:00:32. > :00:37.If there's an Islamist plot bubbling in Britain's schools, extremists
:00:38. > :00:42.have this morning claimed their first scalps - a battered Home
:00:43. > :00:46.Secretary forced to fire her closest adviser and an Education Secretary
:00:47. > :01:01.damaged after being made to publicly apologise. There's even talk
:01:02. > :01:05.That doesn't matter very much, two damaged Cabinet egos.
:01:06. > :01:08.What does matter is what's going on in these classrooms and
:01:09. > :01:12.This isn't about two ministers' futures, it's about Britain's.
:01:13. > :01:16.And joining me today for our review of the Sunday newspapers, the former
:01:17. > :01:18.First Sea Lord and one-time Security Minister, Admiral Lord West.
:01:19. > :01:20.And the mothership of the Liberal Democrats,
:01:21. > :01:23.Of course, this week we've been remembering D-Day.
:01:24. > :01:27.The EU may have helped keep the peace in Europe since the War
:01:28. > :01:30.but it's a fractious and uneasy union now, as the recent
:01:31. > :01:34.Violence is growing worse in Ukraine and, in the west,
:01:35. > :01:37.political strife has been driven by the economic crisis - not over -
:01:38. > :01:40.as I've been hearing from the head of the IMF, Christine Lagarde.
:01:41. > :01:43.She's been in London to report on the relative health
:01:44. > :01:47.But, of course, we talked about European politics too and
:01:48. > :01:53.Some think she'd be the best woman for the top job of President
:01:54. > :01:57.And we'll talk more about EU reform and those Cabinet
:01:58. > :02:02.battles later on with the Foreign Secretary, William Hague.
:02:03. > :02:06.UKIP failed to win its by-election battle with the Tories this week but
:02:07. > :02:09.seems increasingly to be training its guns on the Labour Party.
:02:10. > :02:13.Should Labour respond with a tougher policy on immigration?
:02:14. > :02:16.The woman who has to decide is the Shadow Home Secretary,
:02:17. > :02:23.Also, with 100 days to go until the referendum on Scottish independence,
:02:24. > :02:27.we'll be joined by somebody who certainly does want to be in Europe,
:02:28. > :02:32.What does he make of President Obama's unexpected
:02:33. > :02:44.And our music this morning hails from Scotland too:
:02:45. > :02:48.Eddi Reader is here with a song from her latest album.
:02:49. > :02:52.First though, it's over to Sian for the morning's news headlines.
:02:53. > :02:56.The Education Secretary, Michael Gove, has apologised to the Prime
:02:57. > :02:59.Minister following a bitter public row with the Home Secretary, Theresa
:03:00. > :03:03.May, over reports that hard-line Muslims had attempted to influence
:03:04. > :03:08.Mrs May's special advisor has resigned after David Cameron
:03:09. > :03:18.Our political correspondent, Chris Mason, reports.
:03:19. > :03:27.Wednesday was supposed to be the day at Westminster dominated by this...
:03:28. > :03:30.My Lords and Members of the House of Commons.
:03:31. > :03:32.The Queen 's Speech, the Government setting out
:03:33. > :03:37.Never mind the pomp and ceremony, instead there was a public spat
:03:38. > :03:39.between two of the Government's most senior Conservative ministers,
:03:40. > :03:44.The row broke out because of the allegations still hovering over
:03:45. > :03:48.21 schools in Birmingham and the suggestion there has been a takeover
:03:49. > :03:56.Michael Gove told the Times the Home Office 's response to extremism
:03:57. > :03:59.was inadequate and that some had been very wary of drawing attention
:04:00. > :04:06.to the alleged events here as it might be seen as Islamophobic.
:04:07. > :04:07.This woman, the Home Secretary 's special
:04:08. > :04:10.adviser, Fiona Cunningham, told reporters that Mr Gove was trying to
:04:11. > :04:18.The resignation leaves the Home Secretary wounded.
:04:19. > :04:22.Michael Gove 's apology to the Prime Minister and a senior Home Office
:04:23. > :04:28.It will not be easy for him to face questions from MPs
:04:29. > :04:32.in the Commons tomorrow after the inspectors' reports into those
:04:33. > :04:39.Football's world governing body, FIFA, is under growing pressure
:04:40. > :04:43.over its decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar.
:04:44. > :04:47.One of its main sponsors, Sony, has called for a thorough investigation
:04:48. > :04:50.into allegations of corruption during the bidding process.
:04:51. > :04:54.Here's our sports editor, David Bond.
:04:55. > :04:57.It has not been an easy ride but with a few days to go Brazil is
:04:58. > :05:04.getting ready to stage football 's biggest party.
:05:05. > :05:08.For the men who run the global game, it is the World Cup in Qatar
:05:09. > :05:14.Today more allegations about how the tiny Gulf State won the right
:05:15. > :05:27.The Sunday Times says Qatar 's disgraced former football chief,
:05:28. > :05:31.Mohamed bin Hammam, brokered deals and favours to secure
:05:32. > :05:40.However, both Qatar and bin Hammam have repeatedly denied he played any
:05:41. > :05:47.Britain 's most senior football official admits it has been another
:05:48. > :05:52.tough week but he says FIFA is changing.
:05:53. > :05:57.Mr bin Hammam, who there has been a lot of talk about recently, he
:05:58. > :06:02.Many of these are the people who are mentioned are no
:06:03. > :06:07.In the meantime, Qatar are getting on with their plans.
:06:08. > :06:10.They and FIFA will be hoping the football in Brazil will take
:06:11. > :06:20.Security is tight in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, ahead of
:06:21. > :06:24.the swearing-in ceremony of the new president, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi.
:06:25. > :06:27.Mr el-Sisi won last month's elections by a landslide,
:06:28. > :06:34.The elections came less than a year after he deposed the
:06:35. > :06:40.Here, the Health and Safety Executive has
:06:41. > :06:43.begun an investigation into the death of a ten-year-old boy, who was
:06:44. > :06:52.It happened on a farm near Dunloy in County Antrim yesterday afternoon.
:06:53. > :06:56.The boy's father has been left critically injured.
:06:57. > :06:59.A Royal Navy warship has been deployed to the Baltic Sea for a
:07:00. > :07:03.military exercise, amid continuing tensions with Russia over Ukraine.
:07:04. > :07:06.The Defence Secretary, Philip Hammond, has announced that
:07:07. > :07:09.British forces will take part in three operations in the Baltic
:07:10. > :07:14.region to provide reassurance to allies in Eastern Europe.
:07:15. > :07:16.He added that the situation in Ukraine continues to be
:07:17. > :07:21.of great concern to the international community.
