:00:36. > :00:39.Good morning. A great American President, Theodore Roosevelt,
:00:40. > :00:44.counselled his fellow leaders to speak softly and carry a big stick.
:00:45. > :00:46.Wise words indeed, but current Western leaders, responding to
:00:47. > :00:51.Russia's annexation of the Crimea, are taking a somewhat different
:00:52. > :00:55.approach. Our version seems to be, scream at the top of your voice and
:00:56. > :00:58.carry a twig. Martin Sixsmith reported from Russia for the BBC for
:00:59. > :01:01.many years. He's reviewing the papers for us this morning,
:01:02. > :01:09.alongside the Daily Mail's, Amanda Platell. In Crimea, the first
:01:10. > :01:12.soldier has been shot and killed. Russian soldiers battered their way
:01:13. > :01:15.into two military bases last night where Ukrainian soldiers were
:01:16. > :01:18.holding out and many in Ukraine fear that a wider Russian land grab is
:01:19. > :01:22.next. So, how should the West respond? I've been speaking to two
:01:23. > :01:24.figures at the centre of this increasingly dangerous looking
:01:25. > :01:27.standoff. The Russian ambassador to the European Union, Vladimir
:01:28. > :01:42.Chizhov, and to the man who's the former presidential candidate,
:01:43. > :01:46.senator John McCain. I would send a small delegation of our military to
:01:47. > :01:50.Kiev. Goodness! It's always said that you shouldn't judge a Budget
:01:51. > :01:52.until the dust has had time to settle. George Osborne was warmly
:01:53. > :01:56.applauded last week for helping savers and putting Labour on the
:01:57. > :01:59.back foot. But the respected IFS now says his sums don't quite add up,
:02:00. > :02:02.while the Pension Ministers quip that pensioners could use their new
:02:03. > :02:06.freedom to buy Lamborghinis has outraged financial advisers. George
:02:07. > :02:11.Osborne's number two, Danny Alexander, is with me. Does he wince
:02:12. > :02:15.at the mention of Lamborghinis? And, after a tough week for Labour, its
:02:16. > :02:19.business spokesman, Chuka Umunna, is here too. With fine music this
:02:20. > :02:31.morning from the rich baritone voice of Gregory Porter.
:02:32. > :02:36.It is a busy morning, a lovely morning. First, as always, the news
:02:37. > :02:38.from Naga Munchetty. Good morning. The Australian Prime Minister, Tony
:02:39. > :02:41.Abbott, says satellite images are giving increasing hope of
:02:42. > :02:45.discovering what happened to the Malaysian passenger jet, which
:02:46. > :02:48.disappeared more than two weeks ago. Planes from China have joined the
:02:49. > :02:52.search in the southern Indian Ocean today. Aircraft on the scene have
:02:53. > :02:55.been investigating a possible sighting of debris in the water. Our
:02:56. > :03:08.Sydney correspondent, Phil Mercer, reports. These are some of the world
:03:09. > :03:14.'s most remote seas. Are they about to give us some tangible clues? The
:03:15. > :03:22.satellite pictures show us a large object in the Indian Ocean, close to
:03:23. > :03:25.where other unidentified fragments were seen. The Australian Prime
:03:26. > :03:31.Minister said it was a significant development although he is urging
:03:32. > :03:36.caution. We have had a number of very credible leads. There is
:03:37. > :03:41.increasing hope, no more than hope. No more than hope that we might be
:03:42. > :03:47.on the road to discovering what did happen to this ill-fated aircraft.
:03:48. > :03:52.This is the fourth day in the exhaustive search of the wild and
:03:53. > :03:56.unpredictable seas of the southern Indian Ocean. Chinese and Japanese
:03:57. > :04:00.planes are joining the surveillance mission, based in Perth. A crucial
:04:01. > :04:04.part of the growing international effort is the view from space and
:04:05. > :04:09.the satellites which have provided the images which could help to solve
:04:10. > :04:14.this battling and distressing case. More international help is on its
:04:15. > :04:19.way. Several Chinese ships are steaming towards the icy waters of
:04:20. > :04:26.the southern Indian Ocean. The hunt for the missing Malaysian airline
:04:27. > :04:29.enters a third week. Here, a teenage girl has been shot dead in Hackney
:04:30. > :04:33.in East London. The Metropolitan Police believe the girl was 15 years
:04:34. > :04:36.old. Three young men have been arrested. The Foreign Secretary,
:04:37. > :04:39.William Hague, says lasting restrictions on arms sales and
:04:40. > :04:44.military co-operation with Russia should now be considered. Mr Hague's
:04:45. > :04:47.comments come after Russia tightened its grip on Crimea by storming
:04:48. > :04:52.military bases, where Ukrainian soldiers have been holed up for
:04:53. > :04:55.nearly a month. There's a warning that GP services are under severe
:04:56. > :04:59.threat of extinction because of increasing demand for care and
:05:00. > :05:02.dwindling budgets. The president of the Royal College of GPs, Dr Maureen
:05:03. > :05:05.Baker, says general practice is imploding faster than people realise
:05:06. > :05:09.and she has urged governments in London, Cardiff, Edinburgh and
:05:10. > :05:12.Belfast to improve funding. A spokesman for the Department of
:05:13. > :05:17.Health in England says action is being taken to encourage more people
:05:18. > :05:20.to train as family doctors. Nearly 90% of people who have bought a
:05:21. > :05:24.house through the Government's Help To Buy scheme since it launched last
:05:25. > :05:27.year are first time buyers. More than 17,000 homes have been
:05:28. > :05:33.purchased, mostly outside the property hotspots of London and the
:05:34. > :05:36.South East. The scheme lends buyers their deposit or provides a mortgage
:05:37. > :05:40.guarantee, with the aim of getting people onto the property ladder. But
:05:41. > :05:45.Labour says it's creating a housing bubble by driving up prices. That's
:05:46. > :05:53.all from me for now. I'll be back with the headlines just before 10am.
:05:54. > :06:01.Back to you, Andrew. Thank you, Naga. Now to the papers. The Sunday
:06:02. > :06:05.Times has a big poll showing the Tories are neck and neck with
:06:06. > :06:12.Labour. The knives come out for Ed Miliband. Also pictures of the
:06:13. > :06:15.Russians bursting into the airbase. Too many of us are going to the
:06:16. > :06:20.doctor and the doctor is getting too tired and it is all going down the
:06:21. > :06:24.pan. The Sunday Telegraph has a very interesting story, saying that
:06:25. > :06:30.Islamic law will be adopted in British legal circles. That is from
:06:31. > :06:38.the Law Society and this is about Islamic or sharia pensions, well,
:06:39. > :06:43.not pensions. Anyway, it means it is bad for women. In Scotland, there is
:06:44. > :06:48.a poll showing the yes campaign jumping ahead again. The Scottish
:06:49. > :07:05.National Minister is backing a vote to axe the Queen. Not literally, I
:07:06. > :07:08.hasten to add. I turn now to Amanda and Martin Sixsmith, author of the
:07:09. > :07:11.book that the extremely successful film Philomena was based on, and a
:07:12. > :07:14.Russian expert, having been the BBC's man in Moscow for many years.
