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:00:34. > :00:38.job and everybody does their job. Good morning! Welcome to our final

:00:39. > :00:40.show of the year, complete with festive flavour. Yes, a special

:00:41. > :00:46.programme, politicos and peers, movie stars, music and Nigella's

:00:47. > :00:52.mince pies. Well, all right - no mince pies and sadly no Nigella. But

:00:53. > :00:57.as for the rest, three magi, three wise newspaper reviewers. Coalition

:00:58. > :01:00.Defence Minister Anna Soubrey, BBC Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen, and

:01:01. > :01:08.that great impressionist, Rory Bremner.

:01:09. > :01:15.But at the heart of this show we've always had politics and how it

:01:16. > :01:18.effects the rest of us. After a year of economic recovery but widespread

:01:19. > :01:23.hardship too, we're looking ahead at the future for spending, taxes, and

:01:24. > :01:29.jobs with a man who ought to know. Vince Cable, the Business Secretary.

:01:30. > :01:33.How does he feel about a country in which many are borrowing so much for

:01:34. > :01:36.a Christmas splurge but half a million people rely on food banks to

:01:37. > :01:39.feed their families? And what of the Labour vision? Will

:01:40. > :01:42.they enter the next election with the traditional trade union links?

:01:43. > :01:48.Peter Mandelson, one of the original creators of New Labour, is with us

:01:49. > :01:51.to talk Ed, Ed and the road ahead. Many of us have Nelson Mandela in

:01:52. > :01:54.our heads from watching news programmes, but as for the next

:01:55. > :02:01.generation, they'll get their ideas of him from the big screen. In

:02:02. > :02:08.particular, a new film. If needs be, it is an ideal for

:02:09. > :02:12.which I am prepared to die. Its star, Idris Elba, is a Londoner,

:02:13. > :02:19.better known to many of us from The Wire and Luther. I've been speaking

:02:20. > :02:30.to him. Did I say music? Oh, yes. One of the biggest musical hits in

:02:31. > :02:33.London's West End, The Commitments. The people's music. There you go,

:02:34. > :02:37.red hot blues, impeccably neutral as ever. All that and more in a little

:02:38. > :02:42.while. First, the news with Naga Munchetty.

:02:43. > :02:45.Andrew, thank you. Good morning. David Cameron has been warned that

:02:46. > :02:48.his plans to tighten the rules on immigration could isolate Britain

:02:49. > :02:50.and damage its reputation. The Bulgarian president, Rosen

:02:51. > :02:53.Plevneliev, says that Britain should stay true to its legacy as a great

:02:54. > :03:03.global power that pioneered integration and not play on people's

:03:04. > :03:07.fears. John Andrew has more. It is just ten days before

:03:08. > :03:11.Bulgarians and Romanians will have the right to come to the UK to live

:03:12. > :03:16.and work. No-one knows how many will come, but under political pressure,

:03:17. > :03:19.David Cameron brought in last-minute restrictions that. Newcomers

:03:20. > :03:27.claiming out of work benefits for three months. -- that will stop. Now

:03:28. > :03:31.the President of Bulgaria has waded into the debate. In an interview

:03:32. > :03:35.with the Observer he sells Bulgarians are now raising questions

:03:36. > :03:39.about how humane and tolerant Britain really is. He said he had

:03:40. > :03:44.concerns for the safety of Bulgarians already living in the UK.

:03:45. > :03:49.Downing Street said that while free movement was a central principle of

:03:50. > :03:54.the EU it could not be a completely unqualified one.

:03:55. > :03:58.The body of a British surgeon who was found dead in a prison cell in

:03:59. > :04:00.Syria is being flown home today. Abbas Khan, a 32-year-old

:04:01. > :04:04.orthopaedic surgeon from South London, died just days before the

:04:05. > :04:07.Syrian government had said he would be freed. Mr Khan's family believes

:04:08. > :04:10.that he was murdered. The Syrian authorities claim he took his own

:04:11. > :04:13.life. More than a million elderly people

:04:14. > :04:18.in the UK are malnourished, according to Age UK. The charity is

:04:19. > :04:22.piloting a project which aims to identify those most at risk. The

:04:23. > :04:25.project is backed by the Government as part of its response to the

:04:26. > :04:28.Francis Report into the failures at Mid Staffordshire Hospital, which

:04:29. > :04:34.revealed that patients had not been helped to eat or drink properly.

:04:35. > :04:42.The 11th series of Strictly Come Dancing has been won by the model

:04:43. > :04:45.Abbey Clancy. Abbey, who is married to the Stoke City footballer Peter

:04:46. > :04:50.Crouch, lifted the BBC show's glitterball trophy. More than six

:04:51. > :04:53.million votes were cast in the all-female final. She beat soap

:04:54. > :04:59.actress Natalie Gumede and, of course, the bookies' favourite,

:05:00. > :05:03.Breakfast's Susanna Reid. That is all from a for now, I will

:05:04. > :05:07.be back with the headlines just before ten o'clock. Now let's get

:05:08. > :05:14.back to Andrew. Many thanks, in the papers it is

:05:15. > :05:19.Nigella Wars, in the sun on Sunday, Nigella was a spaced out zombie. On

:05:20. > :05:24.the other hand, the Mail on Sunday, the defiant goddess, I have

:05:25. > :05:29.toughened up. The story very much in her interests there. Plenty of other

:05:30. > :05:34.stories, too, I am blessed as a! Lee Rigby in the Sunday Mirror, a

:05:35. > :05:39.terrible story about his killer, the Sunday express, bunking up in

:05:40. > :05:43.Sandringham. The Lockerbie bombing 25th anniversary is coming up soon,

:05:44. > :05:52.and the Independent on Sunday has gone without story, and the Sunday

:05:53. > :05:55.Times as Nick Clegg blocking anymore curbs on migrants taking on the

:05:56. > :05:59.Prime Minister, we will be talking to Vince Cable about that. And the

:06:00. > :06:03.wonderful Susanna Reid, who did not make it to the final of Strictly, I

:06:04. > :06:08.think that picture earlier in the evening. A bit more of the Nigella

:06:09. > :06:12.Wars there. The observer taking a different line on Europe, Bulgaria

:06:13. > :06:18.issues beers rebuke to Cameron on migrants, we heard about that in the

:06:19. > :06:23.news. As promised, a brilliant set of paper reviews, Anna Soubry, you

:06:24. > :06:28.have picked the Nigella story, which is absolutely everywhere, almost too

:06:29. > :06:34.much Nigella! I think the whole thing is disgraceful. I think we are

:06:35. > :06:39.beginning to lose the plot. Pas is disgraceful. This started with an

:06:40. > :06:43.unfortunate divorce, and it started with a photograph of her being

:06:44. > :06:47.assaulted by her husband, and so out in public was played what should

:06:48. > :06:51.have been a very private and distressing moment. As a result of

:06:52. > :06:54.that, they were divorced. These criminal proceedings have already

:06:55. > :07:00.begun back in 2012, and now we have had this playing out of this court

:07:01. > :07:04.case where Nigella Lawson, quite properly, complains she was on

:07:05. > :07:09.trial. I thought Rachel Johnson's bees made that very clear in the

:07:10. > :07:12.Mail on Sunday, and I thought that it may be hereditary, but she spoke

:07:13. > :07:18.great sense about it. She is Boris's sister! Talking sense?

