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:00:40. > :00:44.half the week waiting for a pair of hospital doors open, I promise to

:00:44. > :00:48.raise the curtain a bit quicker today. Amid such positive news, not

:00:48. > :00:53.just the royal baby, but sport, the weather, the economy, we will try

:00:53. > :00:58.not to spoil the mood. No guarantees, though! Joining me for a

:00:58. > :01:02.review of the newspaper, Trevor Phillips, formerly of the Equality

:01:02. > :01:06.and Human Rights Commission, and Beth Rigby of the Financial Times.

:01:06. > :01:09.0.6% may not sound a lot, but the growth figures came as music to the

:01:09. > :01:13.ears of government ministers who have been anxiously awaiting proof

:01:13. > :01:18.that the economy is recovering. This morning I am joined by the Business

:01:18. > :01:21.Secretary, Vince Cable, not one for going wildly over the top, but is he

:01:21. > :01:27.at least cautiously optimistic that the UK has turned the corner? Does

:01:27. > :01:30.he have any doubts about the move to pump up the housing market? Ed

:01:30. > :01:35.Miliband has announced more details of how Labour's relationship with

:01:35. > :01:39.the unions will be be formed. There will be a rare, special party

:01:39. > :01:43.conference next spring to vote on the changes. His close ally Sadiq

:01:43. > :01:47.Khan, shadow justice secretary, is here to explain the process, how

:01:47. > :01:52.radical Will the changes be? Also this morning, that Colossus of

:01:53. > :01:56.British broadcasting, Alan Partridge has a new movie out, I will be

:01:56. > :02:01.talking to his co-creator, Armando Iannucci, writer, producer and

:02:01. > :02:05.political satirist. And Sophie Raworth has been meeting two actors

:02:05. > :02:15.whose production of Othello is currently one of the hottest tickets

:02:15. > :02:27.

:02:27. > :02:32.What is to go and wait for my Glasgow band Travis will perform

:02:32. > :02:37.live in the studio for us. All that is coming up, but first the news

:02:37. > :02:40.with Naga Munchetty. Good morning. MPs have criticised

:02:40. > :02:45.the way official migration figures are gathered, saying that they are

:02:45. > :02:48.little better than a best guess. The Commons Public Administration

:02:48. > :02:52.Committee says the statistics are not fit for purpose, although the

:02:52. > :02:58.government disagrees. EU political correspondent Tom Barton.

:02:58. > :03:01.For nearly a week, this ban has been driving around north London, with

:03:01. > :03:06.its uncompromising message. If you are in the UK illegally, either go

:03:06. > :03:09.home or face arrest. It is a message which has angered Nick Clegg, who

:03:09. > :03:14.has complained to the Home Office. The Liberal Democrats say they were

:03:14. > :03:17.not told about this pilot scheme in advance and say the idea is

:03:17. > :03:22.distasteful and divisive. The Home Office says the poster is offering

:03:22. > :03:26.help to those who choose to leave voluntarily, but a refugee charity

:03:26. > :03:31.is threatening to take the Government to court. It is blatant

:03:31. > :03:35.racism, in our opinion - go home get arrested, it is pretty basic stuff,

:03:35. > :03:40.and it speaks to the lowest common to nominate, it speaks of racism.

:03:40. > :03:44.Even keeping track of the number of people coming into the UK legally is

:03:44. > :03:47.proving tricky. In a report published this morning, the Public

:03:47. > :03:51.Administration Committee says the official statistics are a blunt

:03:51. > :03:59.instrument. In the 12 months to June last year, the Government estimates

:03:59. > :04:03.that 515,000 people entered the country and 352,000 emigrated. That

:04:03. > :04:09.would put the net migration figure, immigration minus emigration, at

:04:09. > :04:15.163,000. But because immigration and emigration figures are estimates,

:04:15. > :04:19.that number could be as high as 198,000, or as low as 128,000.

:04:19. > :04:26.Either way, the government is missing its own target of getting

:04:27. > :04:30.that figure below 100,000. The Home Secretary, Theresa May, has

:04:30. > :04:34.revealed she was diagnosed with type one diabetes two months ago. Doctors

:04:34. > :04:37.have told her that she must inject herself with insulin at least twice

:04:38. > :04:41.a day for the rest of her life. In an interview with the Mail on

:04:41. > :04:46.Sunday, she says that the diagnosis came as a shock but that it does not

:04:46. > :04:49.affect the way she does her job. Supporters of Egypt's ousted

:04:49. > :04:52.President Mohamed Morsi continue their city and at a mosque in Cairo

:04:52. > :04:56.despite violent clashes with security forces in which more than

:04:56. > :05:00.70 were killed yesterday. The American Secretary of State, John

:05:00. > :05:02.Kerry, has called on Egyptian leaders to step back from the brink

:05:02. > :05:05.after protesters accused the military of shooting to kill when

:05:05. > :05:11.trying to break up the demonstration.

:05:11. > :05:15.Despite the latest carnage, the camp of the fine set up by Mohamed Morsi

:05:15. > :05:20.supporters after his removal by the army in early June I is very much

:05:20. > :05:25.still here. In fact, if anything, it seems to be growing. There is a lot

:05:25. > :05:31.of anger here about what happened and a determination not to give way.

:05:31. > :05:37.It is a complete massacre. We are peaceful, we do not have a stone, we

:05:37. > :05:41.do not even throw stones. Yesterday there was a massacre, at 2am, these

:05:41. > :05:46.people are peaceful. This is the improvised field hospital which took

:05:46. > :05:50.some of the deluge of casualties. It did what it is good for them and

:05:50. > :05:57.sent the survivors onto proper hospitals. It was a hell, it was a

:05:57. > :06:06.hell. The first time, within six hours, eight hours, we accept that

:06:06. > :06:10.just now more than 100 died and more than 1500 injured patients. Clearly

:06:10. > :06:13.there are preparations here for dealing with more bloodshed. Another

:06:13. > :06:18.collision appears inevitable, with the protesters refusing to move and

:06:18. > :06:21.the interior minister saying they will be cleared away if they don't.

:06:21. > :06:28.Officials say there are some peace initiatives, but they are not very

:06:28. > :06:31.hopeful. So the stage seems set for yet another collision and more

:06:31. > :06:36.bloodshed while the international powers: The interim government to

:06:36. > :06:40.exercise restraint. The longer this and resolve stand-off goes on, the

:06:40. > :06:44.greater the chances that ten children's will once again erupt

:06:44. > :06:51.into more violence. -- tensions. British shoulders have been involved

:06:51. > :06:56.in an operation to clear terrorists from Sangin in Afghanistan. MOD says

:06:56. > :06:59.about 80 troops were sent to the area earlier this month. British

:06:59. > :07:04.Army operations in Afghanistan were previously reported to be scaled

:07:04. > :07:07.down with a view to complete withdrawal in 2014.

