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:00:39. > :00:40.It's very rare, in my experience, that The Times

:00:41. > :00:44.and The Guardian go for the same headline on a big political story.

:00:45. > :00:54."Britain Closer to EU Exit After Juncker Vote".

:00:55. > :00:58.If they're right, and most of this morning's papers

:00:59. > :01:05.agree too, this is a pivotal moment in Britain's political history.

:01:06. > :01:08.Reviewing the papers today, the UK Correspondent

:01:09. > :01:11.for 'France 24', Benedicte Paviot, and in the week that Rebekah Brooks

:01:12. > :01:13.was cleared of all charges in the phone hacking scandal,

:01:14. > :01:20.the former Director of Public Prosecutions, Sir Keir Starmer.

:01:21. > :01:23.Almost every newspaper agreed that David Cameron was right to try to

:01:24. > :01:26.stop the appointment of Jean-Claude Juncker,

:01:27. > :01:30.a devout European Federalist, as the next Commission President.

:01:31. > :01:34.But they mostly thought his tactics had been terrible too.

:01:35. > :01:36.Now the Prime Minister's left committed

:01:37. > :01:39.to a referendum but in circumstances where Britain seems to be losing

:01:40. > :01:44.the arguments, and therefore taking us towards leaving the EU.

:01:45. > :01:46.I'll be joined later by the Foreign Secretary, William Hague to discuss

:01:47. > :01:51.Plus, I'll be asking him about the crisis in Iraq,

:01:52. > :01:58.One country feeling the heat as the ISIS rampage in Iraq

:01:59. > :02:04.As the kingdom goes on high alert, I'll be talking to the

:02:05. > :02:07.Jordanian Foreign Minister live from the capital.

:02:08. > :02:09.At home the economy continues to improve,

:02:10. > :02:15.What's Labour going to say about it now?

:02:16. > :02:17.Ed Balls, the Shadow Chancellor joins us this morning.

:02:18. > :02:23.Some of the best TV drama and comedy of the past decade has

:02:24. > :02:28.He's going to take to the stage soon as Shakespeare's most

:02:29. > :02:34.I'll be talking to him later about hunchbacks and Hobbits.

:02:35. > :02:37.Finally, away from the Hobbits and the mud that is Glastonbury

:02:38. > :02:41.we're joined by one of modern rocks most iconic singers.

:02:42. > :02:43.Chrissie Hynde is going solo, but with a little help

:02:44. > :02:59.The Iraqi government has received its first batch

:03:00. > :03:04.It's hoping the jets will help it to gain the upper hand,

:03:05. > :03:07.in the battle for the northern city of Tikrit which was seized by Sunni

:03:08. > :03:18.There are conflicting reports about who is now in control there.

:03:19. > :03:25.Armoured vehicles on their way into Tikrit. State media say the Iraqi

:03:26. > :03:29.army is now in control of the city. After a major offensive involving

:03:30. > :03:36.troops, backed by tanks and helicopters. But Sunni Muslim

:03:37. > :03:42.militants who took the city more than two weeks ago disagree and have

:03:43. > :03:46.implied that the government offensive failed. Elsewhere, the

:03:47. > :03:52.rebels are still in control of large swathes of the north and west of the

:03:53. > :03:55.country. These unverified pictures claimed to show burnt out cars and

:03:56. > :04:03.empty streets inside Tikrit, the scars of heavy fighting inside the

:04:04. > :04:07.city. To is significant because it is the former hometown of hat --

:04:08. > :04:11.Saddam Hussein -- Tikrit is significant. The majority of people

:04:12. > :04:16.who live here are Sunni Muslims, but we were told that most people have

:04:17. > :04:20.left, including these people who have travelled to Kirkuk in search

:04:21. > :04:25.of safety. The Iraqi army say these jets will boost their military

:04:26. > :04:31.capability. These second-hand fighter jets are the first batch

:04:32. > :04:36.ordered from Russia. The Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, has said

:04:37. > :04:41.he hopes the jet will destroy the terrorist bases. If the Iraqi army

:04:42. > :04:44.have indeed recaptured Tikrit, it will be a significant strategic

:04:45. > :04:45.boost, particularly for the Prime Minister, who is facing growing

:04:46. > :04:51.calls to step down. The outgoing deputy governor

:04:52. > :04:53.of the Bank of England has said interest rates are unlikely to

:04:54. > :05:00.return to pre-recession levels of But Sir Charlie Bean, who's been

:05:01. > :05:04.in charge of monetary policy at the Bank, says it's reasonable to

:05:05. > :05:07.expect the base rate to rise to 2.5% Homeowners have enjoyed

:05:08. > :05:11.an historically low 0.5% base rate The Labour leader,

:05:12. > :05:15.Ed Miliband has been setting out ideas to boost growth and help

:05:16. > :05:18.businesses, including a transfer of ?30 billion of central government

:05:19. > :05:22.funding, to cities and regions. Writing in the Sunday Times,

:05:23. > :05:24.Mr Miliband says he wants a quarter of government contracts to

:05:25. > :05:27.go to smaller companies. The party is also planning to

:05:28. > :05:29.crackdown Details of how good GPs in England

:05:30. > :05:35.are at detecting and referring cases of cancer could soon be published

:05:36. > :05:38.online under government plans to The Royal College

:05:39. > :05:45.of GPs says rating surgeries in this way would be "crude", but the Health

:05:46. > :05:48.Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, is concerned that people are being forced to wait

:05:49. > :05:54.too long for treatment. The former Education Secretary,

:05:55. > :05:56.David Blunkett, has said that the Prince of Wales tried to

:05:57. > :05:58.persuade Tony Blair's government to Mr Blunkett is

:05:59. > :06:03.among three former ministers who have spoken for a radio documentary,

:06:04. > :06:06.about attempts by the Prince to All three say they welcomed

:06:07. > :06:11.their conversations with him. I'll be back with the headlines

:06:12. > :06:15.just before ten o'clock. The kingdom of Jordan is right

:06:16. > :06:23.on the frontline of the growing Last week there was an emergency

:06:24. > :06:28.call-up of the Jordanian army to Apart from the threat of ISIS

:06:29. > :06:37.on its frontiers, Jordan is also I'm joined now from Amman, by

:06:38. > :06:50.the Foreign Minister, Nasser Judeh. Thank you for joining us. How

:06:51. > :07:01.concerned are you about the threat on your border? All in a days work.

:07:02. > :07:04.We have seen violence in Syria across our northern border for the

:07:05. > :07:09.last three and a half years and we have seen violence and turbulence in

:07:10. > :07:13.western Iraq for the last few years. This is a more recent development.