:07:15. > :07:20.Crimea, clearly, is the story in the news. I am very pleased to see our
:07:21. > :07:25.former ambassador writing in the Independent this morning and putting
:07:26. > :07:29.a slightly, a bit of a state, on some of the overheated rhetoric we
:07:30. > :07:33.have been getting from the West. He does point out that, of course, what
:07:34. > :07:37.Russia has done is wrong in Crimea but he does also point out that a
:07:38. > :07:44.lot of what Vladimir Putin is saying is correct. Crimea is historically,
:07:45. > :07:48.linguistically and culturally, a part of Russia. It was only given to
:07:49. > :07:54.Ukraine almost by mistake and the vast majority of people do want to
:07:55. > :07:59.be part of Russia. Does Crimea feel rushing to you? It does. I have been
:08:00. > :08:04.there a few times and it is hard to find Ukrainian speakers there. If
:08:05. > :08:09.there is a minority which has a beef, it is almost more than the
:08:10. > :08:14.Ukrainians dashed the Crimean Tartars who were expelled by Stalin
:08:15. > :08:19.and have come back. The vast majority would decry the results of
:08:20. > :08:24.this referendum that was held last weekend. A lot of people voted,
:08:25. > :08:31.didn't they? There is an overwhelming majority that do want
:08:32. > :08:34.to be part of Russia. They are getting something like 79% approval.
:08:35. > :08:40.David Cameron would bite his arm off to get that. William Hague has
:08:41. > :08:44.written a piece today. It is that kind of rhetoric. Unprecedented
:08:45. > :08:49.sanctions on Russia this week are going to be announced. An outrageous
:08:50. > :08:55.land grab. As far as people like me can see, all they seem to have done
:08:56. > :09:00.is put a shopping ban on the whys of Putin 's oligarch friends, so they
:09:01. > :09:10.cannot buy handbags in Oxford Street. I do not know if there is a
:09:11. > :09:14.hidden agenda. A lot of people fear it is the beginning of a grand plan
:09:15. > :09:26.and the Russians will take over Moldova, East Ukraine, etc. There is
:09:27. > :09:31.no desire in this country to see our troops boots on foreign grounds
:09:32. > :09:39.fighting wars. Absolutely none. All the polls show that. They would be
:09:40. > :09:47.idiotic to get involved. The collapse of the Soviet Union has
:09:48. > :09:51.left all these problems. The eastern part of Ukraine is, like Crimea,
:09:52. > :09:58.full of Russians and looking towards Moscow. Let's turn to the other huge
:09:59. > :10:02.story of the day which remains mysterious, despite Tony Abbott
:10:03. > :10:09.telling us we are getting information at last from the Indian
:10:10. > :10:13.Ocean. He has been guarded and I think he loves being on
:10:14. > :10:17.international television. There is a piece in the Sunday Times, it
:10:18. > :10:22.basically says, everyday there is a new line. In this one, they say they
:10:23. > :10:27.have seized the bank accounts of all of the crew of the plane, to see if
:10:28. > :10:33.any of them are in financial problems. We have 25 aircraft, 22
:10:34. > :10:37.ships, six helicopters, and all they have been able to find our a couple
:10:38. > :10:46.of bits of something, which could be anything. Absolutely astounding. We
:10:47. > :10:50.are a bit in danger of turning this into an adventure story. We are
:10:51. > :10:59.forgetting there are 239 people on board. What strikes me is the fact
:11:00. > :11:06.that a plane can simply disappear. You could do that in Victorian times
:11:07. > :11:10.but it struck me strange that you can still do that in the
:11:11. > :11:13.21st-century. They can find out your and my number plate from almost
:11:14. > :11:18.anywhere in the world but we cannot seem to find this huge plane. There
:11:19. > :11:22.is another good tip in the Mail on Sunday. They are leading on a
:11:23. > :11:31.mystery phone call from a woman to the pilot. It was used obtaining a
:11:32. > :11:45.mobile phone under a false identity. You can get hacking into everything,
:11:46. > :11:52.can't you? Everyone was taken aback by George Osborne 's budget. There
:11:53. > :11:56.has been knighted, especially from the Labour Party, that there is a
:11:57. > :12:01.deserving poor who are being treated really badly. That is the despicable
:12:02. > :12:06.witch who we all want to be horrible to. Then there is the forgotten
:12:07. > :12:11.middle classes. You tell me they are not decent and hard-working. This is
:12:12. > :12:16.a budget for them. Very attentive viewers will notice you have a
:12:17. > :12:23.Conservative instinct. You have not in the past been hugely enthusiastic
:12:24. > :12:28.about George Osborne. I have been very critical of him. I thought he
:12:29. > :12:38.was completely out of his depth at the beginning and has said so on
:12:39. > :12:43.many occasions. It was an incredibly clever and considered budget. What
:12:44. > :12:53.is his reward? His reward are the polls. In the Mail on Sunday,
:12:54. > :12:57.Cameron is on 42 and Ed Miliband is on 38. Referring to your Lamborghini
:12:58. > :13:04.question earlier, they actually asked this and said, Ed Balls
:13:05. > :13:13.suggested people would miss use it and ran at a pension funds? 50% back
:13:14. > :13:16.the Lamborghini. A British made car would be fine. It was a little
:13:17. > :13:19.guarded but it shows that people want to be trusted with their own
:13:20. > :13:23.money and the Conservatives are saying they believe they can spend
:13:24. > :13:30.their own money better than the state can. I like the poster after
:13:31. > :13:33.the budget highlighting it is cheaper to drink beer and to play
:13:34. > :13:42.bingo. I was at the launch of the well-being report where Cameron is
:13:43. > :13:45.factoring happiness in manufacturing policies. Actually this was still be
:13:46. > :13:49.done because gambling together is much better than gambling on the
:13:50. > :13:54.internet or gambling with a slot machine. You have chosen another big
:13:55. > :13:58.poll. I mentioned it at the beginning. In the Scotland on
:13:59. > :14:06.Sunday, it says after a fusillade of Unionist arguments, the yes vote is
:14:07. > :14:09.growing. This is interesting in the context of Crimea. We will have a
:14:10. > :14:15.referendum on national self-determination. In Scotland it
:14:16. > :14:19.is being done in a more considered and aboveboard way. The figures here