:07:22. > :07:25.I'll be back with the headlines just before 10am.
:07:26. > :07:56.The Mail on Sunday talks about bloodbath over Muslim schools the --
:07:57. > :08:02.fiasco. Michael Gove is forced to apologise. A moving story in the
:08:03. > :08:09.Independent on Sunday about rape in wall. When we rape, we feel free.
:08:10. > :08:13.Finally, the Sunday Times, carrying on its assault on FIFA, which seems
:08:14. > :08:15.to be bearing a lot of fruit at the moment, judging by the news
:08:16. > :08:19.headlines. And with me to review the papers are
:08:20. > :08:38.Shirley Williams and Lord West. Be Michael Gove and Theresa May
:08:39. > :08:44.story is quite serious. They are both substantial contenders for
:08:45. > :08:48.future Prime Minister. They are probably the most significant,
:08:49. > :08:52.specific Cabinet ministers on the right of the Conservative Party. One
:08:53. > :08:56.would have thought they would be singing in chorus. They have broken
:08:57. > :09:01.their relationship of the Muslim issue in Birmingham. I think one of
:09:02. > :09:05.the real problems is that Mr Gove has brought in a policy under which
:09:06. > :09:11.the Department of Education is almost solely responsible for the
:09:12. > :09:15.way schools are run - whether they practice the National Curriculum. He
:09:16. > :09:19.has a contract with every single academy and every free school helped
:09:20. > :09:27.by the Department of Education. If there is a free school, it is his
:09:28. > :09:34.responsibility? It is his responsibility and it is too much.
:09:35. > :09:38.He simply cannot do this. You wear a former Education Secretary. You have
:09:39. > :09:48.sat in the chair and looked at the scale of the job. I think he has
:09:49. > :09:52.taken on too much. He is terribly dependent on Ofsted. They may miss
:09:53. > :09:57.something for a couple of years. I am going back to the Muslim issue,
:09:58. > :10:01.it is crucial we have a consensus on the approach to that. It really
:10:02. > :10:07.means we have to respect the National Curriculum for all
:10:08. > :10:12.schools. We have another Former Minister and you are on the security
:10:13. > :10:18.side. Do you regard this as a security story rather than a Cabinet
:10:19. > :10:26.row? This is something of great concern. There is an article by Toby
:10:27. > :10:28.Young in the Mail on Sunday and an article in the Sunday Telegraph
:10:29. > :10:33.which expose some of the real difficulties. We have not got this
:10:34. > :10:38.right. Alasdair Palmer points out that back in the mid-90s we were
:10:39. > :10:49.ignoring these things beginning to happen. The French warned us. They
:10:50. > :10:54.had a term for it. Are we ignoring it again? There has been a huge
:10:55. > :11:00.debate about multiculturalism. I think we have gone the wrong way. We
:11:01. > :11:04.have a wonderful society. Britain is a marvellous place. We cannot allow
:11:05. > :11:09.little groups to form which have a different agenda and the different
:11:10. > :11:19.way of looking at things. Michael Gove is essentially right to warn
:11:20. > :11:25.about this? He was warned by a highly regarded headmaster in 2010.
:11:26. > :11:33.We are all in 2014. I have to say, I do not think he has the time or
:11:34. > :11:38.energy to follow these things up. Sky it is understood. We have to get
:11:39. > :11:41.the local community, local government and local educational
:11:42. > :11:48.parity. Everyone needs to be involved in this, otherwise we will
:11:49. > :11:51.not get that. We also have to get non-Muslims involved with Muslims
:11:52. > :11:56.together. We have to move on. We have been talking all week about the
:11:57. > :12:01.D-Day celebrations. You had a programme on the radio about the
:12:02. > :12:11.Navy. It looks to me like the Mail on Sunday again. This is Bernard
:12:12. > :12:14.Jordan, the great escapee. What a wonderful thing! The aspect I really
:12:15. > :12:20.picked up was he was in naval officer. He said he was involved
:12:21. > :12:23.with the Enigma machines and our ability to crack the German codes
:12:24. > :12:27.and beat them. There was a piece in the Sunday Times, a lovely page
:12:28. > :12:33.showing the level of ships involved. That shows the individual.
:12:34. > :12:38.All of this, we forget with these huge pivotal events, that everyone
:12:39. > :12:44.involved is an individual. It talks about this chap being sunk and
:12:45. > :12:48.climbing out. We have seen the pictures of the troops that went
:12:49. > :12:55.ashore and the veterans from the Army. Perhaps we forget how many
:12:56. > :13:02.people died in the Navy. The other thing we should be proud of, there
:13:03. > :13:09.have been about 6000 ships. Of those ships, about 5000 were British.
:13:10. > :13:13.Imagine that. There is a tendency to call it the American invasion. That
:13:14. > :13:19.wretched film that we do not talk about. I want to say there is a
:13:20. > :13:25.wonderful spirit. He said, I loved every minute of my great escape and
:13:26. > :13:28.I would do it again. You can see the whole of the older generation
:13:29. > :13:32.mobilising. We are still there as individuals and we are as gutsy as
:13:33. > :13:41.we ever were. Do you think we are going to see a whole wave of
:13:42. > :13:44.pensioners absconding from homes? Almost certainly. Climbing out of
:13:45. > :13:51.windows! A number of veterans have said, people keep saying this is our
:13:52. > :13:57.last gathering. We intend to be there in ten years. When you are
:13:58. > :14:07.looking back as a historian, what do you feel about the scale of the
:14:08. > :14:12.cuts? I think we have gone too far with the Navy. We still run global
:14:13. > :14:16.shipping from London and we are totally reliant on those sinews that
:14:17. > :14:23.keeps the global village together. To have 19 escorts is a national
:14:24. > :14:29.disgrace. We have to think very hard about that. We are in a very
:14:30. > :14:37.dangerous world. Every 20 hours from Qatar, which we come on to another
:14:38. > :14:44.reason, there is an LNG carrier. If you stop that, suddenly you have no
:14:45. > :14:50.power. That is the same with food and other things. Build more ships.
:14:51. > :14:54.We are engaging in exercises on the border at the moment. It is
:14:55. > :15:00.important that we show... We should have been quicker. Do not try to
:15:01. > :15:01.mess with that line. It just reinforces that.
:15:02. > :15:05.have been quicker. Do not try to mess with that line. It is probably
:15:06. > :15:08.a good thing to do these exercises. I think President Putin was caught
:15:09. > :15:12.out with what happened in Ukraine. I do not think he really wants to get
:15:13. > :15:19.involved with eastern Ukraine. He is in a bit of a mess. I think he has
:15:20. > :15:21.the bit he really wants, Crimea. I mentioned at the beginning the story
:15:22. > :15:29.in the Independent about the behaviour of soldiers in the Congo.
