:00:00. > :00:07.Another bleak morning after the hideous massacre in Paris.
:00:08. > :00:12.David Cameron has told the French, "Your fight is our fight".
:00:13. > :00:15.Isis say the attack is the "First of the storm".
:00:16. > :00:35.So how long before this war reaches our streets too?
:00:36. > :00:40.I'm joined this morning by the Home Secretary, Theresa May,
:00:41. > :00:46.the Shadow Justice Secretary, Lord Falconer,
:00:47. > :00:53.and the French Ambassador to the UK, Sylvie Bermann.
:00:54. > :00:55.Joining us for our review of the papers,
:00:56. > :00:58.the BBC's security correspondent Frank Gardner,
:00:59. > :01:03.and Amol Rajan, editor of the Independent.
:01:04. > :01:08.And later on, we'll finish the show musically
:01:09. > :01:13.But first, the news with Steph McGovern.
:01:14. > :01:17.A service will be held at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris today,
:01:18. > :01:20.as France observes three days of mourning for the victims
:01:21. > :01:22.of Friday's gun and bomb attacks.
:01:23. > :01:24.As well as the 129 people who were killed,
:01:25. > :01:31.A huge police investigation is now under way stretching across Europe.
:01:32. > :01:39.Paris mourns and prepares to bury its dead.
:01:40. > :01:41.As the international investigation continues,
:01:42. > :01:46.of the terror that came to the French capital.
:01:47. > :01:58.At the Bataclan concert hall, some tried to escape the bloodshed
:01:59. > :02:02.outside by hanging out of windows. A statement posted online from the
:02:03. > :02:05.group calling itself Islamic State said what it calls its soldiers
:02:06. > :02:08.were behind the attacks. The French Prime Minister has
:02:09. > :02:11.promised an uncompromising response. TRANSLATION: Because we are at war,
:02:12. > :02:15.we need to expect after-shocks, but we will retaliate
:02:16. > :02:20.to destroy this terrorist army. has been identified
:02:21. > :02:24.by French investigators as 29-year-old Frenchman
:02:25. > :02:27.Omar Ismail Mostefai. His father and brother
:02:28. > :02:32.are being questioned by police. And a Syrian passport
:02:33. > :02:35.found at the Stade de France, linked to one
:02:36. > :02:37.of the suicide bombers, was registered to a man
:02:38. > :02:40.who Greek authorities say But Paris's chief prosecutor
:02:41. > :02:47.says many questions remain. that three co-ordinated teams
:02:48. > :02:54.were behind this act of barbarism. We have to find who these people
:02:55. > :02:57.are, who are their accomplices, who commanded them, where they came
:02:58. > :03:02.from, how they were financed. In Brussels, three men
:03:03. > :03:06.have been arrested in connection with the attacks,
:03:07. > :03:10.after a car rented in Belgium was found near
:03:11. > :03:13.the Bataclan concert hall. And the images of those who died
:03:14. > :03:16.are starting to emerge, including that of Briton
:03:17. > :03:18.Nick Alexander, who was selling merchandise
:03:19. > :03:23.for the American band on stage. The Government is warning
:03:24. > :03:27.there may be more British victims. The Home Secretary, Theresa May,
:03:28. > :03:33.will chair a second meeting of the Government's emergency Cobra
:03:34. > :03:35.committee, as European Union leaders vow to face the terror threat
:03:36. > :03:37.with ruthless determination. The events in Paris will dominate
:03:38. > :03:44.the G20 summit being held in Turkey. The French President,
:03:45. > :03:46.Francois Hollande, and will stay at home to respond
:03:47. > :03:52.to the crisis. But the host, Turkey's
:03:53. > :03:55.President Erdogan, is calling for an unprecedented international
:03:56. > :03:59.effort to unite against extremism. with possession of a knife
:04:00. > :04:04.and an air rifle, following a security alert
:04:05. > :04:06.at Gatwick Airport yesterday. 41-year-old Jerome Chauris
:04:07. > :04:10.is due in court today. with police closing
:04:11. > :04:15.the north terminal for six hours. Officers carried out
:04:16. > :04:20.a controlled explosion. The Environment Agency
:04:21. > :04:26.has issued flood warnings across the North of England and parts
:04:27. > :04:28.of Wales and southern Scotland. People in the Cumbrian towns
:04:29. > :04:31.of Kendal and Egremont have been advised
:04:32. > :04:33.to leave their homes, as hundreds of properties
:04:34. > :04:35.are threatened with flooding. In some places,
:04:36. > :04:37.a month's worth of rain has been forecast to fall
:04:38. > :04:40.in 24 hours. I'll be back with the headlines
:04:41. > :04:56.just before ten o'clock. Provides many thanks, now to the
:04:57. > :05:00.front pages of the newspapers, in a sense pointless, because there is
:05:01. > :05:06.only one story, but many things to say. The Sunday Times asking whether
:05:07. > :05:09.people have been hiding among the migrants coming to Europe. They
:05:10. > :05:13.usually have bright advertising at the top of the paper, were a lot of
:05:14. > :05:18.money to them, but they have got rid of it, a sober, serious front page,
:05:19. > :05:24.that is a wealthy newspaper for you. Three Isis terror squads launch
:05:25. > :05:29.a wave of attacks in Paris, that is the Observer. The Sunday Express,
:05:30. > :05:37.they say the ESA a are on our streets as Paris weeps. I may ask
:05:38. > :05:48.the Prime Minister -- home secretary about that. -- in the Sun, look in
:05:49. > :05:54.my eyes and die, harrowing accounts of what happened on the streets of
:05:55. > :05:58.Paris. Finally, the Sunday Telegraph, the numbers of people who
:05:59. > :06:01.have been out to Syria and come back to this country, and may be
:06:02. > :06:05.considered suspects. What we will try to do today with the three of
:06:06. > :06:08.you is go through the papers and tell people what is new, because a
:06:09. > :06:14.lot of people have seen all this on the TV and will think, what can the
:06:15. > :06:21.papers add? We are going to start with you, Amol. A nice write up in
:06:22. > :06:25.the Sunday Telegraph about the idea that two of the potential suspects
:06:26. > :06:29.came to the EU through Greece, one had a Syrian passport very near
:06:30. > :06:34.him, I think it belonged to be suspect. It raises fears that, with
:06:35. > :06:40.huge numbers of refugees coming in, 10,000 a day into Germany, there may
:06:41. > :06:45.be other suspects coming in. As recently as October. The 3rd of
:06:46. > :06:49.October, he came through a place called Leros. People are not just
:06:50. > :06:55.concerned about that, but what happens to these people when they do
:06:56. > :06:58.come in, alienate and, unemployed, second-generation immigrants are
:06:59. > :07:02.often susceptible to violence and radicalisation. So this is another
:07:03. > :07:07.front line in the war, they hit the immigrants, the refugees coming in
:07:08. > :07:12.because of what is going on in Syria. Hammer them again, make
:07:13. > :07:19.Europe more hostile. It is very easy for them, it seems, to hitch a ride
:07:20. > :07:24.and enter Europe. Does this vindicate slightly camera and was my
:07:25. > :07:30.stance on saying controlled immigration from the camps rather
:07:31. > :07:37.than the Angela Merkel... Frankie have a story, how secure up European
:07:38. > :07:43.borders are. -- Frank, you have a story. Yes, Europe's border policy
:07:44. > :07:48.faces fresh scrutiny, and one quote stands out from the Bavarian finance
:07:49. > :07:54.minister, who says the days of unchecked immigration cannot go on,
:07:55. > :07:56.Paris changes everything. There is a danger of overreacting here, but a
:07:57. > :08:01.lot of people are going to be saying, look, the idea that somebody
:08:02. > :08:04.can just drive from Belgium to France, or Germany into France with