:14:20. > :14:25.are moving very much towards a very tight race. We have assumed the yes
:14:26. > :14:31.campaign was going to lose out in a big way. The latest poll shows it is
:14:32. > :14:37.neck and neck. Is there an explanation? In Scotland, you either
:14:38. > :14:41.vote with your heart or your head. The vehemence of the no campaign,
:14:42. > :14:45.with big industry and people from London saying you should vote
:14:46. > :14:48.against independence, as had that emotional effect. If they are
:14:49. > :14:58.telling us what to do, we will not do it. I am sure that is true. It is
:14:59. > :15:02.like the little guy being beaten up. All the languages so emotional and
:15:03. > :15:05.so playing into any psyche of a smaller country. I'm Todd when Putin
:15:06. > :15:11.was phoning Cameron about the Crimea, is that a lot of time
:15:12. > :15:16.saying, it is just like Scotland, it is just like Scotland. Cameron
:15:17. > :15:20.said, no, it is not. In the old days, when Russia was taken to task
:15:21. > :15:25.by the West or Britain, Northern Ireland was the case that was always
:15:26. > :15:30.pointed out. There are parallels, two nations with common, historical,
:15:31. > :15:35.cultural and linguistic roots upping up against each other. Sign up or
:15:36. > :15:38.the political process was longer than about ten days. -- the
:15:39. > :15:55.political process. Thrown across like a sack of
:15:56. > :16:05.potatoes, it has been said. The internal borders didn't really
:16:06. > :16:10.matter. I think this story is very concerning, in the Sunday Telegraph
:16:11. > :16:18.about Islamic laws. It will be enshrined in the British legal
:16:19. > :16:23.system for the first time. Is it like inheritance tax? It is making
:16:24. > :16:28.wills, and what it means in this very traditional part of the
:16:29. > :16:33.religion, basically if you are child born out of wedlock you don't count,
:16:34. > :16:38.if you are an adopted child you don't count. If you want to write
:16:39. > :16:43.your wife out of your will, you can't. That goes against all British
:16:44. > :16:49.law, you just cannot do that. A lot of people want to write their other
:16:50. > :16:53.half out, their last final act of revenge! That would be terrible but
:16:54. > :17:00.I am slightly bemused because I thought when you were making a will
:17:01. > :17:05.under any form of law, you can choose who you leave your assets to.
:17:06. > :17:09.You obviously haven't made a world recently, I have and it is very
:17:10. > :17:14.difficult not to give it to your existing spouse. We will have to see
:17:15. > :17:21.what happens but it is a good story anyway. Martin, there is a Vatican
:17:22. > :17:28.story. It is about the Pope appointing a commission on abuse,
:17:29. > :17:32.and it is significant because I think it is a move under the new
:17:33. > :17:38.Pope towards recognising some things that went wrong in the past. It has
:17:39. > :17:42.been a sort of Stonewall up until now and it is interesting to see an
:17:43. > :17:47.Irish abuse victim has been appointed, which is interesting to
:17:48. > :17:55.me because I am writing a documentary. And you wrote the books
:17:56. > :18:02.behind the film Philomena. Yes, and Philomena went to Rome, shocked the
:18:03. > :18:09.Pope's hand. Interestingly the DVD is out tomorrow so he could get a
:18:10. > :18:16.copy of it. Was there an apology? No, but the fact it is being looked
:18:17. > :18:24.at is interesting. The film is about many other Philomenas, and many of
:18:25. > :18:29.the stories have been horrific involving physical and sexual abuse
:18:30. > :18:35.and I am relieved to see Pope Francis taking this forward. Who
:18:36. > :18:48.does seem to be a genuine reform. We will have to see if he walks the
:18:49. > :18:54.walk. This Jim Docherty story about sound bites. That was yours. Sound
:18:55. > :18:59.bites in political interviews are getting shorter and shorter, and the
:19:00. > :19:03.other day I watched an interview with Mick Jagger in the 1960s and I
:19:04. > :19:11.thought it was tremendously could have that length of debate. Now we
:19:12. > :19:17.get 32nd sound bites. Including on paper reviews, we are running out of
:19:18. > :19:22.time. Amanda. This is a heart-warming story about a couple
:19:23. > :19:28.who met at a bus stop, they didn't know each other, they got chatting,
:19:29. > :19:35.missed their boss, went and had fish and chips and got married. The moral
:19:36. > :19:42.is, if you are single like me, catch the bus more often. On that cheerful
:19:43. > :19:45.note, thank you very much indeed. Onto the weather. Cold overnight,
:19:46. > :19:49.but I think the most beautiful morning today we've had on a Sunday
:19:50. > :19:53.all year so far. So what is next? Nick Miller is here to give us good
:19:54. > :19:57.news, and bad. If you are glass half full kind of person, you will see
:19:58. > :20:03.the sunshine, if you are glass half empty, you will see the rain. There
:20:04. > :20:08.will be some heavy downpours, may be some heavy downpours, maybe the
:20:09. > :20:12.rumble of thunder. The showers will become mostly confined to eastern
:20:13. > :20:16.parts of England and the Midlands, where of that there will be fewer
:20:17. > :20:28.showers in the afternoon and blue sky. The showers in Scotland will
:20:29. > :20:31.begin to ease, but by this stage it will be mainly dry, Manchester and
:20:32. > :20:39.Cardiff as well, and the south-west of England. We will still be dodging
:20:40. > :20:44.the showers to the east and south-east of England, as we will
:20:45. > :20:48.for a time through the course of the night. The winds will ease across
:20:49. > :20:53.the UK, clear skies are a recipe for a cold night as well, with a
:20:54. > :21:00.widespread frost going into Monday morning. During Monday, rain comes
:21:01. > :21:04.into western parts of the UK and we will hold onto some hazy sunshine
:21:05. > :21:08.further east. There is a chilly easterly wind developing so those
:21:09. > :21:16.wanting spring warmth will have to wait a little bit longer yet.
:21:17. > :21:21.With just over a year until the General Election, today's poll
:21:22. > :21:24.results don't make good reading for Labour. The Tories are now
:21:25. > :21:27.comfortably ahead of the Labour Party on economic competence.
