. Donald trump challenged his
:30:45. > :30:54.citizenship, his bit right which was foolishness but it captured
:30:55. > :30:55.
:30:55. > :30:58.much of the imagination of the Some people on what in Europe is
:30:58. > :31:03.called the left are concerned with his enthusiasm for drone strikes in
:31:03. > :31:13.Pakistan. They feel that on foreign policy it has been too mawkish,
:31:13. > :31:15.
:31:15. > :31:18.particularly there. That is a great concern. We were attacked on 9/11
:31:18. > :31:21.and America is traumatised by the threat of Al-Qaeda and the threat
:31:21. > :31:26.of the Taliban and the fear of terrorism and the fear of suicide
:31:26. > :31:31.bombers. Against that context, he is operating. We hope that the idea
:31:31. > :31:35.of assassinations and attacks will stop. When you were a presidential
:31:35. > :31:38.candidate, it seemed to many people that the American presidency had
:31:38. > :31:44.more power perhaps than it does these days. That the Washington
:31:44. > :31:47.gridlock had not tightened quite so much as it has since then.
:31:47. > :31:51.gridlock now is a ideological. There are two ideas in American
:31:51. > :32:00.politics. The union for which the civil war was fought and States
:32:00. > :32:07.rights. 150 years after the Civil War was fought in America, they
:32:07. > :32:13.want to return rights to the States. Many of us could not vote, could
:32:13. > :32:17.not use public accommodation back then. Barack Obama argues for a
:32:17. > :32:20.more perfect union, on the Abraham Lincoln side. And I think he will
:32:20. > :32:30.prevail because he has got a track record and we are better of today
:32:30. > :32:33.than we were four years ago. -- better off. Four years ago, if
:32:33. > :32:37.people did not fall in love with Barack Obama, they fell in love
:32:38. > :32:41.with the idea of Barack Obama. After four years of governing,
:32:41. > :32:46.people know him as a poised, deliberative, perhaps sometimes
:32:46. > :32:53.even slightly cool character. Much less a Michelin open and somebody
:32:53. > :32:58.like Bill Clinton. Do you think America can fall in love with
:32:58. > :33:03.Barack Obama again? He has brought honour to the office, no disgrace.
:33:03. > :33:06.He has brought strength to office. A keen intellect. He has brought
:33:06. > :33:10.two of his progress. We have gone from going out the back door
:33:10. > :33:20.because of the pressure to making rules again. Albeit slow because
:33:20. > :33:22.
:33:22. > :33:32.the stimulus has not responded to the size of the crisis. Detroit is
:33:32. > :33:39.back. It is four years of progress and hope and a line of joy, no
:33:39. > :33:43.disgrace. Dignity, I am convinced. Jesse Jackson, thank you very much
:33:43. > :33:47.indeed for joining us. The Reverend Jesse Jackson, talking
:33:47. > :33:50.to me a while ago. He was in London for a debate about hip-hop culture
:33:50. > :33:58.which you can see if you're interested on the Google Plus
:33:58. > :34:02.channel on the internet. Lang Lang's extrovert style has won
:34:02. > :34:06.him many of fans and he has inspired piano craze in his own
:34:06. > :34:11.country, China, as well as taking piano music to new audiences around
:34:11. > :34:13.the world. You may have seen his commanding performance on stage at
:34:13. > :34:17.the Queen's Jubilee concert at Buckingham Palace and this weekend
:34:17. > :34:25.he is at another unusual venue of the Latitude music and arts venue
:34:25. > :34:33.in Suffolk. Good morning, Lang Lang. But morning. I can see sunshine
:34:33. > :34:37.behind you, no rain. -- good morning. The first thing to ask you,
:34:37. > :34:42.Latitude, like other rock festivals, known for its planned in pop and
:34:42. > :34:46.rock music and all the rest of it, how does it feel to be bringing
:34:46. > :34:51.classical music to this audience? am still trying to figure out the
:34:51. > :34:55.right repertoire to play for our audience today! I just want to say
:34:55. > :35:00.that it is really cool to be here and we are really lucky with the
:35:00. > :35:03.weather. It is pretty warm actually. That is good to hear. Presumably it
:35:03. > :35:06.is part in breaking down the boundaries. Certainly in this
:35:07. > :35:10.country there is one group of people that have traditionally gone
:35:10. > :35:14.to classical concerts and different people that go to rock concerts.
