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:00:41. > :00:51.Good morning. Either way, that is probably the last time you will see

:00:51. > :00:54.

:00:54. > :00:59.that car. We are returning from the BBC's new headquarters. By will be

:00:59. > :01:04.turning up in a new fashion - skateboard, paragliding - I have no

:01:04. > :01:10.idea but it will probably involve public humiliation. I will be

:01:10. > :01:19.talking with the veteran American network news anchor Tom Brokaw, and

:01:19. > :01:26.beside him Tessa Jowell, now with a key role in the Olympics. There is

:01:26. > :01:31.much coverage of the Colorado massacre, and Louis Susman will be

:01:31. > :01:37.reflecting on America's sad history of these kinds of killings, but on

:01:37. > :01:43.a happier note he will be hosting Michelle Obama whilst Mitt Romney

:01:43. > :01:53.is also in town. Of course, just five days to go until the Olympic

:01:53. > :01:54.

:01:54. > :01:59.opening ceremony itself. Has that been too much whingeing about that?

:01:59. > :02:06.Boris Johnson will be talking about that, as well as London's legacy.

:02:06. > :02:09.If you are looking for sporting omens, Bradley Wiggins is set to

:02:09. > :02:15.become the first Brit to win the Tour de France this afternoon, and

:02:15. > :02:19.it is not trust him. There are a lot of good cyclists at the moment.

:02:19. > :02:26.Chris Boardman who led the way with gold at the Barcelona Games joins

:02:26. > :02:31.us from Paris. Not everyone is sporting minded, and we have some

:02:31. > :02:39.greats from the music business - Daniel Barenboim is here to talk

:02:39. > :02:49.about conducting at the Proms. Finally, singing live in the studio

:02:49. > :02:55.

:02:55. > :03:00.we have a very successful British singer-songwriter, Rumer. A mellow

:03:00. > :03:05.end to a busy morning. First, the news.

:03:05. > :03:10.President Obama will visit Colorado today to meet relatives of the

:03:10. > :03:15.victims of Friday's mass shooting. The 12 people who were killed have

:03:15. > :03:20.been formally identified, the youngest was a girl aged six.

:03:20. > :03:25.Police say they have removed the booby traps from the apartment of

:03:25. > :03:30.James Holmes, who was believed to have carried out the attacks. This

:03:30. > :03:39.is James Holmes's apartment, booby- trapped with chemicals and

:03:39. > :03:45.explosives. It had to be made safe before federal agents could move in.

:03:45. > :03:48.It has taken the police and the FBI two days to safely clear the

:03:48. > :03:53.complex booby-trapped that was left in the apartment. They have now

:03:53. > :03:58.done that, the danger is largely over, and they can folksong

:03:58. > :04:04.collecting evidence. We talk about motive, defences, deliberation.

:04:04. > :04:10.Make no mistake, this apartment was designed, I say, based on

:04:10. > :04:14.everything I have seen, to kill anyone who entered it. He was most

:04:14. > :04:19.likely to enter their location after he planned and executed this

:04:19. > :04:24.crime was going to be a police officer. The movie theatre, where

:04:24. > :04:34.the shooting took place, has been clear by forensic scientists. The

:04:34. > :04:36.

:04:36. > :04:41.identities of those who died have now been released. Near the scene

:04:41. > :04:47.of the shooting, spontaneous outpouring of public grief, in a

:04:47. > :04:52.community still very shaken by what happened here. Flowers and tributes

:04:52. > :04:59.for the 27 year-old killed on his birthday, people paying respects to

:04:59. > :05:03.the dead, all the time still wondering why.

:05:03. > :05:09.Services will be held across Norway today to mark the first anniversary

:05:09. > :05:15.of the attacks by Anders Breivik in which 77 people died. Flowers will

:05:15. > :05:19.be laid at the scene of the bomb blast and on the island where he

:05:19. > :05:24.shot dead 69 activists attending a summer camp.

:05:24. > :05:30.Thousands of people are reported to have fled Syria's second city

:05:30. > :05:35.Aleppo. It has become the latest focus with fierce clashes between

:05:35. > :05:38.government troops and rebel fighters. It had previously been

:05:38. > :05:43.spared the bloodshed since the uprising began.

:05:43. > :05:49.Bradley Wiggins is set and secured a place among Britain's sporting

:05:49. > :05:52.great today, to become the winner of the Tour de France. Only an

:05:52. > :05:57.accident can prevent him from clenching the race title this

:05:57. > :06:01.afternoon. He is more than three minutes ahead of his nearest rival.

:06:01. > :06:04.There is also a tradition that the race lead was not challenged on the

:06:04. > :06:08.final day. Some day trading laws in England

:06:08. > :06:15.and Wales will be suspended until the end of the Olympics and

:06:15. > :06:24.Paralympics. The government says it will help retailers generate extra

:06:24. > :06:29.revenue but many small shopkeepers fear they will lose out. I will be

:06:29. > :06:36.back just before 10 o'clock with the headlines.

:06:36. > :06:42.In a few hours, Bradley Wiggins is set to peddle through Paris, having

:06:42. > :06:47.made a remarkable piece of sporting history when he does. He will

:06:47. > :06:51.become the first British winner of the event in its history, with an

:06:51. > :06:58.unbeatable lead going into the final ride in Paris. Someone who

:06:58. > :07:03.knows all about cycling success is Chris Boardman, who is in Paris,

:07:03. > :07:08.and I asked him to put this achievement into context. I am

:07:08. > :07:13.getting sick of saying the word unprecedented, it is unprecedented

:07:13. > :07:19.the amount of times I have said unprecedented in the last few weeks.

:07:19. > :07:24.It has been a phenomenal race with British domination. The whole Team

:07:24. > :07:29.Sky team has been incredible, with Mark Cavendish, Bradley Wiggins,

:07:29. > :07:34.and his team mate in second place. They could not have asked for a

:07:34. > :07:39.better Tour de France than the one they are having now. For people who

:07:39. > :07:45.don't know about the Tour de France, tell us about the physical demands

:07:45. > :07:50.this race puts on you because it is like nothing else. It is such an

:07:50. > :07:57.extreme events, absolutely unique in the world of sport. There is no

:07:57. > :08:03.other event I can think of which is three weeks long, covering so many

:08:03. > :08:07.kilometres, using up to 7000 calories every day. It is amazing

:08:07. > :08:13.for a start now we are at the end of three weeks of that and they

:08:13. > :08:18.will be fresh enough to go on to the Olympic Games. There is barely

:08:18. > :08:23.a heartbeat, and they finished this extraordinary gruelling competition,

:08:23. > :08:33.and then they are into the Olympics. Is that a big problem for the

:08:33. > :08:34.

