:00:00. > :00:09.In the middle of a security crisis as the
:00:10. > :00:11.Prime Minister prepares his war plan for Syria, can his Chancellor any
:00:12. > :00:42.After suffering that dramtic defeat over tax credits, George Osborne
:00:43. > :00:44.joins me this morning with fresh plans for British rearmament.
:00:45. > :00:47.Plus, after a rough week for Labour, the Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell
:00:48. > :00:57.makes the case for no austerity and no British attacks on Syria.
:00:58. > :00:59.In other news, I have been asking movie legend Tom Hanks
:01:00. > :01:05.if he might ever trade in Hollywood stardom for Washington politics.
:01:06. > :01:08.Politics is show business for people who are unemployed!
:01:09. > :01:12.I'm still getting jobs at what I'm doing right now.
:01:13. > :01:24.And what happens when a great record producer swaps
:01:25. > :01:40.And reviewing the papers, one of the most important pollsters in
:01:41. > :01:43.American politics, Stan Greenberg, star economist Stephanie Flanders
:01:44. > :01:46.and influential online commentator Paul Waugh of the Huffington Post.
:01:47. > :01:49.But first the news with Roger Johnson.
:01:50. > :01:53.The authorities in Belgium will decide today
:01:54. > :01:56.whether Brussels should remain on its highest state of alert,
:01:57. > :01:59.after warnings that a Paris-style attack could be imminent.
:02:00. > :02:02.The city was a base for the attackers who killed 130
:02:03. > :02:07.Last night, police and soldiers were patrolling the
:02:08. > :02:14.There is one thing missing from Brussels at the moment, people.
:02:15. > :02:17.These streets would normally have been packed with drinkers
:02:18. > :02:23.Altogether, more than a thousand soldiers have
:02:24. > :02:26.been drafted in, the numbers doubling as people are advised to
:02:27. > :02:33.Brussels is trying to avoid a repeat of the Paris killings.
:02:34. > :02:36.The government here says it has had information relating to
:02:37. > :02:40.a possible future attack in which a number of individuals armed with
:02:41. > :02:43.weapons and explosives would strike, maybe at several places at a time.
:02:44. > :02:48.The threat level - serious and imminent.
:02:49. > :02:51.There are reports that one of the suspects in the French attacks,
:02:52. > :02:58.Parts of the transport network are suspended
:02:59. > :03:01.These passengers arriving from London.
:03:02. > :03:04.We just want to go to be safe at home...
:03:05. > :03:09.Even the police is there, we feel unsafe.
:03:10. > :03:12.The Belgian Prime Minister, security services and police will look again
:03:13. > :03:14.at the highest state of alert when they meet this afternoon.
:03:15. > :03:17.People here may be able to cope with a quiet weekend
:03:18. > :03:20.but tomorrow this European capital has to wake up and work.
:03:21. > :03:32.David Cameron will set out his strategy
:03:33. > :03:34.for tackling the so called Islamic State group this week, including
:03:35. > :03:36.proposals for military action in Syria.
:03:37. > :03:39.He's due to respond to a report from a cross-party committee
:03:40. > :03:41.of MPs, which said the UK should not launch airstrikes
:03:42. > :03:46.without a coherent international strategy for defeating IS.
:03:47. > :03:48.President Obama has said the US and its allies will not relent
:03:49. > :03:55.Speaking at a summit of South East Asian nations
:03:56. > :03:58.in Malaysia, he said the US would continue to lead a global movement
:03:59. > :04:02.against the extremists and what he called their twisted ideology.
:04:03. > :04:06.Police in New Zealand have named the four British people killed
:04:07. > :04:10.when a helicopter crashed in the country's South Island yesterday.
:04:11. > :04:12.Andrew Virco and his partner Katharine Walker from
:04:13. > :04:15.Cambridge, and Nigel and Cynthia Charlton from Hampshire were amongst
:04:16. > :04:20.the seven who died when the aircraft came down on the Fox Glacier.
:04:21. > :04:23.The Chancellor, George Osborne, is expected to outline plans to
:04:24. > :04:25.address big differences in school funding across England
:04:26. > :04:29.when he reveals government spending plans on Wednesday.
:04:30. > :04:31.At the moment, schools in some areas get significantly less
:04:32. > :04:37.In some cases the difference can be up to ?2,000.
:04:38. > :04:40.A new funding formula is expected to set a national rate that every
:04:41. > :04:42.school will get for each student, with extra money
:04:43. > :04:49.I'll be back with the headlines just before ten o'clock.
:04:50. > :05:03.If you want some kind of measurement of how strange this week is, this is
:05:04. > :05:08.the front page of the Sunday Telegraph with a tiny story which
:05:09. > :05:13.simply says, the Autumn Statement is to contain the most dramatic cuts
:05:14. > :05:17.ever. In another week that will be the headline but what are they?
:05:18. > :05:24.Britain prepares for war. It is the Cameron plan. The Sunday Times has
:05:25. > :05:35.the same. The observer puts the stories together cleverly. Security
:05:36. > :05:44.chiefs want more armed officers and fewer cuts, unsurprisingly.
:05:45. > :05:53.That sounds a bit like winning the First World War by Christmas. Thank
:05:54. > :06:00.you to my paper reviewers, who is kicking off? The Sunday Times, the
:06:01. > :06:03.splice is the big story, the Chancellor will be throwing around
:06:04. > :06:07.back and figures but the only none of that matters for David Cameron is
:06:08. > :06:12.the number of Labour MPs who will vote for military action in Syria.
:06:13. > :06:15.The Sunday Times has a stirring quote from the Prime Minister that
:06:16. > :06:21.he wants Britain to start behaving like Churchill and not Chamberlain.