:08:05. > :08:09.a car boot full of weapons completely unchecked is probably
:08:10. > :08:12.over, or it needs to be looked at again. Britain is slightly
:08:13. > :08:17.different, separate from this, not just because it is an island, but
:08:18. > :08:21.because it is not part of Schengen, so in security terms we are in a
:08:22. > :08:29.different place. Some people will not know what Schengen is,
:08:30. > :08:35.bizarrely! You explain. It was a commitment made over 30 years ago in
:08:36. > :08:39.Schengen in Luxembourg, I am amazed I know this... You can move from one
:08:40. > :08:44.country to another without being stopped. The rules that apply to the
:08:45. > :08:48.rest of the EU do not apply here. Leave aside the politics, in terms
:08:49. > :08:53.of arms control, it means that it is harder to get powerful automatic
:08:54. > :08:57.weapons like what has been used in Paris, it is harder to get them into
:08:58. > :09:00.the UK. Not impossible - and there are still the Northern Ireland
:09:01. > :09:04.connection - but it is much harder. It is one of the reasons why they
:09:05. > :09:11.think we have not yet faced a marauding attack, what is called a
:09:12. > :09:17.MPTA, multipronged terrorist assault. One other thing that is
:09:18. > :09:21.clear is that there were serious intelligence failures in France.
:09:22. > :09:26.Yes, in the Mail on Sunday, as Frank has mentioned, German police
:09:27. > :09:30.apparently uncovered an arsenal of weapons in a car and did not tell
:09:31. > :09:35.anti-terrorist chiefs. The heavily armed suspect was on his way to
:09:36. > :09:39.Paris. One of the terrorist was a Parisian who had been on a watchlist
:09:40. > :09:43.for five years but was not being monitored closely and enough before
:09:44. > :09:47.he took part in the attack. The Greek authorities believe, as you
:09:48. > :09:52.mentioned, one of the attackers was from Syria, posing as a refugee from
:09:53. > :09:56.Syria. And again, we have a spokeswoman for France's ruling
:09:57. > :10:01.Socialist Party, saying there was a failure of intelligence. I feel
:10:02. > :10:08.slightly sorry for the Neville is intelligence... -- nebulous. When
:10:09. > :10:13.they try to get greater powers, people say, no, it is a police
:10:14. > :10:16.state, but when something like this happens, blame is laid at their
:10:17. > :10:21.door, saying they did not do another. Up and they have to be
:10:22. > :10:26.right consistently, and they do not always get recognition for when they
:10:27. > :10:33.do it right. Frank, did the French state's powers of interception tally
:10:34. > :10:37.with ours? Or are they different? I think they are different. They have
:10:38. > :10:43.been very tough on terrorism, probably tougher than we were, since
:10:44. > :10:46.1995, because they had the first recent modern wave of terrorism in
:10:47. > :10:52.the mid 1990s with people from what was called the GIA, an Algerian
:10:53. > :10:56.militant group that carried out bombings. They were very cross with
:10:57. > :11:00.Britain that some of the people they were hunting sought refuge in
:11:01. > :11:05.Britain. At the time, Britain was a bit, well, they have not broken any
:11:06. > :11:12.laws here. In retrospect, that was a mistake, so Britain and France have
:11:13. > :11:15.been hand in glove, Britain intelligence has people embedded in
:11:16. > :11:19.French intelligence, and vice versa. The police have sent a team over
:11:20. > :11:23.yesterday to work with the French. One of the problems, Amol, as a
:11:24. > :11:29.newspaper editor, a story like this is much easier for TV, we show the
:11:30. > :11:33.moving pictures, people screaming in the streets. But one of the jobs of
:11:34. > :11:39.a newspaper on a day like this is to give readers a clear overview, and
:11:40. > :11:42.you have an example of that. Fantastic, and the story broke very
:11:43. > :11:47.late on Friday night, so lots of paper struggled to get this into
:11:48. > :11:51.Saturday's papers. A pay rise would be deserved for the guys at the Mail
:11:52. > :11:55.on Sunday, the graphics test is a fantastic spread on the anarchy that
:11:56. > :12:01.unfolded, which is a strong indication of the horror that people
:12:02. > :12:06.experienced and that it was obviously coordinated attacks. The
:12:07. > :12:12.gunmen entering at the back of the theatre, in a bar where people were
:12:13. > :12:18.drinking. There is a novel we have both read by Joseph O'Brien, the
:12:19. > :12:26.Secret Agent, and he says terrorism is to be directed against the spirit
:12:27. > :12:32.of the age. -- Josef Conrad. 9/11 was an attack against capitalism,
:12:33. > :12:37.the Twin Towers, this was an attack against the way of life, normal
:12:38. > :12:43.people on a Friday night in a restaurant, in cafes, going to a
:12:44. > :12:47.rock concert. It is how terrorism works, it plays into our minds, it
:12:48. > :12:51.could have been us, then the knock-on effect of that. Newspapers,
:12:52. > :12:56.this is where they set themselves apart from social media because
:12:57. > :13:01.social media as the immediacy of being able to talk about this but
:13:02. > :13:06.not necessarily check facts. It is perspective and... And getting it
:13:07. > :13:10.right, two stories on Friday night, what was happening on social media,
:13:11. > :13:16.instant, and then was Jeremy Corbyn calls the mainstream media, we were
:13:17. > :13:22.much slower, because we have to get our facts right! The Mail on Sunday
:13:23. > :13:26.seems to have got its facts right this morning. Then there is the
:13:27. > :13:32.question of Muslim communities in France and Belgium feeling under
:13:33. > :13:35.siege this morning. This is the dangerous thing, that they could be
:13:36. > :13:42.a backlash. When you have something like this, it can appeal to the sort
:13:43. > :13:49.of base instincts of some people who will blame an entire community or an
:13:50. > :13:54.entire religion. You know, we are at a really dangerous stage here, I
:13:55. > :13:58.think, where migrants, Muslims, anybody is going to get blamed,
:13:59. > :14:02.lumped in with these awful people who are condemned by those very
:14:03. > :14:06.communities, and I think it is just so important to make that absolutely
:14:07. > :14:13.clear, to distinguish that. Yes, the people doing these awful things are
:14:14. > :14:17.shouting Allah hu Akbar or whatever, but they are stealing from their own
:14:18. > :14:23.religion to do this, blackening its name. I have spent much of 25 years
:14:24. > :14:26.of adult life or more living amongst Muslims in the Middle East, and I
:14:27. > :14:30.have found them to be peaceful people, and I know people are going
:14:31. > :14:35.to say, that guy is so starry eyed or whatever! No, this is fact, these
:14:36. > :14:40.people have reverted it. You were shot by them as well. Some people
:14:41. > :14:43.could accuse me of having some sort of Stockholm syndrome. You get all
:14:44. > :14:51.sorts of nonsense on Twitter for that. But it is a dangerous
:14:52. > :14:54.juncture, because it is really important that society does not get
:14:55. > :14:59.polarised. There is a perception, I do not know if it is fair, that the
:15:00. > :15:03.French Muslim communities are more opinionated from all suspicious of
:15:04. > :15:04.the state than Muslim communities in Britain who are still helping the
:15:05. > :15:18.authorities. That is partly to do with planning
:15:19. > :15:30.regulations. You have the relics of the 1967 war of independence. You
:15:31. > :15:36.have a very different social and geographic structure to London. It
:15:37. > :15:43.would be great to see a mass protest by Muslims to say not in our name.