:08:34. > :08:38.athletes? Ironically, the body super compensate sponsored realises

:08:38. > :08:46.you are not going to stop doing this, it begins to repair much

:08:46. > :08:50.quicker. It is anon impact sport, energy reserves are you stop but

:08:50. > :08:55.they can be replenished quite quickly. This is the best

:08:56. > :08:59.preparation you can get, so I would expect to see Bradley Wiggins

:08:59. > :09:05.challenging again for a gold medal in the individual time-trial, and

:09:05. > :09:09.Mark Cavendish in the road race on Saturday. A sense of real

:09:09. > :09:14.excitement in the UK about the number of medals we might get in

:09:14. > :09:19.cycling this time around. I don't think we will get near the levels

:09:19. > :09:25.we saw in Beijing because there have been some rule changes with

:09:25. > :09:29.less events now and we can't have more than two competitors per

:09:29. > :09:35.nation, but nevertheless I would forecast they will be extremely

:09:35. > :09:40.successful in London. The track team is training in Newport now,

:09:40. > :09:46.and reports are that they are going extremely quick and everyone is fit

:09:46. > :09:51.and healthy. You yourself started all this in terms of British

:09:51. > :09:56.success back in Barcelona when you got your gold. Why is it the

:09:56. > :10:00.British have become good at cycling? We never used to be.

:10:00. > :10:06.Whenever there question is posed, I take complete and full

:10:06. > :10:12.responsibility for the success we have had to date! I am a believer

:10:12. > :10:19.in the adage that success breeds success. If you get an individual

:10:19. > :10:23.who performs well and their training partners alongside them

:10:23. > :10:27.say I have actually beaten this person in this race and they

:10:27. > :10:34.suddenly believe it is possible, they find an extra level of

:10:34. > :10:39.commitment. It moves through the squad, and that is what has

:10:39. > :10:43.happened since winning at the Sydney Olympics, it has moved

:10:43. > :10:48.through the squad, and you believe in the methodology for getting

:10:48. > :10:55.those gold medals as well. It is simply that - belief it is possible,

:10:55. > :11:02.and proves it is possible. The sun is shining. I understand it is

:11:02. > :11:07.impossible now for Bradley Wiggins not to win. How was he feeling?

:11:07. > :11:14.was discussing this yesterday. It is a very curious affair, the Tour

:11:14. > :11:19.de France. Traditionally, the last stage of the race into Paris is a

:11:19. > :11:24.promenade so riders are riding slowly, talking, there is often

:11:24. > :11:30.champagne in the peloton and when they come into Paris it is hell for

:11:30. > :11:36.leather. It is a race for the final few laps and it is one of the most

:11:36. > :11:41.coveted stages to win. At that point it really is a race, but if

:11:41. > :11:47.Bradley Wiggins has a mishap in the last few kilometres he is awarded

:11:47. > :11:52.the same time. Anyone who has a problem in the last few kilometres

:11:52. > :11:58.are rewarded the same time so realistically he can't lose it.

:11:58. > :12:06.Theoretically he could, but it is all over bar the shouting. Thank

:12:06. > :12:11.you. Interesting rules. Anyway, Chris

:12:11. > :12:15.Boardman on Bradley Wiggins' impending glory. This is the main

:12:15. > :12:18.story in the newspapers today, but there are a lot of other stories.

:12:18. > :12:28.The Sunday Times saying the Israelis are worried about possible

:12:28. > :12:29.

:12:29. > :12:36.Iranian attack at the Olympic Games and have spent a lot of security

:12:36. > :12:46.people into London. There is Bradley Wiggins again. A very

:12:46. > :12:46.

:12:46. > :12:53.cheeky Sunday Express front page - Kate and William's hope for

:12:53. > :13:02.children, and you think they have an interview with them but they

:13:02. > :13:06.have not. Scotland on Sunday has a genuinely interesting story with

:13:07. > :13:11.the Independent debate going on. It says a majority of Scottish people

:13:11. > :13:17.would want an independent Scotland to stay in NATO. The Sunday

:13:17. > :13:26.Telegraph here - foreign criminals, we don't try to deport pictures as

:13:26. > :13:30.well of some of the people killed in that shooting. Tom Brokaw and

:13:30. > :13:36.Tessa Jowell, thank you for coming in to review the papers. Tom, a

:13:36. > :13:41.terrible, sad story from your homeland, and there is a lot of

:13:41. > :13:46.coverage about whether the killer was directly influenced by Batman

:13:46. > :13:52.plot lines and so on. There is no history of destructive behaviour on

:13:52. > :13:58.his part, as there have been with others - signs of mental illness.

:13:58. > :14:01.This is an open wound on the American psyche. These are

:14:01. > :14:07.heartbreaking tragedy is and I honestly believe we need to have a

:14:07. > :14:13.far more robust dialogue about violence in our society. It is not

:14:13. > :14:17.just about the guns and the access to them, it is about violence on

:14:17. > :14:21.celebrity and attention, and I hope we will learn more about this man

:14:21. > :14:31.and what motivated him but the consequences are almost beyond

:14:31. > :14:32.

:14:32. > :14:36.belief. A year ago, Norway was coming to terms with the horrific

:14:36. > :14:43.murders by Anders Breivik. I wonder, given the momentum of the election

:14:43. > :14:48.campaign in the US gathering, where the gun control will go up the

:14:48. > :14:53.agenda as the debate. Will that be the American reaction to this?

:14:53. > :14:58.are already beginning to see some of that, but I guess it will not

:14:58. > :15:06.advance very much. It turns out the weapons he got, he bought under the

:15:06. > :15:09.current rules. There was a check on him at a place that was a very big

:15:09. > :15:12.national sporting train. They immediately said they did the

:15:12. > :15:17.cheques that were required. If you took the automatic weapon out of

:15:17. > :15:22.that, he could have done extraordinary damage with sporting

:15:22. > :15:32.rifles so it is not just a matter of access. It is about the culture

:15:32. > :15:32.

:15:32. > :15:38.and what kind of society we want to Just to add, very quickly, the

:15:38. > :15:44.Dunblane tragedy of course affected the way in which shooting as a

:15:44. > :15:49.sport in this country can now be conducted. It was much tighter.