:07:19. > :07:25.Seriously, this is appalling, and this woman, it is almost like the

:07:26. > :07:32.tradition of a feeding frenzy. I just find it utterly appalling. They

:07:33. > :07:36.should shut up. Many of us agree with you, but there is an issue

:07:37. > :07:40.about middle-class drug taking, is it acceptable to take cocaine if you

:07:41. > :07:46.are rich enough? I am quite relieved that she said the cocaine use was

:07:47. > :07:51.occasional, otherwise Waitrose might have been expecting a Christmas

:07:52. > :07:55.rush! In the Observer they were talking about the old days of the

:07:56. > :07:59.News of the World, a circulation of 8 million from courtroom sensation,

:08:00. > :08:03.reporting the lurid details. I think Rachel has made the point that they

:08:04. > :08:07.started the case before they were divorced, so the question is, why

:08:08. > :08:14.did they put themselves through all of this? The answer was, the judge,

:08:15. > :08:17.when this e-mail came out from Charles Saatchi about Higella, the

:08:18. > :08:21.judge ruled their domestic life became at missable. They should have

:08:22. > :08:28.pulled the plug and said, we are not going to court. I think she said she

:08:29. > :08:32.did not want to be there, but she was a prosecution witness. I think

:08:33. > :08:37.we would agree that there is something very disturbing about the

:08:38. > :08:41.fact that Charles Saatchi has used a PR man who apparently has been used

:08:42. > :08:47.by the two accused, sorry, acquitted, the two sisters, who has

:08:48. > :08:54.put on his blog a copy of statements from them. This troubles me hugely.

:08:55. > :08:59.What is going on? Something I almost never say, that is enough Nigella! A

:09:00. > :09:07.very serious story that you have been carving, Jeremy, Syria. Yeah,

:09:08. > :09:10.and in the Sunday Times, the latest from the poor refugees in the

:09:11. > :09:17.camps, there is a picture of a charred in a camp in Lebanon, and an

:09:18. > :09:21.appeal for money. -- a child. Put your hands in your pockets, because

:09:22. > :09:25.while a lot of money has gone there, there is never enough, because the

:09:26. > :09:29.problem keeps getting worse. I think there are now 2 million Syrians who

:09:30. > :09:34.have fled as refugees, and within the country there are six, seven, 8

:09:35. > :09:39.million displaced from their homes, often more than once, often more

:09:40. > :09:43.than three times. This is in a country of 23 million. And that

:09:44. > :09:46.includes a lot of Christians. In the Sunday Telegraph, Douglas

:09:47. > :09:51.Alexander, the Labour frontbencher, have said that they should make more

:09:52. > :09:56.of the plight of Christians in Syria and in the Middle East generally. In

:09:57. > :10:00.the Syrian war, Christians tend to support Assad, because they see him

:10:01. > :10:04.as the protector of minorities, and they are worried about the jihadist

:10:05. > :10:08.groups taking over the opposition fight there, the armed opposition.

:10:09. > :10:16.But we have covered the Christian story, and I was in a Christian town

:10:17. > :10:20.where they still speak Aramaic, the language that apparently Jesus

:10:21. > :10:26.spoke, and that was under attack by Al-Qaeda type forces. And one of the

:10:27. > :10:33.very angry Christians there, very displeased by day feel the way the

:10:34. > :10:36.West has dumped them, 2000 years ago we sent to Saint ball to take you

:10:37. > :10:44.out of the darkness, and what do you send us? Al-Qaeda! -- Saint Paul.

:10:45. > :10:49.That is a rebuke you cannot answer. Programme and it is not just about

:10:50. > :10:53.Christians. They have traditionally had a very important place in Middle

:10:54. > :10:57.Eastern countries, and it is not just Syria. The Christian

:10:58. > :11:01.communities in Iraq have been very badly damaged, and also in Jerusalem

:11:02. > :11:08.itself. Christians in Jerusalem are, in the main, Palestinians, and they

:11:09. > :11:13.feel pushed out, too. 25 years since Lockerbie, and you have chosen a

:11:14. > :11:18.story from the Independent on Sunday. I am surprised there has not

:11:19. > :11:22.been more coverage of the Lockerbie disaster, tragedy, terrible act of

:11:23. > :11:26.terrorism, the worst, I believe, we have experienced in the United

:11:27. > :11:30.Kingdom, and it is on the front page of the Independent, and there is

:11:31. > :11:35.this piece by Jim Swire, who many of us remember as the father of one of

:11:36. > :11:43.the victims. A tireless campaigner. He makes the point... He says there

:11:44. > :11:47.is a cover-up. And he will continue to campaign, but it is right and

:11:48. > :11:52.proper we should remember that bombing 25 years ago. I was in

:11:53. > :11:56.Lockerbie that day, 25 years ago this morning, I was in Lockerbie,

:11:57. > :12:00.and apart from the place where the wing had hits and this massive

:12:01. > :12:04.explosion, the town was just covered in bits of aeroplane, there were

:12:05. > :12:11.seats with body still in them in groups, horrendous. Your sister was

:12:12. > :12:16.the GP there. I remember very well. I was in Glasgow, a couple of weeks

:12:17. > :12:19.ago, when the people responded wonderfully, and there was a simple

:12:20. > :12:25.act of kindness when they took the clothes of the victims and they

:12:26. > :12:31.washed and ironed them and sent them back to America. Just a simple

:12:32. > :12:37.human, just extraordinary. It still is a very fine town. Rory, moving

:12:38. > :12:44.on. A lot of tributes to David Coleman, who died yesterday, a very

:12:45. > :12:47.good one in the Daily Telegraph, by their sports correspondent, making

:12:48. > :12:51.the point that he thought of himself above all as a journalist, and his

:12:52. > :12:54.finest hour was 30 hours of coverage at the Munich Olympics where his

:12:55. > :13:00.journalistic background to go over. But we've a member him from Spitting

:13:01. > :13:05.Image, Colemanballs, and there are a lot in this year, you cannot believe

:13:06. > :13:11.what is not happening! This is Brendan Foster by himself, with

:13:12. > :13:17.20,000 people. There are so many! But also Spitting Image, Chris

:13:18. > :13:20.Barrie immortalised him on that, he always did him. Funnily enough, they

:13:21. > :13:25.did a sketch once were his puppet was going to explode, and the real

:13:26. > :13:29.David Coleman would walk on and at his catchphrase, quite remarkable!