:15:44. > :15:56.Meanwhile it is about solidarity and letting life go on. Meanwhile, the
:15:57. > :16:01.sport... Yes, the unifying of sport. This football player lost a cousin
:16:02. > :16:05.while the match was going on. They have set the next match will go
:16:06. > :16:15.ahead and they are going to encourage fans to sing the French
:16:16. > :16:20.national anthem. This is the story I love the most about sport, after the
:16:21. > :16:24.match both sets of players were at the stadium and nobody knew what was
:16:25. > :16:31.going on so it was all panic and the German team were advised not to go
:16:32. > :16:36.back to their hotels, and the French team refused to leave and they all
:16:37. > :16:44.slept on mattresses. Real solidarity. I thought that was a
:16:45. > :16:54.lovely story. Let's talk about how well Britain is prepared, Frank.
:16:55. > :16:57.Which is my cue to find this. The secret war in the Sunday Mirror,
:16:58. > :17:04.basically how there are thousands of undercover operatives monitoring
:17:05. > :17:10.suspects with police on patrol and the SAS out on the streets and so
:17:11. > :17:14.on. This comes to the problem of not only the estimated 400 people who
:17:15. > :17:21.have gone out from Britain to Syria and Iraq to be with Isis and come
:17:22. > :17:27.back, but also those who are getting radicalised over the Internet, who
:17:28. > :17:31.haven't even gone out there, who are being encouraged to carry out
:17:32. > :17:36.attacks here. They cannot monitor everybody. We have more CCTV cameras
:17:37. > :17:42.in Britain than anywhere else in Europe, which is one of the reasons
:17:43. > :17:54.that keeps us slightly safer but I keep hearing warnings from the
:17:55. > :18:00.police and others. Around 400 people have come back from Syria, that's a
:18:01. > :18:03.lot of people to follow. One was known by the police and they just
:18:04. > :18:08.didn't have the resources to follow this guy. They have a triage
:18:09. > :18:14.system, and when they come back they are assessed by people from the Home
:18:15. > :18:17.Office, what sort of risk are they? There are people who are
:18:18. > :18:22.traumatised, they have seen horrible things, they made a mistake, it's
:18:23. > :18:29.back to whatever job they were doing before. Do we need to hear from
:18:30. > :18:34.them? We need them on television saying look, I've been out there, it
:18:35. > :18:44.is not as it is painted. They need to be saying that vulnerable
:18:45. > :18:51.people. Exactly. There are people who they don't have enough evidence
:18:52. > :18:56.to say this person fired an AK but we think he is radicalised, and
:18:57. > :19:01.these people are being watched round-the-clock. Finally, one of the
:19:02. > :19:04.issues here is that after Charlie Hebdo there was this great
:19:05. > :19:08.outpouring of grief but not very much changed in the world. Now we
:19:09. > :19:14.have got the French president using the word war, and the question is,
:19:15. > :19:32.is this going to be like Charlie Hebdo or like 9/11 when the world
:19:33. > :19:39.did change? Peter Hitchens is saying if you want to beat terror, you must
:19:40. > :19:42.calm down and think. There is an argument for that because otherwise
:19:43. > :19:49.you just enter into this endless cycle of violence. All of this is
:19:50. > :19:54.happening in the aftermath and the shadow cast by the Iraq war in 2003.
:19:55. > :20:00.There is a military exhaustion in the west, and a practical point that
:20:01. > :20:02.Isis is full of people who work for Saddam Hussein. Thank you, all
:20:03. > :20:12.three. We now go to the weather. Two words
:20:13. > :20:15.seems to sum it up - wet and windy. Over to Alex Deakin
:20:16. > :20:25.in the weather studio. We will deal with the wet first of
:20:26. > :20:27.all because it has been raining in Cumbria overnight and it is still
:20:28. > :20:34.raining, as this picture confirmed. We have amber warnings in place, so
:20:35. > :20:38.be prepared for further travel disruptions and continued risk of
:20:39. > :20:42.flooding because rain will keep coming through the day today. Very
:20:43. > :20:48.wet in Scotland, north-west England, parts of Wales and Northern
:20:49. > :20:55.Ireland. Not much rain getting to the east but quite blustery. Further
:20:56. > :21:01.south, windy but largely dry and pretty mild, temperatures getting to
:21:02. > :21:06.16 Celsius. Obviously not feeling that pleasant if you are stuck with
:21:07. > :21:14.the rain in Northern Ireland. There will be more to come overnight, and
:21:15. > :21:18.gusty winds as this rain pushes its way further south. It will start to
:21:19. > :21:22.turn colder, temperatures down to single figures as we start Monday
:21:23. > :21:28.morning. The week ahead promises more of that wet and windy weather.
:21:29. > :21:33.The rain over the next few days will be perhaps not as intense as it has
:21:34. > :21:38.been over the weekend, so less of a risk of further flooding problems.
:21:39. > :21:42.Come the end of the week there are signs of the first real spell of
:21:43. > :21:49.colder weather. More on the BBC weather website.