:15:30. > :15:37.This is a terrible story, the commanders are saying to them in, go
:15:38. > :15:43.out and rape women. A terrible phrase was used, that this makes us
:15:44. > :15:50.feel free. Our Foreign Secretary we make is taking this very seriously.
:15:51. > :15:57.-- William Hague. We are seeing this use of sexual violence as a major
:15:58. > :16:04.weapon in war increasingly. In the case of Congo, what we are seeing
:16:05. > :16:08.more and more is men soldiers being used as attackers on women, using
:16:09. > :16:13.rape as their main attack form. That raises whole issues including
:16:14. > :16:20.domestic violence and so on. There is a conference involving Angelina
:16:21. > :16:26.Jolie and so on. There is a conference this week, and also with
:16:27. > :16:32.William Hague. Where ever there is war, there is rape used...
:16:33. > :16:37.Particularly in Bosnia. There is one thing to add, there is a strong
:16:38. > :16:42.feeling that we are not treating women who flee as refugees from rape
:16:43. > :16:48.areas with the sympathy that we should have. It takes police and
:16:49. > :16:53.immigration officials to understand that this is a serious crime and not
:16:54. > :16:59.something to be waved away. Lord West, your next story. This is the
:17:00. > :17:05.World Cup issue and the allegations about bribery and things like that.
:17:06. > :17:10.When it was announced that Qatar was doing it, were any of us surprised
:17:11. > :17:14.that this nation got the thing? It made one wonder. And in a
:17:15. > :17:20.temperature of 50 degrees or something like that. What is the
:17:21. > :17:25.essence of the Sunday Times? Their second week of attacking on this
:17:26. > :17:29.story. They are showing there is a case to answer. We have got to see
:17:30. > :17:33.it fully but more and more is coming out and I think it is and about. I
:17:34. > :17:37.feel in sport, but it clearly football, there was almost too much
:17:38. > :17:41.money involved -- particularly in football, there was almost too much
:17:42. > :17:46.football. There is a story of a Durham miners team that won the
:17:47. > :17:53.equivalent of the World Cup in 1916. What a wonderful time that was.
:17:54. > :18:04.Corinthian days. I would like to skip to this story about Margot
:18:05. > :18:08.Asquith. She was a very waspish lady, reading through diaries and
:18:09. > :18:09.making comments about them. I remember a famous story when she was
:18:10. > :18:16.introduced to Jean Harlow, remember a famous story when she was
:18:17. > :18:22.Harlow said, high, how nice to see you. Lady Asquith looked at her with
:18:23. > :18:35.complete loathing and said, that he is silent -- the T is silent. When
:18:36. > :18:40.we say waspish, it is more than that. This is Churchill in the First
:18:41. > :18:44.World War. Winston's vanity is septic, he would die of blood
:18:45. > :18:49.poisoning if it was not for the red blood that circulates through his
:18:50. > :18:57.heart and stomach. It is savage stuff. We need more diarists like
:18:58. > :19:00.that. The last story... The greatest grand strategic threat to the
:19:01. > :19:03.security and defence of our islands is the possibility of Scotland
:19:04. > :19:06.separating. There is an article in the Independent that looks at the
:19:07. > :19:11.nuclear clean-up, talks about nuclear submarines. This is a
:19:12. > :19:13.serious issue. There was no doubt that if Scotland separated, it would
:19:14. > :19:18.diminish our ability to defend these islands. That is the fault of the
:19:19. > :19:23.mystery of defence not preparing properly, many would say. -- the
:19:24. > :19:30.Ministry of Defence. I am not blaming anybody but it would have a
:19:31. > :19:34.huge impact. We have to leave it there, thank you both.
:19:35. > :19:37.That's perhaps the earliest quotable line in English poetry,
:19:38. > :19:41.and shows that it was a notable relief, when summer limped in
:19:42. > :19:45.Still is. Over for further details, not necessarily in rhyming
:19:46. > :19:56.I love your hands to the weather, I think you should come here and do
:19:57. > :20:01.the weather yourself. For most of us it is going to be a beautiful day
:20:02. > :20:05.with warm sunshine. There is a chance of catching one or two heavy
:20:06. > :20:09.showers. On the satellite picture, vast swathes of the UK enjoying
:20:10. > :20:14.early morning sunshine, mid-morning sunshine. The showers will be
:20:15. > :20:18.brewing over the next few hours, probably across Wales, England,
:20:19. > :20:23.Scotland and Northern Ireland. Most of us will miss them, temperatures
:20:24. > :20:30.getting up into the mid-20s, maybe higher in the south-east. Through
:20:31. > :20:36.tonight, with the cloud and the moisture coming in from the near
:20:37. > :20:40.continent, it will be muddy. It is warm across continental Europe. 15
:20:41. > :20:45.or 16 first thing in the morning -- it will be
:20:46. > :20:53.a chance of catching a shower but still really warm, up to 25 degrees
:20:54. > :20:57.in the south-east, more like 20 degrees across the warm spots in the
:20:58. > :21:01.rest of the country. A quick outlook on what we can expect for Tuesday
:21:02. > :21:02.and Wednesday, still a mix of showers that in the south it looks
:21:03. > :21:10.as though it will stay warm. So, now we know what Barack Obama
:21:11. > :21:13.thinks about the prospect But will the President's view -
:21:14. > :21:18.that the UK should stay strong and united - have the slightest
:21:19. > :21:21.influence on voters in Scotland? Will they be more swayed
:21:22. > :21:24.by the latest promises from the unionist parties, of more power to
:21:25. > :21:27.Scotland, if it doesn't break away? With 100 days to go now until
:21:28. > :21:31.the crucial vote, I'm joined now from Aberdeen by the First Minister,
:21:32. > :21:37.Alex Salmond - good morning. Good morning. Did you regard
:21:38. > :21:45.President Obama's intervention as under the matter? -- undiplomatic?
