:00:35. > :00:40.Good morning. If the flooding of the Somerset Levels teaches us anything,
:00:41. > :00:43.it is that we need more immigrants. We need to bring them from Romania,
:00:44. > :00:48.Poland, France and the Netherlands to do our dirty work for us. I am
:00:49. > :00:52.referring, of course, not to humans, but to beavers. Experts are saying
:00:53. > :00:55.that the reintroduction of the beaver, now mostly extinct in the
:00:56. > :01:00.UK, would be the most cost-effective measure of water management around.
:01:01. > :01:05.And if ministers hate the idea, it is a scientifically proven fact that
:01:06. > :01:08.very few beavers claim benefits. Joining me today for our review of
:01:09. > :01:11.the Sunday newspapers, Isabel Hardman, who runs the Spectator
:01:12. > :01:15.magazine's coffee house blog, and Owen Jones, a columnist for the
:01:16. > :01:19.Independent. So, back to the main story of the
:01:20. > :01:22.weekend. David Cameron described the flooding in Somerset as "biblical"
:01:23. > :01:26.in scale. But it's one of those dramas which has been unfolding far
:01:27. > :01:28.from Westminster for weeks. Now it's a political crisis, with Government
:01:29. > :01:34.accused of complacency and neglect, and the Environment Agency in the
:01:35. > :01:38.dock. I'm joined by Eric Pickles, the Communities Secretary. What does
:01:39. > :01:42.the prime minister mean when he says there will be "no restriction" on
:01:43. > :01:45.help for those affected? Who will pay for it? And will we see big
:01:46. > :01:48.changes in the whole approach to flood prevention?
:01:49. > :01:52.Also this morning, another problem in need of long-term solutions, and
:01:53. > :01:55.that is welfare. With the Conservatives talking openly about
:01:56. > :01:58.deeper cuts to the range of benefits, we will hear from Rachel
:01:59. > :02:04.Reeves, in charge of both pensions and welfare than Labour. She is
:02:05. > :02:06.tipped as one of the party's rising stars.
:02:07. > :02:10.Of course, there are plenty of doughty souls who don't need claim a
:02:11. > :02:14.pension, because they just keep on working. I have been talking to that
:02:15. > :02:18.wonderful actress, Dame Angela Lansbury. Her first big-screen role
:02:19. > :02:29.came during the Second World War, and she is about to take to the
:02:30. > :02:34.London stage at the age of 88. Lucky woman, aren't I? O, my goodness, in
:02:35. > :02:42.every possible way. What a goer! Finally: A youthful talent. We will
:02:43. > :02:50.have music from the singer, Jake Bugg. All that is coming up, but
:02:51. > :02:52.first the news, with Sally Nugent. The prime minister is due to lead
:02:53. > :02:56.the latest emergency meeting on the flooding crisis today, as weather
:02:57. > :03:00.forecasters warn that yet more storms are due to hit the country
:03:01. > :03:04.this week. Climate change is likely to be a factor in the extreme
:03:05. > :03:09.weather that has hit much of the country in recent months. According
:03:10. > :03:14.to the Met Office's chief scientist, Dame Julia Slingo. Gales over the
:03:15. > :03:18.last few days have destroyed sections of railway track, leaving
:03:19. > :03:25.South West England cut off. Our reporter is in Chertsey.
:03:26. > :03:29.Yes, here on the River Thames, water levels are continuing to rise and
:03:30. > :03:33.are set to rise even higher than in 2003, the last time there was a
:03:34. > :03:37.major flood on this stretch of the river. A very sad incident behind me
:03:38. > :03:41.on the local side of the river yesterday. A seven-year-old boy died
:03:42. > :03:45.and 15 others were taken to hospital. It is a mystery as to
:03:46. > :03:49.precisely what happened, but we understand it was above the a carbon
:03:50. > :03:55.monoxide incident. The family had been pumping out their property. It
:03:56. > :04:01.could be that fumes from a generator built up and the family were
:04:02. > :04:08.overcome. The military are now helping out. Some soldiers have been
:04:09. > :04:12.busy overnight, not far from here. The Ministry of Defence says 1500
:04:13. > :04:15.soldiers are on stand-by to help if needed. Some of them were hard at
:04:16. > :04:20.work in Berkshire last night. But sandbags will not help protect the
:04:21. > :04:24.main rail line to and from the West Country, where it crosses the
:04:25. > :04:28.Somerset Levels. It is underwater, and more rain overnight means the
:04:29. > :04:32.water has continued to rise. There is no indication when this track may
:04:33. > :04:36.be back in use. The only other rail line into the West Country has been
:04:37. > :04:40.closed by damage to the track near Crewkerne . That could take several
:04:41. > :04:43.days to repair. Devon and Cornwall and parts of Somerset are now cut
:04:44. > :04:48.off I wail from the rest of the country. Replacement buses will have
:04:49. > :04:52.to do the work. Many big rivers like the Thames are continuing to rise.
:04:53. > :04:57.The government is warning that the situation will get worse before it
:04:58. > :05:08.gets better. The government will do what it takes to repair the damage,
:05:09. > :05:13.shore up the differences, ensure that people can go about their
:05:14. > :05:22.normal lives, safe from the ravages of this storm. This was Cornwall
:05:23. > :05:25.yesterday, where huge wave against the headland, leaving the rock
:05:26. > :05:29.covered in white foam. The strongest winds have now passed, but more
:05:30. > :05:35.heavy rain is forecast for later in the week.
:05:36. > :05:39.The military were helping out yesterday evening, trying to stop an
:05:40. > :05:43.electricity substation near Reading from being overcome by the
:05:44. > :05:47.floodwaters. The Berkshire Fire and Rescue Service are using a
:05:48. > :05:51.high-volume pump from another part of the country, because their
:05:52. > :05:56.specialist equipment is already in the Somerset Levels.
:05:57. > :05:58.The government is facing calls from Labour to reconsider proposed new
:05:59. > :06:01.laws requiring employers and landlords to carry out greater
:06:02. > :06:04.checks on the immigration status of foreign migrants. The immigration
:06:05. > :06:06.minister, Mark Harper, who was taking the legislation through
:06:07. > :06:17.Parliament, resigned yesterday after discovering that his cleaner was in
:06:18. > :06:20.the UK illegally. Investigations have been launched
:06:21. > :06:23.after a newspaper reported that thousands of confidential files
:06:24. > :06:27.containing details of Barclays bank customers have been stolen stop the
:06:28. > :06:32.Mail on Sunday says detailed, sensitive information from a
:06:33. > :06:37.database of what could be 27,000 files have been sold to brokers.