:21:50. > :21:51.You have been warned! So to Paris - a city now in
:21:52. > :21:54.mourning, under massive security, and with a huge police
:21:55. > :21:56.investigation in full swing. Emily Maitlis joins us from
:21:57. > :22:09.near the Bataclan theatre, Emily, at least one of the
:22:10. > :22:13.perpetrators was a French citizen? Yes, Omar Ismail Mostefai has been
:22:14. > :22:26.identified as a French national, he lived in the town of Chartres. It's
:22:27. > :22:32.understood he went to Syria in the winter of 2013/14 and is assumed to
:22:33. > :22:38.have joined the ranks of Isis then. The mayor of Chartres said this
:22:39. > :22:49.morning that he was known as a citizen of Chartres before then.
:22:50. > :22:53.Police knew him as a radical, they blacklisted him but he wasn't a
:22:54. > :22:57.member of any organisation that was deemed illegal here so in some
:22:58. > :23:02.senses he was on the radar and in others he was allowed to go off on
:23:03. > :23:08.his own will, found guilty but never imprisoned. We have details of two
:23:09. > :23:14.other members of the group possibly. We know that a Syrian passport was
:23:15. > :23:19.found on one of the suicide bombers in the Stade de France, and an
:23:20. > :23:23.Egyptian passport found on another. The Greek authorities have confirmed
:23:24. > :23:27.that the Syrian identity was somebody who had come through the
:23:28. > :23:31.Borders in that huge stream of migrants we have seen crossing half
:23:32. > :23:36.a million people over the course of the summer. We don't know about the
:23:37. > :23:40.Egyptian one, but clearly this will fuel fears for people who already
:23:41. > :23:45.believe we don't have enough control of our borders, we don't know who is
:23:46. > :23:49.coming into our countries, or the purposes they serve. A word of
:23:50. > :23:54.warning about that - clearly there are many false passports being used
:23:55. > :24:00.in this chaos, particularly by extremists who may want to hide
:24:01. > :24:08.their identities. We also don't know that the passport was belonging to
:24:09. > :24:13.the suicide bomber it was found on. It will out an extra layer of
:24:14. > :24:16.concern at this time to citizens and governments who feel vulnerable and
:24:17. > :24:23.shaky about what is happening across Europe. Thank you. You are standing
:24:24. > :24:29.in front of a sunlit scene in Paris. After the Charlie Hebdo massacres
:24:30. > :24:33.there were huge marches through Paris, and outpouring of Patrick is,
:24:34. > :24:39.but with the lockdown presumably that will not be case today. It
:24:40. > :24:44.feels very different here, that people have been denied that sense
:24:45. > :24:49.of communal mourning, of solidarity in grief. After Charlie Hebdo I was
:24:50. > :24:54.here and there were massive demonstrations, candles, vigils, a
:24:55. > :24:58.demonstration of defiance. Hear somebody described it to me as a
:24:59. > :25:03.sense of unfinished business. Because of the state of emergency,
:25:04. > :25:08.because of the lockdown, there is a state of panic that exists that
:25:09. > :25:12.there is more to come. Until we see that strong sense of unity, it is
:25:13. > :25:17.possible divisions can enter into society in a way that will not be
:25:18. > :25:21.welcome at all. Thank you for joining us today.
:25:22. > :25:23.British politicians have expressed solidarity with France,
:25:24. > :25:26.and the Government here has promised to do anything it can to help
:25:27. > :25:27.in the wake of the terrorist attacks.
:25:28. > :25:30.We'll hear later from the Home Secretary, Theresa May.
:25:31. > :25:32.But I'm joined now by the French Ambassador to the UK,
:25:33. > :25:38.It doesn't seem very long since we were talking in the wake of Charlie
:25:39. > :25:42.Hebdo and here we are again. I suppose the first question is
:25:43. > :25:46.whether this is another Charlie moment. There was a huge outpouring
:25:47. > :25:51.of grief, everybody expressed Ullah Daugherty and shocks but then in a
:25:52. > :26:01.sense the world returned to normal, or is this more of a 9/11 moment
:26:02. > :26:06.when the world changes? First of all, thank you for inviting me today
:26:07. > :26:10.and I would like to thank the British government and citizens for
:26:11. > :26:14.a demonstration of solidarity. The Queen wrote, the president, the
:26:15. > :26:23.prime minister talked to our president, and there is all sorts of
:26:24. > :26:30.signs of sympathy which is very important for us. While I think this
:26:31. > :26:39.is very different from the Charlie Hebdo attacks, this is more like
:26:40. > :26:44.9/11, it is an act of war. Those attacks have been coordinated and
:26:45. > :26:56.plant outside, from Isis. Your president also used the phrase "an
:26:57. > :27:01.act of war", and according to the charter an attack on one country is
:27:02. > :27:10.an attack on all countries, do you think that can be invoked? I don't
:27:11. > :27:19.know if there will be a response like this but it is different from
:27:20. > :27:23.events we knew before, since it is a terrorist organisation. We don't use
:27:24. > :27:38.the word Isis because we think it is neither is land-based, neither
:27:39. > :27:49.state, we say Deish. Let's talk about Deish, will we go to war in a
:27:50. > :27:52.new way? We are striking them not because of any ideology but because
:27:53. > :27:56.they are killers, because they are planning killers in our countries
:27:57. > :28:08.and especially in France and that is what is happening this time. Another
:28:09. > :28:13.thing your president said is that France's borders would have to be
:28:14. > :28:16.closed, and I wonder what that means, if people driving cars from
:28:17. > :28:27.Belgium into France will now be stopped and checked? It is not
:28:28. > :28:34.closed in fact but people are checked. The border checks are
:28:35. > :28:39.important for security. Is this the end of borderless Europe? If people
:28:40. > :28:43.can bring weapons in from the Balkans and drive from one end to
:28:44. > :28:47.the other, a lot of people think we have got to change the way we are
:28:48. > :28:51.doing things. We have got to strengthen our external borders and
:28:52. > :29:00.there is a lot to be done. That is also the reason why we want to have
:29:01. > :29:08.those hotspots properly working and doing the screening of people. Daesh
:29:09. > :29:13.put out this swaggering statement last night but in it they said
:29:14. > :29:19.France is the leader of the Crusader states. Because France was taking
:29:20. > :29:25.such an aggressive stance in Syria, do you think that is why Paris
:29:26. > :29:34.became a target? I don't agree with the word crusade of course. That is
:29:35. > :29:42.their word, it is their fanaticism, but it is really a war again because
:29:43. > :29:49.they are planning to kill us. They know that the US does also, but it
:29:50. > :29:55.is more difficult because it is very far away from them. Is there a
:29:56. > :29:59.concern in France about security failures? One of the people involved
:30:00. > :30:03.was known to the French security forces is a dangerous man, and we
:30:04. > :30:09.have this strange thing where the Germans picked up a car full of
:30:10. > :30:11.Kalashnikovss on its way to Paris and did not inform the French
:30:12. > :30:20.authorities. Vaping Cuiaba reinforced our
:30:21. > :30:27.security since Charlie Hebdo, and we deployed a 7000 troops. -- I think
:30:28. > :30:33.we have. But we have to increase our surveillance, we deployed 3000 extra
:30:34. > :30:37.men, and also what is important is intelligence sharing with other
:30:38. > :30:43.countries, and in particular with the UK, and it is very important,
:30:44. > :30:47.and all our ministers involved are in close contacts. But you know, we
:30:48. > :30:53.already prevented a lot of attacks, but it cannot be 100%. We will see
:30:54. > :30:57.you again at the end of the show, but can I express our condolences
:30:58. > :31:00.and solidarity? Thank you very much for coming in.
