:00:39. > :00:46.Good morning, and welcome. As we all gear up for the party
:00:46. > :00:53.conferences, we're all enjoying the spectacle of a retiring, self-deep
:00:53. > :00:57.reKateing blonde talk stalking our Prime Minister, the poll votes
:00:57. > :01:03.Boris Johnson the most popular politician.
:01:03. > :01:09.Boris famously said there's nor chance of him being reincarated as
:01:09. > :01:19.an olive as being properly. The other day, I speared an olive, and
:01:19. > :01:20.
:01:20. > :01:25.I believe it said "my dear, who claim claim". And Europe editor of
:01:25. > :01:30.Time magazine, and columnist to Tony Blair. Fear of rebellion,
:01:30. > :01:34.stalked the conference season, warned the Observer today. Tory MPs
:01:34. > :01:40.are telling Cameron improve or you're out. It is tough being the
:01:40. > :01:46.leader of the Conservative Party, as this man knows, 20 years ago to
:01:46. > :01:50.Black Wednesday, John Major is here to talk about the eurozone, and
:01:50. > :01:55.classical era, we could get tips on him to keeping dissident at bay.
:01:55. > :02:00.Today is the last day at work, for the BBC's outgoing director again,
:02:00. > :02:05.after the cut in the funding, Mark Thompson agreed to and rouse over
:02:05. > :02:09.big salaries to top xex and gaffs, how does the DG assess the highs
:02:09. > :02:15.and lows of the past eight years, and what does he think of the
:02:16. > :02:22.fewture of television itself? We'll be asking the legendary, movie
:02:22. > :02:31.mogul, Harvey Weinstein, Pulp scam fiction, why on earth his project
:02:32. > :02:39.is a theatre production in Leicester. Plus, here, excellent
:02:39. > :02:43.music. You can see them in the middle, that's fresh from
:02:43. > :02:48.performing from the Paralympics and Africa express tour, we have the
:02:48. > :02:54.The Noisettes. First though, over to Ris for this morning's news
:02:54. > :02:59.headlines. Thank youed six NATO troops, two British have been
:02:59. > :03:03.killed by men wearing Afghan uniforms, the two members of the
:03:03. > :03:05.3rd Battlion The Yorkshire Regiment were shot at a checkpoint in the
:03:05. > :03:11.south of Nahr-e Saraj district in Helmand Province. Their families
:03:11. > :03:18.have been informed, in another incident, four NATO soliders were
:03:18. > :03:22.shot, near the border with Pakistan. The United States has ordered all
:03:22. > :03:25.non-essential staff and families to leave the embassies in Sudan and
:03:25. > :03:31.Tunisia. The decision is made because of violent protests, about
:03:31. > :03:35.a video, made in America, which offended Muslims around the world.
:03:35. > :03:39.The US ambassador to Libya was one of several people killed. One of
:03:39. > :03:43.the bosses of the Irish newspaper, which published topless photographs,
:03:43. > :03:49.says he will do what he can to shut down the paper. A third publication,
:03:49. > :03:56.says it will print the pictures. As the royal couple continue their
:03:56. > :04:00.tour, a third publication said it will print the pictures, an Italian
:04:00. > :04:04.magazine, is planning to publish the photos tomorrow. A promising
:04:04. > :04:08.young rugby player was among three men from the same family killed dem
:04:08. > :04:12.a farming accident in Hillsborough in Northern Ireland. 22-year-old,
:04:12. > :04:16.neveren Expense, died along withlies father and brother, after
:04:16. > :04:21.falling in a slurry tank. His sister is treated in hospital.
:04:21. > :04:24.Plans to reform school exams in England, will be revealed by the
:04:24. > :04:29.Government on Tuesday. The Education Secretary, Michael Gove
:04:29. > :04:33.and Deputy Prime Minister, Nick Clegg, will announce GCSEs will be
:04:33. > :04:38.scrapped. The replacement qualification will not be taught
:04:38. > :04:43.until 2015. That's all from me for now, I'll be back before 9.30.
:04:43. > :04:50.Thank you. Many thanks. Now to the front pages, as usual,
:04:50. > :04:54.lots and lots of coverage, still of those pictures, everybody in angry
:04:54. > :05:01.those pictures, everybody in angry mode. "Kate it is pure greed, says
:05:01. > :05:08.the Sun. The Sunday Mirror is in punitive form "jail them for
:05:08. > :05:14.hurting my Kate" it says. Lots more coverage of that ta as well.
:05:14. > :05:18.Photographs on virtually every paper. Mail on Sunday "at last
:05:18. > :05:21.dumbed down, exams are axed, ""saying O-levels are coming back,
:05:21. > :05:25.but not until after the next election, to Michael Gove's
:05:25. > :05:31.irritation, probably. Then you have the Sunday Telegraph
:05:31. > :05:39.here, another, Prince story, two Princes, saying Prince Harry was
:05:39. > :05:44.the target in the fatal Taliban attacks in Afghanistan. Sunday
:05:45. > :05:50.Times says there's more pictures, 200 pictures, of the Duchess, one
:05:50. > :05:55.of the Italian magazines says it has. Two stories, here, hilarious
:05:55. > :06:00.story, about Lord Hill,ed Education Minister, who tried to quit the
:06:00. > :06:04.Government, tried to resign, but David Cameron wasn't listening to
:06:05. > :06:10.him. Instead of accepting, he praiseed him for his hard work,
:06:10. > :06:17.told him to carry on and strode him out of the room. The man is in the
:06:17. > :06:23.office, and there are 100 adult cod left in the North Sea. Catherine
:06:23. > :06:29.and Phil thank you both for coming in. We will have to talk about the
:06:29. > :06:34.pictures, enormous row heating up? The two royal stories, you have the
:06:34. > :06:38.one hand, Kate being shot at by cameras, and Harry shot at by real
:06:38. > :06:44.things. It is remarkable the picture story
:06:44. > :06:49.is absolutely everywhere, and knocking the other one out in most
:06:49. > :06:54.cases. It is demonstrating, a very interesting thing about modern
:06:54. > :06:59.celebrity, on one hand, self- regulation has worked, that there
:06:59. > :07:04.is lots of coverage, but no pictures, in a country with a
:07:04. > :07:07.privacy law, they're everywhere. It remains to be seen. In the story in
:07:08. > :07:11.all the papers is the anger and legal action that will follow. It
:07:11. > :07:17.will be interesting test case, whether that has any impact at all.