:06:38. > :06:40.The government is setting up a new body to try to get the long-term
:06:41. > :06:43.sick back to work more quickly. The health assessments will not be
:06:44. > :06:48.compulsory, but ministers hope it will save businesses ?70 million a
:06:49. > :06:52.year. The TUC says it welcomes the idea, but says it is worried that
:06:53. > :06:56.the focus will not be on getting people better again.
:06:57. > :06:59.An aid convoy in Syria has come under attack while attempting to
:07:00. > :07:04.deliver is supplied to a besieged part of the city of Homs. The United
:07:05. > :07:08.Nations has urged the Assad regime and rebels to respect a three-day
:07:09. > :07:11.truce. Despite the attack, the UN says it will not be deterred from
:07:12. > :07:16.doing its best to deliver aid. A special group -- second group of
:07:17. > :07:20.civilians was due to be evacuated today.
:07:21. > :07:23.That's all from me for now. I will be back with the headlines just
:07:24. > :07:28.before ten o'clock. Back to Andrew. Thank you, Sally. And now to the
:07:29. > :07:31.papers. A couple of storage to start with which have not made the news on
:07:32. > :07:36.the BBC. The Observer has an interview with Nick Clegg, who says
:07:37. > :07:42.Britain must join the debate on a new approach to the war on drugs.
:07:43. > :07:48.That means legalisation, but politicians can't find them -- can't
:07:49. > :07:52.bring themselves to say it. And Independent on Sunday has a good
:07:53. > :07:55.news story for once. It's about skin cells which can be turned into cells
:07:56. > :08:00.which can then treat diseases like Parkinson's and so forth. A really
:08:01. > :08:06.big medical breakthrough by their excellent correspondent. And so to a
:08:07. > :08:08.couple of papers, leading with probably the political story of the
:08:09. > :08:13.moment, the resignation of Mark Harper, the immigration minister,
:08:14. > :08:20.because his cleaner was here illegally. The Sunday Times also has
:08:21. > :08:26.a story about Dyson, swiftly becoming our national hero, who
:08:27. > :08:28.wants robots made in Britain to transform our lives. The Sunday
:08:29. > :08:38.Telegraph has the minister again quitting over his cleaner. That will
:08:39. > :08:42.do for now. Isabel, you are going to lead us off with the flood story,
:08:43. > :08:47.which dominates the papers. Yes, there is a double page spread in the
:08:48. > :08:53.Sunday Times about the effects of the flood. A seven-year-old boy has
:08:54. > :08:57.sadly died, possibly of carbon monoxide poisoning. The story also
:08:58. > :09:00.looks at the warnings that the Environment Agency and the
:09:01. > :09:03.government were sent prior to these floods. They knew about the danger
:09:04. > :09:11.months before, and they did not begin dredging or pumping on the
:09:12. > :09:14.Somerset Levels early enough. Yes, there was a series of letters which
:09:15. > :09:20.the government ignored? Yes, and there was a warning from a member of
:09:21. > :09:22.the Somerset drainage board that ditches in the area were blocked
:09:23. > :09:29.would not be able to cope with more heavy rainfall. Then there is an
:09:30. > :09:32.interview in the Mail on Sunday with Eric Pickles, who you will be
:09:33. > :09:38.speaking to, who as good as says that Environment Agency chief Chris
:09:39. > :09:44.Smith should go. He says he will not be printing save Chris Smith
:09:45. > :09:47.T-shirts any time soon. There is an angle about this which has been
:09:48. > :09:51.missed, which is the focus of the threat to the nation's food
:09:52. > :09:55.security. That is what the Observer looks at. The point is that
:09:56. > :10:00.already, this country depends on importing 30% of its food. And as
:10:01. > :10:04.the National Farmers' Union has pointed out, and their chairman is
:10:05. > :10:11.interviewed in the paper, over half of reductive farmland in this
:10:12. > :10:17.country lies within a flood plain -- productive farmland. Flood defences
:10:18. > :10:21.are currently focused on property, which means focusing on urban areas
:10:22. > :10:26.rather than agricultural areas. We have had all this talk about letting
:10:27. > :10:30.farmland go and surrendering parts of the Somerset Levels as well.
:10:31. > :10:34.Absolutely. The point that is also being made, which is a bit of a
:10:35. > :10:41.political football, with the dredging versus cuts argument, but
:10:42. > :10:44.the Environment Agency is obviously doing its best to protect the areas
:10:45. > :10:50.which are now under attack from floods, but they are cutting staff
:10:51. > :10:54.by 13% across all regions. The wider point the Observer looks at is, as
:10:55. > :10:58.extreme weather events become more common and we see them affecting
:10:59. > :11:04.other areas like the midwest in America and Australia and Ukraine,
:11:05. > :11:15.there is the threat that extreme weather poses to food security. Onto
:11:16. > :11:18.another story, Isabel. You have chosen one we might raise later with
:11:19. > :11:22.Rachel Reeves. It is a story in the Sunday Times that women are now shut
:11:23. > :11:25.out of the elite under the Tories. It is not just positions in the
:11:26. > :11:31.Cabinet, it is Cabinet committees that that government policy. The
:11:32. > :11:34.government has fewer than one in five female ambassadors who have
:11:35. > :11:40.been appointed since David Cameron came to power in 2010. And this sits
:11:41. > :11:45.alongside the problem that Tory women MPs are having in beginning to
:11:46. > :11:52.give up their seats because of macho attitudes in Parliament. Yes, but
:11:53. > :11:55.although in the case of those who are leaving, there are specific
:11:56. > :12:01.personal circumstances. To an extent, it is just down to a series
:12:02. > :12:05.of unfortunate events that it happens to be women who are leaving.
:12:06. > :12:11.There is a robin, but it is to do with supply. 16% of Conservative MPs
:12:12. > :12:14.are women. But if you look at the candidate elections they are
:12:15. > :12:20.making, I have been told that only 30% of people apply to be candidates
:12:21. > :12:23.are women. So the party is failing to attract women. Whether that is
:12:24. > :12:27.because women are hearing stories about there being a woman problem
:12:28. > :12:31.and wondering why to bother banging their head against a wall, I don't
:12:32. > :12:35.know. You are associated with the centre-right. Can you see the
:12:36. > :12:39.Conservative Party going for controversial all women short lists?