:07:14. > :07:17.The report indicated that the army had gone to emergency mode. No, like

:07:18. > :07:24.I said, we are monitoring the situation closely. Don't forget that

:07:25. > :07:30.ISIS is there because of what is happening in Iraq and Syria. You say

:07:31. > :07:35.that it is all in a days work, but as far as they are concerned, your

:07:36. > :07:39.country does not exist, it is part of their caliphate. They have been

:07:40. > :07:41.very, very aggressive in other parts of the Middle East. Why do you think

:07:42. > :07:46.they are not coming in your direction? There have been so many

:07:47. > :07:53.people and organisations and entities who have said that Jordan

:07:54. > :07:58.does not exist, historically, for 100 years. They have gone, and we

:07:59. > :08:02.are still around. But can you defend your country if ISIS attack? Is the

:08:03. > :08:08.army strong enough to head off what is a very, very large insurgency? Of

:08:09. > :08:14.course the armed forces are not only strong enough, but we are vigilant.

:08:15. > :08:18.Don't forget they have a responsibility to patrol and protect

:08:19. > :08:26.a 180 kilometre border with Iraq, a 380 kilometre border with Syria, and

:08:27. > :08:32.in the past when we were technically in a state of war with Israel we had

:08:33. > :08:37.to patrol a 600 kilometre border which we now patrol to maintain

:08:38. > :08:44.peace. I think everybody can testify that when it comes to the

:08:45. > :08:49.professionalism and the training and the high standards of the Jordan

:08:50. > :08:54.Armed Forces, that is fine, but that is not the point. Incidentally, on

:08:55. > :09:01.the Syrian border we have allowed 640,000 refugees across it while

:09:02. > :09:05.patrolling it in a very orderly way, so it's not about what Jordan can

:09:06. > :09:09.and cannot do. If it faces a threat, it will face it head on, and those

:09:10. > :09:15.who want to threaten Jordan will face the full might of Jordan

:09:16. > :09:18.defending itself. A lot of people in the Middle East are blaming the

:09:19. > :09:21.Prime Minister in Baghdad, Nouri al-Maliki, for being too sectarian

:09:22. > :09:29.and a big part of the problem. What is your view? In Jordan, we are not

:09:30. > :09:33.normally in the business of interfering in the internal affairs

:09:34. > :09:37.of other countries, but what we do say that what is happening in Syria

:09:38. > :09:40.and Iraq threatens the stability of the region and by extension, the

:09:41. > :09:46.whole world. There are even foreign fighters from your country owing

:09:47. > :09:49.back and forward. The last estimate was 500 UK fighters error reports by

:09:50. > :09:54.some security officials in the UK that it would be impossible to keep

:09:55. > :10:01.track of them -- and there are reports. But this latest report --

:10:02. > :10:04.development in Iraq is too much. It's the rise and spread of

:10:05. > :10:13.extremism because of what happened in Syria, and secondly the

:10:14. > :10:18.atmosphere in Iraq is so divisive in an ethnic and sectarian way that the

:10:19. > :10:22.conditions will just be right for something like this to happen. There

:10:23. > :10:26.are ups and downs. I believe we should have an inclusive political

:10:27. > :10:31.process that does not exclude any component of Iraqi society so we can

:10:32. > :10:35.get out of this mess. So you have to deal with your borders, you have a

:10:36. > :10:40.huge refugee crisis in the country and you have a home-grown extremist

:10:41. > :10:46.movement inside your country as well. Have you got them under

:10:47. > :10:50.control? Yes, there is freedom of speech here. I think sometimes

:10:51. > :10:53.people put one and one together and make a lot more than two when it

:10:54. > :10:59.comes to demonstrations taking place on a small scale. Given the

:11:00. > :11:02.extremely polarised politics of the Middle East, when we have the Iraq

:11:03. > :11:07.war we had people against and supporting it. When we had

:11:08. > :11:09.development in the Palestinian and Israeli problems, there are people

:11:10. > :11:15.on both sides of the divide everywhere in the world. Freedom of

:11:16. > :11:18.speech and seeing sometimes ugly images does not necessarily

:11:19. > :11:23.represent the entire country, so what we have in Jordan is a social

:11:24. > :11:27.and political cohesiveness, which, by the way, is the biggest defence

:11:28. > :11:33.against ISIS or anyone else trying to threaten us. I smiled to myself

:11:34. > :11:37.and I was passing through London as I was asked by a journalist if ISIS

:11:38. > :11:42.was already in Jordan because they had announced that they were. I said

:11:43. > :11:46.to take the journalists of the border to take a look for

:11:47. > :11:52.themselves. I sometimes people think look at the map and do not take in

:11:53. > :11:57.the quality and demographically of the country. Abu Qatada is perhaps

:11:58. > :12:00.not the most popular in Britain and he has just been released. Some

:12:01. > :12:07.people say there is a political game going on in your country, suggesting

:12:08. > :12:14.he is there to confront even more extreme voices. It is a burden of

:12:15. > :12:18.course, and we are asking for the international community to continue

:12:19. > :12:21.helping with the refugee situation, but to help host communities in

:12:22. > :12:26.Jordan rather than the camps, because only 10% of the refugees are

:12:27. > :12:32.in those camps. We have 1.4 million sitting outside Jordan. On Abu

:12:33. > :12:39.Qatada, the judiciary in Jordan is independent. We do not interfere,

:12:40. > :12:46.just like it is in your country. There was this innocence on the

:12:47. > :12:51.latest charge, but there will be other trials as well. Minister,

:12:52. > :12:53.thank you for joining us. The admirably relaxed Foreign Minister

:12:54. > :12:58.of Jordan. And with me to review the papers are

:12:59. > :13:06.Keir Starmer and Benedicte Paviot. The big story is the fallout from

:13:07. > :13:17.the John Claude Junker decision. You have chosen the Sunday Telegraph. --

:13:18. > :13:24.Juncker. The papers are full of different takes on this. I think

:13:25. > :13:27.what is clearly what Mr Cameron has managed to do is not just irritate

:13:28. > :13:31.the other EU countries, he has fought a battle that he was clearly

:13:32. > :13:35.not going to win, just a mathematics. We knew that was the

:13:36. > :13:42.case. Sometimes you have to fight a battle that you won't win. Yes, but

:13:43. > :13:45.so be it. When Jeremy Hunt comes out and very publicly, yesterday,

:13:46. > :13:48.outside of this building, talks about cowards without naming

:13:49. > :13:52.anybody, I think it's interesting when the Daily Telegraph talks about

:13:53. > :13:54.Angela Merkel changing her position and that the lady was not returning,

:13:55. > :13:58.but she had changed her position. and that the lady was not returning,

:13:59. > :14:02.but she had Possibly Mr Juncker was the wrong person, but she was going

:14:03. > :14:07.to back him. I think it is dangerous, this kind of talk. Mr

:14:08. > :14:12.Cameron has to appeal not just do his future allies in the EU. We

:14:13. > :14:15.thought it was Sweden and a few other Nordic countries, but when it

:14:16. > :14:21.came to the crunch, he only had one other country that supported him.