:21:46. > :21:50.It was surprising, America had made it clear they were staying
:21:51. > :21:55.studiously neutral by the democratic referendum that was taking place in
:21:56. > :21:58.Scotland. Then of course, David Cameron has been baying everybody
:21:59. > :22:08.internationally to say everything. He is right to be worried. Perhaps
:22:09. > :22:17.in the Richter scale of presidential interventions, this is mild. It is a
:22:18. > :22:21.matter for the folks in Scotland. He hopes the UK will be strong and
:22:22. > :22:27.united as an ally. If Scotland becomes independent, America will
:22:28. > :22:30.have two allies. One of them is determined to get rid of nuclear
:22:31. > :22:37.submarines. That is presumably what is worrying the Americans most. I
:22:38. > :22:41.heard Lord West, he is exercised by it, but he believes Trident
:22:42. > :22:46.submarines make the country more secure, I don't. A number of his
:22:47. > :22:53.former colleagues share my view rather than his. If the rest of the
:22:54. > :22:58.UK wants to retain a nuclear tape ability they can do so for the bid
:22:59. > :23:03.would be an unwise -- nuclear capability, they can do so. I think
:23:04. > :23:06.it would be unwise. It would not be wise to have nuclear station in
:23:07. > :23:11.Scotland after independence. I am not saying they would have to be
:23:12. > :23:17.moved in the day after, but remove they should be. You mentioned in a
:23:18. > :23:21.newspaper article that the unionist parties have come up with different
:23:22. > :23:25.tax-raising ideas for the Scottish Parliament. I have been talking to
:23:26. > :23:28.yes campaigners and there is a general sense that this is an
:23:29. > :23:33.inevitable process, that even if the vote doesn't go the way you hope,
:23:34. > :23:38.Scotland will get more power and eventually independence will come.
:23:39. > :23:42.Will you agree with that? The only guarantee of getting more powers is
:23:43. > :23:47.to vote yes on September the 18th. Anything else is in the grace and
:23:48. > :23:53.favour of the unionist parties. They have form in these sorts of things.
:23:54. > :23:59.You and I are old enough to remember 1979, not just Alec Douglas Hume but
:24:00. > :24:04.Margaret Thatcher indicated that if Scots voted no, there would be a
:24:05. > :24:08.better deal coming along. Scots voted yes, we did not get
:24:09. > :24:12.devolution, we got 18 years of Margaret Thatcher's government. I
:24:13. > :24:17.think having had that experience, it would be foolish to rely on promises
:24:18. > :24:22.from unionist parties. Far better to take the matter into our own hands
:24:23. > :24:29.on September the 18th. The political atmosphere in Scotland is completely
:24:30. > :24:32.different to 79. Do you think in these circumstances, the unionist
:24:33. > :24:35.parties are not telling the truth when they say they would give the
:24:36. > :24:40.Scottish Parliament new powers if there was a no vote? I am just
:24:41. > :24:43.saying we should not rely on pre-referendum promises by parties
:24:44. > :24:48.which are under pressure, under pressure because we have that
:24:49. > :24:53.referendum date, we have the ability on September 18 to take the decision
:24:54. > :24:59.for ourselves. It would be wise for us to do so. There is no doubt that
:25:00. > :25:03.the Scottish Parliament, since 1999, as accumulated substantially more
:25:04. > :25:09.power. That has been a good thing for Scotland. -- has accumulated.
:25:10. > :25:13.You might argue that we have had a 100 year process of devolution of
:25:14. > :25:19.power being devolved to Scotland and perhaps in the next 100 days we can
:25:20. > :25:22.complete that journey. I have been talking to lots of people in
:25:23. > :25:26.Scotland and I find it is completely impossible to guess what is going to
:25:27. > :25:34.happen. So many people say, I don't know. Keeping things to themselves.
:25:35. > :25:41.Do you think this is about ex-Labour voters in central Scotland, that is
:25:42. > :25:45.the big battle ground area? There are a number of issues which will
:25:46. > :25:50.decide the election. Rather than to King about individual categories of
:25:51. > :25:57.voters... -- Rather than talking about. People who would normally
:25:58. > :26:02.vote Labour, a large number of them will vote yes in the referendum and
:26:03. > :26:06.rightly so. What would matter is the assessment of whether we can have a
:26:07. > :26:10.more prosperous economy but also an equal society, that we can marry
:26:11. > :26:13.natural resources and human resources and talents together in a
:26:14. > :26:19.better way than Westminster control allows us to do. If we win that
:26:20. > :26:23.argument, we win the referendum. One of the most vexed issues has been
:26:24. > :26:28.the currency. You say quite rightly that the Scots have the power to
:26:29. > :26:31.decide their own future in their own referendum. A poll this morning in
:26:32. > :26:37.Scotland on Sunday suggests 60% of English voters don't want to go into
:26:38. > :26:42.a currency union with an independent Scotland, don't they also have a
:26:43. > :26:47.right to say no? That was a published poll from yesterday. If
:26:48. > :26:52.you examine the question -- populist pal. If you examine the question I
:26:53. > :27:00.have great sympathy for being less people trying to answer it. We are
:27:01. > :27:03.not -- sympathy for the English people trying to answer it. We are
:27:04. > :27:08.saying let's keep sterling, we're not asking them to move to a
:27:09. > :27:14.different currency, just to keep the pound that we both have. It is
:27:15. > :27:18.Scotland's pound as well as London's pound. It is a shared
:27:19. > :27:21.currency and we think it is perfectly reasonable to say that
:27:22. > :27:25.after independence, we can continue to share a currency for the bid has
:27:26. > :27:31.been done before rather successfully to in Belgium and Luxembourg for
:27:32. > :27:38.about 80 years -- between Belgium and Luxembourg. Does it not mean
:27:39. > :27:43.that each side has to agree? The point I make is that the people in
:27:44. > :27:46.the rest of the UK are not being asked to change their currency and
:27:47. > :27:50.parliament would be well able to decide that. The point about keeping
:27:51. > :27:55.the pound, it is not just in the interest of Scotland, we have been
:27:56. > :28:00.outlining why we think it is in the joint interests of Scotland and the
:28:01. > :28:08.rest of the UK. We have 100 days to go, many interesting and enjoyable
:28:09. > :28:10.jousts, is this going to be your last hurrah? If you don't win, we
:28:11. > :28:16.have another last hurrah? If you don't win, we
:28:17. > :28:19.stay on? I thought you were going to say it would be my last appearance
:28:20. > :28:29.on your programme! There will be plenty of opportunities. Lucky
:28:30. > :28:32.Britain! Whatever happens, I will continue to serve the people of
:28:33. > :28:37.Scotland in whatever capacity they choose for me to do so. We are
:28:38. > :28:42.anticipating a yes vote on September 18, and the chance to take matters
:28:43. > :28:49.into our own hands and to take charge of our own destiny in
:28:50. > :28:54.Scotland. You won't come back yourself leading another referendum
:28:55. > :28:58.campaign? I have said a number of times that my view on the referendum
:28:59. > :29:07.and the Constitution, it is one's inability call generation -- once in
:29:08. > :29:10.a political generation. This is the first Democratic consented
:29:11. > :29:13.opportunity to vote for independence. People are talking
:29:14. > :29:18.about it is the most important vote for 300 years, it is the first
:29:19. > :29:23.aquatic vote on Scottish independence. It is a fantastic --
:29:24. > :29:27.first democratic vote. It is a fantastic opportunity that we should
:29:28. > :29:29.grasp with both hands. Thank you for joining us.