:07:07. > :07:10.It is the final day of the Anniversary Games in London, and

:07:10. > :07:16.some celebrated British Paralympians will be returning to compete in

:07:16. > :07:19.Jelavic Stadium. Among them will be wheelchair racer David Weir, won

:07:19. > :07:23.gold four times last year, and the champion blade runner Jonnie

:07:23. > :07:28.Peacock. That is all from me for now, I will be back with the

:07:28. > :07:31.headlines just before ten o'clock. Now it is back to Jeremy.

:07:31. > :07:41.On the front pages today, some of the stories you have just been told

:07:41. > :07:52.

:07:52. > :07:58.section, lots of great athletics in the last couple of days. The Royal

:07:58. > :08:03.Family can reign for ever, says the Telegraph. You do not often see the

:08:03. > :08:08.words forever in a headline. The Sunday Mirror has Savile's secret

:08:08. > :08:15.lair at a record shop in Manchester. Scotland on Sunday, Scots should

:08:15. > :08:20.have a vote on the monarchy, a slightly different Royal story. In

:08:20. > :08:26.the Express, a royal baby celebration. The Observer has Egypt

:08:26. > :08:30.as well, the killings in Egypt in the the political trouble there.

:08:30. > :08:35.With me to review the papers in more detail, Beth Rigby of the Financial

:08:35. > :08:40.Times, and Trevor Phillips, welcome, where do you want to start? I think

:08:40. > :08:47.start where you left off, Egypt. The Observer has this big double page

:08:47. > :08:54.spread, and what it tells us is that the army is slowly, but

:08:54. > :08:58.remorselessly, tightening the screw on the previous president Morsi's

:08:58. > :09:02.supporters, and they are going to eliminate them as a political force.

:09:02. > :09:08.I think the striking thing about this is that the whole region

:09:08. > :09:12.depends on Egypt, it is the biggest country, it is a significant country

:09:12. > :09:16.strategically, it is very young. So this has got to get sorted out,

:09:16. > :09:21.otherwise it is a world catastrophe. I think the Americans are desperate

:09:21. > :09:25.to get stability, and I should say, by the way, there is one other issue

:09:25. > :09:29.here - looking at the coverage, it has been a particular problem for

:09:29. > :09:32.the left of centre newspapers, who greeted the toppling of Morsi was a

:09:32. > :09:38.sort of great thing for democracy, the people in the street. Actually,

:09:38. > :09:45.it was a military coup. Independent carry atypically

:09:45. > :09:52.arresting piece by Robert Fisk, who is at the hospital next to the

:09:52. > :09:55.mosque where there was this attack, and he talks of the blood of 37

:09:55. > :10:01.corpses, of doctors using two weeks worth of medical supplies, so quite

:10:01. > :10:06.graphic and brutal piece about what is happening there. And this is

:10:06. > :10:10.really bad news for the United States. I mean, you know, Morsi is

:10:10. > :10:19.overthrown, and they say a coup is not a coup, because obviously they

:10:19. > :10:25.want to carry on funding Egypt, and they want to prevent a kind of...

:10:25. > :10:29.The Muslim Brotherhood into power... Muslim Brotherhood members backed

:10:29. > :10:33.Morsi, and they are victims in all of this, that is the narrative we

:10:33. > :10:39.are getting. Exactly, but it is an invidious choice for the US - who

:10:39. > :10:42.back, a military that is shooting people in mosques, or do they

:10:42. > :10:47.withdraw funding and they are out of control? It seems to me that there

:10:47. > :10:52.is no choice. We believe in democracy, and sometimes democracy

:10:52. > :10:57.delivers people, Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood, that we, the West, do

:10:57. > :11:01.not like or share a sensibility with. You cannot pick and choose.

:11:01. > :11:06.saw during the Cold War that the US would often backed dictatorships to

:11:06. > :11:10.prevent a Communist regime. This is the difficulty, he was elected, and

:11:10. > :11:15.then he was sort of an elected in a kind of coup, and nobody really

:11:15. > :11:20.knows what type of position to take on that. It is partly a media

:11:20. > :11:24.problem. Every time there is a massive protest, it is written up as

:11:24. > :11:29.the will of the people. Well, actually, the will of the people is

:11:29. > :11:33.what happened at the ballot box. Treating this as... You hear this

:11:33. > :11:38.phrase repeated again and again, sometimes on the BBC, the people say

:11:38. > :11:42.this. Well, actually, they don't say this just because there are 100,000

:11:42. > :11:49.in the square. They say this because they voted for this government.

:11:49. > :11:55.Let's move to the royal baby. We can smile about this at least. People we

:11:56. > :11:59.don't have to vote for! A classic headline on the Telegraph. The Royal

:11:59. > :12:05.Family can rain over us for ever, this is apparently a poll which

:12:05. > :12:09.tells us, surprise, surprise, that three quarters of British people

:12:09. > :12:14.expect the Royal Family to be there. That is the point of the

:12:14. > :12:20.Royal Family, that they are there for ever. They provide, if you like,

:12:20. > :12:26.I think what some poets would call a still, small centre in a turbulence

:12:26. > :12:30.democracy. And, frankly, it has been a good thing for this country.

:12:30. > :12:36.Observer? Well, the Observer is already raining on the parade here.

:12:36. > :12:43.Tim Lewis has a piece from the pressure group Republican, where

:12:43. > :12:47.they basically say, a quarter of readers like them, a quarter really

:12:47. > :12:51.don't, and about 50 people don't really care about the Royal Family,

:12:51. > :12:55.they are agnostic, they do not feel strongly either way whether they

:12:55. > :12:59.should reign over us for ever or not. But I think the point of all of

:12:59. > :13:05.this is that at the moment, it is an institution that waxes and wanes. At

:13:05. > :13:08.the moment, the institution is extremely popular, because we have

:13:09. > :13:12.had the Diamond Jubilee and the royal baby. I have to say, William

:13:12. > :13:16.and Kate, I thought, did a sterling job when they came out of the

:13:16. > :13:21.hospital under intense pressure. When Prince Charles comes to the

:13:21. > :13:23.throne, a much more divisive figure, I will be interested to see what the

:13:23. > :13:30.Sunday Telegraph headlines are like them about the Royal Family, because

:13:30. > :13:34.it might be a period of less love between the nation and the Royals.

:13:34. > :13:38.An interesting story about Theresa May, Trevor, tell us about that.

