:00:40. > :00:44.half the week waiting for a pair of hospital doors open, I promise to
:00:44. > :00:48.raise the curtain a bit quicker today. Amid such positive news, not
:00:48. > :00:53.just the royal baby, but sport, the weather, the economy, we will try
:00:53. > :00:58.not to spoil the mood. No guarantees, though! Joining me for a
:00:58. > :01:02.review of the newspaper, Trevor Phillips, formerly of the Equality
:01:02. > :01:06.and Human Rights Commission, and Beth Rigby of the Financial Times.
:01:06. > :01:09.0.6% may not sound a lot, but the growth figures came as music to the
:01:09. > :01:13.ears of government ministers who have been anxiously awaiting proof
:01:13. > :01:18.that the economy is recovering. This morning I am joined by the Business
:01:18. > :01:21.Secretary, Vince Cable, not one for going wildly over the top, but is he
:01:21. > :01:27.at least cautiously optimistic that the UK has turned the corner? Does
:01:27. > :01:30.he have any doubts about the move to pump up the housing market? Ed
:01:30. > :01:35.Miliband has announced more details of how Labour's relationship with
:01:35. > :01:39.the unions will be be formed. There will be a rare, special party
:01:39. > :01:43.conference next spring to vote on the changes. His close ally Sadiq
:01:43. > :01:47.Khan, shadow justice secretary, is here to explain the process, how
:01:47. > :01:52.radical Will the changes be? Also this morning, that Colossus of
:01:53. > :01:56.British broadcasting, Alan Partridge has a new movie out, I will be
:01:56. > :02:01.talking to his co-creator, Armando Iannucci, writer, producer and
:02:01. > :02:05.political satirist. And Sophie Raworth has been meeting two actors
:02:05. > :02:15.whose production of Othello is currently one of the hottest tickets
:02:15. > :02:27.
:02:27. > :02:32.What is to go and wait for my Glasgow band Travis will perform
:02:32. > :02:37.live in the studio for us. All that is coming up, but first the news
:02:37. > :02:40.with Naga Munchetty. Good morning. MPs have criticised
:02:40. > :02:45.the way official migration figures are gathered, saying that they are
:02:45. > :02:48.little better than a best guess. The Commons Public Administration
:02:48. > :02:52.Committee says the statistics are not fit for purpose, although the
:02:52. > :02:58.government disagrees. EU political correspondent Tom Barton.
:02:58. > :03:01.For nearly a week, this ban has been driving around north London, with
:03:01. > :03:06.its uncompromising message. If you are in the UK illegally, either go
:03:06. > :03:09.home or face arrest. It is a message which has angered Nick Clegg, who
:03:09. > :03:14.has complained to the Home Office. The Liberal Democrats say they were
:03:14. > :03:17.not told about this pilot scheme in advance and say the idea is
:03:17. > :03:22.distasteful and divisive. The Home Office says the poster is offering
:03:22. > :03:26.help to those who choose to leave voluntarily, but a refugee charity
:03:26. > :03:31.is threatening to take the Government to court. It is blatant
:03:31. > :03:35.racism, in our opinion - go home get arrested, it is pretty basic stuff,
:03:35. > :03:40.and it speaks to the lowest common to nominate, it speaks of racism.
:03:40. > :03:44.Even keeping track of the number of people coming into the UK legally is
:03:44. > :03:47.proving tricky. In a report published this morning, the Public
:03:47. > :03:51.Administration Committee says the official statistics are a blunt
:03:51. > :03:59.instrument. In the 12 months to June last year, the Government estimates
:03:59. > :04:03.that 515,000 people entered the country and 352,000 emigrated. That
:04:03. > :04:09.would put the net migration figure, immigration minus emigration, at
:04:09. > :04:15.163,000. But because immigration and emigration figures are estimates,
:04:15. > :04:19.that number could be as high as 198,000, or as low as 128,000.
:04:19. > :04:26.Either way, the government is missing its own target of getting
:04:27. > :04:30.that figure below 100,000. The Home Secretary, Theresa May, has
:04:30. > :04:34.revealed she was diagnosed with type one diabetes two months ago. Doctors
:04:34. > :04:37.have told her that she must inject herself with insulin at least twice
:04:38. > :04:41.a day for the rest of her life. In an interview with the Mail on
:04:41. > :04:46.Sunday, she says that the diagnosis came as a shock but that it does not
:04:46. > :04:49.affect the way she does her job. Supporters of Egypt's ousted
:04:49. > :04:52.President Mohamed Morsi continue their city and at a mosque in Cairo
:04:52. > :04:56.despite violent clashes with security forces in which more than
:04:56. > :05:00.70 were killed yesterday. The American Secretary of State, John
:05:00. > :05:02.Kerry, has called on Egyptian leaders to step back from the brink
:05:02. > :05:05.after protesters accused the military of shooting to kill when
:05:05. > :05:11.trying to break up the demonstration.
:05:11. > :05:15.Despite the latest carnage, the camp of the fine set up by Mohamed Morsi
:05:15. > :05:20.supporters after his removal by the army in early June I is very much
:05:20. > :05:25.still here. In fact, if anything, it seems to be growing. There is a lot
:05:25. > :05:31.of anger here about what happened and a determination not to give way.
:05:31. > :05:37.It is a complete massacre. We are peaceful, we do not have a stone, we
:05:37. > :05:41.do not even throw stones. Yesterday there was a massacre, at 2am, these
:05:41. > :05:46.people are peaceful. This is the improvised field hospital which took
:05:46. > :05:50.some of the deluge of casualties. It did what it is good for them and
:05:50. > :05:57.sent the survivors onto proper hospitals. It was a hell, it was a
:05:57. > :06:06.hell. The first time, within six hours, eight hours, we accept that
:06:06. > :06:10.just now more than 100 died and more than 1500 injured patients. Clearly
:06:10. > :06:13.there are preparations here for dealing with more bloodshed. Another
:06:13. > :06:18.collision appears inevitable, with the protesters refusing to move and
:06:18. > :06:21.the interior minister saying they will be cleared away if they don't.
:06:21. > :06:28.Officials say there are some peace initiatives, but they are not very
:06:28. > :06:31.hopeful. So the stage seems set for yet another collision and more
:06:31. > :06:36.bloodshed while the international powers: The interim government to
:06:36. > :06:40.exercise restraint. The longer this and resolve stand-off goes on, the
:06:40. > :06:44.greater the chances that ten children's will once again erupt
:06:44. > :06:51.into more violence. -- tensions. British shoulders have been involved
:06:51. > :06:56.in an operation to clear terrorists from Sangin in Afghanistan. MOD says
:06:56. > :06:59.about 80 troops were sent to the area earlier this month. British
:06:59. > :07:04.Army operations in Afghanistan were previously reported to be scaled
:07:04. > :07:07.down with a view to complete withdrawal in 2014.
