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:00:36. > :00:41.some warmer weather, many people's thoughts are turning to the promise

:00:41. > :00:44.of summer and holidays. That's certainly true of our MPs. As of

:00:44. > :00:48.last week, they only have to put in nine days in Parliament between now

:00:48. > :00:51.and June. Nice work if you can get it. Joining me today for our review

:00:51. > :00:55.of the Sunday newspapers, the editor of the Sunday Times Magazine, Sarah

:00:55. > :00:58.Baxter, and the deputy leader of the Liberal Democrats, Simon Hughes.

:00:58. > :01:03.This week's local elections will be the most telling test of voters'

:01:03. > :01:06.opinions since the Eastleigh by-election. Just how is the

:01:06. > :01:09.coalition faring at this tricky stage of the often troubled

:01:09. > :01:12.marriage? And what kind of effect are austerity cuts having on the

:01:12. > :01:16.government's mid-term popularity? Some estimates say the Tories might

:01:16. > :01:19.lose up to 500 seats in English councils.

:01:19. > :01:22.I will be joined later by the Conservative cabinet minister,

:01:22. > :01:26.Patrick McLoughlin. As Transport Secretary, he has been dealing with

:01:26. > :01:28.Treasury demands for further cuts at his department. So what does that

:01:28. > :01:32.mean for our potholed roads, rail network and full to bursting

:01:32. > :01:36.airports? The Labour Party's critics claim

:01:36. > :01:39.that its frontbench is bereft of fresh ideas and new policies. That's

:01:40. > :01:42.not something the shadow health secretary can be accused of. Andy

:01:43. > :01:48.Burnham will be joining me later to discuss his proposal to combine

:01:48. > :01:51.health and social care in what even sceptics say is a radical move.

:01:51. > :01:57.And I will be asking one of our most iconic actresses about her

:01:57. > :02:00.triumphant return to prime-time television. Diana Rigg is back as

:02:00. > :02:10.one of Doctor Who's most unexpected adversaries, and she will be telling

:02:10. > :02:11.

:02:11. > :02:18.me how her 1960s image always catches up with her. I think I am a

:02:18. > :02:21.mousepad! I don't want to be a mousepad, but I am. I am also a

:02:21. > :02:24.screensaver. Thank you very much. And the woman behind Facebook,

:02:24. > :02:27.corporate America's most influential female figure, Sheryl Sandberg, will

:02:27. > :02:30.be telling me how she wants to inspire women to triumph in the

:02:30. > :02:33.boardroom or the Cabinet room. And we have got some timeless music

:02:33. > :02:43.from an extraordinary new voice, Blues Boy Dan Owen, with a sound all

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:02:48. > :02:51.his own. Roll Me Up and Smoke Me When I Die.

:02:51. > :02:55.First, over to Naga for the morning's news headlines.

:02:55. > :02:59.Good morning. Police in Bangladesh are questioning two engineers after

:02:59. > :03:01.a building collapsed, killing more than 350 people. At least 29

:03:01. > :03:10.survivors were found yesterday, almost four days after the building

:03:10. > :03:19.collapsed on the outskirts of Dhaka. Workers are using cutting equipment

:03:19. > :03:25.to try to free them. This was an eight storey building.

:03:25. > :03:28.Now, just a heap of concrete rubble. This building contained a

:03:28. > :03:34.few clothing factories and a shopping centre. Hundreds of people

:03:34. > :03:39.were busy at work when it came crashing down on Wednesday. More

:03:39. > :03:43.than 2000 people have been rescued. But hundreds are still thought to be

:03:43. > :03:51.trapped inside. Rescue workers are aware that they are racing against

:03:51. > :03:56.time. Even days after the disaster, they are finding people alive. The

:03:56. > :04:00.rescue operation is basic. Holes are drilled through concrete floors.

:04:00. > :04:04.Water and medicine are sent through these holes. This morning, rescue

:04:04. > :04:09.workers found another group of people trapped in the rubble. They

:04:09. > :04:13.are working frantically to save them. British retail firm Primark

:04:13. > :04:18.has already admitted that one of its suppliers was inside the building.

:04:18. > :04:25.It said it was saddened by the incident. Families are struggling to

:04:25. > :04:29.come to terms with the tragedy. But the relatives of those missing, the

:04:29. > :04:34.agony continues. This is Bangladesh's worst ever industrial

:04:34. > :04:38.disaster. The building had developed cracks a day before the incident,

:04:38. > :04:43.but the workers were ordered to return to the production lines. Two

:04:43. > :04:51.factory owners have been taken into custody, along with two engineers

:04:51. > :04:54.involved in approving the building's safety. The tour --

:04:54. > :04:58.disaster has triggered protests by workers demanding better conditions.

:04:58. > :05:01.Many believe the latest incident should be a wake-up call for the

:05:01. > :05:06.industry producing billions of dollars' worth of clothes for major

:05:06. > :05:09.Western retailers. Italians are waking up this morning

:05:09. > :05:12.to a new government after a deal was struck ending two months of

:05:12. > :05:14.political deadlock since the general election. The prime minister will be

:05:14. > :05:17.the centre-left leader, Enrico Letta, who has gone into coalition

:05:17. > :05:23.with his rivals in the centre-right People of Freedom Party, led by the

:05:23. > :05:26.former prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi. It is hoped that the

:05:26. > :05:29.deal will ease worries in the stock markets. The country is still

:05:29. > :05:38.plagued by economic trouble after becoming one of the first eurozone

:05:38. > :05:40.victims of the global financial crisis.

:05:40. > :05:43.The Work and Pensions Secretary, Iain Duncan Smith, has suggested

:05:43. > :05:46.that wealthier pensioners should pay back benefits like free bus travel

:05:46. > :05:49.and help with their heating bills. In a newspaper interview, he said

:05:49. > :05:52.there was "no indication" of any change to the current system, but

:05:52. > :05:55.encouraged those who didn't need the money to hand it back to the state.

:05:55. > :05:59.The coalition is divided over the future of universal benefits for

:05:59. > :06:05.pensioners. A ban on larger retailers displaying

:06:05. > :06:07.cigarettes and tobacco is coming into force in Scotland. Similar

:06:07. > :06:12.rules are already in place in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

:06:12. > :06:15.Stores that don't comply could face prosecution or a fine. The ban was

:06:15. > :06:21.challenged in court by retailers, who said there was no evidence it

:06:21. > :06:25.would stop younger people from taking up smoking.

:06:25. > :06:28.The Duke of Edinburgh has presented new colours to 3rd Battalion, The

:06:28. > :06:33.Royal Canadian Regiment during a brief visit to Toronto. As Philip,

:06:33. > :06:36.the regiment's Colonel in Chief, was pictured with a badly bruised eye,

:06:36. > :06:40.but Buckingham Palace has played down fears about his health. It is

:06:40. > :06:45.understood that he did not fall and simply woke up with the bruising a

:06:45. > :06:48.few days ago. That's all from me. I will be be

:06:48. > :06:55.back with the headlines before ten o'clock.