:13:39. > :13:43.Well, Theresa May has spoken to the Mail on Sunday, and she has revealed

:13:43. > :13:51.that she has type one diabetes, which means she has to take

:13:51. > :13:54.injections twice a day. You sort of wonder why it is a story, it is a

:13:54. > :13:59.private matter, but I think what happened is that she has probably

:13:59. > :14:03.decided that, rather than have this come out, because she was diagnosed

:14:03. > :14:07.a few months ago, have this come out as a kind of great revelation by

:14:07. > :14:12.somebody else, she has taken control of the story and said, this is what

:14:12. > :14:16.it is, that is it, I'm going to get on with my job. If I may say, I have

:14:16. > :14:23.worked with Theresa May for two years, when I was at the commission

:14:23. > :14:26.- she is the nominally industrious. -- the nominally. I do not imagine

:14:26. > :14:34.there is a minute of the day when she is not working or thinking of

:14:34. > :14:39.her job. Often tipped as a future leader. Is that behind this? Well, I

:14:39. > :14:43.wonder whether one element of this is that the story suggests that,

:14:43. > :14:46.because she has this condition, it might bar her from public office,

:14:46. > :14:51.and maybe what she is trying to do is get in before that starts to

:14:51. > :14:55.become an issue. But the truth is that these days all sorts of

:14:55. > :15:01.disabilities, because that is what it is, are managed, controlled, and

:15:01. > :15:04.people do fantastic jobs with all kinds of conditions. I actually

:15:04. > :15:09.spoke to some people in her camp about this, because I was fascinated

:15:09. > :15:13.as to why she was doing this now. She said there was no particular

:15:13. > :15:17.timing, no reason - she has had the illness, it was a good time in the

:15:17. > :15:21.diary to do it, and she plays with a straight bat, and she wants to get

:15:21. > :15:25.it out, the information out. I think, politically, it is

:15:25. > :15:31.interesting that she says it now, because I think she's doing it from

:15:31. > :15:34.a position of strength. She has had a great Spending Review, she dealt

:15:34. > :15:39.with the Woolwich terrorist attack really well, police and crime

:15:39. > :15:44.figures are down, immigration figures are down. Well, maybe not,

:15:44. > :15:50.according to the papers today! So I think she has chosen to do it now,

:15:50. > :15:54.shall able ability but do it from a position of strength, and she is

:15:54. > :16:00.definitely is the favourite to overtake Cameron at the moment. --

:16:00. > :16:10.show a vulnerability. Whether you think she will or not, I think get

:16:10. > :16:20.it out in a position of strength and build from that. We mustn't miss out

:16:20. > :16:21.

:16:21. > :16:26.the van, this story is getting bigger and bigger. This is amazing,

:16:26. > :16:31.who thought this was a good idea? I am astounded because Mark Harper,

:16:31. > :16:41.the minister, is generally speaking safe pair of hands. The idea that

:16:41. > :16:42.

:16:42. > :16:52.you put this around and it is a serious exercise in immigrant

:16:52. > :16:53.

:16:53. > :16:57.control, it is crazy. And would this be regarded as racist? No, just

:16:57. > :17:04.stupid. When you are in a situation when Nigel Farage is saying you have

:17:04. > :17:09.gone over the top with immigration, you know you are in the wrong place.

:17:09. > :17:15.We did an interesting story in the Financial Times on Saturday about

:17:15. > :17:20.the government asking certain people coming on visitor visas from certain

:17:20. > :17:25.countries in the Commonwealth, to pay �1000 upfront comment of the

:17:25. > :17:28.country. Quite popular here, and I think what is happening with this

:17:28. > :17:34.story and that story is that there is a domestic audience that the

:17:34. > :17:38.government are trying to speak to, to say we are tough on immigration.

:17:38. > :17:44.We might not like that story, but I bet if you took that down to your

:17:44. > :17:48.local pub a lot of people might like it. As we are seeing in the other

:17:48. > :17:53.stories today, they haven't got control over the numbers. They don't

:17:53. > :18:03.know what the numbers are, and the problem is one reason the population

:18:03. > :18:10.

:18:10. > :18:16.don't like it is because this is... There is a story about the rape

:18:16. > :18:21.threat and Twitter. This is about the journalist who got Jane Austen

:18:21. > :18:29.on the bank note this week by a long campaign, so she is a really good

:18:29. > :18:37.feminist. She has had absolutely horrific abuse on Twitter, I mean

:18:37. > :18:41.rape threats. I looked at her Twitter feed and there is stuff you

:18:41. > :18:48.could not repeat here. In the past 48 hours there has been this massive

:18:48. > :18:53.campaign to try to fight back. I think about 17,000 people last night

:18:53. > :18:57.signed a petition asking Twitter to act on this. The reason I think this

:18:57. > :19:01.story is interesting on another level is that you saw David Cameron

:19:01. > :19:05.coming out last week against the likes of Google saying it is not

:19:05. > :19:11.enough for you to sit back and say there is a child pornography site,

:19:11. > :19:15.we will take it down, you have two actively seek out these websites and

:19:15. > :19:22.take them down. Maybe this will change Twitter's behaviour because

:19:22. > :19:26.they shouldn't just sit back and wait for somebody to complain about

:19:26. > :19:31.being threatened with rape. They should block these people much

:19:31. > :19:37.sooner. Thank you. The weather has been very active lately with

:19:37. > :19:43.dramatic storms so what is on the dramatic storms so what is on the

:19:43. > :19:46.cards for today and the week ahead? If there were any doubts the long

:19:46. > :19:52.dry spell have ended, those doubts have been thoroughly washed away by

:19:52. > :20:00.some rain we have had overnight. Still a Met Office ample warning in

:20:00. > :20:04.place, and this rain is increasingly spreading across Scotland where

:20:04. > :20:11.there will be localised flooding, travel disruption and some strong

:20:11. > :20:15.winds close to the east Coast. The rain will continue right through to

:20:15. > :20:20.this afternoon in the north-east of Scotland. In southern parts of

:20:20. > :20:25.Scotland it will become a little drier. For Northern Ireland, England

:20:25. > :20:29.and Wales, there will be some bright spells and in those bright spells it

:20:29. > :20:35.will not feel too bad, but some showers as well and some of those

:20:35. > :20:40.will be heavy and thundery, and it will also be breezy. This evening

:20:40. > :20:44.and overnight, the rain clears away to the north, although the Northern

:20:44. > :20:49.Isles will stay wet and a rash of showers continuing elsewhere, some

:20:49. > :20:54.of them still sharp. Further showers through the next couple of days,

:20:54. > :21:02.cooling down for a while, but it may well warm up again towards the end

:21:02. > :21:05.well warm up again towards the end of the week.