:13:30. > :13:32.And he did it three times, and the producer said, sorry, that doesn't

:13:33. > :13:37.sound anything like you! The impression had overcome the

:13:38. > :13:40.reality, a commentator turned national treasure. In a lot of

:13:41. > :13:44.newspapers, the Daily Telegraph are very good on it. Back to the tough

:13:45. > :13:49.stuff of the wider world, Jeremy, that is your role in all of this,

:13:50. > :13:55.South Sudan, from the Independent on Sunday. Yes, campaigners warning

:13:56. > :13:58.about the fact that South Sudan is very rich. The thing about South

:13:59. > :14:03.Sudan is that it is the newest independent country in the world,

:14:04. > :14:07.and its independence seems to be ending, or people hoped it would end

:14:08. > :14:10.a civil war that had gone on for a generation. It is looking very much

:14:11. > :14:17.as if war is returning to South Sudan, which is the most, you know,

:14:18. > :14:26.awfully deep right place. There is cheery stuff I would like to talk

:14:27. > :14:30.about! Strictly, for heaven's sake! I don't particularly... I would have

:14:31. > :14:35.put a lot of money on Susanna Reid to win. She came third. The

:14:36. > :14:42.fascinating thing about all of this, I know Rory has done it, I certainly

:14:43. > :14:48.have no intention of doing it... Go on! Vince has done it! Peter

:14:49. > :14:54.Mandelson would love to do it! He loves the sequins and stuff, he is

:14:55. > :14:58.properly wearing them today. It is proper light entertainment, family

:14:59. > :15:03.programme being enjoyed across the nation, and I actually stayed in and

:15:04. > :15:10.watched the final. And why not? The quality... They danced brilliantly.

:15:11. > :15:18.Think of that band, week after week, it is brilliant. Full credit

:15:19. > :15:34.to the BBC, great show. Another kind of family entertainment, cricket.

:15:35. > :15:41.You all very exercised! Graeme Swann, with two Ashes tests to go,

:15:42. > :15:45.has called defeat. I think that maybe he has been told he will be

:15:46. > :15:50.dropped anyway but the point is that he should sign off at the end of the

:15:51. > :16:02.series, but not now. If you have paid a lot of money to fly out to

:16:03. > :16:12.watch him bowling... You would be extremely annoyed. And a story about

:16:13. > :16:17.Peter O'Toole. Yes, there are pieces all over the paper, a quote saying

:16:18. > :16:29.the only exercise he took was walking up to the coffins of friends

:16:30. > :16:42.who took exercise. There is a great story in the Sunday Times from

:16:43. > :16:49.Sarah, who said in the hospital nurses came in to catch a glimpse of

:16:50. > :16:58.him and advised him to put out his cigarette, he said they should open

:16:59. > :17:06.the window. And a lovely Nelson Mandela story. You remember Frank

:17:07. > :17:11.Dobson, the old Health Secretary, there was a time when Nelson Mandela

:17:12. > :17:18.came up to Frank and said, hello, good to see you again, then there

:17:19. > :17:34.was an awkward silence, and Nelson said to him, you do remember me,

:17:35. > :17:38.don't you? Now the weather forecast. So far winter has proved to be mild

:17:39. > :17:41.with temperatures in double figures across part of the country. With

:17:42. > :17:44.just three days to go to Christmas, any chance of a white one? Over to

:17:45. > :17:46.just three days to go to Christmas, any chance of a white one? white

:17:47. > :17:50.Christmas, and our attention is going to be drawn to some stormy

:17:51. > :17:53.weather before Christmas which could cause disruption if you are planning

:17:54. > :18:03.to visit relatives over the next few days. There are plenty of showers

:18:04. > :18:06.nationwide, and your attention perhaps drawn to the mountains of

:18:07. > :18:13.Scotland where we have significant snowfall.

:18:14. > :18:21.Over the next 24 hours, we could pick up 20 centimetres of snow over

:18:22. > :18:26.the high ground of Scotland. There is a risk of icy patches developing

:18:27. > :18:33.on untreated surfaces, and the first signs of an area of exceptionally

:18:34. > :18:38.deep low-pressure bringing rain into England and Wales overnight. This

:18:39. > :18:45.rain could cause localised flooding problems, it will be very windy

:18:46. > :18:51.everywhere, and by the time we get to Christmas Eve the depth of the

:18:52. > :19:01.low-pressure will have got down to 930 millibars. The wind could

:19:02. > :19:04.potentially reach up to 90 mph in the west of Scotland. You will be

:19:05. > :19:06.pleased to hear that on Christmas Day the weather will be a good deal

:19:07. > :19:23.quieter. But no snow, you notice. The former

:19:24. > :19:26.communications director and Cabinet Minister Lord Mandelson has

:19:27. > :19:29.experienced the highs and lows of Labour fortunes over the years - so

:19:30. > :19:32.what does he make of its current situation? He joins me now. The

:19:33. > :19:35.polls are quite favourable for the Labour Party at the moment but do

:19:36. > :19:39.you think they have done enough to win the next election or not? Given

:19:40. > :19:46.the continuing economic problems of the country, I think the next

:19:47. > :19:50.election is for Labour to lose. I think they are in a good position

:19:51. > :19:57.but to consolidate their lead they have some things to do in 2014.