:12:40. > :12:44.I don't think they will and I don't think they should, because most
:12:45. > :12:49.women find those all women short lists difficult to stomach. If I had
:12:50. > :12:52.to go on an all woman short list to get a job, I would feel
:12:53. > :12:57.uncomfortable. You want to compete against the chaps on your own
:12:58. > :13:01.merits. But it is not working in terms of being women through. It is
:13:02. > :13:05.getting better. Cameron presided over a threefold increase in the
:13:06. > :13:09.number of female MPs. They have a campaign which involves doing
:13:10. > :13:12.intensive training with female candidates. But Labour benefit from
:13:13. > :13:20.having that positive discrimination policy. In 2014 in Britain, 80% of
:13:21. > :13:26.our parliamentarians are men. Sudan has a higher proportion of women in
:13:27. > :13:28.their parliament. Talking as a man, which is an unfortunate position to
:13:29. > :13:35.be in in this context, but there is a higher towards selecting men --
:13:36. > :13:38.there was a bias towards men and people have an image of what an MP
:13:39. > :13:43.is and how they should speak, and that seems to benefit men. Just
:13:44. > :13:46.ahead of this conversation, the government has introduced one extra
:13:47. > :13:51.female minister into power, and that is a consequence of Mark Harper, the
:13:52. > :13:58.immigration minister, shuffling off. Yes, the big political story is
:13:59. > :14:03.Mark Harper. He has been forced to resign. He was the immigration
:14:04. > :14:06.minister. Looking at what is not in the paper, we are supposed to look
:14:07. > :14:15.at this through the prism of Mark Harper. His cleaner, who has been
:14:16. > :14:18.washing his toilet the last few years, has been dispatched out of
:14:19. > :14:23.the country and will never be heard of again, while he keeps his
:14:24. > :14:28.backbench job. But the point about why his position was so untenable
:14:29. > :14:35.was that Mark Harper was the man who introduced the go home vans, which
:14:36. > :14:41.were sent into racially mixed communities in this country. Clearly
:14:42. > :14:44.not around his front door. People at the time thought this was an attempt
:14:45. > :14:51.to use public money to see off the UKIP threat, as the Sunday Telegraph
:14:52. > :14:57.says. He has also been at the forefront of the immigration
:14:58. > :15:04.legislation. And here we have the People, mocking up the van which the
:15:05. > :15:11.government introduced as a pilot scheme. Employing your cleaner
:15:12. > :15:16.illegally? Text us. Again, this legislation is basically turning
:15:17. > :15:21.landlords into unpaid border guards. If the immigration minister can't
:15:22. > :15:25.check whether or not his employee is illegal... There have been lots of
:15:26. > :15:29.old conversations with people who others depend upon. Are you here
:15:30. > :15:32.illegally? Can I see your paperwork? It is not how people would talk to
:15:33. > :15:37.their cleaners or people down the shop. No, and he was caught out
:15:38. > :15:41.here, because it turns out that this undocumented immigrant had forged
:15:42. > :15:45.their papers, so he had not checked thoroughly enough. I am not sure how
:15:46. > :15:49.people would in that situation. At with the immigration legislation now
:15:50. > :15:59.dead in landlords to do that, that raises questions about how workable
:16:00. > :16:04.the legislation is. The next story is referring to Rachel Reeves,
:16:05. > :16:09.having a hard time in Manchester. Yes, this is in the Independent on
:16:10. > :16:17.Sunday. Jane Merrick has also gone to the constituency to watch the
:16:18. > :16:22.by-election on folding. Labour think she will hold onto the seat quite
:16:23. > :16:32.easily, is that your impression? Yes, and also UKIP are going after
:16:33. > :16:40.the Labour vote. And UKIP are trying to say, Labour has betrayed you.
:16:41. > :16:49.They want to portray this as UKIP is quite normal coming second. Their
:16:50. > :16:54.candidate grew up in Wythenshawe on the council estates so he is very
:16:55. > :16:59.different to Nigel Farage and their message is different to the southern
:17:00. > :17:05.message, it is about protecting benefits. A bit like the Liberals,
:17:06. > :17:13.different messages for different parts of the country. Owen, your man
:17:14. > :17:20.is a threat to the Labour Party. I am from Stockport nearby, and I
:17:21. > :17:31.think a lot of people look at UKIP voters as Thatcher voters having a
:17:32. > :17:35.temper tantrum. On economic issues, UKIP voters are often to the left of
:17:36. > :17:47.the British public, more likely to support taxes on the rich, so you
:17:48. > :17:51.can see why... Radical nostalgia. It is the case that they are making
:17:52. > :17:55.inroads with working-class voters on things like immigration which is
:17:56. > :18:02.often frustration at the lack of housing and skilled jobs. They are
:18:03. > :18:07.difficult to pin down as well, I asked John Bickley if he was left or
:18:08. > :18:13.right wing, and he couldn't say, they have to be all things to all
:18:14. > :18:24.men. This is a rare example of a serving minister coming up with what
:18:25. > :18:29.they will talk about in opposition. Motives aside, I will probably end
:18:30. > :18:34.up saying I agree with Nick Clegg. I think this is an important
:18:35. > :18:38.contribution to the debate. Politicians tiptoe around the issue
:18:39. > :18:42.of prohibition of drugs, he is making a statement of the obvious
:18:43. > :18:48.which is nonetheless a radical thing in Britain, which is that cocaine
:18:49. > :18:54.use is tripled in less than 20 years and according to the social
:18:55. > :18:58.attitudes survey, sorry the crime survey, well over a third of Britons
:18:59. > :19:05.have tried illegal drugs at some point, it is a huge source of income
:19:06. > :19:19.for criminal gangs, and the point he is making... A lot of people would
:19:20. > :19:24.say there is not a -- enough censure of people using it. If you look at
:19:25. > :19:29.criminal gangs in Mexico, thousands of people have died, there is
:19:30. > :19:37.virtually a low-level civil war. Let's move to HS2 which is all over
:19:38. > :19:43.the papers. You have chosen one from the Independent on Sunday. There is
:19:44. > :19:46.also one in the Telegraph. This is fascinating. You wonder why
:19:47. > :19:57.Whitehall projects have gone wrong, then you see people going from
:19:58. > :20:07.project to project. This is Patrick McConnell, who has moved over from
:20:08. > :20:16.the NHS. Is he absolutely the right person to run HS2? Is he also the