:15:49. > :15:53.Let's turn to British politics now. Your man is doing better in the

:15:53. > :15:59.polls there. He's doing an awful lot better. Oh, I'm sorry! The last

:15:59. > :16:04.year has seen a turn around with even people like you, Andrew, I

:16:04. > :16:08.think with all your obligations of impartiality recognising this has

:16:08. > :16:13.been a very good year for Ed Miliband as Labour leader. It's

:16:13. > :16:17.been a terrible year for David Cameron and George Osborne. Most of

:16:17. > :16:23.all, it's been an awful year for the British people. Hasn't it been

:16:23. > :16:26.a terrible year, to be fair, for all incumbents, given the state of

:16:26. > :16:33.the economy? We're told this recession could go on for what,

:16:33. > :16:37.eight years more? It's an awful prospect visited on us by the

:16:37. > :16:43.choices that this Government made very shortly after they were

:16:43. > :16:47.elected. But the reason that Ed Miliband's personal standing has

:16:47. > :16:52.increased so substantially is that he's sort of been ahead of the

:16:52. > :16:57.argument, certainly ahead of David Cameron and George Osborne on the

:16:57. > :17:01.behaviour of business, on the need for tougher control in relation to

:17:01. > :17:07.the banks. Very much speaking on behalf of the public. But a loft

:17:07. > :17:11.public would say these were rules over the banking system that were

:17:12. > :17:17.set by Labour. And the overhang of debt was piled up by Labour and

:17:17. > :17:25.it's no good just walking away and saying it's all these guys' fault.

:17:25. > :17:29.They haven't been in four for -- power for very long. You were.

:17:29. > :17:34.are quite clear that given the benefit of hindsight that the banks

:17:34. > :17:39.were underregulated, but remember, they were underregulated at a time

:17:39. > :17:45.when the now Government were calling on us to deregulate further.

:17:45. > :17:50.Let's move on. Next story, Tom, where are we going next? We are

:17:50. > :17:54.obviously Syria to deal with, can I make one observation about British

:17:54. > :17:59.politics and how it plays out in America. We have the flip going on.

:17:59. > :18:03.We have a Democrat in power saying I inherited this mess, as you say

:18:03. > :18:08.here, Cameron will say, Labour was there first. We have a Democrat who

:18:08. > :18:14.will say the Republicans did it. The bottom line is we're all in it.

:18:14. > :18:18.Everybody was having too much debt, we were not paying enough attention

:18:18. > :18:21.to the changing nature and the warp speed with which it happens in the

:18:21. > :18:24.global economy. In America, at least, I'm not sure what it's like

:18:25. > :18:29.here in the rank and file, there's a feeling in the public that the

:18:29. > :18:39.economy has become bait and switch. First quarter looks like it's

:18:39. > :18:42.

:18:42. > :18:49.getting better. Then suddenly it gets worse. Greece gets the flu.

:18:49. > :18:55.have Mitt Romney in London as well as mairbl at the same time, so a

:18:55. > :18:59.bit of -- Michelle Obama, at the same time as the Olympics. There's

:18:59. > :19:04.a vigorous debate about his cam rain -- campaign whether he should

:19:04. > :19:08.leave the country and make stops in Europe and the Middle East. One of

:19:08. > :19:12.his conspicuous successes as an executive was when he took over the

:19:12. > :19:16.Salt Lake City Games and got them back on even keel. They were an

:19:17. > :19:21.enormous success. They were successfully economically, but also

:19:21. > :19:26.it was not too long after 9/11 and the country felt a lot better about

:19:26. > :19:31.itself after what happened. should be talking about Syria I

:19:31. > :19:36.guess today, where again awful stories, it seems the regime is

:19:36. > :19:42.starting to crumble a bit, Tessa, yet, a lot of worry reflected in

:19:42. > :19:50.the papers too. I've noticed about what's going to come next. Exactly.

:19:51. > :19:56.I think that the important thing here is that the UN continues to be

:19:56. > :20:01.assertive in seeking an international coalition that will

:20:01. > :20:05.eventually force Assad from office. What's the feeling in the States

:20:05. > :20:08.about this? Certainly here, there's a kind of horror at what's

:20:08. > :20:13.happening, yet, mixed with an incomprehension about what we

:20:13. > :20:16.should do about it? Without Russia as a partner it's very hard to

:20:16. > :20:21.bring that under control. Exactly. People have to understand that. You

:20:21. > :20:27.couldn't have the same coalition we had for example in Libya, as an

:20:27. > :20:31.overview of it, if you will. The Middle East is in a transition, the

:20:31. > :20:35.likes of which we have not seen in our lifetime. This is another piece

:20:35. > :20:39.of it. We don't know where it ends up, as the Muslim Brotherhood takes

:20:39. > :20:45.hold in seer ya. It's a complex society with a lot more tribes than

:20:45. > :20:48.the other places have. They'll be battling for control. It may be

:20:48. > :20:52.Balkanised before it's all offer. Tribes will control various parts

:20:52. > :20:57.of it. You have a story there about Romney coming into town. He has

:20:57. > :21:00.decided to come into town. We'll see a lot of him. Interesting to

:21:00. > :21:05.see how the ambassador deals with having these two big players in

:21:05. > :21:13.town at the same time. We know the ambassador a bit. If anyone can do

:21:13. > :21:18.that David Cameron... He's a man up to it. -- If anyone can do that...

:21:18. > :21:24.He's a man who is up to it. There are two linked stories that Vince

:21:24. > :21:30.Cable is at the centre of. The first is the attack by business

:21:31. > :21:36.leaders on the coalition for short- termism, over buer rock ra tiesing.

:21:36. > :21:41.And this gap between the rhetoric they use and the impact on

:21:41. > :21:46.businesses being able to borrow in order to grow. And old Vince Cable

:21:46. > :21:51.thinking that his opportunity might be coming, he may be 69, enough

:21:51. > :21:59.youth. I think Vince hailing the end of the woreship of youth, let's

:21:59. > :22:04.see. I think that Vince has had a tough ride during the coalition.

:22:04. > :22:09.He's a man that I think... He has a glint in his eye I think. He has a

:22:09. > :22:13.glint in his eye, and why not? you've got a story about the

:22:13. > :22:17.Olympics. We have to talk about that before we finish, about the

:22:17. > :22:20.Amazonian guards. I've been spending a lot of time in your

:22:20. > :22:27.country in the last year preparing for the Olympics and doing first,

:22:28. > :22:35.we're doing a 40 minute documentary called their finest hour about what

:22:35. > :22:41.happened in 40 and 41. There were no more difficult times in the

:22:41. > :22:44.twenty century than 40 and 41. We are doing a profile with the SAS.