:07:17. > :07:19.It suggests this is very much going back to Diana, and this is, Prince
:07:19. > :07:26.William's memories of what happened to his mother, that drives the
:07:26. > :07:30.determination to go to court and push ra push? That's right. And
:07:30. > :07:34.there's some high octane rhetoric coming out of St James's Palace, it
:07:34. > :07:39.is firing the story on. Because there's not a lot more happened in
:07:39. > :07:42.the story. Do you think it is all a bit much? I was going to say,
:07:42. > :07:46.there's an awful lot of anger around this morning, and I'm sorry
:07:46. > :07:52.around this morning, and I'm sorry to add to it, but this makes me
:07:52. > :07:57.cross That there is so much space, devoted to the stories, and that
:07:57. > :08:02.we're enenabling a phoney debate here. First of all, just on the
:08:02. > :08:12.point about space, to me the most important story in the world is the
:08:12. > :08:16.tax on US institutions, and but, in the wake of the film: YouTube film,
:08:16. > :08:22.made by a dodgy character who has now been arrested? Which, we will
:08:22. > :08:29.talk about. However, just before that, in terms of the debate we're
:08:29. > :08:38.now having, it is such a phoney outrage, the Sun's head line about
:08:38. > :08:44."greed". This is an strin of outrage about these pictures, these
:08:44. > :08:49.pictures, are a commodity. The debate the really important debate
:08:49. > :08:54.about press freedoms, the Leveson Inquiry has sought to look into,
:08:54. > :08:58.has sort of hijacked by this bizarre notion about what it's
:08:58. > :09:02.important to print and what isn't and where press freedoms lie and
:09:02. > :09:07.where they don't. You agree it was wrong to take the pictures, and
:09:07. > :09:13.wrong to publish them. But it is the level of obsession, and
:09:13. > :09:20.hysteria around the store, is that right? And people who would have
:09:20. > :09:24.otherwise glady published them, but post-Leveson world will now not do
:09:24. > :09:29.so. They're filling the photos in formulations rather than photos.
:09:29. > :09:33.Isn't that good, that one time they would have thought something and
:09:33. > :09:36.now they think another, haven't they got position from indefensible
:09:36. > :09:40.to one that is defensible. It is a position, that is possibly better
:09:41. > :09:46.than it was, it is not going to stop whoever took the photos were
:09:46. > :09:53.making a lot of money out of them. We have in some of the columnists,
:09:53. > :09:57.we have "hang on a minute, isn't this all a bit much" and Janet
:09:57. > :10:02.Porter is inching towards that. Then we move on to the story, the
:10:02. > :10:07.attacks around the world on US embassies. And not just in America,
:10:07. > :10:13.Germany and other embassies, in the West have been attacked too?
:10:13. > :10:16.have to get this, this is a story, in the Observer, about the arrest
:10:16. > :10:21.in the Observer, about the arrest of somebody who Probably made the
:10:21. > :10:25.movie. And who describes himself as a corporateic Christian. But you
:10:25. > :10:32.have to get right to the middle of the Observer and other papers, even
:10:32. > :10:36.to get any of this coverage at all today. It is, an interesting story,
:10:36. > :10:41.but one of the things that is interesting about the story, is the
:10:41. > :10:47.way in which of the different party to the Parliament have used it for
:10:47. > :10:53.their own end. So, what this tiny little film that would never have
:10:53. > :10:57.been noticed, has been seized upon by different extremes. The culture
:10:57. > :11:03.of complaint, people looking for something to be angry about,
:11:03. > :11:11.desperate to be angry. And this is particularly relevant, because this
:11:11. > :11:15.is also, 20 years after the fatwa? And Joseph an ton has written his
:11:15. > :11:18.memoirs, that was the name that Rushdie was given. He was written
:11:18. > :11:23.the recollections of that time and a lot more besides, it is a memoir
:11:23. > :11:28.of reflection on his life too. It is the same basic question, here is
:11:28. > :11:37.a work of art, critique of a religion, and extraordinary storm
:11:37. > :11:42.followed after it. And it divided people, which side were you on.
:11:42. > :11:47.This is fascinating reflection on that. I got a chance to interview
:11:47. > :11:51.him tomorrow, to start the week. What is interesting, is that I
:11:51. > :12:00.don't think he had any idea of what he was setting off when it started.
:12:00. > :12:06.If you ask the question, who won, who won the culture wars, there's
:12:06. > :12:13.that much self-Ken soreship, it is not clear who won. Let's turn to
:12:13. > :12:18.another American story, domestic politics. It looks like Obama is
:12:18. > :12:23.starting to be a leader? The last sets of polls, have shown a lead
:12:23. > :12:28.for Obama. But, one the things that was interesting, we've just gone
:12:28. > :12:33.through convention season in the States. And of course, Mitt did not
:12:33. > :12:38.get the bounce from the convention that Obama got. But the other thing
:12:38. > :12:41.of course, is that we're through it, and he is the, Mitt Romney has
:12:41. > :12:47.officially been declared the candidate, the perception is that
:12:47. > :12:53.he may be changing, and reverting back to who he is. And who he is,
:12:53. > :12:57.is somebody who is possibly a lot more liberal than the tea party
:12:57. > :13:02.tendencies happy with. The story I found interesting is a small story
:13:03. > :13:10.on the inside of the Sunday Times here, about his sister, being
:13:10. > :13:15.sidelineed. She, apparently, came to a campaign event, and asked a
:13:15. > :13:20.question about his stance on abortion and said he is pro-choice.
:13:20. > :13:24.Which is not the message? It is very much not the message, and
:13:24. > :13:26.embarrassing relatives are the fun features of any campaign. It is the
:13:27. > :13:31.standard journey of American campaigning, you campaign to the
:13:31. > :13:35.party in the first part and when you come to win, you campaign back
:13:35. > :13:38.to the country, I think Mitt Romney has shown himself in the later
:13:38. > :13:48.phase, rather than the former. He always looked unfortunately, but it
:13:48. > :13:55.is too late. Obama has been always been ahead. We need to keep
:13:55. > :14:00.cracking on. Let come, back home. With the kofrplgs season about to
:14:00. > :14:05.start. There's all - conference season about to start. There's an
:14:05. > :14:12.interesting Observer front page, to what could be the next big policy
:14:12. > :14:16.blowup, which is IDS's welfare bill. Firstly it is hugely dependent on
:14:16. > :14:20.somebody goes in the Department of Work and Pensions, presses a button
:14:21. > :14:26.and a computer comes on and everything works per effectly. It's
:14:26. > :14:30.never happened before, but that's what they rely on, the machine that
:14:30. > :14:35.goes ping. The whole loads of things, that they're trying to get
:14:35. > :14:41.people who are working, and go to the adviser and work more. In the
:14:41. > :14:48.absence of no jobs, that's a forlorn q Big story there. You pibd
:14:48. > :14:52.the Cabinet reshuffle as well. But, we got to talk about the
:14:52. > :14:56.Conservative story? Well Well I picked the sexist reshuffle, forces
:14:56. > :14:59.women to bottom of power list. There is apparently a list that is
:14:59. > :15:06.put out, that gives order of precedence for ministers, so you
:15:06. > :15:10.know, if you're not high on the list, then of to become at the beck
:15:10. > :15:15.and call to visit them in their office. So the few women who got
:15:15. > :15:20.through, they're not only a few number, but low on the list, my
:15:20. > :15:26.feeling about the sexist Cabinet reshuffle is it tells a bigger
:15:26. > :15:30.story about the lack of women in politics, in public positions, and
:15:30. > :15:36.retaining female talent is the big issue here. We have to talk about
:15:36. > :15:42.Boris mania. It has taken over lots of middle parts of the papers at
:15:42. > :15:44.least? Absolutely, Talk us through, there is genuine dissent inside the
:15:44. > :15:48.Conservative Party in Parliament about the Prime Minister, there's a
:15:48. > :15:53.group of relatively small group, but vocal and pushy people who
:15:53. > :16:00.would like to see to be shot of David Cameron? They're loose
:16:00. > :16:05.tongueed over the weekend, every paper careies an anonymous quotes
:16:05. > :16:10.to that effect. One person is quoted that is suggesting Graham
:16:10. > :16:15.Brady one of the famous men is a possible leader in the Conservative
:16:15. > :16:19.Party, in the event they got rid of David Cameron. I have nothing
:16:19. > :16:25.against Brady, but when you get that kind of talk, you realise they
:16:25. > :16:29.are in a peculiar place. And Boris is at the centre of this. He will
:16:29. > :16:33.turn up to the conference, he will speak on how to win, and how to
:16:33. > :16:37.beat Labour, it is going to be the big moment of the conference.