:20:17. > :20:24.right person to encourage public confidence in HS2? Sochi is the
:20:25. > :20:32.other one, we have a cartoon. A brilliant cartoon here in the
:20:33. > :20:49.Observer, this is Vladimir Putin holding the Olympic flame and a
:20:50. > :20:52.Russian bear talking about homophobia behind him. It is
:20:53. > :20:58.important that people are raising the issues of Russia, the laws
:20:59. > :21:06.promoting persecution, the attacks by police and gay rights protesters,
:21:07. > :21:13.but I think the point... Just going to the Observer, to avoid striking
:21:14. > :21:19.too much of a self congratulatory stunts, Britain has come so far, but
:21:20. > :21:24.the point it makes is about the refugees in Britain. We have a
:21:25. > :21:26.situation where those trying to claim asylum fleeing homophobic
:21:27. > :21:33.persecution from many countries across the world are being asked the
:21:34. > :21:38.most intrusive questions to prove they are gay. I can't read them out,
:21:39. > :21:44.but just to save to your viewers they are truly shocking. There are
:21:45. > :21:49.even examples of these refugees filming themselves having sex with
:21:50. > :21:54.each other in order to prove they are gay. That is exactly the kind of
:21:55. > :21:58.story to be rampaging across Twitter. Both of you are heavily
:21:59. > :22:04.involved in social media, and you are both involved in old-fashioned
:22:05. > :22:10.media, the Independent and the Spectator. How different is your
:22:11. > :22:17.journalism online from what you do in print? You are always pressure --
:22:18. > :22:23.under pressure online to move quicker. I suppose you have more
:22:24. > :22:31.time perhaps in print to go out and research things. In social media,
:22:32. > :22:36.often with breaking news stories people are more likely to go on
:22:37. > :22:46.Twitter than turn on rolling news coverage. What -- if an incident
:22:47. > :22:52.unfolds in central London, he will have people tweeting about it which
:22:53. > :22:58.news networks use so it has the potential to democratise the
:22:59. > :23:03.mainstream media. It is a very angry democracy at the moment. If you look
:23:04. > :23:09.below the line, the level of Fiori and bile is astonishing. The good
:23:10. > :23:15.thing about social media is that anybody can use it, like that. That
:23:16. > :23:20.is one of the drawbacks. Back in the day, if you wanted to abuse a famous
:23:21. > :23:26.person, you had to get the paper, write it out, go to the post office.
:23:27. > :23:35.Now you can literally abuse anyone in the world like that in a second.
:23:36. > :23:40.If you want to abuse me, write to me in old-fashioned green ink.
:23:41. > :23:43.We've had some pretty doom-laden weather forecasts over the past few
:23:44. > :23:47.days - biblical, says Cameron - but we're short of Noahs, although we
:23:48. > :23:50.have seen a bit of sun between the westerly onslaughts. So what's in
:23:51. > :23:54.store today? Over to Sarah Keith-Lucas in the weather studio.
:23:55. > :23:58.The rest of today is not looking too bad. We will see a slow improving
:23:59. > :24:06.story for the rest of the day but it is still looking pretty wet for the
:24:07. > :24:10.next week or so. Three flood warnings are still in place. We have
:24:11. > :24:17.low pressure still in charge of the weather for the rest of today, and
:24:18. > :24:23.we have had a weather front spiralling around. The showers
:24:24. > :24:29.tending to ease away. Still quite a strong breeze blowing in from the
:24:30. > :24:34.south-west. Inland, some sunshine developing, some light showers, but
:24:35. > :24:40.feeling quite chilly in that breeze, at the best perhaps seven or eight
:24:41. > :24:44.degrees. Most of the showers tend to ease overnight, some patchy rain
:24:45. > :24:50.moving perhaps into the south-east of England, but we will see quite a
:24:51. > :24:54.cold night to come with some frost developing and possibly some icy
:24:55. > :25:00.stretches on Monday morning. Monday looks like it will be a quieter day,
:25:01. > :25:07.much less windy than in recent days. The rain will not be too heavy,
:25:08. > :25:13.temperatures between six and nine degrees, but more of the same to
:25:14. > :25:16.come - in the week ahead, more rain in the forecast, more gales and
:25:17. > :25:24.further problems with flooding so we are not out of the woods just yet.
:25:25. > :25:28.Pensions and benefits are the biggest area of Government
:25:29. > :25:32.expenditure - about ?200 billion pounds a year. And despite all the
:25:33. > :25:35.cuts we've heard so much about it, the bill keeps on rising. Whoever is
:25:36. > :25:38.in power after the next election will have to control spending, as
:25:39. > :25:41.Labour's spokeswoman on work and pensions admits. Rachel Reeves is
:25:42. > :25:50.with me now. Welcome. That is the basic truth, isn't it? You will have
:25:51. > :25:54.to keep a tight grip on welfare spending. That's true. It is
:25:55. > :26:00.important we use the potential of everybody so instead of paying out
:26:01. > :26:09.huge benefits to people, we are helping them get back into work. At
:26:10. > :26:13.the moment we are paying ?350 million a year out to unemployment
:26:14. > :26:18.benefits and lost tax revenue for the long-term unemployed, it would
:26:19. > :26:23.be much better if those people were in work contributing. Similarly, a
:26:24. > :26:28.basic skills tests to ensure the people claiming job-seeker's
:26:29. > :26:33.allowance have the skills to be able to get a job. I'm glad we've got
:26:34. > :26:41.these two Familia policies out to start with because my main question
:26:42. > :26:50.is that you are committed to the triple lock on pensions. Are there
:26:51. > :26:57.any cuts that you support? We have said winter fuel allowance should be
:26:58. > :27:00.cut for the richest pensioners so that is something we would do that
:27:01. > :27:06.the Government haven't committed to do. The best way to bring down the
:27:07. > :27:12.working age benefits bill is to make sure more people are in work and in
:27:13. > :27:17.better paid work. At the moment we have a record number of people not
:27:18. > :27:26.being paid a living wage and as a result they have to call on housing
:27:27. > :27:33.benefit. It is also about ensuring more people are in full-time,
:27:34. > :27:37.decently paid work. The Institute for Fiscal Studies says you need to
:27:38. > :27:41.take a third out of the welfare bill and you cannot tell me a single
:27:42. > :27:48.working age benefits you would court. The best way to reduce the
:27:49. > :27:51.benefits bill is to make sure fewer people are claiming benefits.
