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:00:37. > :00:40.Good morning. It's been an increasingly chilly

:00:41. > :00:46.week and it's a difficult time to be a BBC presenter. Searching for

:00:47. > :00:50.youth, Jeremy Paxman has had to grow a trendy beard, and David Dimbleby

:00:51. > :00:52.has been tattooed with a scorpion - something which has a particular

:00:53. > :00:57.resonance, apparently, in the gay community. A nasty glint has come

:00:58. > :01:01.into my editor's eye of late: body piercings? Leather trousers?

:01:02. > :01:06.Branding? Lord know what's coming - I'll keep in touch.

:01:07. > :01:09.And joining me today for our review of the Sunday newspapers - the

:01:10. > :01:12.Labour former Cabinet minister Tessa Jowell, Tim Montgomerie, comment

:01:13. > :01:15.editor of The Times, and after the week of the terrible Philippines

:01:16. > :01:26.typhoon, the head of Save the Children, Justin Forsyth.

:01:27. > :01:29.The Prime Minister was hailed as a god when he met refugees in northern

:01:30. > :01:34.Sri Lanka - victims of the country's long and brutal civil war. How far

:01:35. > :01:37.does a chap have to go to get some proper recognition? He'll be back to

:01:38. > :01:41.earth this week, though, and what faces him? What looks like an

:01:42. > :01:44.increasingly scratchy relationship with his coalition partners, the Lib

:01:45. > :01:47.Dems. There are differences over green taxes, free schools, how to

:01:48. > :01:50.manage the economy. We'll hear from the Deputy Prime Minister, Nick

:01:51. > :01:52.Clegg. Do his party and the Conservatives have a future

:01:53. > :01:56.together? Also this morning: we'll hear from

:01:57. > :01:59.that great, British sporting hero Andy Murray, about his victory at

:02:00. > :02:03.Wimbledon this year, why he was proud to play for Team GB at the

:02:04. > :02:05.Olypmics but also, what role he might play in the debate about

:02:06. > :02:08.Scotland's future. I've been talking to the actor

:02:09. > :02:12.Richard E Grant - whose brilliant turn in Withnail I made that film

:02:13. > :02:15.an instant, and much-quoted, classic. He's revelling in his

:02:16. > :02:19.latest role in a new gangster caper, Dom Hemingway.

:02:20. > :02:23.So, there you go - a show full of some of the great male pin-ups of

:02:24. > :02:25.the age: Andy Murray, Richard E Grant and yes, of course, Nick

:02:26. > :02:28.Clegg. And finally, some virtuoso violining

:02:29. > :02:35.- Janine Jansen and friends play Bach.

:02:36. > :02:42.All that's coming up, but first the news from Naga Munchetty.

:02:43. > :02:47.Good morning. There are calls for more to be done to tackle climate

:02:48. > :02:52.change after the devastation caused by Typhoon Haiyan. The UK Disasters

:02:53. > :02:57.Emergency Committee says the storm should be a wake-up call for United

:02:58. > :03:01.Nations delegates who are meeting this week. The 14 aid agencies say

:03:02. > :03:04.the typhoon has offered a glimpse of the extreme weather events which

:03:05. > :03:13.could become more common if action isn't taken. Tens of thousands are

:03:14. > :03:19.receiving emergency supplies as the aid effort gets underway.

:03:20. > :03:24.The vast US aircraft carrier George Washington is now busy shovelling

:03:25. > :03:27.food and water to those who need it. It's 21 helicopters are visiting

:03:28. > :03:31.remote areas where help has been slow to come. They don't land for

:03:32. > :03:37.fear of being mobbed. They fly over a countryside devastated by what may

:03:38. > :03:41.have been the most powerful storm ever to hit land. Some fear that

:03:42. > :03:46.storms like this will become more common and more damaging if climate

:03:47. > :03:49.change continues. At the start of the United Nations climate talks in

:03:50. > :03:56.Warsaw, delegates stood in silence for three minutes as a tribute to

:03:57. > :03:59.those killed by the typhoon. Outside yesterday, a group of international

:04:00. > :04:05.demonstrators called for governments around the world to take more

:04:06. > :04:08.action, more quickly. That is the view shared by the Disasters

:04:09. > :04:13.Emergency Committee, the 14 British charities who have come together to

:04:14. > :04:17.launch a joint appeal for the Philippines. The charity said the

:04:18. > :04:20.generosity of the public in donating money for aid needs to be matched by

:04:21. > :04:26.a real determination to stop climate change. Whatever the delegates in

:04:27. > :04:31.Warsaw decide when to help the people of the Philippines in their

:04:32. > :04:37.current need. But some hope it might stop others elsewhere suffering in

:04:38. > :04:41.the future. The Prime Minister has rejected a

:04:42. > :04:46.call from a leading expert on public health to lower the age of consent

:04:47. > :04:49.to 15. Professor John Ashton of the Faculty of Public Health says

:04:50. > :04:53.society needs to take stock of the fact that around a third of all boys

:04:54. > :04:58.and girls are having sex while aged 14 or 15.

:04:59. > :05:01.The Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg says he wants to make the coalition

:05:02. > :05:05.to make another increase in the amount people are able to earn

:05:06. > :05:08.before paying income tax. He is calling for the personal income tax

:05:09. > :05:16.allowance to be increased from ?10,000, to ?10,500, just before the

:05:17. > :05:19.general election in 2015. Police are trying to establish

:05:20. > :05:23.whether a body recovered from a well at a house in Surrey is male or

:05:24. > :05:27.female. A postmortem examination will be held later. The body was

:05:28. > :05:34.discovered by workmen who were clearing the garden at the house in

:05:35. > :05:40.warning. Seven men are being held -- That's all from me, for now.