:16:37. > :16:45.you not think he does have lessons to teach politicians about how to
:16:45. > :16:51.win. I don't know if he has lessons to people how to govern. Very good
:16:51. > :16:56.point. If I were him that's what I would do. The Boris is to confound
:16:56. > :17:02.expectations, stand up and do a serious speech about governing.
:17:02. > :17:06.is going to be quite a frenetic odd feeling party season. In the
:17:06. > :17:09.Observer, the point is made one of the things about a coalition, you
:17:09. > :17:16.can have two leaders under Chancellor eng, but you have Vince
:17:16. > :17:22.Cable, who is on the show last week, at the Liberal Democrats and then
:17:22. > :17:26.you'll get everybody, following the blonde hair around the Tory week.
:17:26. > :17:30.The Liberal Democrats have held up reasonably well in their discipline,
:17:30. > :17:36.through terrible times. Will this be the week in which the discipline
:17:36. > :17:40.cracks? Do they start to think about Vince. I think that would be
:17:40. > :17:43.a mistake, the only strategy is to behind the leader and be the
:17:43. > :17:46.Government. Just before we leave this, because
:17:46. > :17:51.we're running out of time. Strictly come dance something back,
:17:52. > :17:56.all over the papers, I think. Got it there.
:17:57. > :18:02.As is Downton Abbey, I should say. Strictly, this is a fun piece,
:18:02. > :18:07.because they're actually passing the formula, that they've used to
:18:07. > :18:13.select the shrictry contenders. And Vince Cable, we would have like to
:18:13. > :18:19.see Vince in strictly. I don't know about. And Boris. They'd be
:18:19. > :18:27.excellent. Maybe that's the answer. You have Jerry Hall is the older
:18:27. > :18:31.woman, you have your older man, they're trying. I have a fan of
:18:31. > :18:35.Strictly, when you see the joins of the formula, that's where the
:18:35. > :18:41.programme starts to decline, they have to be careful, because they're
:18:41. > :18:45.easily slotted into the roles here. Agree. At least I know who they are
:18:45. > :18:50.this time. Maybe that's the answer to the party leaders, persuade them
:18:50. > :18:54.to go on Strictly. Weather now. Much of the country's wall lowing,
:18:54. > :19:00.in the sparkles of our Indian summer. The best month of the year,
:19:00. > :19:04.September, but for how much longer. Let's go to the weather studio.
:19:04. > :19:08.Good morning. You can run but you can't hide. The worden on the lips,
:19:08. > :19:12.will be Autumn as the weather acknowledge sell rates its change
:19:12. > :19:16.of seasons. Today there's cloud around compared to yesterday. And
:19:16. > :19:22.although it is dry at the Great North Run start line, at lunch time,
:19:22. > :19:25.we'll see wind coming through. But these are decent temperatures for
:19:25. > :19:28.the runners. Heavier rain in north west England and North Wales
:19:28. > :19:33.through the day to the north of that, sunshine, blustery showers,
:19:33. > :19:38.to the south of that, it is mainly dry, despite the cloud. We'll take
:19:38. > :19:42.a look at things at 4.00, these are beefy showers, risk of hail and
:19:42. > :19:47.thunder, brightness in between, but gusty winds. Heavy rain and lasting
:19:47. > :19:51.well on through the day, north west England and North Wales, but the
:19:51. > :19:55.rain taking time to get to south- east Wales. So rain arriving later,
:19:56. > :20:01.with sunshine. We'll see bright or sunny spells frighting will you the
:20:01. > :20:06.cloud in southern England. But not as warm as yesterday. A cooler
:20:06. > :20:10.night tonight. Blustery, hechive showers tomorrow. Cloud increasing,
:20:10. > :20:13.across the rest of England and Wales, but mainly dry. Week ahead,
:20:14. > :20:21.some sunshine at times but blustery showers, especially in the north.
:20:21. > :20:23.Cool days, and chilly nights to Cool days, and chilly nights to
:20:23. > :20:28.come as well. Well that's not too bad. The BBC achieved record
:20:28. > :20:34.rateings in the Olympics, 27 million people watched the Opening
:20:34. > :20:38.Ceremony and human audiences for performances like Mo Farah, it was
:20:38. > :20:43.the culmination of Mark Thompson's eight years of jecttor general
:20:44. > :20:52.tomorrow. He hands the baton on to George. Although he leaves on the
:20:52. > :20:55.high of the Games he's had his fair share of arguments.
:20:55. > :21:01.The media environment is changing, drastically and Mark Thompson joins
:21:01. > :21:05.me now. Welcome. Let's start if we may talking about the BBC. I guess
:21:05. > :21:09.the Olympics, were the highlight. The best was at the end? I thought
:21:09. > :21:14.this summer was amazing. And I thought it showed how close, the
:21:14. > :21:18.BBC and British public are. It was, the coverage of the sport itself.
:21:19. > :21:22.Those 24 channels so people could choose and watch everything they
:21:22. > :21:30.wanted. But it was an amazing moment for the country and we were
:21:30. > :21:34.there in the right way. The cultural Olympiad, had a amazing
:21:34. > :21:39.properly season, Shakespeare, and Parade's End running now. But
:21:39. > :21:44.everything, I hoped and prayed it would be, it came good.
:21:44. > :21:48.On the down side, I guess the Rustle Brand was of your hardest
:21:49. > :21:52.was it? To be honest, by far the most difficult thing that happened
:21:52. > :22:02.was the Alan Johnson kidnapping, when somebody's life at stake. It
:22:02. > :22:03.