:35:14. > :35:18.Your message is that actually you should go to all sorts of music and
:35:18. > :35:24.there is no necessary boundary between the two. I think we should
:35:24. > :35:28.do both. During this season most of the time I play in the concert hall,
:35:28. > :35:34.and then in the summertime it is a really nice chance to try something
:35:34. > :35:41.different. Add to communicate classical music with different
:35:41. > :35:45.groups of audiences. At the Queen's Jubilee concert, which was the last
:35:45. > :35:49.equivalent, I suppose, you have shown some pretty popular melodies
:35:49. > :35:55.and tunes, do you feel you have to compromise too much when you are
:35:55. > :36:05.playing to that kind of mixed audience? Not really. Today are
:36:05. > :36:06.
:36:06. > :36:09.will be focusing on Sherpao. -- I will be focusing on the Romantic
:36:09. > :36:13.period. We are doing the same as in a concert hall but with a different
:36:13. > :36:20.audience. It was the beginning of the Beijing Olympics that shot you
:36:20. > :36:23.to phone around the world. -- to fame. Presumably all those people
:36:23. > :36:30.performing at the beginning and end of our Olympics will be looking
:36:30. > :36:35.forward to the same sort of global audience. Yes. I think the London
:36:35. > :36:42.Olympics will be amazing. And actually really looking forward to
:36:42. > :36:47.it. I will be in the audience this time to be in a stadium for the
:36:47. > :36:53.opening. The level of tension must be enormous. You have gone into it
:36:53. > :37:00.yourself. Any advice? One of the challenge is in Beijing was the
:37:01. > :37:06.heat. It was so hot, almost like 37 or 38. But in London, I think, it
:37:06. > :37:14.will be much better. The weather is much cooler. Just enjoy the time.
:37:14. > :37:17.It will be one of the best moments in your life. That is a safe
:37:17. > :37:27.prediction, Lang Lang! What will you be playing at the end of the
:37:27. > :37:31.
:37:31. > :37:37.show? I will play Hop. To play that it -- to play that study on the
:37:37. > :37:43.lake will be very relaxing. Thank you for joining us.
:37:43. > :37:46.Apart from the opening ceremonies and closing ceremonies, 14,000
:37:46. > :37:49.athletes, 10 million spectators, 30 different venues, when you consider
:37:49. > :37:52.the scale of the Olympics there were always going to be some
:37:52. > :37:58.glitches but the problems with G4S that we were talking about a more
:37:58. > :38:05.serious than that. There is also concern about the transport system.
:38:05. > :38:11.And also are the games becoming too corporate? -- Games. Jeremy Hunt is
:38:11. > :38:15.with me now. Welcome. Let's talk about the G4S security problem. Now
:38:15. > :38:19.we know that the Government were talking to them for months and
:38:20. > :38:27.months and months about security, it does seem a little strange that
:38:27. > :38:31.it is only so close to the Games that the full scale of the problem
:38:31. > :38:34.has become apparent. I will talk about that in a moment but Lang
:38:34. > :38:37.Lang has got it right and it will be fantastic for the country and we
:38:37. > :38:42.have to keep things in perspective. Off court we have been monitoring
:38:43. > :38:51.the situation with G4S and their management told us until last week
:38:51. > :38:54.that everything was on track. -- of course. When they told last it was
:38:54. > :38:57.not, we put in place the contingency plan that we have had
:38:57. > :39:01.in place the whole time as a contingency plan. We are lucky to
:39:01. > :39:05.have the armed forces that can do this wonderful job, as Sir Ming
:39:05. > :39:09.Campbell said. I want to say this to the family is coming to the
:39:09. > :39:13.Olympics. There will be 11,000 troops helping alongside trained
:39:13. > :39:17.G4S stuff and I am sure the ones we have will be very good to make this
:39:17. > :39:20.a very safe Olympics. People should put their minds at rest. This will
:39:20. > :39:27.be a wonderful summer and we will not compromise anything to make
:39:27. > :39:29.sure it is safe as well. Without putting too much of a damper on it
:39:30. > :39:35.nonetheless, I am not sure whether it was the fact that ministers were
:39:35. > :39:41.not asking the right questions of G4S, or whether you were getting
:39:41. > :39:45.back lies or completely obfuscating replies. Were you pressing them
:39:45. > :39:50.properly? Nothing is more important from the Government's point of view
:39:50. > :39:54.than the security side of it. G4S were given this vastly expensive
:39:54. > :39:58.contract. There have been endless meetings between the Government and
:39:58. > :40:02.G4S. What was going wrong? Well, we were asking the right questions and
:40:03. > :40:06.we were being told everything was on track. We thought we must have a
:40:06. > :40:11.contingency plan in place just in case it is not. The moment we were
:40:11. > :40:15.told they would not meet the targets, reactivated the plan. We
:40:15. > :40:20.just think there is a danger... We have talked about the hit that we
:40:20. > :40:24.sorted out. There is a danger of forgetting the bigger picture.