:21:05. > :21:08."A love letter to Norwich" is how the legendary broadcaster Alan

:21:08. > :21:11.Partridge describes his new film, Alpha Papa. It premiered last week

:21:11. > :21:15.in his spiritual home and Norfolk did him proud. Partridge, looking

:21:15. > :21:19.debonair in a stylish safari suit, brought a touch of radio glamour to

:21:19. > :21:22.the city. Starring, of course, Steve Coogan, the film sees Alan having to

:21:22. > :21:25.work with the police to defuse a potentially violent siege after a

:21:25. > :21:35.new media conglomerate takes over his radio station, North Norfolk

:21:35. > :21:37.

:21:37. > :21:41.Digital. The film's writer and producer Armando Iannucci is here.

:21:41. > :21:49.I'll be talking to him in a moment. First, a look at how the new film's

:21:49. > :21:56.title came about. Hectic danger day, chap of steel, colossal velocity...

:21:56. > :22:03.What was the one you liked? Luck Alpha Papa because it is radio

:22:03. > :22:13.alphabet for your initials, and also means top daddy. You don't think it

:22:13. > :22:14.

:22:14. > :22:20.sounds foreign? Alpha Papa! It does if you say it like that. I'm pleased

:22:20. > :22:28.to see you are still laughing at the material. Alan always makes me

:22:28. > :22:34.laugh, I think that is why he has been going for so long. He makes

:22:34. > :22:41.Steve and myself laugh, we reminisce about him when we meet, we never

:22:41. > :22:46.tire of him. Has he changed a lot since the original? Yes, as a sports

:22:46. > :22:53.reporter he had much more of a John Motz and voice, and Steve was

:22:53. > :22:59.younger, he looked about 12, and he was more of an exaggerated

:22:59. > :23:03.caricature of presenter. We see him now, he has grown into himself. He

:23:03. > :23:09.has a paunch, which Steve has generously grown himself for the

:23:09. > :23:14.film, and I think he feels more relaxed. He has given up the dream

:23:14. > :23:20.of being a big national staff. He has his own radio show in Norwich,

:23:20. > :23:29.then something happens in film that could potentially put him on the

:23:29. > :23:38.national stage again. He is trying to dress younger will stop he has

:23:38. > :23:45.that 2005 presenter of top gear look. Are you on any medication?

:23:45. > :23:50.have aggressive athlete 's foot but that is the only thing. Do you

:23:51. > :23:59.suffer from panic attacks? Do I look like I do? I have had one panic

:23:59. > :24:05.attacks in a car wash which was because of the angry brushes coming

:24:05. > :24:09.towards me. Does the idea of weaponry trouble you? No, I have

:24:09. > :24:19.fired several rifles at funfairs, but I have never fired one in

:24:19. > :24:19.

:24:19. > :24:24.anger. It is a combination of arrogance and weakness. Yes, he is

:24:24. > :24:29.an optimist and he is very confident about himself, the perfect

:24:29. > :24:39.broadcaster in that when the light comes on he will talk, she fills a

:24:39. > :24:45.vacuum. Speak without thinking is his motto. Dead air is a crime! Over

:24:45. > :24:52.attention to tiny detail that annoys most people around him. When his

:24:52. > :24:58.character came about it was like a spoof news show, and what was the

:24:58. > :25:03.story? I said to Steve we need a sports reporter, have you got a

:25:03. > :25:09.voice that would sum up all sports reporters, and he came up with this

:25:09. > :25:15.voice, and instantly someone else in the room said he is an Alan, and

:25:15. > :25:21.someone else said and Partridge, and we had an instant idea of his

:25:21. > :25:25.aspirations, how the news reporters were laughing at him because he only

:25:25. > :25:33.covered sport, how he wanted to get on television, and he looked up to

:25:33. > :25:38.Michael Parkinson rather than Angela Rippon. It happened instantly and we

:25:38. > :25:43.knew there was a character who had a lot of potential, but we didn't

:25:43. > :25:48.realise he would still be around 22 years later. For a writer it must be

:25:48. > :25:56.the moment you live for when something appears and you think this

:25:56. > :26:04.will last. We didn't see � 's in our eyes, but we thought this is funny.

:26:04. > :26:14.We thought it would gained a cult audience, we were in our mid-20s

:26:14. > :26:14.

:26:14. > :26:20.then, and we had no idea we -- it would gradually infect the society

:26:20. > :26:26.the way it has now. Looking at your political work, do you look at the

:26:26. > :26:36.kind of politics we do here and think actually you cannot write

:26:36. > :26:40.

:26:40. > :26:44.anything funnier than that? stopped The Thick Of It because I

:26:44. > :26:54.felt we had said everything that needed to be said and now it is more

:26:54. > :27:01.

:27:01. > :27:05.important to ask questions about how to fix it. Thank you for joining us.

:27:05. > :27:08.You may have missed it amid the excitement over the royal baby, but

:27:08. > :27:11.last Monday evening Ed Miliband announced he wants to hold a special

:27:11. > :27:14.conference of the Labour party next spring to vote on proposed changes

:27:14. > :27:17.to Labour's relationship with the trade unions. He wants individual

:27:17. > :27:20.union members to make a positive decision to join the party rather

:27:20. > :27:24.than being automatically affiliated. But he's been warned that a system

:27:24. > :27:27.of opting in could lead to a huge drop-off in the party's income. The

:27:27. > :27:31.Shadow Justice Secretary, Sadiq Khan, takes the lead for Labour on

:27:31. > :27:33.party funding issues, and he's with me now - good morning. How will this

:27:33. > :27:43.special conference work? Ed Miliband has said he wants to make our party

:27:43. > :27:48.more open, and he has asked Lord Ray Collins to prepare an interim

:27:48. > :27:52.document this morning which will open consultation with the various

:27:52. > :27:56.parts of the Labour family and next spring we will have a special

:27:56. > :28:02.conference where the Labour Party will decide whether to approve the

:28:02. > :28:06.changes Miliband has announced all to vote against them. Because trade

:28:06. > :28:12.unions are very much part of the family, they will have 50% of the

:28:12. > :28:19.vote at the conference. We are proud of our history with trade unions, we

:28:19. > :28:22.have access to 3 million hard-working people including

:28:22. > :28:28.nurses, technicians, factory workers, and we want to make the

:28:28. > :28:38.link stronger and to give them a bigger say in the way to do that is

:28:38. > :28:39.

:28:39. > :28:44.to let them opt in. You want to reshape your relationship and they

:28:44. > :28:49.are deciding, it doesn't make sense. If the trade unions are happy about

:28:49. > :28:54.this, they will vote against and we will lose the opportunity to change

:28:54. > :28:59.the rules, but we are hoping we can persuade them this is the right

:28:59. > :29:02.thing for the Labour Party. The country needs a reformed party

:29:02. > :29:08.firing on all solicitors and that is why Ed Miliband has announced these

:29:08. > :29:12.changes. We are hoping the trade unions will see the strength in

:29:12. > :29:19.this, we want them to have a greater say in the direction of the party to

:29:19. > :29:24.make was more electable in 2015. is a synthetic showdown because you

:29:24. > :29:28.want Ed Miliband to get stuck into the unions to win more votes in the

:29:28. > :29:38.south of England. Of that was the case Len McCluskey would not be

:29:38. > :29:39.