:14:22. > :14:26.Presumably the cowards jibe is aimed at them, and maybe Angela Merkel.

:14:27. > :14:33.Yes, and Angela Merkel will look at these newspapers. An interesting

:14:34. > :14:36.briefing came about the other day. In the backroom chats with the

:14:37. > :14:40.British government, with foreign governors, including the French

:14:41. > :14:45.government. An interesting word was pronounced, that the British

:14:46. > :14:51.conversations were not about breaking off the relationship. So

:14:52. > :14:53.there is a lot of bluster and public positioning for a domestic audience

:14:54. > :14:58.ten months away from an election, but actually one has to be very

:14:59. > :15:03.careful with this talk or Britain will walk itself into an exit very

:15:04. > :15:07.quickly. Keir. I said at the beginning, to newspapers saying that

:15:08. > :15:10.Britain is heading for the exit the Europe, more than two papers, and

:15:11. > :15:14.that is how it looks. The real battle is the one that is coming,

:15:15. > :15:16.the one for reform and the strategy adopted by the Prime Minister. It

:15:17. > :15:20.looks as though it will be the same, and that is why it is so

:15:21. > :15:25.profound. It does take us closer to exit from the EU and this is a

:15:26. > :15:29.serious issue. Personally, it probably takes the Conservative

:15:30. > :15:32.Party much closer to fracture. If they win the election and go into

:15:33. > :15:46.this referendum, with this behind them. They themselves are talking

:15:47. > :15:51.about the calm laws so that shows you how they are thinking about it.

:15:52. > :15:57.That fracture looks more and more likely. The other big story is the

:15:58. > :16:04.fallout from the Rebekah Brooks trial. It has cost ?30 million in

:16:05. > :16:09.police time, ?100 million for the trial and at no point was there a

:16:10. > :16:12.single piece of evidence linking her directly to the phone hacking.

:16:13. > :16:20.Surely this is a trial that shouldn't have happened.

:16:21. > :16:21.Observer asks the question if anything has changed. I think that

:16:22. > :16:28.is the right question. What has been exposed is widespread hacking at a

:16:29. > :16:33.high level and the question is who knew about it. Has anything really

:16:34. > :16:41.changed? The answer to that is yes. Before this trial, there was a

:16:42. > :16:50.feeling that journalists were above the law. I don't think there is that

:16:51. > :16:50.feeling any more. You would say that even though there wasn't that

:16:51. > :16:56.crucial piece of evidence linking her, it was worth it because it has

:16:57. > :17:01.changed the culture. The judge determined that there was a case to

:17:02. > :17:01.changed the culture. The judge answer, she answered it and I fully

:17:02. > :17:11.respect the verdict. We must respect that fully, but the deeper question

:17:12. > :17:16.is, is anybody above the law? You do have these profound moments in legal

:17:17. > :17:24.cases. We had it with Parliamentary expenses. It defines how we go

:17:25. > :17:30.forward. This will change... She has gone through a long, traumatic trial

:17:31. > :17:36.without a piece of evidence against her and if it is to simply change

:17:37. > :17:42.the culture, that is pretty rough on her, isn't it? No, the case was to

:17:43. > :17:47.establish watching you. You will often have cases where there is not

:17:48. > :17:51.a critical piece of evidence. There was clearly a case to answer, the

:17:52. > :17:58.judge ruled on that a number of times. She came forward and she

:17:59. > :18:02.answered. A lot of people say that News International's lawyers were

:18:03. > :18:06.the best in the business and that the state is not paying for the top

:18:07. > :18:12.dollar best in the business prosecutors to take them on. Do you

:18:13. > :18:17.think that is fair? How much public money do you spend on a really top

:18:18. > :18:23.lawyer to take on a really top lawyer in a case like this? I have

:18:24. > :18:27.seen those discussions. The Crown Prosecution Service did have a top

:18:28. > :18:38.lawyer leading the team and top lawyers within the team so I don't

:18:39. > :18:41.think this case was determined by the rates of pay or the super clever

:18:42. > :18:45.lawyers. It was determined by the jury and that is where we leave it.

:18:46. > :18:48.Let's move on to a related story on the Independent alleging that News

:18:49. > :19:01.International worth paying for the phone details of a double agent

:19:02. > :19:11.inside the IRA. Yes, and he will forgive me if I have not pronounced

:19:12. > :19:16.his name correctly, and it seems there are more questions to answer

:19:17. > :19:23.for the Murdoch group because it seems they have paid ?850 for his

:19:24. > :19:29.phone records. This seems like if there wasn't a smoking gun... This

:19:30. > :19:34.links nicely to the Rebekah Brooks story because while it is true to

:19:35. > :19:38.say there is nobody above the law, there has to be a public interest in

:19:39. > :19:45.journalists doing their business and not every transgression should be

:19:46. > :19:52.prosecuted. So there might have been a very good reason? I don't think we

:19:53. > :19:55.should lead to the position that everybody should be prosecuted

:19:56. > :20:00.because journalists do serve the public interest in what they do and

:20:01. > :20:07.that has to be preserved. I was very clear in the guidelines I issued

:20:08. > :20:12.about that. And what must be changed is the promiscuity between

:20:13. > :20:17.politicians and the media. We in the media have two ask serious questions

:20:18. > :20:21.but it is important that there be that transparent and for example

:20:22. > :20:34.some of the meetings of the Prime Minister will be known. Let's move

:20:35. > :20:50.to a politician... Ed Miliband. This is a story about John Crudas, and

:20:51. > :20:55.the Sunday Times has a tape recording of some of the comments he

:20:56. > :20:58.made last weekend. Actually it is about the tension between the

:20:59. > :21:03.long-term policy review that Labour is undertaking and the short-term

:21:04. > :21:07.policy announcements and the need for those to synchronise. It is

:21:08. > :21:12.between those who want big policy changes and those who say we need to

:21:13. > :21:19.drip out policies bit by bit and who is winning. You need both but you

:21:20. > :21:24.need to synchronise those with ten and a half months ago until the

:21:25. > :21:30.election. If Labour can synchronise that, it will be heading in the

:21:31. > :21:34.right direction. I think with ten months ago, we can expect more

:21:35. > :21:40.stories like this because the more it looks like Labour will win the

:21:41. > :21:45.election, the more we will see this sort of story. Can Ed Miliband

:21:46. > :21:52.simply ride months of personal attacks across the media? Moving

:21:53. > :21:58.away from bacon sandwiches and beyond that. Would people rather

:21:59. > :22:03.have someone who has good ideas, is strong on the real things that

:22:04. > :22:07.matter? The next general election is probably the most important one for

:22:08. > :22:12.a generation and Ed Miliband has the idea is to see that through. The

:22:13. > :22:25.bacon sandwich is neither here nor there. The important thing is how he

