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:00:36. > :00:40.of the year on Friday. Wimbledon starts tomorrow. Festival-goers

:00:40. > :00:45.flocking to Glastonbury this week. It sounds like summer but as we all

:00:45. > :00:50.now know it's not. It's not great out there, is it? So for the next

:00:50. > :01:00.hour at least, do stay with us. We've got plenty for you. Barrister

:01:00. > :01:04.and Labour Peer Helena Kennedy and comedian Russell Brand. A big week

:01:04. > :01:07.ahead at Westminster. All eyes on the Chancellor in the Commons on

:01:07. > :01:10.Wednesday afternoon when he finally unveils his spending review for

:01:10. > :01:13.2015-16 after the next election. The Chancellor is claiming that the

:01:13. > :01:16.medicine is beginning to work. All the pain is starting to produce

:01:16. > :01:19.gain. "The British economy is leaving intensive care. And moving

:01:19. > :01:22.from rescue to recovery," he says. This morning we'll be asking George

:01:22. > :01:27.Osborne whether he's done the deal to claw back �11.5 billion from his

:01:27. > :01:30.Cabinet colleagues. And just how painful this will be for all of us?

:01:30. > :01:32.Meanwhile, Labour are also keen to talk tough. Yesterday the Labour

:01:32. > :01:37.leader said he would be "remorseless" in prioritising

:01:37. > :01:41.spending. They are both And this would include sticking to the Tory

:01:41. > :01:50.plan for the overall level of government spending. Going to be

:01:50. > :01:53.looking through the papers with us this morning. But Labour still refer

:01:53. > :01:58.to this pledge as their starting point, so how long will they match

:01:58. > :02:01.the Tories for? All this will be clarified by the Shadow Chancellor,

:02:01. > :02:03.right here, in a few minutes. Also this morning I've been talking to

:02:04. > :02:11.the actress Kim Cattrall and director Marianne Elliott about

:02:11. > :02:18.staging an American classic that explores stardom and aging. Plus

:02:19. > :02:22.some great music this morning from Sharleen Spitari and Texas. All that

:02:22. > :02:25.coming up but first the news from Briony McKenzie. Good morning. The

:02:25. > :02:27.United States is putting pressure on Hong Kong to extradite the former

:02:27. > :02:32.intelligence agent Edward Snowden. I see Alexandra Del Lago, artist and

:02:32. > :02:34.staff. It lodged the request for his return yesterday, with one official

:02:34. > :02:37.saying any delay could harm diplomatic relations. Mr Snowden is

:02:37. > :02:42.behind claims Britain's GCHQ has been gathering vast amounts of data

:02:42. > :02:44.on people's use of the internet and phone calls. He's been charged in

:02:44. > :02:54.the US with stealing government secrets. John Sudworth has this

:02:54. > :03:08.

:03:08. > :03:14.report. Overnight, Edward Snowden's status has changed. Before his

:03:14. > :03:24.position was uncertain. Even his whereabouts unconfirmed. Now the USA

:03:24. > :03:28.

:03:28. > :03:38.has made it clear it is seeking his extradition from Hong Kong and it

:03:38. > :03:47.

:03:47. > :03:53.wants it done quickly. The story is once again, all over Hong Kong's

:03:53. > :04:00.newspapers this morning, up until now, the authorities have been

:04:00. > :04:10.saying very little. But that may have to change with one Washington

:04:10. > :04:15.

:04:15. > :04:19.official quoted as saying any foot dragging would strain relations

:04:19. > :04:22.between America and this The Chancellor George Osborne will claim

:04:22. > :04:25.the British economy is leaving intensive care as he unveils a fresh

:04:25. > :04:27.round of spending cuts this week. Chinese territory. The spending

:04:27. > :04:30.review will be announced on Wednesday, setting out �11.5 billion

:04:30. > :04:33.worth of cuts to Government departments for 2015 to 2016.

:04:33. > :04:36.Writing in the Sun newspaper today, the Chancellor has also unveiled a

:04:36. > :04:39.new �10 million annual fund to help injured service personnel and their

:04:39. > :04:42.families. It will be paid for from the fines levied on banks, for

:04:42. > :04:46.attempting to manipulate the Libor interest rate. The warning came

:04:46. > :04:49.shortly after more revelations from Mr At least ten foreign tourists

:04:49. > :04:51.have been killed following a shooting in Pakistan. Snowdon were

:04:51. > :04:54.published exposing Local police say gunmen stormed a hotel and opened

:04:54. > :04:56.fire in the Diamer district of Gilgit-Baltistan. The extent of

:04:56. > :05:04.Britain's own high-tech spying capabilities. The government's

:05:04. > :05:07.eavesdropping centre GCHQ has been tapping the Internet and Initial

:05:07. > :05:09.reports suggest the victims were from Ukraine, Russia and China.

:05:09. > :05:12.Gathering enormous quantities of Officials in northern India have

:05:12. > :05:15.warned that up to a thousand people may have died in the landslides and

:05:15. > :05:18.flash floods triggered by early monsoon rains. Phone call Currently

:05:18. > :05:20.almost 600 people are confirmed dead in the Himalayan state of

:05:20. > :05:24.Uttarakhand, while about 40,000 are stranded in the mountains.

:05:24. > :05:30.Information for years. GCHQ said its operating within the law and the

:05:30. > :05:33.government says a warrant is needed to She said she could never have

:05:33. > :05:41.imagined winning, but last night Andrea Begley was crowned the winner

:05:41. > :05:44.of the BBC One talent show The Voice. The 27 year singer from

:05:44. > :05:47.Northern Ireland beat the bookies' favourite Leah McFall to claim the

:05:47. > :05:49.first prize of a record deal. Read the stored Communications of British

:05:49. > :05:52.citizens Andrea, who's partially sighted, was described as an

:05:52. > :05:55.inspiration by her mentor on the show, Danny O'Donoghue. . Meanwhile

:05:55. > :05:58.Edward Snowden is reported to be in a safe location in location in the

:05:58. > :06:01.Hong Kong where he That's all from me for now. Has I'll be back with

:06:01. > :06:11.the headlines just before ten o'clock. Just spent his Back to you,

:06:11. > :06:11.