:29:39. > :29:45.criticising. He raised him!Know from he warned us we would be losing

:29:45. > :29:50.millions of pounds worth of trade union money. What will you do about

:29:51. > :29:59.that? We will find other ways. We have seen in America how Barack

:29:59. > :30:04.Obama has had donations, and how in France people have been making small

:30:04. > :30:10.contributions. It is not legitimate for hedge funds managers or for

:30:10. > :30:15.bankers to bankroll the Conservative party. It is really state funded, we

:30:15. > :30:19.don't want that, we want to increase the numbers of people contributing

:30:19. > :30:29.to the party. If more people paid a small amount, that would be a good

:30:29. > :30:34.way of raising money. We think there should be a cap of �5,000. This is

:30:34. > :30:41.not just about money, it is about in some way breaking the link between

:30:41. > :30:46.Labour and the unions. Where does this go in your conference? It is

:30:46. > :30:50.not about breaking the link. Rather than the bus driver or factory

:30:50. > :30:53.worker, when they join the trade union, having the option to opt out,

:30:53. > :30:58.we want to have a relationship with them throughout the process of them

:30:58. > :31:04.and wish to be affiliated, to come to party meetings, to come to events

:31:04. > :31:07.in my constituency. Will unions still have a third of the votes in

:31:07. > :31:10.leadership contests? That is an important question. One of the

:31:11. > :31:14.things that Ray Collins is looking at is the knock-on consequence of

:31:14. > :31:18.these changes that Ed Miliband has announced. For example, it may lead

:31:18. > :31:22.to a change in the way we elect our leader. Ed Miliband has announced

:31:22. > :31:29.you can be a registered supporter to take part in alien ship contest.

:31:29. > :31:33.That may lead to changes in relation to how we make policy. Ray Collins

:31:33. > :31:38.is looking at the consequences of the changes in Ed Miliband's

:31:38. > :31:43.announcement. If Unite have behaved so appallingly, will you give back

:31:43. > :31:47.the �8 million you have accepted from them since the last election?

:31:47. > :31:52.No-one is saying that. You called the police in at Falkirk! There have

:31:52. > :31:56.been allegations about membership recruitment, we have had an

:31:56. > :32:01.investigation. We asked police to investigate, the police have found

:32:01. > :32:07.no allegations of criminality. what is the problem? We will

:32:07. > :32:09.continue with disciplinary hearings. The problem is this, it is 2013, and

:32:09. > :32:13.it is not acceptable to have a system where individual trade union

:32:13. > :32:20.member is not aware some of their fees are paid to the Labour Party.

:32:20. > :32:25.Some of them are conservatives or may even be Liberal Democrat voters.

:32:25. > :32:29.We think you should have a choice to opt in. We think you, as a

:32:30. > :32:34.hard-working bus driver, factory worker, electricity, ought to play a

:32:34. > :32:38.part in Labour Party policy. Before you go, this campaign on the side of

:32:38. > :32:45.the bus which is going around six boroughs, go home or face arrest, it

:32:45. > :32:52.is aimed at illegal immigrants. is not aimed at illegal immigrants.

:32:52. > :32:55.Yvette Cooper has been silent on it, why is that? The shadow

:32:55. > :32:59.immigration spokesperson has spoken. Yvette Cooper has not spoken. You

:32:59. > :33:02.have a member of a team, the shadow immigration minister, not

:33:02. > :33:06.unreasonably, has given a statement during because of the week, and

:33:06. > :33:10.another one today. You either believe that politics is a team

:33:10. > :33:16.sport, or just one person running the show. Do you believe it is

:33:16. > :33:19.racist? It is short-sighted and foolish. It is an attempt to win

:33:19. > :33:25.over UKIP voters. What evidence is there that people have left the

:33:25. > :33:29.country as a consequence of these advertisements? Anyone that buys

:33:29. > :33:32.anything from the back of a lorry is foolish, and that includes this sort

:33:32. > :33:37.of silly poster. So you do not think they should be doing it. I have seen

:33:37. > :33:41.no evidence it will work. Get out or be arrested is not the way to get

:33:41. > :33:45.people out of the country. The Government should have borders that

:33:45. > :33:49.work, so we know who is coming in and going out, they should enforce

:33:49. > :33:55.immigration policies, rather than doing that, this is a silly gimmick.

:33:55. > :33:59.Thank you very much, steady calm. Othello is as tense and tragic as

:33:59. > :34:04.any of Shakespeare's plays with almost no subplot for release,

:34:04. > :34:07.highly pressurised, and when that pressure is released, the ensuing

:34:07. > :34:15.violence is shocking. The National Theatre's production is being

:34:15. > :34:20.lionised by critics and audiences alike. Adrian Lester plays the Moor,

:34:20. > :34:26.and it also stars Rory Kinnear. Here is a brief look at Nicholas

:34:26. > :34:32.Hytner's modern version set on an overseas military base. Jealousy is

:34:32. > :34:42.the green eyed monster which does Mark. Look to your wife, Observer

:34:42. > :35:01.

:35:01. > :35:06.well, with Cassio Let me hear you at the Olivier Theatre. Adrian

:35:06. > :35:13.Lester began by explaining how he and Rory Kinnear got into character.

:35:13. > :35:17.Between us, we worked out quite carefully, in rehearsal, the moments

:35:17. > :35:22.that went through Othello's armour, where Iago said the lines that went

:35:22. > :35:28.through and really chimed with something, with the vulnerable side

:35:28. > :35:34.of Othello, something that he would attack to defend. And the idea of

:35:34. > :35:41.his love for Desdemona, his military standing and the uniform, all the

:35:41. > :35:45.pride he takes in that, those things make him very vulnerable. Iago is

:35:45. > :35:49.one of those characters that literary critics have been puzzling

:35:49. > :35:53.about for centuries, trying to solve them. How did you approach him as a

:35:53. > :35:56.character? You have to think about how long he has been in the army,

:35:56. > :36:00.along he has served with Othello, the relationship they have developed

:36:00. > :36:04.over 20 years. You cannot trust what he says, because he always seems to

:36:04. > :36:08.be lying. He believes Othello and slept with his wife, and whether or

:36:08. > :36:13.not it is true, he is going to pursue him as if it is the truth.