:06:55. > :07:00.Let's have a look at the front pages this morning. The Sunday Times says

:07:00. > :07:05.intervening in Syria risks all out war, the warning from the UK's

:07:05. > :07:10.military chief. And Boris Johnson on the front at a Heathrow protest

:07:10. > :07:15.yesterday in West London. The Independent as a front page to make

:07:15. > :07:21.you smile, the happy list. They say it is the real big society, their

:07:21. > :07:25.list of all the voluntary workers who give us a reason to smile.

:07:25. > :07:30.Scotland on Sunday has the SNP under fire from yes campaigners. Alex

:07:30. > :07:35.Salmond needs to be more radical, it says. They Sunday Telegraph is

:07:35. > :07:39.focusing on human rights. Home Office Fiori after the drug dealer

:07:39. > :07:44.immigrant wins the right to stay in the UK because of family life here.

:07:44. > :07:48.The Duchess of Cambridge is also on the front page, plenty of coverage

:07:48. > :07:58.of her inside the papers. The Observer has a UKIP story that is

:07:58. > :08:01.

:08:01. > :08:05.dominating a lot of papers. The mail on Sunday - Big Brother to switch

:08:05. > :08:09.off your fridge. This is saying that computer chips will take control of

:08:09. > :08:14.home appliances when our energy is low. If you are using too much

:08:14. > :08:20.power, you might find that your French will go off. The Sunday

:08:20. > :08:25.express says NHS reforms will kill cancer patients. The Sun has a story

:08:25. > :08:28.on Ronaldo, and the Sunday Mirror as well. Let's have a better look now

:08:28. > :08:38.with Sarah Baxter and Simon Hughes, who have been going through them.

:08:38. > :08:42.Simon, UKIP is a story that caught your eye? Yes. On the front page, it

:08:42. > :08:47.says UKIP have very few policies and can't agree what they are, which is

:08:47. > :08:51.what I have discovered as well. During the week, I was quizzing the

:08:51. > :08:56.leader of UKIP on his tax policy, which a couple of days before, he

:08:56. > :09:01.had said was a flat tax rate of 31p in the pound. Then I asked him on

:09:01. > :09:06.Thursday, and he said, we don't have that policy any more. People have to

:09:06. > :09:10.vote this week for very serious councils. People understand that

:09:10. > :09:14.they are a right-wing party to the right of the Tory party, because

:09:14. > :09:22.they believe in the regulation. But if, to use the example of the people

:09:22. > :09:31.on the front page of the Observer, members of their party say "as soon

:09:31. > :09:35.as more than two people get in a room, progress stops". There is a

:09:35. > :09:40.suggestion by right-wing think tanks to lend the party credibility. I

:09:40. > :09:46.hope people are not deceived. not put people off from voting for

:09:46. > :09:51.them in Eastleigh. They have an unprecedented number of candidates

:09:51. > :09:55.in these elections. People have to think of what the result is of what

:09:55. > :09:58.they do. In a by-election, you protest against the government of

:09:58. > :10:04.the day, that is understandable. But these are local council elections

:10:04. > :10:09.which will run health, education and social services. Safer to go with

:10:09. > :10:15.people where you know where they stand. But Sarah, they are worrying

:10:15. > :10:20.a lot of people. They have got some pretty ragbag candidates. They have

:10:20. > :10:24.people from the National front, from the BNP, from the English Defence

:10:24. > :10:27.League. They will come under a lot of scrutiny now that they are doing

:10:27. > :10:33.well. But it is no surprise that they are doing well, because there

:10:33. > :10:35.has been a gap for a protest party ever since screaming Lord such did

:10:35. > :10:45.and you guys became respectable and joined the government. I plead

:10:45. > :10:45.

:10:45. > :10:51.guilty. A lot of people would say the parties are worried about UKIP

:10:51. > :10:54.and the effect they are having. A party spokesman from UKIP is saying

:10:55. > :10:59.that UKIP has been subjected to record a naked smear campaign and

:10:59. > :11:02.that politicians of political parties are going through social

:11:02. > :11:08.media and trying to discredit the party. Yesterday, I was at

:11:08. > :11:15.Hampshire, on the doorstep. I saw no smear campaign. There was a contest.

:11:15. > :11:19.We were trying to win the seat from the Conservatives. UKIP was not in

:11:19. > :11:22.that conversation. I met one person who said they might be tempted to

:11:22. > :11:28.vote for UKIP. Everybody is trying to win seats in the conventional

:11:28. > :11:33.way. The major parties are trying to win seats conventionally. If there

:11:33. > :11:37.is a UKIP challenge, we try to deal with it. But do you really know what

:11:37. > :11:44.they stand for? They have views on Europe and immigration, but not much

:11:44. > :11:49.else. There is an interview with Boris Johnson in your magazine, the

:11:49. > :11:55.Sunday Times Magazine, with David Cameron, talking about Boris.

:11:55. > :11:58.saying Boris can do whatever he likes. What does that mean?Will

:11:58. > :12:02.Boris come back into Parliament before the next election? He is in

:12:02. > :12:06.prime position to take over from David Cameron, should the Tories

:12:06. > :12:11.lose. David Cameron has decided the best policy is to hold your friends

:12:11. > :12:14.close and your enemies even closer by saying, I love Boris. And when

:12:14. > :12:23.asked if he could come back, he says, Boris can do whatever he

:12:23. > :12:30.likes. He has already brought in his brother. Yes, the first Johnson in

:12:30. > :12:35.Downing Street, Jo Johnson. He is sitting on a very safe seat in

:12:35. > :12:38.Orpington. Some think he could be the first Johnson PM. But the nature

:12:38. > :12:42.of the rivalry between these political beasts, David Cameron and

:12:42. > :12:46.Boris Johnson, who both went to Eton, is revealed in the magazine

:12:46. > :12:53.today. David Cameron says he watched the BBC documentary on Boris and

:12:53. > :12:59.discovered to his delight that Boris got a second. Guess who got a first?

:12:59. > :13:04.David Cameron. As did Boris's brother. Lots of competition.

:13:04. > :13:08.the Johnsons were raised to compete with each other. So now Jo is in

:13:08. > :13:17.Downing Street, Boris will try harder. Another story in the Sunday

:13:17. > :13:20.Times. This is a development of this tax dodging story. The government is

:13:20. > :13:24.trying to make sure companies pay their tax and individuals pay their

:13:24. > :13:31.tax when they should, and to deal with tax havens. The latest

:13:31. > :13:38.revelation - tax dodgers hide behind charities. Charities who have never

:13:38. > :13:41.received any money are being named by companies and individuals as the

:13:41. > :13:48.recipients of their money from offshore havens like the British

:13:48. > :13:55.Virgin Islands. Unwittingly?Cancer Research UK and the NSPCC were among

:13:55. > :13:58.charities named as beneficiaries from a trust. The charities were not

:13:59. > :14:05.told about the trust and received no money. The Crocodile Dundee actor

:14:05. > :14:12.was investigated for illegal tax activities. He named Red Cross.