:22:44. > :22:49.What we think their role in terms of being on guard against terrorism

:22:49. > :22:54.and it's developed recently that they have a secret army of amzons,

:22:54. > :22:57.more women are in Special Forces now. They can play a unique role

:22:57. > :23:01.inlet vigilance that is going to be required. They have been more

:23:01. > :23:05.active than I realise in other parts of the world with the Special

:23:05. > :23:10.Forces. We're very big on special forces in modern warfare in our

:23:10. > :23:14.country and almost all of our leading commanders say the British

:23:14. > :23:19.were there first, we work together with them very well, there is

:23:19. > :23:25.admiration of SAS in our country. We must talk about the Olympics as

:23:25. > :23:30.well. Because you remember vividly the day that you were in Government

:23:30. > :23:35.and Sir Humphrey came along and said here is the Olympics. Don't

:23:35. > :23:42.bid for it. Five days from the opening ceremony, I remember, I

:23:42. > :23:47.think August 2, 2002, being given a submission by my officials which

:23:47. > :23:51.coned by saying "Secretary of State we recommend you write to the Prime

:23:51. > :23:57.Minister advising against a bid for the 20 12stkpwaems." You're feeling

:23:57. > :24:00.pretty good just now? Just so optimistic about Team GB, the

:24:00. > :24:04.transformation of East London and the spirit of the British people.

:24:04. > :24:08.don't normally read out editorials. The independent on Sunday says

:24:08. > :24:11."This paper predicted that the Olympic Games would be a great

:24:11. > :24:15.festival of pre-emptive whingeing, followed by people having a

:24:15. > :24:20.surprisingly good time, do you agree? I think it's the media

:24:20. > :24:25.that's been doing the Gold Medal job on whingeing. If you look at

:24:25. > :24:29.how the torch relay has been received, 25,000 schools focused on

:24:30. > :24:33.the Olympics, I think the British people are right with the Olympics.

:24:33. > :24:39.Tom Brokaw, Tessa Jowell, thank you very much for that.

:24:39. > :24:42.Weather now, a sodden summer may be turning into a bewildering summer.

:24:42. > :24:45.And bewildering is good. That allows the possibility of heat and

:24:45. > :24:53.sun. Perhaps it won't rain on the sun. Perhaps it won't rain on the

:24:53. > :24:57.athletes' parade. There's been a lot of whingeing about the British

:24:57. > :25:00.weather thus far this spring and summer. I'm in a privileged

:25:00. > :25:04.position to stand before you this morning with that sort of message

:25:04. > :25:08.behind me. Warm sun for a good many parts of the British Isles. It's

:25:08. > :25:10.there for you to see. It's a bit of a different story to move that bit

:25:10. > :25:20.further north into the northern and western parts of Scotland, an

:25:20. > :25:21.

:25:21. > :25:24.active weather front here. Gusty winds, 40 to 45mph there.

:25:24. > :25:28.In the borders and Northern Ireland sunshine even here lifting

:25:28. > :25:36.temperatures into the 20s. Widely across England and Wales it's

:25:36. > :25:40.pretty much sunshine all the way. Topping out around the low to mid-

:25:40. > :25:43.20s. This warge front making slow progress through the night and on

:25:43. > :25:46.into Monday. It will be a wet day for much of Northern Ireland,

:25:46. > :25:50.south-western Scotland, the North West of England. Something drier to

:25:50. > :25:53.the north of that and again, more in the way of sunshine coming

:25:53. > :25:57.through across a good part of England and Wales. The temperatures

:25:57. > :26:01.really responding. If you thought that was pretty high, we may be

:26:01. > :26:05.moving into unknown territory for this year, at least, down across

:26:05. > :26:07.central, southern parts, through the south-east, 30 degrees could be

:26:07. > :26:10.the south-east, 30 degrees could be yours.

:26:10. > :26:14.That sounds pretty good. As we heard in the news, the United

:26:14. > :26:18.States is still reeling from that awful shooting in Colorado that

:26:18. > :26:23.killed 12 people in the movie studio and wounded dozens more.

:26:23. > :26:27.It's emerged that the gunman, James Holmes bought 6,000 rounds of

:26:27. > :26:33.ammunition over the internet, which highlights America's relaxed gun

:26:33. > :26:38.laws. Why are these weapons so freely available. Joining me now is

:26:38. > :26:43.the American ambassador in London, Louis Susman. Welcome. Good morning

:26:43. > :26:47.Andrew. Let's start talking about this awful event. America's gun

:26:47. > :26:51.laws are famous around the world for being more relaxed than almost

:26:51. > :26:54.anybody else. Do you think this is the moment when that starts to re-

:26:54. > :27:01.enter the political debate? It's been hard for American politicians

:27:01. > :27:07.to talk about. I think, first and foremost, we have to send our

:27:07. > :27:11.condolences to the families and this tragedy, President Obama has

:27:11. > :27:16.ordered all American flags in government buildings to be flown at

:27:16. > :27:21.half-mast. It's a terrible tragedy. I think the second issue that we

:27:21. > :27:25.have to face is the fact that obviously this was a deranged

:27:25. > :27:32.person. He had no history of problems, but obviously, he had a

:27:33. > :27:38.lot of problems. Now, interinject that with his ability to go and buy

:27:38. > :27:41.four guns, legally, at a gun store in America and be able to go and

:27:41. > :27:49.buy 6,000 rounds, as you say, of ammunition on the internet, what

:27:49. > :27:54.does that tell you? It tells you that our system, OK, of the

:27:54. > :27:59.availability of ammunition and guns could be improved. We have a very

:27:59. > :28:06.strong lobby that supports very strongly the Second Amendment, the

:28:06. > :28:10.right to bear arms. We agree there's a right to bear arms, but

:28:10. > :28:15.appropriate arms. No-one needs an AK-47, for example. Will it rise in

:28:15. > :28:20.this election year? I'm not sure. Will it continue to be an objective

:28:20. > :28:26.of President Obama to strengthen the laws, especially on the

:28:26. > :28:31.internet? For sure. What about the sheer level of violence in films

:28:31. > :28:35.and television shows and all the rest. It seems to be going on and

:28:35. > :28:41.we're constantly told that's got no relationship to how people behave

:28:41. > :28:44.in the real world. Yet you have to ask yourself about whether there