:06:11. > :07:32.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 80 seconds

:07:32. > :07:38.Sophie. Thank you, Bryony. 30th stories in all the papers about

:07:38. > :07:43.cabinet reviews and spending cuts. I have picked up a story in the front

:07:43. > :07:53.of the Observer which is about a whole set of military leaders,

:07:53. > :07:56.former chiefs of staff, generals, who are saying, do not raid the aid

:07:56. > :08:01.budget to the developing world in order to fund the Ministry of

:08:01. > :08:07.Defence because it is short-sighted folly, because contracts come out of

:08:07. > :08:10.that impoverished and. It is interesting that he our military men

:08:10. > :08:14.of great experience saying this babble about don't cut the

:08:14. > :08:19.military, is something which has to be looked at cautiously and we

:08:19. > :08:26.should not be diminishing our aid. Defence is a department going down

:08:26. > :08:33.to the wire. There is a strong viewpoint about not sending more

:08:33. > :08:39.money to poor countries. Cutting aid to foreign countries may exacerbate

:08:39. > :08:48.military conflict so it is a short-sighted solution? In one.

:08:48. > :08:52.Don't do it! We have solved that. There are lots of stories. There is

:08:52. > :09:02.a big story here in the Daily Telegraph about how that buying

:09:02. > :09:02.

:09:02. > :09:08.between ministries is taking place. Osborne, he is coming on.

:09:08. > :09:12.families' czar, Louise Casey, is wanting to maintain a large sum of

:09:12. > :09:15.money to work with problem families in our country. Part of the problem

:09:15. > :09:21.is all the ministries are saying they do not want the money to be

:09:21. > :09:25.spent in that way, they want it to be maintained in their different

:09:25. > :09:29.ministries. She is making the argument saying we have got to spend

:09:30. > :09:33.money on the poorest and most troubled families in Britain.

:09:33. > :09:37.is a good argument because otherwise there may be further rioting and

:09:37. > :09:43.then we will have to clear up the rioting. If you are not nice to two

:09:43. > :09:50.poor people they will riot. It is going to be incredibly tough. Some

:09:50. > :09:53.of these cuts, �11.5 billion of cuts and years more austerity to come.

:09:53. > :09:58.George Osborne says we are out of intensive care so it is all right

:09:58. > :10:03.then. It is also bringing up that there is a split in the Cabinet. On

:10:03. > :10:06.many arguments the Liberal Democrats take a different position from the

:10:06. > :10:13.Conservatives so it hones in on the differences. Some of the stories are

:10:13. > :10:17.about the way in which, there are divisions inside the Treasury. I

:10:17. > :10:22.have got a story about legal aid. They are trying to cut legal aid and

:10:22. > :10:27.prevent people having lawyers of their own choice. Part of that,

:10:27. > :10:32.Clegg is saying he does not want to see that. Again, battles between the

:10:32. > :10:36.Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives. It is a farcical

:10:36. > :10:44.coalition because it is full of disruption and disjointed. Most

:10:44. > :10:48.governments are about some kind of compromise. However, the divisions

:10:48. > :10:52.are becoming more clear. They will become clear up to the next election

:10:52. > :10:57.because the Liberal Democrats want to say we fought our corner.

:10:57. > :11:02.Russell, you have got a story about tax havens. I have and it is

:11:02. > :11:07.pertinent with the talks of �11.5 billion of cuts and Helena has

:11:07. > :11:13.talked about the military not wanting cuts. It turns out that our

:11:13. > :11:20.country, Britain, of which we are rightly proud, is a tax haven for

:11:20. > :11:24.dodgy shell companies. They are saying Britain is one of the easiest

:11:24. > :11:28.places in the world to set up companies which can be used for tax

:11:28. > :11:32.evasion and money-laundering, according to a study by Australian

:11:32. > :11:37.academics. I do not know that we can trust these Australian academics

:11:37. > :11:40.because they dressed up as people looking for tax havens so there was

:11:40. > :11:45.skulduggery at the offset. They do seem interesting that this country

:11:45. > :11:51.as a tax haven, plus 50% of Tory funding comes from bankers, somebody

:11:51. > :11:57.told me the other day, and of the 20 biggest donors to the Tory party, 14

:11:57. > :12:01.of them have strong associations to offshore accounts. In fact, I heard

:12:01. > :12:05.that David Cameron is known as offshore Dave in that community.

:12:05. > :12:14.whole business of tax evasion is one of the issues of our times. This

:12:14. > :12:19.spotlight is falling on it heavily. I just avoided that tax, I did not

:12:19. > :12:23.invade it. We will have to shine a spotlight on all of that. Can I just

:12:23. > :12:32.say quickly, we should not be worrying about making money of poor

:12:32. > :12:37.people, the already impoverished, there is this stuff. I imagine if

:12:37. > :12:42.Vodafone are getting a certain amount of money from British people,

:12:42. > :12:45.they should not be let off the hook. There is a story about naming and

:12:45. > :12:50.shaming everybody who is getting state benefits and to publish how

:12:50. > :12:56.much money they are getting from the state. If we are going to go after

:12:56. > :13:03.tax dodgers... A think tank is suggesting that should be done.

:13:04. > :13:09.have been on welfare. You already feel ashamed. You have to sign on.

:13:09. > :13:12.Don't name and shame them people, name and shame the tax haven people.

:13:12. > :13:17.Name and shame the people funding the Tory party who have offshore

:13:17. > :13:22.accounts. Didn't George Osborne's family have offshore accounts?

:13:22. > :13:27.can ask him later. It is a rhetorical question. There is a

:13:27. > :13:30.whole set of stories across the press about the NHS, about

:13:30. > :13:34.whistleblowers basically being threatened if they were going to

:13:34. > :13:41.make public things that were going wrong, and that terrible story about

:13:41. > :13:46.a father of a child who died, his account being that he was offered

:13:46. > :13:51.money to remain silent. This stories on the front of the Daily Telegraph

:13:51. > :13:56.and it is about basically the way in which people lose their jobs if they

:13:56. > :14:02.speak out about things in the NHS. The only worry I have is that is all

:14:02. > :14:06.across everywhere. There is no doubt there is too much secrecy around

:14:06. > :14:10.this but I cannot help worrying that it is about undermining the national

:14:10. > :14:14.health service to say it should be run in a different way and maybe

:14:14. > :14:20.private companies should be better. I am not sure that private companies

:14:20. > :14:26.are any more open and transparent. Whistleblower stories are like a

:14:26. > :14:29.prelude to saying, let's privatise the NHS further? It is one of the

:14:29. > :14:36.things we should worry about but I think we do want to listen to

:14:36. > :14:44.stories about bad things that is going on. Can you hold the paper so

:14:44. > :14:48.we can see the story about GCHQ? Whistleblower Edward Snowden has

:14:48. > :14:52.been reportedly charged with espionage. But what he has done is

:14:52. > :14:56.reveal that the Americans were spying on the Chinese. He is in Hong

:14:56. > :15:01.Kong. That is a brilliant move. It will be really hard to get over

:15:01. > :15:05.there and make him. The United States is accused of hacking China

:15:05. > :15:09.and is on the front page of the Observer. It is picked up in the

:15:10. > :15:13.other papers as well. The extent to which this is absolutely global, and

:15:13. > :15:18.you can be sure that the United States has been hacking into

:15:18. > :15:23.China's calls, China is doing the same to other folk as well. There is

:15:23. > :15:32.a general sense in the public that why not, if this is going to keep

:15:32. > :15:34.the world a secure place? What do you reckon? I don't like it. I do

:15:35. > :15:38.not like that Edward Snowden reveals information and the person who gets

:15:38. > :15:43.into trouble as the person who reveals the information. Does it

:15:43. > :15:47.bother you, the notion of being spied on? Of course it does.