:31:01. > :31:03.Jeremy Corbyn described the Paris attacks as horrific and immoral.
:31:04. > :31:04.But he also warned against any response
:31:05. > :31:07.which could feed a cycle of violence and hatred.
:31:08. > :31:09.So how does Labour think the Government should react?
:31:10. > :31:13.I'm joined now by the Shadow Justice Secretary, Lord Falconer,
:31:14. > :31:16.who was in Cabinet at the time of the 7/7 attacks
:31:17. > :31:31.You were there at 77, what is the Government thinking about now? How
:31:32. > :31:35.does this operation work? Cobra meets, the relevant ministers get
:31:36. > :31:41.together, and people listen very closely to the security... Before,
:31:42. > :31:45.can I, on behalf of the Labour Party, express our solidarity with
:31:46. > :31:49.friends and our condolences to those who have lost loved ones and those
:31:50. > :31:54.who are injured? The stories coming out of friends are horrific, and the
:31:55. > :32:00.people who suffered yesterday and today have a life sentence, and our
:32:01. > :32:03.hearts go out to them. -- France. Your leader has taken a slightly
:32:04. > :32:07.different view to some other people on this, he decided not to make a
:32:08. > :32:11.foreign policy speech yesterday, but he released the text, and he said,
:32:12. > :32:15.for the past 14 years, Britain has been at the centre of a succession
:32:16. > :32:19.of disastrous wars that have brought devastation to large part of the
:32:20. > :32:22.Middle East, they have increased, not diminished, the threats to our
:32:23. > :32:26.own national security in the process. A lot of people will think
:32:27. > :32:31.he is absolutely dead right, do you agree with that? The foreign policy
:32:32. > :32:36.of all of the developed world has not worked. We need to think about
:32:37. > :32:41.what we do now. But I think the key message at the moment has got to be,
:32:42. > :32:45.first of all, everything has to be done to protect our citizens.
:32:46. > :32:49.Secondly, everything has to be done, and the whole Labour Party agrees
:32:50. > :32:53.with this, to bring an end to Isil. Thirdly, it has to be done in a way
:32:54. > :33:02.that involves the international community, because it can only be
:33:03. > :33:05.done by the international community as a whole. Do you think the wars in
:33:06. > :33:08.Iraq, Syria and Libya have increased diminished the danger to us? Foreign
:33:09. > :33:13.policy overall has not worked, whether or not they should have been
:33:14. > :33:16.intervention here or not there, it is very difficult to know what the
:33:17. > :33:20.right answer in relation to that is, but it is really important that the
:33:21. > :33:25.international community comes together at this particular point to
:33:26. > :33:32.deal with Isil. You have said twice that you need to defeat Isil - how?
:33:33. > :33:35.It can only be defeated by the international community as a whole,
:33:36. > :33:40.if possible through a UN sponsored process, but if not bad, the nation
:33:41. > :33:45.is coming together. A key part of that has got to be solving the Syria
:33:46. > :33:49.problem. Isil have thrived in the context of the vacuum in Syria, and
:33:50. > :33:54.there needs to be real pressure put, if it is possible, to make sure that
:33:55. > :34:01.Syrian issues are resolved as quickly as possible. You cannot take
:34:02. > :34:05.Raqqa away from Isil with a few more bombs, you will need troops of some
:34:06. > :34:08.kind on the ground. The select committees of defence and foreign
:34:09. > :34:12.affairs have been saying that simply bombing Raqqa on its own is not
:34:13. > :34:16.going to be the answer, you need a plan, and it has to deal with the
:34:17. > :34:20.Syrian issue, and there needs to be... I am not urging troops on the
:34:21. > :34:25.ground, but ultimately Isil have to be defeated, and it cannot just
:34:26. > :34:30.be... You are a lawyer, I am wondering about the invoking of
:34:31. > :34:35.Article five of the Nato treaty, an attack on France is an attack on
:34:36. > :34:41.all, do you think we could sit Nato invoking that? The Prime Minister is
:34:42. > :34:46.in Turkey talking to foreign leaders. I think Nato will be a part
:34:47. > :34:50.of it. It is much too early to say whether it is appropriate or
:34:51. > :34:55.possible to invoke article 5, but Nato will be part of the group of
:34:56. > :34:58.nations looking at it. This has been one of those cataclysmic events that
:34:59. > :35:04.will have changed a lot of people's minds about a lot of things, will it
:35:05. > :35:07.change the mood on the Labour backbenches about any forthcoming
:35:08. > :35:10.vote in the House of Commons on taking action in Syria? I think
:35:11. > :35:16.everybody is now thinking about the right thing to do, to take stock,
:35:17. > :35:20.and for the Government, they have got to talk to allies, assess how
:35:21. > :35:26.this changes things. The Russian intervention has changed things, and
:35:27. > :35:30.what is now required is a detailed plan to be put forward. I do not
:35:31. > :35:34.think anyone in the political world of UK will think that what has
:35:35. > :35:38.happened in Paris will not make people stop and think about what is
:35:39. > :35:43.the right course now. The Labour Party does not have power at the
:35:44. > :35:47.moment, but this Pope is in the hands of the Labour Party, whether
:35:48. > :35:51.the country votes to go to war in Syria or not. -- but at this vote.