:19:58. > :20:01.Firstly they have got to convert their very effective tactic some

:20:02. > :20:06.cost of living into a strategy which is rooted in policies for economic

:20:07. > :20:13.growth and rising prosperity for the country as a whole. The economic

:20:14. > :20:17.picture has got to be painted in. Secondly, Ed Miliband faces a big

:20:18. > :20:22.test of his leadership in relation to the trade unions. He has

:20:23. > :20:26.effectively got to win the fight that he started quite radically to

:20:27. > :20:33.reform the relationship between the trade unions and Labour. Thirdly, he

:20:34. > :20:40.has to navigate his way through what could be a very difficult minefield

:20:41. > :20:47.and that is the Chilcott inquiry into the Iraq war which remains very

:20:48. > :20:54.sensitive issue. Do we know when that is coming? We are expecting

:20:55. > :20:58.on-time midyear. Let me ask you about the trade unions because there

:20:59. > :21:02.will be a special conference in the spring, but I think it will now be

:21:03. > :21:07.bolted onto another conference, and it seems it has gone very quiet in

:21:08. > :21:13.this. We are expecting clearer information about what the new union

:21:14. > :21:20.links with Labour will look like. There is talk about it only applying

:21:21. > :21:26.to new union members. No, what Ed has got to do is follow the logic of

:21:27. > :21:30.his own analysis. He said, and I agree with him, that the

:21:31. > :21:34.relationship needs to be between Labour and the individual Labour

:21:35. > :21:40.supporting members of trade unions rather than with the general

:21:41. > :21:57.secretaries and their block votes. Nomar block votes on policy? It

:21:58. > :22:03.means lifting the unions' grip in electing the leader of the Labour

:22:04. > :22:06.Party. All of this has to be rebalanced. I don't want to see the

:22:07. > :22:11.relationship with the trade unions ended but I do want to see it

:22:12. > :22:17.radically mended. I think this is a source of great anxiety for the

:22:18. > :22:21.public and they want to see change, especially as Ed Miliband himself

:22:22. > :22:26.has opened the door. Are you concerned that we will not see from

:22:27. > :22:32.him the full range of reforms it looks like we would see? I don't

:22:33. > :22:38.think we have an option. One outcome must be avoided is that as the

:22:39. > :22:45.affiliation between the Labour Party, the payments based on the

:22:46. > :22:50.affiliation are juiced, we don't want to see them give an even

:22:51. > :23:02.greater control over the Labour Party's policy. Does Ed Miliband's

:23:03. > :23:12.leadership depend on this? His leadership was won mainly by his

:23:13. > :23:20.affiliation with the general secretaries. He has got to move away

:23:21. > :23:26.from that but I think he can do. What about the big picture on the

:23:27. > :23:30.economy? There is no money left, we are still heavily overborrowed as a

:23:31. > :23:34.country, what is the future for centre-left politics in that

:23:35. > :23:41.situation? I don't think the state of the economy is as glittering as

:23:42. > :23:46.the Coalition maintained, nor quite as gloomy as the Labour Party

:23:47. > :23:52.sometimes claims, but we do have a mountain to climb in this country.

:23:53. > :23:55.We have got to invest heavily in private and public sectors to close

:23:56. > :24:06.the productivity gap with our competitors. We have got to see

:24:07. > :24:10.people earning more and their personal indebtedness reduced, that

:24:11. > :24:15.is very important indeed, and we have got to rebalance the economy

:24:16. > :24:20.both between the manufacturing and non-manufacturing sectors of the

:24:21. > :24:24.economy and between the different regions of the country. Labour has

:24:25. > :24:31.got to show it has policies that will, on a sustainable basis,

:24:32. > :24:36.achieve those things. Are you calling for a new industrial

:24:37. > :24:41.strategy and a new banking strategy? On the banks, the weaknesses of the

:24:42. > :24:47.banking system have broadly speaking been repaired, we now need a period

:24:48. > :24:52.of stability for the banks to adjust to the new regulatory regime. Banks

:24:53. > :24:59.have got to start doing their job, which is lending money chiefly to

:25:00. > :25:05.the corporate sector. But I would like to see the work that I started

:25:06. > :25:10.in my industrial activism when I was Business Secretary, which has been

:25:11. > :25:15.continued by Vince Cable. We have to build on that and I think Ed Balls

:25:16. > :25:22.and the shadow business secretary are doing that. Ed Balls has had a

:25:23. > :25:28.torrid time, how do you think he is doing? I think Ed balls has a wealth

:25:29. > :25:32.of knowledge and experience of international finance and markets,

:25:33. > :25:37.huge expertise which the country will benefit from. I sometimes think

:25:38. > :25:42.he is better in Government than in opposition but that is not a bad

:25:43. > :25:47.thing. I would rather have a shadow chancellor who is better in

:25:48. > :25:59.Government. If he gets there. For now, thank you.

:26:00. > :26:03.On the very day that Nelson Mandela died, the premiere of a new film

:26:04. > :26:10.about his life opened in London. An amazing coincidence. Playing the

:26:11. > :26:14.lead in Long Walk To Freedom is one of our biggest stars, Idris Elba.

:26:15. > :26:17.From East London, he made his name in America, as hoodlum Stringer Bell

:26:18. > :26:21.in that cult series, The Wire. Back here for the BBC, he's been a moody

:26:22. > :26:25.and complex copper in Luther. When I met Idris Elba, he told me how his

:26:26. > :26:28.own father, who also died recently, informed his portrayal and his

:26:29. > :26:31.knowledge of Nelson Mandela. I was certainly aware because of my dad,

:26:32. > :26:41.who was very political, the trade unionists, he was always championing

:26:42. > :26:48.Mandela. So he was in your mind when you are playing Mandela? Yes, that

:26:49. > :26:54.was how I started to build him. I could so relate with his energy. I

:26:55. > :26:58.have challenged the idea of a free society.

:26:59. > :27:04.It is an idea for which I am prepared to die. The sentence will

:27:05. > :27:12.be life in prison. What about the voice? Your family are from West

:27:13. > :27:16.Africa, not South Africa. Africans tend to colour their English in a

:27:17. > :27:22.very interesting way. Almost everything they say sounds noble so

:27:23. > :27:33.I took that as a frame base. My dad speaks much like that, so I used

:27:34. > :27:39.that and then I studied Xhosa. You pull it down a little bit rather

:27:40. > :27:43.than pulling it up. The audience are asked to take a big leap of faith by

:27:44. > :27:48.looking at an actor that looks nothing like the well-known man so I

:27:49. > :27:53.wanted a voice that brought them closer to the character. And

:27:54. > :28:01.incredibly difficult job because the millions of people this will be how

:28:02. > :28:08.they know the man, as it were. Yes, I am very proud that this film holds

:28:09. > :28:13.the ultimate story of Mandela, I am proud of that. A lot of his film is

:28:14. > :28:19.about his relationship with Winnie, and it portrays her as a badly

:28:20. > :28:25.wounded character. She has seen this film, and I think the portrayal of

:28:26. > :28:28.her is closer to the truth than any other film that has been done of her

:28:29. > :28:34.life because it shows the journey she went on from her journey from a

:28:35. > :28:42.sweet 22-year-old woman to a hardened revolutionary. Did Nelson

:28:43. > :28:48.Mandela himself ever see the film? I know he saw parts of it. When Nelson

:28:49. > :28:55.Mandela viewed Idris Elba, do you know anything of his reaction to it?