:07:07. > :07:10.It is the final day of the Anniversary Games in London, and
:07:10. > :07:16.some celebrated British Paralympians will be returning to compete in
:07:16. > :07:19.Jelavic Stadium. Among them will be wheelchair racer David Weir, won
:07:19. > :07:23.gold four times last year, and the champion blade runner Jonnie
:07:23. > :07:28.Peacock. That is all from me for now, I will be back with the
:07:28. > :07:31.headlines just before ten o'clock. Now it is back to Jeremy.
:07:31. > :07:41.On the front pages today, some of the stories you have just been told
:07:41. > :07:52.
:07:52. > :07:58.section, lots of great athletics in the last couple of days. The Royal
:07:58. > :08:03.Family can reign for ever, says the Telegraph. You do not often see the
:08:03. > :08:08.words forever in a headline. The Sunday Mirror has Savile's secret
:08:08. > :08:15.lair at a record shop in Manchester. Scotland on Sunday, Scots should
:08:15. > :08:20.have a vote on the monarchy, a slightly different Royal story. In
:08:20. > :08:26.the Express, a royal baby celebration. The Observer has Egypt
:08:26. > :08:30.as well, the killings in Egypt in the the political trouble there.
:08:30. > :08:35.With me to review the papers in more detail, Beth Rigby of the Financial
:08:35. > :08:40.Times, and Trevor Phillips, welcome, where do you want to start? I think
:08:40. > :08:47.start where you left off, Egypt. The Observer has this big double page
:08:47. > :08:54.spread, and what it tells us is that the army is slowly, but
:08:54. > :08:58.remorselessly, tightening the screw on the previous president Morsi's
:08:58. > :09:02.supporters, and they are going to eliminate them as a political force.
:09:02. > :09:08.I think the striking thing about this is that the whole region
:09:08. > :09:12.depends on Egypt, it is the biggest country, it is a significant country
:09:12. > :09:16.strategically, it is very young. So this has got to get sorted out,
:09:16. > :09:21.otherwise it is a world catastrophe. I think the Americans are desperate
:09:21. > :09:25.to get stability, and I should say, by the way, there is one other issue
:09:25. > :09:29.here - looking at the coverage, it has been a particular problem for
:09:29. > :09:32.the left of centre newspapers, who greeted the toppling of Morsi was a
:09:32. > :09:38.sort of great thing for democracy, the people in the street. Actually,
:09:38. > :09:45.it was a military coup. Independent carry atypically
:09:45. > :09:52.arresting piece by Robert Fisk, who is at the hospital next to the
:09:52. > :09:55.mosque where there was this attack, and he talks of the blood of 37
:09:55. > :10:01.corpses, of doctors using two weeks worth of medical supplies, so quite
:10:01. > :10:06.graphic and brutal piece about what is happening there. And this is
:10:06. > :10:10.really bad news for the United States. I mean, you know, Morsi is
:10:10. > :10:19.overthrown, and they say a coup is not a coup, because obviously they
:10:19. > :10:25.want to carry on funding Egypt, and they want to prevent a kind of...
:10:25. > :10:29.The Muslim Brotherhood into power... Muslim Brotherhood members backed
:10:29. > :10:33.Morsi, and they are victims in all of this, that is the narrative we
:10:33. > :10:39.are getting. Exactly, but it is an invidious choice for the US - who
:10:39. > :10:42.back, a military that is shooting people in mosques, or do they
:10:42. > :10:47.withdraw funding and they are out of control? It seems to me that there
:10:47. > :10:52.is no choice. We believe in democracy, and sometimes democracy
:10:52. > :10:57.delivers people, Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood, that we, the West, do
:10:57. > :11:01.not like or share a sensibility with. You cannot pick and choose.
:11:01. > :11:06.saw during the Cold War that the US would often backed dictatorships to
:11:06. > :11:10.prevent a Communist regime. This is the difficulty, he was elected, and
:11:10. > :11:15.then he was sort of an elected in a kind of coup, and nobody really
:11:15. > :11:20.knows what type of position to take on that. It is partly a media
:11:20. > :11:24.problem. Every time there is a massive protest, it is written up as
:11:24. > :11:29.the will of the people. Well, actually, the will of the people is
:11:29. > :11:33.what happened at the ballot box. Treating this as... You hear this
:11:33. > :11:38.phrase repeated again and again, sometimes on the BBC, the people say
:11:38. > :11:42.this. Well, actually, they don't say this just because there are 100,000
:11:42. > :11:49.in the square. They say this because they voted for this government.
:11:49. > :11:55.Let's move to the royal baby. We can smile about this at least. People we
:11:56. > :11:59.don't have to vote for! A classic headline on the Telegraph. The Royal
:11:59. > :12:05.Family can rain over us for ever, this is apparently a poll which
:12:05. > :12:09.tells us, surprise, surprise, that three quarters of British people
:12:09. > :12:14.expect the Royal Family to be there. That is the point of the
:12:14. > :12:20.Royal Family, that they are there for ever. They provide, if you like,
:12:20. > :12:26.I think what some poets would call a still, small centre in a turbulence
:12:26. > :12:30.democracy. And, frankly, it has been a good thing for this country.
:12:30. > :12:36.Observer? Well, the Observer is already raining on the parade here.
:12:36. > :12:43.Tim Lewis has a piece from the pressure group Republican, where
:12:43. > :12:47.they basically say, a quarter of readers like them, a quarter really
:12:47. > :12:51.don't, and about 50 people don't really care about the Royal Family,
:12:51. > :12:55.they are agnostic, they do not feel strongly either way whether they
:12:55. > :12:59.should reign over us for ever or not. But I think the point of all of
:12:59. > :13:05.this is that at the moment, it is an institution that waxes and wanes. At
:13:05. > :13:08.the moment, the institution is extremely popular, because we have
:13:09. > :13:12.had the Diamond Jubilee and the royal baby. I have to say, William
:13:12. > :13:16.and Kate, I thought, did a sterling job when they came out of the
:13:16. > :13:21.hospital under intense pressure. When Prince Charles comes to the
:13:21. > :13:23.throne, a much more divisive figure, I will be interested to see what the
:13:23. > :13:30.Sunday Telegraph headlines are like them about the Royal Family, because
:13:30. > :13:34.it might be a period of less love between the nation and the Royals.
:13:34. > :13:38.An interesting story about Theresa May, Trevor, tell us about that.