:29:30. > :29:31.What message should Labour take from the recent European
:29:32. > :29:37.Some in the party see UKIP's success as a big threat and are urging
:29:38. > :29:40.Ed Miliband to send out a tougher message on immigration.
:29:41. > :29:44.Others are warning him not to become a pale imitation of Nigel Farage.
:29:45. > :29:46.The Shadow Home Secretary says Labour should be ready to
:29:47. > :29:50.But what exactly would Labour do, if it gets into government?
:29:51. > :30:04.Yvette Cooper is with me now - welcome. I must ask you about the
:30:05. > :30:11.current front page row between Theresa May and Michael Gove. It is
:30:12. > :30:14.very serious what has happened. It has been a very chaotic government
:30:15. > :30:16.over something so important. There are concerns in the schools in
:30:17. > :30:19.Birmingham and how over something so important. There
:30:20. > :30:26.are concerns in the schools in you make sure it has been a balanced
:30:27. > :30:28.education. There are problems in communities which prevent strategy.
:30:29. > :30:35.Having gaps because of the department not working together.
:30:36. > :30:40.First of all, in terms of the positions of the two ministers
:30:41. > :30:46.involved, you know from your own experience in government it is not
:30:47. > :30:51.entirely unique. I have never seen it on something so important which
:30:52. > :30:55.has implications for national security. The Education Secretary
:30:56. > :30:59.has apologised. The special adviser to the Home Secretary has resigned.
:31:00. > :31:09.We have heard nothing from the Home Secretary. It looks pretty clear she
:31:10. > :31:14.has breached the Ministerial Code. The response -- the Prime Minister
:31:15. > :31:19.is responsible for enforcing the Ministerial Code. He needs to act
:31:20. > :31:25.and make sure they are forcing these issues. What should Theresa May do
:31:26. > :31:30.now? She needs to come out publicly and answer what she did to publish
:31:31. > :31:39.this letter. The Ministerial Code says that ministerial correspondence
:31:40. > :31:47.in Cabinet committee should not be published. She presumably must have
:31:48. > :31:52.authorised that. Why has she not apologised and recognise that? There
:31:53. > :31:56.are questions to answer. We need to recognise the more important issues
:31:57. > :32:02.in terms of schools and communities are addressed. Do you think there is
:32:03. > :32:09.a problem with Islamist propaganda being enforced and girls being full
:32:10. > :32:16.to sit at the back of classrooms? Is it a real description of what is
:32:17. > :32:20.going on? We need to look at the Ofsted report. It is about children
:32:21. > :32:27.not getting a balanced education, not having a balanced curriculum.
:32:28. > :32:31.The problem is the reforms from Michael Gove have made it harder to
:32:32. > :32:38.have the kind of local oversight that you need to prevent problems
:32:39. > :32:43.arising and make sure the curriculum is balanced. He did not investigate
:32:44. > :32:50.this earlier that he has made it harder for local authorities as
:32:51. > :32:54.well. It is not necessarily the case that handing it to the local
:32:55. > :33:00.authority is the problem. Do you need to have a centralised attack on
:33:01. > :33:06.the draining the swamp issue? I think you need a broad strategy to
:33:07. > :33:10.prevent extremism. It is becoming particularly significant in Syria
:33:11. > :33:16.and the Syrian conflict. Young people are potentially becoming
:33:17. > :33:21.radicalised and returning. Is it more widespread than Birmingham?
:33:22. > :33:29.More widely around communities. It is really important. You have gaps.
:33:30. > :33:34.What Theresa May has done is to treat to a police -based approach.
:33:35. > :33:37.Police work is really important, particularly when there is a concern
:33:38. > :33:42.that someone is getting involved in violent extremism. You also need to
:33:43. > :33:46.work closely with communities and support communities who want to take
:33:47. > :33:55.a lead in tackling extremism, as many of them do. That work seems to
:33:56. > :33:58.have stopped altogether. The departments are not resolving a
:33:59. > :34:03.because they are too busy fighting each other. You took quite a
:34:04. > :34:06.whacking from UKIP. There are lots of areas around the country where
:34:07. > :34:13.labour is fighting UKIP quite hard. Do you think the party needs to
:34:14. > :34:18.think again and come up with new messages? We did increase the number
:34:19. > :34:24.of councillors. We won 300 more councillors. You are raising the
:34:25. > :34:30.issue about UKIP. UKIP, I think, has been playing on people 's fears and
:34:31. > :34:33.exploiting that. People do have legitimate concerns about
:34:34. > :34:35.immigration. That is why we have said reforms are needed on
:34:36. > :34:42.immigration, on things like stronger border controls. On the impact of
:34:43. > :34:48.immigration, jobs and wages. I think the concern that people have most
:34:49. > :34:52.seriously is that. Immigration over many years has brought great
:34:53. > :34:55.benefits to Britain and is important for the future. White rapper you
:34:56. > :35:03.announce these policies in the past before you got damaged by UKIP. --
:35:04. > :35:06.you announced these policies in the past. You like we've found talking
:35:07. > :35:15.about immigration rather than shouting about it does help stop we
:35:16. > :35:20.have found talking about immigration. It is about stopping
:35:21. > :35:27.dodgy employers and firms exploiting it. Getting rid of zero hours
:35:28. > :35:33.contracts. If those are the answers, you would have done much better but
:35:34. > :35:37.it is said you are failing old-fashioned communities, the
:35:38. > :35:43.people the Labour Party was founded to protect. This is because of
:35:44. > :35:48.unlimited migration within the European Union. Are you prepared to
:35:49. > :35:52.do anything about this? What Rachel and Hazel and others have said is
:35:53. > :35:57.the same as Ed Miliband has said. Working people are feeling left
:35:58. > :36:09.behind. All I am asking is what she will do about it? Concerning Europe,
:36:10. > :36:12.I do think rules should be made about introducing stronger
:36:13. > :36:16.transitional controls for new countries arriving and also changes
:36:17. > :36:21.to the rules around people who have committed crimes. You should not
:36:22. > :36:26.have free movement for criminals. We have talked before about the impact
:36:27. > :36:30.of employers and dodgy employers. Do not underestimate the importance.