:28:56. > :28:59.There is one scene at the end of the film where I am walking up the Vale

:29:00. > :29:06.where he came from and he thought that was him. He asked me how we did

:29:07. > :29:17.that, he said, I don't remember walking up there. People love to

:29:18. > :29:26.hate. They can be taught to love, formal comes more naturally --

:29:27. > :29:32.because love comes more naturally to the human heart. There are very grim

:29:33. > :29:40.periods in that, people look a life and think you have been showered

:29:41. > :29:48.with good fortune. Has your life been that easy? No, I am a career

:29:49. > :29:53.actor, I started at 16, I got my first professional job at 19. I have

:29:54. > :29:57.been worked and I have been very fortunate but there have been

:29:58. > :30:01.moments when it has been very hard. You had to leave Britain at one

:30:02. > :30:08.point because you felt there were not the parts for a black actor in

:30:09. > :30:15.British television? No, I just wanted to get into a bigger pond.

:30:16. > :30:25.What day is it today? Friday? What happened on Friday. Payday. Not this

:30:26. > :30:34.Friday. You are going to call him like you will pay him...

:30:35. > :30:38.I think David Simon saw the chemistry between the different

:30:39. > :30:46.characters. Almost like a father figure. How much did that role

:30:47. > :30:55.affect Luther? A very rich role, hugely successful. Yeah, I would not

:30:56. > :30:59.have got to lose if I had not done Stringer Bell, because they wanted

:31:00. > :31:00.an actor to play a complex detective.

:31:01. > :31:21.Have you chosen? Say her name. After Luther, no-one can Saighdiur

:31:22. > :31:27.is poor writing in British television, it is sensational. It is

:31:28. > :31:31.not just about writing for black or white characters but writing good

:31:32. > :31:36.stories that fit into our culture, and that is what good writing has

:31:37. > :31:43.always done for the BBC, television in this country. You are incredibly

:31:44. > :31:49.driven, was there a moment when you said, I am going to show them what I

:31:50. > :31:53.can do? Since playing Mandela, I figured there is a lot I can do, I

:31:54. > :32:01.had this beacon is it doing on my head, and there is a way to point it

:32:02. > :32:05.towards change and what I can do, I am using that analogy, but some

:32:06. > :32:10.people are a little bit lost and do not know what to do, and I think

:32:11. > :32:15.following, not my example, but the idea you can come from wherever you

:32:16. > :32:19.want in the world, you can go wherever you want. So do you see

:32:20. > :32:23.some sort of men touring role coming out of the Mandela experience?

:32:24. > :32:30.Talking to people in east London? That is something I have done with

:32:31. > :32:35.the Prince's Trust, they gave me a check! I would definitely like to do

:32:36. > :32:40.more of that, as they say, give back.

:32:41. > :32:44.Idris Elba there. Vince Cable is sometimes cast as the Eeyore of the

:32:45. > :32:49.coalition, and there was good news on unemployment this week, but is

:32:50. > :32:54.this the result of a borrowing boom, or is it more solidly based? Good

:32:55. > :33:00.morning, can I put something to you? Looking at the numbers, if you are

:33:01. > :33:03.going to avoid really serious, deep welfare cuts and spending cuts in

:33:04. > :33:09.the next parliament, you will have to raise taxes and not simply

:33:10. > :33:12.mention taxes but income tax. Well, there is a continuing problem of the

:33:13. > :33:16.deficit, the structural deficit which arose from the financial

:33:17. > :33:19.crisis. Any government is going to have to deal with that. I think the

:33:20. > :33:25.crucial thing is that it has to be dealt with fairly. We have got to

:33:26. > :33:27.have a sensible balance between pressure on public spending, which

:33:28. > :34:09.is getting very severe, We are getting manufacturers coming

:34:10. > :34:12.back to the UK now, but that has got to be put on a sustainable basis,

:34:13. > :34:17.and we have to make sure the recovery is fair and that we have

:34:18. > :34:21.got to keep helping people at the bottom end of the scale, we have

:34:22. > :34:26.been pushing to get people out of tax, support the minimum wage, deal

:34:27. > :34:33.with contract abuses and things of that kind. We are still very over

:34:34. > :34:37.indebted, both personally and nationally. We are quite close now,

:34:38. > :34:40.with unemployment coming down to the level at which the Bank of England

:34:41. > :34:49.will look at interest rates, , what would be the effect of those rates

:34:50. > :34:53.going up a point or two? This partly reflects the imbalance in the

:34:54. > :34:57.economy. There is a housing boom in London and the south-east, not in

:34:58. > :35:00.other parts of the country. The danger of raising interest rates is

:35:01. > :35:04.that you hit those parts of the country which are not yet fully

:35:05. > :35:08.recovered and push up the exchange rate, hitting manufacturing. On the

:35:09. > :35:12.other hand, if you don't increase interest rates, if that is the way

:35:13. > :35:17.the Government and the Bank of England go, then this boom in

:35:18. > :35:20.housing prices get out of control and the only people who can live in

:35:21. > :35:26.parts of London are foreigners and bankers. We don't want either. You

:35:27. > :35:30.could stop fuelling that by looking at the Help To Buy scheme, for

:35:31. > :35:34.instance. Indeed, we certainly need to look at that again. It was

:35:35. > :35:38.conceived in very different circumstances. I noticed that the

:35:39. > :35:42.rating agency standard and work, which gives us a AAA rating, is

:35:43. > :35:49.expressing worries on that. -- Standard Poor's. Nick Clegg has

:35:50. > :35:54.said Lib Dems will stop any further moves, including the ?75,000 per

:35:55. > :36:02.year cap on the EU migrants coming into this country. Do you take the

:36:03. > :36:06.same view? -- 75,000. It is illegal and impossible to implement in any

:36:07. > :36:10.event. I think what is happening here, the Conservatives are in a bit

:36:11. > :36:14.of a panic because of UKIP, reacting in the way they are. It is not going