:22:03. > :22:08.is a completely different thing. But of course, Jonathan s are
:22:08. > :22:13.ussell loomed large. With an organisation like BBC when you're
:22:13. > :22:16.broadcasting, tens and thousands of life hours, and presenters do crazy
:22:16. > :22:21.things, you're going to have problems. And sometimes, you'll
:22:21. > :22:26.find things that are wrong. What we talk to the public, it is
:22:26. > :22:31.interesting, even if in the middle of the Ross Brand row, or the
:22:31. > :22:36.competition row, the public said they trusted the BBC to understand
:22:36. > :22:40.this is wrong and put it right. That's how you're judged, whether
:22:40. > :22:47.wuck discripple thait and work out the boundaries, and if you go over
:22:47. > :22:51.the boundary to act romently. - promptly. If you take the
:22:51. > :22:57.newspapers and phone hacking years go by, and it is not clear the
:22:57. > :23:01.people behind it, understood it was wrong. If the BBC is held to a high
:23:01. > :23:05.level of accountability, what about the money question, you got stick
:23:05. > :23:10.for your salary, presenters got stick, and general feeling,
:23:11. > :23:15.certainly, in the first half of your tenure, that there were too
:23:15. > :23:18.many xextives paid too much, was that a fair criticism? What's the
:23:18. > :23:23.dilemma. The dilemma is the public want to the BBC to be the best
:23:23. > :23:28.broadcaster, in the world, I think we are. You want the best people in
:23:28. > :23:31.front of the camera and microphone and behind the cam ka are a. And it
:23:31. > :23:36.is true, the public mood changed and the market changed in
:23:36. > :23:43.immediatea. And I think, what you would have seen over this time, is
:23:43. > :23:46.I, and the governing body, BBC trust, responding promptly. I don't
:23:46. > :23:51.think there is another public institution, to address what I
:23:51. > :23:55.would regard legitimate public concern on this. When you heard,
:23:55. > :23:59.your 850,000, was too much, did you think, hold on a minute, the mood
:23:59. > :24:05.in the country has changed, and actually, they have a point and I
:24:05. > :24:11.have to really, consider this. joined the director-general in 2004.
:24:11. > :24:17.This was day one, awaiveed, all bonusesings I've never taken a
:24:17. > :24:22.bonus, because there's a sensitivity about public servants
:24:22. > :24:28.taking bonuses, my pay has gone down in 40%, what the BBC tries to
:24:28. > :24:32.do, in the way it runs itself is sensitive, again, to what its
:24:32. > :24:36.owners, the brick public think. There's no question, what we have
:24:36. > :24:41.avenue seen over the eight years, tovering do with public life, a
:24:42. > :24:45.change in attitude about these things, and we try to respond to.
:24:45. > :24:49.Your successor is getting half? BBC will continue to wrestle with
:24:49. > :24:53.that challenge. How do you get the best, the best sports rights,
:24:53. > :25:00.presenters and creative leaders, and do that in a way that is
:25:00. > :25:04.acceptable to the public. Overhanging all of this, is the
:25:04. > :25:09.effective 2017 real terms cut in what the BBC's got. Is this as bad
:25:09. > :25:14.as it can get for the BBC, without starting to lose services in large
:25:14. > :25:21.numbers? My view, this was my view in 2010 when the license settlement
:25:21. > :25:25.was reached in short order was the BBC was asked, to make 16% cuts in
:25:25. > :25:29.four years, very much in line with what the British Museum, National
:25:29. > :25:33.Gallery and theatre. Those culture institutions which in many ways,
:25:33. > :25:38.the Government was trying to protect in a tough period, the BBC
:25:38. > :25:42.was being asked to do the same n the end, you can't want to be the
:25:42. > :25:46.national broadcaster, and go through some of the same pain as
:25:46. > :25:50.the rest of the country. What I do think, the cuts were achievable
:25:50. > :25:53.without a loss in quality, but we're getting close to the edge now
:25:53. > :25:57.there. Are many parts of the BBC, we saw the controversy about local
:25:57. > :26:02.radio, where, when you look around the operation, it is hard to see
:26:02. > :26:08.what more you could cut. I would hope, when the funding comes up for
:26:08. > :26:13.discussion, in 2010-2016, it is recognised if you want a BBC with
:26:13. > :26:16.high quality it has to be paid for. This is your last day in office,
:26:16. > :26:20.from their perspective, what's the future of television? We have lots
:26:20. > :26:27.and lots of younger people who barely watch television in the old
:26:27. > :26:32.way these days? You put your finger on it, TV is changing, people want
:26:32. > :26:36.choice when to watch a programme, the I player has revolutionised
:26:37. > :26:41.that. How they watch it, devices, the smartphones, tablets. And
:26:41. > :26:44.choice in their hands. The 24 channels in the Olympics, people
:26:45. > :26:47.deciding themselves, and being their own schedule and controller.
:26:47. > :26:51.But the fundamental point, do people want to connect with
:26:51. > :26:57.television. There's no evidence in the UK or around the world, that
:26:57. > :27:06.television is going out of tile. People's fascination with live
:27:06. > :27:11.television, and great entertainment, that's undiminished. Do you think,
:27:11. > :27:15.BBC and other organisations will cease to be broadcaster, and be
:27:15. > :27:20.publishers, makers of programmes and people can get them in 101
:27:20. > :27:26.different ways? I don't. In the way the broadcaster, may be an obsolete
:27:26. > :27:32.term, plusher may be as well. BBC news, even today, BBC news, is a
:27:32. > :27:38.kind of cloud of information. People often forget how they heard
:27:38. > :27:42.a news story, was it Blackberry or iPhone or screen on work, already
:27:42. > :27:47.we're begining to see multi-media use of news. And we will ale see
:27:47. > :27:53.that more and more. The idea of gathering public money together to
:27:53. > :27:58.pay for, and to be pooled to create any quality content. Be it at the
:27:58. > :28:01.BBC or New York Times, I believe that quality, is going to be one of
:28:01. > :28:08.the real discriminatetors in this period. Thank you very much for
:28:08. > :28:12.that. You're off to New York, very soon? Yeah. I'm starting properly
:28:13. > :28:17.in November, but I'll spend a bit of time there. You're married to a
:28:17. > :28:23.American? I'm a Brit, through and through, and a proud one.
:28:23. > :28:27.Now then, my next guest, person fies what most would imagine a
:28:27. > :28:35.Hollywood director to be, a hot tempered force of nature who always
:28:35. > :28:41.gets his way. Harvey Weinstein's successes with Miria Max are legend,
:28:41. > :28:45.Pulp Fiction, Others, is now he's turning to stage, opening in
:28:45. > :28:51.Leicester. I asked him why he had chosen
:28:51. > :28:56.Leicester, that particular location. It's got incredible equipment. It's
:28:56. > :29:01.got incredible stage, fabulous rehearsal facility and I hear
:29:01. > :29:06.fantastic audiences, we'll find out Saturday night when we open. If
:29:06. > :29:12.they're really fantastic or run us out of town. But you know, we're
:29:12. > :29:18.finding never land the movie, was something that Jonnie Depp said
:29:18. > :29:25.remains in England. When we made the movie, we felt it was English,
:29:25. > :29:29.because of Peter Pan, andity origin. So, we're flying the Union Jack.