:22:26. > :22:31.is doing in the polls. Now onto ISIS. Yes, and it was interesting,

:22:32. > :22:38.your interview with the Jordanian minister. He was a relaxed fellow,

:22:39. > :22:44.wasn't he? Yes, I felt a strong influence of a very good British

:22:45. > :22:51.education. As cool as a cucumber. Certainly he was playing it down,

:22:52. > :22:56.saying indeed, what, all in a day's work if I quote him correctly, well

:22:57. > :23:01.it is not because these strange alliances are being made and this

:23:02. > :23:06.article in the Observer talks about these new alliances bringing old

:23:07. > :23:12.enemies together. It is interesting because it does seem to be so, Iran,

:23:13. > :23:17.the US, Shia militias, and there does seem to be some choreography

:23:18. > :23:23.for example by the Syrians coming and bombing borderlines inside

:23:24. > :23:30.Iraq. We have this situation where the Russian jets will save Baghdad,

:23:31. > :23:37.we have got Putin, the Iranians and the Iraqis all on the same side. It

:23:38. > :23:42.is not great diplomacy, is it? It is not, and when you read that this

:23:43. > :23:47.really... I mean how did it happen so quickly in this time of

:23:48. > :23:54.technology? How come we are only finding out about it now? The main

:23:55. > :24:00.base of ISIS is a Central Hospital in Aleppo. We are running out of

:24:01. > :24:07.time, let's have some jolly stories. George Clooney here. This

:24:08. > :24:15.is in the Observer, and it is about George Clooney and his partner, who

:24:16. > :24:21.was a colleague of mine. Will you be at the wedding? It is tough. I tried

:24:22. > :24:26.to persuade my wife but she was not having any of that. His partner is a

:24:27. > :24:32.fantastic international lawyer and we must not lose the woman in the

:24:33. > :24:41.story. She just wrote a book about 11 trial. Let's remember her

:24:42. > :24:46.brilliance as a lawyer. Some people might have noticed there is a slight

:24:47. > :24:51.Labour note in what you were saying. What is your future as an

:24:52. > :24:55.individual? Will you be joining the Senate of lily pot? If and when I

:24:56. > :25:02.make my decision about the future, I will make sure you are one of the

:25:03. > :25:06.first to know. One of the first? The first to know! Lots of Wimbledon to

:25:07. > :25:14.look forward to this week, that must mean rain? Over to the weather

:25:15. > :25:20.studio. Actually it doesn't have to mean rain, in fact I think we

:25:21. > :25:28.deserve some fine weather today. There will be fewer showers across

:25:29. > :25:37.the south of the UK. There is still cloud around, this area of cloud

:25:38. > :25:46.around East Yorkshire and into east Lincolnshire, and East Anglia, there

:25:47. > :25:50.is some rain here, but yesterday we had far more heavy showers around

:25:51. > :25:59.across the country. Today it is much better. Plenty of brightness to

:26:00. > :26:03.come, albeit on the hazy side. As far as tonight is concerned, chilly

:26:04. > :26:08.in the countryside, we could get temperatures down to 5 degrees in

:26:09. > :26:12.the countryside. Tomorrow I'm pleased to say another fine day on

:26:13. > :26:17.the way and the next few days are looking pretty sunny and warm,

:26:18. > :26:21.particularly across the southern half of the UK. Temperatures

:26:22. > :26:24.reaching 23, but look out for some rain heading into Devon and

:26:25. > :26:34.Cornwall. With the recovery apparently

:26:35. > :26:36.on course, unemployment falling, inflation low,

:26:37. > :26:38.is it time for a change of emphasis from the opposition?

:26:39. > :26:40.Will the cost of living crisis feel as acute by

:26:41. > :26:50.the time of the general election? Ed Balls is with me now. You are

:26:51. > :26:56.going to have to change your tone if not your policy? The European

:26:57. > :27:01.elections were a wake-up call for every party because the country were

:27:02. > :27:06.saying that you may say there is a recovery, but living standards are

:27:07. > :27:10.falling month on month and not getting better. I think out there in

:27:11. > :27:16.the country people are saying, who will deliver an economy that works

:27:17. > :27:21.for me? They are not saying George Osborne. Labour has the vision to

:27:22. > :27:26.answer that question. Unemployment is getting much lower, inflation is

:27:27. > :27:30.not a problem, you have another ten months or so before the election

:27:31. > :27:41.with consistently good economic news. You cannot say it is all

:27:42. > :27:46.terrible, can you? The living standards have been flat and

:27:47. > :27:51.stagnant for over a decade. George Osborne can say complacently my plan

:27:52. > :27:56.is working, most people are saying that just makes you completely out

:27:57. > :28:01.of touch. There is a deeper issue we have to solve, which is how to make

:28:02. > :28:05.sure if the economy is getting better how that is shared with the

:28:06. > :28:12.rest of the country. I think it is complacent to say things are going

:28:13. > :28:19.well at the moment. So John Crudas says it is the big reforms that are

:28:20. > :28:27.being parked, let's talk about some. What about your plans for the

:28:28. > :28:30.north? You are going to take what 30 billion from the central government

:28:31. > :28:35.and give it to the northern cities, is that right? Yes, I understand his

:28:36. > :28:41.frustration about a newspaper headline. We have all been in a

:28:42. > :28:48.situation where a big speech is reduced to one policy. John Crudas,

:28:49. > :28:55.with me and Ed Miliband and others, have been working on policies. One

:28:56. > :29:01.aspect of that is saying that if we are going to have jobs and growth,

:29:02. > :29:06.four fifths of the new jobs have been in London since 2010, we have

:29:07. > :29:14.got to have more devolution of power, housing spending, job skills,

:29:15. > :29:19.business support. Why is he talking about the dead hand of the Labour

:29:20. > :29:24.centre? I don't think he is because he is part of the Labour centre and

:29:25. > :29:29.we are working together on these reforms. It is always going to be

:29:30. > :29:34.frustrating... It is quite an attack on the way things are going from a

:29:35. > :29:40.frustrated man, clearly. I spoke to John a couple of days ago and he is

:29:41. > :29:44.not restricted, he is excited about policy agenda. He is frustrated

:29:45. > :29:52.about how one report gets reduced down... It is the way we live and

:29:53. > :29:55.that is how it goes. We have reports this week on long-term

:29:56. > :30:02.infrastructure spending, new manufacturing policy, big changes

:30:03. > :30:05.which are not really on George Osborne's agenda. Let's talk about

:30:06. > :30:10.one big change, last time Ed Miliband was on he said the current

:30:11. > :30:16.system of rail privatisation was not working and he is open to offers.