:06:22. > :06:23.And some detail, crucially, the government will respond to the
:06:24. > :06:28.foreign affairs select committee report on Syria with a 5 point plan
:06:29. > :06:32.including how we will have the legal basis for going to war and also some
:06:33. > :06:37.of the detail on the military and that is pretty significant. Clearly
:06:38. > :06:41.for the country. But it looks like the government is spraying out huge
:06:42. > :06:44.amounts of money on defence including many more jets for the new
:06:45. > :06:50.aircraft carriers and more armed police and so forth. That's
:06:51. > :06:54.certainly the case. When it comes to the parliamentary arithmetic they
:06:55. > :07:01.will go through this week, the Labour Party Boss role will be
:07:02. > :07:06.crucial. -- the Labour Party's role. There is a quote from Tom Watson. It
:07:07. > :07:09.is for the Shadow Cabinet to make a final collective decision on the
:07:10. > :07:15.issue as well as our whipping arrangements. The Labour Party has
:07:16. > :07:19.this problem about what to do on Syria. I think we need to explain
:07:20. > :07:24.the situation. Originally we thought that, like John McDonnell, Jeremy
:07:25. > :07:27.Corbyn would be in favour of Labour MPs leaving it to their own
:07:28. > :07:31.consciences as to decide whether they are in favour of war in Syria
:07:32. > :07:34.or not but now he has that that they're going to vote against the
:07:35. > :07:38.government and you have to do the same. The significance is that it is
:07:39. > :07:45.not really up to the leader to say that. What happened on Friday, the
:07:46. > :07:48.UN Security Council resolution has changed the situation. People like
:07:49. > :07:55.Hilary Benn and Tom Watson who work at height him, but they do want to
:07:56. > :08:00.take action but Jeremy Corbyn has this enormous mandate from his party
:08:01. > :08:04.members. I am sure to McDonnell will refer to it. Those members on that
:08:05. > :08:10.kingdom they remember Iraq and all the convocation is -- not that keen.
:08:11. > :08:15.Jeremy Corbyn could be overruled by his own Shadow Cabinet which would
:08:16. > :08:20.be an embarrassing at Thursday the least. You are a man of the left,
:08:21. > :08:28.give us an overview from your side of the pond. The Labour Party
:08:29. > :08:33.clearly after this last leadership election is in a weaker position, we
:08:34. > :08:41.have seen polls even in the papers today where the leader is not in a
:08:42. > :08:45.stronger position. Labour has not addressed fundamental questions on
:08:46. > :08:48.immigration and spending and a real economic offer the people can trust.
:08:49. > :08:53.You come into these kind of decisions about the spending review
:08:54. > :08:59.and Syria with a public not very confident. A friendly but uncertain
:09:00. > :09:04.view. The spending review again is the big news. And as you mentioned,
:09:05. > :09:11.we would normally be focusing just on this. But on this key point of
:09:12. > :09:15.security and cuts for the Home Office, the issues come together and
:09:16. > :09:21.it has put a lot of pressure on the Chancellor. As you mentioned, you
:09:22. > :09:26.have the security chiefs issuing a stark private warning to the
:09:27. > :09:29.government that Britain's counterterror forces need to be
:09:30. > :09:33.significantly boosted, let alone the cuts that have been talked about.
:09:34. > :09:38.George Osborne has made this problem for himself not just by having quite
:09:39. > :09:46.ambitious targets for a budget surplus. But the fact that these
:09:47. > :09:51.cuts, which might be manageable across the whole of government
:09:52. > :09:55.spending, it has come down to 45 departments of which the Home Office
:09:56. > :10:02.is one, which will take maybe 30 or 40% cuts. That McGrath for or five
:10:03. > :10:09.departments -- four or five departments. Theresa May is a
:10:10. > :10:13.formidable opponent. Even yesterday afternoon she was said to be still
:10:14. > :10:17.refusing his demand for double digit cuts to the police. The reason the
:10:18. > :10:20.police numbers have infected this debate is obviously because of Paris
:10:21. > :10:26.and a lot of warnings that we are reducing our capability if we cut
:10:27. > :10:30.front line. A lot of the narrative the Chancellor has had about the
:10:31. > :10:36.economy and why the UK has done well recently involves things like our
:10:37. > :10:41.position in research and development, the digital economy.
:10:42. > :10:45.The Sunday Times suggests we will seek support for industry in those
:10:46. > :10:52.areas slashed. It makes it harder for him to make that case. I am a
:10:53. > :11:01.bit sick but I have read reams about how the books are balancing or not
:11:02. > :11:06.-- a bit thick. It is an overview of how bad things are or not. By the
:11:07. > :11:11.standards of the last few years, I don't think you are going to see a
:11:12. > :11:19.massive hole reveal itself in the budget. I heard about ?815 billion
:11:20. > :11:28.overshoot. It's not very long since the start of the year. -- a ?15
:11:29. > :11:33.billion overshoot. We may have some slippage on borrowing. The bigger
:11:34. > :11:37.problem is you had that big hole in his plans for welfare cuts blown by
:11:38. > :11:42.the House of Lords and he has to find someone else to find those were
:11:43. > :11:47.the cuts, tax credits for working people, that could cause some
:11:48. > :11:51.trouble and it may mean he has two lower that surplus target for the
:11:52. > :11:59.end of the Parliament. And you have picked a story on that subject...