:05:41. > :05:50.Downing Street says the review will be headed by a leading QC and will

:05:51. > :05:58.consider allegations of intimidation and the cause of several industrial

:05:59. > :06:01.disputes. Quantities of food and medicine are

:06:02. > :06:05.starting to reach the people of the Philippines who were hit by the

:06:06. > :06:08.terrible typhoon eight days ago. Our correspondent is intact the band,

:06:09. > :06:12.the worst affected area. This is an area where there are a lot of

:06:13. > :06:16.fishermen whose boats have been destroyed and a lot of people

:06:17. > :06:21.harvesting coconuts, and trees torn up. You expect a major migration

:06:22. > :06:27.once the aid has reached people and the first part of the operation has

:06:28. > :06:31.been successful? Certainly what we are seeing already is that people

:06:32. > :06:37.are leaving town in large numbers. The roads are open, they are taking

:06:38. > :06:42.to vehicles. Before they were on foot, but they want to get out of

:06:43. > :06:45.town. This town doesn't really function at all. Flying over it a

:06:46. > :06:49.couple of days ago, it looked like there was not a single building that

:06:50. > :06:53.was left undamaged. The parts of the town that are probably the poorer

:06:54. > :06:56.parts of the town, much closer to the waterfront, all the buildings

:06:57. > :07:03.made of wood, just decimated. It just looks like a pile of wood.

:07:04. > :07:07.People's homes and livelihoods have been destroyed. That is going to be

:07:08. > :07:12.something they need to think about further down the road. Right now,

:07:13. > :07:19.there is still an urgent need for food, clean water, shelter. And to

:07:20. > :07:23.get the power back on. So that this city can start functioning properly

:07:24. > :07:30.again. We started to see a bit of life returning. It felt like for one

:07:31. > :07:36.week the city was in shock, now it is staring again. Because the roads

:07:37. > :07:40.are cleared there is more activity. People are starting to go about

:07:41. > :07:45.their business and they are clearing up whatever they can, their own

:07:46. > :07:48.homes, the remains of their own homes, and they are also trying to

:07:49. > :07:54.salvage what they can from the debris. It is starting to stir

:07:55. > :07:58.again. There are very short-term concerns and then there will be

:07:59. > :08:04.those long term concerns about how people build up their lives again.

:08:05. > :08:09.If I can ask you about the short-term, what about the outlying

:08:10. > :08:16.villages and communities? Is the aid starting to get through? It is. What

:08:17. > :08:21.we have seen is that because the roads are clear, trucks have been

:08:22. > :08:24.getting through and getting out of town, carrying some aid to the

:08:25. > :08:30.outlying provinces and the other villages. I think on the islands

:08:31. > :08:35.there are 40 villages and we are told that most of those have been

:08:36. > :08:38.reached. We saw 200 tonnes of aid being off-loaded, some of it was

:08:39. > :08:44.going on small boats to villages that can only be reached by the sea.

:08:45. > :08:47.It is starting to trickle out but there has been criticism of the

:08:48. > :08:53.Philippines government for what many think has been a slow response.

:08:54. > :08:59.You heard the story about the call to drop the legal age for sex to

:09:00. > :09:03.15, that makes a splash in the Times, plus a picture of the Pope.

:09:04. > :09:07.It says that people are flocking back to Catholic churches because of

:09:08. > :09:11.his popularity. The Sunday Telegraph, a very different story. A

:09:12. > :09:16.lot of health stories and NHS stories in the papers. There is the

:09:17. > :09:25.Prince of Wales, on the front page of most papers this week. We have

:09:26. > :09:29.the Observer with Lily Allen, her new video is using the -- causing

:09:30. > :09:35.upset and amusement in equal measure. And the story about climate

:09:36. > :09:43.change. One of the big stories we have talked about is whether climate

:09:44. > :09:46.change is behind what happened in the Philippines, should we be

:09:47. > :09:52.changing our policies or is it just hot air? We will be talking about

:09:53. > :09:57.that. The Mail on Sunday, a story about a crystal meth shame of a bank

:09:58. > :10:00.leader, the head of the Co-op bank who has been caught in a terrible

:10:01. > :10:06.sting operation. We won't be talking about that, I suspect. Justin

:10:07. > :10:09.Forsyth from Save the Children, you have chosen the typhoon story and by

:10:10. > :10:15.far the best spread in the Sunday Times. Yes, this is a very good one

:10:16. > :10:18.in the Sunday Times and it sets up the scale of the disaster and what

:10:19. > :10:22.has been done in response. And some of those wider issues like climate

:10:23. > :10:25.change. This has been tough organisations like Save the Children

:10:26. > :10:32.and other members of the Disasters Emergency Committee. We flew a team

:10:33. > :10:38.in before the storm hit and we then had to rescue them. A six person

:10:39. > :10:41.team. I spoke to our team in Tacloban but they are living in a

:10:42. > :10:45.house which doesn't have electricity, the roof is off, they

:10:46. > :10:49.are having to work by torchlight, we don't have fuel. We are distributing

:10:50. > :10:57.aid on foot with some trucks that have come from Manila. The Americans

:10:58. > :11:04.piled in in a huge way, Roger Mentz and -- Raj I'll be back with the

:11:05. > :11:07.headlines just before 10:00am. All countries struggle with an

:11:08. > :11:10.emergency. We saw that America struggled for weeks to be able to

:11:11. > :11:19.get aid to people. After hurricane Katrina. We have actually got a

:11:20. > :11:29.medical team on HMS daring which has been deployed to some of those

:11:30. > :11:36.outlying islands. Tim, you have the same story in the Independent. Yes,

:11:37. > :11:39.it horrible picture of bodies being dumped in a trench, simply because

:11:40. > :11:44.of the need to contain the problem of the spread of disease, which

:11:45. > :11:49.gives an indication of the scale of the tragedy. The news report at the

:11:50. > :11:52.top of the programme mentioned the George Washington aircraft carrier

:11:53. > :11:59.that had come from America. America gets saved bad press for its

:12:00. > :12:07.footprint but this is a case where the supreme power is at its best. --

:12:08. > :12:15.gets a bad press. The good word for America for once. Let's talk about

:12:16. > :12:21.the climate change aspect of it. The BBC has been attacked by the Mail on

:12:22. > :12:26.Sunday for upping the possibility that this is connected with climate