:36:13. > :36:17.That was the key ingredient to why he starts where he does, but the

:36:17. > :36:22.murderous nurse and the vital element of the play is not there at

:36:22. > :36:28.the beginning. There is a sense of it starting quite light, and then

:36:28. > :36:31.really closing in. The set helps, it is a brilliant set, and it really

:36:31. > :36:36.concentrate the power of the play and makes it very claustrophobic,

:36:36. > :36:40.and the lighting brings up the heat and the Hayes of being stationed in

:36:40. > :36:48.a hot country. It is a bit like being at Camp Bastion, why has the

:36:48. > :36:53.military theme been so important. is a really military play. You are

:36:53. > :36:56.expecting a play about a war between the Turks and the Venetians, and

:36:56. > :37:00.then at the beginning of the second act, the Turks are drowned on their

:37:00. > :37:06.way to Cyprus and there is no war. So it then becomes an examination of

:37:06. > :37:11.how soldiers interact together, when there is no outlet for that pent-up

:37:11. > :37:15.aggression. But Nicholas Hytner, the director, was so intent on making it

:37:15. > :37:20.such a central theme, deployed a military adviser, somebody who had

:37:20. > :37:23.worked in the army for 32 years, to make sure that he got it right, the

:37:23. > :37:28.sense of betrayal is absolutely at the heart of it, isn't it? It is, it

:37:28. > :37:32.is funny how much Major General Jonathan David Shaw came in to

:37:32. > :37:36.advise us, and it is amazing how much of the play really chimed with

:37:36. > :37:40.his modern boots on the ground experience of being in the army, and

:37:40. > :37:45.he talked to us in rehearsal about some of the situations of being in

:37:45. > :37:49.bunkers for months on end, because the enemy were lobbing mortar over

:37:49. > :37:51.into the compound, and they slept in these bunkers. And he talked about

:37:51. > :37:57.soldiers getting distressed or needing psychiatric health because

:37:57. > :38:01.of the stuff they have been through, and all of its chimed brilliantly

:38:01. > :38:05.with what he saw in the play. It made complete sense to him, the idea

:38:05. > :38:09.of being passed over and seeking revenge. The production is at a big

:38:09. > :38:13.impact, and it is going to be on at the cinema now. Go up the

:38:13. > :38:18.broadcasters on the 26th of September. So it will appeal to a

:38:18. > :38:25.much wider audience. I have done a couple of these live, Hamlet, and I

:38:25. > :38:32.think probably when the NT Life was first mooted, I was here at the

:38:32. > :38:36.time, and I think I did not really see how the experience of going to

:38:36. > :38:42.the theatre could be captured by a camera and could be experienced by

:38:42. > :38:49.such a wide range of people. I am still worried! He has done it, so I

:38:49. > :38:53.keep picking his brains. I assure him, it is going to be all right!

:38:53. > :38:56.The camera teams are in from the first day of rehearsals, it is not

:38:56. > :39:00.the same as being in the theatre, but it is the closest equivalent if

:39:00. > :39:05.you live in America or Australia, the nearest you are going to get,

:39:05. > :39:11.and it is almost as good, I am assured. And the letters after, the

:39:11. > :39:14.letters one got from people, having driven from their small town in

:39:14. > :39:17.Texas, driving three hours to the nearest cinema that shows it because

:39:17. > :39:22.of their passion for Shakespeare, that was quite overwhelming, the

:39:22. > :39:28.response. You are well experienced in front of television cameras, so

:39:28. > :39:34.many people around the world know you from Hustle. A con artist,

:39:34. > :39:40.great! You got lessons in drifting. Yes, it all sort of chimed with what

:39:40. > :39:47.you learn about body language as an actor, card tricks, learning to play

:39:47. > :39:50.poker, anyone shuffling cards. How to lift the aces and all of that, do

:39:50. > :39:54.things with Collins, how to pick pockets.

:39:54. > :39:57.If something seems too good to be true, it almost certainly is. Always

:39:57. > :40:00.look a gift horse in the mouth unless you don't care whether it has

:40:00. > :40:04.deep. And you cannot cheat an honest man.

:40:04. > :40:10.One of the things the guys said, he said, where'd you think pickpockets

:40:10. > :40:14.normally stand on June trains? You know the warning sign, where it says

:40:14. > :40:18.beware of pickpockets? They are around there, because when human

:40:18. > :40:22.beings see the sign, you instinctively go, oh, you check

:40:22. > :40:26.where your wallet is. You have just told everyone around you where it

:40:26. > :40:30.is, sometimes the back pocket. Instinctively, you will glimpse it

:40:30. > :40:37.am and you will go, it is still there. The pickpocket will know,

:40:37. > :40:41.OK, back left. I will remember that, that is fantastic! You can also

:40:41. > :40:46.remember that for James Bond. not to make him angry because he has

:40:46. > :40:54.learned a few things! You have had a fantastic run in the last two.

:40:54. > :40:57.was a smaller part in Quantum Of Solace, but you got to see the

:40:57. > :41:02.machinations of a huge movie like that, and everything that comes with

:41:02. > :41:08.it. We ended up going to Panama as well, and this one, it was a larger

:41:08. > :41:12.part, but I think the furthest I went was Buckinghamshire, so

:41:12. > :41:17.hopefully in the next one I will get some more glamorous hotspot again.

:41:17. > :41:23.It is coming from MI6, the data packet is linking to our network.

:41:23. > :41:26.This is behind our firewall. We should shut down. Track it!It

:41:26. > :41:32.carries an enormous heft and popularity. I think my third day of

:41:32. > :41:40.filming, that little worm of doubt came in that said, everybody is

:41:40. > :41:45.going to watch this... And just a slight sweat started! A slight heart

:41:45. > :41:50.murmur! And you realise that you cannot think about that, you cannot

:41:50. > :41:56.think, you know, about its effect or popularity - you have just got to do

:41:56. > :41:59.the job. Thank you very much. Rory Kinnear and Adrian Lester

:41:59. > :42:01.talking to Sophie Raworth, and the National Theatre production of

:42:01. > :42:06.Othello will be relayed live in cinemas around the country and

:42:06. > :42:11.around the world on 26th of September.