:15:47. > :15:50.Initially they will say we are doing this to protect you from terrorism,

:15:50. > :15:55.we are the government. But any time they are annoyed about anything,

:15:55. > :16:00.they will be snooping around. Any kind of anti-authoritative stance

:16:00. > :16:03.will be met with further snooping. I do not trust the government. I do

:16:03. > :16:10.not want them looking at my e-mails. Some of them are very

:16:10. > :16:19.smutty. I am not sure we want to look at them! We are running out of

:16:19. > :16:22.time. Let's have a quick look at the story about protests. Ed Balls have

:16:22. > :16:31.come out. That means we are doing well. He is literally in the

:16:31. > :16:38.shadows. There is a story about Brazil. It spiralled from a row

:16:38. > :16:41.about public transport. I remember when I used to get on buses. It was

:16:41. > :16:45.annoying because sometimes they would not give you change. But the

:16:45. > :16:50.people of Brazil have risen up en masse and are confronting the

:16:50. > :16:55.authorities. They are browned off and they are kicking off and it is

:16:55. > :16:59.happening all over the world. true that Brazil was one of those

:16:59. > :17:05.countries which was seen as having survived the global crisis but they

:17:05. > :17:13.are now facing recession to some extent themselves. It means the

:17:13. > :17:20.middle classes as well as the poor are feeling the impact. People are

:17:20. > :17:27.recognising that class divisions are irrelevant. Everyone is becoming

:17:27. > :17:32.affected. That is the story in the observer. It is not just confined to

:17:33. > :17:38.Brazil, it is happening globally. our country it is happening. I need

:17:38. > :17:43.to ask you one more question, Brazil on your tour? I am here to promote

:17:43. > :17:48.it. Even I am a bit sneaky. You are not going to the Middle East any

:17:48. > :17:54.more, are you? I want to go but they cannot guarantee that they will not

:17:54. > :18:00.kill me. Death is inevitable. I would go but I'm going to loads of

:18:00. > :18:05.other places. Follow me on twitter. Promotion to the end! Thank you,

:18:05. > :18:10.both of you. It is great kind of you to come in. Thank you for having us.

:18:10. > :18:15.You are much better looking in real life! Here we go! Onto the weather.

:18:15. > :18:25.It is officially summer but we are waiting for the weather to catch up

:18:25. > :18:32.

:18:32. > :18:36.gorgeous. There is a chilly wind and heavy showers. We have seen the sun

:18:36. > :18:46.in one or two places in southern England. There is some persistent

:18:46. > :18:48.

:18:48. > :18:53.rain across northern Scotland which will make for a dismal day here. We

:18:54. > :19:02.have persistent rain across north-east Scotland. A big contrast

:19:02. > :19:09.here. North-east England and south-east Scotland are prone to

:19:09. > :19:14.some heavy thundery showers. Temperatures may scrape up to 18

:19:14. > :19:23.degrees across some south-eastern parts. Some showers for Wales but

:19:23. > :19:28.not as many for south-west England. We will see some sunshine and dry

:19:28. > :19:32.weather. That is the trend for the week ahead. Increasing amounts of

:19:32. > :19:42.sunshine. It will gradually turn warmer. Leave it or not, it looks

:19:42. > :20:12.

:20:12. > :20:19.like turning better for the first Good morning. You will stick to

:20:19. > :20:25.these plans 100%. On current spending, excluding capital, that

:20:25. > :20:30.is what we will do. We will inherit a very difficult situation. The

:20:30. > :20:36.Chancellor's plans have not worked. Far from healing, the economy has

:20:36. > :20:40.been flatlining for three years. We will have to make very difficult

:20:40. > :20:45.decisions. There is no point in saying we want to spend more. We

:20:45. > :20:50.will have to find different ways to make different choices to deliver a

:20:50. > :20:55.strong economy and a fair society which Labour stands for in very

:20:55. > :21:00.difficult times. With that include borrowing more to spend more on

:21:00. > :21:04.capital spending? We have said, two years ahead, we do not know where

:21:04. > :21:10.we will be. I am expecting to have a big deficit and therefore we will

:21:10. > :21:15.be matching their plans. Which you borrow more? For this year and next

:21:15. > :21:18.year, the Chancellor should do a �10 million boost for houses and

:21:18. > :21:23.road building to get the economy growing. If you get more tax

:21:23. > :21:29.revenues coming in, you'll get the deficit down and ease the pressure

:21:29. > :21:33.on spending cuts. I cannot say to you where we will be in two years'

:21:33. > :21:40.time. If there is still a case for capital investment, we will make

:21:40. > :21:44.the case. On day-to-day spending, we will be very tough. You are

:21:44. > :21:48.leaving open the door. Even in the first year you are leaving the door

:21:48. > :21:55.open to possibly borrow more money in order to spend it on big

:21:55. > :22:02.projects to encourage growth. chance there will be borrowing �96

:22:02. > :22:07.billion. He has said he will borrow 18 but he is borrowing 96. Living

:22:07. > :22:16.standards are falling. I am asking what you are doing. You could

:22:16. > :22:20.borrow more money to spend on big projects use they will benefit the

:22:20. > :22:25.economy. -- you say. We will inherit a weak economy with high

:22:25. > :22:30.levels of borrowing. I want to get the deficit coming down. We are

:22:30. > :22:34.saying we will have to make changes within their plans. On capital

:22:34. > :22:38.spending, we are saying, this year and next year the Chancellor should

:22:38. > :22:42.be investigating getting the economy growing. I'm not going to

:22:43. > :22:47.save what the judgment will be. We will wait until nearer the time. Do

:22:47. > :22:52.I think there will be a case in two years' time to invest in roads and

:22:52. > :22:57.infrastructure and get the economy moving and the deficit down? Yes.