:36:15. > :36:18.to help them politically, but it is doing a great deal of damage. The

:36:19. > :36:22.responsibility of politicians is to look at the facts, and the simple

:36:23. > :36:25.point is that there is very little evidence of benefit tourism, people

:36:26. > :36:29.coming from Eastern Europe, all the evidence suggests they put more into

:36:30. > :36:33.the economy in terms of tax than they take out in benefits. It was

:36:34. > :36:39.right to stop abuse of the benefits system, absolutely right to do that,

:36:40. > :36:43.but freedom of movement, albeit constrained, is a basic principle,

:36:44. > :36:48.and a lot of British people take advantage of it. The Prime Minister

:36:49. > :36:52.seized on this as one of the big things that he is fighting, he is

:36:53. > :36:56.personally behind this, going in to an argument with the Europeans and

:36:57. > :37:01.the Bulgarian President, I think. Can you stop this happening, the

:37:02. > :37:04.cap? It is not going to happen. Nick Clegg will not allow it still

:37:05. > :37:08.happen. But there is a bigger picture here, we periodically get

:37:09. > :37:13.immigration panics in the UK. Going back to Enoch Powell and rivers of

:37:14. > :37:16.blood and all that, last century there was panics of Jewish

:37:17. > :37:20.immigrants coming from Eastern Europe. The responsibility of

:37:21. > :37:23.politicians in this situation, when people are getting anxious, is to

:37:24. > :37:28.try to reassure them and give them facts and not panic and resort to

:37:29. > :37:32.populist measures. This sounds like a bit of a crisis in the coalition

:37:33. > :37:36.at the moment. Well, there is quite a lot of tension around this issue,

:37:37. > :37:40.I do not pretend otherwise. We have a job to do to sort out the economy,

:37:41. > :37:44.we are businesslike, and people would not forgive us if we walked

:37:45. > :37:48.away from our responsibilities, but there are big differences over

:37:49. > :37:53.fairness, tax and immigration, and we will argue our corner. When it

:37:54. > :37:57.comes to be so-called red lines, I know you do not like the phrase, but

:37:58. > :38:00.Mansion tax, probably higher taxes in other areas, those red lines for

:38:01. > :38:07.you when it comes to the next election? Absolutely, and as a party

:38:08. > :38:10.we have a lot to be proud of as part of this government, particularly

:38:11. > :38:14.lifting large numbers of low earners out of tax altogether. But we will

:38:15. > :38:19.argue for Berwick taxes, the Conservatives want to go in the

:38:20. > :38:24.other direction. -- fairer taxes. Is its time to perhaps look again at

:38:25. > :38:28.the top rate of income tax for people who can afford it, the

:38:29. > :38:34.so-called rich? I do not see any reason for that. The previous cut

:38:35. > :38:40.was not a great political success, and I think we need to be... Should

:38:41. > :38:44.be reversed? We are not arguing for a reversal, but I think if the top

:38:45. > :38:51.rate of income tax comes down you have to have higher rates of tax on

:38:52. > :38:55.assets, high levels of wealth, the Mansion tax, extreme property

:38:56. > :38:59.inflation would make that appropriate. Thank you very much

:39:00. > :39:02.indeed. More from Vince Cable and Peter Mandelson in a moment, but

:39:03. > :39:07.first the headlines from Naga Munchetty.

:39:08. > :39:10.The president of Bulgaria has issued a warning to David Cameron about his

:39:11. > :39:17.plans to toughen the rules on immigration. He told the Observer

:39:18. > :39:21.newspaper that Britain's image as a global power that pioneered

:39:22. > :39:25.integration would be harmed if Mr Cameron moves towards what he calls

:39:26. > :39:29.isolation and national is. From next month, Bulgarians and Romanians will

:39:30. > :39:34.be granted full access to the British labour market. On this

:39:35. > :39:39.programme, unstable said that the Conservatives work in a panic about

:39:40. > :39:41.immigration. -- Vince Cable. He warned against resorting to populist

:39:42. > :39:45.measures. The former Labour Cabinet minister

:39:46. > :39:47.Peter Mandelson has called on Ed Miliband to press ahead with

:39:48. > :39:59.manacled reforms to the relationship with the trade unions and the party.

:40:00. > :40:04.He said the reforms should be put to members at a special conference in

:40:05. > :40:08.the spring. I think what many in the public remember is that the

:40:09. > :40:13.leadership was won by Ed on the basis of the trade union vote,

:40:14. > :40:18.notably the support of the trade union general secretaries. He has

:40:19. > :40:22.got to distance itself from that and show real change.

:40:23. > :40:27.That is all from me for now, the next news on BBC One is at one

:40:28. > :40:30.o'clock. Time to get back to Andrew.

:40:31. > :40:34.Vince Cable is here, and we are joined still by Anna Soubry and

:40:35. > :40:37.Peter Mandelson. You heard what Vince Cable said about the

:40:38. > :40:42.impracticality of the 75,000 cap, despite what the Prime Minister has

:40:43. > :40:46.said, is that your view as well? I think it is not just illegal, but I

:40:47. > :40:50.do not see how you would implement a cap on immigration when we want

:40:51. > :40:54.investment and skills coming to this country. We have benefited this for

:40:55. > :40:59.centuries. What on earth would be the point of cutting our noses off

:41:00. > :41:03.to spite our face is now? Also, an awful lot of British people benefit

:41:04. > :41:07.from the right to circulate freely within the single market. I think

:41:08. > :41:10.there are many people going from this country to other European

:41:11. > :41:16.countries, more than the other way around. Anna Soubry, you were

:41:17. > :41:19.nodding. Forgive me, but on Question Time about one month ago, I said

:41:20. > :41:23.pretty much what Vince said, which is that the overwhelming majority of

:41:24. > :41:26.people who come to this country come here to work. There are some who

:41:27. > :41:31.clearly don't, they are a small number, and they are quite rightly

:41:32. > :41:34.going to be discouraged from coming here, but the majority work and

:41:35. > :41:40.contribute to the economy, and in certain parts of the country they do

:41:41. > :41:43.the jobs which, unfortunately, others are not doing. That is why

:41:44. > :41:47.getting people back into work is one of the things that has brought us

:41:48. > :41:52.together in government. And yet the Prime Minister wants to change this.

:41:53. > :41:55.What we want to change is this place being seen as a country which you

:41:56. > :41:59.can come to do take advantage of things you have not contributed to.