:40:24. > :40:28.will come on to that but I want to be clear about that. What are your
:40:28. > :40:32.feelings, the Government's feelings about it? It is a pretty vast
:40:32. > :40:36.mistake for a company to be so far out on the numbers of people that
:40:36. > :40:40.it promises it will bring as train security staff to an event like
:40:40. > :40:45.this. They ever going to get a contract again from this
:40:46. > :40:49.Government? Are you angry? What is your reaction? This is not the
:40:49. > :40:53.moment to be getting into the blame game. G4S have been honourable.
:40:53. > :40:56.They put up their hands, Nick Buckles has apologised, they will
:40:57. > :41:00.cover the costs, and they have apologised to the troops being
:41:00. > :41:04.drafted in at the last moment. I think this is a moment for pulling
:41:04. > :41:11.together. And it is an amazing project. Can I make this point? I
:41:11. > :41:15.do not think the Olympics have been reflected in the newspaper
:41:15. > :41:19.headlines properly. The Olympic Village is the biggest construction
:41:19. > :41:23.project in Europe and it was completed on time and within budget.
:41:23. > :41:26.That is a triumph for the British construction industry. At a time
:41:26. > :41:31.when people are fed up with this kind of politics, this whole
:41:31. > :41:34.project has been a model of cross- party co-operation with Labour
:41:34. > :41:41.firing a starting gun and a coalition Karina batten over the
:41:41. > :41:46.starting line. -- the coalition carrying the batten. We have half
:41:46. > :41:53.the schools in the country registering a fall Olympics style
:41:53. > :41:58.games, so more Olympic sport going forward. So you do not feel anger
:41:58. > :42:01.or betrayal about the behaviour of G4S? It is completely normal that
:42:01. > :42:05.there will be some contractors on a project of this size that cannot
:42:05. > :42:07.deliver what they promised. As a minister, you have to make sure
:42:07. > :42:12.there are contingency plans in place so that the overall project
:42:12. > :42:16.is not at risk and that is what we have done. Are you happy with the
:42:16. > :42:20.quality of staff that have been selected? What about the stories of
:42:20. > :42:24.people that cannot be English in charge of security? Let's be clear.
:42:24. > :42:27.To be selected you have to pass the security industry qualification,
:42:27. > :42:32.which means you have to speak English. There is a process going
:42:32. > :42:36.on. One of the reasons that we have brought in extra help from the
:42:36. > :42:41.armed forces is because we do not want G4S to be pushing through
:42:41. > :42:44.people who should not be doing the job. We know that the people they
:42:44. > :42:49.push through will be good because they have passed the qualifications
:42:49. > :42:54.and they have done the minimum of five days' training. We have got
:42:54. > :42:57.these fantastic soldiers and sailors. And if necessary there may
:42:57. > :43:01.be more coming from the armed services to fill the gap? We have
:43:01. > :43:05.contingency plans for all eventualities. We are very lucky in
:43:05. > :43:08.this country. I will just make this one point. If your bag is being
:43:08. > :43:12.searched by a soldier as you go through to get into the Olympic
:43:12. > :43:15.Park, I hope people will say thank you because that person may well
:43:15. > :43:19.have come back from Afghanistan, come back from annual leave and
:43:19. > :43:25.they do a fantastic job for our country. We are so lucky to have
:43:25. > :43:30.them. What about the Transport Questions? Will the tube be able to
:43:30. > :43:34.cope? And the lanes, including from Heathrow, will they work? I have
:43:34. > :43:38.spoken to people on the front line at Heathrow this morning and people
:43:38. > :43:42.are getting through the immigration checks. It is busy. Over the next
:43:42. > :43:45.few weeks we will have the busiest period in Heathrow's history.