:22:57. > :23:01.That will mean you have to borrow more. The economics of this is

:23:01. > :23:07.important to explain. The Chancellor said three years ago, he,

:23:07. > :23:11.by cutting faster, would get the deficit down as he would get growth.

:23:11. > :23:17.We have been in intensive care for three years because the plan failed.

:23:17. > :23:23.He is borrowing billions more. I am saying, rather than focusing on

:23:23. > :23:27.cuts two years ahead, why doesn't he act now on growth? The

:23:27. > :23:32.International Monetary Fund said to borrow �10 billion now. I am trying

:23:32. > :23:39.to clarify. For people who want to vote Labour, they want to know what

:23:39. > :23:46.you're going to do. You have left the door open on borrowing for

:23:46. > :23:51.capital projects. Yes, or no, you could borrow? The reason is, if

:23:51. > :23:55.living standards are still falling and youth unemployment is still

:23:55. > :24:01.high, if there is a case on the infrastructure to get things moving

:24:01. > :24:04.with low interest rates, there is a case to do that. If George Osborne

:24:04. > :24:11.had done at last year and a year before, we would not have had such

:24:11. > :24:18.a flatlining economy. From 2016, we know what you'll do on the

:24:18. > :24:24.Chancellor's spending plans. Beyond that, the Chancellor has pencilled

:24:24. > :24:28.in for further cuts. Do you think you will do that or spend again?

:24:28. > :24:33.The position for the next Labour government will be very different

:24:33. > :24:36.from the past Labour government. We will want to make our society

:24:36. > :24:42.fairer and get living standards and rising. We will be spending less

:24:42. > :24:48.and not more. I cannot say to you were we will be on the economy. We

:24:48. > :24:54.were hearing in the paper review, look around the world - falling

:24:54. > :24:59.stock markets, Brazil, Turkey, the China slow down, I am fearful we

:24:59. > :25:05.will be in for a difficult few years. Do I think after 2015/16,

:25:05. > :25:12.the next Labour there will be making very difficult decisions?

:25:12. > :25:18.Yes. Will it be cutting the top rate of tax for millionaires? No.

:25:18. > :25:25.Will we be introducing a mansion tax to get living standards rising?

:25:25. > :25:31.I hope they can do that. You look back to 2010, bute gave a speech

:25:31. > :25:35.and you talked about the coalition spending plans. -- UK. He said they

:25:35. > :25:42.were unsafe for public services and deeply unfair. I knew accepting

:25:42. > :25:51.that what the Chancellor has done is right? -- are you accepting?

:25:52. > :25:56.have had a wasted and damaging two years. It is deeply unfair what he

:25:56. > :26:01.has done. Cutting taxes for the richest people but hitting the more

:26:01. > :26:07.vulnerable people in society with the bedroom tax. Living standards

:26:07. > :26:13.are down for families. The deficit rose and the national debt is

:26:13. > :26:17.rising. We will inherit a difficult inheritance. The plan has failed on

:26:17. > :26:24.growth and deficit. You are now going to accept the cuts and say

:26:24. > :26:29.you'll stick with them. There is no point in me denying the reality of

:26:29. > :26:33.the situation we will face in two years' time. We will come into

:26:33. > :26:38.government in 2015 if people give us their trust. They have been told

:26:38. > :26:43.this government would get rid of the deficit but it will be huge.

:26:43. > :26:52.The economy I fear will be weak and long-term unemployment high.

:26:52. > :27:00.Investment scissors not made and the global situation very bad. Can

:27:00. > :27:05.I say we will make things better? And cannot say that. I would have

:27:05. > :27:12.to clear up the economic mess. Everyone who wants to support

:27:12. > :27:17.Labour is crying out for new hope and new direction. Not everyone

:27:18. > :27:21.will agree with what I am saying. There are people in the Labour

:27:22. > :27:27.Party and Conservative Party. I am being very straight and honest with

:27:27. > :27:30.people. I am not going to make promises I cannot keep. We can do

:27:30. > :27:37.things in a different way on growth and fairness but we will have to

:27:37. > :27:41.make cuts. Not everyone will like that. It is the real world of these

:27:41. > :27:47.years of failure from David Cameron and George Osborne. A high deficit,

:27:48. > :27:51.not coming down. A national deficit rising year upon year. Public

:27:51. > :27:57.sector workers will have to accept pay freezes again. The capsule will

:27:57. > :28:02.have to bring in will be just as painful, weren't they? -- the cats.

:28:02. > :28:08.George Osborne will act now. Unless he can get people back into work,

:28:08. > :28:14.we say have a bank bonus tax to get people into jobs. We would have a

:28:14. > :28:19.very difficult inheritance and a very big deficit. We can do things

:28:19. > :28:23.differently. There will be an emphasis on education and the jobs

:28:23. > :28:29.guarantee for young people. Tackling tax avoidance. If I said

:28:29. > :28:35.there would not be cuts, I do not think people would believe me.

:28:35. > :28:40.about the older voters - people and pensioners? You have opened up that

:28:40. > :28:47.debate. Half of welfare goes on people over the age of 60. That is

:28:47. > :28:55.an important debate that has to be had at some point. What about

:28:55. > :29:00.pension spending? Is it included in your welfare cap? The Chancellor

:29:00. > :29:07.has not announced this. It needs to look across all social security and

:29:07. > :29:12.welfare spending. Over the next 30, 40 years, we have supported

:29:13. > :29:17.measures. People are living longer and we will have to work longer. We

:29:17. > :29:23.will have to work for the next few years. We will support the

:29:24. > :29:29.Government on the triple-lock. The Tory scares about pension spending

:29:29. > :29:34.are nonsense. I will give you one example we will do in government.

:29:34. > :29:39.We will say, the cannot justify paying back to the richest

:29:39. > :29:47.pensioners paying over �40,000 when the NHS is under such pressure and

:29:47. > :29:52.living standards are falling. They are cutting taxes for millionaires.

:29:52. > :29:56.What about pensions? Are you going to cap them? There has been a

:29:56. > :30:01.debate about how you make sure pensions spending over the next 40,

:30:01. > :30:06.50 years is affordable. That is why the pension age is rising above 65

:30:06. > :30:11.in the next 15 years which we have supported. There is a debate be had

:30:11. > :30:15.about whether or not we have long term affordability in pensions.

:30:15. > :30:19.There have been difficult reforms in public sector pensions which

:30:19. > :30:27.have been supported by the trade unions after negotiation. We are

:30:27. > :30:32.all facing up to difficult decisions. It sound like you are

:30:32. > :30:37.looking at capping pensions. It is not possible to have a debate about

:30:37. > :30:40.affordability and avoided almost half of spending that goes to

:30:40. > :30:44.people over 60. People of my generation or the younger

:30:44. > :30:49.generation are going to work longer than our parents and grandparents.