:12:27. > :12:30.change. There is a good piece in the Sunday Times trying to weigh up the

:12:31. > :12:37.balances. We have to be guided by the science. This is regarded as an

:12:38. > :12:42.unprecedented storm, which combined the most severe typhoon and a

:12:43. > :12:49.tsunami, the most severe ever recorded. I think there haven't been

:12:50. > :12:55.very many particularly severe storms over the last ten years. I think the

:12:56. > :13:01.point is this. Tim and Justin have touched on it. This can't be a hit

:13:02. > :13:05.and run operation by the international community. The

:13:06. > :13:10.international community is going to have to be there in the Philippines,

:13:11. > :13:19.assisting a reconstruction for months, in two years. Also -- into

:13:20. > :13:22.years. The long-term agenda is set by the climate change talks and this

:13:23. > :13:28.is the focus of the piece on the front page of the Observer. The

:13:29. > :13:34.climate change talks in Warsaw this week, where the rich countries are

:13:35. > :13:40.being attacked by the poorer nations for backtracking on their

:13:41. > :13:45.commitments. The big U-turn has been Japan. I think this is a very

:13:46. > :13:49.significant development. We have had 20 years since the Kyoto treaty,

:13:50. > :13:57.richer nations keep ROMs into cut carbon emissions. In Warsaw -- keep

:13:58. > :14:02.promising to cut carbon emissions. Japan is not giving up on tackling

:14:03. > :14:05.climate change but rather than using immature technologies, like the kind

:14:06. > :14:10.of wind farms that we are covering Britain with, they are saying, let's

:14:11. > :14:13.invest with green technologies. Don't try to cut emissions with

:14:14. > :14:21.unsustainable, inefficient, an economic technologies. -- an

:14:22. > :14:24.economic Back to you, Andrew. Canada, Australia and Japan are

:14:25. > :14:29.moving in a direction that Britain needs to move in. We have high

:14:30. > :14:33.energy costs but actually are not dealing with the climate change

:14:34. > :14:39.problem. Something radical has to change in the way we tackle this big

:14:40. > :14:43.problem. I think it is right to say, and the scientists say it, that

:14:44. > :14:46.there is not a direct connection between this typhoon and climate

:14:47. > :14:51.change, people cannot prove that. It is not how many happen but the

:14:52. > :14:54.intensity that is the issue. Also in other parts of the world, we have

:14:55. > :14:59.seen an increase in drought. In Africa, West Africa, you would talk

:15:00. > :15:03.to old men in the moat areas and they would say they're used to be a

:15:04. > :15:10.drought every 12 years and now it is every two. There is a big change

:15:11. > :15:16.happening. Part of it is overpopulation. There are complex

:15:17. > :15:24.factors. Let's turn to another story, about lowering the age of

:15:25. > :15:30.consent to 15 from 16, coming from the man in charge of public health

:15:31. > :15:34.in Britain this is John Ashton who has called for a national

:15:35. > :15:40.conversation about dropping the age of legal consent to 15. He makes a

:15:41. > :15:44.lot of very important points about adolescent health, about adolescent

:15:45. > :15:49.sex and I agree with many of them but I don't think this is

:15:50. > :15:58.necessarily the answer, to drop down to 15 when children, in effect, can

:15:59. > :16:06.have sex. Basically the cases that a lot of 15-year-olds are having sex

:16:07. > :16:08.and we should accept that. Exactly, and if they are having sex they

:16:09. > :16:18.should have access to contraception. I'm not sure reducing

:16:19. > :16:28.to 15... It is a moral retreat, pulling the line back to 15. Yes,

:16:29. > :16:33.then what about 14-year-olds and the line keeps moving. There is one

:16:34. > :16:37.third of children who might be having sex and there are two thirds

:16:38. > :16:44.of children who are not and we don't want to put pressure on them to have

:16:45. > :16:47.sex before they are ready. This is in the context of increased

:16:48. > :17:00.sexualisation of culture. There has been a lot in the newspapers about

:17:01. > :17:09.Lily Allen and Miley Cyrus. Yes, and there is a good spread in the

:17:10. > :17:20.Observer taking the Miley Cyrus issues back to teenage girls. Miley

:17:21. > :17:26.Cyrus Is's twerking a betrayal of feminism, and actually what is so

:17:27. > :17:34.great about the response of these young women, all of whom are at

:17:35. > :17:39.Brighton College, is there very good sense and their ability to form

:17:40. > :17:54.independent judgements, that the sexualisation of women around... And

:17:55. > :18:08.the momentum needed for equality. Many people are using the Miley

:18:09. > :18:17.Cyrus video as satirise a shame. I haven't seen it. You might be

:18:18. > :18:23.shocked! I doubted! What about this story, the same? It is the saying

:18:24. > :18:33.topic, the sexualisation that every parent in the country is worried

:18:34. > :18:38.about. The importance of keeping the age of consent where it is is that

:18:39. > :18:43.many young girls feel under pressure to have sex and the law is a

:18:44. > :18:50.protection for them. It means they can say no without the extra

:18:51. > :18:55.authority and protection. I think Tim is right about that but it is

:18:56. > :18:59.also very important that if girls are having sex, that they don't get

:19:00. > :19:04.sexually transmitted diseases and every help is given to them for

:19:05. > :19:09.contraception not to get pregnant. That is part of the bigger issue

:19:10. > :19:25.about who they can talk to. Another huge story this week is the Roma

:19:26. > :19:31.story. Roma are related to travellers, not Romanian, which is

:19:32. > :19:43.very different. The Observer have done a profile of these people in

:19:44. > :19:51.Sheffield. It talks in the Sun about race row boiling in borderless

:19:52. > :19:58.Britain, and it is clear that crime has not gone up in these areas. It

:19:59. > :20:04.is clear there were community tensions before David Blunkett waded

:20:05. > :20:11.into this row. Talking to community leaders and the police, they could

:20:12. > :20:17.not identify one person who had been arrested. We have to be careful not