:35:52. > :35:57.In that sense, the Labour Party decision on this, whether you take
:35:58. > :36:02.the Jeremy Corbyn line, a lot of people will agree with it, saying we
:36:03. > :36:06.must pull back, or you go ahead and attack Isil directly in Syria, that
:36:07. > :36:10.is in the hands of the Labour Party. It is in the hands of all the
:36:11. > :36:14.politicians of the UK. It is important we seek some degree of
:36:15. > :36:19.unity in relation to this, because the threat that Isil pose was
:36:20. > :36:24.demonstrated in France on Friday. We have got to get together as a nation
:36:25. > :36:28.and work the strongest possible. You identified 7/7 at the beginning of
:36:29. > :36:34.the interview, and the two things that come out that very strongly in
:36:35. > :36:37.my, first of all, clear political leadership shown by Tony Blair and
:36:38. > :36:41.by Ken Livingstone in relation to saying, we a to protect our people,
:36:42. > :36:48.but they were both equally determined that terrorism not divide
:36:49. > :36:52.the nation. They were both very strong in ensuring the nation did
:36:53. > :36:56.not become anti-Muslim. Unity is incredibly important. I am not clear
:36:57. > :36:59.what you think should happen, it seems that you are trying to
:37:00. > :37:04.straddle two very different views, one held by Jeremy Corbyn, saying
:37:05. > :37:08.that everything we have done in the Middle East has been a disaster, it
:37:09. > :37:13.has made us less secure, we should get out of this and leave it, and
:37:14. > :37:16.those people who say, no, we have not finished, we have to destroy
:37:17. > :37:22.Isil. You cannot take both positions. It is not elegant. Jeremy
:37:23. > :37:26.Corbyn is clear that we must do everything we possibly can to end
:37:27. > :37:31.Isil. How that is to be done is the debate that now has to be had. And
:37:32. > :37:35.we want to participate strongly in that debate. And what is your own
:37:36. > :37:41.view? Britain must talk to its international allies and see what is
:37:42. > :37:45.possible, because as you rightly said, just immediately bombing Raqqa
:37:46. > :37:50.with the UK will not be the answer. What is required is a plan that
:37:51. > :37:51.covers the whole of the Middle East but also deals with
:37:52. > :37:54.covers the whole of the Middle East situation. But
:37:55. > :37:58.covers the whole of the Middle East defeat Isil will require troops and
:37:59. > :38:03.tanks, wherever they come from, whether Iran, Russia, America or
:38:04. > :38:07.Britain or France or whatever, it cannot be done without people on the
:38:08. > :38:10.ground. It cannot be done without a major international effort, that is
:38:11. > :38:15.what needs to be looked at, and looked at as a matter of urgency. It
:38:16. > :38:21.needs to be thought out in a way that convinces the people of
:38:22. > :38:23.Britain, all of the people of Britain, not everybody, but there
:38:24. > :38:26.needs to be a consensus. Lord Falconer, thank you for joining us.
:38:27. > :38:29.Perhaps the most frightening thing about the French attacks was the
:38:30. > :38:31.scatter of targets - restaurants, bars, concerts, a sports stadium.
:38:32. > :38:34.How can we possibly defend ourselves against that range of targets?
:38:35. > :38:36.London, like Paris, is an open, bustling global city -
:38:37. > :38:38.already beginning to fill up with Christmas shoppers.
:38:39. > :38:42.where we simply have to shoulder the risk and shrug?
:38:43. > :38:47.will chair the Government's Cobra meeting this morning,
:38:48. > :38:52.but before that, she joins me. Good morning.
:38:53. > :38:59.Good morning, Andrew. First of all, the question I was asking the French
:39:00. > :39:02.ambassador is in a sense the same question, is this a moment, after
:39:03. > :39:06.Charlie Hebdo, where we expressed great grief and solidarity, but then
:39:07. > :39:11.the world did not change very much, or is this like 9/11, when things
:39:12. > :39:14.really have to change? I think our hearts are with all the French
:39:15. > :39:19.people today, and our thoughts and prayers are with all those who have
:39:20. > :39:23.lost loved ones over been injured or affected, victims of this terrible,
:39:24. > :39:26.brutal attacks that have taken place in Paris. It is, of course,
:39:27. > :39:30.important that we look at the lessons to be learned from what has
:39:31. > :39:35.happened in Paris. Of course, we all work very closely together to ensure
:39:36. > :39:41.that we can keep people safe and secure here in the UK. Our police,
:39:42. > :39:45.law-enforcement, security and intelligence agencies are constantly
:39:46. > :39:50.working, day and night, to ensure we keep people safe and secure. It
:39:51. > :39:53.seemed relatively easy to get automatic weapons and bombing vest
:39:54. > :39:59.and so forth into Paris. Is it as easy to get them into London? Well,
:40:00. > :40:04.we ensure we have checks at our borders for people coming in to the
:40:05. > :40:07.UK, but these are issues where we are always looking to see if there
:40:08. > :40:11.is more that we need to be doing in these areas. We will be looking at
:40:12. > :40:15.the lessons to be learnt from the Paris attacks, that is partly what
:40:16. > :40:20.the Cobra meeting will be about, and as things develop, as we learn more
:40:21. > :40:23.about what has happened in Paris, we need to see if there are more
:40:24. > :40:31.lessons that we need to learn in the UK. We are now at the second-highest
:40:32. > :40:34.threat level, but you have not raised it to the most severe, why is
:40:35. > :40:40.that? It is a matter for a body that is not ministers, not a decision
:40:41. > :40:43.taken by politicians. It is taken by the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre,
:40:44. > :40:48.and they have kept the threat level at severe. That means an attack is
:40:49. > :40:52.highly likely, we have been at that threat level for over a year now,
:40:53. > :40:56.and of course we operate at that threat level. We have, since the
:40:57. > :40:59.attacks took place on Friday, there has been an increased police
:41:00. > :41:08.presence on some street and at some events. Border Force have increased
:41:09. > :41:10.the checks they have been making at the border, doing more screening of
:41:11. > :41:13.freight vehicles, more checks of other vehicles as well. People going
:41:14. > :41:16.through our ports will see a greater police and Border Force presence.
:41:17. > :41:20.What would be the practical effect of raising it to the top level,
:41:21. > :41:25.which I think is critical? Well, if it is, and that means a thread is
:41:26. > :41:28.imminent, and of course these things are always based on intelligence, if
:41:29. > :41:34.it is raised to critical, that changes the level of things like the
:41:35. > :41:38.level of police presence on the streets. The Prime Minister used an
:41:39. > :41:43.interesting phrase yesterday, he said the Isis threat was evolving
:41:44. > :41:48.and changing, what does that mean? What we have seen from Daesh is that
:41:49. > :41:52.in the past there has been a focus on individuals conducting attacks,
:41:53. > :41:55.being encouraged to conduct attacks. What we have seen from the attack in
:41:56. > :42:01.Paris was a coordinated, planned attack, an attack on a larger scale.
:42:02. > :42:07.The same environment, more like the Mumbai attack, lots of individuals
:42:08. > :42:10.fanning out across the city. Since the Mumbai attack in 2008, we have
:42:11. > :42:14.been building the capability of police to react to a firearms attack
:42:15. > :42:19.or attacks of that sort. We have been increasing the ability of the
:42:20. > :42:22.emergency services to save lives in high-risk conditions. But of course,
:42:23. > :42:26.as I said earlier, as a result of what has happened in Paris, we will
:42:27. > :42:30.now review that and see if there are further lessons we need to learn.