:36:31. > :36:34.Nobody is addressing this. UKIP 's policies would make it worse by
:36:35. > :36:39.making it easier for employers to undercut local wages and jobs. If
:36:40. > :36:42.that is not dealt with, we would see growing concern and UKIP would
:36:43. > :36:44.continue to exploit it. We cannot imitate UKIP. We need to take them
:36:45. > :36:47.on. Historically,
:36:48. > :36:49.the head of the International Monetary Fund has always been
:36:50. > :36:52.a figure of immense influence. With the election of Christine
:36:53. > :36:55.Lagarde to the role of World Finance Minister, the Fund's first female
:36:56. > :36:58.director has really made her mark. Last year, the IMF caused
:36:59. > :37:01.a furore by accusing George Osborne of "playing with fire" by insisting
:37:02. > :37:04.on austerity in the UK. When I met her there,
:37:05. > :37:16.she told me why the IMF is now inclined to give Britain
:37:17. > :37:20.a fairly clean bill of health. We do see the UK
:37:21. > :37:25.economy as growing well. It is one of the highest growth rates of the
:37:26. > :37:31.advanced economies at the moment. Added to which, that growth is
:37:32. > :37:36.fuelled both by consumption but also now by investment. Not just public
:37:37. > :37:40.investment, as we had recommended earlier on, but also with private
:37:41. > :37:46.investment. Export is lagging behind a little bit. Those two big
:37:47. > :37:50.cylinders of growth, if you will, consumption and investment, are
:37:51. > :37:55.fuelling growth which, in our view, makes it more sustainable than if it
:37:56. > :37:59.was fuelled exclusively by consumption as was feared a few
:38:00. > :38:06.months back. So, that is a pretty sustainable and good position to be
:38:07. > :38:11.in. But, there are obviously risks on the horizon. We see two
:38:12. > :38:18.categories of risks - the domestic risks, the external risks. The
:38:19. > :38:24.domestic risks are number one, relatively low productivity, which
:38:25. > :38:29.might go away and I am happy to discuss that and the second is the
:38:30. > :38:36.housing rising prices. You say rising prices, you do not think a
:38:37. > :38:40.boom at this point or a bubble? No. What our team has clearly seen and
:38:41. > :38:46.acknowledge is that the housing market in the UK is multifaceted.
:38:47. > :38:53.The secondary risks are external risks. The Eurozone? The slow down
:38:54. > :39:11.in emerging market economies. We read that you are a friend of
:39:12. > :39:15.George Osborne. Has he taken you to one side and said, I am terribly
:39:16. > :39:26.sorry. We accused you of playing with via a year ago. You were wrong
:39:27. > :39:30.-- we were wrong and you were right. We said we had underestimated growth
:39:31. > :39:40.for the UK. Our forecast had been proven wrong by the reality of
:39:41. > :39:45.economy developments. Have you apologised to George Osborne for
:39:46. > :39:55.what he said a year ago? He resisted very strongly, as she would. Did you
:39:56. > :39:58.apologised to him for it? I completely acknowledged we
:39:59. > :40:04.underestimated growth. Do I have to go on my knees and bend over
:40:05. > :40:09.backwards? We underestimated it. We got it wrong. We acknowledged it. We
:40:10. > :40:15.were not the only ones to get it wrong. We were in good company. Most
:40:16. > :40:20.forecasters got it wrong. Clearly, the confidence building that has
:40:21. > :40:25.resulted from the economic policies adopted by the Government has
:40:26. > :40:30.surprised many of us. I promise this is not rich will media flagellation,
:40:31. > :40:36.some people say, the British economy has some serious problems with its
:40:37. > :40:41.fragility, too much consumer debt, too much boom aspects of the housing
:40:42. > :40:45.market, exports are not strong enough, industrial investment is not
:40:46. > :40:52.very good. You in danger of being too positive, just as you are too
:40:53. > :40:56.negative last time? If the recovery had boosted essentially by
:40:57. > :41:02.consumption, our take would have been different. The fact that it was
:41:03. > :41:07.consumption led and now private investment is taking the baton of
:41:08. > :41:12.that race for gross, I think is comforting and leads us to believe
:41:13. > :41:18.it is much more sustainable going forward. You are right to mention
:41:19. > :41:25.exports. Exports is sub Jude and could certainly be improved over
:41:26. > :41:31.time. -- subdued. If productivity increases going forward, that should
:41:32. > :41:34.help with exports. Overall, what you are saying sounds like an
:41:35. > :41:38.endorsement of the chancellorship of George Osborne. We are not focusing
:41:39. > :41:42.on endorsing one group or the other, taking sides if you will.
:41:43. > :41:48.That is often what journalists would like to corner us over. It has been
:41:49. > :41:53.under his watch and he has been quite steely in the face of
:41:54. > :41:59.criticism in sticking to his course. We have to look at numbers. What
:42:00. > :42:02.numbers are telling us is that growth is one of the strongest in
:42:03. > :42:10.the advanced economies and seems to be sustainable based on its -- it
:42:11. > :42:17.being too strong going forward. Inflation has been lowered. Getting
:42:18. > :42:21.the financial sector healthier. We hope reforms will continue. I
:42:22. > :42:31.personally hope there will be a strong emphasis on the change of
:42:32. > :42:36.culture in that particular sector. Strengthen the institution is, well
:42:37. > :42:41.resourced and totally independent is key to that happening. We believe
:42:42. > :42:46.that is important. That is the overall landscape as we see it at
:42:47. > :42:51.the moment and it is rather good. We are not back to where we were
:42:52. > :42:57.pre-the crash? We have not recovered all the way. We are getting there.
:42:58. > :43:00.The European Commission said there should be higher taxes in this
:43:01. > :43:06.country to build more public investment and so forth. Do you
:43:07. > :43:15.agree with that? The mixture between tax and spending cuts is something
:43:16. > :43:21.that we regard as fairly balanced and the right mix, if you well. Do
:43:22. > :43:27.you do not really agree with that? We do not see massive increased tax
:43:28. > :43:31.as recommendable at the moment. I guess you are the most powerful
:43:32. > :43:35.woman in the world. You have to be one of them. When you are in that
:43:36. > :43:40.position, lots of people try to find two other jobs. People have asked if
:43:41. > :43:48.you are interested in the top European job. I think the only
:43:49. > :43:55.position that has not been debated for me at the moment is that can.