:20:18. > :20:21.to sensationalise this and fuel racism. We need to get to grips with

:20:22. > :20:26.what the issue is and we need leaders to step forward because it

:20:27. > :20:30.is through dialogue that we will resolve these issues. We will be

:20:31. > :20:37.talking to Nick Clegg about that, and also into the inquiry into

:20:38. > :20:46.Falkirk. For weeks the Prime Minister has been trying to get Ed

:20:47. > :20:54.Miliband to publish his inquiry and now he is doing it himself. I think

:20:55. > :21:02.his focus will be more Grangemouth then Falkirk. Firstly, for the

:21:03. > :21:06.people of Falkirk, who need to be properly represented, the important

:21:07. > :21:21.thing is that new Labour candidate is selected, which will happen in

:21:22. > :21:34.December. Nu Labour candidate? Nu candidate who will take forward the

:21:35. > :21:44.one Labour message. The first thing is to normalise the situation in

:21:45. > :21:49.Falkirk. I think on this inquiry that David Cameron has announced, of

:21:50. > :21:54.course any kind of intimidation of bullying by either side, the bosses

:21:55. > :22:02.or trade unions, is completely unacceptable so when he sets out

:22:03. > :22:09.more detail, this may be a crisis announcement but when he sets out

:22:10. > :22:13.more detail, I'm sure that we will want to incorporate with it. Again,

:22:14. > :22:20.we will talk to Nick Clegg about that, and also his announcement that

:22:21. > :22:25.he will raise the bar for taxation and take more people out of income

:22:26. > :22:30.tax. The cost of living crisis is a big issue at the moment, and the

:22:31. > :22:35.response from the Coalition has been to keep lifting people out of the

:22:36. > :22:41.income tax system. Nick Clegg is making his pitch that this is what

:22:42. > :22:46.the Liberal Democrats want to own. If this is the policy that is

:22:47. > :22:51.pursued, the 5 million poorest paid people in Britain will not benefit

:22:52. > :22:55.because they don't pay income tax. If you do want to help the people

:22:56. > :23:01.who are suffering most from the squeeze, you need to look at things

:23:02. > :23:05.like national insurance and VAT to help the poor. We are getting into

:23:06. > :23:12.the area of cutting taxes but is this now the best way to help people

:23:13. > :23:19.who are being squeezed? We will find out shortly. Prince Charles has been

:23:20. > :23:25.kind of rebranded this week as useful future king. I think he is

:23:26. > :23:50.extremely useful Prince of Wales and future King. The story is about a

:23:51. > :23:58.collaboration with Jimmy Mison's parents, Jimmy was murdered. They

:23:59. > :24:03.are working on a campaign to create safe havens for young people who

:24:04. > :24:10.feel in danger. Very cheap but very easy to do and they are the driving

:24:11. > :24:15.force behind that. Thank you. We have had some beautiful, clear,

:24:16. > :24:17.crisp days in London recently but the first wintry blasts have

:24:18. > :24:29.arrived, including snow. Some people have got to wait longer

:24:30. > :24:35.before we see the wintry blast. Today, and much more clement day,

:24:36. > :24:49.mostly dry across the south with the odd flecks of rain from this thick

:24:50. > :24:56.cloud. This weather front is what brings it. This weather front will

:24:57. > :25:01.move ever forwards towards the north. Another one joins it, and the

:25:02. > :25:15.gap in between brings the opportunity for some frost under

:25:16. > :25:21.torture -- touch of fog. Next week, it will be turning much colder, but

:25:22. > :25:25.before that happens we have another front turning more showery as it

:25:26. > :25:30.makes its journey further south, and then we will see the more wintry is

:25:31. > :25:34.due to the weather, coming into Scotland initially, but by Tuesday

:25:35. > :25:39.across all parts of the British Isles.

:25:40. > :25:49.It took 77 years but in July Andy Murray became the first British man

:25:50. > :25:54.since Fred Perry to win Wimbledon. Since teaming up with Ivan Lendl,

:25:55. > :26:04.his career has gone from strength to strength. Once he was spat at in the

:26:05. > :26:08.street, now he is a national hero. Currently on a break from the game

:26:09. > :26:16.as he recovers from surgery on his back, Andy Murray is using the time

:26:17. > :26:19.to release a book, Seventy-Seven: My Road to Wimbledon Glory, a

:26:20. > :26:31.reflection on his career so far. I caught up with him at the all

:26:32. > :26:36.England, -- All England Club. I didn't deal with my losses very

:26:37. > :26:42.well, it took me sometimes months to start playing well again, whereas a

:26:43. > :26:47.good example is at Wimbledon last year it was the first time I had

:26:48. > :26:52.come off the court, I was unbelievably emotional and upset

:26:53. > :26:57.afterwards, but it is the first time I responded well to it. What does

:26:58. > :27:09.that mean, because you were crying and so forth for a while. I am going

:27:10. > :27:14.to try this and it will not be easy. In the days afterwards, I started to

:27:15. > :27:19.feel much better. Normally after losing those matches, I have found

:27:20. > :27:23.practising and training very tough and I struggled to find motivation

:27:24. > :27:30.but that is the first time I used it in the right way and it motivated me

:27:31. > :27:34.to get much better. In your new book you go through this Wimbledon's

:27:35. > :27:41.final almost ball by ball, it is fascinating account. You talked

:27:42. > :27:52.about your arm shaking, you appear to think you were losing it. Talk

:27:53. > :27:57.about that. I was 40-0 up, and at that moment I was thinking I was

:27:58. > :28:03.about to win Wimbledon, then three points later I had just lost three

:28:04. > :28:08.championship points, and suddenly I am two points away from winning,

:28:09. > :28:13.rather than one. I remember going to the back of the court to get my

:28:14. > :28:18.towel, and I looked down and my arm was shaking and that is when I

:28:19. > :28:22.realised this could get quite ugly very quickly. Thankfully I managed

:28:23. > :28:25.to save some break points away from winning, rather than one. I remember

:28:26. > :28:28.going to the back of the court to get my towel, and I looked down and