:29:29. > :29:34.You're a film guy, but you're more interested in musicals in
:29:34. > :29:38.particular. If they were, they could make a lot of money, and get
:29:38. > :29:43.bums on seats? And you can make more money in the movie business.
:29:43. > :29:48.But, it is not for that reason. I although it can be probably. I'm
:29:48. > :29:51.interested in theatre in general. And you know, I have all the people
:29:51. > :29:58.who should say that, my first theatre experience was when I was
:29:58. > :30:04.eight years old, I saw the Sound of Music, the minute I saw the nuns, I
:30:04. > :30:08.ran out of theatre and my dad saw me watching Gold Finger. So how I
:30:08. > :30:14.came to like theatre I have no idea. But, this movie meant a lot of to
:30:15. > :30:24.mini-. And I want to have a second life. Let's have a look at Finding
:30:25. > :30:29.
:30:30. > :30:35.# Sad sail on an adventure # Too some far away land
:30:35. > :30:38.# It is all in your imagination # Name the place and at your
:30:38. > :30:42.command # Africa, India #
:30:42. > :30:48.You mentioned England and Britain, you've been, interested in the
:30:48. > :30:51.British culture, from the get-go. I'm thinking of going back to the
:30:51. > :30:57.Secret Policeman's Balance, where you and your brother start in the
:30:57. > :31:01.film industry, and through to films like Shakespeare In Love. Is there
:31:01. > :31:08.a part of you, that is interested in the British thing? I have to
:31:08. > :31:14.tell you, Andrew, that, when I was a kid, his my eye pokeed out, and I
:31:14. > :31:22.must have looked like qausy modeo, because they didn't let me go to
:31:22. > :31:27.school. Timely, I got bored of the soap operas, and I want to do my
:31:27. > :31:31.homework, and teach me about reading to my neighbour. A lot of
:31:31. > :31:36.the books was great British authors, she had me on a good schedule. And
:31:36. > :31:41.I've always been in love with the literature of England, and I love
:31:41. > :31:46.England's appreciation for words. And the film crews in England and
:31:46. > :31:53.technical people, are probably the best in the world. You have a
:31:53. > :31:57.Mittic status in the film industry. Particularly around independent
:31:57. > :32:01.films. You're pretty tough when it comes to reshaping film. What makes
:32:01. > :32:05.a good film, do you have a formula in your head, or is it different
:32:05. > :32:12.for every film? When you have the bits in front of you, what makes
:32:12. > :32:18.the final product work? Well, last week, Paul Anderson, talked about
:32:18. > :32:26.skat the Master, which broke all box office records this week, the
:32:26. > :32:32.highest art house per screen, ever. And, you know, he gave me, he said
:32:32. > :32:38.Harvey's notes were extensive, I took them all, they were good.
:32:38. > :32:45.Dusten Hoffman said the same. I'm from the old school of where you
:32:45. > :32:52.test a movie, do you it, you watch it with an audience, even if it's
:32:52. > :32:56.an Esso teric work, I find to reach an audience. I'm brutal and more
:32:56. > :33:00.charming than you give me credit for Andrew.
:33:00. > :33:06.The Master, will not please the Scientology community. You've had
:33:06. > :33:10.to increase your protection, because of that, is that true?
:33:10. > :33:14.I'm at liberty to say, but let's say there's a difference of opinion
:33:14. > :33:19.from their side to our side. And we just want to make sure, that
:33:19. > :33:23.there's no trouble. The movie deals with more than that. It deals with
:33:23. > :33:28.the journey of soldiers after World War II, who drift in and out of the
:33:28. > :33:32.cults and stuff like that. But Paul has admitted it is based on the
:33:32. > :33:37.early works of Albert. It is controversialal movie and for
:33:37. > :33:42.anybody who is interested in the cults and that thing, you'll find
:33:42. > :33:50.this movie fascinating. It is an important subject. Let me ask you
:33:50. > :33:55.about a very, famous movie, Pulp Fiction, because after the recent
:33:55. > :34:01.shootings in the it is suggested you feel now, that there is too
:34:01. > :34:05.much violence in a lot of movies, and that it probably does have an
:34:05. > :34:08.effect. It is suggested you're asking Quentin to tone down the
:34:08. > :34:17.violence in some of his movies? glad we got a chance to clear that
:34:17. > :34:23.up. All I said was, because I have made movies with violences, after
:34:23. > :34:29.the shootings, we said let's get a seminar and find out. I've never
:34:29. > :34:36.asked him to cut, it is my longest partnership in the industry and my
:34:36. > :34:41.best. I would like to sit with Quentin, and Anderson, and many of
:34:41. > :34:44.the great directors, now working, and let's just sit with the experts,
:34:44. > :34:49.because if we're doing something wrong I want to find out. If it
:34:49. > :34:52.doesn't mean anything, it is carry on, business as usual. Why not find
:34:53. > :34:59.out. So there are a number of people, trying to put together a
:34:59. > :35:04.seminar, and I'm hoping for, this year, sun Dan film festival where
:35:04. > :35:10.we invite the directors, psychiatrists, and educators.
:35:10. > :35:14.sounds fascinating. Last question, you've been help raise money for
:35:14. > :35:18.President Obama's campaign, in your waters, how do you feel is going on
:35:18. > :35:25.in the campaign, what will happen? I was here for the Olympic week,
:35:25. > :35:29.and I must say, that Boyle's ceremony was the most unbelieveable
:35:29. > :35:33.thing to watch, it made me proud of England, and I married an English
:35:33. > :35:39.girl and it was incredible. But I witnessed, Prime Minister, David
:35:39. > :35:43.Cameron said to a group of people, that Mitt Romney had the unique
:35:44. > :35:49.distinct of uniteing all England against him, with his various
:35:49. > :35:55.remarks, so, on maf of my love of England I have to support the
:35:55. > :35:59.President. Who, is anything but making fau pas, he is's strong and
:36:00. > :36:05.smart. Mitt Romney didn't want to launch the missile to kill Osama
:36:05. > :36:09.Bin Laden. He was clear, the President did that. Strong on
:36:09. > :36:11.foreign policy, and at the end of the day, Mitt Romney is the same as
:36:11. > :36:15.Bush. There's a wonderful movie that we're associated with in
:36:15. > :36:19.America, which is opening in England, called the Untouchable.
:36:19. > :36:24.And it is broken every box office record in the world, it is from
:36:24. > :36:32.France, it is absolutely, I know this sounds like a commercial, but,
:36:32. > :36:39.your money back folks, if we don't find the movie, transformational.
:36:39. > :36:44.Thank you very much. Thank you for having me. Back here, 20 years ago
:36:44. > :36:48.to the day, Black Wednesday, blew a hole in the Conservative Government
:36:48. > :36:54.of Sir John major, a man who had the most unusual family backgrounds
:36:54. > :37:00.of any modern Prime Minister. His mother and father, a man during
:37:00. > :37:06.Queen Victoria's reign was music hall artists. Music hall is a lost
:37:06. > :37:12.world, killed off by the cinema and television and roorks but perhaps
:37:12. > :37:19.its spirit lives on. Sir John Major has written a book about it all.