:42:11. > :42:18.Now, ever since the financial crash of 2008, the state of the economy

:42:18. > :42:22.has dominated British politics. It has it seemed that flat lining was

:42:22. > :42:25.the best it could do, but ministers are beginning to seem cautiously

:42:25. > :42:29.optimistic. Vince Cable is an economist by profession, so he

:42:29. > :42:33.should know what is going on, and he is here now, good morning. What kind

:42:33. > :42:37.of growth is this? Is it sustainable? I think your phrase

:42:37. > :42:41.cautious optimism was right. We do not yet know if it is sustainable,

:42:41. > :42:46.because it will be to go on for some years, and it will need to be the

:42:46. > :42:48.right kind, because we cannot repeat the mistakes of the past which led

:42:49. > :42:52.to the financial crisis, we have to make sure that growth is in exports,

:42:52. > :42:57.business investment, and it is targeted for the long-term, which is

:42:57. > :43:02.what we are trying to do through our industrial strategy. Manufacturing

:43:02. > :43:06.is down 10% on the boom level, GDP is down 3%, so we locked into a

:43:06. > :43:10.permanently lower setting here? financial Christ did enormous

:43:10. > :43:15.damage, and we are a poorer country as a result, and we are having to

:43:15. > :43:18.rebuild it in the right way. -- the financial crisis. Actually, there

:43:18. > :43:21.are some good things happening in manufacturing, the car industry,

:43:21. > :43:25.aerospace, and some of those other sectors, but we have got to keep

:43:25. > :43:29.that going for a number of years, so we have to concentrate on skill

:43:29. > :43:33.training, building up innovation, developing procurement within the

:43:33. > :43:39.UK. So it is a long-term strategy, and jumping on a few quarters of

:43:39. > :43:43.figures does not result. All kinds of things, as a result of us getting

:43:43. > :43:47.into growth. For example, one of your ministers, Matthew Hancock,

:43:47. > :43:51.says firms have a duty to employ Brits, do you agree with that?

:43:51. > :43:54.way he put it, I do not have any question. He is not talking about

:43:54. > :43:57.compulsion or discrimination. He is saying that we should be trying to

:43:57. > :44:01.make sure that British people, particularly young people, are

:44:01. > :44:11.trained so that they can take jobs that are available, and we are

:44:11. > :44:12.

:44:12. > :44:14.competing in a single market across Europe, and it is right that we

:44:14. > :44:17.encourage British people to be employed. A sense of duty on the

:44:17. > :44:20.employer, that is what he was talking about. I would echo that in

:44:20. > :44:21.another way, and one of the things I am trying to do through our

:44:21. > :44:25.industrial strategies encourage our British manufacturers to use British

:44:25. > :44:28.supply chains. I do not use the word duty, but I encourage them, and if I

:44:28. > :44:31.find the big producers in the North Sea are buying in all their

:44:31. > :44:37.platforms and sold from overseas, I challenge them. I think what Matthew

:44:37. > :44:40.is saying is very similar to that. But a lot of people preferred to

:44:40. > :44:44.recruit from abroad, possibly because they can pay them less. They

:44:44. > :44:47.may even pay them below the minimum wage. Well, that is completely wrong

:44:47. > :44:52.and it is illegal, and indeed there is a point at which the issues

:44:52. > :44:58.around low pay and illegal immigration intersect, and I am now

:44:58. > :45:04.working with HMRC to have a much tougher crackdown on employers who

:45:04. > :45:08.do employ people with the minimum wage. We are going to make it easier

:45:08. > :45:12.to bring prosecutions and make sure that illegal behaviour is stopped.

:45:12. > :45:17.What about this Travis we have been talking about, going around six

:45:17. > :45:27.paras with the message go home or face arrest for people who are here

:45:27. > :45:29.

:45:29. > :45:33.illegally, is it racist? I wouldn't use that word, but it is stupid.

:45:33. > :45:38.think it is offensive, and it is designed apparently to create a

:45:38. > :45:43.sense of fear in the British population we have a vast problem

:45:43. > :45:47.with illegal immigration. We have a problem, but it is not a fast one

:45:47. > :45:53.and has to be dealt with in a measured way and that is why I have

:45:53. > :45:58.said we have to crack down on employers abusing Lope. There is a

:45:58. > :46:03.report out saying we cannot have much confidence in the immigration

:46:03. > :46:09.statistics anyway so the problem could be worse than we think.

:46:09. > :46:14.not a totalitarian state, we don't count every single person, but it is

:46:14. > :46:22.difficult being an immigrant in Britain. You cannot work or have

:46:22. > :46:26.access to benefits. The argument about those numbers, which was

:46:26. > :46:31.released this morning by the select committee, it only really matters if

:46:31. > :46:37.you are pursuing some target and there is this net immigration figure

:46:37. > :46:41.which the Conservatives are very preoccupied by. This idea that you

:46:41. > :46:46.are pursuing the figure is very misleading because amongst other

:46:46. > :46:51.things, the largest number of people counted as immigrants are overseas

:46:51. > :46:56.students, who are visitors but under the United Nations classification

:46:56. > :47:05.they are regarded as immigrants but they are good for the country.

:47:05. > :47:11.far as the van ghost, one more question, it is your Government that

:47:11. > :47:15.has done it, has there been a row about it? I certainly wasn't

:47:15. > :47:22.consulted, but it is a pilot study that has stopped and we will look at

:47:23. > :47:29.the results. Do you want it continued? I cannot see I would be

:47:29. > :47:33.in favour of it but let's see what it produces. It was stupid and

:47:33. > :47:43.offensive and it is unlikely it will continue. People are still on tight

:47:43. > :47:45.

:47:45. > :47:52.budgets, do you, like the Archbishop of Canterbury, want to port Wonga

:47:52. > :47:55.out of business? I would not single out one company, but there are many

:47:55. > :48:00.people who operate through payday lenders on owner as terms and it is

:48:00. > :48:05.all very well to condemn that but you have got to offer an

:48:05. > :48:12.alternative. The best alternative is credit unions and we are promoting

:48:12. > :48:17.it, giving them �38 million to provide an alternative. So you could

:48:18. > :48:24.work with the Archbishop of Canterbury on this? Yes, I think it

:48:24. > :48:34.is important for a church to give practical help and that is what he

:48:34. > :48:38.

:48:38. > :48:42.is doing. Talking this week about banks that are not lending and all

:48:42. > :48:50.of that, but help me understand this because you argued against debt

:48:50. > :48:58.levels during the boom, you were worried about banks splurging too

:48:58. > :49:01.much. We want banks to take people's savings and channel them

:49:01. > :49:05.into productive investment through small and medium-sized companies and

:49:05. > :49:11.they are not doing that. Manufacturers are struggling to

:49:11. > :49:16.raise credit and that is what I was referring to. They are not doing it

:49:16. > :49:25.because they have been told to shore up their balance sheets. We don't

:49:25. > :49:29.want the banks toppling over again so they have got to have a sensible

:49:29. > :49:34.balance and not overreact. What is wrong with nationwide which seems to

:49:34. > :49:41.have gone back into house loans like there is no tomorrow, what's wrong

:49:41. > :49:45.with them being told to keep 3% of the money they are lending as cash?