:28:45. > :28:50.may be some connection. First place, this is a global issue. This isn't

:28:50. > :28:57.just an American issue. Absolutely. But, you know, Batman, who came

:28:57. > :29:00.from comic books in my era, I'm sure when we looked at it, Batman

:29:00. > :29:06.wasn't the most violent thing you've ever seen in television and

:29:06. > :29:11.movies. People walking around blowing everything up, enormous

:29:11. > :29:15.weaponry etc has to have an effect. On the same token, we have free

:29:15. > :29:21.speech. There's a balance between what you can do. I think that

:29:21. > :29:26.there's no question that it's had an effect. In the few days ahead,

:29:26. > :29:29.as the ambassador, you have the Republican contender Mitt Romney in

:29:29. > :29:34.town meeting all sorts of political leaders and going to the Olympics

:29:34. > :29:39.because he was the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics organiser. And

:29:39. > :29:44.you've got Michelle Obama, do you have a slight dance of who you're

:29:44. > :29:50.having where? Is it awkward? Do you have to avoid meeting up? It isn't

:29:50. > :29:53.awkward at all. First and foremost we are thrilled that the First Lady

:29:53. > :29:57.is leading our delegation. She is immensely popular here in London,

:29:57. > :30:01.as you know. She and Queen has become quite close and good friends.

:30:01. > :30:10.She will be a fantastic representative for us all through

:30:10. > :30:16.the Olympics. Governor Romney, former head, I believe his wife has

:30:16. > :30:19.a horse in the equestrian part of it. I'm thrilled he's coming. It's

:30:19. > :30:23.delightful and important that all Americans come and enjoy this great

:30:23. > :30:28.event. You don't have to keep them apart or anything? No. Talking

:30:28. > :30:33.about the American presidential race, it's clear that the money

:30:33. > :30:37.question is big again. Now last time round, Obama working with

:30:37. > :30:41.people like yourself, slightly changed the rules and raised a huge

:30:41. > :30:51.amount of money. Now Mitt Romney seems to be outspending him. Is

:30:51. > :30:52.

:30:52. > :31:01.this a financial arms race that And think he is proud raising them

:31:01. > :31:06.at the moment. The Supreme Court issued a case that has allowed

:31:06. > :31:14.these super parks for people to give unlimited amount of money not

:31:14. > :31:18.disclosing who they are, and spend it as long as they are not in co-

:31:18. > :31:24.ordination with the candidate. That has never happened before and it

:31:24. > :31:30.has opened a Pandora's box of fund- raising, so the more wealthy

:31:30. > :31:37.individuals can affect the election. That has been the difference. In

:31:37. > :31:43.terms of traditional fund-raising, the President has raised more at

:31:43. > :31:48.this point. The other issue is Syria - do you think America has a

:31:48. > :31:53.sense of frustrated impotence about being held back, or do you think

:31:53. > :32:00.the fear about what might follow President Bashar al-Assad is

:32:00. > :32:04.raining in the West? I don't think fear is a factor at this point,

:32:04. > :32:10.better the devil you know than you don't know, but we you'll feel,

:32:10. > :32:17.every country, with the exception of Russia and China, feel that what

:32:17. > :32:22.is going on in Syria is a horrible situation. It is obviously a civil

:32:22. > :32:27.war. While I don't think there is any appetite in my country at this

:32:27. > :32:34.moment for military intervention, I think non-lethal aid is being given

:32:34. > :32:39.and we are being as supportive as we can. Frankly, both President

:32:39. > :32:45.Obama and secretary of state Clinton have said that he must go.

:32:45. > :32:50.Thank you for joining us. Two great names and classical music

:32:50. > :32:54.coincide this week at the Proms, where Daniel Barenboim is

:32:54. > :32:59.conducting or Beethoven's symphonies. Daniel Barenboim has

:32:59. > :33:04.lived most of his life in the public glare as a child prodigy at

:33:04. > :33:10.the piano, husband of the British cellist Jacqueline du Pre, and more

:33:10. > :33:15.recently as a campaigner for peace in the Middle East. He is appearing

:33:15. > :33:22.with the orchestra which he founded to bring Israeli and Arab musicians

:33:22. > :33:32.together, and here they are performing at the Royal Albert Hall

:33:32. > :33:52.

:33:52. > :34:02.Daniel Barenboim is with me. Welcome. Thank you. After hearing

:34:02. > :34:03.

:34:04. > :34:13.that, I must ask you to start with... We have heard nobody is

:34:14. > :34:15.

:34:15. > :34:22.harder to conduct than Beethoven - would you agree with that? Yes and

:34:22. > :34:29.No. Beethoven is everything, it is dramatic, lyrical, epic. The only

:34:29. > :34:36.one thing he is not, and that is superficial. Therefore, when you

:34:36. > :34:46.have to deal permanently and exclusively with dissensions, it is

:34:46. > :34:53.

:34:53. > :34:59.challenging. -- ascension. Music is in a way parallel to our lives.

:34:59. > :35:03.There is so much in the Beethoven's symphonic cycle that is very

:35:03. > :35:11.familiar to everyone, whether written is the Choral Symphony, and

:35:11. > :35:16.so on, so is there are special task in cleaning it and refreshing it

:35:16. > :35:22.because it is so familiar to people? Familiarity does not

:35:22. > :35:26.necessarily have to breed contempt. Familiarity in music can be a very

:35:26. > :35:33.positive element. When you are familiar with something, and we

:35:33. > :35:39.notice it at these concert at the Proms, we play symphonies by

:35:39. > :35:45.Beethoven with other lesser known symphonies in between. By playing

:35:45. > :35:54.them with music that is familiar, these works themselves become much

:35:54. > :36:00.more accessible. You are recording a Beethoven piano concerto, and

:36:00. > :36:04.much more - it is a big project you have on - from the First Symphony,

:36:05. > :36:10.you are listening to something that sounds completely different from

:36:10. > :36:14.anything that has been written before. It is different from Mozart,

:36:14. > :36:19.and the second symphony is even more different and so on. In all of

:36:19. > :36:26.this work, do you feel you have penetrated the mystery of what

:36:26. > :36:30.happened? Why it suddenly sounds so different? I don't know if I have

:36:30. > :36:35.penetrated the mystery, but I am more and more aware of the fact

:36:36. > :36:42.that Beethoven was one of those composers who looked for or felt

:36:42. > :36:49.the need to find a new idiom for every symphony. You can't say the

:36:49. > :36:57.same for the piano sonatas, but in the symphonies were there is only

:36:57. > :37:01.nine, there are nine definitely different idioms. The people who

:37:01. > :37:05.only know the fifth, for instance, and here the pastoral for the first

:37:05. > :37:10.time must think it is by a different composer, it is so

:37:10. > :37:15.totally different. Let's talk a little bit about the orchestra,

:37:15. > :37:18.because people are trying to imagine one day a community in

:37:18. > :37:23.which Israelis and Palestinians can live together and communicate well

:37:24. > :37:29.together, possibly the nearest thing may have won the pilot at the

:37:29. > :37:35.moment is your orchestra. Of course, but in the orchestra you have what

:37:35. > :37:45.you don't have on the ground and that is complete equality. When

:37:45. > :37:46.