:43:56. > :44:01.Queen of England, I do not think? I do not want to offend your who is on
:44:02. > :44:08.the shores of my region, Normandy, at the moment. Look, I have a job! I
:44:09. > :44:12.am not a candidate to any other position. I think it is a rather
:44:13. > :44:16.important job at the moment. We are not done yet with the crisis. We
:44:17. > :44:22.need to continue helping countries at the crisis. The IMF, I believe,
:44:23. > :44:28.is a strong institution that needs continuity going forward. I intend
:44:29. > :44:33.to participate in that. I can see this is very irritating to keep
:44:34. > :44:39.being asked about it hit is very persistent. There is a disagreement
:44:40. > :44:43.going on at the moment. Lots of people in London would love you to
:44:44. > :44:50.be a candidate for the job. I you saying there is no chance for that
:44:51. > :44:54.at all? It is very kind of them. I am flattered and honoured. I would
:44:55. > :45:01.very much hope, being a European at heart, born in France and having
:45:02. > :45:06.been brought up in Normandy, I would hope that everybody would spend as
:45:07. > :45:10.much time on, what do we do with Europe? Where is it heading? That is
:45:11. > :45:16.critical for the future. Rather than, what is he going to do? What
:45:17. > :45:22.is he going to do? All the rest of it. What about the structures of
:45:23. > :45:27.Europe at the moment. Is there a serious disconnect between the
:45:28. > :45:31.people in Europe European elite? In many countries, we have seen the
:45:32. > :45:37.revolt of anti-European parties, anti-Brussels parties. Is there a
:45:38. > :45:42.serious problem to be addressed? Where I see the strongest connection
:45:43. > :45:47.is when I talked to my children. They are in their mid-20s. They feel
:45:48. > :45:51.very much French but they feel Europeans. Many of their friends are
:45:52. > :45:56.going on in Rasmus programmes, moving from one country to the other
:45:57. > :46:00.without border checking points for Europeans, using the same currency
:46:01. > :46:08.when they are within the Eurozone. We regard that as a given, it is
:46:09. > :46:12.granted. When I look at the 70th anniversary of D-Day, it was not
:46:13. > :46:18.granted in those days. We should highly valued the journey that our
:46:19. > :46:23.grandparents, parents have taken for us, and be a bit inventive about how
:46:24. > :46:27.we build a future. At some point clearly you will leave the job. Do
:46:28. > :46:33.you see a future with other French politics? I will be a happy
:46:34. > :46:35.grandmother. You will retire and watch the waves in Normandy, will
:46:36. > :46:40.you? From my hometown in Normandy. The head of the IMF,
:46:41. > :46:49.Christine Lagarde. I'm joined by the Foreign Secretary,
:46:50. > :46:58.William Hague - good morning. In terms of self-inflicted wounds,
:46:59. > :47:04.the Theresa May and Michael Gove row is something of a belter. There has
:47:05. > :47:08.been a disciplinary matter which the Prime Minister has dealt with in a
:47:09. > :47:12.very clear way, there will be discipline within the government.
:47:13. > :47:17.The main thing is the issue itself, tackling extremism in schools. Being
:47:18. > :47:22.no doubt that the government will be very robust and clear about anything
:47:23. > :47:32.that puts children in our schools at risk of extremism and at risk of
:47:33. > :47:35.their safety and learning. The Home Secretary's special adviser has been
:47:36. > :47:40.sacked because the Home Secretary's website revealed a statement
:47:41. > :47:46.publicly. Surely the Home Secretary must have known and she should be
:47:47. > :47:49.apologising? This has been looked into by the Cabinet Secretary.
:47:50. > :47:53.Michael Gove has written his letters of apology. The Home Secretary
:47:54. > :47:59.special adviser has indeed reside. That is clearly the appropriate
:48:00. > :48:03.response to this investigation -- indeed resigned. We are talking
:48:04. > :48:08.about ministers doing a fantastic job for this country. There has been
:48:09. > :48:14.a disciplinary matter but this is the Home Secretary presiding over a
:48:15. > :48:16.sustained reduction in crime... They are ministers taking answer of each
:48:17. > :48:20.other. If Theresa May knew her department was leaking by that
:48:21. > :48:26.information, surely she should have to apologise as well as Michael
:48:27. > :48:30.Gove. What has happened is the product of the Cabinet Secretary's
:48:31. > :48:34.investigation. After that the Prime Minister is clear that Michael Gove
:48:35. > :48:39.should apologise and the necessary consequences would follow for the
:48:40. > :48:42.Home Secretary's special adviser. That is the right thing to do, a
:48:43. > :48:48.good Prime Minister making sure there is discipline in the
:48:49. > :48:51.government, and David Cameron is equally timid to make sure this
:48:52. > :48:57.challenge is dealt with. The Education Secretary will make a
:48:58. > :48:59.statement tomorrow about the result of the Ofsted investigations --
:49:00. > :49:05.David Cameron is equally determined to make sure. We will deal with this
:49:06. > :49:10.very rigorously Indy. If this had happened in a school everybody would
:49:11. > :49:17.be put on the naughty step. -- rigorously indeed. Is this a
:49:18. > :49:23.shambles? Absolutely not. The issue has to be dealt with but seen in the
:49:24. > :49:25.context of a Home Secretary bringing down crime, online Education
:49:26. > :49:31.Secretary who is bringing about the most important changes and
:49:32. > :49:34.improvements in decades, I don't think what has happened is going to
:49:35. > :49:38.damage the overall record and achievements of the government. It
:49:39. > :49:42.is clear that team discipline will be maintained. The Prime Minister is
:49:43. > :49:47.meeting Angela Merkel and others tomorrow to talk about the junk
:49:48. > :49:59.question. Can you stop Jean Claude Junker becoming President of the
:50:00. > :50:03.European Commission? On the technical question of a veto, it is
:50:04. > :50:09.decided by majority voting. It is important in our view that a range
:50:10. > :50:14.of candidates are looked at. This is only one of the top jobs being
:50:15. > :50:19.decided in the European Union. There are four or five such jobs. It is
:50:20. > :50:25.very important there is a political balance, a geographic balance, it is
:50:26. > :50:29.important there are women in the top jobs. After the severity of the
:50:30. > :50:36.words that have been used, it would be a disaster for Britain if Mr
:50:37. > :50:40.Junker got the job. The important thing is that the European Union is
:50:41. > :50:48.focused on reform and change, it is not going to deliver what the people
:50:49. > :50:52.of any European country needs if it carries on as business as usual. The
:50:53. > :50:56.point the Prime Minister has been making is that the people chosen to
:50:57. > :51:02.lead the commission, the council, have to be chosen with that in mind.