:37:19. > :37:23.You called this book, My Old Man, and that's where it start. Your
:37:23. > :37:33.father was a music hall arist, he toped the bill at the time, he was
:37:33. > :37:34.
:37:34. > :37:38.a substantial figure in his way? But he was in Music Hall up to 1930.
:37:38. > :37:42.I wouldn't climate all he was one of the greats at music hall, he
:37:42. > :37:48.wasn't. But he and then wife kitty, dependable, very good, always
:37:48. > :37:52.working, on the Bill with most of the greats at some time or another
:37:52. > :37:57.rplt and then formed their own show and toped the bill. So he passed
:37:57. > :38:03.many stories about those days. is a lost world, we will never know
:38:03. > :38:08.quite what they were like, because most weren't recorded until late on.
:38:08. > :38:12.But, give us a tense of the range of performers, who you describe in
:38:12. > :38:18.this book? I learned, quite a lot about it at my father's bedside
:38:18. > :38:21.when he was old and ill. I was his audience as a small by, he was in
:38:21. > :38:25.his 06s when I was born. He would talk about his life on the stage,
:38:26. > :38:33.and the greats, both he worked with, and the perhaps, that he'd seen and
:38:33. > :38:38.not worked with. But Music Hall had a range T might be singing comic
:38:38. > :38:41.songs, comedians, animal acts, monologueists, black face acts,
:38:41. > :38:47.almost anything you could think of as variety today would be part of
:38:48. > :38:51.Music Hall. And you argue, that quite a lot of what we think
:38:51. > :38:58.sincere quintessentially British sure, from radio and television,
:38:58. > :39:03.The Goons, has the origins, in people like Dan Leno? There's no
:39:03. > :39:08.doubt about that. If you look how they performed, what they did, and
:39:08. > :39:13.what we know, a great deal has been handed down. Humour is continuous,
:39:13. > :39:17.what amuses the British psyche, a hundred years ago, tends to tickle
:39:17. > :39:22.it 20. Yes it has been handed down. They were astonishing characters.
:39:22. > :39:29.If you look at their background, some are full of pathos, they came
:39:29. > :39:34.from nowhere. Some never got anywhere, and their lives were full
:39:34. > :39:40.of hard hardship. Some had success and had vast sums of money, and
:39:40. > :39:44.often died destitute. These are he mark 8 stories, of remarkable
:39:44. > :39:48.people. They were like the stories of so many, would-be, rock stars,
:39:48. > :39:53.touring the country, hoping to make it, a few make it, and maybe take
:39:53. > :39:57.too many drugs and drink, and so on, later on. But it is also, like the
:39:57. > :40:03.sort of, popular culture you see in television even now, the dance
:40:03. > :40:07.shows and so on? Nothing is new. And a great deal is repetive. What
:40:07. > :40:16.is different, was in those days, music Hall was the end at the same
:40:16. > :40:23.time. It was very little to compete with it, as there is so much today.
:40:23. > :40:29.It sunk into the psyche. In the 1940s, it was decay, it turned
:40:29. > :40:35.revolution, potential revolution, in the 1840s, in a patriotic roar
:40:35. > :40:39.of joy, 20 years later. It had the great days at the height of empire.
:40:39. > :40:44.Hugely proud. Hugely patriotic, and pro-British, but fed mainly on the
:40:44. > :40:49.lives of the people, who atepded those. And the great artists,
:40:49. > :40:54.reflected those lives. And sang back to them, their lives and
:40:54. > :41:01.talked about their lives. It was hard-edge? Hard edge. Some of the
:41:01. > :41:05.social commentary has the force of a pile drive. Particularly artists
:41:05. > :41:09.like Jenny Hill, feminist, talked about the lives of people who were
:41:09. > :41:19.down trodden and why they were down trodden. Well worth reading about
:41:19. > :41:22.
:41:22. > :41:28.her. Let's turn to politics recently. Music Hall is much more
:41:28. > :41:33.fun. Nonetheless, that was the exist essential for this country.
:41:33. > :41:37.20 Years on, we are still looking at Europe, and particularly,
:41:37. > :41:41.concerned about what is happening to the Euro project now. How
:41:41. > :41:47.dangerous do you think things remain? It is the longest, most
:41:47. > :41:52.boring crisis I can remember? there are two things that are
:41:52. > :41:55.linked, first Europe and the Euro crisis and state of the British
:41:55. > :42:01.economy. You can't regard those as separate independentities. You have
:42:01. > :42:05.to look at two of them. If you take Europe first, a Europe has
:42:05. > :42:08.continuely evolved, it evolved a good deal further, towards
:42:08. > :42:12.centralisation, because of economic failure in Europe over recent years,
:42:12. > :42:19.than anybody imagineed in this timescale. And what you're now
:42:19. > :42:23.seeing, out of failure, not success, is the Euro core looking to
:42:23. > :42:28.integrate further, more towards a federal structure. Which this
:42:28. > :42:33.country could have nothing to do with? You mentioned Black Wednesday,
:42:33. > :42:37.but at Maastricht I opted sterling out of the eurozone, because I
:42:37. > :42:41.didn't think the eurozone would work as fiscal union and economic
:42:41. > :42:46.union. We are apart from that, and stay apart from that. But if the
:42:46. > :42:51.eurozone as I believe, continue to integrate over the next ten years,
:42:51. > :42:55.you're going in essence, within ten years, this isn't going to happen
:42:55. > :43:01.overnight, within ten nears, you will have a Euro core, that is to
:43:01. > :43:06.all intents and purposes, federal. Now, if that happens to a portion,
:43:06. > :43:11.a core, of the European Union, it changes that core's relationship
:43:11. > :43:15.with the rest of the European Union. And if they do that, the rest of
:43:15. > :43:20.the European Union, may feel it is appropriate to change their
:43:20. > :43:26.relationship with the core, and with the European Union as a whole.
:43:26. > :43:29.I think that offers an opportunity for us to clean up one of the long-
:43:29. > :43:33.running sores of British politics, which is the nature of our
:43:33. > :43:41.relationship with Europe. That would have to be a referendum F it
:43:41. > :43:45.was a treaty? If it was a treaty, of course it would. It would do in
:43:45. > :43:51.due course. The British economy, directly, these are grim times.
:43:51. > :43:55.This is the third quarter of technical recession, and Chancellor,
:43:55. > :43:59.incredibly unpopular. You've been through a period where, you are
:43:59. > :44:04.just buffeting through, a hard time. What's your analysis of the
:44:05. > :44:11.stkrents and weaknesses of the economy, and what's your advice?
:44:11. > :44:18.Firstly, it would be surprising if a Chancellor wasn't unpop unpopular.