:12:00. > :12:06.That was one of the key things, highlighting in the Sunday Times,
:12:07. > :12:08.this point, he has several billion he may have to find that he was
:12:09. > :12:15.hoping to get in cutting tax credits. Some of those forecasting
:12:16. > :12:18.changes, even at lower interest rates for longer than we thought,
:12:19. > :12:24.some of those things could help him but this is a tough time and he is
:12:25. > :12:27.narrowing the cuts to a small proportion of departments which
:12:28. > :12:35.means the pain for them is very great. You have a story from the
:12:36. > :12:44.Sunday Telegraph. I do. This says that Enoch Powell was right, which
:12:45. > :12:51.brings us back. This was written by Enoch Powell's I prefer. He is
:12:52. > :12:54.writing about multiculturalism and the dangers of it taking hold in
:12:55. > :13:02.Britain and how that in fights everything we're watching. -- Enoch
:13:03. > :13:06.Powell's biographer. It says you have the get serious about borders.
:13:07. > :13:12.Is that hardline message ringing out across America at the same time? It
:13:13. > :13:19.is in the Republican party and it is important in America. There is a
:13:20. > :13:23.story about Donald Trump talking about registering Muslims. He
:13:24. > :13:28.actually wants every Aslam in America to be registered, like the
:13:29. > :13:38.Jews in Nazi Germany -- every Muslim. You should know it is not
:13:39. > :13:42.America. In your new book you argue that America's liberal traditions,
:13:43. > :13:47.as embodied in this case by Hillary Clinton, will be triumphant in the
:13:48. > :13:52.next decade or two. I think we are at a tipping point right now, a huge
:13:53. > :13:56.growth in diversity and acceptance of multiculturalism, belief that the
:13:57. > :13:59.country is better off being diverse with an immigrant population, the
:14:00. > :14:09.opposite of what the most companies saying. It is an acid moment for
:14:10. > :14:15.these Western democracies. -- the opposite of what Donald Trump is
:14:16. > :14:18.saying. A lot of European countries are saying their borders have to be
:14:19. > :14:24.closed, if they can carry on with Schengen or is that dream over? For
:14:25. > :14:30.the UK is investing in the lead up to the referendum. There is an
:14:31. > :14:37.article on a former police chief saying that it would be harder to
:14:38. > :14:41.tackle terrorism if we left the EU and for us, the importance of
:14:42. > :14:45.collaboration with the rest of the EU comes through and make a fact
:14:46. > :14:50.that referendum campaign in ways that we don't predict. In this fear
:14:51. > :14:54.that open borders, particularly in the Schengen area, are helping
:14:55. > :14:59.terrorists come in, whether true or not, is putting enormous pressure on
:15:00. > :15:05.support for integration. I have heard so many different opinions
:15:06. > :15:08.from people around Europe who are divided on how important Schengen is
:15:09. > :15:09.and whether it is something that has to give in order to reassure people
:15:10. > :15:19.that the EU can protect them. George Osborne has given an
:15:20. > :15:25.interview to the Observer which is looking very kind of presidential or
:15:26. > :15:30.something. Yes we have the Sunday Times and the Observer all over the
:15:31. > :15:34.place this morning, he has done articles for other newspapers as
:15:35. > :15:39.well. We have been talking about the stature of George Osborne rising,
:15:40. > :15:42.talking more about national security. This week he will be
:15:43. > :15:46.talking about national security which you would consider, for
:15:47. > :15:50.someone who is a premised in waiting, that sounds great. But if
:15:51. > :15:55.he is talking about cuts at the same time it makes a difficult week. He
:15:56. > :15:58.in particular is under pressure because he was the great guru of the
:15:59. > :16:04.election campaign and then the wheels came off with the House of
:16:05. > :16:07.Lords vote. Very much so, George Osborne, his next aim over the next
:16:08. > :16:14.five years is to present himself as prime ministerial. When it comes to
:16:15. > :16:25.big issues, he is doing little bolding blocks -- building blocks.
:16:26. > :16:30.The problem is we have a good old-fashioned Tory sleaze story. I
:16:31. > :16:38.want to talk about that in a moment but there is a poll which shows that
:16:39. > :16:44.George Osborne is quite unpopular. Yes, we don't have it but he has a
:16:45. > :16:53.-18 rating in the favourability index. Jeremy Corbyn has gone down
:16:54. > :16:59.to -28. In the calculus of the Tory leadership, Boris Johnson is plus
:17:00. > :17:08.17, Theresa May is minus Thoirs. -- -4-mac. A lot of people would think
:17:09. > :17:12.war and peace and the economy and cuts matter a lot but in a lot of
:17:13. > :17:18.the newspapers it's the so-called Tatler Tory, an old-fashioned Tory
:17:19. > :17:25.six scandal, it brings us back to the 90s and makes my eyes mist they
:17:26. > :17:41.witnessed Alger. It is a classic story. -- makes my eyes mist day
:17:42. > :17:51.with nostalgia. The mail on Sunday have more detail today about having
:17:52. > :17:56.six on double tables. The impact from the taxpayer, the Sunday Times
:17:57. > :18:01.have a separate line which is the man who was allegedly blackmailed
:18:02. > :18:06.about having an affair with an mistress used taxpayers money to
:18:07. > :18:10.claim expenses on his London trysts. Most of us would not clear
:18:11. > :18:15.about that but the Sunday Times points out a great quote from the
:18:16. > :18:21.independent parliamentary standards authority saying, we just pay for
:18:22. > :18:27.the room, it is up to MPs what they do with it! I think that is
:18:28. > :18:31.brilliant. Fantastic, I always like to leave the paper review on a
:18:32. > :18:33.morally uplifting note! Thank you very much.
:18:34. > :18:35.And now to the weather - it's been properly cold for many
:18:36. > :18:39.Can we expect more frosty mornings over the coming week?
:18:40. > :18:44.Peter Gibbs is in the weather studio.