:42:00. > :42:03.If you come here because you want to claim benefits or take advantage of

:42:04. > :42:09.the NHS, in my view you are not welcome. The Prime Minister wants

:42:10. > :42:15.to... I am so sorry, he also wants to change the deal on free movement,

:42:16. > :42:19.he has made that clear. Absolutely, but when you speak to other

:42:20. > :42:23.countries, when you speak to Germany, for example, a very good

:42:24. > :42:26.example, and other country which is also deeply concerned about what

:42:27. > :42:31.happens when other people come into the EU, not on the same financial

:42:32. > :42:34.footing, and they are concerned about an imbalance. That is

:42:35. > :42:43.perfectly right and proper. I think there is more agreement in the

:42:44. > :42:46.European Union than people might imagine about this very difficult

:42:47. > :42:48.and tricky issue. Going back to Peter Mandelson's point, many

:42:49. > :42:52.British people go to Europe, as many as come here. I had a debate

:42:53. > :42:55.recently were some body said they were absolutely fed up with all of

:42:56. > :42:59.these immigrants coming into Britain, they are going to go and

:43:00. > :43:03.live in Spain. There was a lot of schizophrenia about it. What we have

:43:04. > :43:07.got to stop is damaging policies that actually do harm, and frankly,

:43:08. > :43:11.in terms of the controls from outside the European Union, my

:43:12. > :43:13.department deals with some of the negative effects of discouraging

:43:14. > :43:17.overseas students, these restrictions which have become so

:43:18. > :43:22.ridiculously tight that we cannot get people coming in from China and

:43:23. > :43:27.India to do business. We need a responsible debate, and that is what

:43:28. > :43:30.has been lacking, and I read the headlines in the newspapers, and

:43:31. > :43:33.frankly it makes my stomach churn. This is one of the reasons why

:43:34. > :43:38.people have a fear of immigration, because they are not getting all the

:43:39. > :43:42.facts. I think Vince's point, in the circumstances, times are tough,

:43:43. > :43:45.there is a danger of blaming the stranger, and history tells us that

:43:46. > :43:50.is a very dangerous course to go down, which is where we agree. What

:43:51. > :43:55.we need is an irresponsible debate, that is what I am waiting for from

:43:56. > :43:59.politicians! The point you make is very strong, and that is that

:44:00. > :44:06.putting a confident Britain at the heart of a reforming Europe will

:44:07. > :44:10.find changes in European policies which are not just Britain is

:44:11. > :44:14.demanding, but others can also support. There is far greater

:44:15. > :44:17.consensus across the European Union than the press make out in this

:44:18. > :44:21.country, but the demand is all proposals that we make have to be

:44:22. > :44:25.reasonable, constructive ones that others can support, and that is

:44:26. > :44:29.where David Cameron has to draw his line very carefully. Vince Cable,

:44:30. > :44:32.everything you has been saying suggest you would be more

:44:33. > :44:37.comfortable with Labour on these policies than in a conservative

:44:38. > :44:42.coalition, post election. This is not an opportunity to score points

:44:43. > :44:45.pro or anti Labour, we are in coalition, working together, doing

:44:46. > :44:49.what has to be done to sort the economy out, but we have

:44:50. > :44:52.disagreements, sometimes quite strong. I do not seem to be having

:44:53. > :45:11.them this morning, on this issue we are going to agree. I will come back

:45:12. > :45:15.to you in a moment, but it's been quite a year for this show, a bit

:45:16. > :45:18.bumpy to say the least. But we've now been coming into your bedrooms

:45:19. > :45:21.every Sunday for eight years. Some poorly behaved people on the team

:45:22. > :45:25.have put together a little reminder of some of the big characters I've

:45:26. > :45:29.talked to in that time. I have said all I have got to say on this and I

:45:30. > :45:32.am not going to do anything other than to say I will refer you to the

:45:33. > :45:34.other answers I have given to your questions. There isn't anyone who

:45:35. > :45:40.believes your relationship with the Prime Minister has been happy and

:45:41. > :45:50.cheerful. What went wrong? I don't think it has gone wrong and I think

:45:51. > :45:56.Tony himself would say that. The relationship with God and was very

:45:57. > :46:03.difficult, it was also very close. It was as lovers, almost intense as

:46:04. > :46:09.that. Let me qualify that! The difficulty is when he was my number

:46:10. > :46:13.two in a sense. People may be overestimated his capacity to be

:46:14. > :46:20.Prime Minister. In the end it became clear we didn't share the same

:46:21. > :46:26.agenda. Good evening from Downing Street, where Gordon Brown took

:46:27. > :46:33.office as prime minister today. He hasn't hit you, sheltered at you?

:46:34. > :46:42.Hits me? Metaphorically or physically? I think history records

:46:43. > :46:49.that we have had our moments. It has been announced Gordon Brown will not

:46:50. > :46:55.call an election this year. I want to get on with the business of

:46:56. > :47:01.government. The new Prime Minister welcomes Nick Clegg to number ten,

:47:02. > :47:10.the Liberal Democrat leader becomes deputy prime minister. Of course we

:47:11. > :47:15.can do this minority government thing, it is simpler, it is what

:47:16. > :47:25.people expect but it is uninspiring. It is not what we ought to be doing.

:47:26. > :47:31.What do you actually make of him? In terms of the working partnership, we

:47:32. > :47:39.have a strong working partnership. Do you like him? We work well

:47:40. > :47:47.together. I don't think either of us go into this looking for friendship.

:47:48. > :47:52.There will be a divorce eventually. We are not married! You have not

:47:53. > :48:00.signed the papers. I am happily married to my wise, not Nick Clegg,

:48:01. > :48:05.if I can put it that way. Two candidates for this job, why are you

:48:06. > :48:14.better than your brother? I love David, he is one of my best friends

:48:15. > :48:21.in life. How are things going with your brother? Your brother is for

:48:22. > :48:29.life and you are a politician for a parliament at a time. Sometimes it

:48:30. > :48:35.hurts. It is worth saying that sometimes it hurts. Do you think I

:48:36. > :48:45.sometimes sound like a Central office Dalek? Daleks are supreme!