:27:52. > :27:56.Despite the rhetoric from this Government, they are spending ?15
:27:57. > :28:01.billion more than they planned on welfare, despite the fact they are
:28:02. > :28:06.making these cuts. The only way you can bring down the Social Security
:28:07. > :28:13.Bill is to make sure fewer people are claiming them. Forget cuts, it
:28:14. > :28:18.is about the hope of growth. You have given yourselves a big target
:28:19. > :28:26.and you say it will be done by increasing employment. No tough
:28:27. > :28:30.decisions whatsoever. The job is guaranteed to make sure no one can
:28:31. > :28:44.stay unemployed for more than a year under the age of 25... Both of those
:28:45. > :28:49.extra spending in the short term. These are tangible things we can do
:28:50. > :28:52.straightaway, getting people into work and paying taxes on National
:28:53. > :28:56.Insurance rather than being paid benefits, cracking down on zero our
:28:57. > :29:05.contracts, and also building more houses. No hard decisions at all,
:29:06. > :29:08.all about expanding the economy, spending more money, hitting the
:29:09. > :29:13.rich, but nothing in terms of cracking down on working age
:29:14. > :29:19.benefits at all? We have been very clear that we will not be able to
:29:20. > :29:24.reverse any of the changes the Government have made, apart from
:29:25. > :29:28.bedroom tax. Things like restrictions to child benefit which
:29:29. > :29:35.we didn't support, we will have to stick with. What about the overall
:29:36. > :29:39.cap per household? We have said we will support that individual
:29:40. > :29:42.benefits cap, and we support that principle but nobody should be
:29:43. > :29:47.better off on benefits than they are in work, and that means having the
:29:48. > :29:57.benefits cap but also making sure work pays. Housing benefit, is it
:29:58. > :30:06.out of control? The housing benefit bill is too high. What are you going
:30:07. > :30:11.to do about it? The housing benefit bill for people working part-time
:30:12. > :30:16.but who want to work full-time has risen so housing benefit is going to
:30:17. > :30:20.people who are in work but not able to pay rent so we need to do more to
:30:21. > :30:25.ensure people are in full-time jobs because we have a record number of
:30:26. > :30:31.people working part-time but want to work full-time. Also we have got to
:30:32. > :30:36.build those houses. Rent is going up in the private sector because demand
:30:37. > :30:43.is massively outstripping supply. We have a review on how we can build
:30:44. > :30:47.200,000 homes per year, for example saying to developers that they have
:30:48. > :30:53.the land, if they have the land they have to build the homes. Another
:30:54. > :30:57.spending commitment. A lot of people watching, including Labour
:30:58. > :31:03.supporters, will be saying to themselves, if you vote Labour there
:31:04. > :31:08.will be no difficult decisions on cuts. The reason the housing benefit
:31:09. > :31:12.bill is going up is because we are not building the housing. We are
:31:13. > :31:18.saying that under a Labour government, it is not Labour
:31:19. > :31:22.building 200,000 homes per year, but we will do that by demanding more
:31:23. > :31:28.from private sector developers as well and that will help control the
:31:29. > :31:32.Social Security cost. Actually, those houses being available to
:31:33. > :31:37.people in this country rather than being sold off to investors
:31:38. > :31:41.overseas. If we build those houses, we enable British families to live
:31:42. > :31:50.in those homes, we can bring down the benefits bill. The problem is
:31:51. > :31:55.that as a party, you have set yourself a tough and limited
:31:56. > :32:01.timetable over four or five years to remove this huge deficit. And of
:32:02. > :32:04.course, if the economy grows and more houses are built in due course
:32:05. > :32:09.and more people got to work, then in due course, the benefits bill will
:32:10. > :32:13.come down. But the problem is to get it down quickly in the short term.
:32:14. > :32:17.And you appear to have no idea as a party about how to do that.
:32:18. > :32:21.Actually, we have a commitment to say that anybody who is under 25 and
:32:22. > :32:28.has been out of work for a year, we will guarantee them a job. In a few
:32:29. > :32:35.years' time, that is not something we would do. We would do it right
:32:36. > :32:41.now. How much would that save? At the moment, we spent ?350 million a
:32:42. > :32:50.year keeping young people out of work. Pity six thousand -- we would
:32:51. > :32:56.say to those young people, we will guarantee you a job, funded by the
:32:57. > :33:02.bank bonus tax, 25 hours of work or training. You have to take that or
:33:03. > :33:05.forfeit your benefits basic skills, you have to go to college and get
:33:06. > :33:13.them . If you don't want them, you forfeit your benefits. So everybody
:33:14. > :33:18.would have to go into work or into training. That is our commitment,
:33:19. > :33:24.that those who are out of work for more than a year, it is the right
:33:25. > :33:30.thing to do by those people and by the taxpayer. That is highly
:33:31. > :33:33.ambitious. If you look at what we did with the future jobs fund when
:33:34. > :33:38.we were in government, that helped 100 hours and people into work and
:33:39. > :33:42.therefore helped to bring down the benefits bill to those people. This
:33:43. > :33:47.government are allowing young people to stay on benefits year after year.
:33:48. > :33:53.900,000 people have been out of work. It is a huge waste of young
:33:54. > :33:59.people's skills. We have got to do better.
:34:00. > :34:03.Well, the Oscars are almost upon us. The opening ceremony takes place
:34:04. > :34:07.in Los Angeles three weeks from today. One recent Oscar recipient
:34:08. > :34:11.was first nominated for an Academy Award 70 years ago. Dame Angela
:34:12. > :34:15.Lansbury may be most famous as the beady-eyed sleuth in Murder, She
:34:16. > :34:18.Wrote, but she has had a truly illustrious movie career. She
:34:19. > :34:22.starred alongside the likes of Ingrid Bergman, Elizabeth Taylor,
:34:23. > :34:26.Frank Sinatra and even Elvis Presley. Dame Angela's return to the
:34:27. > :34:33.London stage at the age of 88 is in Noel Coward's comedy, Blithe Spirit.
:34:34. > :34:37.When we met, I began by asking her about her wonderfully wacky
:34:38. > :34:42.character, the medium Madame Arcati. Madame Arcati is an iconic character
:34:43. > :34:47.who has haunted me now for a number of years. We did her first on
:34:48. > :34:52.Broadway almost five years ago, and it was an enormous success. I felt
:34:53. > :35:00.that Madame Arcati was a role I should play, although I never saw
:35:01. > :35:09.the original, which was a great success in London. I wanted to play
:35:10. > :35:14.this part. Once I read it, I knew it was something to get my teeth into.