:43:45. > :43:50.London Underground and the buses will be busy and we do not want to
:43:50. > :43:56.pretend that it will take longer to get around, when we host the
:43:56. > :44:00.biggest sporting event in the world, but we want people to come with
:44:00. > :44:04.their families from Norwich, chest and Plymouth, and have a fantastic
:44:04. > :44:09.day out. Even if they do not have tickets, there will be fantastic
:44:09. > :44:13.big screens in Hyde Park and other places. It will take a bit longer.
:44:13. > :44:17.Your message is to come? Come, it will be fun. If you have got
:44:17. > :44:20.children, you will want them to be able to say that they were there in
:44:20. > :44:24.this fantastic summer when London had the huge honour of hosting this
:44:24. > :44:29.amazing sports event. You will want to be part of it in some way or
:44:30. > :44:33.another. As Lang Lang said, we want to support that. It was a fantastic
:44:33. > :44:40.British moment when he said it was very warm but he was wearing a
:44:40. > :44:43.scarf! If prepare for all eventualities! Absolutely. Mark
:44:43. > :44:47.Rylance was on show a week ago and he said he was not terribly happy
:44:47. > :44:52.about McDonald's and some of the other big corporate names. We
:44:52. > :44:56.understand that corporate sponsorship is part of the modern
:44:56. > :44:58.Olympic world. Some of these big brands are not exactly healthy
:44:58. > :45:05.eating browns and they are not sending the right message to the
:45:05. > :45:09.school children involved. Do you have any uneasiness? I would make a
:45:09. > :45:13.couple of points there. First of all, the Olympics is much stricter
:45:13. > :45:17.than any other international sport event about branding. There is no
:45:17. > :45:23.branding on the inside of any of the Olympic venues, which is a
:45:23. > :45:29.complete change to football, rugby, cricket, everything else. They do
:45:29. > :45:32.take trouble to make it as uncommercial as possible. But these
:45:32. > :45:36.sponsors are paying for half the cost of hosting these Olympics. If
:45:36. > :45:40.they were not doing that, we would have to do it as taxpayers and we
:45:40. > :45:50.cannot have it both ways. We have to recognise that they are doing a
:45:50. > :45:52.
:45:52. > :45:56.First time wech' talked since - we've talked since the Leveson
:45:56. > :46:00.Inquiry. Looking back, do you have any questions over your
:46:00. > :46:05.relationship with the Murdoch team? Were you a little naive, got too
:46:05. > :46:09.close to them? I had some sympathy for this bid before I took
:46:09. > :46:14.responsibility for this it. This was an exhaustive process. When all
:46:14. > :46:18.the evidence came out, what became clear, I gave evidence for five-
:46:18. > :46:22.and-a-half hours, because I'd expressed those sympathies I put in
:46:22. > :46:26.place a process before every big decision I took I sought
:46:26. > :46:31.independent advice from Ofcom and the Office of Fair Trading. I
:46:31. > :46:37.followed that advice. I hope that has reassured the public. Did you
:46:37. > :46:41.squirm slightly when you saw those emails and text messages made
:46:41. > :46:45.public? Of course there are moments when you think things you didn't
:46:45. > :46:49.expect to be made public are. But the important thing is the
:46:49. > :46:55.integrity of the decision making process. We did take independent
:46:55. > :46:59.advice. But also, we've learnt a great deal about how to conduct
:46:59. > :47:06.these processes in the future. you learned lessons you will carry
:47:06. > :47:11.with you? Absolutely. We'll wait to see what Lord Justice Leveson said.
:47:11. > :47:15.The Cabinet secretary's already sent round new guidelines about how
:47:15. > :47:19.we conduct qais eye judicial situations. We need to keep our
:47:20. > :47:24.distance from media prop righters. David Cameron's introduced a rule
:47:24. > :47:28.which says all meetings with media prop righters, editors, by
:47:28. > :47:34.ministers have to be published. That prance parancey is the best
:47:34. > :47:38.way of making sure the public know what's happening. Back at the time,
:47:38. > :47:42.everybody was saying you would be a dead duck, it is all over for
:47:42. > :47:48.Jeremy Hunt. You've survived thus far. Do you look forward to
:47:48. > :47:51.maintaining a Cabinet career in the years ahead? I very much hope so.