:18:45. > :18:50.Here is a clue, tomorrow morning looks pretty frosty for most of us,
:18:51. > :18:52.it was exceptionally frosty this morning, the coldest morning we have
:18:53. > :19:05.had for quite some time. Cold nights mean clear skies by day,
:19:06. > :19:08.a lot of sunshine to come. A few showers across western Wales and
:19:09. > :19:12.South West England but increasingly down the Eastern side we will see
:19:13. > :19:21.showers leading of the North Sea. Still a pretty chilly breeze. It
:19:22. > :19:25.will feel a bit less cold with the wind is being lighter. Here comes
:19:26. > :19:31.the frost through this evening and overnight with clear skies and light
:19:32. > :19:35.winds dropping away to -5, -6 in rural spots. Towns and cities close
:19:36. > :19:39.to or just below freezing overnight. Temperatures will start
:19:40. > :19:44.to rise later on across Scotland and Northern Ireland. As the wind picks
:19:45. > :19:48.up the cloud feeds in followed by outbreaks of rain. Wet day ahead for
:19:49. > :19:52.Scotland and Northern Ireland, England and Wales after a frosty
:19:53. > :19:58.start getting bright and crisp weather. The rain will eventually
:19:59. > :20:04.push in. Highs of around 6 degrees but it will turn milder through the
:20:05. > :20:06.second half of the week. It is not that winter is coming,
:20:07. > :20:09.winter has come! Sometimes it looks as if Jeremy
:20:10. > :20:12.Corbyn doesn't have many friends But there's one man who stands
:20:13. > :20:16.absolutely shoulder to shoulder with his leader, the Shadow Chancellor,
:20:17. > :20:18.John McDonnell. This week's autumn statement sees
:20:19. > :20:20.his first big set piece He believes he has
:20:21. > :20:32.a water tight alternative to Before we talk about that we must
:20:33. > :20:36.talk about Syria. The Labour Party has been asking for a proper
:20:37. > :20:41.comprehensive plan involving all sides. We seem to have that from the
:20:42. > :20:46.United Nations so is the Labour Party going to be backing strikes in
:20:47. > :20:53.Syria by Britain? We will see what the plan is from the Prime Minister.
:20:54. > :20:57.Let me explain my position, I think we have to come at this in a very
:20:58. > :21:01.considered way on the basis of the experience we have had so far, this
:21:02. > :21:05.is not like the Second World War where you fight against an enemy on
:21:06. > :21:13.one terrain, you defeat them, they sign a peace treaty and that is it.
:21:14. > :21:16.I think Isil are encouraging the UK and the United States to get
:21:17. > :21:20.involved in a war again because it plays to the narrative of Crusader
:21:21. > :21:25.invasion. If we did defeat Isil in some form they have another army and
:21:26. > :21:29.we have seen it is located in most of our capital cities so we have to
:21:30. > :21:35.be clever with how we address this. My view on that is that actually on
:21:36. > :21:38.the ground Isil has to be defeated by the regional powers within the
:21:39. > :21:44.middle east and by the people in the Middle East. The same way the Sunni
:21:45. > :21:49.tribes defeated Al-Qaeda in Iraq. In the end so long as they have
:21:50. > :21:53.territory they control and can plan their attacks on the west we have no
:21:54. > :21:59.security they they have to be defeated in Syria. And that will
:22:00. > :22:03.require troops on the ground and I listened carefully to the defensive
:22:04. > :22:07.chair of the Defence Select Committee and his view was clear, if
:22:08. > :22:11.there are going to be troops on the ground they have to come from the
:22:12. > :22:15.region itself. Then we entered the narrative that it is a Crusader
:22:16. > :22:23.invasion by the UK, the US or others. I think that's the most
:22:24. > :22:28.long-term security we can get. David Cameron says that shows you people
:22:29. > :22:36.are Chamberlain not Churchill. We have to get away from that rhetoric.
:22:37. > :22:40.We have to be more sophisticated than that. We have to consider our
:22:41. > :22:45.experience in the Middle East and we have to come to it as a whole House
:22:46. > :22:49.of Commons, put aside party advantage. David Cameron will come
:22:50. > :22:55.with his plan and there is confusion as how Labour MPs are expected to
:22:56. > :23:06.react. Like you, your leader was in favour of a free vote but now wants
:23:07. > :23:13.a whip to vote. We have not said that. We will come to a considered
:23:14. > :23:17.view. My view has always been that I think Parliament should act as
:23:18. > :23:21.Parliament, not on a party political basis and we should arrive at our
:23:22. > :23:27.view in the best interests of the country. Is Tom Watson correct when
:23:28. > :23:33.he says this is a decision which will be taken by the Shadow Cabinet?
:23:34. > :23:38.That is part of our democratic process within the party, I am
:23:39. > :23:42.hoping, I went to Iraq and Afghanistan, I have been in
:23:43. > :23:46.Parliament 18 years when many wars and decisions have been taken, this
:23:47. > :23:51.is the most serious then you can do because people can lose their lives.