:28:29. > :28:30.my arm was shaking and that is when I realised this could get quite ugly

:28:31. > :28:45.very quickly. Thankfully I managed to save some break points and finish

:28:46. > :28:53.the game. Any point will do. APPLAUSE

:28:54. > :29:10.Clearly, Ivan Lendl has had a huge effect on you. Tell you -- me about

:29:11. > :29:16.that relationship. He has also lost Wimbledon finals but went on to be

:29:17. > :29:21.the best tennis player so have talking to him about that has

:29:22. > :29:25.helped. He is very different away from the tennis court and the

:29:26. > :29:31.cameras, he jokes around all the time, but when he is there as a

:29:32. > :29:37.coach and when he was there playing himself, I mean he has spent years

:29:38. > :29:41.working on not showing emotion and giving nothing away. It was nice for

:29:42. > :29:45.me the reason he was getting into the sport again was because he

:29:46. > :29:58.believed in me, but also he didn't need to do it either so he showed

:29:59. > :30:03.confidence in me. I need -- needed that. You have set up your own

:30:04. > :30:06.management company now, you have a Patel in Dunblane, are you starting

:30:07. > :30:15.to think about how to use your wealth? I have started to think

:30:16. > :30:22.about it more over the last year or two. I was not concentrating on it

:30:23. > :30:26.so much before. I am 26 now. I will maybe play for five or six more

:30:27. > :30:33.years. You start to think about what comes after that. We might see Brand

:30:34. > :30:40.Murray, like Brand Beckham? I would not say to the same extent as that.

:30:41. > :30:44.You will not be wearing a sari? I don't think you will see that! You

:30:45. > :30:49.always have to look at different things to do, things away from the

:30:50. > :30:55.courts to keep you interested. When I lose tennis, when I stop playing,

:30:56. > :31:00.I don't have much to fall back on. I need to find other things to do when

:31:01. > :31:04.I finish playing. Like it or not, you are going to be used by the two

:31:05. > :31:09.contending political sides in the Scottish debate. Alex Salmond was

:31:10. > :31:17.waiting at Seoul tire after your victory -- waving a saltire. Are you

:31:18. > :31:22.going to say anything about it? As it gets closer to the time, I think.

:31:23. > :31:28.You need to do what is best for the country and Scotland. What is best?

:31:29. > :31:33.Nearer the time I think we will start to see in more detail, what is

:31:34. > :31:38.going to be the best decision. And then I will make my decision based

:31:39. > :31:42.on that. Do you see yourself taking part in the campaign for one side or

:31:43. > :31:48.another? People will want to grab you and wave you around. I don't

:31:49. > :31:51.think so. I am not massively into politics that much. I can't see

:31:52. > :31:58.myself getting involved in the campaign. You seem like a patriotic

:31:59. > :32:08.Brit, when it came to Team GB, but also fiercely patriotic Scot as

:32:09. > :32:16.well. It is an interesting question. Dunblane means a lot to me, a lot of

:32:17. > :32:20.my family still live there. With tennis, since I have been 12, I have

:32:21. > :32:26.competed for my whole life under Great Britain, since I was a young

:32:27. > :32:32.kid, since the under 12 level and now into the seniors. And obviously

:32:33. > :32:36.at the Olympics. I am proud of being Scottish, I love competing for Great

:32:37. > :32:40.Britain as well and it is something I have done since being a kid.

:32:41. > :32:44.Bizarrely, it is only a few weeks from the season starting again, you

:32:45. > :32:50.have your back injury to get over. Thank you very much for joining us.

:32:51. > :32:58.Men of a certain age who don't dream of being Andy Murray often find

:32:59. > :33:03.themselves dreaming of being Withnail, the cool, alcoholic, witty

:33:04. > :33:08.drifter of the film Withnail I. Richard E Grant's film career has

:33:09. > :33:15.seen him do a fine line in slightly disconcerting rogues. His last --

:33:16. > :33:27.his latest suave but shady character is in the gangster film Dom

:33:28. > :33:34.Hemingway. It is a film of fillers and villains -- violence, villains

:33:35. > :33:57.and villas. Afternoon... Don't think what you are thinking,

:33:58. > :34:02.that is Mr Fontaine's property. Property is a relative term. I am

:34:03. > :34:06.just looking. Much of the action happens on the Cote d'Azur which is

:34:07. > :34:12.a part of the world that Richard E Grant knows and loves. His recent TV

:34:13. > :34:15.series on the modern artists of the area saw him touring the Riviera in

:34:16. > :34:21.sunnier mood. We started by discussing the new film. Dom

:34:22. > :34:24.Hemingway is a completely volcanic character that has been incarcerated

:34:25. > :34:31.in jail for 12 years and is released, and immediately goes on a

:34:32. > :34:38.crime revenge brief. And I am his older, posher, best friend --

:34:39. > :34:44.revenge spree. The sort of straight man to his comedy and dramatic

:34:45. > :34:51.volcanics. Stop stating what you are stating. I will state what I want to

:34:52. > :34:58.state. State it again and I will knock your teeth out. This is Jude

:34:59. > :35:05.Law with ridiculous facial hair and a certain amount of extra weight,

:35:06. > :35:09.looking like he has not seen before. He put on ?30 and he was still they

:35:10. > :35:12.love God, which was infuriating. He grew these warring sideburns but

:35:13. > :35:29.Marco Wolverine sideburns. He plays the character with such

:35:30. > :35:36.undie looted ferocity -- undiluted ferocity. It carries on all the way

:35:37. > :35:41.through the film, I have never watched a gangster film with so many

:35:42. > :35:45.words in it. It is very wordy and that is ameliorated by the fact that

:35:46. > :35:50.there is a lot of action as well. It is a great come from and to Jude Law

:35:51. > :35:55.that people sit off with such utter conviction. You can't go halfway

:35:56. > :36:00.playing Dom Hemingway. Not many of the words will appear on a Sunday

:36:01. > :36:08.morning. His first monologue is a monologue to his manhood in prison