:30:17. > :30:23.There has been talk of creeping nationalisation, is that on your

:30:24. > :30:26.agenda? We want a more strategic approach to the railways. The fact

:30:27. > :30:32.that network rail is back on the balance sheet, that provides an

:30:33. > :30:35.opportunity. The franchising process has delivered more passenger numbers

:30:36. > :30:40.and there's been big public investment, but on the East Coast,

:30:41. > :30:44.that's a public operator who are doing a good job. Why not spread

:30:45. > :30:49.that idea? We want to say that doing a good job. Why not spread

:30:50. > :30:52.that idea? We want to this is not about nationalisation or

:30:53. > :30:56.privatisation, but let's make sure the franchising process gets the

:30:57. > :31:00.best deal for the taxpayer and passengers and on the fairs.

:31:01. > :31:04.Matching the investment with reform. I'm not going to say it's a matter

:31:05. > :31:07.of ideology that it should always be private or public, but if the East

:31:08. > :31:11.Coast line wants to bid into the process, that is a good thing. You

:31:12. > :31:15.want to see more investment in infrastructure. Andrew Adonis is

:31:16. > :31:19.behind your policy review and said you could simply take back the

:31:20. > :31:23.railway system bit by bit by not reopening the bidding process when

:31:24. > :31:27.one franchise comes to an end. As I said, I think it's a good thing for

:31:28. > :31:33.us to say in the bidding process that we are happy for private and

:31:34. > :31:38.East Coast on a fairly level playing field. I won't take an ideological

:31:39. > :31:41.approach. I don't want to go back to the nationalisation of the 70s. Some

:31:42. > :31:46.people would say that some of these franchises have operated an unfair

:31:47. > :31:51.way to consumers, and in the East Coast situation, it fail. But we

:31:52. > :31:54.won't see any great renationalisation of the railway

:31:55. > :31:58.system under Labour? I don't think people want to go to the British

:31:59. > :32:02.rail of the 1970s. That's not what I was saying. I was talking about an

:32:03. > :32:07.overall state-owned system with lots of companies inside it. There is big

:32:08. > :32:12.public investment going into a track infrastructure which is now

:32:13. > :32:15.state-owned and on the balance sheet because Network Rail is there. That

:32:16. > :32:18.investment is going in from the public sector but we want to get

:32:19. > :32:21.value for money and the best deal on fares and the passengers in the

:32:22. > :32:24.future, and the right way to do it is to say we have a competitive

:32:25. > :32:30.process, the leading playing field -- on a level playing field, but

:32:31. > :32:33.East Coast, which is currently in public ownership, or a non-private

:32:34. > :32:38.franchise, back in bid into the process, and that is a good thing.

:32:39. > :32:43.So we might seek a creeping system of effective nationalisation, but we

:32:44. > :32:46.won't talk about that. It is a national system already. Let's move

:32:47. > :32:51.to Europe, another big story. Do you think Britain is heading towards the

:32:52. > :32:54.exit door? David Cameron has told us that that is what he seems to be

:32:55. > :32:58.doing after this summit. I'm really worried about where we are. I think

:32:59. > :33:01.this weekend was a catastrophe for Britain and the British national

:33:02. > :33:07.interest. I've never seen a negotiation soap cack-handed. -- so

:33:08. > :33:12.cack-handed. But from a party who left the EVP and walked out of the

:33:13. > :33:16.summit two years ago because he was bowing to party pressure, what do

:33:17. > :33:24.you expect? We won't be influential in the world unless we are

:33:25. > :33:27.influential in Europe. So you have been the party that would have

:33:28. > :33:31.allowed Juncker's name to go forward? We would have said what was

:33:32. > :33:37.the vision for Europe, and we need reform. But that is what Cameron was

:33:38. > :33:40.saying. No, he didn't. He went into the summit and said give me

:33:41. > :33:44.something because my party demands and I need the head of Jean-Claude

:33:45. > :33:48.Juncker. People in the rest of Europe said, we won't be treated in

:33:49. > :33:52.that way. You cannot dictate to us on the basis of a party agenda.

:33:53. > :33:57.Given the Juncker is an avowed old-fashioned Federalist you can see

:33:58. > :34:00.why he did not think he would be the best man to lead the EU in the next

:34:01. > :34:05.few years, so he was right about that. Yes, and that was our view.

:34:06. > :34:08.But the issue is, why did he fail so catastrophically to persuade anybody

:34:09. > :34:12.to join him? He said that in private they were supporting him and in

:34:13. > :34:16.public they didn't. What has happened when the British Prime

:34:17. > :34:21.Minister cannot win an argument, because if he is associated with it,

:34:22. > :34:24.other people peel away? I'm not sure how you would have done it

:34:25. > :34:27.differently. We would have gone in and said we needed reform in Europe

:34:28. > :34:30.and the test that this is which candidate can deliver the reform. I

:34:31. > :34:34.don't think Jean-Claude Juncker was the best candidate. But that means

:34:35. > :34:41.you would not have demanded his head? To going that way and

:34:42. > :34:45.blackmail people. So it was about tone and tactics? The battle was

:34:46. > :34:49.right, but the way it was wrong? But it goes to the deeper point about

:34:50. > :34:54.what he is his European policy does he think we should be in Europe? I

:34:55. > :34:57.do. I think we will only be influential in the world if we are

:34:58. > :35:01.influential in Europe. He says he wants reform but he can't tell us

:35:02. > :35:04.what they are. He has set an arbitrary timetable for a referendum

:35:05. > :35:09.that everybody knows is deeply destabilising. Why has he done that?

:35:10. > :35:15.Because his European policy is not being decided by national interest,

:35:16. > :35:18.Britain's future, jobs, investment, but by Tory backbenchers. He is on

:35:19. > :35:23.the back foot and he has lost control. I think it is catastrophic

:35:24. > :35:26.Britain. Is the Labour Party going to come forward and argue more

:35:27. > :35:32.vociferously for Europe? If there's a referendum, somebody will have to

:35:33. > :35:36.take role. Labour is absolutely united. We want to stay in Europe,

:35:37. > :35:41.but we want tough reforms, on immigration rules, the CHP, the

:35:42. > :35:47.budget, but a year ago, David Cameron said he wanted to launch a

:35:48. > :35:54.pro-European campaign. 12 months on, that looks to be a complete shambles

:35:55. > :35:56.and a sham. Let's be clear, the Labour position on a referendum

:35:57. > :36:03.after the latest election is no, unless there is a huge change

:36:04. > :36:08.question any transfer of Britain to Brussels, we would have the in out

:36:09. > :36:13.referendum. Otherwise not? Setting an arbitrary timetable is deeply

:36:14. > :36:17.destabilising, bad for business and jobs and investment, and bad for

:36:18. > :36:20.Britain. The right thing to do is to argue for reforms, but we have to be

:36:21. > :36:24.listened to and we are not at the moment. We are not, but we have run

:36:25. > :36:26.out of time. Ed Balls, thank you for that.