:13:39. > :13:43.Well, Theresa May has spoken to the Mail on Sunday, and she has revealed
:13:43. > :13:51.that she has type one diabetes, which means she has to take
:13:51. > :13:54.injections twice a day. You sort of wonder why it is a story, it is a
:13:54. > :13:59.private matter, but I think what happened is that she has probably
:13:59. > :14:03.decided that, rather than have this come out, because she was diagnosed
:14:03. > :14:07.a few months ago, have this come out as a kind of great revelation by
:14:07. > :14:12.somebody else, she has taken control of the story and said, this is what
:14:12. > :14:16.it is, that is it, I'm going to get on with my job. If I may say, I have
:14:16. > :14:23.worked with Theresa May for two years, when I was at the commission
:14:23. > :14:26.- she is the nominally industrious. -- the nominally. I do not imagine
:14:26. > :14:34.there is a minute of the day when she is not working or thinking of
:14:34. > :14:39.her job. Often tipped as a future leader. Is that behind this? Well, I
:14:39. > :14:43.wonder whether one element of this is that the story suggests that,
:14:43. > :14:46.because she has this condition, it might bar her from public office,
:14:46. > :14:51.and maybe what she is trying to do is get in before that starts to
:14:51. > :14:55.become an issue. But the truth is that these days all sorts of
:14:55. > :15:01.disabilities, because that is what it is, are managed, controlled, and
:15:01. > :15:04.people do fantastic jobs with all kinds of conditions. I actually
:15:04. > :15:09.spoke to some people in her camp about this, because I was fascinated
:15:09. > :15:13.as to why she was doing this now. She said there was no particular
:15:13. > :15:17.timing, no reason - she has had the illness, it was a good time in the
:15:17. > :15:21.diary to do it, and she plays with a straight bat, and she wants to get
:15:21. > :15:25.it out, the information out. I think, politically, it is
:15:25. > :15:31.interesting that she says it now, because I think she's doing it from
:15:31. > :15:34.a position of strength. She has had a great Spending Review, she dealt
:15:34. > :15:39.with the Woolwich terrorist attack really well, police and crime
:15:39. > :15:44.figures are down, immigration figures are down. Well, maybe not,
:15:44. > :15:50.according to the papers today! So I think she has chosen to do it now,
:15:50. > :15:54.shall able ability but do it from a position of strength, and she is
:15:54. > :16:00.definitely is the favourite to overtake Cameron at the moment. --
:16:00. > :16:10.show a vulnerability. Whether you think she will or not, I think get
:16:10. > :16:20.it out in a position of strength and build from that. We mustn't miss out
:16:20. > :16:21.
:16:21. > :16:26.the van, this story is getting bigger and bigger. This is amazing,
:16:26. > :16:31.who thought this was a good idea? I am astounded because Mark Harper,
:16:31. > :16:41.the minister, is generally speaking safe pair of hands. The idea that
:16:41. > :16:42.
:16:42. > :16:52.you put this around and it is a serious exercise in immigrant
:16:52. > :16:53.
:16:53. > :16:57.control, it is crazy. And would this be regarded as racist? No, just
:16:57. > :17:04.stupid. When you are in a situation when Nigel Farage is saying you have
:17:04. > :17:09.gone over the top with immigration, you know you are in the wrong place.
:17:09. > :17:15.We did an interesting story in the Financial Times on Saturday about
:17:15. > :17:20.the government asking certain people coming on visitor visas from certain
:17:20. > :17:25.countries in the Commonwealth, to pay �1000 upfront comment of the
:17:25. > :17:28.country. Quite popular here, and I think what is happening with this
:17:28. > :17:34.story and that story is that there is a domestic audience that the
:17:34. > :17:38.government are trying to speak to, to say we are tough on immigration.
:17:38. > :17:44.We might not like that story, but I bet if you took that down to your
:17:44. > :17:48.local pub a lot of people might like it. As we are seeing in the other
:17:48. > :17:53.stories today, they haven't got control over the numbers. They don't
:17:53. > :18:03.know what the numbers are, and the problem is one reason the population
:18:03. > :18:10.
:18:10. > :18:16.don't like it is because this is... There is a story about the rape
:18:16. > :18:21.threat and Twitter. This is about the journalist who got Jane Austen
:18:21. > :18:29.on the bank note this week by a long campaign, so she is a really good
:18:29. > :18:37.feminist. She has had absolutely horrific abuse on Twitter, I mean
:18:37. > :18:41.rape threats. I looked at her Twitter feed and there is stuff you
:18:41. > :18:48.could not repeat here. In the past 48 hours there has been this massive
:18:48. > :18:53.campaign to try to fight back. I think about 17,000 people last night
:18:53. > :18:57.signed a petition asking Twitter to act on this. The reason I think this
:18:57. > :19:01.story is interesting on another level is that you saw David Cameron
:19:01. > :19:05.coming out last week against the likes of Google saying it is not
:19:05. > :19:11.enough for you to sit back and say there is a child pornography site,
:19:11. > :19:15.we will take it down, you have two actively seek out these websites and
:19:15. > :19:22.take them down. Maybe this will change Twitter's behaviour because
:19:22. > :19:26.they shouldn't just sit back and wait for somebody to complain about
:19:26. > :19:31.being threatened with rape. They should block these people much
:19:31. > :19:37.sooner. Thank you. The weather has been very active lately with
:19:37. > :19:43.dramatic storms so what is on the dramatic storms so what is on the
:19:43. > :19:46.cards for today and the week ahead? If there were any doubts the long
:19:46. > :19:52.dry spell have ended, those doubts have been thoroughly washed away by
:19:52. > :20:00.some rain we have had overnight. Still a Met Office ample warning in
:20:00. > :20:04.place, and this rain is increasingly spreading across Scotland where
:20:04. > :20:11.there will be localised flooding, travel disruption and some strong
:20:11. > :20:15.winds close to the east Coast. The rain will continue right through to
:20:15. > :20:20.this afternoon in the north-east of Scotland. In southern parts of
:20:20. > :20:25.Scotland it will become a little drier. For Northern Ireland, England
:20:25. > :20:29.and Wales, there will be some bright spells and in those bright spells it
:20:29. > :20:35.will not feel too bad, but some showers as well and some of those
:20:35. > :20:40.will be heavy and thundery, and it will also be breezy. This evening
:20:40. > :20:44.and overnight, the rain clears away to the north, although the Northern
:20:44. > :20:49.Isles will stay wet and a rash of showers continuing elsewhere, some
:20:49. > :20:54.of them still sharp. Further showers through the next couple of days,
:20:54. > :21:02.cooling down for a while, but it may well warm up again towards the end
:21:02. > :21:05.well warm up again towards the end of the week.