:51:03. > :51:06.Up to now the Prime Minister has said Junker is not that kind of
:51:07. > :51:12.person. If he wins the battle, you will kiss and make up and do a deal
:51:13. > :51:17.with him? We will come with other governments, sort out who is going
:51:18. > :51:21.to fulfil these positions. Most importantly, that the next European
:51:22. > :51:23.Commission is one that delivers flexibility, democratic
:51:24. > :51:30.accountability, freer trade with the west of the world -- rest of the
:51:31. > :51:34.world. That is what matters rather than the personalities. That is what
:51:35. > :51:39.we are focusing on. It includes having individuals that will push
:51:40. > :51:43.that agenda. The connection is that the individuals will drive or not
:51:44. > :51:49.drive. Do you have a candidate you would like to see get that job?
:51:50. > :51:52.There are talented candidates around Europe. I am not going to set up a
:51:53. > :51:59.candidate to embarrass a candidate today, who will then be attacked by
:52:00. > :52:03.the media or other countries. We will keep our counsel, keep in close
:52:04. > :52:06.touch with other countries, the Prime Minister will have further
:52:07. > :52:10.discussions over the next few days. The important thing for us is the
:52:11. > :52:16.trajectory of the European Union and our ability to deliver reform,
:52:17. > :52:20.renegotiation... If you get the wrong people you will not be able to
:52:21. > :52:23.negotiate what you need ahead of the referendum as promised. This is why
:52:24. > :52:32.we need the right people. This is why we need the right people. This
:52:33. > :52:36.it is what we want Europe to achieve and Britain to achieve, rather than
:52:37. > :52:42.the personalities of the individuals. President Putin has
:52:43. > :52:46.come over, do you think he is having second thoughts, starting to rein
:52:47. > :52:52.back the dog is a bit in Ukraine? The test of that will be over the
:52:53. > :52:56.coming days, will Russia stop allowing arms to go over the border,
:52:57. > :52:59.people to go over the border into Ukraine who then join violent
:53:00. > :53:04.supporters groups? We look to Russia to take action on that, the Prime
:53:05. > :53:09.Minister made it clear to President Putin a few days ago. Do you see any
:53:10. > :53:17.change question not There is some change in tone. President Putin had
:53:18. > :53:21.a normal meeting with the new president of Ukraine and it is very
:53:22. > :53:24.important that Russia and Ukraine discuss things together. We will
:53:25. > :53:29.keep up this balance of pressure on Russia, including the possibility of
:53:30. > :53:35.more wide-ranging sanctions and diplomacy with Russia. The
:53:36. > :53:45.diplomatic doors are fully open. We were talking about the use of rape
:53:46. > :53:49.in a -- as a weapon of war, Angelina Jolie will be at a summit with you.
:53:50. > :53:53.It will be co-chaired by Angelina Jolie and me, it is like no other
:53:54. > :53:57.summit. People can come, your viewers can come from Tuesday to
:53:58. > :54:02.Thursday, they don't have to register in advance, there are 150
:54:03. > :54:06.fringe meetings, people who want to join us in ending sexual violence in
:54:07. > :54:10.conflict can comfort of this is the most important event in a two-year
:54:11. > :54:17.campaign that Angelina Jolie I have been waging EU will hear about it
:54:18. > :54:25.over the week. -- you will hear about it.
:54:26. > :54:29.Now over to Sian for the news headlines.
:54:30. > :54:36.The Shadow Home Secretary Yvette Cooper also told this programme that
:54:37. > :54:40.she thinks Theresa May needs to come out publicly and explain what she
:54:41. > :54:43.knew in advance about the publication of a letter at the
:54:44. > :54:47.centre of a row with her Cabinet colleagues on the Michael Gove. --
:54:48. > :54:50.Cabinet colleagues, Michael Gove. The First Minister of Scotland has
:54:51. > :54:53.said he was "surprised" by President Obama's comments on the
:54:54. > :54:57.Scottish Independence Referendum. Speaking earlier on this programme,
:54:58. > :55:00.Alex Salmond said that if Scotland did become independent, "America
:55:01. > :55:02.will have two allies, not one". Mr Salmond referred to
:55:03. > :55:04.the referendum as a moment that comes along only
:55:05. > :55:07."once in a political generation". William Hague is still here,
:55:08. > :55:18.and we've been joined again by Yvette Cooper.
:55:19. > :55:20.You heard Christine Lagarde there, she thinks the British
:55:21. > :55:36.economy is in pretty good shape now. She is endorsing the austerity
:55:37. > :55:40.programme. Finally the economy is growing, thank goodness for that,
:55:41. > :55:45.but too many people are not feeling it, too many people are being left
:55:46. > :55:49.behind across the country. The IMF are right to one about some of the
:55:50. > :55:53.concerns about the housing market, we have got to build more homes or
:55:54. > :55:59.we will see an ongoing balance of power in the future. The whole world
:56:00. > :56:04.admires what this country is doing. It is only the British Labour Party
:56:05. > :56:07.that cannot see that. There are a lot of people across the country
:56:08. > :56:08.that don't admire the fact that their cost of living has gone
:56:09. > :56:10.backwards. In a moment,
:56:11. > :56:14.we'll hear from Eddi Reader - she had a series of hits with
:56:15. > :56:17.the band Fairground Attraction back in the 1980s and is now pursuing
:56:18. > :56:20.a very successful solo career. She's headlining at the opening
:56:21. > :56:23.concert for the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow next month, and her new
:56:24. > :56:27.album, Vagabond, is out now. Eddi -
:56:28. > :56:36.what are you going to play for us? It is a song about leaving home and
:56:37. > :56:39.standing on your own two feet, it is called baby's boat.
:56:40. > :56:41.We're back next week with the "Better Together" view from
:56:42. > :56:44.Scotland, the gutsy American actress Kathleen Turner and much more.
:56:45. > :57:04.But right now, as promised, Eddi Reader.
:57:05. > :57:13.# Baby's boat. # A silver moon, sailing in the sky.
:57:14. > :57:22.# Baby's fish. # For dreams.
:57:23. > :57:30.# Fishing near and far for dreams. # Sale, baby, sale.
:57:31. > :57:33.# Out upon the sea. # Only don't forget, sail back to
:57:34. > :57:48.me. # Fish for dreams.
:57:49. > :57:55.# You are fishing near and far. # Is like a silver moon.
:57:56. > :58:00.# His bait a Silver Star. # Sale, baby, sale, out upon the
:58:01. > :58:10.sea. # Only don't forget.
:58:11. > :58:19.# Sail back to me. # Only don't forget.
:58:20. > :58:45.# Sail back to me. # Only don't forget, sail back to
:58:46. > :58:54.me. # Sail, baby, sail, out upon the
:58:55. > :58:58.sea. # Only don't forget.