:23:52. > :23:53.I am hoping we can act as one, put aside party differences and look at
:23:54. > :23:58.the long-term interests of the country. You have said in the past
:23:59. > :24:02.clearly that you regard Tony Blair as a war criminal who should be sent
:24:03. > :24:09.to the Hague for war crimes, is that still your view? I was angry about
:24:10. > :24:13.Iraq and what happens and we will see what happens with the Chilcott
:24:14. > :24:16.report. I believe we have do learn from the mistakes of Iraq which
:24:17. > :24:24.means we need full legality on what we do. I was wondering perhaps this
:24:25. > :24:28.is cheeky, if at the Cenotaph your leader should have given a citizens
:24:29. > :24:33.arrest to Tony Blair? He could have collared him and arrested him and
:24:34. > :24:37.sent him to the Hague. That is a cheeky question and this is a
:24:38. > :24:42.serious matter so let me just say in this week we all bear responsibility
:24:43. > :24:49.for the decisions we make and we all way the considerations Cearley. --
:24:50. > :24:54.seriously. Let's move on to the economy, I will be less cheeky about
:24:55. > :24:57.that. You are a socialist politician, you have a socialist
:24:58. > :25:02.view on how a socialised economy should be structured and you made a
:25:03. > :25:06.speech about it this week. But we live in a world dominated by
:25:07. > :25:09.International capital, huge movements of capital, multinational
:25:10. > :25:13.companies, and economically borderless world, so how is it
:25:14. > :25:18.possible to run a socialist economy in a cuppa list world without
:25:19. > :25:25.putting up barriers? -- in a capitalist world. You reduce reforms
:25:26. > :25:32.which reach a tipping point and bring you the society you want to
:25:33. > :25:36.reach. The situation we are in, let's be frank, the economic plans
:25:37. > :25:40.of George Osborne are in virtual chaos. This was meant to be the year
:25:41. > :25:46.the deficit was eradicated and we are in a situation where only half
:25:47. > :25:53.of it has been eradicated. They get will be. Last month we borrowed more
:25:54. > :26:03.than any month for the last six years. There has to be an
:26:04. > :26:11.alternative to this. Let's look at the fence. -- at defence. If he cuts
:26:12. > :26:19.police services in the way it is planned that undermines our
:26:20. > :26:23.security. When you interview him... I am doing it for the viewers. On
:26:24. > :26:33.behalf of the viewers put this to him. I say to him directly, end the
:26:34. > :26:36.cuts. Tell him I will support him if he says straightforwardly that
:26:37. > :26:39.policing cuts will not take place because we are in the most
:26:40. > :26:47.heightened risk situation in a generation. You will not tease him
:26:48. > :26:50.about it? I will not, there will be no political gameplaying because
:26:51. > :26:55.this is too important. You said you had to take on and deal with the
:26:56. > :26:58.monopolies which dominate the British economy. First of all who
:26:59. > :27:04.are you talking about? And second what would you do about them? Let me
:27:05. > :27:08.tell you the story about this, George Osborne, this is what annoys
:27:09. > :27:13.me, it is austerity for the rest of us but not for the very rich and
:27:14. > :27:19.corporations. He is cutting their taxes. What they are doing is taking
:27:20. > :27:23.that money and they are not investing, they are paying out the
:27:24. > :27:30.largest share dividends we have ever seen and they are hoarding money.
:27:31. > :27:34.For the people watching, who is gay? The largest multinationals who
:27:35. > :27:38.operate in this country, make their profits in this country. They are
:27:39. > :27:42.making huge profits but not investing. I want to work in
:27:43. > :27:49.relationship with them, we want to use that money to invest in skills,
:27:50. > :28:00.infrastructure and new technology. So it is Apple and Starbuck's and
:28:01. > :28:04.Amazon? Yes but let's look across the City of London. You said it was
:28:05. > :28:09.an inept US organisation stretching around the globe which you have do
:28:10. > :28:12.tackle but now you want to work with them to create a more organised
:28:13. > :28:19.economy and I put it to you these are the same people you are having a
:28:20. > :28:23.go at, by and large leopards don't change their spots. You will not be
:28:24. > :28:27.able to use them to create the kind of economy you want? I am hoping
:28:28. > :28:34.they have learned lessons from the last crisis because there was public
:28:35. > :28:39.anger. You need an entire city of spotless leopards! We need to engage
:28:40. > :28:43.them constructively but firmly. We need to tell them to start investing
:28:44. > :28:49.in our economy again and we need better regulation. We have to stop
:28:50. > :28:54.using the City of London for tax evasion and tax avoidance. George
:28:55. > :28:56.Osborne himself said there is ?10 billion of illegal tax evasion
:28:57. > :29:01.largely going through the City of London. I want to work with them but
:29:02. > :29:04.they have to play by the rules. Thank you very much for coming in.
:29:05. > :29:07.Tom Hanks is quite simply one of the biggest stars Hollywood has
:29:08. > :29:10.In a career spanning four decades, his movies have made more than $4
:29:11. > :29:13.His latest film reunites him with director Steven Spielberg
:29:14. > :29:18.In Bridge of Spies, Hanks plays a mild-mannered attorney
:29:19. > :29:24.picked to defend a Soviet spy in 1950's America.
:29:25. > :29:27.It's based on the true story of a US surveillance plane shot
:29:28. > :29:29.down over Russia and the action moves between New York and
:29:30. > :29:41.I'm an insurance lawyer, I haven't done criminal work in years.
:29:42. > :29:44.Have you represented many accused spies?
:29:45. > :29:46.This will be a first for the both of us.
:29:47. > :29:51.It's great to have you here, you look very like Tom Hanks...
:29:52. > :29:54.But you've got the hair all wrong and the moustache is ridiculous.
:29:55. > :29:58.Yes, someone asked me if I had stopped
:29:59. > :30:05.I'm currently working and I'm playing a guy with very white hair
:30:06. > :30:10.Sully Sullenberger, the pilot who landed the plane
:30:11. > :30:13.in the Hudson a few years ago, called the Miracle on the Hudson.
:30:14. > :30:16.So another kind of hero from an ordinary background kind of thing?
:30:17. > :30:20.I would never cast myself as these people
:30:21. > :30:27.So Bridge of Spies, back in the 1950s, it is a Spielberg
:30:28. > :30:34.spectacular with Brooklyn 1956, it looks like Brooklyn in 1956, East
:30:35. > :30:38.And this is another morally uplifting story.