:36:27. > :36:28.From Middle Earth to Middle England, audiences have loved

:36:29. > :36:30.Martin Freeman's portrayals of Bilbo Baggins and Dr Watson.

:36:31. > :36:33.You know him from The Office, Sherlock and perhaps most recently,

:36:34. > :36:38.Now he's back in London rehearsing for the role of a lifetime on stage:

:36:39. > :36:41.Shakespeare's villainous Richard III.

:36:42. > :36:54.You have a Richard III beard already. Do you have the hump? Not

:36:55. > :37:00.with me. There has been a huge amount of interest in ISIS because

:37:01. > :37:03.he was discovered underneath the car parking Leicester -- interesting

:37:04. > :37:08.Richard III. It turns out he did not have the hump. The Shakespeare

:37:09. > :37:12.wanted, but that is the difference between the historical thing of

:37:13. > :37:16.academic interest, but the dramatic you have to play Shakespeare's

:37:17. > :37:20.version. There's no point coming on and saying we know about the real

:37:21. > :37:24.one, so let's play that one, because that is not Shakespeare wrote. You

:37:25. > :37:29.will be hump it up. You can put it that way. It is one of those huge

:37:30. > :37:33.roles, and it's in the early stages of planning, but we have seen Kevin

:37:34. > :37:37.Spacey do a wonderful Richard III recently. How will this be

:37:38. > :37:46.different? We hear rumours about it being set in the 1970s? It is set in

:37:47. > :37:52.and around the world where if if it is to be believed, and I do believe

:37:53. > :37:57.it that there was a tentative coup planned during the Wilson government

:37:58. > :38:00.in the mid-70s. I believe enough of the documentary evidence that I've

:38:01. > :38:07.heard about that that plans were being laid. Some people were

:38:08. > :38:12.planning? Absolutely. So it is set around that time. I first met the

:38:13. > :38:14.director, Jamie Lloyd, and I don't know if you've ever seen this

:38:15. > :38:19.documentary about Wilson being overthrown. And I said I watched it

:38:20. > :38:21.last week because I spent a silly amount of time watching political

:38:22. > :38:27.documentaries on you Tube. And that was a very interesting tack to go

:38:28. > :38:33.down, I think. It was felt that in rehearsal, it might have made this

:38:34. > :38:36.centuries-old play film them, and that is because Shakespeare is a

:38:37. > :38:42.brilliant writer but it feels almost like a 70s play. You have a young

:38:43. > :38:44.director who is known for stripping out bits of Shakespeare if he thinks

:38:45. > :38:50.they are boring. Is he doing it again this time? Yes, we are,

:38:51. > :38:55.Brackley. I think Jamie has cut the play judiciously and well -- we

:38:56. > :38:58.are, frankly. There can be a conspiracy of silence amongst people

:38:59. > :39:02.going to see Shakespeare, very educated, smart people, theatre

:39:03. > :39:06.literate, who tolerate the boring bits and the boring passengers

:39:07. > :39:11.without telling anyone -- boring passengers.

:39:12. > :39:17.So you are bringing in a younger audience, presumably? We are doing

:39:18. > :39:20.it at the Trafalgar Studios, and they are hell bent on bringing in

:39:21. > :39:25.young people, people who have never been to the theatre before. Every

:39:26. > :39:30.Monday every seat in the theatre is ?15. This will be different from the

:39:31. > :39:35.classic Martin Freeman performance. I didn't know there was one. Again

:39:36. > :39:38.and again in your characters, you are cheerful, and I know you hate

:39:39. > :39:43.the phrase every man, although I did just use it. And I am sorry. Then

:39:44. > :39:46.something turns and you snap, and the inner rage comes out. But the

:39:47. > :39:52.inner rage will be there at the beginning. It is, but like with, and

:39:53. > :39:56.I don't think it's just me, any actor who plays leading characters

:39:57. > :40:01.in something, there is a reason that you have to follow that character

:40:02. > :40:05.around. Bruno Ganz, who played Hitler, in Downfall, you have to

:40:06. > :40:09.find a vulnerable person in Hitler, but he did it. If you're going to

:40:10. > :40:13.follow a character but two or three hours you need to like something

:40:14. > :40:16.about them. Shakespeare does a fantastic job of preventing the

:40:17. > :40:22.person as a villain but an attractive person to spend time

:40:23. > :40:28.with. We are attracted by the great mind? He has a great wit, and more

:40:29. > :40:32.than a twinkle in his eye. In terms of other characters, I have been

:40:33. > :40:35.watching Fargo and it really is interesting, because you turn that

:40:36. > :40:38.on and you know it is set in the midwest of America, in the snow, and

:40:39. > :40:41.there is Martin Freeman in the middle of it, but you have got a

:40:42. > :40:50.pretty good action. Let's have a little snatch of it. I'd like to

:40:51. > :40:54.report shots fired. This is a non-emergency number, you should

:40:55. > :40:58.have dialled 911. I can confirm gunshots, really loud. About ten

:40:59. > :41:05.seconds ago. It sounded like they came from inside one of the shops.

:41:06. > :41:09.OK, sure. It's great fun, Fargo, but I have to say, you are one of a huge

:41:10. > :41:13.number of British actors moving to the States, with great American

:41:14. > :41:17.voices. Do you get abuse from American actors? They might be

:41:18. > :41:24.worried that the British have taken all the roles. They might be, but

:41:25. > :41:28.they are too gracious. And for some reason there does seem to be a lot

:41:29. > :41:33.of us, and I don't know if it is we are cheap or more attuned to it. I

:41:34. > :41:38.think we are more attuned to accidents. If you grow up in

:41:39. > :41:43.Britain, with the twin things of rock 'n' roll and Hollywood you hear

:41:44. > :41:50.a lot of American voices and that is not reciprocated. They would know

:41:51. > :41:53.the difference between Liverpool, Glasgow and Newcastle. We have one

:41:54. > :41:58.huge thing to come. I know you felt emotional when you stop doing the

:41:59. > :42:02.Hobbit, but are you at the phase where you never want to see it

:42:03. > :42:06.again? I'm definitely not at that phase. I'm proud of it and proud to

:42:07. > :42:10.be part of it. It's been a huge part of the last three or four years of

:42:11. > :42:15.my life. I love doing it and I like seeing them when they come out. You

:42:16. > :42:21.made a very fine hobbit. Privilege to have you on the sofa. Richard III

:42:22. > :42:26.opens in July in the West End. As we heard from the Jordanian

:42:27. > :42:29.Foreign Minister earlier, the ISIS surge in Iraq is threatening to

:42:30. > :42:31.further inflame the region The Foreign Secretary,

:42:32. > :42:34.William Hague has just returned from Baghdad where he held crisis

:42:35. > :42:37.talks with the Iraqi government. Mr Hague joins me now from Chevening