:35:15. > :35:16.My mother was a medium before me, so I had the opportunity of starting on
:35:17. > :35:23.the ground floor, as you might say. I had my first chance when I was
:35:24. > :35:26.four and a half, and my first ectoplasmic manifestation when I was
:35:27. > :35:35.five and a half. What an exciting day that was. It is a very poignant
:35:36. > :35:40.play as well as a funny play. Yes. It is mostly funny. Madame Arcati is
:35:41. > :35:44.a very intense, serious woman who really believes in what she is
:35:45. > :35:49.doing. And by mistake but she gets results. This is what makes her
:35:50. > :35:54.fantastically funny, because you think she is a complete send-up and
:35:55. > :36:00.doesn't know what she is doing. But it turns out she does. So her
:36:01. > :36:03.results are hilarious. Now, anyone who knows their politics in this
:36:04. > :36:07.country knows of the great George Lansbury. Until recently, I did not
:36:08. > :36:11.know you were his granddaughter. Leader of the Labour Party for a
:36:12. > :36:16.long time, a great pacifist, pro-women's rights. Do you remember
:36:17. > :36:23.him? Very well. He was a huge figure in my young life, growing up. He was
:36:24. > :36:33.in our house of great deal. They were always talking politics. He was
:36:34. > :36:37.a friend of Gandhi. Oh, yes. You experienced the blitz in the early
:36:38. > :36:40.days, and then your family took you to America. When you read your
:36:41. > :36:46.biography, you are almost immediately a star after going to
:36:47. > :36:55.America. It was very swift. I had some salad days.
:36:56. > :37:03.Tell the master I went for a walk. By yourself? Of course. Suppose the
:37:04. > :37:08.master asks where? We remember you alongside a huge number of greater
:37:09. > :37:13.stars, Ingrid Bergman, Elizabeth Taylor and Elvis Presley and Frank
:37:14. > :37:18.Sinatra. Of all those people, who sticks in your mind is your closest
:37:19. > :37:25.friend in that period? Ingrid Bergman war was marvellous to work
:37:26. > :37:31.with. So serious, but so kind. Ingrid, being Swedish, she had this
:37:32. > :37:36.lovely quality of being and every woman. I loved her. She was so kind
:37:37. > :37:40.and worked so hard. In those days, we rehearsed movies, and we don't do
:37:41. > :37:44.that any more. You learn your lines, you should and that is it.
:37:45. > :37:53.You would rehearse like a stage play? Yes, we did. It was a whole
:37:54. > :37:56.world that was totally different and no longer exists. You had your first
:37:57. > :38:01.Hollywood career, and then you went onstage a lot. You have rebuilt your
:38:02. > :38:06.career in many ways in a series of great roles. But you are not just an
:38:07. > :38:11.actress, you are a singer and dancer as well and that was important?
:38:12. > :38:19.Yes, it was part of my bag of tricks is as a performer. As a youngster in
:38:20. > :38:28.loved. loved.
:38:29. > :38:31.# You lovey-dovey kid. Of course, the nine people out of
:38:32. > :38:34.ten these days, you are best known for Murder, She Wrote. That is the
:38:35. > :38:41.most successful ever detected series around the world. -- detective
:38:42. > :38:45.series. I read that when you took it over, you said, no violence. And
:38:46. > :38:50.that is paradoxically wired has been so successful. I think it is. It was
:38:51. > :38:55.a show you could watch if you were six years old or 60 or 80. Families
:38:56. > :39:02.watched it together. And as you say, there was no obvious violence. I
:39:03. > :39:08.used to say, just give me a corpse and I will solve the problem. That
:39:09. > :39:09.was what it was about. Apparently, you haven't heard.
:39:10. > :39:15.Last night, the police arrested him. We knew got the role, had you
:39:16. > :39:20.any idea that it would make your fortune and make you a household
:39:21. > :39:24.name the decades? I did not have a clue. I truly went into television,
:39:25. > :39:29.not aware of what could be achieved by playing the role of a very
:39:30. > :39:34.simple, liberal woman. And it is running on a loop now, so everybody
:39:35. > :39:40.under the age of 26 can watch it all afternoon. I know, it is lovely. It
:39:41. > :39:47.is lovely that people will remember me for that. That is OK. You have
:39:48. > :39:54.got an Oscar and an opening in the West End after 40 years. Not bad.
:39:55. > :39:58.Lucky woman, aren't I? Absolutely. Thank you very much. Pleasure
:39:59. > :40:02.talking to you. No flies on her.
:40:03. > :40:05.The very vital Angela Lansbury, talking to me there. As the water
:40:06. > :40:09.levels continue to rise, various careers appear to be an almost as
:40:10. > :40:12.much danger as those houses on the Somerset Levels. Chris Smith, Labour
:40:13. > :40:15.peer and chair of the Environment Agency, has been lambasted on all
:40:16. > :40:18.fronts. Owen Paterson, Environment Secretary and bete noire of the good
:40:19. > :40:22.folk of Somerset, has now withdrawn from the scene for an eye operation.
:40:23. > :40:24.Step forward, Eric Pickles, who has been put in charge of the
:40:25. > :40:33.government's flood response. Welcome, Communities Secretary. Nice
:40:34. > :40:37.to be here. Is the Environment Agency fit for purpose? Of course it
:40:38. > :40:42.is. It may have made some misjudgements, but right now, the
:40:43. > :40:47.women and men of the Environment Agency are working round the clock,
:40:48. > :40:55.doing fantastic jobs in shoring up our defences and offering advice.