:14:12. > :14:18.Hogan admits this was a sham. If you name a charity, that prevents

:14:18. > :14:20.further investigation as to who the beneficiaries are. The government

:14:20. > :14:27.want to make sure we expose the beneficiaries so that people know

:14:27. > :14:30.where the money goes. Let's move on to the story about pensioners'

:14:30. > :14:36.benefits. Iain Duncan Smith says, hand them back if you can afford

:14:36. > :14:40.to. A lot of people can afford to hand their bus passes and free TV

:14:40. > :14:45.licence money back. But why should we give it to the state to spend

:14:45. > :14:49.badly? I say am coming on from this charity story where charities have

:14:49. > :14:53.been named as recipients for things they didn't receive, why don't we

:14:53. > :14:58.give it to charity? Couldn't IDS come up with a plan to incentivise

:14:58. > :15:03.that? Nobody will give their money back to the state. How could you

:15:03. > :15:10.return your bus pass? You could write a cheque to Mr IDS at the

:15:10. > :15:14.British Treasury? Is this something you will look at after the election?

:15:14. > :15:19.At the moment, pensioners have done very well. They have been protected

:15:19. > :15:21.against housing benefit changes. They have had the best pension

:15:21. > :15:26.increases since Lord Asquith invented the pension. There is a

:15:26. > :15:30.debate about that, whether the millionaire pensioner, and I am not

:15:30. > :15:35.claiming most are, but some pensioners have very high incomes.

:15:35. > :15:40.Should they receive the same as everybody else? It is on the agenda.

:15:40. > :15:45.All parties will have to address it. The idea is that those who don't

:15:45. > :15:52.need them could potentially pay their winter fuel money into a

:15:52. > :15:56.charity, and then the charity could get the tax benefit. Lots of

:15:56. > :15:58.coverage of the story in Bangladesh and these horrific scenes we have

:15:58. > :16:08.seen of people being pulled out alive from this eight storey

:16:08. > :16:09.

:16:09. > :16:15.building. it is a tragedy and my thoughts go out to the huge number

:16:15. > :16:19.of people. Dhaka is the head of a populous country, and I'm glad that

:16:19. > :16:23.it has finally risen to the top of our news here. Often get the sense

:16:23. > :16:26.that if five people are killed in the States, it is headline news here

:16:26. > :16:35.but if 500 killed in the third World, nothing is reported. It

:16:35. > :16:39.raises wider questions. Who are the companies building the buildings?

:16:39. > :16:46.Who are the companies employing the workers? Primark appears to be one

:16:46. > :16:48.of them, selling clothes to us at very cheap costs because they pay

:16:48. > :16:53.low wages. That is a Commonwealth conference coming up later and if

:16:54. > :16:58.they want to gain credibility to make sure the countries in the

:16:58. > :17:05.Commonwealth have minimum standards for workers, not just saying how

:17:05. > :17:09.terrible this is. I have always had the feeling, paying five quid for a

:17:09. > :17:16.T-shirt, that must be a story of suffering and poverty there. Now we

:17:16. > :17:19.know that is true, one with Baiji loads we are buying into the

:17:19. > :17:28.exportation of labour from other countries. -- when we buy cheap

:17:28. > :17:34.clothes. We have had a fair trade campaign. People think they are

:17:34. > :17:39.buying fair trade food. Clothing exports is a huge part of the

:17:39. > :17:44.economy of someplace like Bangladesh. It is a huge gamble and

:17:44. > :17:47.we in the West should be able to do something about that. A totally

:17:47. > :17:55.different subject. The Duchess of Cambridge. She has been in the news

:17:55. > :17:59.every day. This one is about the sex of her baby, which is causing

:17:59. > :18:07.endless regulation. In the latest clue is that she has bought a buddy

:18:07. > :18:14.in baby blue. In many prams have you seen in shocking pink? Not too many.

:18:14. > :18:18.I had one of these bodies for my first child, who was a girl, and

:18:18. > :18:26.guess what colour it was? Blue. This does us nothing. She is on the front

:18:26. > :18:33.pages today, donating money, as King for money to be donated to hospices,

:18:33. > :18:43.which is a good cause. And recommend that. Like the assumption that they

:18:43. > :18:43.

:18:43. > :18:46.know. Do you think they do? They may not even know. I did, but they did

:18:46. > :18:51.not tell anybody. Why would not be surprised if they were in that

:18:51. > :18:55.situation. The other talk is about her bump and is the bomb big enough.

:18:55. > :19:00.Tanya Gold is very funny in the Sunday Times comment pages, go she

:19:00. > :19:05.says that the bumper is not even born and already she is being

:19:05. > :19:09.described as too thin. That is Eric -- that is our obsession with Royal

:19:09. > :19:14.bodies. She certainly looks happy. And let's talk about the happy list,

:19:14. > :19:18.which I'm sure will make a few able smile. There are a few lists in the

:19:18. > :19:22.papers. The happy list in the Independent, and the rich list for

:19:22. > :19:28.sport in the Sunday Times. I think there is a worthy comparison. The

:19:28. > :19:33.sports rich list shows people, David Beckham, 106 the �5 million although

:19:33. > :19:36.he is giving away the money he is earning at the moment, Lennox

:19:36. > :19:46.willing -- Lennox Lewis, �95 million, Lewis Hamilton, �60

:19:46. > :19:47.

:19:47. > :19:54.million. In the happiness list, Bernard Neve done runs an inner-city

:19:54. > :20:00.rugby club for tigers and they know him -- for youngsters and I know

:20:00. > :20:09.him. There are a whole range of people who live their life for

:20:09. > :20:15.nothing. They do not ask for money in return. Love this story. Here is

:20:15. > :20:20.a man who looks like an accountant, but has the soul of James Bond, and

:20:20. > :20:24.until recently he was the Director General of MI5. Jonathan Evans, not

:20:24. > :20:30.a man one had heard of much for good reason, because he was in charge of

:20:30. > :20:33.our internal security. But now that he has retired, he has come out as a

:20:33. > :20:37.Maserati enthusiast and said that he did not used to be able to dry one

:20:38. > :20:41.because it draws too much attention to yourself and you have to drive a

:20:41. > :20:51.Vauxhall, but actually his passion is driving in Maserati, blasting

:20:51. > :20:52.

:20:52. > :20:56.Tina Turner 's simply the best. are not a Twitter user, but Ed Balls

:20:56. > :21:03.tweeted his name a couple of years ago. I'm thinking was searching his

:21:03. > :21:07.name and he accidentally press send. It reveals that everybody is

:21:07. > :21:12.actually keen to see where the feature. In response, this is the

:21:12. > :21:17.anniversary today so if Ed Balls is trending, it is because it is Ed

:21:17. > :21:22.Balls date. Some of the saddest tweeters in the universe are

:21:22. > :21:29.tweeting at 4:30pm today. That is for real political geeks. -- Ed

:21:29. > :21:34.Balls day. Now it was sunny and warm for many of us at the end of the

:21:34. > :21:40.week and a bit chilly today. With the threat of more rain. Will April

:21:40. > :21:45.showers bring forth May flowers as the old saying goes?

:21:45. > :21:48.the old saying goes? Good morning. It has been jolly

:21:48. > :21:53.chilly this morning in the south and east where we have had cloudless

:21:53. > :22:00.skies. For today, no April showers except in the North. For most of us,

:22:00. > :22:05.cloudy and cool. Showers to the north, punching holes through Easter

:22:05. > :22:09.and Scotland. The sunshine baby with us yet for a few hours. -- the

:22:09. > :22:19.sunshine may be with us yet. This weather fronts bringing increasing

:22:19. > :22:21.