:21:28. > :21:30.Confidence in the economy is now returning, and two polls in this
:21:31. > :21:33.morning's papers indicate that the Budget has given the Tories a
:21:34. > :21:36.significant boost. So, how will Labour fight back? With me is the
:21:37. > :21:40.Shadow Business Secretary, Chuka Umunna. These are pretty terrible
:21:41. > :21:46.polls for you and they reflect what seems to be a hesitance on the
:21:47. > :21:53.Labour response to the Budget. It looked like you didn't know what you
:21:54. > :21:57.wanted to say about the Budget. I couldn't disappear more, the polls
:21:58. > :22:01.fluctuate and if we obsessed with them we wouldn't be doing our jobs
:22:02. > :22:07.properly. What matters is how people vote and we have seen under this
:22:08. > :22:14.leadership the Labour Party put on over 1000 councillors. We have put
:22:15. > :22:19.on tens of thousands of new members since May 2010, and let's not forget
:22:20. > :22:25.what people were saying in 2010, they were writing the party off.
:22:26. > :22:29.They said we were going to have many more terms in opposition, now people
:22:30. > :22:35.are talking seriously about us winning in the general election. Are
:22:36. > :22:41.you feeling relaxed about this morning's polls? We are interested
:22:42. > :22:45.in the issues that matter to people. There was a huge amount of
:22:46. > :22:55.speculation there was going to be a rabbit pulled out of the hat in the
:22:56. > :22:57.Budget, there was no rabbit. There was nothing here about how the
:22:58. > :23:07.Government was going to help people and child care , nothing on how they
:23:08. > :23:13.will relieve the squeeze on energy prices. The big news was the freedom
:23:14. > :23:17.to use pensions how you wanted in a lump sum. Initially the Labour Party
:23:18. > :23:23.didn't have anything to say on that but now you are in favour, is that
:23:24. > :23:28.correct? The principle of giving people more control over their
:23:29. > :23:33.pension pot is something we support. We are still looking at the detail,
:23:34. > :23:40.and we have three tests we apply. It has to pass the fairness test, does
:23:41. > :23:44.it provide a range of products for lower and middle income earners that
:23:45. > :23:49.gives them certainty in retirement? The advice test, will they have
:23:50. > :23:55.access to high quality financial advice when they are making these
:23:56. > :24:01.decisions? And cost test, can we be sure this won't lead to more cost
:24:02. > :24:06.for the taxpayer in the long term? If I asked Danny Alexander these
:24:07. > :24:11.questions and he says yes, you will vote for this? We need to see the
:24:12. > :24:20.Bill and I am not going to sign a blank piece of paper on your show.
:24:21. > :24:27.That might be fun! We will see what Danny Alexander says. They have been
:24:28. > :24:31.trying to frame themselves as the workers' party but there was very
:24:32. > :24:43.little about work. We have more than 900,000 young people out of work. We
:24:44. > :24:50.have a bigger issue... How many firms have signed up to your policy
:24:51. > :24:54.on that? We are not in government yet, but there is a bigger issue
:24:55. > :24:59.here as well because any job is better than no job. We are clear on
:25:00. > :25:05.our ambition, we want people to have good, secure, meaningful work that
:25:06. > :25:10.pays a wage you can live off. There was nothing in the Budget how they
:25:11. > :25:15.will incentivise firms to pay a living wage. One in five people in
:25:16. > :25:48.this country is in a low-wage, low skill jobs. We want people to have
:25:49. > :25:50.secure work which is more high skilled and pays a wage people can
:25:51. > :25:53.live off. Do you think you are not trusted on the economy, or trusted
:25:54. > :25:55.less than the Conservatives? What has happened? As I said, you can
:25:56. > :25:58.obsessed about the polls. I have seen the headline on the front of a
:25:59. > :26:00.Conservative supporting paper, that is well and good. We have important
:26:01. > :26:03.local elections this May, that is what matters. People will pass
:26:04. > :26:06.judgement then and all I know is that when I talk to people in my own
:26:07. > :26:08.constituency about the fact that we have young people long-term
:26:09. > :26:11.unemployed at a higher rate than at the last general election, they want
:26:12. > :26:14.to know what we are going to do about it and they talk to me about
:26:15. > :26:17.the quality of work they are doing. This is a great country and we have
:26:18. > :26:21.huge potential but we have got to unleash the talent of everybody. We
:26:22. > :26:29.have to make sure there is more vocational training. You are the
:26:30. > :26:32.shadow business secretary, your chances of becoming Business
:26:33. > :26:37.Secretary depend partly on business coming round to Labour, at least a
:26:38. > :26:42.bit. Business love the Budget and they are very critical of the Labour
:26:43. > :26:46.Party, these new kinds of regulation. Is there anything new
:26:47. > :26:52.you can offer the business community to win them round to the idea of
:26:53. > :26:57.supporting the Labour Party again? I don't accept that. We have been
:26:58. > :27:05.drawing up lots of our policies with business people. We have a phalanx
:27:06. > :27:14.of business supporters, one example is Charles Allen, you will excuse me
:27:15. > :27:19.for mentioning someone connected to the ITV! In terms of business
:27:20. > :27:22.support, we want to get the support of businesses of all different
:27:23. > :27:28.shapes and sizes in different parts of the country. You are going to tax
:27:29. > :27:34.them or individually and as businesses, you will regulate them
:27:35. > :27:40.more... The biggest uncertainty on the horizon for businesses is the
:27:41. > :27:44.prospect of the UK exit from the EU. When Ed Miliband set out our
:27:45. > :27:49.very clear priority to ensure we prioritise getting Europe to work
:27:50. > :27:53.for better growth in our country, and he was very clear that we see
:27:54. > :27:57.our future at the heart of the European Union, which is the best
:27:58. > :28:01.way to get access to our biggest, nearest export market and the key
:28:02. > :28:10.that unlocks the door to emerging markets, us staying is the priority
:28:11. > :28:17.for many businesses and they support that. Would you like the Labour
:28:18. > :28:22.Party to be seen as the pro-European party? I think we are, because only
:28:23. > :28:27.the Labour Party can secure a sensible course forward on that. Ed
:28:28. > :28:33.Miliband's announcement was welcomed by the CBI, and many other business
:28:34. > :28:47.organisations. I'm not surprised because it is creating more
:28:48. > :28:51.certainty for the economy. Thank you.