:47:51. > :47:55.That's the decision of the Prime Minister. I have to lot of things
:47:55. > :48:01.I'm very excited about not least the Olympics which will be
:48:01. > :48:06.fantastic. That's what I'm focusing on at the moment. You came into
:48:06. > :48:10.this huge row right at the beginning because you feared that
:48:10. > :48:17.if this bid didn't go through, Britain's media industry would be
:48:17. > :48:21.harmed. That the whole new range of company that Rupert Murdoch
:48:21. > :48:25.wanteded to put together was essential to Britain's media
:48:25. > :48:29.survival. The deal hasn't gone through. He has pulled back in some
:48:29. > :48:33.respects to the United States, does that mean you are now worried about
:48:33. > :48:37.the condition of the media and the future of media businesses in
:48:37. > :48:41.Britain? First of all, ierpl' very proud of our media industry. We
:48:41. > :48:46.have fantastically high quality television. Some of the highest
:48:46. > :48:50.quality television in the world and a very robust newspaper industry.
:48:50. > :48:55.But I've always wanted to make sure they do modernise and recognise
:48:55. > :49:01.we're in the middle of a huge technology revolution. But, as far
:49:01. > :49:06.as the bid was concerned, I set those views aside. That was my view
:49:06. > :49:10.as a seblgtry of state but when I was responsible for the bid itself
:49:10. > :49:15.I was looking at something different. Did you contemplate
:49:15. > :49:19.resignation? Think I'm going to have to go? You think about these
:49:19. > :49:24.things but, in the end, I thought the most important thing for the
:49:24. > :49:27.public was the integrity of the bid and the fact that I acted
:49:27. > :49:32.impatienty and followed independent advice. I thought it was very
:49:32. > :49:35.important that I stayed to make the case so people understood under
:49:35. > :49:39.huge pressure it was the most important thing the Government got
:49:39. > :49:43.right. Do you feel you were on the edge? That's what everybody else
:49:43. > :49:49.thought? It was an experience being at the centre of a media scrum.
:49:49. > :49:54.That's part of the territory in a democracy. Turning to the coalition
:49:54. > :50:01.more generally, Lords reform, as it was agreed in the coalition
:50:01. > :50:04.document, largely 80% elected, 15- year terms, PR etc. Are you
:50:04. > :50:09.yourself signed up to that? actually would go further. I would
:50:09. > :50:14.like to have is a stronger House of Lords. I would go for a wholly
:50:15. > :50:19.elected House of Lords. I think if you give it democratic legitimacy,
:50:19. > :50:24.it will be stronger. I think that will be good for Parliament and
:50:24. > :50:27.holding the executive to account. We came to a sensible agreement.
:50:27. > :50:31.What's your message to those Conservatives who voted against it
:50:31. > :50:35.on second reading? We need to make the case. I want a strong
:50:35. > :50:42.Parliament. I happen to believe a strong House of Lords is a good
:50:42. > :50:46.thing for the whole of Parliament. We talk about the primacy of the
:50:46. > :50:51.House of Commons. That's because it is wholly elected. Do you think the
:50:51. > :50:55.Government failed to whip strongly enough? I think they tried very
:50:55. > :51:00.hard but there are issues which divide parties. The NHS reforms
:51:00. > :51:04.were a very difficult issue for the Liberal Democrats. We went through
:51:04. > :51:08.those reforms, made some changes to make it acceptable for people like
:51:08. > :51:13.Shirley Williams. I hope that's what we'll do with Lords reform.
:51:13. > :51:16.Find a way to go forward which satszifies their concerns.
:51:16. > :51:25.heard Menzies Campbell say it will be difficult to go through the
:51:25. > :51:30.lobbies with boundary change s. If that happens, what's theure for the
:51:30. > :51:34.coalition. I heard Menzies Campbell say he didn't agree with tit for
:51:34. > :51:38.tat policies. He went on to talk about Boundary Commissions. We are
:51:38. > :51:41.in a coalition. The coalition recognises we are two different
:51:41. > :51:44.parties with two different political traditions but we are
:51:44. > :51:47.coming together on this issue and many others in the national
:51:47. > :51:51.interest. When we face the economic crisis that we are facing at the
:51:51. > :51:55.moment across the whole of Europe, the country needs strong Government.