:44:18. > :44:22.He has to do unpopular things. Tim Campbell, and Nick Clegg aren't
:44:22. > :44:27.imposing the cuts to hurt people. They're imposing the cuts because
:44:27. > :44:31.the last Government left the cub 350 bare, the gold was gone, the
:44:31. > :44:35.money was gone, they had to take tough medicine. People must
:44:35. > :44:40.understand that is why they are doing it. Of course it is unpopular,
:44:40. > :44:45.and you must expect the Chancellor to be unpopular. Nothing surprising
:44:45. > :44:49.about that. But, since I am no longer in politics, I can say
:44:49. > :44:57.something, that perhaps as a politician, I wouldn't. You
:44:57. > :45:03.mentioned, a Black Wednesday, around about that time, Norman
:45:03. > :45:07.Lamont was taking to piece, to say there was green shoots. But we know
:45:07. > :45:12.he was right. The recovery begins from the darkest moment. I'm not
:45:12. > :45:17.certain, but I think we have passed the darkest moment. And will tell
:45:18. > :45:22.you why. There are oddity in the figures at the moment. Why, in the
:45:22. > :45:25.depth of this recession is employment growing, why is
:45:25. > :45:29.industrial protection going up, why has the stock market risen. I could
:45:29. > :45:34.list a number of other things. There are things happening, that
:45:34. > :45:38.will become apparent. We don't know why or how. My guess, and this is
:45:39. > :45:45.something a minister can't say, but I can. My guess is in due course,
:45:45. > :45:50.we will find that we pass the bottom, that that last revision of
:45:50. > :45:54.GDP, when we had a half per cent repduction is less bad than we
:45:54. > :45:58.thought it was, and we are starting on what will be a slow, road to
:45:58. > :46:01.recovery. I think that is beginning to happen.
:46:01. > :46:07.And I hope that is the case, because I believe it will turn out
:46:07. > :46:10.to be so, for a vast range of reasons. Meanwhile, party
:46:10. > :46:15.conference season, you don't have to be involved in it any more. But
:46:15. > :46:19.there is another Conservative Prime Minister, there are more,
:46:19. > :46:23.whisperings and challenges, but he has borery Johnson bouncing around
:46:23. > :46:29.which you never had. Do you think the Conservative Party
:46:29. > :46:34.needs to calm down and settle down, or do you think this is an
:46:34. > :46:38.inevitable part of the bad year? Well, there's nothing surprising,
:46:38. > :46:41.about people being critical when times are tough. That is true in
:46:41. > :46:46.the Conservative Party, it is true in the Liberal Democratic Party.
:46:46. > :46:52.It's been true in the past. You saw those divisions in the 80s, and the
:46:52. > :46:56.Conservative Party had had wets and drys, you saw it in the '90s, on
:46:56. > :46:59.Europe. You're seeing it again, it is inevitability of political. But,
:46:59. > :47:05.I would have thought if the Conservative Party learnt anything
:47:05. > :47:13.in the past 20 years, it's lerpbled that religion side is not a good
:47:13. > :47:18.idea. Is it? The concept of people challenged Tim Campbell is an
:47:18. > :47:21.extremely good newspaper story, and Boris is an attractive and able and
:47:21. > :47:25.intelligent politician doing a supremely good job in London. But
:47:25. > :47:31.Boris, isn't in Parliament. Boris, hasn't said he wishes to become
:47:31. > :47:34.Prime Minister, the reverse. And, the belief, that suddenly
:47:34. > :47:40.everything will change, we will have a leadership challenge and
:47:40. > :47:44.you're going to have a replacement Prime Minister, that isn't in the
:47:44. > :47:48.real world. We aren't, David Cameron will remain Prime Minister,
:47:48. > :47:52.and contest the next election, and I very much hope he will win it.
:47:52. > :47:55.Your message to the backbenchers, who are constantly contacting
:47:55. > :47:58.newspapers and saying they want to kill the Prime Minister, and
:47:58. > :48:04.they're getting names on bits of paper, all the familiar stuff, your
:48:04. > :48:08.message to them? My message is look at history. Disunity, costs votes,
:48:08. > :48:12.unity helps a Government achieve the changes in our economy, we wish
:48:13. > :48:20.to see, there's good for the nation, the economy, good for them and the
:48:20. > :48:23.next election. Belt up? Your words not mine. After the death of
:48:23. > :48:30.Princess Diana, you were guardian for the Princes, now they're both
:48:30. > :48:35.back on the front pages again. These pictures, have cause an
:48:35. > :48:40.absolute furore, in this country, and it seems, that, St James's
:48:40. > :48:44.Palace, Prince is going to go to court in France, to take action,
:48:44. > :48:48.against the publishers, and who knows, the photographers concerned.
:48:48. > :48:53.Do you think that's an overreaction? I think it is
:48:53. > :48:57.absolutely right. So that people in future, know where the boundaries
:48:57. > :49:00.should be. The boundaries are plainly been crossed. I don't think
:49:00. > :49:06.we need minutes words about the photographs. The way they've been
:49:06. > :49:10.obtained, was tasteless. It is the action of a peeping Tom. In our
:49:10. > :49:14.country, we prosecute peeping Toms, that's what they've done, and
:49:14. > :49:18.peeping with long lenses from a long, way away. They're very
:49:18. > :49:23.distasteful and I'm delighted. I have often, in the past, been
:49:24. > :49:28.critical of the British immediatea. I thoroughly applaud the fact they
:49:28. > :49:32.won't touch the pictures with a barge poll, they deserve credit and
:49:33. > :49:37.it is a pity people overseas have lower seas. If you bumped into
:49:37. > :49:44.Berlusconi this morning, you would have a few words too? It is very
:49:44. > :49:47.unlikely, it might not be a good controversial. The more general
:49:48. > :49:52.media the British papers are waiting for the outcome. The
:49:52. > :49:57.Leveson Inquiry? I gave mief evidence to Leveson. I considered
:49:57. > :50:02.it carefully and gave lengthy evidence, I won't add or subtract
:50:02. > :50:07.to it. Leveson heard evidence from every conceivable point of view, I
:50:07. > :50:12.didn't hear it all, I'm going to wait to see what he recommends.
:50:13. > :50:16.Prince Harry is obviously, in a place of danger, Camp Bastion, in
:50:16. > :50:20.Afghanistan. Taliban claim they are attacking that catch and killed
:50:20. > :50:26.considerable number of people to get at him. Do you think it is
:50:26. > :50:31.right that he's out there, the danger as always, is that he's
:50:31. > :50:38.putting other people's lives at risk. He wants to fight, but is it
:50:38. > :50:42.a danger by putting him in a place, he is endangering other people's
:50:42. > :50:46.lives The first is that Prince Harry trained with his colleagues,
:50:46. > :50:52.he want to serve with colleagues. He most emphatically, would not
:50:52. > :50:57.wish to move. The second point, it would be a huge propaganda triumph,
:50:57. > :51:03.if Prince Harry, were to be moved. And thirdly, I think there's a
:51:03. > :51:08.great deal of an attempt to create public relations in the postering
:51:08. > :51:13.of the Taliban at the present time. The Army knows what it is doing,
:51:13. > :51:21.they will know whether there is a risk to those serving with pins
:51:21. > :51:24.Harry and base points on that. There's talk about pulling out
:51:24. > :51:28.troops early from Afghanistan. Would that help the situation in
:51:28. > :51:31.any way? I don't think it is relate. I don't think you can relate that
:51:31. > :51:36.point to the question of Prince Harry. I think there is a credible
:51:36. > :51:41.case for looking at when we actually withdraw troops. The
:51:41. > :51:44.moment, that President Obama said they would withdraw troops in 2014
:51:44. > :51:49.the Taliban were on notice. As to when the NATO troops would leave.