:28:52. > :28:54.Last night, Russian troops in Crimea burst into two military bases where
:28:55. > :28:57.Ukrainian troops were holed up, and forcibly evicted them. Although the
:28:58. > :29:00.European Union and most other countries regard the Russian
:29:01. > :29:03.decision to annex Crimea as illegal, on the ground it's happened. And the
:29:04. > :29:06.fact that there are pockets of eastern Ukraine where the majority
:29:07. > :29:09.of the population speak Russian, and would apparently prefer to be
:29:10. > :29:12.governed from Moscow than from Kiev, makes many fear that further Russian
:29:13. > :29:15.intervention lies ahead. I've been talking to Russia's ambassador to
:29:16. > :29:18.the EU, Vladimir Chizhov. One big question - are those fears
:29:19. > :29:27.justified? That is not Russia's intention. Our wish is to see the
:29:28. > :29:33.brotherly country of Ukraine overcome this obstacle crisis and
:29:34. > :29:40.constitutional crisis, perhaps through federalisation of a way out
:29:41. > :29:50.to encompass the feelings of people living in various parts of the
:29:51. > :29:55.country. We do not have any, I would say, expansionist views. If Russian
:29:56. > :30:00.speakers in eastern Ukraine protest and say they are being oppressed,
:30:01. > :30:06.and the government in Kiev says we will not have federalisation, what
:30:07. > :30:12.happens then? Rusher will support those people with diplomatic and
:30:13. > :30:21.political means. Only those? You have troops on the border at the
:30:22. > :30:27.moment. We have troops in various places. Senator McCain has said
:30:28. > :30:38.Moldova will be next, watch for Moldova, and what about Latvia?
:30:39. > :30:47.Should I tell Senator McCain to watch over Alaska? They have Alaska
:30:48. > :30:55.already. Well, it used to be ration. I am joking, of course. Seriously,
:30:56. > :31:02.Moldova, Latvia, have been nothing to fear at all? Nobody has anything
:31:03. > :31:08.to fear from Russia. What about the measures that have been agreed in
:31:09. > :31:11.the EU? Are you concerned about measures against individual rations?
:31:12. > :31:20.Will this cause consternation in Moscow? -- rations. I believe these
:31:21. > :31:28.measures are irrational, to be politically correct. Of course, they
:31:29. > :31:35.are politically motivated. There is more to come. There will be further
:31:36. > :31:39.economic measures as well. We are not afraid. You have a lot of
:31:40. > :31:47.dependence on selling gas to the European Union countries,
:31:48. > :31:53.particularly Germany and Italy. That could be very serious for Russia,
:31:54. > :31:58.couldn't it? It would be equally serious for those countries. We are
:31:59. > :32:09.living in a 21st-century globalised economy. I think today, everybody is
:32:10. > :32:13.everybody 's partner in this global world of ours. Could you give me a
:32:14. > :32:17.very straightforward commitment that there will be no incursions of
:32:18. > :32:24.Russian troops onto Ukrainian territory outside the Crimea? There
:32:25. > :32:32.is no intention of the Russian Federation to do anything like that.
:32:33. > :32:37.That is not quite a commitment. I am not the commander in chief. You are
:32:38. > :32:42.not but you do speak from the Russian government. There is no
:32:43. > :32:49.intention but you cannot completely rule it out? The situation in
:32:50. > :32:52.Ukraine is, of course, a source of concern to everybody, including
:32:53. > :33:01.Russia. We would certainly hope to see it settled by peaceful means,
:33:02. > :33:07.taking into account the legitimate interests of all the people living
:33:08. > :33:15.in Ukraine. All the ethnic groups, all the regions of Ukraine. And we
:33:16. > :33:20.are ready to help. There are a lot of Ukrainian troops and other forces
:33:21. > :33:25.in bases in the Crimea. Some people in Kiev regard them as hostages.
:33:26. > :33:30.What will happen to them? They have three options, either to join the
:33:31. > :33:34.Russian army, or to demobilise and stay in Ukraine as private
:33:35. > :33:40.individuals. Or move to Ukraine and stay in Crimea as private
:33:41. > :33:44.individuals, or remain in the Ukrainian army. For the latter
:33:45. > :33:50.option, the Russian Minister of defence has given strict
:33:51. > :33:58.instructions to ensure that they leave in order that they are
:33:59. > :34:01.provided with transportation and their uniforms and insignia of fully
:34:02. > :34:08.respected. So, they are not hostages. As for Crimea, is there
:34:09. > :34:11.any chance whatsoever of Crimea not being part of Russia ball of the
:34:12. > :34:20.conceivable future or having a further referendum on independence
:34:21. > :34:25.or something like that? -- for the foreseeable future. It is an
:34:26. > :34:32.expression of the overwhelming will of people living in Crimea. It was a
:34:33. > :34:38.process of reunification with Russia, actually. Listening to that
:34:39. > :34:40.interview with the Russian ambassador was the former
:34:41. > :34:44.Presidential candidate, John McCain. He thinks the man who beat him to
:34:45. > :34:50.the White House has been insufficiently robust, and he wasn't
:34:51. > :34:55.impressed by Ambassador Chizhov. It was very pleasant to take a trip
:34:56. > :34:59.down memory lane with the Russian ambassador and the Cold War rhetoric
:35:00. > :35:04.and lies and distortions that characterised them at that time.
:35:05. > :35:10.There were at least 20 things he said in that brief interview that
:35:11. > :35:13.were absolutely false. In military assistance -- a military assistance
:35:14. > :35:18.programme which we have is to help countries provide for self defence,
:35:19. > :35:25.I think it is not only appropriate but very badly needed, as you
:35:26. > :35:29.reported there are Russian troops massed on the border of Ukraine.