:36:09. > :36:10.which is very funny. As it were. You have the most appalling safari

:36:11. > :36:17.jacket and strange blue shades, it is a very 1980s feel. It is earlier

:36:18. > :36:20.than that. I hate to tell you this. Julien Day and Richard Shepard

:36:21. > :36:26.decided they wanted these Hunter S Thompson glasses, that was the

:36:27. > :36:34.signature of the character and I had to wear 70s retro clothing. There

:36:35. > :36:39.are some people who have the prime of their lives at a certain period

:36:40. > :36:42.in time, with a haircut and their clothing, and they stick with it,

:36:43. > :36:47.they hang on. They don't move on, he is one of those people. You hang on

:36:48. > :36:52.to almost everything but not your left hand in this film. Yes, it has

:36:53. > :36:56.been blown off in a shoot out. I have a wooden hand covered in

:36:57. > :37:01.leather glove. The other thing, there is a huge amount of smoking

:37:02. > :37:06.and drinking, as with Withnail. Not heavy drinker smoker? I have never

:37:07. > :37:11.smoked and I am completely allergic to alcohol. They give you highly

:37:12. > :37:18.rose, nicotine-free cigarettes and apple juice -- honeyrose. The

:37:19. > :37:22.character that you play, I am not the first person to say this is

:37:23. > :37:28.Withnail 25 years on. He has gone down in life, taken some wrong path

:37:29. > :37:40.is made some bad choices and ended up as your character. It is not an

:37:41. > :37:47.tire -- entirely an -- untrue to see it like that. The director rendered

:37:48. > :37:59.a copy of Withnail I out of Tower Records in Sunset Boulevard, after

:38:00. > :38:07.the last -- with the last money that he had, and he did not return it and

:38:08. > :38:09.owed them a huge amount. There is a famous story about Withnail where

:38:10. > :38:14.the director of future with alcohol so you could see what it was like

:38:15. > :38:25.and passed out, is that request Mark -- fuels you with alcohol. Is that

:38:26. > :38:29.true? It is true. On the last day of rehearsal, he said, you have to get

:38:30. > :38:36.absolutely plonkered, so he gave me a bottle of Sam -- champagne and

:38:37. > :38:41.said, try to drink this through the night, so I did manage to in between

:38:42. > :38:47.throwing up and all the rest. . Preceded by a Persian carpet

:38:48. > :39:04.coming out of my mouth. Nicely put. Dom Hemingway is set in a dark, wet,

:39:05. > :39:08.dangerous Riviera. Your art films are set in a sunnier, brighter

:39:09. > :39:13.Riviera. You have a deep knowledge of the painters of the region. I

:39:14. > :39:16.have a great love for them. In order to do a programme like that you have

:39:17. > :39:22.to have that invested in it, otherwise people will sniff out your

:39:23. > :39:27.inauthenticity immediately. The dazzling light of the as you see

:39:28. > :39:28.have attracted some of the most dazzling artists who have picked up

:39:29. > :39:40.a brush. From the moment the Impressionists

:39:41. > :39:46.first discovered this coast, it was artists who shaped the Riviera in

:39:47. > :39:50.our cultural imagination. So that was a very tough gig! Bright shirts,

:39:51. > :39:55.open top car and the Mediterranean for as long as you like. And having

:39:56. > :39:59.access to all of these museums and art work and being the only person

:40:00. > :40:08.in the room am surrounded by Picassos was very tough! I know that

:40:09. > :40:16.Matisse is your top man. I think that... I would take Pierre Ott --

:40:17. > :40:25.the PO at that Picasso painted -- the

:40:26. > :40:32.you have seen through my psychological curtain! Thank you for

:40:33. > :40:35.joining us. The political marriage in Downing

:40:36. > :40:40.Street has seemed prickly this week, with the prime minister musing

:40:41. > :40:44.wistfully about the clarity of single party government, while Nick

:40:45. > :40:47.Clegg insists that compromise in politics can be good for everybody.

:40:48. > :40:51.Are there real differences on the economy which will make it difficult

:40:52. > :40:55.for them to work together? Nick Clegg is with me now. Good morning.

:40:56. > :41:00.You have this new plan in the papers to raise the income tax threshold,

:41:01. > :41:05.and what you call a Lib Dem workers tax bonus. Has this been agreed with

:41:06. > :41:08.the prime minister? It is certainly no secret, I have been going on

:41:09. > :41:11.about this for years and years. I insisted it was our number one

:41:12. > :41:16.priority as a party before the last general election, I insisted it went

:41:17. > :41:22.into the coalition agreement. We are delivering this huge income rate

:41:23. > :41:29.cut, where the amount of money you can earn before income tax goes up

:41:30. > :41:35.to ?10,000. My view having achieved that great threshold is that we need

:41:36. > :41:38.to go further, because as the recovery is finally taking hold, as

:41:39. > :41:41.Mark Carney said, it is very important that as many people as

:41:42. > :41:45.possible feel they are benefiting from it. That is why I call it a

:41:46. > :41:49.workers bonus, because if you can raise it by a further ?500, it is

:41:50. > :41:54.worth dwelling what that means. It would be an extra ?100 in every body

:41:55. > :42:01.'s pockets and take an additional 500,000 people out of paying income

:42:02. > :42:06.tax. You haven't quite answered my question, have you agreed this with

:42:07. > :42:12.the Prime Minister? Is not agreed yet, I would like to deliver it in

:42:13. > :42:16.the Budget. I have had to argue for each step in the increase in the

:42:17. > :42:20.allowance. The Conservatives felt it was not an affordable policy, I have

:42:21. > :42:23.assisted all along that it is affordable because I think it is a

:42:24. > :42:29.fair thing to do. -- I have insisted. We will see it in the

:42:30. > :42:32.Autumn Statement? Not in the Autumn Statement, that is more about

:42:33. > :42:36.delivering many of the commitments we have made in the past few months,

:42:37. > :42:43.for instance free school meals to all young children in primary

:42:44. > :42:45.schools. I think the Budget is an important moment. I need to

:42:46. > :42:49.persuade, that is normal in a coalition government. The

:42:50. > :42:52.Conservatives have tended to have a different set of tax priorities,

:42:53. > :42:59.first inheritance tax cuts for very rich people, then eight cut on the

:43:00. > :43:08.upper rate and then the marriage break -- then a cut on the operate.