:42:38. > :42:47.in Kent. Did you tell Nouri al-Maliki it was

:42:48. > :42:51.time to go? I said that Iraq needed a new and inclusive government, but

:42:52. > :42:55.it's absolutely vital that Shia Muslim, sunny, Kurds all work

:42:56. > :42:58.together. It's not for us to determine who is the Prime Minister

:42:59. > :43:03.of Iraq, but they need to hear it from the rest of the world that

:43:04. > :43:08.there needs to be political unity in Iraq, security operations will only

:43:09. > :43:11.work in that context. We can only have them working with strong

:43:12. > :43:16.political board from all elements in Iraq, which is why we went to talk

:43:17. > :43:21.to the Kurdish leaders, and I think there is a strong consciousness of

:43:22. > :43:26.that, but the big test will come when the Iraqi parliament meets on

:43:27. > :43:32.Tuesday of this week. In your view, is Mr Maliki the sort of person to

:43:33. > :43:38.unite Iraq? As I say, it is for us, and it would help anybody, for us to

:43:39. > :43:43.pronounce who should be primaries -- it isn't for us. There has been a

:43:44. > :43:49.failure in recent years to bring together Iraqi leaders and people

:43:50. > :43:53.out of their sectarian divisions. No one has succeeded in doing that in

:43:54. > :43:57.Iraq in the last eight years or so. So clearly they need a new more

:43:58. > :44:01.inclusive government where people have a sense of genuine

:44:02. > :44:08.partnership. They are facing a lethal threat, a mortal threat. So I

:44:09. > :44:12.really impressed on them the need for everybody to work together and

:44:13. > :44:16.the extent to which the rest of the world can help them will largely be

:44:17. > :44:21.determined by their determination to do that. What does it say for

:44:22. > :44:25.Western intervention that the Maliki government has had to rely on jets

:44:26. > :44:31.from Belarus and Russia to protect them, nothing from us at all? These

:44:32. > :44:36.are purchases you are talking about, not an intervention by Russia. These

:44:37. > :44:41.are purchases of arms from other countries. I would stress that all

:44:42. > :44:45.countries in the world have an interest in overcoming the threat

:44:46. > :44:52.from ISIS. No state on earth will benefit from the growth of these

:44:53. > :44:57.activities in Iraq and Syria, so it's very important that every

:44:58. > :45:01.nation helps in various ways, and we will help through the United Nations

:45:02. > :45:04.by putting forward proposals to make terrorist financing harder, to make

:45:05. > :45:07.it harder for them to use the economic assets they have seized and

:45:08. > :45:13.of course we want to make it harder for people to travel there as well.

:45:14. > :45:22.No British military help of any kind at all? We do have to stress their

:45:23. > :45:28.responsibility for this. I don't think it would be wise in this

:45:29. > :45:32.situation and if there is any military intervention, the United

:45:33. > :45:38.States has the best assets and capabilities to do that. I haven't

:45:39. > :45:43.discussed with any Iraqi leaders reddish intervention, I have

:45:44. > :45:48.discussed assistance with counterterrorism, expertise over the

:45:49. > :45:52.medium term, and we have been the quickest country in the world to get

:45:53. > :45:57.humanitarian aid to the people displaced by the activities of ISAL.

:45:58. > :46:02.We can help in many ways but we are not contemplating a British military

:46:03. > :46:07.intervention. There are hundreds of people coming back from Syria who

:46:08. > :46:12.are now battle hardened jihadi 's to Britain. Is there anything new we

:46:13. > :46:18.can do to stop them coming here? There is a great deal we can do and

:46:19. > :46:26.we are doing. There have already been arrests, we have confiscated

:46:27. > :46:33.passports, there will be cancelled leave to remain in this country so

:46:34. > :46:39.people should be in no doubt that we will use the full force of the law

:46:40. > :46:45.on this. Can you strip them of British nationality? We work closely

:46:46. > :46:51.with the countries in the region to identify these people. It is a vast

:46:52. > :46:57.task of course but I think that will be an ever increasing part of our

:46:58. > :47:04.counterterrorism work. Can you strip them of British nationality if they

:47:05. > :47:10.have chosen this path instead? The Home Secretary does have the power

:47:11. > :47:13.to do that. The power she has been exercising is to remove passports so

:47:14. > :47:33.far so people should be in no doubt. Let's move to the European

:47:34. > :47:41.story if we may. Anna -- Mr Juncker is a disaster for Britain, isn't he?

:47:42. > :47:46.We are heading towards the exit route. What has happened here, which

:47:47. > :47:51.is an increasing power from the European Parliament at the expense

:47:52. > :47:56.of the Council, head of government, makes the need for that even

:47:57. > :48:00.clearer. The Conservative party has a plan to do something and then

:48:01. > :48:07.consult the people in a referendum so it is the British people who will

:48:08. > :48:10.decide ultimately in a referendum provided there is a Conservative

:48:11. > :48:17.government. But the plan has two parts, first to renegotiate in EU,

:48:18. > :48:26.and it looks like that cannot and will not happen, then the second

:48:27. > :48:35.part, to get a referendum. The referendum will take us out of the

:48:36. > :48:39.EU, won't it? It is far too early to say we cannot get those reforms. The

:48:40. > :48:46.Prime Minister has acknowledged the task will be more difficult but

:48:47. > :48:51.here's the first Prime Minister to negotiate a reduction in the

:48:52. > :49:01.European budget. He vetoed the treaty three years ago, we are not

:49:02. > :49:10.threatened with these things. Again, even in the... Sorry, I don't want

:49:11. > :49:13.to talk over you. In the Council conclusions on Friday there was an

:49:14. > :49:18.acknowledgement that what has happened has got to be reviewed,

:49:19. > :49:23.that the concept of ever closer union cannot just be applied to

:49:24. > :49:30.everybody in the same way, which is an argument we have been making.

:49:31. > :49:35.These are consolation prizes after we have just lost a huge battle. Do

:49:36. > :49:42.you agree with those who say the tactics were not good? Playing the

:49:43. > :49:53.man and not the policy, making such a big thing of Juncker was a bad

:49:54. > :50:01.idea? The Prime Minister always made it very clear that the principle of

:50:02. > :50:11.how the selection was taking place, the need for reform in Europe, did

:50:12. > :50:17.we think Mr Juncker was the man to do that? No, but when it is a 90

:50:18. > :50:21.minute about principles you have to stick to your principal and

:50:22. > :50:25.everybody can now see in Europe that when the Prime Minister says he will

:50:26. > :50:30.not back down, he won't back down, he will stick to his guns. They were

:50:31. > :50:39.go into negotiations over the next couple of years knowing that. Are

:50:40. > :50:45.you worried about Mr Juncker's drinking? Having just explained that

:50:46. > :50:49.it is about principle and reform in Europe, I'm not going to go into a

:50:50. > :50:55.personal matter about him or anybody else. It is alleged in the papers

:50:56. > :50:59.that the person who introduced Andy Coulson to the top team of the

:51:00. > :51:05.Conservative party was none other than William Hague, is that true? Is

:51:06. > :51:11.he an old mate of yours, and if so what did you learn from recent

:51:12. > :51:19.events? No, I don't think that is true. I used to write a column for

:51:20. > :51:25.The News Of The World a few years ago but I don't think that is true.