:35:30. > :35:35.Blood amid Putin is making a decision as to whether to go in or
:35:36. > :35:41.not. -- Vladimir Putin. If it is cost free, I think he is more likely
:35:42. > :35:46.to intervene and so I see nothing wrong with providing both lethal and
:35:47. > :35:51.non-lethal assistance to the Government of Ukraine, which has
:35:52. > :35:57.just had its nation invaded and dismembered. Would you include the
:35:58. > :36:01.promise that the Russians do not intend to go into Moldova, other
:36:02. > :36:09.parts of the Ukraine, Latvia, other parts of the Baltics and so forth as
:36:10. > :36:12.lies? We are already seeing agitations and statements made by
:36:13. > :36:16.the Russian government and spokespersons about the need to
:36:17. > :36:26.protect Russian speaking populations. I believe it was the
:36:27. > :36:31.Polish Foreign Minister who said, nothing that they say can be taken
:36:32. > :36:37.with any value whatsoever. You talk almost as if you see this as
:36:38. > :36:41.parallel to the events of the late 1930s with referendums and constant
:36:42. > :36:48.territorial aggrandisement, in that case, of course, by Germany. I see a
:36:49. > :36:51.lot of parallels but I do not foresee a cataclysmic war. The
:36:52. > :36:57.fundamental problem with our relations with Vladimir Putin is we
:36:58. > :37:00.failed to appreciate he is a KGB criminal, who said the greatest
:37:01. > :37:05.disaster of the 20th century was the break-up of the soviet union and he
:37:06. > :37:10.wants to restore that Russian Empire. That is why I worry about
:37:11. > :37:14.Moldova particularly. It is not a member of NATO and I worry about the
:37:15. > :37:19.pressure on the Baltics which is already beginning. I think he is
:37:20. > :37:22.calculating how much he can get away with, just as Adolf Hitler
:37:23. > :37:31.calculated how much he could get away with back in 1930s. And yet
:37:32. > :37:33.have seen more or less everything peaceful that can be done from the
:37:34. > :37:37.EU and the American government. You have been very critical of President
:37:38. > :37:43.Obama that we have seen lists of people put on blacklist in terms of
:37:44. > :37:49.financial support. We have seen a hostility and the revision of all
:37:50. > :37:55.sorts of trade agreements. What could be done realistically? I am
:37:56. > :37:58.not sure how much will be done, particularly given the dependence of
:37:59. > :38:04.Europeans on Russian energy. There will be a lot of hot air and very
:38:05. > :38:08.little action, when you look in comparison with what the Russians
:38:09. > :38:14.did in invading another sovereign nation. I would resume immediately
:38:15. > :38:19.the missile defence system in Poland and Czechoslovakia. I would have
:38:20. > :38:25.military exercises with our Baltic friends. I would send a small
:38:26. > :38:31.delegation of our military to Kiev to talk about ways we can help them
:38:32. > :38:36.rebuild their defences, particularly a defensive. I would, of course,
:38:37. > :38:45.increase those sanctions. The Russians, basically, ridiculed what
:38:46. > :38:50.we have done and I do not believe it is very impactful. It has impacted
:38:51. > :38:56.on the stock market and the value of the rouble. I think, when you look
:38:57. > :39:02.at the situation from the point of view of Vladimir Putin, it is a win
:39:03. > :39:09.-win. I believe now Crimea is, at least in itself a captive nations. I
:39:10. > :39:16.think that Moldova is under threat and I think as well as the Baltics,
:39:17. > :39:20.Mr Putin is not like us. That is what we have to understand and it
:39:21. > :39:29.does not mean Americans troops on the ground but it does mean a stead
:39:30. > :39:36.fast and strong United front was epitomised by a phrase, peace
:39:37. > :39:42.through strength. Do you think the West is being led by appeasers? I
:39:43. > :39:48.would not use that word. I think it has been led by people, maybe not
:39:49. > :39:52.necessarily now in the case of the British Prime Minister and the
:39:53. > :39:59.Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, but by certainly
:40:00. > :40:04.President Obama that wants to push the reset button. We overheard a
:40:05. > :40:08.conversation to Vladimir Putin, I will be more flexible. It was a
:40:09. > :40:15.total misreading of the nature of blood amid Putin, his ambitions, and
:40:16. > :40:21.what he was willing to do. -- Vladimir Putin. It is time for a
:40:22. > :40:26.total re-evaluation. Do you think we will see Russian troops moving into
:40:27. > :40:32.eastern Ukraine? I think he is making calculations right now. It is
:40:33. > :40:36.not an accident, not just any military exercise, his troops are
:40:37. > :40:41.massed on the border of southern and eastern Ukraine. It is a fact on the
:40:42. > :40:47.ground. He is making his calculations and I cannot predict
:40:48. > :40:50.this one. There is a lot of talk about asset seizures, particularly
:40:51. > :40:59.from the Russian oligarchs and tycoons with people like Roman
:41:00. > :41:02.Abramowitz. Do you think that is unnecessarily part of the response?
:41:03. > :41:06.I think it needs to be economic and diplomatic. It is about helping
:41:07. > :41:12.these countries to defend themselves. We need to convince
:41:13. > :41:19.Vladimir Putin that the price of further aggression is not worth the
:41:20. > :41:26.penalties he will pay. 11 people one day sanctions and then a few more
:41:27. > :41:34.and a lot of talk, a lot of talk but very little action. I do not think
:41:35. > :41:41.he has been very persuasive to Mr Putin. You have been blacklisted by
:41:42. > :41:52.Mr Putin and you cannot travel to Russia. I had to cancel spring break
:41:53. > :42:02.in Siberia. A lovely place! Gregory Porter has not -- has got quite a
:42:03. > :42:10.following. He performed at the Cheltenham Jazz Festival in May, the
:42:11. > :42:13.Love Supreme Festival in July, and a batch of other dates in between.
:42:14. > :42:16.Raised in California by his Baptist Minister mother, he's been writing
:42:17. > :42:20.songs and performing for 20 years but only released his first record a
:42:21. > :42:23.couple of years ago. And, if you can become an overnight success after 20
:42:24. > :42:31.years of trying, that's what's just happened. Welcome. You were actually
:42:32. > :42:37.38 when you broke through. That was correct. It was a long time coming.
:42:38. > :42:40.I probably had some living and some development to do personally in
:42:41. > :42:45.order to write the songs I do and think the way I do. You were brought
:42:46. > :42:52.up by your late mother, who was a Baptist Minister. Very much so. She
:42:53. > :42:54.comes up into my thinking and writing all the time for that even
:42:55. > :43:12.if I am writing a love song. Even without consciously thinking of
:43:13. > :43:19.it, she comes into my mind. I have to ask you about one thing, the hat.
:43:20. > :43:24.It is unique. It is even sticking in your mind already. If I can get in
:43:25. > :43:29.with the hat and begin with the music... I have a whole wicked plan.
:43:30. > :43:34.You can do that later on. I cannot wait to hear you live. Thank you for
:43:35. > :43:38.coming onto the show. The Budget was generally welcomed by the press and,
:43:39. > :43:42.it seems, in the opinion polls as well. But there are creeping doubts
:43:43. > :43:45.on two big areas - first, is it all affordable and do the sums add up?