:30:39. > :30:40.Your character, Donovan, is basically the good American.
:30:41. > :30:53.My name is Donovan, I'm Irish, both sides, mother and father.
:30:54. > :30:57.I'm Irish, you're German, but what makes us both Americans?
:30:58. > :31:08.We call it the constitution and we agree to the rules
:31:09. > :31:17.It was one of those moments where, in history, the forces of East
:31:18. > :31:20.and West duked it out and decided to walk away with just enough...
:31:21. > :31:22.They got what they wanted and then they stopped.
:31:23. > :31:26.And in fact everything that is in the film happened.
:31:27. > :31:29.Donovan, who wrote prosaically about his career, has a very fabulous book
:31:30. > :31:32.in which he explains the six days in which he was in Berlin.
:31:33. > :31:42.Also, one of the extraordinary things about this
:31:43. > :31:46.film to me, being roughly of that generation, just able to remember,
:31:47. > :31:48.we had Protect and Survive, I think you had Duck and Cover.
:31:49. > :31:52.All those public information films about what to do
:31:53. > :31:59.I remember it very well and very specifically that it was
:32:00. > :32:02.not a matter of if, it was a matter of when.
:32:03. > :32:07.World War III was going to happen in our lifetime, it was part of the
:32:08. > :32:12.popular culture, it was on Star Trek and in comic books and novels and
:32:13. > :32:16.movies like Doctor Strangelove and the flash point was going to be at a
:32:17. > :32:20.place like Berlin or Angola or in Vietnam or in the Koreas.
:32:21. > :32:25.And we are living through a time where, once again,
:32:26. > :32:28.thanks to Vladimir Putin, Russia is the enemy and doing all sorts
:32:29. > :32:33.Was that just serendipity or did Spielberg...
:32:34. > :32:38.We made the movie hoping against hope that our marketing team would
:32:39. > :32:46.be able to come up with a good Crimea emergency that was going on.
:32:47. > :32:49.I think we have the comfort of hindsight because it was a little
:32:50. > :32:55.Russia is not the same sort of country that it was in 1951,
:32:56. > :32:57.with the Communist bloc that was falling apart.
:32:58. > :33:00.And I think actually the world is much more complicated
:33:01. > :33:02.now and the sense of what surveillance is and spying
:33:03. > :33:10.We did not get the feeling back then that either side was willing to cut
:33:11. > :33:13.off the heads of the other people in order to prove their point
:33:14. > :33:19.and we are dealing now with people who are willing to do that.
:33:20. > :33:23.You play, again and again, as it were old-fashioned American
:33:24. > :33:27.heroes who have strong constitutional bases and liberal
:33:28. > :33:30.views, try to do the right thing and, to that extent, you're the kind
:33:31. > :33:36.But of course your politics are a bit different because he was
:33:37. > :33:45.And you're somewhat the other side, I think it's fair to say,
:33:46. > :33:47.you have been a big backer of Hillary Clinton.
:33:48. > :33:52.But you have given her money and all the rest of it.
:33:53. > :33:53.I have contributed, yes, a few thousand dollars.
:33:54. > :33:58.It's a dangerous world out there, is she the woman who's got what it
:33:59. > :34:02.takes to lead America through this very perilous period?
:34:03. > :34:04.I don't find anybody more impressive or more trustworthy than her.
:34:05. > :34:08.If somebody comes along, I would be happy to listen to their arguments,
:34:09. > :34:13.but for right now, anyway, there's no big contest that's going on.
:34:14. > :34:17.Look, I root for Aston Villa, at the end of the day, I hope
:34:18. > :34:21.Aston Villa makes it to the FA Cup and if they do, great, if not, I'll
:34:22. > :34:26.Nonetheless, you are the single most successful movie star in the world.
:34:27. > :34:36.Those are some pretty good movies I've been in and I'm just
:34:37. > :34:44.Are you in anyway tempted by public office yourself?
:34:45. > :34:54.I think that guys who are in show business who might go into that...
:34:55. > :34:59.There is a story that politics is show business for ugly people.
:35:00. > :35:04.I think politics is show business for people who are unemployed!
:35:05. > :35:06.I'm still getting jobs at what I'm doing right now.
:35:07. > :35:15.Your films are, overall, optimistic, upbeat kind of films.
:35:16. > :35:18.There's always, not always, very often an uplift in the ending.
:35:19. > :35:21.And they are also very often moral films.
:35:22. > :35:23.The character makes big moral choices and does the right thing
:35:24. > :35:29.There's a lot of very depressing stories out there
:35:30. > :35:38.There is a wide panoply of stuff to choose from, but I only
:35:39. > :35:42.have so much time in this world and I want to be invested in the
:35:43. > :35:46.stories not only that I'm making but I'm going off and seeing as well.
:35:47. > :35:48.And I want there to be some version of truth that I recognise
:35:49. > :35:52.and I want there to be some version of an enlightenment that actually
:35:53. > :35:58.And Bridge of Spies, not to bring it back to the movie I'm currently
:35:59. > :36:01.hawking, that is the kind of stuff that ends up fascinating me and
:36:02. > :36:04.whether it is uplifting or upbeat is not nearly as important to me as
:36:05. > :36:08.whether or not it rings true or not and if it rings true, I think that's
:36:09. > :36:11.the high country and you've done something that's pretty hard to do.
:36:12. > :36:18.It's been a week dominated of course by those terrible events in Paris,
:36:19. > :36:21.but next week - pray God - we'll be talking about the economy instead.