:49:45. > :49:50.And mutual building societies are crucial to provide proper

:49:50. > :49:57.competition with the banks. There was a prospect a year ago that song

:49:57. > :50:03.would get into business lending, and the nationwide is having to withdraw

:50:03. > :50:13.from that because of these tough capital requirements. Staying on

:50:13. > :50:18.housing, and there is this Help To Buy scheme which essentially allows

:50:18. > :50:28.people access to Government cash to buy a house. We are back to stuff

:50:28. > :50:31.

:50:31. > :50:34.you were warning about in the 2000s. The Help To Buy scheme is

:50:34. > :50:41.actually quite complex. One part is already operating, providing

:50:41. > :50:45.mortgages against new homes and nobody has questioned that. The

:50:45. > :50:51.proposal to provide a guarantee for a limited range mortgage could be a

:50:51. > :50:55.problem, it could inflate the market, it could do, but if it is

:50:55. > :51:01.properly designed it could be a useful addition. The Canadians have

:51:01. > :51:05.a guarantee scheme for the insurance that underlies the market and it has

:51:05. > :51:10.stabilised it. You are right, we mustn't risk returning to the

:51:10. > :51:16.problems of the last decade when housing was out of control but the

:51:16. > :51:22.real problem is housing supply. The current numbers are about 100,000

:51:22. > :51:28.per year, hopelessly inadequate. That is the point, you put this

:51:28. > :51:33.money into getting people to compete with each other to rack up the price

:51:33. > :51:37.of existing houses when people say you should be building more houses.

:51:37. > :51:44.Yes, this was a disaster we are trying to come back from and the

:51:44. > :51:50.Government has taken measures on housing supply. Social housing?That

:51:50. > :51:59.is where the gap is, and the Liberal Democrat conference, at that we will

:51:59. > :52:04.be talking about that. It is a big problem area. HS2, the high-speed

:52:04. > :52:09.rail link, you have suggested recently it may not go ahead. You

:52:09. > :52:14.said we are still looking at it. Obviously the Government is

:52:14. > :52:20.continuing to look at it. We have got to do proper cost benefit

:52:20. > :52:26.analysis. Could it be cancelled?The Government is not remotely

:52:26. > :52:31.considering cancelling it. It is a big project with major benefits in

:52:31. > :52:37.reducing the gap between North and South in economic terms, it will

:52:37. > :52:44.increase capacity, but it has got to make economic sense. Getting more

:52:44. > :52:51.expensive every day. That is why the evaluation is our continuing.

:52:51. > :52:57.who watch television will think that all right, they are not 100% on it.

:52:57. > :53:03.The project has got to produce benefits for the country, but you

:53:03. > :53:07.cannot have governments switching on and off these projects for decades

:53:07. > :53:13.because nothing happens. The David Cameron interview last week had from

:53:13. > :53:17.speculating about life post election and he had this telling phrase where

:53:17. > :53:24.he said he was looking forward to leading Conservative only

:53:24. > :53:31.Government. It couldn't be clearer, he doesn't you. We are not looking

:53:31. > :53:38.to work with them, we are back with distance between the two parties. At

:53:38. > :53:44.the next election we will be competing independently, competing

:53:44. > :53:51.on our own record which we are proud of as an independent party. So you

:53:51. > :53:57.are also looking forward to being out on your own? We will be out on

:53:57. > :54:00.our own campaigning independently. Now the news headlines. A group of

:54:00. > :54:06.MPs have criticised the accuracy of official figures showing the number

:54:06. > :54:08.of people who are coming to live in Britain. The Government has rejected

:54:08. > :54:13.the conclusions from the Public Accounts Committee saying that

:54:13. > :54:19.migration is at its lowest level for decades. It comes as a controversial

:54:19. > :54:26.Home Office campaign is due to come to an end. Taking on this programme,

:54:26. > :54:31.Sadiq Khan called the campaign short-sighted and foolish.

:54:31. > :54:37.Supporters of Egypt's ousted President Mohamed Morsi continue to

:54:37. > :54:47.sit in at a mosque despite clashes in which 72 people died. There has

:54:47. > :54:49.

:54:49. > :54:54.been international condemnation of the violence.

:54:54. > :55:03.That is all from me for now. The next news on BBC One is at midday,

:55:03. > :55:07.but let's have a look at what is coming not after this programme.

:55:07. > :55:13.British Muslims say they are being demonised after the murder of Lee

:55:13. > :55:23.Rigby, are they? And should the church of England be sticking to

:55:23. > :55:25.

:55:25. > :55:28.knee bending, not money lending? The Glasgow band Travis went quiet for

:55:28. > :55:38.five years while its members focused on raising families and writing new

:55:38. > :55:38.

:55:38. > :55:41.material. Credited with creating the right climate for bands such as

:55:41. > :55:48.Coldplay to flourish, Travis enjoyed huge success and worldwide fame from

:55:48. > :55:52.the late '90s onwards. Travis are back with a new album - Where You

:55:52. > :55:56.Stand. It's not out until next month but we're delighted that two members

:55:56. > :55:58.of the band have come in this morning to give us a sneak preview.

:55:59. > :56:03.Fran and Andy, welcome. Where have you been? We have been providing a

:56:03. > :56:10.taxi service for our kids! We went away to write together for one week

:56:10. > :56:17.every couple of months, we did it in a very relaxed way, we didn't talk

:56:17. > :56:22.about touring. It was good. Andy, benefiting from the whole Travis

:56:22. > :56:28.thing because you always rejected to fame in a way, you were the

:56:28. > :56:34.invisible band. Yes, we concentrated on the music which seems to have

:56:34. > :56:41.paid off so far. That is it for this Sunday, indeed for the run of the

:56:41. > :56:44.programme. As usual we are taking a summer break and we will be back on

:56:44. > :56:50.September the 1st. Andrew will be back in the hot seat presenting the

:56:50. > :56:55.show himself. The meantime, whether you are staying at home, or you are

:56:55. > :57:05.off on a break, have a lovely summer. Now we have Travis and first

:57:05. > :57:15.

:57:15. > :57:20.# Another day, I feel the weight of the atmosphere's pressure. # And I

:57:20. > :57:24.can't escape # I try to run, I try to find my feet. # My soul is

:57:24. > :57:28.sticking to the street # I get a move, I got to get myself to clean

:57:28. > :57:37.my shoes # And take the cynic route # I was afar, I'm following the star

:57:37. > :57:41.# Home isn't where you are # And everything is falling into place.#

:57:41. > :57:46.And then we move again # So take the curve and move along # Until we're

:57:46. > :57:56.gone, we're moving on # And on, and on, and on # And on, and on, and on

:57:56. > :58:24.

:58:24. > :58:30.listen to my toy today # On the motorway # And I could feel, the

:58:30. > :58:34.ground beneath my wheels, # Putting me back in my place # And everything