:40:56. > :40:58.There have been some suggestions about advice on the Somerset Levels
:40:59. > :41:06.not being as good as it could have been. Is it well led? Parts of it
:41:07. > :41:16.are well led. It is important now to get about the process of repairing
:41:17. > :41:22.the damage, assessing the future. Do you think it needs to refocus and
:41:23. > :41:29.operate differently? It needs to recognise that one solution is not
:41:30. > :41:34.appropriate. I will be talking about dredging. Dredging might be
:41:35. > :41:42.appropriate for the Somerset Levels, but this is not appropriate
:41:43. > :41:52.everywhere. There are areas around Essex where the flooding and
:41:53. > :41:59.dredging has not been so effective. Clearly, we want to protect people
:42:00. > :42:04.and make them feel safe in their homes. But there is also important
:42:05. > :42:11.farmland, and we want to make sure it is there to grow crops and be
:42:12. > :42:14.part of a vibrant rural Icahn. -- economy. I never think it is going
:42:15. > :42:18.to be a straight choice. Somebody you wisely wrote last week, just
:42:19. > :42:23.because we can't protect everything, it does not mean we
:42:24. > :42:27.can't protect everyone. A lot of people think too much is being spent
:42:28. > :42:31.on bureaucracy in this agency and not enough on the front line
:42:32. > :42:36.services. It is the biggest in Europe, bigger than the United
:42:37. > :42:51.States' Environment Agency. But a reasonably small sum goes on
:42:52. > :42:56.staffing. That is a strange way of organising their budgets. Well, I am
:42:57. > :43:00.sure they will be reassessing. You said you would not wear a save Chris
:43:01. > :43:06.Smith T-shirt. Should he go? That is a matter for him. I don't think I
:43:07. > :43:12.should not him out. Let me turn back to the question of what is going on
:43:13. > :43:15.in Somerset. Chris Smith has been criticised a lot. The government
:43:16. > :43:19.itself was warned several times by different farmers and agencies last
:43:20. > :43:25.summer that dredging was needed. In each case, there was a refusal. So
:43:26. > :43:32.the government is responsible, isn't it? We made a mistake, no doubt
:43:33. > :43:38.about that. We perhaps relied too much on the Environment Agency's
:43:39. > :43:45.advice. We now recognise that we should have dredged. It is important
:43:46. > :43:50.now that we get on the process of getting those people back into their
:43:51. > :43:54.houses once we are able to do some serious pumping. So you think people
:43:55. > :43:59.including the prime minister's office should apologise to the
:44:00. > :44:04.farmer who said, you need to dredged now? Well, I will apologise
:44:05. > :44:09.unreservedly. I am sorry we took what we thought was the advice of
:44:10. > :44:17.text that is. And there are 3 million running in four extra
:44:18. > :44:21.dredging 's? I don't know the exact amounts. But there will be money for
:44:22. > :44:31.dredging, which is going to carry on as far as the eye can see in the
:44:32. > :44:35.Somerset Levels? Well, they were man-made. It was medieval monks who
:44:36. > :44:37.did it. You have got better information than me. I did not
:44:38. > :44:43.realise the march had been around for so long. I will take your word
:44:44. > :44:48.for that. Can we talk about climate change more generally? The head of
:44:49. > :44:53.the relevant quango has said this was probably caused by climate
:44:54. > :44:58.change. He said probably. I have listened to experts, and after a
:44:59. > :45:03.while it became clear to me that from an educated point of view,
:45:04. > :45:08.nobody really knows. To a degree, I don't think it matters whether it is
:45:09. > :45:12.climate change or whether it is part of the cycle we normally see with
:45:13. > :45:21.the weather. We have to deal with the consequences. We will be trying
:45:22. > :45:25.to get the south-west going again. As we move towards the middle of
:45:26. > :45:29.next week, the Thames Valley is likely to see flooding. The reason
:45:30. > :45:34.the climate change issue might matter is that if it is planned
:45:35. > :45:36.change, we will have 30 or 40 years ahead of extreme weather, so we have
:45:37. > :45:45.to think carefully now about new kinds of offences and transport
:45:46. > :45:49.protection. We have got to ensure there is good
:45:50. > :45:56.protection around strategic infrastructure, pumping stations,
:45:57. > :46:01.water, electricity generation, major transport infrastructure, and we are
:46:02. > :46:06.in the process of making our infrastructure as sustainable as
:46:07. > :46:11.possible. Protecting infrastructure and farmland and towns will be
:46:12. > :46:17.hugely expensive. Do you still think it is a good idea to spend so much
:46:18. > :46:22.money on HS2? We have to understand that if we don't increase the
:46:23. > :46:30.capacity on that line up to Birmingham, up the whole West Coast,
:46:31. > :46:35.we will be looking at having to prop up a Victorian railway, 20 or 30
:46:36. > :46:39.years of disruption. What we are looking at in the south-west is to
:46:40. > :46:46.get the trains going as quickly as possible, in the meantime we are
:46:47. > :46:53.putting on extra buses and we have been able to increase the flow of
:46:54. > :46:57.aircraft. Putting on a bigger service, bigger planes, and we are
:46:58. > :47:03.trying to make sure the south-west can get on with normal life. I know
:47:04. > :47:06.there have been these meetings going on, any sense of how long it will
:47:07. > :47:13.take to reconnect the south-west of the rest of the country by train?
:47:14. > :47:21.Much depends on what is going on... You saw the size of Brunel 's, that
:47:22. > :47:30.wonderful stretch of railway, the gap. This will be running political
:47:31. > :47:35.sore. If it is not collected in a year, a lot of people will be livid
:47:36. > :47:41.with the Government. I don't think there is any suggestion it will take
:47:42. > :47:47.a year. I was only throwing that out as a helpful suggestion. I don't
:47:48. > :47:52.think that is helpful, but there we are. Do you think there will be
:47:53. > :47:57.parts of the country that we cannot afford to protect, parts of the
:47:58. > :48:08.coastline where it is just too expensive? From Norfolk and we have
:48:09. > :48:10.seen movements over the centuries, some villagers have completely
:48:11. > :48:17.disappeared, and there are parts which are now land bands so that
:48:18. > :48:23.will always go on but in terms of giving up major amounts of our
:48:24. > :48:28.country to the sea, of course not. You will fight them on the beaches,
:48:29. > :48:42.as it were. We will fight them on the Fens. The Thames is now a
:48:43. > :48:47.concern as well? We anticipate that it will work its way down, already
:48:48. > :48:53.people are talking to householders about what they can do.