:43:46. > :43:49.And second, are the radical new freedoms being given to pensioners
:43:50. > :43:52.wise and do they help people at the bottom of the heap as well as at the
:43:53. > :43:56.top? Danny Alexander, Chief Secretary to the Treasury, is George
:43:57. > :44:00.Osborne's number two. And he is with me now. Thank you for coming in. On
:44:01. > :44:03.the first point, the IFF was quite critical, perhaps surprisingly so,
:44:04. > :44:07.given the immediate reaction to the budget. They say you on making
:44:08. > :44:13.permanent, long-term tax giveaways on the threshold and so on which
:44:14. > :44:17.cost nearly ?2 billion. And there is no permanent, long-term way of
:44:18. > :44:23.paying for those blonde deeper cuts which are not specified. That is a
:44:24. > :44:26.fair criticism, isn't it? I have been clear and George Osborne has
:44:27. > :44:30.been clear that dealing with the deficit will take longer and there
:44:31. > :44:34.will need to be more savings in the next Parliament. We took some
:44:35. > :44:40.difficult decisions in this budget. We raised more money, for example,
:44:41. > :44:44.clamping down on tax avoidance. In relation to public service pensions,
:44:45. > :44:46.we said department should bear the cost of paying a public service
:44:47. > :44:53.pensions rather than it falling at the next cost of the tax payer. What
:44:54. > :44:57.it does is it stops the general taxpayer having to make up the cost
:44:58. > :45:01.of public service pensions that employers should be bearing for
:45:02. > :45:04.themselves. It is a difficult decision. There is more deficit
:45:05. > :45:07.reduction to be done in the next Parliament. As a Liberal Democrat, I
:45:08. > :45:12.am committed to making sure we deal with the structural deficit on the
:45:13. > :45:15.timetable which has been set out. Where I disagree with the
:45:16. > :45:20.Conservatives, I think tax measures should play a part in that. The
:45:21. > :45:26.wealthiest must make a contribution as well as public sector. With the
:45:27. > :45:32.mansion tax, is that the red line for the Liberal Democrats next time
:45:33. > :45:36.around? George Osborne has made it clear his absolute opposition. One
:45:37. > :45:39.of the big things that will be a big priority for the Liberal Democrats
:45:40. > :45:44.is a fairer tax system, delivering further tax cuts for working people.
:45:45. > :45:48.A big Liberal Democrat 's signature tune in this year 's it was lifting
:45:49. > :45:52.the personal allowance of ?10,500 but also asking the wealthiest to
:45:53. > :45:59.make an additional contribution to make sure the remaining phase of
:46:00. > :46:01.dealing with the problems we inherited from the Labour Party is
:46:02. > :46:05.done fairly. Part of our plan for that is a modest, additional levy on
:46:06. > :46:15.high-value properties. That is a red line then? It is a key priority.
:46:16. > :46:35.The ginger line may be! We delivered four of those policies through the
:46:36. > :46:39.Coalition. We will deal with financial problems, not go back to
:46:40. > :46:44.the old mistakes of the past on the economy, cutting taxes for working
:46:45. > :46:54.people is a key Liberal Democrat priority. What about the higher rate
:46:55. > :47:04.of tax being cut down to 40p, is that something the Liberal Democrats
:47:05. > :47:08.support? I don't think so. I think at 45p we have the balance right,
:47:09. > :47:12.somewhere in the middle of the pack, so that we are making sure
:47:13. > :47:15.this is not sending a bad signal about British competitiveness but we
:47:16. > :47:21.are sending strong signals that Great Britain is a great place to
:47:22. > :47:27.invest. To you wouldn't sit in government with a party committed to
:47:28. > :47:32.doing that, or if you were you would veto it? The issue is what role can
:47:33. > :47:44.the Liberal Democrats play in British politics? So would you feel
:47:45. > :47:52.to it? We would speak to whichever party has the best mandate, and we
:47:53. > :47:58.want to deliver Liberal Democrat priorities. People want to know what
:47:59. > :48:02.that means in practical terms. I think a Conservative government on
:48:03. > :48:06.its own would be bad for the economy because it would try to take Britain
:48:07. > :48:10.out of the European Union, and a Labour government by itself would
:48:11. > :48:14.wreck the strategy that has got the Government this far. I think you
:48:15. > :48:21.need to Liberal Democrats to keep the recovery on track for the next
:48:22. > :48:26.Parliament. You seem to regard the Labour Party at the moment as a more
:48:27. > :48:34.damaging prospect for Britain than the Conservatives? We have been
:48:35. > :48:40.disagreements with both. Equity still wants? Yes, we want a strong
:48:41. > :48:45.economy and a fair society. I don't think you can trust the Labour Party
:48:46. > :48:50.to deliver a strong economy, I don't think you can trust the Conservative
:48:51. > :48:56.party to deliver a fair society by themselves. It is not for me to
:48:57. > :49:00.choose, it is not about who you get on well with. If you personally had
:49:01. > :49:06.to choose between a fair society and a strong economy, which way would
:49:07. > :49:13.you go? You cannot have one without the other. The idea of having a fair
:49:14. > :49:17.society whilst flushing the economy down the toilet has been disproved
:49:18. > :49:21.during the Labour government. I think the Liberal Democrats are
:49:22. > :49:30.right to say you have got to want both. If this means anything, you
:49:31. > :49:35.have to have a clear line on the 40p tax rate, and you have not said you
:49:36. > :49:41.won't veto it. You might not like it but you would put up with it. I
:49:42. > :49:48.don't want to go below 45p in the top rate of tax. It is part of our
:49:49. > :49:53.priority around fair taxation, to say our focus in cutting taxes
:49:54. > :49:59.should be cutting taxes for working people, not wealthy people. If I
:50:00. > :50:05.moved north to your constituency to make Alex Salmond happy and vote for
:50:06. > :50:10.you, will I know that you will stop the 40p rate happening or not? You
:50:11. > :50:15.will know that the Liberal Democrat manifesto says we are not going to
:50:16. > :50:20.cut the top rate of tax below 45p. I am not getting into hypothetical
:50:21. > :50:24.scenarios, but I am saying that if you get the Liberal Democrats in
:50:25. > :50:29.government next time, you can be sure a fairer tax system will be
:50:30. > :50:33.central for our party. Your colleague Steve Webb caused a ripple
:50:34. > :50:43.when he said pensioners could go out and buy Lamborghinis with their
:50:44. > :50:47.pensions. That was a very wild use of language. The whole point of this
:50:48. > :50:50.is to say that we think pensioners who have saved responsibly
:50:51. > :50:55.throughout their entire lives should be free to use the money they have
:50:56. > :51:01.saved up for themselves. And splurge, and then come back to the
:51:02. > :51:05.state for more help. I don't think most pensioners would seek to use
:51:06. > :51:10.their money in that way, and what's more, because of one of the reforms
:51:11. > :51:17.that mean the basic state pension will be set above the basic level of
:51:18. > :51:20.means testing, that means that whether someone has their own
:51:21. > :51:25.additional pension or not, they will have a basic pension from 2016
:51:26. > :51:29.onwards that keeps them out of the means testing system. The worry you
:51:30. > :51:34.have is much less of a worry then it would have been if this had happened
:51:35. > :51:38.with the complicated mass of means testing Gordon Brown imposed. A lot
:51:39. > :51:43.of annuities were badly valued and people were resentful being forced
:51:44. > :51:50.to buy them, nonetheless this reform could destroy the annuity industry
:51:51. > :51:55.completely. Aren't you destroying the annuity system? I don't think
:51:56. > :51:59.so. A lot of people will still want to buy annuities, there is still a
:52:00. > :52:02.strong market there, but for some people different ways of using their
:52:03. > :52:07.money would be better for their own retirement. One of the problems we
:52:08. > :52:14.have seen is that the annuity market has become uncompetitive. I think
:52:15. > :52:19.this could help to make the annuity market more competitive. You say
:52:20. > :52:24.people are not going to splurge the money, but a lot of people will
:52:25. > :52:29.certainly go into the buy to let market, it is the obvious thing to
:52:30. > :52:33.do. I have been asking ministers if they are worried about a property
:52:34. > :52:38.bubble again and again, and they are saying it is fine, and now you are
:52:39. > :52:47.pouring petrol into a worrying part of the housing market. Aren't you
:52:48. > :52:51.worried about a housing bubble? My priority is getting more houses
:52:52. > :52:59.built. We have seen how successful the Help To Buy scheme has been, a
:53:00. > :53:04.real success for many people on low and middle incomes, enabling people
:53:05. > :53:09.to enter the housing market. 80% have been first-time buyers, and a
:53:10. > :53:12.lot of it has led to new homes being constructed. On the pension thing,
:53:13. > :53:18.the real challenge is for the Labour Party, they seem to be flip-flopping
:53:19. > :53:22.and they cannot decide whether they trust people... We have run out of
:53:23. > :53:27.time, thank you for now. Now over to Naga for the news headlines. One of
:53:28. > :53:35.America's leading politicians, John McCain, has urged the Government to
:53:36. > :53:45.send a military delegation to Ukraine. He accused President Putin
:53:46. > :53:48.of wanting to restore the Russian Empire and encouraged the west to
:53:49. > :53:51.freeze the assets of Russian oligarchs.