:30:49. > :30:53.That is all about making pension spending affordability. In the

:30:53. > :30:56.short-term, ignore the Tory scares. We will make sure the pension rises

:30:56. > :31:06.are properly protected and will make the difficult decision on the

:31:06. > :31:31.

:31:31. > :31:35.winter and as for the richest about existing pensioners but the

:31:36. > :31:38.next generation of working people will end up working longer and that

:31:38. > :31:44.will be necessary for affordability and so we can be better off in

:31:44. > :31:50.retirement. A lot of the problems in the spending review is because so

:31:50. > :31:54.much of it is ring fenced. Will you continue ring fencing the NHS?

:31:54. > :31:59.will make decisions in our manifesto on those things. The last government

:31:59. > :32:02.said they would cut inheritance tax and they didn't. It loses trust in

:32:02. > :32:09.politics, people breaking promises, so I'm not going to make promises

:32:09. > :32:15.now. We will always support spending rising in the NHS and its likely all

:32:15. > :32:22.parties will prioritise it. VAT, temporary cut. Is that still going

:32:22. > :32:26.ahead? No, because George Osborne has got his head in the sand.

:32:26. > :32:32.not talk about George Osborne but would you do that? Today in

:32:32. > :32:37.government wish to mark after the election. I you still planning to

:32:37. > :32:41.bring in a temporary VAT cut? speech two weeks ago, I said today

:32:41. > :32:44.and for the last three years, to get the economy moving... Today is

:32:44. > :32:50.irrelevant because you're not Chancellor. I'm asking what you

:32:50. > :32:53.would do in 2015. It's not irrelevant because the argument is

:32:53. > :32:58.important. If George Osborne had done this two years ago, we would be

:32:58. > :33:05.in a better place. Over the next year, if recovery takes hold, as I

:33:05. > :33:11.hope it will, I said last week, two weeks ago, the balance of advantage

:33:11. > :33:14.will shift from a VAT cut, which is what we would've done to long-term

:33:15. > :33:19.capital investment, as the best way to keep the economy growing. Do I

:33:19. > :33:23.expect a VAT cut to be part of our manifesto in two years time? Of

:33:23. > :33:28.course not. To be honest, we advocated for a year and a half

:33:29. > :33:34.longer than I expected because George Osborne's failure has been so

:33:34. > :33:37.catastrophic. Will he admit to that today? I very much doubt it.

:33:37. > :33:41.Balls, we must leave it there. Thanks very much. When one of the

:33:41. > :33:43.most iconic TV stars in the world joins forces with one of theatre's

:33:43. > :33:47.finest directors to revive an edgy American play, the expectations are

:33:47. > :33:50.sky high. Kim Cattrall, who got all the best lines in the sizzling

:33:50. > :33:52.series Sex and the City, is back on stage in London. The Tennessee

:33:52. > :33:55.Williams classic, Sweet Bird of Youth, sees her teamed with

:33:55. > :33:58.director, Marianne Elliott, the woman behind mammoth hits such as

:33:58. > :34:06.War Horse. The play is set in the oppressive Deep South of 1950s

:34:06. > :34:12.America. Cattrall plays a fading film star, Alexandra Del Lago. She's

:34:12. > :34:17.on the run from a faltering career and also from the ageing process.

:34:17. > :34:23.Chance, you have gone past something you can't afford to go past. Time,

:34:23. > :34:30.use, you've passed it. Who the hell is talking? Look in the mirror.

:34:30. > :34:36.do you see? I see Alexandra Del Lago, artist and star. Now it's your

:34:36. > :34:39.turn. You look and what do you see? Well, I met both actress and

:34:39. > :34:42.director at the Old Vic last week Kim Cattrall began by discussing why

:34:42. > :34:51.the theme of women and ageing encouraged them both to collaborate

:34:51. > :34:55.on this production. We were brought together to do this project and I

:34:55. > :35:00.think we were both frightened of it and attracted to it because it was

:35:01. > :35:08.talking about issues that are near and dear to me and things I'm

:35:08. > :35:17.actually dealing with in real life. And to me. I've got ten years on

:35:17. > :35:25.you, baby. It's really, rarely talked about. Or portrayed, expect

:35:25. > :35:30.that except in a 1-dimensional way. I think what is going on, with

:35:31. > :35:35.ageing in the world now, it's very negative. This anti-ageing clinics,

:35:35. > :35:39.to eradicate, I suppose. She's in a very vulnerable place when we first

:35:39. > :35:43.meet her. She has emphysema and is travelling with someone she doesn't

:35:44. > :35:52.really know, who she's picked up, and he's taken her on this journey.

:35:52. > :35:56.She's a sex addict. She's addicted to alcohol. And drugs. She wakes up

:35:56. > :36:02.in a hotel room, doesn't know where she is, who he is or what is

:36:02. > :36:08.happening. She arrives with Chance Wayne, who is struggling with his

:36:08. > :36:13.own age even know his 29. Yes, it's nearly 30, and for him, that's a big

:36:13. > :36:18.deal, I suppose because he was once the star of the time. It was a lot

:36:18. > :36:23.of potential ahead of him. He had amazing good looks and was an actor

:36:23. > :36:27.and was getting parts in Hollywood and doing really well. But then it

:36:28. > :36:32.all started to dry up and he started to realise he was losing his looks,

:36:32. > :36:37.so his greatest commodity, I suppose, was slipping away from him.

:36:37. > :36:41.He wasn't achieving things he wanted to achieve. You play these terribly

:36:41. > :36:47.strong women but you strike me as somebody, the older you get, the

:36:47. > :36:52.more confident and more bold you get. This places and negatives,

:36:52. > :36:58.you're letting go of something and hopefully embracing something else.

:36:59. > :37:02.It is in that letting go and embracing that the conflict occurs.

:37:02. > :37:07.It had a girls name? It's the name of the daughter of the biggest

:37:07. > :37:12.political deal in this part of the country. Heavenly is a beautiful

:37:12. > :37:16.young girl in her 20s crossing paths with me, and every night I get to

:37:16. > :37:19.see that and even talking about it now it gives me chills because it's

:37:20. > :37:23.something that is not there any more. I can't reach for it but I

:37:23. > :37:30.long for it, I long for the energy of it, the adventure of it, the

:37:30. > :37:37.unknown of it. But that's passed for me as well as Alexandra Del Lago.