:36:22. > :36:24.After the election George Osborne seemed to be the Tories untouchable
:36:25. > :36:29.After tax credits defeat and poor borrowing figures, it
:36:30. > :36:41.Can we start by talking about Syria? The Prime Minister will come to the
:36:42. > :36:46.House of Commons will -- with what exactly? This week we will step up
:36:47. > :36:51.our diplomatic efforts and human cleric efforts and make the case for
:36:52. > :36:58.a greater military effort against Isil -- humanitarian efforts. The
:36:59. > :37:00.finalist will seek support across Parliament for strikes against that
:37:01. > :37:04.terrorist organisation in Syria. We have never been a country that
:37:05. > :37:09.stands on the sidelines and relies on other to defend us. People have
:37:10. > :37:12.said in the parts we need a com friends if plan that involves
:37:13. > :37:17.diplomacy and politics and a credible war effort. That is what
:37:18. > :37:22.the Prime Minister will set out in response to the House of Commons
:37:23. > :37:27.foreign affairs select committee and tackling this organisation involves
:37:28. > :37:31.efforts at home to deal with counter extremism and making sure in our
:37:32. > :37:37.schools and public spaces, mosques and the like, people are not being
:37:38. > :37:41.radicalised. It requires a step up in our counterterrorist activity to
:37:42. > :37:44.keep the streets safe and it also means that diplomatic and
:37:45. > :37:50.humanitarian efforts to resolve the Syrian civil war. But we can't wait
:37:51. > :37:56.for that civil war to end before taking the fight to Isil in its base
:37:57. > :37:59.which is in Syria and that involves the RAF taking part in my view, in
:38:00. > :38:04.the international efforts that are going on degrade that organisation.
:38:05. > :38:08.If this is a question of leadership, when will we see about in the House
:38:09. > :38:15.of Commons? You will not get consensus. The truth is, in 2013,
:38:16. > :38:19.the House of Commons voted against military action in Syria and I think
:38:20. > :38:24.that was a terrible about myself which sent a bad message about Biton
:38:25. > :38:28.and our willingness to confront our opponents around the world but that
:38:29. > :38:33.happens -- about Britain. We will not go to the House of Commons and
:38:34. > :38:37.glued again, that would be a publicity coup for Isil and send a
:38:38. > :38:40.terrible message about our role in the world so we will only call a
:38:41. > :38:46.vote when we are confident of winning it. I suspect it is changing
:38:47. > :38:52.their views who had previously opposed us getting involved and
:38:53. > :38:57.British air strikes in Syria but let's see. Those who are never going
:38:58. > :39:04.to authorise or sanction or be part of any kind of reddish military
:39:05. > :39:10.action abroad are unpersuaded will. -- British military action. It is up
:39:11. > :39:15.to the Labour leadership to make their position clear. I would say
:39:16. > :39:19.MPs of all parties want to hear from us how RAF strikes in Syria will be
:39:20. > :39:23.part of a broader strategy to deal with this terrible terrorist
:39:24. > :39:28.organisation and I think the UN vote in the last couple of days has shown
:39:29. > :39:33.the world that there is a united determination to deal with this pure
:39:34. > :39:37.evil. When will we get about De Vrij think? We will call it when we are
:39:38. > :39:47.confident we have the numbers to win it. -- when will we get a vote do
:39:48. > :39:51.you think. In the coming weeks, the Prime Minister will come to the
:39:52. > :39:54.House of Commons and respond to the foreign affairs select committee
:39:55. > :39:58.which is the group of MPs who have looked into the broader strategy on
:39:59. > :40:02.Isil and he will make the case and we will as a government, we will
:40:03. > :40:09.allow MPs to digest that response and see where we stand. We are
:40:10. > :40:14.talking weeks rather than months? The first thing is to make the case.
:40:15. > :40:19.Britain is not a country that allows others to do its work for it. This
:40:20. > :40:25.organisation is killed British terrorist in Tunisia, it has planned
:40:26. > :40:29.plots here in Britain than it has killed people in Paris, blown up a
:40:30. > :40:34.Russian airliner and people in Beirut, this is a threat against us
:40:35. > :40:39.all. We have heard in the papers today from government sources saying
:40:40. > :40:44.this is a question of Chamberlain against Churchill. Is that a bit
:40:45. > :40:47.much? I think there is a big question for Britain about whether
:40:48. > :40:53.we want to be a country that tries to shape the world or is shaped by
:40:54. > :40:58.it. For my generation, I came into politics at the beginning of the
:40:59. > :41:01.last decade, the combination of the Iraq war and the big economic
:41:02. > :41:08.recession meant Britain retreated within itself a bit. And the failure
:41:09. > :41:11.in Libya, there have been another of Western failures in the Middle
:41:12. > :41:18.East. It is easy to count the price of getting involved in Iraq,
:41:19. > :41:26.Afghanistan,... The Taliban are coming back in Afghanistan... It is
:41:27. > :41:30.easy... It is easy to point to the cost of getting involved including
:41:31. > :41:35.the sacrifice of British lives. What is sometimes more difficult to spot
:41:36. > :41:38.is the price of not getting involved. This country did not get
:41:39. > :41:43.involved, as did other Western countries, in the Syrian conflict
:41:44. > :41:47.earlier on and did not come in my view, do enough to put pressure on
:41:48. > :41:53.the Assad regime although we make the case for doing so. Now we are
:41:54. > :41:56.seeing that there is a price for not getting involved and I think we do
:41:57. > :42:01.need to get more involved but we need the support of Parliament. With
:42:02. > :42:05.that glorious luxury of hindsight, the last defence review is getting
:42:06. > :42:09.to look like a mistake and a moment of embarrassment for many in Britain
:42:10. > :42:14.when the French were able to send their aircraft carrier to the Syrian