:42:31. > :42:35.The newspapers say there are SAS on the streets of Britain, is that
:42:36. > :42:39.true? What we have done since the Mumbai attack is ensured that we
:42:40. > :42:42.have the capability, the police have the capability, they have changed
:42:43. > :42:46.their training so that they can go and deal with these incidents, and
:42:47. > :42:51.there are tried and tested arrangements in place. That sounds
:42:52. > :42:55.like a lengthy yes. There are arrangements in place to give
:42:56. > :42:58.military support. I don't comment on the particulars of any deployments,
:42:59. > :43:04.but we have arrangements in place where necessary for the police to
:43:05. > :43:07.have military support. One of the alarming aspects of this is the
:43:08. > :43:11.suggestion that at least two attackers, the killers, came through
:43:12. > :43:14.Greece pretending to be refugees. What is this going to do to our
:43:15. > :43:19.added you to borders generally? I know it is not your job as Home
:43:20. > :43:23.Secretary, but is this the end of borderless Europe? That is the
:43:24. > :43:27.Schengen arrangement that you were talking about. I think it is too
:43:28. > :43:31.early to tell. There are reports of the sort you said. We need to ensure
:43:32. > :43:36.the facts are correct when we look at this issue. We have been working
:43:37. > :43:39.with other European countries in relation to strengthening euro's
:43:40. > :43:43.external borders, which is important, but let's see how things
:43:44. > :43:47.develop and actually work on the basis of the facts, rather than
:43:48. > :43:51.speculation. I think this week is the first rather modest group of
:43:52. > :43:56.refugees arriving in this country from Syria, a lot of people will be
:43:57. > :44:00.wondering whether I could be Daesh supporters in that, have they been
:44:01. > :44:03.properly screened? Are we sure that we're not letting in, amongst the
:44:04. > :44:08.desperate and innocent who deserve our help, some really bad people? We
:44:09. > :44:14.have processes in place, two levels of screening take place. We are
:44:15. > :44:18.taking people directly from camps, working with UNHCR, who take
:44:19. > :44:22.biometrics, they look at documents, they interview people. They do their
:44:23. > :44:27.own process of screening against issues like war crimes and serious
:44:28. > :44:31.criminality. Then there is a further check that is done once people are
:44:32. > :44:35.referred to the UK, the Home Office then and takes further checks,
:44:36. > :44:40.further biometrics are taken... Everything that can be done is being
:44:41. > :44:44.done? We are checking people coming into the UK, and we are taking
:44:45. > :44:48.people directly from camps, and that means we are taking some of the most
:44:49. > :44:51.vulnerable people. One of the killers and parasport a ticket to a
:44:52. > :44:58.football match and was very stop from getting in. -- in Paris had
:44:59. > :45:03.bought a ticket to the football match. We have a game being played
:45:04. > :45:04.at Wembley between England and France, what arrangements will be
:45:05. > :45:16.made to ensure that is a safe game? The football authorities here have
:45:17. > :45:21.been talking to the French football authorities, and they are very keen
:45:22. > :45:24.the match goes ahead. Of course the police will be looking out the
:45:25. > :45:30.operation they need to put in place. The Sunday Telegraph says that 700
:45:31. > :45:39.people more or less from Britain have serious to fight Daesh, and of
:45:40. > :45:44.them 400 have come back again. Do we have the resources to follow the
:45:45. > :45:49.number of people? It is right that over 700 people have gone to Syria,
:45:50. > :45:54.and those who are returning, they are looked up on a case-by-case
:45:55. > :46:03.basis to see if action is necessary. There maybe some cases where is --
:46:04. > :46:07.it is possible to prosecute people coming back. One of the people
:46:08. > :46:10.involved in the French killings was known to French police but they
:46:11. > :46:18.didn't have the resources to follow him all the time. One of the things
:46:19. > :46:25.we have been very clear about is the resources available to us, the
:46:26. > :46:31.budget has been protected and that is important so we can be sure our
:46:32. > :46:35.agents have the resources they need to do their job. They are working
:46:36. > :46:42.tirelessly to keep us safe and secure. We know of one British
:46:43. > :46:48.casualty, there are fears there are more, can you tell me anything more
:46:49. > :46:52.about that? One British National has sadly died in this incident. We are
:46:53. > :46:58.still gathering information, we believe a handful of others have
:46:59. > :47:02.been injured as a result of these terrible incidents that have taken
:47:03. > :47:06.place. We want to make sure we get the right information before any
:47:07. > :47:11.more information has been made public, but there is one message
:47:12. > :47:15.that we see, British nationals have been caught up in this as well as
:47:16. > :47:19.French nationals. We stand shoulder to shoulder with the French in
:47:20. > :47:25.relation to this issue. We are very clear that terrorists will not win,
:47:26. > :47:29.we will defeat them. There was a real foreboding in Paris at the
:47:30. > :47:32.moment that there could be another attack around the corner, do you
:47:33. > :47:40.think British people should be going there on holiday? The advice is that
:47:41. > :47:44.yes, people are still going, but to be vigilant. It is the same message
:47:45. > :47:48.in the UK, we want people to be vigilant and if they see any
:47:49. > :47:53.suspicious individuals they should report it to the authorities. In
:47:54. > :47:57.terms of the language used yesterday, President Hollande said
:47:58. > :48:03.this is an act of war against France and David Cameron said, your fight
:48:04. > :48:08.is our fight. What does this language mean? Are we going to war
:48:09. > :48:15.with Isis in a new way? We face a real threat. But war is a very big
:48:16. > :48:23.word. We are clear about the nature of the threat, and we need to work
:48:24. > :48:26.tirelessly, and work together with the French authorities, and we have
:48:27. > :48:31.been doing for some time now. We will build on that working together
:48:32. > :48:36.to make sure we can defeat this terrible, perverted ideology that is
:48:37. > :48:40.leading to these brutal attacks. I was discussing with Lord Faulkner
:48:41. > :48:52.the suggestion that we cannot defeat Isis unless we defeat them in Syria
:48:53. > :48:55.the ground, take Raqqah back. Work much more closely with the Russians
:48:56. > :49:03.and the Iranians and have troops on the ground against Isis and crush
:49:04. > :49:07.them. The Prime Minister has been very clear that if any further
:49:08. > :49:11.action needs to be taken, it will be a matter taken to the House of
:49:12. > :49:17.Commons, but we will only go to the House of Commons if there is a
:49:18. > :49:21.consensus to move forward. So you depend on the Labour Party's debate
:49:22. > :49:27.about what to do next, in a sense? The consensus in the House of
:49:28. > :49:31.Commons is important, it is important that we are able to look
:49:32. > :49:36.at these issues across the board and make the decisions which are right.
:49:37. > :49:40.We are making decisions about how we operate in the UK to make sure our
:49:41. > :49:46.police and security and intelligence agencies have the powers they need.