:51:26. > :51:29.Sometimes you give someone a second chance in life, sometimes that turns

:51:30. > :51:34.out to be wrong, that is what happened in this case. He was a kind

:51:35. > :51:41.of friend nonetheless, do you have any sympathy for him now? I have

:51:42. > :51:45.always got sympathy for the predicament of anybody I know who

:51:46. > :51:50.has fallen into a very difficult situation brought it on themselves,

:51:51. > :51:55.but I agree with what the Prime Minister said the other day. Do you

:51:56. > :52:00.think the stickiness, if I can put it that way, of the relationship

:52:01. > :52:05.between journalists and politicians went too far and has to be

:52:06. > :52:10.rethought? I do think that on the whole, yes, and I think that has

:52:11. > :52:13.changed in the light of events over the last few years. There is a

:52:14. > :52:18.greater distance now between politicians and the press and I

:52:19. > :52:25.think that was a necessary thing, and I think that is probably

:52:26. > :52:28.healthier for our democracy. And I hate to bring up even more

:52:29. > :52:34.horrendous words but do you think Nick Clegg was perhaps write about

:52:35. > :52:37.Andy Coulson and David Cameron should have listened to Nick Clegg?

:52:38. > :52:44.I am sorry to keep using the words Nick Clegg but that is my job. Nick

:52:45. > :52:48.Clegg is the Deputy Prime Minister, that is absolutely fine! The Prime

:52:49. > :52:53.Minister apologised for this, no one could be clearer than that, he

:52:54. > :52:58.apologised unreservedly about it. He said as I said before that sometimes

:52:59. > :53:02.we give somebody a second chance, and that is always a difficult

:53:03. > :53:08.decision to make in life. Sometimes it turns out to have been a mistake.

:53:09. > :53:13.You don't need to apologise for mentioning Nick Clegg. Very briefly,

:53:14. > :53:18.are we going to leave the European Union in your lifetime? We are going

:53:19. > :53:24.to have a referendum so the truthful answer is that it is up to the

:53:25. > :53:29.British people, provided there is a Conservative government, but are

:53:30. > :53:42.objective should be... Would it be a disaster if the British people said

:53:43. > :53:47.no? This will be the debate in the referendum. I have always argued

:53:48. > :53:52.against more power going to the European Union but for us to be a

:53:53. > :53:58.member in Europe will not run by Europe. The British people will

:53:59. > :54:03.decide in a referendum if that is sustainable or not. Thank you for

:54:04. > :54:09.joining us this morning. Now the news headlines. The Foreign

:54:10. > :54:10.Secretary has warned that Western support the Iraqi government will

:54:11. > :54:19.depend on it adopting a new, more support the Iraqi government will

:54:20. > :54:20.inclusive and nonsectarian approach. William Hague said the big test

:54:21. > :54:24.would come when the Iraqi parliament meets this week. The Government in

:54:25. > :54:31.Baghdad has taken delivery of a batch of fighter jets as it to read

:54:32. > :54:37.-- we gain control of Tikrit. There are conflicting reports about who

:54:38. > :54:41.has the upper hand there. The shadow chancellor Ed Balls has

:54:42. > :54:43.told this programme he was really worried about the outcome of the

:54:44. > :54:55.summit in Brussels which ended up with David Cameron isolated and said

:54:56. > :55:01.the Prime Minister's negotiating strategy was cack-handed. The former

:55:02. > :55:05.director of public prosecutions has defended the decision to put Rebekah

:55:06. > :55:12.Brooks on trial. She was cleared of phone hacking charges. Kia Starmer

:55:13. > :55:16.told this programme that the case marked a profound moment and

:55:17. > :55:22.demonstrated that journalists are not above the law. The next News

:55:23. > :55:26.from me is on BBC One at one o'clock. First let's take a look at

:55:27. > :55:29.what is coming up immediately after the programme, before we get back to

:55:30. > :55:37.Andrew. Should Britain be proud of its

:55:38. > :55:45.history? We also asked does sport needed antiheroes? Join us at ten.

:55:46. > :55:48.the time of the general election? Now, we're in the middle of summer

:55:49. > :55:51.music festival season and one rock one rock star who's been no stranger

:55:52. > :55:54.to big stages in muddy fields over the years is Chrissie Hynde.

:55:55. > :55:57.She's playing the Latitude Festival next month and her first solo album,

:55:58. > :55:59.'Stockholm', includes some of her most famous and iconic friends.

:56:00. > :56:02.Neil Young, no less, and also the tennis champ John

:56:03. > :56:07.McEnroe, who plays a mean guitar. Welcome.

:56:08. > :56:18.Neil Young I get, John McEnroe, explain. John is a big music fan, I

:56:19. > :56:22.have known him for many years. I was in Stockholm making this record and

:56:23. > :56:31.he was doing some tennis, whatever he does over there. I said bring

:56:32. > :56:35.your lefty. He plays great. Stockholm is the new album, lots of

:56:36. > :56:41.Swedish influence, is Swedish rock about to happen? There are lots of

:56:42. > :56:48.songs we have listened to on the radio made in Sweden, yes. Just

:56:49. > :56:55.enough time left say goodbye. We will be here next Sunday on BBC One

:56:56. > :56:56.at the usual time of nine o'clock. Tennis legend Martina Navratilova

:56:57. > :56:59.will be here but now we leave you Tennis legend Martina Navratilova

:57:00. > :57:03.will be here but now we leave in the more than capable hands of another

:57:04. > :57:25.legend. This is Chrissie Hynde and House Of Cards.

:57:26. > :57:48.# You were hands-on. # I fell in love for the summertime, I came on

:57:49. > :57:56.Dom. # When the bells start to ring and

:57:57. > :58:03.chime, we are out of time. # I can't ever take myself in your

:58:04. > :58:20.house of cards. # I can't even explain myself...

:58:21. > :58:34.# never find me. I can't ever take myself in your house of cards now.

:58:35. > :58:40.# Now I lay me down to sleep. I prayed to the Lord, if I should die

:58:41. > :58:55.before I awake, I prayed to the Lord my soul he will take. God bless my

:58:56. > :59:02.grandma, and even the one who had me, he was a bad man. # I can't ever

:59:03. > :59:10.take myself in your house of cards now. # I can't even explain

:59:11. > :59:23.myself... # you will never find me...

:59:24. > :59:39.# I can't ever take myself in your house of cards now.

:59:40. > :59:42.When Barbara and I started the Review,