:21:05. > :21:08."A love letter to Norwich" is how the legendary broadcaster Alan
:21:08. > :21:11.Partridge describes his new film, Alpha Papa. It premiered last week
:21:11. > :21:15.in his spiritual home and Norfolk did him proud. Partridge, looking
:21:15. > :21:19.debonair in a stylish safari suit, brought a touch of radio glamour to
:21:19. > :21:22.the city. Starring, of course, Steve Coogan, the film sees Alan having to
:21:22. > :21:25.work with the police to defuse a potentially violent siege after a
:21:25. > :21:35.new media conglomerate takes over his radio station, North Norfolk
:21:35. > :21:37.
:21:37. > :21:41.Digital. The film's writer and producer Armando Iannucci is here.
:21:41. > :21:49.I'll be talking to him in a moment. First, a look at how the new film's
:21:49. > :21:56.title came about. Hectic danger day, chap of steel, colossal velocity...
:21:56. > :22:03.What was the one you liked? Luck Alpha Papa because it is radio
:22:03. > :22:13.alphabet for your initials, and also means top daddy. You don't think it
:22:13. > :22:14.
:22:14. > :22:20.sounds foreign? Alpha Papa! It does if you say it like that. I'm pleased
:22:20. > :22:28.to see you are still laughing at the material. Alan always makes me
:22:28. > :22:34.laugh, I think that is why he has been going for so long. He makes
:22:34. > :22:41.Steve and myself laugh, we reminisce about him when we meet, we never
:22:41. > :22:46.tire of him. Has he changed a lot since the original? Yes, as a sports
:22:46. > :22:53.reporter he had much more of a John Motz and voice, and Steve was
:22:53. > :22:59.younger, he looked about 12, and he was more of an exaggerated
:22:59. > :23:03.caricature of presenter. We see him now, he has grown into himself. He
:23:03. > :23:09.has a paunch, which Steve has generously grown himself for the
:23:09. > :23:14.film, and I think he feels more relaxed. He has given up the dream
:23:14. > :23:20.of being a big national staff. He has his own radio show in Norwich,
:23:20. > :23:29.then something happens in film that could potentially put him on the
:23:29. > :23:38.national stage again. He is trying to dress younger will stop he has
:23:38. > :23:45.that 2005 presenter of top gear look. Are you on any medication?
:23:45. > :23:50.have aggressive athlete 's foot but that is the only thing. Do you
:23:51. > :23:59.suffer from panic attacks? Do I look like I do? I have had one panic
:23:59. > :24:05.attacks in a car wash which was because of the angry brushes coming
:24:05. > :24:09.towards me. Does the idea of weaponry trouble you? No, I have
:24:09. > :24:19.fired several rifles at funfairs, but I have never fired one in
:24:19. > :24:19.
:24:19. > :24:24.anger. It is a combination of arrogance and weakness. Yes, he is
:24:24. > :24:29.an optimist and he is very confident about himself, the perfect
:24:29. > :24:39.broadcaster in that when the light comes on he will talk, she fills a
:24:39. > :24:45.vacuum. Speak without thinking is his motto. Dead air is a crime! Over
:24:45. > :24:52.attention to tiny detail that annoys most people around him. When his
:24:52. > :24:58.character came about it was like a spoof news show, and what was the
:24:58. > :25:03.story? I said to Steve we need a sports reporter, have you got a
:25:03. > :25:09.voice that would sum up all sports reporters, and he came up with this
:25:09. > :25:15.voice, and instantly someone else in the room said he is an Alan, and
:25:15. > :25:21.someone else said and Partridge, and we had an instant idea of his
:25:21. > :25:25.aspirations, how the news reporters were laughing at him because he only
:25:25. > :25:33.covered sport, how he wanted to get on television, and he looked up to
:25:33. > :25:38.Michael Parkinson rather than Angela Rippon. It happened instantly and we
:25:38. > :25:43.knew there was a character who had a lot of potential, but we didn't
:25:43. > :25:48.realise he would still be around 22 years later. For a writer it must be
:25:48. > :25:56.the moment you live for when something appears and you think this
:25:56. > :26:04.will last. We didn't see � 's in our eyes, but we thought this is funny.
:26:04. > :26:14.We thought it would gained a cult audience, we were in our mid-20s
:26:14. > :26:14.
:26:14. > :26:20.then, and we had no idea we -- it would gradually infect the society
:26:20. > :26:26.the way it has now. Looking at your political work, do you look at the
:26:26. > :26:36.kind of politics we do here and think actually you cannot write
:26:36. > :26:40.
:26:40. > :26:44.anything funnier than that? stopped The Thick Of It because I
:26:44. > :26:54.felt we had said everything that needed to be said and now it is more
:26:54. > :27:01.
:27:01. > :27:05.important to ask questions about how to fix it. Thank you for joining us.
:27:05. > :27:08.You may have missed it amid the excitement over the royal baby, but
:27:08. > :27:11.last Monday evening Ed Miliband announced he wants to hold a special
:27:11. > :27:14.conference of the Labour party next spring to vote on proposed changes
:27:14. > :27:17.to Labour's relationship with the trade unions. He wants individual
:27:17. > :27:20.union members to make a positive decision to join the party rather
:27:20. > :27:24.than being automatically affiliated. But he's been warned that a system
:27:24. > :27:27.of opting in could lead to a huge drop-off in the party's income. The
:27:27. > :27:31.Shadow Justice Secretary, Sadiq Khan, takes the lead for Labour on
:27:31. > :27:33.party funding issues, and he's with me now - good morning. How will this
:27:33. > :27:43.special conference work? Ed Miliband has said he wants to make our party
:27:43. > :27:48.more open, and he has asked Lord Ray Collins to prepare an interim
:27:48. > :27:52.document this morning which will open consultation with the various
:27:52. > :27:56.parts of the Labour family and next spring we will have a special
:27:56. > :28:02.conference where the Labour Party will decide whether to approve the
:28:02. > :28:06.changes Miliband has announced all to vote against them. Because trade
:28:06. > :28:12.unions are very much part of the family, they will have 50% of the
:28:12. > :28:19.vote at the conference. We are proud of our history with trade unions, we
:28:19. > :28:22.have access to 3 million hard-working people including
:28:22. > :28:28.nurses, technicians, factory workers, and we want to make the
:28:28. > :28:38.link stronger and to give them a bigger say in the way to do that is
:28:38. > :28:39.
:28:39. > :28:44.to let them opt in. You want to reshape your relationship and they
:28:44. > :28:49.are deciding, it doesn't make sense. If the trade unions are happy about
:28:49. > :28:54.this, they will vote against and we will lose the opportunity to change
:28:54. > :28:59.the rules, but we are hoping we can persuade them this is the right
:28:59. > :29:02.thing for the Labour Party. The country needs a reformed party
:29:02. > :29:08.firing on all solicitors and that is why Ed Miliband has announced these
:29:08. > :29:12.changes. We are hoping the trade unions will see the strength in
:29:12. > :29:19.this, we want them to have a greater say in the direction of the party to
:29:19. > :29:24.make was more electable in 2015. is a synthetic showdown because you
:29:24. > :29:28.want Ed Miliband to get stuck into the unions to win more votes in the
:29:28. > :29:38.south of England. Of that was the case Len McCluskey would not be
:29:38. > :29:39.