:22:21. > :22:24.cloud, wind and patchy rain. Some sunshine breaking out across

:22:24. > :22:27.Northern Ireland and eventually across northern England between the

:22:27. > :22:36.showers. Where we have that cloud, we will struggle with temperatures

:22:36. > :22:39.in the Midlands just eight and nine. Warmer than yesterday. It is worth

:22:39. > :22:45.noting that some of the showers in the North could fall as sleet and

:22:45. > :22:52.snow. The overnight wind pushing cloud out of the way. But the wind

:22:52. > :22:58.will alleviate much frost. As for tomorrow, back to April showers for

:22:58. > :23:00.the last couple of days of April. But with wind in the South on

:23:00. > :23:04.Tuesday, it should start to feel Tuesday, it should start to feel

:23:04. > :23:07.springlike. One of the world's most powerful businesswomen, Sheryl

:23:08. > :23:11.Sandberg, senior executive at Facebook, has been in the UK

:23:11. > :23:17.lately, promoting her campaign to encourage other women to reach for

:23:17. > :23:21.the top in their career. She has written a book cold Lean In,

:23:21. > :23:25.analysing why so few women make it to corporate leadership in the

:23:25. > :23:29.business world. And she's challenging them to recognise the

:23:29. > :23:32.problem and bring about equality, not least by doing more of the

:23:32. > :23:37.childcare and domestic work. We met to discuss her call to arms and

:23:37. > :23:44.began by asking her about the main obstacles that trip women up on the

:23:44. > :23:48.career path. Women are held back by many things, determination, sexism,

:23:48. > :23:58.childcare that is too expensive, and public policy and institutional

:23:58. > :23:59.

:23:59. > :24:05.policies. But we are affected by the stereotypes with which we are

:24:05. > :24:15.raised. Dirty shirt maker babies, for boys, smart like daddy, for mum,

:24:15. > :24:17.pretty like money. Women are outstripping men at University, but

:24:17. > :24:27.they come up against this glass ceiling, still. The corporate world

:24:27. > :24:32.

:24:32. > :24:40.is dominated an end. That is it. And those stereotypes do not help.

:24:40. > :24:43.applaud leadership in men and boys but we call the girls C. One of the

:24:43. > :24:53.messages of my book is that the next time someone is about to call a

:24:53. > :24:55.

:24:55. > :24:59.little girl Bossi, we should say she has management potential. Is it not

:24:59. > :25:01.true that the only way to get more executive women is positive to

:25:01. > :25:05.scream and eight and? There are a lot of discussions across Europe

:25:05. > :25:10.about women and they do not presume to decide about public policy, but

:25:10. > :25:15.he was what I know. Quarters alone will not do it. There are countries

:25:15. > :25:20.in Europe and Scandinavia that have had quarters for some time and they

:25:20. > :25:27.have less than 3% of the top companies run by women. But they

:25:27. > :25:31.have more than 40% of women on boards. Because the quarters are in

:25:31. > :25:38.place, but it has not put more women in the jobs where decisions are

:25:38. > :25:41.made. -- quarters. IRQ that we need to fix public policy and fix the

:25:41. > :25:48.institutions in society but we also need to tear down the stereotypes

:25:48. > :25:52.because we have two to get more women into leadership roles. You

:25:52. > :25:56.talk about getting where you got. Have to say, reading it, we have

:25:56. > :26:03.both got two children and it sounds exhausting. Getting up at 5am before

:26:03. > :26:09.your newborn baby? You had one day off on maternity league -- maternity

:26:09. > :26:12.leave before you were back at work. My second baby, took time off. What

:26:12. > :26:18.matters is making things more equal for women. Women are under

:26:18. > :26:22.tremendous pressure. Most women in this country and mine work full time

:26:22. > :26:25.and have two. There is a myth that men can have career and family and

:26:25. > :26:30.women can only have one. You need to wake up and understand that most

:26:30. > :26:34.women have both. And that means we cannot do twice as much as our

:26:34. > :26:38.husbands in the home and not be exhausted. Women put pressure on

:26:38. > :26:41.themselves and their is an internal question, can you have it all, which

:26:41. > :26:45.is asked the whole time. If we could do anything for women, let's get rid

:26:45. > :26:51.of that phrase. No matter how much we all have and how great things

:26:51. > :26:55.are, no one has it all. We make trade-offs, men and women, every

:26:55. > :27:00.minute. I'm sitting with you right now and I'm not in my office. I'm

:27:00. > :27:04.playing with my child right now, I not outside with friends. I am going

:27:04. > :27:10.to York, I am not sleeping. Whatever we do, we make trade-offs. -- going

:27:10. > :27:14.to yoga. Are you advocating a new feminist movement or is this a

:27:14. > :27:17.self-help manual? I have never finished -- considered myself a

:27:17. > :27:21.feminist because somehow that was distasteful or unnecessary. We did

:27:21. > :27:26.not need feminism because it was all going to be equal and graduated from

:27:26. > :27:28.university thinking it would be. were graduating at the same rate as

:27:28. > :27:34.the men, in my entry-level call levels were the same rate and that

:27:34. > :27:39.God would continue. And every year, it decreases. And so I think we need

:27:39. > :27:43.feminism. And by that, I have embraced the world and call my dad

:27:43. > :27:51.have embraced the word in there, so the feminist. I'm back -- I am

:27:51. > :27:55.embarrassed I did not do it before. You talk about Facebook in your book

:27:55. > :28:00.and many people look at Facebook and the way that young people,

:28:00. > :28:02.particularly children and teenagers, use it, and worry about the way, the

:28:02. > :28:06.impact it is having on them and their relationships with others,

:28:06. > :28:11.their relationship with individuals. Not just Facebook, social media. You

:28:11. > :28:15.must worry about that. The printing press, when it was invented people

:28:15. > :28:18.thought it would destroy learning. Why learn anything if you do not

:28:18. > :28:22.have two memorise anything? When the telephone was invented people

:28:22. > :28:27.thought it would destroy relationships. How could you have a

:28:27. > :28:31.meaningful relationship -- meaningful conversation with this

:28:31. > :28:36.technology? I think the benefits of technology are overwhelmingly

:28:37. > :28:42.positive. Per the season issue and people worry about how much you

:28:42. > :28:46.forward photographs. It can be put to hundreds of thousands of people.

:28:46. > :28:50.With that power is the response ability to understand the technology

:28:50. > :28:57.and use it responsibly. Should you give more help to younger people?