:37:38. > :37:42.hope that's what the play addresses because you get it in your business,

:37:42. > :37:45.as well. You have lost your validity as you get older as a woman. I think

:37:45. > :37:50.every woman feels like that, actually, because we are in a youth

:37:50. > :37:56.culture. It worships youth and the way we look and how virile you are,

:37:56. > :38:00.that's what the play absolutely addresses. Alexandra Del Lago is an

:38:00. > :38:06.absolutely extraordinary likeable woman. But she doesn't feel like she

:38:06. > :38:11.is. She lives in a world which celebrates youth and looks. In terms

:38:11. > :38:17.of your job now, director, you have done incredibly well in recent

:38:17. > :38:20.years, but you can still count on one hand female directors who are a

:38:20. > :38:24.success. You never thought when you started out, you would make little

:38:24. > :38:28.top director because you went to man. Absolutely, I just assumed you

:38:28. > :38:34.had to be male, yes. That wasn't that long ago, it's quite shocking,

:38:34. > :38:38.isn't it? Is it changing for women in roles because the old you get in

:38:38. > :38:43.Hollywood there's the whole thing about our youth are not going to get

:38:43. > :38:52.the parts? Is it just an industry for young people? Is it changing?

:38:52. > :38:55.No, the only way it is changing is that women who like myself

:38:55. > :39:02.fortunately can produce their own projects or instigate them to get

:39:02. > :39:12.them going, because when I turned 35 the amount of scripts I was sent was

:39:12. > :39:12.

:39:12. > :39:17.cut in half automatically. Yeah, I was just so... Sex in the

:39:17. > :39:21.city, playing a character in her 40s and sexualised and empowered in

:39:21. > :39:27.those things was really a one-off situation. Very, very unusual, so I

:39:27. > :39:32.feel, still come at this age that I'm learning and that, I feel, is

:39:32. > :39:40.the anti-ageing potion, not a clinic somewhere, Botox, something like

:39:40. > :39:44.that. Not that there's anything If you want a hot sex life, you must

:39:44. > :39:51.turn up heat. You're famous role was a man stuff. How did it change the

:39:51. > :39:56.way we look at older woman? I hope drastically. In a positive way, I

:39:56. > :39:59.was frightened myself, you know, at 41, I turned the role down

:39:59. > :40:09.consecutively because I just didn't feel that I could pull it off. Why

:40:09. > :40:10.

:40:10. > :40:15.not? I felt I was past it. I did. But that was 1997. That's how much

:40:15. > :40:24.things have changed, which I think is very exciting. I just sort of

:40:24. > :40:28.felt, can I be this sexual animal? How will that make me feel? So I was

:40:29. > :40:33.suffering, I think from ages on myself, and thinking, oh no, but

:40:33. > :40:41.now, of course, I don't feel that at all. Just getting warmed up! There

:40:41. > :40:43.you go. The British economy is out of intensive care. Those were the

:40:43. > :40:52.Chancellor's words last week. A sign, perhaps, that he expects

:40:52. > :40:55.growth to pick up soon. It is the lack of growth over the past three

:40:55. > :40:58.years that has killed his plan to eliminate the deficit during this

:40:58. > :41:01.Parliament. And that means several more years of austerity to come. On

:41:01. > :41:04.Wednesday, the Chancellor will set out the next round of cuts that each

:41:04. > :41:09.government department must make. George Osborne is with me now. Good

:41:09. > :41:12.morning. As that of intensive care, have we turned a corner? I think we

:41:12. > :41:18.are moving from rescue to recovery and you can see that because the

:41:18. > :41:22.economy is growing, the debt is coming down, a record number of

:41:22. > :41:25.people are in work. They're still going to be, of course, challenges

:41:25. > :41:28.because the current problems Britain built up over many years are

:41:28. > :41:33.considerable. You can see what's happening elsewhere in the world,

:41:33. > :41:36.but I think we are out of intensive care and the job now is to secure

:41:36. > :41:43.the recovery and I'm confident we can turn the country around. Green

:41:43. > :41:47.shoots out there? We have got to stick at the plan, the economic plan

:41:47. > :41:52.which is reducing the debts, making businesses more competitive, helping

:41:53. > :41:56.to create jobs, making sure Britain can win the global race. There's no

:41:56. > :42:02.chance you've said we are out of intensive care, there's no chance of

:42:02. > :42:06.relapse? There certainly is if we abandon economic plan. If Britain

:42:07. > :42:10.suddenly said, we don't have the confidence to deal with our debts,

:42:10. > :42:14.we're not prepared to confront our problems, then we would go back into

:42:14. > :42:18.intensive care and that's what this week is all about, making sure we

:42:18. > :42:22.can secure the recovery and we will go on taking the difficult

:42:22. > :42:25.decisions. Go on cutting back spending. Go on prioritising

:42:25. > :42:30.spending on the things which help the economy and cutting the spending

:42:30. > :42:32.that doesn't. That's what we have got to go on doing. You have set

:42:32. > :42:40.great store about a deficit reduction but at the moment, it's

:42:40. > :42:44.remaining flat. The deficit is down by a third. But the last two years,

:42:44. > :42:49.and possibly by the end of this year, it's basically stuck around

:42:49. > :42:53.120 billion. When I came into office we were borrowing 159 billion, so

:42:53. > :42:57.yes, we have made a substantial progress but the deficit is still

:42:57. > :43:00.too high. We have got to bring it down. It's higher than many other

:43:00. > :43:04.countries because we started from such a high place in the first

:43:04. > :43:10.place. Of course, we have got to go on keeping the pressure on,

:43:10. > :43:15.government spending, making sure the country earns its way in the world.

:43:15. > :43:19.It's incredibly challenging for you and you have 17 departments and how

:43:19. > :43:23.many of them have you settled lives? We have made a lot of progress. It

:43:24. > :43:26.hasn't finished as of Sunday morning. We are finalising the

:43:26. > :43:30.details but I can tell you today I have settled the defence Department

:43:30. > :43:35.which people thought was going to be one of the biggest and most

:43:35. > :43:39.difficult challenges so I have agreed with Philip Hammond a defence

:43:40. > :43:45.budget, which will involve tough choices, the civilian headcount will

:43:45. > :43:49.have to produce. We will have to renegotiate some of our big

:43:49. > :43:53.suppliers on contracts, but there will not be a reduction in military

:43:53. > :43:58.credibility, and we won't reduce the numbers of sailors, soldiers and

:43:58. > :44:04.airmen. In fact, we can spend more money on things like the new

:44:04. > :44:08.frontier in defence, cyber. Plenty people are worried you will break

:44:08. > :44:12.the military covenant. Can you guarantee you won't do that? I can

:44:12. > :44:15.absolute guarantee that and I can do more. We are dealing with people of

:44:15. > :44:19.comeback from wars in Afghanistan and Iraq with horrific injuries,

:44:19. > :44:24.they have recovered from his injuries, and I want to make sure as

:44:24. > :44:28.a society we don't forget about these people after the war is over.