:29:39. > :29:45.criticising. He raised him!Know from he warned us we would be losing
:29:45. > :29:50.millions of pounds worth of trade union money. What will you do about
:29:51. > :29:59.that? We will find other ways. We have seen in America how Barack
:29:59. > :30:04.Obama has had donations, and how in France people have been making small
:30:04. > :30:10.contributions. It is not legitimate for hedge funds managers or for
:30:10. > :30:15.bankers to bankroll the Conservative party. It is really state funded, we
:30:15. > :30:19.don't want that, we want to increase the numbers of people contributing
:30:19. > :30:29.to the party. If more people paid a small amount, that would be a good
:30:29. > :30:34.way of raising money. We think there should be a cap of �5,000. This is
:30:34. > :30:41.not just about money, it is about in some way breaking the link between
:30:41. > :30:46.Labour and the unions. Where does this go in your conference? It is
:30:46. > :30:50.not about breaking the link. Rather than the bus driver or factory
:30:50. > :30:53.worker, when they join the trade union, having the option to opt out,
:30:53. > :30:58.we want to have a relationship with them throughout the process of them
:30:58. > :31:04.and wish to be affiliated, to come to party meetings, to come to events
:31:04. > :31:07.in my constituency. Will unions still have a third of the votes in
:31:07. > :31:10.leadership contests? That is an important question. One of the
:31:11. > :31:14.things that Ray Collins is looking at is the knock-on consequence of
:31:14. > :31:18.these changes that Ed Miliband has announced. For example, it may lead
:31:18. > :31:22.to a change in the way we elect our leader. Ed Miliband has announced
:31:22. > :31:29.you can be a registered supporter to take part in alien ship contest.
:31:29. > :31:33.That may lead to changes in relation to how we make policy. Ray Collins
:31:33. > :31:38.is looking at the consequences of the changes in Ed Miliband's
:31:38. > :31:43.announcement. If Unite have behaved so appallingly, will you give back
:31:43. > :31:47.the �8 million you have accepted from them since the last election?
:31:47. > :31:52.No-one is saying that. You called the police in at Falkirk! There have
:31:52. > :31:56.been allegations about membership recruitment, we have had an
:31:56. > :32:01.investigation. We asked police to investigate, the police have found
:32:01. > :32:07.no allegations of criminality. what is the problem? We will
:32:07. > :32:09.continue with disciplinary hearings. The problem is this, it is 2013, and
:32:09. > :32:13.it is not acceptable to have a system where individual trade union
:32:13. > :32:20.member is not aware some of their fees are paid to the Labour Party.
:32:20. > :32:25.Some of them are conservatives or may even be Liberal Democrat voters.
:32:25. > :32:29.We think you should have a choice to opt in. We think you, as a
:32:30. > :32:34.hard-working bus driver, factory worker, electricity, ought to play a
:32:34. > :32:38.part in Labour Party policy. Before you go, this campaign on the side of
:32:38. > :32:45.the bus which is going around six boroughs, go home or face arrest, it
:32:45. > :32:52.is aimed at illegal immigrants. is not aimed at illegal immigrants.
:32:52. > :32:55.Yvette Cooper has been silent on it, why is that? The shadow
:32:55. > :32:59.immigration spokesperson has spoken. Yvette Cooper has not spoken. You
:32:59. > :33:02.have a member of a team, the shadow immigration minister, not
:33:02. > :33:06.unreasonably, has given a statement during because of the week, and
:33:06. > :33:10.another one today. You either believe that politics is a team
:33:10. > :33:16.sport, or just one person running the show. Do you believe it is
:33:16. > :33:19.racist? It is short-sighted and foolish. It is an attempt to win
:33:19. > :33:25.over UKIP voters. What evidence is there that people have left the
:33:25. > :33:29.country as a consequence of these advertisements? Anyone that buys
:33:29. > :33:32.anything from the back of a lorry is foolish, and that includes this sort
:33:32. > :33:37.of silly poster. So you do not think they should be doing it. I have seen
:33:37. > :33:41.no evidence it will work. Get out or be arrested is not the way to get
:33:41. > :33:45.people out of the country. The Government should have borders that
:33:45. > :33:49.work, so we know who is coming in and going out, they should enforce
:33:49. > :33:55.immigration policies, rather than doing that, this is a silly gimmick.
:33:55. > :33:59.Thank you very much, steady calm. Othello is as tense and tragic as
:33:59. > :34:04.any of Shakespeare's plays with almost no subplot for release,
:34:04. > :34:07.highly pressurised, and when that pressure is released, the ensuing
:34:07. > :34:15.violence is shocking. The National Theatre's production is being
:34:15. > :34:20.lionised by critics and audiences alike. Adrian Lester plays the Moor,
:34:20. > :34:26.and it also stars Rory Kinnear. Here is a brief look at Nicholas
:34:26. > :34:32.Hytner's modern version set on an overseas military base. Jealousy is
:34:32. > :34:42.the green eyed monster which does Mark. Look to your wife, Observer
:34:42. > :35:01.
:35:01. > :35:06.well, with Cassio Let me hear you at the Olivier Theatre. Adrian
:35:06. > :35:13.Lester began by explaining how he and Rory Kinnear got into character.
:35:13. > :35:17.Between us, we worked out quite carefully, in rehearsal, the moments
:35:17. > :35:22.that went through Othello's armour, where Iago said the lines that went
:35:22. > :35:28.through and really chimed with something, with the vulnerable side
:35:28. > :35:34.of Othello, something that he would attack to defend. And the idea of
:35:34. > :35:41.his love for Desdemona, his military standing and the uniform, all the
:35:41. > :35:45.pride he takes in that, those things make him very vulnerable. Iago is
:35:45. > :35:49.one of those characters that literary critics have been puzzling
:35:49. > :35:53.about for centuries, trying to solve them. How did you approach him as a
:35:53. > :35:56.character? You have to think about how long he has been in the army,
:35:56. > :36:00.along he has served with Othello, the relationship they have developed
:36:00. > :36:04.over 20 years. You cannot trust what he says, because he always seems to
:36:04. > :36:08.be lying. He believes Othello and slept with his wife, and whether or
:36:08. > :36:13.not it is true, he is going to pursue him as if it is the truth.