:37:46. > :37:49.there is an oboe solo, and that is played by the Israeli, the

:37:49. > :37:55.Palestinian musicians wish him well, and that does not happen on the

:37:55. > :38:00.ground. That is the main difference. The orchestra can do a lot. It is

:38:00. > :38:06.very flattering that it is so often mentioned as an orchestra for peace,

:38:07. > :38:13.but of course it isn't. Do you feel pretty despairing at the moment? It

:38:13. > :38:18.must be hard to keep your optimism or about the political situation.

:38:18. > :38:22.am completely... I wouldn't say pessimistic. I am a realist and I

:38:22. > :38:26.realised it is going nowhere because the solutions are out of

:38:26. > :38:34.the realm of possibility, but the world has always gone on and then

:38:34. > :38:38.at least has the capacity to turn 180 degrees in 24 hours, and that

:38:38. > :38:43.is my optimism. For a great privilege to have you on the show.

:38:43. > :38:48.He is a man who, I think it's fair to say, enjoys being in the

:38:48. > :38:52.spotlight, and as mayor of the Olympic host city there is a lot of

:38:52. > :39:02.spotlight. Boris Johnson has been telling critics of the Olympic

:39:02. > :39:08.

:39:08. > :39:17.Games to put a sock in it, also criticising with wisecracks. Boris

:39:17. > :39:24.Johnson is with me. Welcome. Good morning. Do you think people

:39:24. > :39:30.whingeing about the Olympics or asking questions are being

:39:30. > :39:34.unpatriotic? Of course not. It is the duty of the media to shine and

:39:34. > :39:43.inconvenience spotlight on whatever they find in order to hold people

:39:43. > :39:47.like me to account and make sure we do a good job. If you look at what

:39:47. > :39:51.the head of the Olympic Committee had to say last night, he said he

:39:52. > :39:55.thinks our city is as well prepared as any city has been in the history

:39:55. > :40:01.of the Olympic Games and that is a great tribute to the work of LOCOG

:40:01. > :40:07.and anyone who has been involved in this for many years. There are two

:40:07. > :40:12.areas that must be concerning you - one will be the transport system

:40:12. > :40:16.and the other will be security. There have been stories today about

:40:16. > :40:20.traffic lights being phased so people can't get into London, and a

:40:20. > :40:26.lot of people will be wondering if the trains are working, if there

:40:26. > :40:30.will be enough room on the tube. What is your message? So far the

:40:30. > :40:35.traffic system and the transport networks are holding up well. Touch

:40:35. > :40:40.wood, you can never count your chickens, but it is looking OK at

:40:41. > :40:46.the moment. Possibly what we are going through at the moment as a

:40:46. > :40:51.nation is that necessary moment of psychological self- depression

:40:51. > :40:56.before the excitement begins on Friday when the curtain goes up. It

:40:56. > :41:00.is only natural that people should be tense, expectant, and of course

:41:00. > :41:10.there are loads of things we need to get right but today you have the

:41:10. > :41:11.

:41:11. > :41:17.torch going through London again and yesterday we had record crowds

:41:18. > :41:23.watching the torch going through parts of London. It is a fantastic

:41:23. > :41:33.day for the improving national gathering excitement about the

:41:33. > :41:34.

:41:34. > :41:38.games. Going Wordsworth on us. Let's talk about the threat of some

:41:38. > :41:44.of the immigration officials who say they will walkout on strike in

:41:44. > :41:50.the middle of this. That presumably gets you hot under the collar?

:41:50. > :41:55.don't think that whatever they do it will disrupt the Olympics or our

:41:55. > :42:03.preparations, or ability to get people through safely on time to

:42:03. > :42:08.the venues. Secondly, if you look at the numbers who voted to go on

:42:08. > :42:12.strike, it is a very badly supported strike and I don't think

:42:12. > :42:17.people will want to lower down the Olympics. The overwhelming majority

:42:17. > :42:21.of people working on the borders Agency will want to get behind the

:42:21. > :42:26.Olympic Games and come to work. lot of people are desperately

:42:26. > :42:31.hoping that out of these Olympic Games, Britain gets some kind of

:42:31. > :42:38.economic lift, and yet quite a lot of the analysts say it will be more

:42:38. > :42:48.like a blip. What are you doing to make sure the Olympic Games

:42:48. > :42:54.leverage extra profit for British companies? The ice is a gigantic --

:42:54. > :42:59.this will be all about schmoozing, and we will be showing what London

:42:59. > :43:08.has to offer, making it clear there are fantastic opportunities for

:43:08. > :43:11.investment. At Battersea, in the Royal Docks, in Brent Cross,

:43:11. > :43:16.Tottenham, there are many opportunities and we will be

:43:16. > :43:21.selling London, but don't forget the Olympic Games have already been

:43:21. > :43:25.responsible for fantastic investment in this city. Pension

:43:25. > :43:29.funds across the world are investing in the Olympic site. We

:43:29. > :43:33.have a massive investment in the form of the Westfield shopping

:43:33. > :43:39.centre, to say nothing of the transport investment that is going

:43:39. > :43:45.in now and transforming London so I defy the critics of the Olympics to

:43:45. > :43:49.say this is not producing economic benefits. We can make sure they

:43:49. > :43:55.continue to deliver long-term returns. Her damaging is it when

:43:55. > :44:01.you see stories that the terrible shambles that G4S has managed to

:44:01. > :44:06.achieve. There is another story about a minister's daughter,

:44:06. > :44:12.outrageous bending of the rules and so on, and these people will be in

:44:12. > :44:16.charge of security of the Olympics. I saw that, and of course LOCOG

:44:16. > :44:25.will be looking into whatever happened there, but the key thing

:44:25. > :44:30.at the moment is that the venues are safe and that G4S staff, which

:44:30. > :44:34.we should distinguish away from the bosses, the staff on the ground at

:44:34. > :44:38.the venues are doing a fantastic job, working very well now with the

:44:38. > :44:43.military. If you go round the venues and look at what is

:44:43. > :44:46.happening, it is working very well and it looks great. The you have

:44:47. > :44:51.been a great supporter of the British banking system, which has

:44:51. > :44:57.been under such a lot of pressure. How worried are you at the moment

:44:57. > :45:02.by the way that New York and other financial centres are saying London

:45:02. > :45:10.is a problem, it is no longer the financial centre of good law and

:45:10. > :45:15.good behaviour? People are trying to look set London's applecart.