:43:09. > :43:16.I think the number of breaks should begin to concede -- continue to be

:43:17. > :43:22.given to people who are struggling to make ends meet. He wants to build

:43:23. > :43:25.up a surplus and therefore austerity is going to be here for a long

:43:26. > :43:31.time, the Prime Minister has said the long thing. Is that the next big

:43:32. > :43:34.argument? I would urge the Conservative and Labour party that

:43:35. > :43:41.it is too important for our country to have parties lurching to the

:43:42. > :43:45.right or left on this. You appear to have this view from the right that

:43:46. > :43:49.taxes should never go up and in a sense you should be shrinking the

:43:50. > :43:52.state to another smaller size in a slightly ideological way. I am not

:43:53. > :43:56.ideological about the size of the state. I think the left are making a

:43:57. > :43:59.mistake in thinking you can repeat the mistakes of the past and borrow

:44:00. > :44:04.and spend more and more. I don't think we should be ideological. It

:44:05. > :44:09.is your code for Conservative Party? No, I think there is an

:44:10. > :44:13.ideology on right and left. On the right the ideology says cut, cut,

:44:14. > :44:18.cut, on the left it says bloat, bloat, bloat. You're not in favour

:44:19. > :44:23.of an ever shrinking state in the next parliament and that is going to

:44:24. > :44:26.be an argument... I am an old-fashioned liberal, I don't want

:44:27. > :44:31.to see the state any bigger than it needs to be and I believe in a more

:44:32. > :44:36.decentralised state. We can strike the right balance in the is to come,

:44:37. > :44:41.whoever is in power and beyond, in bringing down the debt burden as a

:44:42. > :44:45.proportion of the country's wealth, the burden would otherwise rest on

:44:46. > :44:48.the shoulders of our children and grandchildren. Also funding decent

:44:49. > :44:51.public services in a way which millions of people depend upon. This

:44:52. > :44:57.remains a difficult balance to achieve. Your new idea about the tax

:44:58. > :45:05.threshold, another very expensive policy, how will you pay for that?

:45:06. > :45:12.It would cost about ?1 billion, I would ask the people at the very

:45:13. > :45:17.top, perhaps through Munchen tax, to raise that money. Nobody talks about

:45:18. > :45:24.income tax, and that is perhaps the fastest way to raise money, is that

:45:25. > :45:32.at Brunel? This is the biggest change we have seen in a generation

:45:33. > :45:37.in order to provide extra income. There is a lot we can do on tax

:45:38. > :45:42.avoidance. We can ask the super wealthy to pay a little bit extra,

:45:43. > :45:49.not to go after them in a recruit in a tree way, but that is the way I

:45:50. > :45:53.would pay for this tax cut. The Conservatives have said they don't

:45:54. > :46:00.want to ask the wealthiest. We will find other ways, I hope. You have

:46:01. > :46:07.been accused by one Conservative MP of ambushing the Prime Minister on

:46:08. > :46:13.this one. No, I was talking to David Cameron and George Osborne about

:46:14. > :46:19.this some time ago. Your office has 17 parameters to measure social

:46:20. > :46:28.mobility in this country and they all show that overall the situation

:46:29. > :46:34.is very grim, and the Prime Minister agrees with you, so my question is

:46:35. > :46:40.what are you going to do about it? Let's not talk about what happened

:46:41. > :46:45.in the past. It is fair to point out you cannot reverse such a long-term

:46:46. > :46:49.trend in social immobility overnight. I don't think it can be

:46:50. > :46:59.done in one Parliament. The evidence shows, and Alan Milburn who are

:47:00. > :47:09.appointed to deal with this because I am keen to get the right emphasis

:47:10. > :47:21.on this over several parliaments, he agreed that you have to start early.

:47:22. > :47:29.What about breaking down some of the barriers at university level in a

:47:30. > :47:33.judiciary, getting people from poorer backgrounds up the tree? The

:47:34. > :47:45.best thing we can do is to provide more support for two-year-olds from

:47:46. > :47:52.the most deprived incomes. Surestart, what about that? It has

:47:53. > :47:59.started to wind around the country. No, for the 20%, the lowest income

:48:00. > :48:10.families in this country, toddlers will get 15 hours of preschool

:48:11. > :48:17.support. The report you allude to shows the people premium, 2.5

:48:18. > :48:23.billion pounds of extra money to schools, it is making a difference

:48:24. > :48:32.and closing the gap. So there are no new proposals beyond what you have

:48:33. > :48:37.said? It is a journey and it is important we challenge all of the

:48:38. > :48:43.professions and politics and media and judiciary to open more doors. I

:48:44. > :48:46.would like to see a difference in the way internships are awarded

:48:47. > :49:01.because it should be about what you know, not who you know. We have seen

:49:02. > :49:08.an increase in people from disadvantaged backgrounds going to

:49:09. > :49:16.university. Subsequent governments must keep up the momentum. Let's

:49:17. > :49:19.move on to the Roma controversy on the streets of Sheffield. Clearly

:49:20. > :49:25.there are problems on the streets, shouldn't we be doing more to

:49:26. > :49:29.encourage Roma families when they come into this country to learn

:49:30. > :49:35.about how people live, putting out the dustbins, how they treat their

:49:36. > :49:42.children in the streets, basic stuff. Yes, but that is best done by

:49:43. > :49:45.the communities themselves with the assistance of local authorities and

:49:46. > :49:52.local politicians, but my simple view is that we cannot go back to

:49:53. > :49:56.the bad old days when one community or another is vilified across the

:49:57. > :50:02.country, but equally when communities live side-by-side as is

:50:03. > :50:11.the case in Sheffield, what might seem an -- ordinary behaviour to one

:50:12. > :50:17.community might be very unsettling to another. It is an old-fashioned

:50:18. > :50:25.idea of civility where people are sensitive to the effects of their

:50:26. > :50:31.actions. There was a huge migration wave about to happen at the end of

:50:32. > :50:34.this year, and there have been calls for special new emergency

:50:35. > :50:38.legislation in the House of Commons to stop it. The Labour MP Frank

:50:39. > :50:43.Field is said something needs to be done to stop this and there is

:50:44. > :50:55.something approaching hysteria in parts of the Conservative party -

:50:56. > :51:02.can't you do anything at all? We are lifting the barrier at the same time

:51:03. > :51:09.as many other countries in the EU, can I explain why that is important?