:36:13. > :36:17.That was the key ingredient to why he starts where he does, but the
:36:17. > :36:22.murderous nurse and the vital element of the play is not there at
:36:22. > :36:28.the beginning. There is a sense of it starting quite light, and then
:36:28. > :36:31.really closing in. The set helps, it is a brilliant set, and it really
:36:31. > :36:36.concentrate the power of the play and makes it very claustrophobic,
:36:36. > :36:40.and the lighting brings up the heat and the Hayes of being stationed in
:36:40. > :36:48.a hot country. It is a bit like being at Camp Bastion, why has the
:36:48. > :36:53.military theme been so important. is a really military play. You are
:36:53. > :36:56.expecting a play about a war between the Turks and the Venetians, and
:36:56. > :37:00.then at the beginning of the second act, the Turks are drowned on their
:37:00. > :37:06.way to Cyprus and there is no war. So it then becomes an examination of
:37:06. > :37:11.how soldiers interact together, when there is no outlet for that pent-up
:37:11. > :37:15.aggression. But Nicholas Hytner, the director, was so intent on making it
:37:15. > :37:20.such a central theme, deployed a military adviser, somebody who had
:37:20. > :37:23.worked in the army for 32 years, to make sure that he got it right, the
:37:23. > :37:28.sense of betrayal is absolutely at the heart of it, isn't it? It is, it
:37:28. > :37:32.is funny how much Major General Jonathan David Shaw came in to
:37:32. > :37:36.advise us, and it is amazing how much of the play really chimed with
:37:36. > :37:40.his modern boots on the ground experience of being in the army, and
:37:40. > :37:45.he talked to us in rehearsal about some of the situations of being in
:37:45. > :37:49.bunkers for months on end, because the enemy were lobbing mortar over
:37:49. > :37:51.into the compound, and they slept in these bunkers. And he talked about
:37:51. > :37:57.soldiers getting distressed or needing psychiatric health because
:37:57. > :38:01.of the stuff they have been through, and all of its chimed brilliantly
:38:01. > :38:05.with what he saw in the play. It made complete sense to him, the idea
:38:05. > :38:09.of being passed over and seeking revenge. The production is at a big
:38:09. > :38:13.impact, and it is going to be on at the cinema now. Go up the
:38:13. > :38:18.broadcasters on the 26th of September. So it will appeal to a
:38:18. > :38:25.much wider audience. I have done a couple of these live, Hamlet, and I
:38:25. > :38:32.think probably when the NT Life was first mooted, I was here at the
:38:32. > :38:36.time, and I think I did not really see how the experience of going to
:38:36. > :38:42.the theatre could be captured by a camera and could be experienced by
:38:42. > :38:49.such a wide range of people. I am still worried! He has done it, so I
:38:49. > :38:53.keep picking his brains. I assure him, it is going to be all right!
:38:53. > :38:56.The camera teams are in from the first day of rehearsals, it is not
:38:56. > :39:00.the same as being in the theatre, but it is the closest equivalent if
:39:00. > :39:05.you live in America or Australia, the nearest you are going to get,
:39:05. > :39:11.and it is almost as good, I am assured. And the letters after, the
:39:11. > :39:14.letters one got from people, having driven from their small town in
:39:14. > :39:17.Texas, driving three hours to the nearest cinema that shows it because
:39:17. > :39:22.of their passion for Shakespeare, that was quite overwhelming, the
:39:22. > :39:28.response. You are well experienced in front of television cameras, so
:39:28. > :39:34.many people around the world know you from Hustle. A con artist,
:39:34. > :39:40.great! You got lessons in drifting. Yes, it all sort of chimed with what
:39:40. > :39:47.you learn about body language as an actor, card tricks, learning to play
:39:47. > :39:50.poker, anyone shuffling cards. How to lift the aces and all of that, do
:39:50. > :39:54.things with Collins, how to pick pockets.
:39:54. > :39:57.If something seems too good to be true, it almost certainly is. Always
:39:57. > :40:00.look a gift horse in the mouth unless you don't care whether it has
:40:00. > :40:04.deep. And you cannot cheat an honest man.
:40:04. > :40:10.One of the things the guys said, he said, where'd you think pickpockets
:40:10. > :40:14.normally stand on June trains? You know the warning sign, where it says
:40:14. > :40:18.beware of pickpockets? They are around there, because when human
:40:18. > :40:22.beings see the sign, you instinctively go, oh, you check
:40:22. > :40:26.where your wallet is. You have just told everyone around you where it
:40:26. > :40:30.is, sometimes the back pocket. Instinctively, you will glimpse it
:40:30. > :40:37.am and you will go, it is still there. The pickpocket will know,
:40:37. > :40:41.OK, back left. I will remember that, that is fantastic! You can also
:40:41. > :40:46.remember that for James Bond. not to make him angry because he has
:40:46. > :40:54.learned a few things! You have had a fantastic run in the last two.
:40:54. > :40:57.was a smaller part in Quantum Of Solace, but you got to see the
:40:57. > :41:02.machinations of a huge movie like that, and everything that comes with
:41:02. > :41:08.it. We ended up going to Panama as well, and this one, it was a larger
:41:08. > :41:12.part, but I think the furthest I went was Buckinghamshire, so
:41:12. > :41:17.hopefully in the next one I will get some more glamorous hotspot again.
:41:17. > :41:23.It is coming from MI6, the data packet is linking to our network.
:41:23. > :41:26.This is behind our firewall. We should shut down. Track it!It
:41:26. > :41:32.carries an enormous heft and popularity. I think my third day of
:41:32. > :41:40.filming, that little worm of doubt came in that said, everybody is
:41:40. > :41:45.going to watch this... And just a slight sweat started! A slight heart
:41:45. > :41:50.murmur! And you realise that you cannot think about that, you cannot
:41:50. > :41:56.think, you know, about its effect or popularity - you have just got to do
:41:56. > :41:59.the job. Thank you very much. Rory Kinnear and Adrian Lester
:41:59. > :42:01.talking to Sophie Raworth, and the National Theatre production of
:42:01. > :42:06.Othello will be relayed live in cinemas around the country and
:42:06. > :42:11.around the world on 26th of September.