:28:57. > :29:02.There is a generation who are just over sharing. Every detail of their

:29:02. > :29:06.lives. Should you not give more help to them to let them know how to use

:29:06. > :29:12.it more safely? We do two things for young people. We give them a of help

:29:12. > :29:15.and we restrict their share. If you are a teenager on Facebook and you

:29:15. > :29:19.try to share with the whole world, you are just sharing with friends

:29:19. > :29:25.and friends of friends. Teenagers do not have the ability that adults

:29:25. > :29:29.have two share as broadly. restrict it. Nor you are a great

:29:29. > :29:35.admirer of Hillary Clinton. I wonder, as are you talking about

:29:35. > :29:38.whether she might be the next, the first female president. Is politics

:29:38. > :29:44.something you might be heading towards? Not myself but I have high

:29:44. > :29:49.hopes for her. I'm doing all that I can do for her. If you get the phone

:29:49. > :29:53.call, you must have some eye on that in the future? I love what I'm doing

:29:53. > :30:01.at Facebook. We connect with a billion people. Sharing makes us

:30:01. > :30:08.closer. This is now but as for the future, who knows? It is harder to

:30:09. > :30:13.fight someone you know. We launched organ donations here, and that has

:30:13. > :30:22.dramatically increased. I think we have so much more to do and I'm

:30:22. > :30:25.excited to be part of it. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me.

:30:25. > :30:30.Now, the NHS is never far from the political front line, and last week

:30:31. > :30:33.was no exception, with rows over nurses training and waiting times in

:30:33. > :30:37.accident and emergency departments. Before the last election, the

:30:37. > :30:40.Conservatives said the NHS was safe in their hands, but Labour claimed

:30:40. > :30:44.the coalition's changes to the health service are a waste of

:30:44. > :30:49.money, diverted resources from patient care. So how would a Labour

:30:50. > :30:53.government deal with the multiple pressures on the NHS, such as a

:30:53. > :30:57.growing elderly population? The Shadow Health Secretary Andy Burnham

:30:57. > :31:02.joins me. You have been talking about your radical plans to merge

:31:02. > :31:07.social care and hospital care. How would that work? We have to see them

:31:07. > :31:10.as one system. At the moment, one person has their needs met through

:31:11. > :31:14.three separate systems, their physical needs through the NHS,

:31:14. > :31:20.social needs through social care and mental health is separate again. It

:31:20. > :31:25.is time to bring these together, whole person care, G physical,

:31:25. > :31:30.mental and social in one system. That means merging the NHS with

:31:30. > :31:35.council social care. By doing that, we can get much better value for

:31:35. > :31:39.money. At the moment, these two systems don't work well together.

:31:39. > :31:44.Older people get trapped in hospital because there was not support in the

:31:44. > :31:49.community, and that wastes money. And these are concrete plans?

:31:49. > :31:53.is what you would do if you win the next election? These are emerging

:31:53. > :31:58.plans. I put forward a proposal that we should merge the NHS and social

:31:58. > :32:02.care, and the Labour Party is debating that. But this is my

:32:02. > :32:08.direction of travel. It is time to update our system for the 21st

:32:08. > :32:12.century. The ageing society demands it. There are questions the system

:32:12. > :32:15.cannot answer to the public's satisfaction. People get passed from

:32:15. > :32:20.pillar to post in the battle for support. They have to tell the same

:32:20. > :32:25.story to everyone who comes through the door, because councils and the

:32:25. > :32:28.NHS don't work together. Let's give people one point of contact for all

:32:28. > :32:34.of their care needs. If mum or dad goes into hospital, let's have

:32:35. > :32:38.social care support going with them. But these are ideas, not concrete

:32:38. > :32:43.plans? You are not saying this is what will happen if Labour win the

:32:43. > :32:48.next election? These are our ideas that we have taken to the Labour

:32:48. > :32:52.Party. They have not yet been endorsed by the Labour Party

:32:52. > :32:59.conference, but that will happen in due course. Who would be in charge,

:32:59. > :33:03.though? The NHS? Do you take social care out of the power of local

:33:03. > :33:07.authorities? My proposal is to have the NHS leading an all provision,

:33:07. > :33:14.the physical, mental and social. At the moment, the social is done by

:33:14. > :33:18.the council. I think the NHS should look after the whole person. To

:33:18. > :33:22.balance that, councils should lead on decommissioning. They would hold

:33:22. > :33:27.the budget. Then they could make a better link between health and

:33:27. > :33:32.housing, health and education, health and leisure, all of the wider

:33:32. > :33:39.things that determine our health. Councils are best placed to set a

:33:39. > :33:44.strategy for good local health. Where does the money come from for

:33:44. > :33:50.this? As you know, the NHS is struggling as it is. It needs real

:33:50. > :33:54.term increases. Is that what you would give? We have to get more for

:33:54. > :34:02.the money we currently put into the NHS and social care. We spend around

:34:02. > :34:07.�1 billion on the NHS and 15 to 20 on social care. Social caring

:34:07. > :34:10.England is a malnourished, minimum wage system. It is not working. It

:34:10. > :34:15.will never deliver the standards we aspire to forever body's parents

:34:15. > :34:20.from a system that delivers ten minute slots in peoples homes by

:34:20. > :34:25.staff who are not properly trained or awarded. If the NHS were to lift

:34:25. > :34:29.standards in social care, we would get better value for money. At the

:34:29. > :34:34.moment, we are seeing the collapse of social care, we are seeing older

:34:34. > :34:37.people trapped in expensive hospital beds. That is not spending the

:34:37. > :34:46.budget well. This is about getting more for what people currently put

:34:46. > :34:50.into the system. So you avoid an unnecessary trip to hospital and get

:34:50. > :34:54.fewer elderly people in hospital beds. That implies that you need

:34:54. > :34:58.fewer hospitals. Is that what we are looking at under a Labour

:34:58. > :35:02.government, hospital closures? might mean fewer hospital beds, but

:35:02. > :35:09.I am not talking about closures of a NES Mac or other essential services.

:35:09. > :35:13.At the moment, we have too many older people in hospital beds. They

:35:13. > :35:16.are held in hospital because there is nowhere else for them. We allow

:35:16. > :35:24.people to fail at home and drift towards hospital. That is not good

:35:25. > :35:28.for them or for the taxpayer. Let's support people in their home, give

:35:29. > :35:35.them all that they need - physical, mental and social support in one

:35:35. > :35:43.package. That makes better use of resources. It would also involve

:35:43. > :35:48.more money. No, it doesn't. The NHS was created 65 years ago. What a

:35:49. > :35:52.wonderful step forward it was, but it did not building the social side

:35:52. > :35:57.of care. And as we are all getting older, that is becoming a bigger

:35:57. > :36:02.problem because we have a system where one person's needs are not

:36:02. > :36:06.properly met. The reason why older people become lost in parts of

:36:07. > :36:11.hospitals and becoming dehydrated is because there is not the social

:36:11. > :36:15.support on the board to look after them. I am sure a lot of people

:36:15. > :36:19.would welcome people being able to move from hospital beds into their

:36:19. > :36:24.own homes, but the NHS is struggling for money. Where will that money

:36:24. > :36:29.come from? It needs real term increases. Is that what you would

:36:29. > :36:34.give it under a Labour government? We have always predicted the NHS and

:36:34. > :36:38.we would carry on doing that. But I am not talking about new money, but

:36:38. > :36:41.getting better value for the money we are already putting in. If you go

:36:41. > :36:45.into any hospital today and asked the chief executive how many older

:36:45. > :36:49.people should not be here, but can't be discharged because there is not

:36:49. > :36:58.support in the community, they will say about a third of the beds are

:36:58. > :37:01.trapped in that way. That is not financially going forward. We have

:37:01. > :37:06.to provide better support in the home. At the moment, there is no

:37:06. > :37:11.incentive to invest in the preventative side of care, which is

:37:12. > :37:19.social care. We have to turn this system on its head. We have to give

:37:19. > :37:23.the NHS the incentive to support people properly at home, giving them

:37:23. > :37:28.high-quality, whole person support. That is a big change the Labour

:37:28. > :37:31.Party is bringing forward. It is about extending the NHS in the

:37:31. > :37:39.century of the ageing society. It is about getting better value for the

:37:39. > :37:42.budget that we already put in. talk more about general politics.