:44:28. > :44:33.We are committing for the rest of these people's lives, to support the

:44:33. > :44:37.military covenant, to support them, to go on spending �10 million a year

:44:37. > :44:41.on these causes. We can do this, in part, because we are using the money

:44:41. > :44:46.we have taken off bankers involved in the libel scandal. People who

:44:47. > :44:51.demonstrated the worst of the scandals in the city are now

:44:51. > :44:59.supporting those who demonstrated the best of the values, the

:45:00. > :45:03.shoulders who gave so much to defend our country. What about business? We

:45:03. > :45:08.haven't sorted it out as of this morning but I'm confident we will do

:45:08. > :45:12.it. There's not a massive argument. Of course, we're arguing about the

:45:12. > :45:16.smaller details but not the big picture. And, actually: Vince Cable

:45:16. > :45:22.and I want to achieve the same things, which is backing the

:45:22. > :45:25.economy, and I want to see science supported. That's part of this

:45:25. > :45:30.budget. Britain leads the way in science and that all about Britain

:45:30. > :45:33.that was economic future. Why is it so close to the wire? It's three

:45:33. > :45:37.days away for them he must be digging his heels in because you

:45:37. > :45:41.have sort of a defence which we knew was going to be problematic. There

:45:41. > :45:44.is still three days away and it hasn't been sorted? I thought about

:45:44. > :45:48.defence last night so these things are finished with a few days to go

:45:48. > :45:52.to the spending round. Actually, in the past, these things often done

:45:52. > :46:02.the night before. I'm confident we have got the deal and everybody in

:46:02. > :46:07.

:46:07. > :46:10.the Cabinet knows to go on delivering the economy plan, make

:46:10. > :46:13.those savings and so, I'm absolutely clear we can deliver this plan, we

:46:13. > :46:15.will have the �11.5 billion worth of savings and we will do it in a way

:46:15. > :46:18.which prioritises services people care about, the things which support

:46:18. > :46:28.our economy and the things which make sure we can live in a world and

:46:28. > :46:41.

:46:41. > :46:47.There is a huge squeeze on the rest, as you well know. Those ring

:46:47. > :46:51.fences will not stay in place? are called ring fences in Whitehall

:46:51. > :46:57.but what they are really about is the public's priorities. I suspect

:46:57. > :47:01.we could talk to the audience watching the show now, they would

:47:01. > :47:07.want us to be supporting the NHS and schools. Many people in our country

:47:07. > :47:16.want us to honour our commitments to the world. Poorest is. We will at

:47:16. > :47:26.salute you do that. We call them ring fences but they are the

:47:26. > :47:32.public's priorities. I think they would want us to be spending money

:47:32. > :47:36.on the NHS and education. I am pretty clear they are the public's

:47:36. > :47:40.priorities, they are my priorities and if you look at things like the

:47:40. > :47:49.NHS, if you look at education and also the police, I remember sitting

:47:49. > :47:55.in this chair a couple of years ago, saying if you make any savings

:47:55. > :47:58.and cut at its, crime will go up. But crime has come down. There has

:47:58. > :48:06.been quite a lot of scaremongering about the choices we have had to

:48:06. > :48:12.make. If we look three years on, we will get quality public services.

:48:12. > :48:18.you continue those ring fences it becomes very unbalanced. The other

:48:18. > :48:23.issue I was talking to Ed Balls about was pensions, people over 60.

:48:23. > :48:27.How can you justify in these austere times still allowing wealthy

:48:27. > :48:30.pensioners the winter fuel allowance? First of all, Ed Balls,

:48:30. > :48:37.after five questions from you, finally admitted he would borrow

:48:37. > :48:41.more. We know that but I am asking you. After all the nonsense of

:48:41. > :48:45.labour learning the lessons of what went wrong on their watch, they

:48:45. > :48:54.would still borrow more. On pension benefits, including the winter fuel

:48:54. > :48:59.allowance, we made a very clear promise and we believe in keeping

:48:59. > :49:03.our promises to the British people. Second, when it comes to pension

:49:03. > :49:07.benefits, our society is getting older. We will be spending more on

:49:07. > :49:12.our older people. I want to make sure that is sustainable. What about

:49:12. > :49:17.the next Parliament? I am the Chancellor who increased the pension

:49:17. > :49:23.age. It was a very difficult thing to do and was not supported at the

:49:23. > :49:27.time. All of those pension benefits, not the basic state pension, we have

:49:27. > :49:33.got to look at how we can afford them. I think the simplest thing we

:49:33. > :49:38.can do is increase the pension age as we have done and set out those

:49:38. > :49:42.increases to 66 or 67. I do not want pensioners to be impoverished. I

:49:42. > :49:46.want them to have a standard of living that reflect the fact they

:49:46. > :49:50.have worked hard and saved hard all their life. I would focus on the

:49:50. > :49:54.fact that we are living longer than try to cut the benefits which go to

:49:54. > :49:59.pensioners. But you are still open to the fact that at the next

:49:59. > :50:03.election, if you're still empower, wealthy pensioners could lose some

:50:03. > :50:06.of those benefits. We all have to consider the promises we make for

:50:06. > :50:11.the next Parliament. Having looked at the way we have behaved in this

:50:11. > :50:17.Parliament, we have made sure this country can afford the budget. That

:50:17. > :50:22.is what you will get with us. You will get people who deliver credible

:50:22. > :50:27.economic plans to secure the recovery. Let's talk about RBS. They

:50:27. > :50:32.are quite likely now to be split up into a good bank and a bad bank?

:50:32. > :50:36.That is something we are looking at. There is a big debate about whether

:50:36. > :50:39.RBS is too slow in recovering, whether it is doing enough to

:50:39. > :50:43.support the British economy. It lends more to small businesses than

:50:43. > :50:48.any other bank so it is very important. We are saying maybe there

:50:48. > :50:52.is a case for taking away the bad loans of the past, so they can focus

:50:53. > :50:58.on lending in the future. We will have a new Chief Executive. We are

:50:58. > :51:03.absolutely clear that RBS will not be some global bank, and massive

:51:03. > :51:08.investment bank, it will be focused on Britain. This is why Stephen

:51:08. > :51:13.Hester had to go, isn't it? He has been working so hard to sell it off

:51:13. > :51:18.as one entire bank, he would never have countenanced that, he had to

:51:18. > :51:25.go, didn't he? Stephen Hester chose to go. People say you encouraged

:51:26. > :51:30.it. It had my consent and approval. I am representing the taxpayer, I am

:51:30. > :51:35.representing the people who worked hard and put �60 billion or more of

:51:35. > :51:38.their own money into the banks. I think the public want RBS to be a

:51:38. > :51:42.British bank supporting British business and British families.