:48:46. > :48:51.Humans are weak! You have got me surrounded. Are you going to hear me

:48:52. > :49:00.complaining about the state of the media? No, you are not! Fame is a

:49:01. > :49:05.very difficult thing to manage. Everyday people are telling you that

:49:06. > :49:12.you are fantastic, every time they say that your head gets bigger and

:49:13. > :49:18.you are floating away. You were involved in the Obama campaign and

:49:19. > :49:27.there are still a lot of work to do there. I think Obama has enormous

:49:28. > :49:36.challenges ahead of him. You knew Obama way back? Yes, I did. He has

:49:37. > :49:42.been greater connecting but found the governing bit harder. It is

:49:43. > :49:49.harder when the other party's number one goal is to make his life

:49:50. > :49:53.difficult. Would you like there to be someone like the Queen with that

:49:54. > :49:58.sense of history that you could privately shoot the breeze with?

:49:59. > :50:06.Luck I don't know if anybody shoot the breeze with her Majesty the

:50:07. > :50:10.Queen. Our figurehead of the country is a woman, she has been doing this

:50:11. > :50:15.brilliant job for 60 years and I think the British public are just

:50:16. > :50:20.starting to understand how important it is. How do you think it is going

:50:21. > :50:25.at the moment? I think the country is in a mess and everybody should

:50:26. > :50:31.all together instead of this pathetic bickering. They should be

:50:32. > :50:36.men, even the women! Luck where there is discord, may we bring

:50:37. > :50:40.harmony. I remember when she was elected that we were secretly

:50:41. > :50:47.thrilled there was now a female head of state in Britain and we thought,

:50:48. > :50:56.if it could happen there, in America it is seconds away. Of course we

:50:57. > :50:59.were wrong again. Our political system at the moment, as soon as

:51:00. > :51:04.somebody walks into it at the moment they are swallowed by a vacuum,

:51:05. > :51:08.where nobody can say anything controversial, everybody has to stay

:51:09. > :51:14.on message and nobody is talking to each other at all. Even, I have

:51:15. > :51:22.changed my mind. If only somebody would say, I have seen that in

:51:23. > :51:31.progress and it doesn't bloody work. Something that your wife, Gayle,

:51:32. > :51:37.said to you, that the nastiness of politics had somehow contributed to

:51:38. > :51:42.your cancer. Yes, that is true. It would have been better for me to say

:51:43. > :51:49.I can do what I do, which I do quite well, then push it back. I am

:51:50. > :51:55.determined to die under a Labour government. I have to get a move on

:51:56. > :52:10.but the message is to have faith and try to change the world. Later on in

:52:11. > :52:15.my life I want to do politics and become a leader, and bring a change

:52:16. > :52:19.in Pakistan because I don't want to be a politician in a country which

:52:20. > :52:26.is already developed. I want to be a politician in a country which needs

:52:27. > :52:42.development. In Afghanistan may need our help. People there are starving,

:52:43. > :52:48.a lot of people are traumatised. I am an Anglican, this is what I wear

:52:49. > :52:52.to identify myself as a clergyman. Robert Mugabe has taken people's

:52:53. > :52:57.identity and cut it to pieces, this is what he has done and in the end

:52:58. > :53:13.there is nothing. From now on, I will not be wearing any collar until

:53:14. > :53:26.Mugabe has gone. You met Mao Zedong! We had an official dinner,

:53:27. > :53:36.he uses his own chopstick for some food, put it on my plate, a great

:53:37. > :53:43.honour. I feel little fear he was coughing too much, the

:53:44. > :54:05.chain-smoker! I might get some germs!

:54:06. > :54:14.The most deadly piece of fruit in British political history. It was my

:54:15. > :54:24.breakfast! I'm not sure I've ever been accused of being macho. That

:54:25. > :54:30.was for you, DC, it is all about you. I'm sorry but that is what you

:54:31. > :54:37.have got to do in the interests of the country. I'm sorry about that

:54:38. > :54:50.but they have got lots of reasons to be aghast at me.

:54:51. > :54:54.There you go, and Rory Bremner is here again as well. We didn't hear

:54:55. > :54:59.much from David Cameron in that shot but you have been working on him. I

:55:00. > :55:08.think we have had a bit of recovery this year and we have some choices

:55:09. > :55:14.now. We can tax rich people in their mansions, or poor people in their

:55:15. > :55:20.bedrooms. I think it is pretty clear, we should be. Where between

:55:21. > :55:24.Lord Cardigan and not behind these people with a spare room who they

:55:25. > :55:34.only use when a relative needs dialysis. Ed Miliband? It is a

:55:35. > :55:41.strange name because it sounds like something to do with the Internet. A

:55:42. > :55:51.lot of the country can only just get cable, to be honest with you. It has

:55:52. > :55:58.got that Chris Tarrant feeling to it. As a child, I swallowed a

:55:59. > :56:08.kazoo. The big thing is UKIP, and Nigel Farage. They are coming over

:56:09. > :56:14.here, putting our jobs at risk. I always think it looks like somebody

:56:15. > :56:22.is putting their finger up his bottom. Are you allowed to say

:56:23. > :56:26.that? It is too early! That's all for this morning, and indeed for

:56:27. > :56:29.this year. We'll be back on fifth January when I'll be talking to

:56:30. > :56:33.David Cameron. Until then, thanks to all my guests, and to all of you for

:56:34. > :56:36.watching. Merry Christmas. We leave you now with the Commitments, all

:56:37. > :56:57.the way from London's West End via Dublin and Motown - take it away!

:56:58. > :57:09.# I cannot turn you loose now because if I do I'm going to lose my

:57:10. > :57:16.mind. # I can't ever turn you loose now because if I do I'm going to

:57:17. > :57:25.lose my mind. # I can't turn you loose to nobody because I love you

:57:26. > :57:33.the way I do know. # I told my mum I'm in love with only you. # Do it,

:57:34. > :57:45.baby, I'm going to give you everything you want. # Never going

:57:46. > :57:58.to turn you loose, got to keep a grip on you.

:57:59. > :58:07.# you got to think, think about what you are trying to do to me. Think,

:58:08. > :58:19.let your mind go, let yourself be free. # Let's go back, back to way

:58:20. > :58:27.back when. # I ain't no doctor with a degree but it doesn't take much IQ

:58:28. > :58:31.to see what you are doing to me. # You had better think about what you

:58:32. > :58:43.are trying to do to me, think, let your mind be free. # Freedom,

:58:44. > :58:52.freedom, freedom! # freedom, freedom, freedom!

:58:53. > :59:04.# hey, think about it. # Hip shaking mama, I told you I'm in love with

:59:05. > :59:17.only you. Me and Alan don't always

:59:18. > :59:20.play by the rules. I think perhaps we should

:59:21. > :59:24.never mention it again. I'm getting wed again. I hope that's

:59:25. > :59:30.all right. Ready when you are, kid.