:42:11. > :42:18.Now, ever since the financial crash of 2008, the state of the economy
:42:18. > :42:22.has dominated British politics. It has it seemed that flat lining was
:42:22. > :42:25.the best it could do, but ministers are beginning to seem cautiously
:42:25. > :42:29.optimistic. Vince Cable is an economist by profession, so he
:42:29. > :42:33.should know what is going on, and he is here now, good morning. What kind
:42:33. > :42:37.of growth is this? Is it sustainable? I think your phrase
:42:37. > :42:41.cautious optimism was right. We do not yet know if it is sustainable,
:42:41. > :42:46.because it will be to go on for some years, and it will need to be the
:42:46. > :42:48.right kind, because we cannot repeat the mistakes of the past which led
:42:49. > :42:52.to the financial crisis, we have to make sure that growth is in exports,
:42:52. > :42:57.business investment, and it is targeted for the long-term, which is
:42:57. > :43:02.what we are trying to do through our industrial strategy. Manufacturing
:43:02. > :43:06.is down 10% on the boom level, GDP is down 3%, so we locked into a
:43:06. > :43:10.permanently lower setting here? financial Christ did enormous
:43:10. > :43:15.damage, and we are a poorer country as a result, and we are having to
:43:15. > :43:18.rebuild it in the right way. -- the financial crisis. Actually, there
:43:18. > :43:21.are some good things happening in manufacturing, the car industry,
:43:21. > :43:25.aerospace, and some of those other sectors, but we have got to keep
:43:25. > :43:29.that going for a number of years, so we have to concentrate on skill
:43:29. > :43:33.training, building up innovation, developing procurement within the
:43:33. > :43:39.UK. So it is a long-term strategy, and jumping on a few quarters of
:43:39. > :43:43.figures does not result. All kinds of things, as a result of us getting
:43:43. > :43:47.into growth. For example, one of your ministers, Matthew Hancock,
:43:47. > :43:51.says firms have a duty to employ Brits, do you agree with that?
:43:51. > :43:54.way he put it, I do not have any question. He is not talking about
:43:54. > :43:57.compulsion or discrimination. He is saying that we should be trying to
:43:57. > :44:01.make sure that British people, particularly young people, are
:44:01. > :44:11.trained so that they can take jobs that are available, and we are
:44:11. > :44:12.
:44:12. > :44:14.competing in a single market across Europe, and it is right that we
:44:14. > :44:17.encourage British people to be employed. A sense of duty on the
:44:17. > :44:20.employer, that is what he was talking about. I would echo that in
:44:20. > :44:21.another way, and one of the things I am trying to do through our
:44:21. > :44:25.industrial strategies encourage our British manufacturers to use British
:44:25. > :44:28.supply chains. I do not use the word duty, but I encourage them, and if I
:44:28. > :44:31.find the big producers in the North Sea are buying in all their
:44:31. > :44:37.platforms and sold from overseas, I challenge them. I think what Matthew
:44:37. > :44:40.is saying is very similar to that. But a lot of people preferred to
:44:40. > :44:44.recruit from abroad, possibly because they can pay them less. They
:44:44. > :44:47.may even pay them below the minimum wage. Well, that is completely wrong
:44:47. > :44:52.and it is illegal, and indeed there is a point at which the issues
:44:52. > :44:58.around low pay and illegal immigration intersect, and I am now
:44:58. > :45:04.working with HMRC to have a much tougher crackdown on employers who
:45:04. > :45:08.do employ people with the minimum wage. We are going to make it easier
:45:08. > :45:12.to bring prosecutions and make sure that illegal behaviour is stopped.
:45:12. > :45:17.What about this Travis we have been talking about, going around six
:45:17. > :45:27.paras with the message go home or face arrest for people who are here
:45:27. > :45:29.
:45:29. > :45:33.illegally, is it racist? I wouldn't use that word, but it is stupid.
:45:33. > :45:38.think it is offensive, and it is designed apparently to create a
:45:38. > :45:43.sense of fear in the British population we have a vast problem
:45:43. > :45:47.with illegal immigration. We have a problem, but it is not a fast one
:45:47. > :45:53.and has to be dealt with in a measured way and that is why I have
:45:53. > :45:58.said we have to crack down on employers abusing Lope. There is a
:45:58. > :46:03.report out saying we cannot have much confidence in the immigration
:46:03. > :46:09.statistics anyway so the problem could be worse than we think.
:46:09. > :46:14.not a totalitarian state, we don't count every single person, but it is
:46:14. > :46:22.difficult being an immigrant in Britain. You cannot work or have
:46:22. > :46:26.access to benefits. The argument about those numbers, which was
:46:26. > :46:31.released this morning by the select committee, it only really matters if
:46:31. > :46:37.you are pursuing some target and there is this net immigration figure
:46:37. > :46:41.which the Conservatives are very preoccupied by. This idea that you
:46:41. > :46:46.are pursuing the figure is very misleading because amongst other
:46:46. > :46:51.things, the largest number of people counted as immigrants are overseas
:46:51. > :46:56.students, who are visitors but under the United Nations classification
:46:56. > :47:05.they are regarded as immigrants but they are good for the country.
:47:05. > :47:11.far as the van ghost, one more question, it is your Government that
:47:11. > :47:15.has done it, has there been a row about it? I certainly wasn't
:47:15. > :47:22.consulted, but it is a pilot study that has stopped and we will look at
:47:23. > :47:29.the results. Do you want it continued? I cannot see I would be
:47:29. > :47:33.in favour of it but let's see what it produces. It was stupid and
:47:33. > :47:43.offensive and it is unlikely it will continue. People are still on tight
:47:43. > :47:45.
:47:45. > :47:52.budgets, do you, like the Archbishop of Canterbury, want to port Wonga
:47:52. > :47:55.out of business? I would not single out one company, but there are many
:47:55. > :48:00.people who operate through payday lenders on owner as terms and it is
:48:00. > :48:05.all very well to condemn that but you have got to offer an
:48:05. > :48:12.alternative. The best alternative is credit unions and we are promoting
:48:12. > :48:17.it, giving them �38 million to provide an alternative. So you could
:48:18. > :48:24.work with the Archbishop of Canterbury on this? Yes, I think it
:48:24. > :48:34.is important for a church to give practical help and that is what he
:48:34. > :48:38.
:48:38. > :48:42.is doing. Talking this week about banks that are not lending and all
:48:42. > :48:50.of that, but help me understand this because you argued against debt
:48:50. > :48:58.levels during the boom, you were worried about banks splurging too
:48:58. > :49:01.much. We want banks to take people's savings and channel them
:49:01. > :49:05.into productive investment through small and medium-sized companies and
:49:05. > :49:11.they are not doing that. Manufacturers are struggling to
:49:11. > :49:16.raise credit and that is what I was referring to. They are not doing it
:49:16. > :49:25.because they have been told to shore up their balance sheets. We don't
:49:25. > :49:29.want the banks toppling over again so they have got to have a sensible
:49:29. > :49:34.balance and not overreact. What is wrong with nationwide which seems to
:49:34. > :49:41.have gone back into house loans like there is no tomorrow, what's wrong
:49:41. > :49:45.with them being told to keep 3% of the money they are lending as cash?