:51:42. > :51:47.public want to know when they will get their money back. Do you think

:51:47. > :51:49.they will get their money back from RBS and Lloyds before the next

:51:50. > :51:54.election? I'm confident we will start getting money back from

:51:54. > :52:00.Lloyds, so we will start to sell Lloyd's in a way which will reduce

:52:00. > :52:04.our national debt. Lloyds is in a good shape. There is a lot of

:52:04. > :52:07.progress there. I and the first person who wants to make sure we are

:52:07. > :52:11.reducing our debts. We will have to leave it there. Thank you. Now the

:52:11. > :52:14.news headlines. The Chancellor of the Exchequer has

:52:14. > :52:19.told this programme that the British economy is out of intensive care,

:52:19. > :52:23.but he said economic recovery would only be secured by sticking to his

:52:23. > :52:26.plan to get rid of the deficit. George Osborne will announce on

:52:26. > :52:33.Wednesday the results of his spending review, J setting budgets

:52:33. > :52:38.for each department. George Osborne confirmed the Ministry of Defence

:52:38. > :52:44.has been the latest department to settle its budget. The shadow

:52:44. > :52:50.chancellor Ed Balls said Labour would stick to spending limits but

:52:50. > :52:52.there could be a case for Labour to borrow more money to fund

:52:52. > :52:56.infrastructure all projects such as building new roads.

:52:56. > :52:59.The former intelligence analyst Edward Snowden has left Hong Kong.

:53:00. > :53:04.American authorities had been seeking his extradition from the

:53:04. > :53:11.region on charges of espionage and theft. The Hong Kong government said

:53:11. > :53:16.he departed legally voluntarily boarding a plane to a third country.

:53:16. > :53:22.The South China Post reported he may be on his way to Moscow but his

:53:22. > :53:26.final destination may be Ecuador or Iceland. That is all from me. Back

:53:27. > :53:31.to Sophie and guests in a moment but first a look at what is coming up

:53:31. > :53:39.after this programme. We debate whether Ian Brady has the

:53:40. > :53:45.right to die. And Brighton seeks to prevent another betting shop from

:53:45. > :53:50.opening. The Chancellor is still with me. We

:53:50. > :53:55.have been joined by Ed Balls and Sharleen Spiteri, the lead singer

:53:55. > :54:02.with the band Texas and you are back with a new album, 25 years after

:54:02. > :54:09.your debut. It is extraordinary. cannot be 25 years. I keep saying

:54:09. > :54:13.that. It is 25 years since our first concert at Dundee University, in the

:54:13. > :54:18.bar, not even on the big stage. It was a while ago and here we are,

:54:18. > :54:25.still doing it. I feel very privileged and making music and

:54:26. > :54:30.people are interested. Chancellor, I am sorry to do this to you, singing

:54:30. > :54:36.is not your thing. Not really!You have been making the headlines with

:54:36. > :54:44.another Osborne. We cannot tempt you. He asked you to do a duet.

:54:44. > :54:50.on, George. I cannot sing and he has asked me for a game of golf and I

:54:50. > :54:54.cannot play golf. It is not going very well, this new friendship. That

:54:54. > :54:58.is the cool Osborne. It is not easy when someone gets your name wrong to

:54:58. > :55:02.correct them, particularly when it is the president of the United

:55:02. > :55:12.States. It is nice to be first nine terms with him even if he sometimes

:55:12. > :55:16.

:55:16. > :55:23.get the name wrong! What about you, Sharleen, something? He has

:55:23. > :55:28.certainly enjoyed it, this week, hasn't he? He changed his Wikipedia

:55:28. > :55:31.page to say he was the chancellor of the exchequer. Sharleen, I will let

:55:31. > :55:38.you get ready because you are going to play us out. On a more serious

:55:38. > :55:44.note, I guess you did not think you would be sat next Ed Balls adopting

:55:44. > :55:47.your spending plans. I am not sure that he has stopped we have won this

:55:47. > :55:52.argument that Britain has two live within its means, the deficit has

:55:52. > :55:57.come down and labour is very confused about how it will present

:55:57. > :56:01.this argument but the bottom line is he says he wants to borrow more.

:56:01. > :56:04.Just say you want to borrow more. The problem is that George said in

:56:04. > :56:09.the autumn statement that the deficit would come down and it went

:56:09. > :56:13.up. He's not even getting the deficit down. I think he should quit

:56:13. > :56:18.this Chancellor game and come marathon running with me and you,

:56:18. > :56:23.Sophie! We will sign him up for next year. You cannot play golf and you

:56:23. > :56:29.cannot sing, can you run? I do do running in the park but I have not

:56:29. > :56:34.taken on a marathon yet. I will probably stick with sponsoring you.

:56:34. > :56:44.Letting you run the marathon is for me. You two can discuss that. I will

:56:44. > :56:51.

:56:51. > :56:58.rock n roll. # Let's anew at sunset, life with a lot more soul. # Well, I

:56:58. > :57:03.know you spend a lot of time alone in your head.

:57:03. > :57:06.# Remember what you said. # I never thought you'd be so easily

:57:06. > :57:13.lead. # One million lights, they're

:57:13. > :57:19.burning our eyes til the morning. # Run for our lives as you watch all

:57:19. > :57:29.the cars on the freeway. # And you said I-I come from Detroit

:57:29. > :57:32.

:57:32. > :57:38.City. # I, I'm hard to satisfy. # And I

:57:38. > :57:43.want someone like you, you look so pretty.

:57:43. > :57:53.# In Detroit City. # You said you got some on the city again, its

:57:53. > :57:58.

:57:58. > :58:01.dreams. # play records in the heat while the

:58:01. > :58:08.siren screams. # I couldn't believe someone like me

:58:08. > :58:12.would leave you so weak. # We're dancing in the streets. # You know

:58:12. > :58:20.we don't need no sleep. # One million lights, they're

:58:21. > :58:24.burning our eyes til the morning. # Run for our lives as we watch all

:58:24. > :58:34.the cars on the freeway. # And you said I, I come from

:58:34. > :58:38.