:51:55. > :51:59.That's the shared values that underpin the coalition. I think
:51:59. > :52:03.that will continue. Chances of making it through to the election?
:52:03. > :52:08.Arm in arm? Shoulder to shoulder? have no doubt that we will. I make
:52:08. > :52:13.this point. The coalition hasn't just come together because we need
:52:13. > :52:16.strong Government in tough economic times. We've also got this very
:52:16. > :52:22.important belief that we need to tackle some of the non-economic
:52:23. > :52:26.issues that we face in a radical, brave way. You make a choice as a
:52:26. > :52:30.Government. You govern for popularity, which is what the last
:52:30. > :52:35.Government did, you may stay ahead in the polls for a long time but
:52:35. > :52:40.duck a lot of the issues or you take on these issues. The cultural
:52:40. > :52:44.failure in parts of our education system, the terrible waste of
:52:44. > :52:48.talent, people stuck in welfare roles. These are deep-seated
:52:48. > :52:55.problems. We are determined to confront them. That will mean we
:52:55. > :53:01.have to tough patch and may well mean we're behind in the polls.
:53:01. > :53:05.has a new Director General, message to him? Everything I've heard about
:53:05. > :53:11.him suggests to me this is someone who, as a person, is modest, decent
:53:11. > :53:16.but is passionately commit ed to excellence in programming. I can't
:53:16. > :53:20.think of anyone better to represent the BBC. What do you think the BBC
:53:20. > :53:24.needs to do over the next few years to change further? You know, there
:53:24. > :53:30.are tough economic times. There's going to be cost that is have to be
:53:30. > :53:33.cuts. That's an incredibly difficult process. There's a big
:53:33. > :53:37.technology revolution which Mark Thompson was successful as riding.
:53:37. > :53:41.That will be a very big challenge. Most of all, the BBC has to remain
:53:41. > :53:47.true to its core values. It is about finding something special and
:53:47. > :53:52.different that the BBC does in every area that it does. Not always
:53:52. > :54:01.chasing ratings. One fantastic example of that, a month ago I went
:54:01. > :54:05.to a concert outside stirlg. That was broadcast on BBC Four. It had
:54:05. > :54:09.330,000 viewers but it was a fantastic thing for the BBC to be
:54:09. > :54:13.doing. Timey, there will be a reshuffle in the autumn. Do you
:54:13. > :54:17.want a different job? I would love to stay where I am. There's a lot
:54:17. > :54:20.to do with securing the Olympic legacy. You expect to stay?
:54:20. > :54:24.can't expect anything. It is the gift of the Prime Minister. I love
:54:24. > :54:28.what I'm doing-the-next couple of months will really show that.
:54:28. > :54:32.Jeremy Hunt, thank you for joining us. Over to Naga for the news
:54:32. > :54:38.headlines. The Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt
:54:38. > :54:42.called on everyone involved in the Olympic s to pull together. Mr Hunt
:54:42. > :54:46.told us it was completely normal that private companies would
:54:46. > :54:51.occasionally be unable to deliver on contracts. He said it shouldn't
:54:51. > :54:55.be made into a political issue. It has been confirmed inspectors
:54:55. > :55:02.raised concerns ten months ago about security planning for the
:55:02. > :55:05.games. G4Sed admitted it was unable to supply enough guards. Over 3,000
:55:05. > :55:10.soldiers have been drafted in to help.
:55:10. > :55:16.UN observers will furpb to the village of trem say in Syria where
:55:16. > :55:21.at least 300 people are thought to have been killed. Heavy weaponry
:55:21. > :55:25.were used. Homes of rebels and activists were targeted. Opposition
:55:25. > :55:30.supporters claimed unarmed civilians were killed in the attack.
:55:30. > :55:34.That's it from me for now. The next news on BBC One is at midday. Back
:55:34. > :55:38.to Andrew in a moment. First, a look at what's coming up after the
:55:38. > :55:44.show. On Sunday live, magistrates found
:55:44. > :55:48.John Terry innocent of racial abuse. Should it have gone to court? Is it
:55:48. > :55:54.wrong to promote contraceptive jabs to women in the developing world
:55:54. > :55:58.and Jamie Oliver's wife spice on his emails and texts? Is it always
:55:58. > :56:04.wrong to snoop on your partner? That's all we've time for this
:56:04. > :56:09.morning. Join me g next Sunday for our last show before the summer