:51:10. > :51:13.Every time this comes up, politicians say, it's OK, not that

:51:14. > :51:20.many people will come, and every time they have been wrong. Last time

:51:21. > :51:27.the Labour Government lifted those restrictions in a way Jack Straw and

:51:28. > :51:41.others now say is a mistake, and the only other countries people could go

:51:42. > :51:47.to... It is different this time. Hundreds of thousands of British

:51:48. > :51:51.people benefit by working and living abroad, it is a two-way thing. We

:51:52. > :51:55.are not making wild predictions about what will happen but I want to

:51:56. > :52:00.point out it is different, the circumstances are different to last

:52:01. > :52:05.time. Do you approve of what the Prime Minister has done in the

:52:06. > :52:12.Grangemouth issue, setting up a new inquiry even though many see this as

:52:13. > :52:17.an anti trade union bashing move ahead of the election? This is an

:52:18. > :52:23.independent inquiry looking at their behaviour of trade unions and

:52:24. > :52:32.businesses. Many responsible trade unions have maintained industrial

:52:33. > :52:36.relations during recent years but there are some are responsible trade

:52:37. > :52:43.unions, and clearly something untoward happened in Grangemouth,

:52:44. > :52:49.and this inquiry, run independently, we'll look at it. Hopping from

:52:50. > :52:56.subject to subject, one last one, the age of consent moved to 15, or

:52:57. > :53:02.what is your reaction? I am not in favour of that. It has been as it is

:53:03. > :53:08.for generations in order to protect children. We do have far to high

:53:09. > :53:13.levels of teenage pregnancy. I am worried about the sexualisation of

:53:14. > :53:18.culture, which is why I do want to see action, for instance I am

:53:19. > :53:28.constantly urging Michael Gove to update and modernise sex education

:53:29. > :53:36.in schools which has not kept up with this. There is a debate but

:53:37. > :53:41.this is not the answer. What about putting certificates on a lot of the

:53:42. > :53:49.pop videos, like the Miley Cyrus stuff? It has become more like

:53:50. > :53:53.pornography and entertainment. The problem is that many videos are

:53:54. > :53:57.downloaded directly which is why we need to do more to make sure that in

:53:58. > :54:03.the classroom, young kids are equipped with the knowledge they

:54:04. > :54:06.need to deal with an Internet age that their parents and certainly

:54:07. > :54:11.their grandparents were not confronted with. Thank you, and now

:54:12. > :54:15.the news headlines. The deputy prime minister has said he wants to

:54:16. > :54:20.increase the amount people can earn before they start paying income

:54:21. > :54:28.tax. The threshold is due to go up to ?10,000 in April next year, and

:54:29. > :54:33.Nick Clegg said he wanted to put it up by a further ?500 but admitted

:54:34. > :54:58.the policy has not yet been agreed with his coalition partners.

:54:59. > :55:02.The next BBC News is at one o'clock but first here is a brief look at

:55:03. > :55:06.what is coming up after the programme. Simon Weston will be

:55:07. > :55:11.giving his verdict on the Marine found guilty of murder. Ann

:55:12. > :55:15.Widdecombe attacks the me generation, and Prince Charles

:55:16. > :55:19.suggests we are neglecting the countryside. Join me at ten o'clock.

:55:20. > :55:24.In a moment we will be hearing some music from the violinist Janine

:55:25. > :55:29.Jansen, but first we will mark the death last week of the much loved

:55:30. > :55:33.composer, Sir John Tavener. I spoke to him recently but I last

:55:34. > :55:38.interviewed him for this programme six years ago. We were broadcasting

:55:39. > :55:46.that morning from the Labour Party conference in Bournemouth, perhaps

:55:47. > :55:51.an unlikely setting for a conversation about music and

:55:52. > :55:55.spirituality. It is important for a composer that he communicates and

:55:56. > :56:01.the larger the audience the better, because people need something

:56:02. > :56:08.spiritual. Do you think we live in an ugly world? I don't think it is

:56:09. > :56:15.an ugly world but I think it appears as one because man is so obsessed

:56:16. > :56:21.with his existence but he doesn't think about other moments of being.

:56:22. > :56:27.You have written a song which is about the feminine principle. I

:56:28. > :56:35.think it is very important because it contains within it, passion,

:56:36. > :56:41.mercy, love, understanding beauty and truth which this world has

:56:42. > :56:47.forgotten. I don't know what we are doing at a party conference!

:56:48. > :56:52.Truth, beauty and the spirit. There is a bit more of that before we

:56:53. > :56:56.finish because the Dutch violinist Janine Jansen has built a following

:56:57. > :57:01.around the world with the sophistication and intelligence of

:57:02. > :57:09.her playing. She likes to perform in small ensembles and her latest album

:57:10. > :57:13.is of Bach sonatas and concertos. You are playing on an original

:57:14. > :57:21.Stradivarius but you have modernised it, have you? It is from 1727, but

:57:22. > :57:40.it is a modern setup. I am playing on a steel east E string. And you

:57:41. > :57:46.have a harpsichord as well. Thank you for joining us. That is all we

:57:47. > :57:50.have time for this morning. Lots more politics and culture lined up

:57:51. > :58:00.for next week, including the actor Martin Sheen. Join me if you can.

:58:01. > :58:06.But now we leave you with Bach's Badinerie and Janine Jansen.