:37:42. > :37:48.Labour are being accused of not having enough concrete ideas. What

:37:48. > :37:51.would you say to that? We are beginning now to set out our stall.

:37:51. > :37:56.We are two years from a general election, and it is right that we

:37:56. > :38:01.start to come forward. Look at what Ed Miliband was saying yesterday

:38:01. > :38:07.about a living wage. That is the beginning of a genuine alternative

:38:07. > :38:11.on work and benefits that is distinctly Labour. The coalition

:38:11. > :38:15.have tried to take forward the benefits debate by dividing people

:38:15. > :38:21.between strivers and skivers. I think that is crude and unpleasant

:38:21. > :38:24.politics. Ed Miliband is saying we have to do away with that. Many

:38:24. > :38:30.people who receive benefits are in work, it is just that they don't get

:38:30. > :38:34.paid a decent wage, or they are not given enough hours to work. So we

:38:34. > :38:39.subsidise low pay in this company. A living wage would help address

:38:39. > :38:43.that. I would personally say to go further and ban things like zero

:38:43. > :38:51.hours contracts. That is a Labour response to the debate about work

:38:51. > :38:56.and benefits. Labour are the party of work. Thank you very much.

:38:56. > :38:59.Now, for almost 50 years, Diana Rigg has been a truly iconic star. The

:38:59. > :39:04.since she turned self defence into an artform in the avengers, she has

:39:04. > :39:08.been a sensation. The need Bond girl to actually married 007, we gave as

:39:08. > :39:11.good as she got in on her magister Secret Service. A distinguished

:39:11. > :39:16.stage career has brought her theatre's top awards as well as a

:39:16. > :39:22.damehood. Now she is returning to where it all began, television. Dame

:39:22. > :39:24.Diana is playing a crafty queen in Game Of Thrones, and she has had a

:39:24. > :39:28.particular honour bestowed on her by the makers of Doctor Who. Writer

:39:28. > :39:31.Mark Gatiss has created an entire episode for her and her daughter.

:39:31. > :39:41.When we met, I asked what it was like to play the Time Lord's latest

:39:41. > :39:48.foe. Can you imagine the joy? And such wonderful parts. Outrageous

:39:48. > :39:53.lines, I have to say, which is great fun. Thanks to Mark. And something

:39:53. > :39:57.that took you back to your Yorkshire roots, because you were born in

:39:58. > :40:01.Doncaster. But you did not grow up their? Know, when I was about two

:40:01. > :40:06.months old, I went to India, where my parents were, and stayed there

:40:06. > :40:11.until I was about seven and then came back to England. So I never had

:40:11. > :40:16.a Yorkshire accent, but it was great joy speaking one.

:40:16. > :40:25.You do seem to keep turning up like a bad penny. Force of habit.Can I

:40:25. > :40:30.offer you teach? Know, thanks. We have had a skin for already, you

:40:30. > :40:38.might say. I am the Doctor, you're nuts and I'm going to stop you.

:40:38. > :40:43.afraid I cannot allow that. You have been part of so many iconic series.

:40:43. > :40:47.The avengers, of course, James Bond. You were the only Bond girl to marry

:40:47. > :40:55.the man himself. And now Doctor Who, which itself has a cult following.

:40:55. > :40:59.Are you ready for all this? I don't know what will happen. But I

:40:59. > :41:06.remember after the avengers, I was very young and I had no idea. Now I

:41:06. > :41:10.am very much older. I am not too keen on the publicity. I prefer to

:41:10. > :41:16.keep a low profile where that is concerned. But if it gives other

:41:16. > :41:25.people pleasure, which is part of the great joy of our profession,

:41:25. > :41:31.then I am delighted. But just keep away! The fame, when you played an

:41:31. > :41:36.appeal in the avengers, that hits you suddenly. It did. I was totally

:41:36. > :41:41.unprepared. I was remembering the other day, I was driving away from

:41:41. > :41:47.the studio and I think it was a reporter from the Daily Mirror, he

:41:47. > :41:54.actually got into the car with the and insisted on driving back to

:41:54. > :41:59.London with me and asking me questions on the way. Which was

:41:59. > :42:05.extraordinary. But in those days, people did that. And of course, I

:42:05. > :42:10.didn't have a bodyguard or what they have now. Real invasion of privacy.

:42:10. > :42:17.A telly star had a completely different influence on people. You

:42:17. > :42:23.became part of their homes, part of their lives and a part owned you. So

:42:23. > :42:30.the whole emphasis was on familiarity, getting to know you. In

:42:30. > :42:37.the old days, a star was somebody up there, like Greta Garbo. At a telly

:42:37. > :42:43.star was somebody you could approach and touch and part owned, in a way.

:42:43. > :42:50.So that was difficult. And the fame was extraordinary. I didn't know

:42:50. > :42:57.what to do with the fan mail. I just used to put it in the back of my

:42:57. > :43:01.mini! I didn't have a secretary. I didn't have photographs. In the end,

:43:01. > :43:05.I asked my mother to do it. She used to read these letters from young men

:43:05. > :43:12.and white back and say, my daughter is far too old for you. You need a

:43:12. > :43:20.good run around the block. Get real! But fame nowadays is very different.

:43:20. > :43:27.It is almost far more immediate, whereas you -- people have more

:43:27. > :43:34.access to information, and camera phones. Terrible. I don't contribute

:43:34. > :43:40.to anything, but on the telly, my history is up there. I think I am a

:43:40. > :43:46.mouse pad. I don't want to be a mouse pad, but I am. I am also a

:43:46. > :43:51.screensaver. Thank you very much. It is weird. It is not just Doctor Who

:43:51. > :43:57.you are in. Game Of Thrones, this hit TV series. You are being

:43:57. > :44:04.likened... It is said that you are to Game Of Thrones what Maggie Smith

:44:04. > :44:11.is to down to an abbey. It is a fantastic part. Wonderful. I

:44:11. > :44:17.couldn't ask for better lines. Also, the costume is to restrict. As an

:44:17. > :44:22.old bag, I don't have to spend hours in make-up. I have got a wimple, and

:44:22. > :44:26.I am completely covered up. It is great. 15 minutes in make-up and 15

:44:26. > :44:30.minutes to get dressed. You should have stayed well out of

:44:30. > :44:35.this. But once the cow has been milked, there is no squirting the

:44:35. > :44:39.greenback up her other, so here we are. What do you say to that? Shall

:44:39. > :44:46.we have some lemon cake? She says all the things that other

:44:46. > :44:55.people dare not say. Is that you?A bit of me, candid. You seem to be