:53:52. > :53:54.The Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott says satellite images are
:53:55. > :53:56.giving increasing hope of discovering what happened to the
:53:57. > :53:59.Malaysian passenger jet which disappeared more than two weeks ago.
:54:00. > :54:03.Planes from China have joined the search in the southern Indian Ocean
:54:04. > :54:06.today. Aircraft on the scene have been investigating a possible
:54:07. > :54:10.sighting of debris in the water. That's all from me. The next news on
:54:11. > :54:14.BBC One is at one o'clock. Back to Andrew in a moment. First, a look at
:54:15. > :54:23.what's coming up immediately after this programme.
:54:24. > :54:28.We will be in Southampton at ten o'clock, asking should wealth be
:54:29. > :54:37.taxed more? Is it time to make reparations for slavery? And can
:54:38. > :54:44.kill must be healed by prayer? -- can illness be healed by prayer?
:54:45. > :54:49.Danny Alexander and Chukka Umunna are still here. There are some very
:54:50. > :54:55.worrying figures coming out on tuition fees, where originally you
:54:56. > :55:01.thought 20% wouldn't pay up and it is now nearly 45%. That is a really
:55:02. > :55:08.big problem for you, isn't it? These are based on projections of 35
:55:09. > :55:13.years' time so the figures move about a lot. I am pleased with the
:55:14. > :55:17.fact that we are seeing more people going to university than ever
:55:18. > :55:19.before, and particularly children from disadvantaged backgrounds
:55:20. > :55:26.applying unsuccessfully going to university, which suggests these
:55:27. > :55:32.reforms are working. Do you think the tuition fee system is
:55:33. > :55:40.financially stable? It has enabled universities to be financially
:55:41. > :55:43.stable and more students to go to university. I think it is
:55:44. > :55:56.catastrophic because having trouble tuition fees, you are at best seeing
:55:57. > :56:01.it raise very little money, at worst costing more. It is a student loan
:56:02. > :56:05.time bomb, and the result we are left with is that we have got young
:56:06. > :56:11.viewers watching this programme who are subtle and will be saddled with
:56:12. > :56:15.huge debts as a result. This coming from the party that gave us the
:56:16. > :56:19.brown review in the first place about increasing tuition fees. We
:56:20. > :56:24.should be focusing on the fact we have more young people from
:56:25. > :56:32.disadvantaged backgrounds than ever before... Has either of you ever
:56:33. > :56:41.driven a Lamborghini? I never have! What is the most expensive car you
:56:42. > :56:45.have ever driven? I test drove a Tesla vehicle. That is a very cool
:56:46. > :56:49.answer. That's about it for another week.
:56:50. > :56:52.All sorts of good things next Sunday at nine but here's the thing.
:56:53. > :56:56.Listen! There's motor racing - the Malaysian Grand Prix - here on BBC
:56:57. > :57:01.One. So for one week only the show will be on BBC Two. Get the wrong
:57:02. > :57:04.channel and all you will hear is growling. We can do better than
:57:05. > :57:13.growling here - as promised, Gregory Porter and 'Liquid Spirit'.
:57:14. > :57:19.# Un re-route the rivers # Let the dammed water be. # There's some
:57:20. > :57:23.people down the way that's thirsty # So let the liquid spirit free.
:57:24. > :57:25.# The people are thirsty # Cos of man's unnatural hand.
:57:26. > :57:29.# Watch what happens when the people catch wind # When the water hits the
:57:30. > :57:32.banks of that hard dry land. # Clap your hands now # Go ahead and
:57:33. > :57:39.clap your hands now. # Clap your hands now # Go ahead and
:57:40. > :57:44.clap your hands now, hmm. # Get ready for the wave # It might
:57:45. > :57:47.strike like the final flood. # The people haven't drank is so long #
:57:48. > :57:51.The water won't even make mud. # After it comes, it might come with
:57:52. > :57:54.a steady flow # Grab the roots of the tree.
:57:55. > :57:59.# Down by the river, fill your cup when your spirit's low.
:58:00. > :58:03.# Clap your hands now # Go ahead and clap your hands now.
:58:04. > :58:07.# Clap your hands now # Go ahead and clap your hands now, hmm.
:58:08. > :58:10.# Dip down and take a drink # And fill your water tank.
:58:11. > :58:35.# Dip down and take a drink # And fill your water tank.
:58:36. > :58:41.# Un re-route the rivers # Let the dammed water be.
:58:42. > :58:43.# There's some people down the way that's thirsty # Let the liquid
:58:44. > :58:48.spirits free. # The folk are thirsty # Because of
:58:49. > :58:52.man's unnatural hand. # Watch what happens when the people
:58:53. > :58:58.catch wind # Of the water hitting banks of hard dry land.
:58:59. > :59:29.# Clap your hands now # Go ahead and clap your hands now.