:48:54. > :48:56.Traditionally there has been quite a lot of flooding in the past so
:48:57. > :49:03.people are well adapted to it, but we will ensure that pumping
:49:04. > :49:08.stations, electricity generation and major infrastructure for transport
:49:09. > :49:14.and rail are protected as we speak. Sitting in those meetings, are you
:49:15. > :49:21.happy and convinced the Government has got control over this? Anyone
:49:22. > :49:26.who thinks they can control the weather is over King Canute, but the
:49:27. > :49:31.problem is it is not how bad the storms have been, they have been
:49:32. > :49:37.pretty bad, but it is a cumulative effect. It has been said that local
:49:38. > :49:42.authorities do not have the resources, they have been under the
:49:43. > :49:51.cosh for a long time. Local authorities should have no problem
:49:52. > :49:58.about this. I have changed the threshold... So more money can come
:49:59. > :50:03.in. Absolutely, it is pretty well-established. They have been
:50:04. > :50:09.doing a fantastic job, and so have individual councillors who have
:50:10. > :50:15.often been right there at the water's edge. Do you think Mark
:50:16. > :50:21.Harper, the Immigration Minister, really hard to go? I was sad to see
:50:22. > :50:27.him go, he was a strong minister and if he was a member of the public he
:50:28. > :50:33.wouldn't have been regarded as doing anything wrong but he failed that
:50:34. > :50:38.standard and stuck down. If the Minister can get into that kind of
:50:39. > :50:43.tangle, don't you think anybody can, and therefore the legislation
:50:44. > :50:49.is too tough? If this was a member of the public, they would have done
:50:50. > :50:54.nothing wrong. Now the news headlines. The communities secretary
:50:55. > :50:59.has apologised to people who have been badly flooded, saying mistakes
:51:00. > :51:04.have been made over the issue of dredging. He said the Environment
:51:05. > :51:08.Agency have been guilty of misjudgements. There will be a
:51:09. > :51:12.meeting on the flooding crisis today, as weather forecasters have
:51:13. > :51:22.warned more storms will hit the UK this week. Two severe flood warnings
:51:23. > :51:27.remain in place in the Somerset levels and a third has been issued
:51:28. > :51:32.along some coastal parts of Dorset. The Government is facing calls from
:51:33. > :51:36.Labour to reconsider proposed new yours requiring employers and
:51:37. > :51:41.landlords to carry out greater checks on the immigration status of
:51:42. > :51:45.foreign migrants. The Immigration Minister, Mark Harper, who was
:51:46. > :51:53.taking the legislation through Parliament, resigned yesterday after
:51:54. > :51:57.discovering his cleaner was in the UK illegally. Back to Andrew in a
:51:58. > :52:02.moment, but first let's look at what is coming up immediately after this
:52:03. > :52:07.programme. We will be in Leicester at ten, debating the Vatican 's
:52:08. > :52:12.reaction to the UN report on child abuse. Trophy hunting for big game.
:52:13. > :52:19.And when it is OK to be funny about religion.
:52:20. > :52:22.Well Eric Pickles is still with me, and we've been joined again by
:52:23. > :52:37.Rachel Reeves. You have both presumably been caught up in the
:52:38. > :52:45.Tube problems this week. Do you agree that Tube strikes should be
:52:46. > :52:51.illegal? If you had that, presumably you would have the same for
:52:52. > :53:03.elections. Often it doesn't top 50% so they have to be careful what they
:53:04. > :53:08.argue for. I thought the effect they had on the UK, London economy would
:53:09. > :53:13.be pretty bad and people were inconvenienced when the weather was
:53:14. > :53:19.dreadful, and frankly the turnout wasn't that impressive for the Tube
:53:20. > :53:27.strike. It just seems a primitive way of going about it. So you agree
:53:28. > :53:33.with Boris? Both sides are right, Eric is right that it has had a big
:53:34. > :53:39.impact on London. She will answer for me. I don't think there is a
:53:40. > :53:45.majority in the House of Commons. Do either of you think there is a
:53:46. > :53:53.problem with getting women in the House of Commons? Both parties are
:53:54. > :54:01.troubled. Both are losing female members, this time retiring. When I
:54:02. > :54:07.was a party chairman I made a big effort to get women in and if I may
:54:08. > :54:15.say I was pretty successful in doing so. Not very successful, we still
:54:16. > :54:21.have far too few women. I agree. We found that once we got women to
:54:22. > :54:25.membership, the final meeting, they did remarkably well. Wants the
:54:26. > :54:37.Tories get into parliament, they tend to quit. The first major
:54:38. > :54:44.political party to have a woman as a leader was of course Margaret
:54:45. > :54:51.Thatcher. Your time will come! All parties need to do more to get women
:54:52. > :54:55.into Parliament but I'm proud that in the Labour Shadow Cabinet almost
:54:56. > :55:00.half of us are women and we have done that through a huge amount of
:55:01. > :55:04.effort with women only short lists, by encouraging women, and reforming
:55:05. > :55:11.the party. The Conservatives have got an awful lot to do, instead of
:55:12. > :55:16.this complacency about women who are standing down. I remember Caroline
:55:17. > :55:22.Flint saying that she felt she was there just is a window dresser when
:55:23. > :55:30.she was in Parliament. Thank you to both of you. Now, I mentioned
:55:31. > :55:33.earlier on that it's Oscars season in the film world. Well, for rock
:55:34. > :55:36.and pop musicians it's also nearly time for this year's Brit Awards.
:55:37. > :55:39.One singer-songwriter who's hotly tipped to win Best Solo Artist is
:55:40. > :55:42.19-year-old Jake Bugg from Nottingham. His first album was a
:55:43. > :55:46.number one hit and having been hailed by one reviewer as "an East
:55:47. > :55:50.Midlands Bob Dylan" he's back with a new album, Shangri La. I'm going to
:55:51. > :56:04.be talking to him in a moment, but first here he is in concert last
:56:05. > :56:09.summer at Glastonbury. Welcome. Your first album was very
:56:10. > :56:12.much about your background on the streets of Nottingham, since then
:56:13. > :56:17.you have become this extraordinary global success, first-class lounges
:56:18. > :56:24.and celebrity and all of that, does that give you problems about what to
:56:25. > :56:29.write about? No, it is strange after everything that has happened in the
:56:30. > :56:34.last 12 years to go home and see the life I lived for so long after
:56:35. > :56:39.everything that has happened, and see it from a different
:56:40. > :56:43.perspective, it is completely different. Great. We are going to
:56:44. > :56:53.hear a song from your new album, Shangri La which was recorded in LA.
:56:54. > :56:57.Malibu. Very exotic. We're almost out of time. Thanks to all my guests
:56:58. > :57:01.this morning. Next week, we'll have a very busy show - I'll be talking
:57:02. > :57:04.to the Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney. Also, the EU
:57:05. > :57:07.President, Jose Manuel Barroso. And, that smooth and highly political
:57:08. > :57:12.screen star George Clooney. So do join me then, but for now we leave
:57:13. > :57:23.you with Jake Bugg, and his song 'Me And You'. Goodbye.
:57:24. > :57:29.# All the time people follow us where we go # We both should believe
:57:30. > :57:34.the path we chose # And I hold you in such delicacy # No they won't
:57:35. > :57:36.catch you and me # It's all over, all of the time # And if you want
:57:37. > :58:08.to, I won't mind # # Please don't leave it, I don't
:58:09. > :58:21.know what to do # No they won't catch me and you # There are too
:58:22. > :58:34.many flashes # And Gordons around me # There's so little time and places
:58:35. > :58:55.to see # And we can wait so patiently # No they won't catch you
:58:56. > :59:03.and me # It's all over, all of the time # And if you want to, I won't
:59:04. > :59:19.mind # Please don't leave it, I don't know what to do # No they
:59:20. > :59:24.won't catch me and you # No they won't catch you and me # No they