:49:47. > :49:51.In a wider sense, really nothing has changed. We are in the same
:49:52. > :49:59.situation as regards to bombing or not bombing in Syria. Daesh still
:50:00. > :50:03.have their territory from which they are able to mount these attacks. Is
:50:04. > :50:09.that a proportionate response to what has happened in Paris? We
:50:10. > :50:13.should all look at our own operational responses and what we
:50:14. > :50:19.are doing within the security agencies, and we are doing exactly
:50:20. > :50:23.that in the UK. We work with the French authorities, we have a very
:50:24. > :50:28.good relationship with them, we will continue to build on that. We need
:50:29. > :50:31.also to make sure the investigation develops. It is an ongoing
:50:32. > :50:36.investigation into what has happened, so we can identify more of
:50:37. > :50:40.what has happened in relation to this, and then decide how we respond
:50:41. > :50:51.to that, whether we need to change our operational response. A lot of
:50:52. > :50:56.people will have seen absolute chaos in Europe over the refugee crisis
:50:57. > :50:59.and great arguments about the borders, arguments between European
:51:00. > :51:06.countries, now they see the attack in Paris. At a visceral level, they
:51:07. > :51:10.will be thinking, do you know what, that continent is in turmoil and
:51:11. > :51:17.chaos and we would be much better and safer out of the whole thing. Is
:51:18. > :51:25.there an underlying anti-EU sentiments simmering as a result of
:51:26. > :51:32.what is going on? No, I think we have been making sure we can work
:51:33. > :51:36.together to break the link for economic migrants coming through
:51:37. > :51:40.into Europe and getting settlement in Europe. We are working together
:51:41. > :51:49.on that, and indeed the Prime Minister and I work in the Malton
:51:50. > :51:55.Summit last week talking about how we can break that link. You don't
:51:56. > :52:00.think this is beginning to look like a system out of control? We need to
:52:01. > :52:05.make sure we are taking the steps that break that link, that we are
:52:06. > :52:09.strengthening Europe's external borders, and the UK will be playing
:52:10. > :52:14.its part in that. We need to return illegal migrants to their countries
:52:15. > :52:17.of origin, and show people that making this journey to Europe does
:52:18. > :52:23.not mean they will be able to settle in Europe. Again, a lot of people
:52:24. > :52:28.watching will be thinking, how scared should I be? Should I attend
:52:29. > :52:34.the big theatres I was going to do, should I attend football matches?
:52:35. > :52:40.How real is the threat? The threat is severe. As the Prime Minister
:52:41. > :52:45.said yesterday, people should be alert but not alarmed. The
:52:46. > :52:51.intelligence agencies and police work tirelessly to keep us safe and
:52:52. > :52:57.secure, but I thought the response of the French people over the
:52:58. > :53:00.weekend to these terrible attacks was heartening. They have been
:53:01. > :53:05.opening their doors to give people places of safety, queueing up to
:53:06. > :53:08.give blood. They have shown the world this will not defeat them, we
:53:09. > :53:13.stand in solidarity with them and will not be defeated by the
:53:14. > :53:15.terrorists. Home Secretary, for now, thank you for joining us.
:53:16. > :53:17.Now over to Steph for the news headlines.
:53:18. > :53:29.France has become -- begun three days of national mourning after the
:53:30. > :53:33.attacks in Paris. The state of emergency remains in place and a
:53:34. > :53:37.huge police investigation is under way, with details beginning to
:53:38. > :53:45.emerge about the perpetrators. The French ambassador to the UK said
:53:46. > :53:51.security had to be reinforced. We have got to increase that of course,
:53:52. > :53:56.we deployed 3000 extra men, and also what is important is intelligence
:53:57. > :54:00.sharing with other countries and in particular with the UK, and it is
:54:01. > :54:04.very important, and all our ministers involved are in close
:54:05. > :54:09.contact. But you know we already prevented a lot of attacks but it
:54:10. > :54:12.cannot be 100%. The Home Secretary said the
:54:13. > :54:16.authorities here would review security arrangements in the light
:54:17. > :54:21.of the Paris attacks and see if there were any lessons to be
:54:22. > :54:23.learned. Theresa May confirmed there would be increased checks at borders
:54:24. > :54:33.and increased police on the streets. She said the UK had increased the
:54:34. > :54:37.police and intelligence services to respond to the attacks.
:54:38. > :54:42.Let's have a look at what is coming up after this programme.
:54:43. > :54:49.The Government is reviewing the threat here, how should Britain
:54:50. > :54:54.react? More than 2 million adults in England are said to be dependent on
:54:55. > :54:59.drugs and alcohol, but addiction is fiction, so says analyst Peter
:55:00. > :55:02.Hitchens. And performance from the priests who have become Internet
:55:03. > :55:10.sensations. The Home Secretary is still with me
:55:11. > :55:16.and we are joined by Sylvie Bermann. We were hearing from Paris that the
:55:17. > :55:22.great demonstrations after the Charlie Hebdo attacks were not
:55:23. > :55:26.possible this time. I was wondering if we would seek demonstrations in
:55:27. > :55:31.Britain instead because there was a big demonstration in Trafalgar
:55:32. > :55:35.Square last time. Absolutely, but I would say even in Paris there were
:55:36. > :55:42.signs of solidarity because people were queueing up to give their blood
:55:43. > :55:47.and if it is impossible to demonstrate, I think there is some
:55:48. > :55:52.emotion. But here in this country we are very grateful also to the Mayor
:55:53. > :55:58.of London because he decided to illuminate iconic monuments, and
:55:59. > :56:06.around the world, and the reason why is because it was done during
:56:07. > :56:11.Charlie Hebdo attacks. Now it is all around the world. It must make a
:56:12. > :56:18.difference to people in Paris sitting and watching. The last time
:56:19. > :56:21.you were here, you made an appeal to Muslim communities in Britain to
:56:22. > :56:28.work with the authorities to make sure you knew about people showing
:56:29. > :56:35.signs of concern. Did that have an effect? We have seen increasing
:56:36. > :56:38.numbers of reports coming through to the police, but the vast majority of
:56:39. > :56:42.Muslims in this country and elsewhere around the world will be
:56:43. > :56:47.saying these attacks are not in my name. This is a perverted ideology
:56:48. > :56:53.that leads to these terrible terrorist attacks from taking place.
:56:54. > :56:57.We have looked at working with people in Muslim communities in the
:56:58. > :57:02.UK to promote the values that we share and the values we share with
:57:03. > :57:08.French people. Thank you, both, very much indeed.
:57:09. > :57:10.That's all we have time for this morning.
:57:11. > :57:14.But we leave you now with a musical tribute to the people of Paris.
:57:15. > :57:17.The French bass Nicolas Courjal is performing in the Royal Opera House
:57:18. > :57:18.production of Carmen in London and joins us.
:57:19. > :59:06.'..Viking, North Utsire, South Utsire, East Forties,
:59:07. > :59:11.'southeasterly four or five, increasing six or seven,