:49:45. > :49:50.And mutual building societies are crucial to provide proper
:49:50. > :49:57.competition with the banks. There was a prospect a year ago that song
:49:57. > :50:03.would get into business lending, and the nationwide is having to withdraw
:50:03. > :50:13.from that because of these tough capital requirements. Staying on
:50:13. > :50:18.housing, and there is this Help To Buy scheme which essentially allows
:50:18. > :50:28.people access to Government cash to buy a house. We are back to stuff
:50:28. > :50:31.
:50:31. > :50:34.you were warning about in the 2000s. The Help To Buy scheme is
:50:34. > :50:41.actually quite complex. One part is already operating, providing
:50:41. > :50:45.mortgages against new homes and nobody has questioned that. The
:50:45. > :50:51.proposal to provide a guarantee for a limited range mortgage could be a
:50:51. > :50:55.problem, it could inflate the market, it could do, but if it is
:50:55. > :51:01.properly designed it could be a useful addition. The Canadians have
:51:01. > :51:05.a guarantee scheme for the insurance that underlies the market and it has
:51:05. > :51:10.stabilised it. You are right, we mustn't risk returning to the
:51:10. > :51:16.problems of the last decade when housing was out of control but the
:51:16. > :51:22.real problem is housing supply. The current numbers are about 100,000
:51:22. > :51:28.per year, hopelessly inadequate. That is the point, you put this
:51:28. > :51:33.money into getting people to compete with each other to rack up the price
:51:33. > :51:37.of existing houses when people say you should be building more houses.
:51:37. > :51:44.Yes, this was a disaster we are trying to come back from and the
:51:44. > :51:50.Government has taken measures on housing supply. Social housing?That
:51:50. > :51:59.is where the gap is, and the Liberal Democrat conference, at that we will
:51:59. > :52:04.be talking about that. It is a big problem area. HS2, the high-speed
:52:04. > :52:09.rail link, you have suggested recently it may not go ahead. You
:52:09. > :52:14.said we are still looking at it. Obviously the Government is
:52:14. > :52:20.continuing to look at it. We have got to do proper cost benefit
:52:20. > :52:26.analysis. Could it be cancelled?The Government is not remotely
:52:26. > :52:31.considering cancelling it. It is a big project with major benefits in
:52:31. > :52:37.reducing the gap between North and South in economic terms, it will
:52:37. > :52:44.increase capacity, but it has got to make economic sense. Getting more
:52:44. > :52:51.expensive every day. That is why the evaluation is our continuing.
:52:51. > :52:57.who watch television will think that all right, they are not 100% on it.
:52:57. > :53:03.The project has got to produce benefits for the country, but you
:53:03. > :53:07.cannot have governments switching on and off these projects for decades
:53:07. > :53:13.because nothing happens. The David Cameron interview last week had from
:53:13. > :53:17.speculating about life post election and he had this telling phrase where
:53:17. > :53:24.he said he was looking forward to leading Conservative only
:53:24. > :53:31.Government. It couldn't be clearer, he doesn't you. We are not looking
:53:31. > :53:38.to work with them, we are back with distance between the two parties. At
:53:38. > :53:44.the next election we will be competing independently, competing
:53:44. > :53:51.on our own record which we are proud of as an independent party. So you
:53:51. > :53:57.are also looking forward to being out on your own? We will be out on
:53:57. > :54:00.our own campaigning independently. Now the news headlines. A group of
:54:00. > :54:06.MPs have criticised the accuracy of official figures showing the number
:54:06. > :54:08.of people who are coming to live in Britain. The Government has rejected
:54:08. > :54:13.the conclusions from the Public Accounts Committee saying that
:54:13. > :54:19.migration is at its lowest level for decades. It comes as a controversial
:54:19. > :54:26.Home Office campaign is due to come to an end. Taking on this programme,
:54:26. > :54:31.Sadiq Khan called the campaign short-sighted and foolish.
:54:31. > :54:37.Supporters of Egypt's ousted President Mohamed Morsi continue to
:54:37. > :54:47.sit in at a mosque despite clashes in which 72 people died. There has
:54:47. > :54:49.
:54:49. > :54:54.been international condemnation of the violence.
:54:54. > :55:03.That is all from me for now. The next news on BBC One is at midday,
:55:03. > :55:07.but let's have a look at what is coming not after this programme.
:55:07. > :55:13.British Muslims say they are being demonised after the murder of Lee
:55:13. > :55:23.Rigby, are they? And should the church of England be sticking to
:55:23. > :55:25.
:55:25. > :55:28.knee bending, not money lending? The Glasgow band Travis went quiet for
:55:28. > :55:38.five years while its members focused on raising families and writing new
:55:38. > :55:38.
:55:38. > :55:41.material. Credited with creating the right climate for bands such as
:55:41. > :55:48.Coldplay to flourish, Travis enjoyed huge success and worldwide fame from
:55:48. > :55:52.the late '90s onwards. Travis are back with a new album - Where You
:55:52. > :55:56.Stand. It's not out until next month but we're delighted that two members
:55:56. > :55:58.of the band have come in this morning to give us a sneak preview.
:55:59. > :56:03.Fran and Andy, welcome. Where have you been? We have been providing a
:56:03. > :56:10.taxi service for our kids! We went away to write together for one week
:56:10. > :56:17.every couple of months, we did it in a very relaxed way, we didn't talk
:56:17. > :56:22.about touring. It was good. Andy, benefiting from the whole Travis
:56:22. > :56:28.thing because you always rejected to fame in a way, you were the
:56:28. > :56:34.invisible band. Yes, we concentrated on the music which seems to have
:56:34. > :56:41.paid off so far. That is it for this Sunday, indeed for the run of the
:56:41. > :56:44.programme. As usual we are taking a summer break and we will be back on
:56:44. > :56:50.September the 1st. Andrew will be back in the hot seat presenting the
:56:50. > :56:55.show himself. The meantime, whether you are staying at home, or you are
:56:55. > :57:05.off on a break, have a lovely summer. Now we have Travis and first
:57:05. > :57:15.
:57:15. > :57:20.# Another day, I feel the weight of the atmosphere's pressure. # And I
:57:20. > :57:24.can't escape # I try to run, I try to find my feet. # My soul is
:57:24. > :57:28.sticking to the street # I get a move, I got to get myself to clean
:57:28. > :57:37.my shoes # And take the cynic route # I was afar, I'm following the star
:57:37. > :57:41.# Home isn't where you are # And everything is falling into place.#
:57:41. > :57:46.And then we move again # So take the curve and move along # Until we're
:57:46. > :57:56.gone, we're moving on # And on, and on, and on # And on, and on, and on
:57:56. > :58:24.
:58:24. > :58:30.listen to my toy today # On the motorway # And I could feel, the
:58:30. > :58:34.ground beneath my wheels, # Putting me back in my place # And everything