:45:15. > :45:19.my message is give me a break. Of course they are, and it has being

:45:19. > :45:26.going on for hundreds of years. We have international competitors who

:45:26. > :45:36.would love to will knock London off its perch. But don't forget, for

:45:36. > :45:37.

:45:37. > :45:41.all its troubles, London remains the financial centre on earth. The

:45:41. > :45:45.sub-prime prices... My message to Americans is that the sub-prime

:45:45. > :45:49.prices Friday began in the United States. You know that quite a lot

:45:49. > :45:53.of the individual banking problems did come from people working in

:45:53. > :45:57.London and that the perception that London has not been well regulated

:45:57. > :46:01.is a pretty well founded one soma question is really what the

:46:01. > :46:11.politicians now need to do to make sure London's financial reputation

:46:11. > :46:15.Well, the most important thing is for the economy to get back to

:46:15. > :46:18.growth and for confidence to return. I don't think we want to go through

:46:18. > :46:22.an endless orgy of stable door banging and excessive regulation on

:46:22. > :46:27.the financial services sector, which is actually one of the few

:46:27. > :46:32.sectors in the economy showing signs of growth and putting on jobs.

:46:32. > :46:36.London will remain as long as we have a system of global capitalism

:46:36. > :46:39.and frankly, in spite of all the agonising in the last four years,

:46:39. > :46:44.we haven't found an alternative, London will remain the best place

:46:44. > :46:52.in which to set up your international headquarters, to

:46:52. > :46:56.raise capital - But the rules have to be strengthened, don't they?

:46:56. > :47:02.depends which rules you're talking about, Andrew. What I certainly

:47:02. > :47:07.don't think you should do is try to address people's general economic

:47:07. > :47:12.malaise and anxiety by overregulating one sector and

:47:12. > :47:15.causes gloom in financial services. What you want to see is banks

:47:15. > :47:20.having the confidence and the courage once again to lend to

:47:20. > :47:23.businesses. They can't do that at the same time as they're being told

:47:23. > :47:28.endlessly to be cautious and to rebuild their balance sheets. We

:47:28. > :47:32.need to see business being given the loan that's they need. Let's

:47:32. > :47:38.extend this from the banking sector to the economy generally. We have,

:47:38. > :47:45.it seems we have a third successive quarter of recession and talk of

:47:45. > :47:48.eight years ahead of economic bleakness and grimness. What is the

:47:48. > :47:57.Boris Johnson answer to getting the economy moving, because everyone is

:47:57. > :48:05.looking for one? Well, don't forget, we had quite good job figures the

:48:05. > :48:09.other day. And what they showed actually, particularly in London,

:48:09. > :48:14.there employment is growing. The answer is to stimulate confidence,

:48:14. > :48:20.make sure that businesses have the loans that they need. How should

:48:21. > :48:24.that be done? To get young people into work through a very, very

:48:24. > :48:29.widespread apprenticeship scheme. What I worry about is that people

:48:29. > :48:34.are losing confidence, losing energy, losing enthusiasm and there

:48:34. > :48:37.will be, there's a real opportunity to get them into work. Do you think

:48:37. > :48:40.there needs to be a further stimulus, a further economic

:48:40. > :48:44.stimulus with all the money that the Bank of England was handing

:48:44. > :48:50.over to the banks has not been handed over to businesses across

:48:50. > :48:56.Britain to allow them to invest and employ people? Sure, I mean,

:48:56. > :49:00.generally, what the country needs in my view, is we need the eurozone

:49:00. > :49:05.crisis to come to an end. As I've said repeatedly, so far my words

:49:05. > :49:10.are falling on deaf ears in Brussels. That boil has got to be

:49:10. > :49:14.lanced. You've got to bring that nightmare to an end one way or

:49:14. > :49:21.north, better an end with horror than a horror without end. I think

:49:21. > :49:25.there should be a bisection of the euro. I don't foresee a long-term

:49:26. > :49:29.solution until you deal the uncompetitiveness in that part of

:49:29. > :49:32.the eurozone. Those are things that British politicians can't do much

:49:32. > :49:36.about. Assuming that won't happen, we have to face the grim reality

:49:36. > :49:40.that they're determined to go on with the euro nightmare, that we're

:49:41. > :49:44.not going to succeed in persuading them to abandon that project,

:49:44. > :49:50.assuming they don't, assuming the confidence remains low in the rest

:49:50. > :49:53.of Europe, I think here in Britain we need to drive ahead with

:49:53. > :49:57.infrastructure schemes of the kind that George Osborne is rightly

:49:57. > :50:02.championing and you know what I think, I think that London is the

:50:02. > :50:06.motor of the UK economy. I think a pound invested in London will

:50:06. > :50:13.deliver more for the economy as a whole than a pound invested

:50:13. > :50:16.virtually anywhere else. That's why I think it crucial we get on

:50:16. > :50:21.solving problems such as aviation, the long-term competitiveness of

:50:21. > :50:25.the UK is going to be dependent on having a far sighted approach it

:50:25. > :50:30.aviation capacity. A more aggressive... A new hub airport.

:50:30. > :50:34.more aggressive plan for growth is what you're really saying, isn't

:50:34. > :50:37.it? Because the alternative is eight years of this. You're putting

:50:38. > :50:43.words into my mouth. I think that George Osborne and the coalition

:50:43. > :50:47.are embarked on the right, I'd like to see a bit more supply-side stuff.