:44:55. > :45:00.revelling in it. I adore it. And I am so lucky. I could be sitting at

:45:00. > :45:03.home, grumbling, but I am not. Now, a huge sigh of relief at the

:45:03. > :45:06.Treasury last week after better-than-expected figures stopped

:45:06. > :45:09.the UK economy from falling into a triple dip recession. But as the

:45:10. > :45:14.Chancellor pointed out, the path to recovery is proving difficult and

:45:14. > :45:17.building our way to growth is one solution being urged on the

:45:17. > :45:20.government ASH infrastructure projects such as new roads, railways

:45:20. > :45:23.and perhaps more airport runways could create jobs and boost the

:45:23. > :45:27.economy. But they often run into planning problems, and where would

:45:27. > :45:31.the money come from when the Treasury is trying to cut borrowing

:45:31. > :45:34.and the private sector is nervous of taking risks? Transport is an area

:45:34. > :45:40.crying out for investment. I am joined by the Transport Secretary,

:45:40. > :45:47.Patrick McLoughlin. You talked to your Cabinet colleagues last week

:45:47. > :45:50.about how transport could be used to promote growth. What will you do?

:45:50. > :45:55.The Chancellor has been very good in protecting the capital budget so

:45:55. > :45:59.that we can do infrastructure investment. At the moment, we have

:45:59. > :46:05.the largest construction anywhere in Europe. Crossrail is moving under

:46:05. > :46:11.London. Birmingham new Street station is opening today, that is

:46:11. > :46:17.600 million pounds of investment. Next month, Newcastle station starts

:46:17. > :46:20.a redevelopment. There is a huge amount of things going on. What

:46:20. > :46:24.about the roads, which need urgent attention? There is a lot of

:46:24. > :46:26.attention and investment going into the roads. We have to look at

:46:27. > :46:30.getting more investment, but one of the things we're doing at the moment

:46:30. > :46:37.is making proper use of the infrastructure that is already

:46:37. > :46:43.there. Something called Manage Motorways, which sounds boring but

:46:43. > :46:52.is very important. There is a lot of work going on, extending that by 70

:46:52. > :46:56.miles. Instead of having work going on over three carriageways, we have

:46:56. > :47:00.four carriageways operating. That is a bit short term. You ask me what

:47:00. > :47:07.we're doing and I'm telling you what we're doing. Longer term, there are

:47:07. > :47:12.some schemes we are looking at. The A14, how do we get a better system?

:47:12. > :47:17.It was announced as a shovel ready project in 2011. It is not even

:47:17. > :47:23.underway. It was not shovel ready, it is a project that needs to be

:47:23. > :47:29.looked at. We need private finance. We do not want to keep an eye always

:47:29. > :47:32.on the taxpayer. We need other finance. And that is the crux of the

:47:32. > :47:39.problem, encouraging private investment, which is proving tricky.

:47:39. > :47:45.It is difficult. But we are achieving private finance. We have

:47:45. > :47:47.done that as far as some of the tunnels and bridges are concerned.

:47:47. > :47:52.Actually, infrastructure projects take a long time. It is right that

:47:52. > :47:56.we get them right. That is one of the reasons why this government is

:47:56. > :48:01.spending and committing to spend a huge amount on the railways. We have

:48:01. > :48:06.seen passenger numbers double. I want to talk about roads. You talk

:48:06. > :48:09.about private investment. I suppose you can understand why people are

:48:09. > :48:18.put off putting money into roads when you look at things like the

:48:18. > :48:23.Msix toll. Lorries will have to go free for a month? We have to look at

:48:23. > :48:28.what is happening. Certain lessons can be learned. Taiwan to meet with

:48:28. > :48:33.the management. It is not a good advert. -- I want to meet with

:48:33. > :48:37.management. If you are trying to encourage investment, the roads are

:48:37. > :48:39.in need of improvement and it is not a good advert. And we will be

:48:39. > :48:43.addressing the whole question of how you get private finance into the

:48:43. > :48:52.roads rated this year. And will be publishing a document along those

:48:52. > :48:55.lines. -- later this year. The head of the AA called our roads a

:48:55. > :48:59.national embarrassment. The fact that we are temporarily repairing

:48:59. > :49:05.potholes, which costs 20 times more than resurfacing. People are calling

:49:05. > :49:08.on the government to go and invest the money in long-term solutions. In

:49:08. > :49:11.George Osborne in the Autumn statement found an extra �300

:49:11. > :49:16.million. Yes, we can spend more money. It is difficult at the

:49:16. > :49:19.moment, but we are borrowing a huge amount of money. We have to get the

:49:19. > :49:24.deficit down. We have got the deficit down by a third and we have

:49:24. > :49:27.to keep working on that so that we can do more. But the whole thing I'm

:49:27. > :49:31.doing at the Department of Transport at the moment is looking at the way

:49:31. > :49:35.that we get infrastructure investment and capital expenditure

:49:35. > :49:42.on the roads. �300 million last year, �200 million for the highways

:49:42. > :49:46.agency schemes, and 170 million pounds for local authorities. That

:49:46. > :49:54.is at a time where it is very tough for finances but the transfer -- but

:49:54. > :49:58.the Chancellor is committed. At the moment, we do not know what we are

:49:58. > :50:01.going to do about the throw, whether it will be expanded order will be a

:50:01. > :50:08.new airport in the Thames estuary. Boris Johnson said that the

:50:08. > :50:11.government has to rule out the third runway before the next election. You

:50:11. > :50:15.have been pressing me about infrastructure spending but Gatwick

:50:15. > :50:19.airport, over �1 billion is being spent. Heathrow airport, �2.4

:50:19. > :50:25.billion being spent on a new terminal. That is investment of...

:50:25. > :50:29.We're talking about one term. But you ask me about the present. Let

:50:29. > :50:32.media with the future in the moment. -- we are talking about long

:50:32. > :50:36.term. That investment is making a huge difference. The London airports

:50:36. > :50:39.are being owned by separate people and we see huge investments. As far

:50:39. > :50:44.as the future is concerned, it is right that we look at exactly what

:50:44. > :50:50.we're going to be doing as far as aviation capacity is concerned. One

:50:50. > :50:58.of the things that I did Wanna go to Department -- when I've got to the

:50:58. > :51:02.Department was to set up a commission. Even the man doing the

:51:02. > :51:05.commission admitted that this could have been done before the next

:51:05. > :51:09.election. For political reasons, David Cameron does not want to go

:51:09. > :51:14.back on a promise. It is right that we do the work and the commission

:51:15. > :51:18.has been broadly welcomed. They are looking at all the options because

:51:18. > :51:22.there are different opinions as to what should happen as far as London

:51:22. > :51:28.and aviation capacity is concerned. It will do a proper job and give me

:51:28. > :51:31.an interim report by the end of the year. We will see where we go.