:51:49. > :51:55.And a large part of the Taliban, if they have any sense, probably moved
:51:55. > :51:59.in north west Pakistan sta and are sitting in the lawel part of
:51:59. > :52:03.Pakistan, waiting to come back, after the troops left. Having given
:52:03. > :52:13.notice of a date upon which we leave, I think you have changed the
:52:13. > :52:15.
:52:15. > :52:21.game. And changed it, totally. Sir John
:52:21. > :52:24.Major thanks. Six NATO troops have been killed by men wearing NATO
:52:24. > :52:30.yuesms. The two members of 3rd Battlion The Yorkshire Regiment
:52:30. > :52:36.were shot at a checkpoint in Nahr-e Saraj district in Helmand Province
:52:36. > :52:41.n another incident, four NATO soldiers were shot near the border
:52:41. > :52:45.with Pakistan. The former Prime Minister, Sir John more said the
:52:45. > :52:49.Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are right to take legal action against
:52:49. > :52:53.the French magazine which published topless pictures of the Duchess. He
:52:53. > :52:59.told the programme, the photographer's behaviour was no
:52:59. > :53:03.different to that of a peeping Tom. A third publication said it will
:53:03. > :53:06.print the pictures, an Italian magazine, will publish a special
:53:06. > :53:12.edition tomorrow, ignoring the threat of legal action. And that's
:53:12. > :53:15.all from me. The next news on BBC One, is at 1.30. Now back to Andrew
:53:15. > :53:18.and guests. Thank you.
:53:18. > :53:25.Mark Thompson returns and as promised we have the The Noisettes.
:53:25. > :53:28.Who have had a great summer. You played at the Paralympics? Fabulous,
:53:28. > :53:33.unforgetable experience. Africa express, tell us about that, that's
:53:33. > :53:39.the current tour? It was a fantastic train, we did a short
:53:39. > :53:49.tour of the UK, and there there were propbljects to interact with
:53:49. > :53:53.people, and there were 85 musicians, having one long jam session, which
:53:53. > :53:58.culminated, and jaming with Paul McCartney was a great moment.
:53:58. > :54:03.will be playing us, tell us about the song you will be playing?
:54:03. > :54:11.will play you a song called That Girl, it is a current single. It is
:54:11. > :54:15.a feel good song. Thank you for having me. Of course the The
:54:15. > :54:19.Noisettes were at the Paralympics, which followed on the Olympics so
:54:19. > :54:27.successfully. Everyone is talking about the spirit of the Olympics,
:54:27. > :54:31.the question is can we bottle it, and keep it in some way? I think it
:54:31. > :54:37.would be marsh bmrveb marvellous if we could. We saw some things, that
:54:37. > :54:43.I thought we had lost from the British chork, extent from the
:54:43. > :54:46.volunteers. The sheer, patriotism of the British nation for the
:54:46. > :54:52.athletes. I was fortunate enough to see aloft the Olympics, and the
:54:52. > :54:54.moment I remember most, was when the Paralympians came on in the
:54:54. > :54:58.Opening Ceremony, there were hour- and-a-half, and suddenly the
:54:58. > :55:05.British team appeared, and as soon as the first British athlete
:55:05. > :55:10.appeared, the whole of that 80,000 stadium was on their feet cheering,
:55:10. > :55:14.I had tears in my eyes. There's so much talent and creativity. The
:55:14. > :55:18.rest of the world knows, I spent a lot of the summer in theates,
:55:18. > :55:23.there's a sense when you want fresh ideas, and want a kourpbl, creative
:55:24. > :55:28.courage, you come to Britain. The rest of the world knows, it and we
:55:28. > :55:35.need to know that ourselves. Were you surprised, because Paralympics,
:55:35. > :55:40.has been in the past, a slight, down-beat, after the main Olympics?
:55:40. > :55:45.This time the enthusiasm continued at the same level? You will have
:55:45. > :55:50.forgotten this. But 27 years ago, I was minister for disabled people.
:55:50. > :56:00.And I I was absolutely thrilled to see it. There was a - I was talking
:56:00. > :56:00.
:56:00. > :56:04.to a foreign athlete, and he said, Paralympic athlete, and he said we
:56:05. > :56:09.never seen anything like this, he said who asked these people to come.
:56:09. > :56:13.They were thrilled of the size of the audience. With the Paralympics,
:56:13. > :56:17.and women's sport, there's something, diskofd about how
:56:17. > :56:21.exciteed and engaged the public can be, and we need to build on that.
:56:21. > :56:27.We'll try and bottle it. That is all for today. Thanks to all of my
:56:27. > :56:30.guests, next week we're back at the usual time, 9.00, but we'll be
:56:30. > :56:34.broadcasting a show from Brighton, where the Liberal Democrats will
:56:34. > :56:44.hold their annual kofrplg, I will be talking to Nick Clegg. Do join
:56:44. > :56:47.
:56:47. > :56:51.me if you can for that. We will # I don't want to know
:56:51. > :56:55.# Don't to hear about the things you say
:56:55. > :56:59.# Running around in my head # I don't want to know about the
:56:59. > :57:06.faist magazines about our bras, and tweets
:57:06. > :57:13.# I tell you something 18 # It ain't no mystery
:57:13. > :57:22.# How come your new best friend looks in your eye
:57:22. > :57:30.# That girl's in love with you # I know, that you're too blind to
:57:30. > :57:36.# I know that it's so blatant to # That girl's in love with you
:57:36. > :57:41.# So madly # Andrew, I don't want to know
:57:41. > :57:49.# If you're not coming home # I'll be down the street
:57:49. > :57:54.# I'd rather dance to the beat # You were with her until four
:57:55. > :57:59.# I don't mind company # Well not officially
:57:59. > :58:05.# But when she sits next to you, # You don't realise
:58:05. > :58:15.# When will you realise # That girl's in love with you
:58:15. > :58:16.
:58:16. > :58:23.# I know that you're too blind to # I know that it's so plain to see
:58:23. > :58:29.# That girl's in love with you # I'm just a so-and-so
:58:29. > :58:34.# Do what I do cos I'm mad but # But just a peep at you, you can
:58:34. > :58:42.see that you're delirious and seriously
:58:42. > :58:48.# That girl's in love with you # I know, that you're too blind to
:58:48. > :58:55.Mrk I know, that Tess a so plain To see
:58:55. > :58:59.# That girl's in love with you, so, plain