:50:47. > :50:53.More could be done. I'm sure that the Government would love to do it,

:50:53. > :50:58.to get on with allowing businesses to take on staff more easily. But I

:50:58. > :51:02.would like to see, no doubt about, it I would like to see a very

:51:02. > :51:05.aggressive campaign for more infrastructure. It can be readily

:51:05. > :51:09.financed, as we've seen with the Olympic investments. There are

:51:09. > :51:14.funds out there, sovereign wealth funds around the world who are only

:51:14. > :51:18.too happy to come and invest in this country. They see it as a

:51:18. > :51:24.fantastic long-term bet. And what it needs is the political will to

:51:24. > :51:28.get on and do those projects. there a danger in overdoing the

:51:28. > :51:34.gloom, therefore and saying this could go on for many, many years to

:51:34. > :51:38.come? Yes, of course. There's a danger of overdoing the gloom. I'm

:51:38. > :51:43.not going to accuse the BBC of being gloomy. I was thinking of

:51:43. > :51:47.David Cameron who was talking about this going on for another eight

:51:47. > :51:52.years. Well, I don't think there's any reason at all why it should go

:51:52. > :51:57.on for another eight years. If we can, you know, look Bradley Wiggins

:51:57. > :52:07.is about to win the Tour De France, how about that. How can anybody in

:52:07. > :52:09.

:52:09. > :52:14.this country... I think that's a very bold non-seqete re-. Thank you

:52:14. > :52:18.for joining us this morning. Not at all. Now the news headline.

:52:18. > :52:24.Thank you. The Mayor of London has said the UK is as well prepared for

:52:24. > :52:30.the Olympics as any country in the history of the Games. Boarery

:52:30. > :52:34.Johnson told this programme there were bound to be pre-curtain up

:52:34. > :52:37.nerves. He said the possible strike at Heathrow would not cause serious

:52:37. > :52:41.disruption. He insisted that the Olympic venues would be safe and

:52:41. > :52:45.secure, despite continuing worries about the security company G4S.

:52:45. > :52:50.Bradley Wiggins looks set to secure a place among Britain's sporting

:52:50. > :52:55.greats today by becoming the first British winner of the Tour De

:52:55. > :52:57.France in its 109-year history. Only an accident can prevent

:52:57. > :53:01.Wiggins clinching the title this afternoon. He's more than three

:53:01. > :53:03.minutes ahead of his nearest rival and there's a tradition that the

:53:03. > :53:07.race leader isn't challenged on the final day.

:53:07. > :53:11.Good luck to him. That's all from me, for now. The next news on BBC

:53:11. > :53:16.One is at midday. Back to Andrew in a moment. Let's look at what's

:53:16. > :53:20.coming up after this show. Today on Sunday Morning Live, with

:53:20. > :53:25.over 100,000 failing families in England, should we take children

:53:25. > :53:29.away from more of them? The Government gave the go ahead for

:53:29. > :53:33.three free schools run by creationists, should they? And has

:53:33. > :53:42.the Olympics lost its soul? See you at 10pm.

:53:42. > :53:48.Many thanks. Now when no lesser a composer than Burt Bacharact writes

:53:48. > :53:51.songs for you, you have arrived. Seasons of my soul established

:53:51. > :53:58.Rumer worldwide. But she's turned to the 70s again, show casing a

:53:58. > :54:03.voice that many likened to a legend of that ear ya, Karen Carpenter.

:54:03. > :54:08.That's nice to hear. You've chosen to go back to a part of popular

:54:08. > :54:12.music history that many people will have forgotten about, which is the

:54:12. > :54:16.early 1970s, singer song writers, a lot of them blokes with hair about

:54:16. > :54:21.the same length as yours is now and floral shirts and so on. What was

:54:21. > :54:26.the attraction of that era? It was a rich musical time. The era of the

:54:26. > :54:30.singer song writer, so there was so much music to discover. They're all

:54:30. > :54:34.men actually. All the songs are written by men. Was that an

:54:34. > :54:39.important part of your education? Because you have been all offer the

:54:39. > :54:43.place in terms of the kind of music that you seem to have enjoyed.

:54:43. > :54:49.wanted to narrow my study and go in deep and sometimes when you have to

:54:49. > :54:54.go in deep you have to narrow what you're studying. I wanted to look

:54:54. > :54:58.at male emotion and have a landscape of that. What are some of

:54:58. > :55:08.the names that people, you would advise people to go back to and

:55:08. > :55:12.

:55:12. > :55:16.listen again? Vansant is amazing. Jimmy Webb. There's a lot of others.

:55:17. > :55:21.You have nice early Neil Young I notice. Yeah. Just so many. I have

:55:21. > :55:26.all the album covers on my CD, so people can chase them up. You are a

:55:26. > :55:31.singer song writer, are you recording as well? Yes, I am. I'm

:55:31. > :55:36.just domoing my new album ideas. That's quite exciting. What about,

:55:36. > :55:41.because I think I can reveal your name isn't really Rumer. Where did

:55:41. > :55:49.that come from, it's a microphone name, I guess. It's interesting

:55:49. > :55:54.because my mother was a fan of Rumer Goden the writer. She died

:55:54. > :55:58.and she left me books to read about India and I lost the list. All I

:55:58. > :56:04.could remember was Rumer. thought that's a good name. When I

:56:04. > :56:10.found the list... You are singing for us, what? Bob Marley, soul

:56:10. > :56:13.rebel. That is almost it this week. We're off on our summer break until

:56:13. > :56:17.September, when we're back with our first show of the Autumn run. It

:56:17. > :56:21.will look slightly different. Only slightly, because the essential

:56:21. > :56:31.ingredients will be the same. Now for this morning, we leave you with

:56:31. > :56:41.

:56:42. > :56:51.the voice of Rumer and bob Marley's # I'm a rebel, soul rebel,

:56:52. > :57:04.

:57:04. > :57:13.# I'm a capturer, soul adventurer. # See the morning sun,

:57:13. > :57:18.# On the hillside # If you're not living right,

:57:18. > :57:28.# I beg ya travel wide. # Said I'm a, said I'm a,

:57:28. > :57:29.

:57:29. > :57:34.# Said I'm a living man # I got work to do

:57:34. > :57:44.# If you're not happy, # Then you must be blue

:57:44. > :57:44.

:57:44. > :57:52.# Must be blue, # I'm a rebel,

:57:52. > :57:59.# Let them talk. # Soul rebel, # Talk won't bother me. # I'm a

:57:59. > :58:05.capturer, # Did you hear what they said? #

:58:05. > :58:15.Soul adventurer, # Night and day, night and day

:58:15. > :58:20.

:58:20. > :58:26.# See the morning sun, # On the hillside

:58:26. > :58:30.# If you're not living good, # I beg ya travel wide

:58:30. > :58:40.# Said I'm a, said I'm a, # Said I'm a living man

:58:40. > :58:41.