:51:31. > :51:35.Something far more immediate, the local elections on Thursday. How

:51:35. > :51:39.worried are you about UKIP? I'm not worried about UKIP. The truth is

:51:39. > :51:42.that they can say different things to different people. I've read in

:51:42. > :51:46.certain areas that they are against high-speed rail and yet they fought

:51:46. > :51:50.the last election committed to building three high-speed railway

:51:50. > :51:54.lines. They say that the Conservatives are running scared and

:51:54. > :51:57.that they are behind a smear campaign. The papers are full of

:51:57. > :52:01.negative stories about UKIP and they say that the Tories are behind many

:52:01. > :52:05.of these. That they have been finding stories in social media,

:52:05. > :52:09.about things that UKIP candidates have done in the past. I think

:52:09. > :52:15.candidates was put under scrutiny and think it is right. Why should

:52:15. > :52:18.their candidates get away without scrutiny that other parties have?

:52:18. > :52:22.do not know anything about a smear campaign but do not that if you want

:52:22. > :52:26.low council tax, councils that are committed to not increasing council

:52:26. > :52:31.tax, the best thing to do on Thursday is to vote Conservative and

:52:31. > :52:36.see those Conservative councils. So it is OK to go through social media

:52:36. > :52:40.and find stories against rivals? I do not know that that has happened

:52:40. > :52:44.but it is something that happens for all parties, candidates are put

:52:44. > :52:49.under scrutiny. I'm concerned that these elections are very important,

:52:49. > :52:53.and they will decide the council tax levels. I would ask people to look

:52:53. > :53:00.at the records of their councils. In the main, Conservative councils have

:53:00. > :53:04.kept zero % council tax rises. you look at the impact of that

:53:04. > :53:10.austerity drive to having a broad, we have a new government in Iceland

:53:10. > :53:15.announced and one in Italy. There is much concern that the government,

:53:15. > :53:18.potentially, is facing an anti-austerity drive and that could

:53:18. > :53:25.go the same way in our next election. Voted out on austerity.

:53:25. > :53:29.The easiest thing to do would be to close our eyes to the economic

:53:29. > :53:38.situation. That would be the wrong thing. We have to hold our nerve. We

:53:38. > :53:41.have brought the deficit down and that is important. Think people

:53:41. > :53:46.appreciate that. They know that we are still borrowing a huge amount of

:53:46. > :53:52.money. We have to bring the deficit down.

:53:52. > :53:56.No two Naga for the news headlines. Thank you. Patrick McLoughlin said

:53:56. > :54:02.that he is not worried about UKIP at all. He said that it was right to

:54:02. > :54:06.put the candidates under scrutiny. UKIP have accused the Conservatives

:54:06. > :54:11.of running a morally reprehensible campaign, by trawling through

:54:11. > :54:13.Twitter and Facebook looking for smears.

:54:13. > :54:16.Nine survivors have been found in the collapsed building in

:54:16. > :54:20.Bangladesh. Emergency teams have brought in heavy lifting gear as

:54:20. > :54:25.they try to rescue more people. At least 350 are known to have died in

:54:25. > :54:32.the disaster, which happened four days ago.

:54:32. > :54:35.That is from me for now. Next news on BBC One is at midday. Back to

:54:35. > :54:39.Sophie in a moment but first, look at what is coming up after this

:54:39. > :54:43.programme. Join us at 10pm from Birmingham where we have added

:54:43. > :54:48.social networkers and victims of trolling debates. We have people who

:54:48. > :54:54.think the Kings and Queens should have retirement options and that

:54:54. > :54:59.civil partnerships should be the right of everyone.

:54:59. > :55:02.Dan Owen is a 20-year-old singer songwriter from Shrewsbury. He has

:55:02. > :55:07.hardly played to more than a handful of people, really, but suddenly all

:55:07. > :55:10.that is changing. Sitting in his Hawaii home on the other side of the

:55:10. > :55:15.world, the legendary founder of Fleetwood Mac, Mick Fleetwood

:55:15. > :55:22.stumbled upon a clip of lose by Dan on YouTube and thought, what a great

:55:22. > :55:25.voice, and that he should be playing to more than a few folk in pubs and

:55:25. > :55:30.bars. Now the Shropshire Lad has been booked to play at Glastonbury

:55:30. > :55:34.and he's going to to with ZZ Top. Things are looking up. Good morning.

:55:34. > :55:40.And it is all because of a YouTube clip. That is it. It is weird how it

:55:40. > :55:44.all happened. It will give a lot of hope to those thousands of budding

:55:44. > :55:48.musicians. Until last week, you had never been out of the country. You

:55:48. > :55:53.got on a plane for the first time last week and ended up in Nashville.

:55:53. > :55:58.Yes, which was an amazing place full I was recording with the Grammy

:55:58. > :56:03.award-winning producer. It was a bit of an experience. And you played in

:56:03. > :56:11.front of some of your heroes. We went to Willie Nelson 's 80th

:56:11. > :56:18.birthday party, with Neil Young and Sheryl Crow and Norah Jones. Some

:56:18. > :56:23.amazing people. To see them in front of me... And you are going to play

:56:23. > :56:26.one of his songs now? I am, Roll Me Up and Smoke Me When I Die.

:56:26. > :56:29.Obviously, your career is taking off. We will hear from you in a

:56:29. > :56:33.moment but we are most out of time for this week will stop package of

:56:33. > :56:37.my guess is. Jeremy Vine will be here next Sunday, joined by the

:56:37. > :56:42.BBC's chairman, Chris Patten, actress or we won a maker, and there

:56:42. > :56:45.will be music from Nigel Kennedy. -- Zoe Wanamaker. Until then, we leave

:56:45. > :56:55.you with Dan Owen and the number made famous by Willie Nelson, Roll

:56:55. > :57:14.

:57:14. > :57:22.Me Up and Smoke Me When I Die. # Roll me up and smoke me when I

:57:22. > :57:32.die. # And if anyone don't like it, just

:57:32. > :57:34.

:57:34. > :57:36.look 'em in the eye. # Say I didn't come here, and I

:57:36. > :57:46.ain't leavin'. # So don't sit around and cry.

:57:46. > :57:49.

:57:49. > :57:51.# Just roll me up and smoke me when I die.

:57:51. > :57:54.# You won't see no sad and teary eyes.

:57:54. > :57:56.# When I get my wings and it's my time to fly.

:57:56. > :58:02.# Just call my friends and tell them.

:58:02. > :58:05.# There's a party, come on by. # And just roll me up and smoke me

:58:06. > :58:15.when I die. # Roll me up and smoke me when I

:58:16. > :58:19.

:58:19. > :58:22.die. # And if anyone don't like it, just

:58:22. > :58:24.look 'em in the eye. # Say I didn't come here, and I

:58:24. > :58:29.ain't leavin'. # So don't sit around and cry.

:58:29. > :58:32.# Just roll me up and smoke me when I die. # Well just take me out and

:58:32. > :58:36.build a roaring fire. # And just roll me in the flames for

:58:36. > :58:40.about an hour. # And then pull me out and twist me up. # And point me

:58:40. > :58:45.towards the sky. # And roll me up and smoke me when I die. # Roll me

:58:45. > :58:48.up and smoke me when I die. # And if anyone don't like it, just look 'em

:58:48. > :58:52.in the eye. # Say I didn't come here, and I ain't leavin'. # So

:58:52. > :58:57.don't sit around and cry. # Just roll me up and smoke me when I die.

:58:57. > :59:01.# Just roll me up and smoke me when I die. # And if anyone don't like