:42:15. > :42:20.coasts and we don't have anything like that at all. What are you doing
:42:21. > :42:25.to build up our defences? Five years ago we had to rescue the defence
:42:26. > :42:28.budget, it had a massive hole in it, all sorts of things have been
:42:29. > :42:31.ordered which we could not pay for and we focused on the priorities
:42:32. > :42:35.which were getting the new aircraft carriers built, new submarines that
:42:36. > :42:40.could defend our seas, making sure that our air force at the equipment
:42:41. > :42:45.they need. The carriers were originally old with a total aircraft
:42:46. > :42:52.component of eight planes so what will happen? -- originally built. We
:42:53. > :42:56.will step up the aircraft carrier punch of the UK, make sure that they
:42:57. > :43:01.are available and they will have planes that can fly from them in
:43:02. > :43:08.force and by 2023 we will be able to have 24 of these jets, some of the
:43:09. > :43:12.most powerful in the world. And Britain second only to the US will
:43:13. > :43:17.be able to project power abroad in to defend ourselves at home. One of
:43:18. > :43:24.the other big issues is policing. Do the event in Paris change your view
:43:25. > :43:29.about what to do about the level of British policing? I will come on
:43:30. > :43:35.directly to that but I would say this, in the summer budget we took
:43:36. > :43:37.the decision to increase our defence spending and protect our
:43:38. > :43:41.counterterrorism spending which were decisions taken before the terrible
:43:42. > :43:45.events in Paris and those events of course have thrown a spotlight on
:43:46. > :43:51.the threat we face that it existed before that. When it comes to the
:43:52. > :43:56.spending review, we will make the argument that protecting the British
:43:57. > :44:00.people is our first duty as a government, the economic security is
:44:01. > :44:03.a vital part of national security and precisely because we are making
:44:04. > :44:09.difficult decisions in other parts of the budget, we can give our
:44:10. > :44:12.military more kit, increase our counterterrorism budget by 30% and
:44:13. > :44:17.also take action to stop guns coming into the country and deal with gun
:44:18. > :44:21.men on the streets here. 30% more for counterterrorism but what about
:44:22. > :44:25.actual police numbers? There was talk of a golden thread between the
:44:26. > :44:30.counterterrorism operation and neighbourhood policing. 20% cuts in
:44:31. > :44:36.front line and leasing would put us over the limit. Of course the police
:44:37. > :44:40.do an important job on our behalf. Every public service has to make
:44:41. > :44:44.sure they are spending the people's money well and there are
:44:45. > :44:50.efficiencies that can be made by the police. We made savings in the
:44:51. > :44:55.police budget in the last Parliament and the number of neighbourhood
:44:56. > :45:01.police officers went up. Apparently the number of front line leasing
:45:02. > :45:07.went down by 8500 and we are at a point where if you impose 20% cuts
:45:08. > :45:09.you will lose a lot more front line policing and the former Home
:45:10. > :45:13.Secretary John Ridge said we would be in a situation where there were
:45:14. > :45:16.fewer police in the entire country than the French brought into Paris
:45:17. > :45:17.alone in the wake of the terrorist attacks and that would be
:45:18. > :45:28.unconscionable. Increasing the budget means money
:45:29. > :45:32.goes to the police as well as defence services to deal with
:45:33. > :45:36.terrorists, to make sure we can deal with marauding gun attacks, stop
:45:37. > :45:39.guns coming into the country in the first place which is one of
:45:40. > :45:44.Britain's great advantages at the moment. The reason horses are there
:45:45. > :45:54.to deal with the terrorist threat. Of course it it is only present --
:45:55. > :46:00.it's only present. Will there be cuts in Britain's front line leasing
:46:01. > :46:04.as a result of the Autumn Statement? Every black service has to make sure
:46:05. > :46:07.it is spending money well but we will make sure Britain is properly
:46:08. > :46:15.defended against the terrorist threat. -- every public service. If
:46:16. > :46:18.your budget is out of control, if you are borrowing money you don't
:46:19. > :46:21.have then you cannot keep the country safe either on the streets
:46:22. > :46:27.of Britain or indeed in the Middle East. I was just interested in
:46:28. > :46:33.actual police numbers and it sounds like there are going to be cuts. We
:46:34. > :46:38.will set out the Home Office budget like the other budgets on Wednesday.
:46:39. > :46:44.What I have announced today is a big increase in the resources we put
:46:45. > :46:47.into the counterterrorism. I mentioned the tax credit defeat at
:46:48. > :46:51.the beginning of the programme, the amendment passed by the house of
:46:52. > :46:54.lords says there must be a fool transitional arrangement for all the
:46:55. > :47:00.families and individuals involved for three years. Do you regard that
:47:01. > :47:04.as binding? You will see what I have to say about welfare spending on
:47:05. > :47:10.Wednesday including tax credits. I have said of course I am prepared to
:47:11. > :47:15.listen to those who say can we ease this transition but my central
:47:16. > :47:18.judgments are these, we need to make savings in well fire. Largely
:47:19. > :47:21.unnoticed in the last week the House of Commons had just passed a
:47:22. > :47:29.multi-billion pound saving in the welfare budget. We also need to
:47:30. > :47:35.increase wages which is why we are increasingly national living wage.
:47:36. > :47:38.You would prefer to have sent the letters out before Christmas, you
:47:39. > :47:43.would have preferred your original plan, that was the best way to do it
:47:44. > :47:47.in your view? I set out the plans but they did not pass through the
:47:48. > :47:55.House of Lords. When I look at the welfare reforms I have made over the
:47:56. > :47:59.last five years, such as changes to who can claim child benefit and the
:48:00. > :48:03.welfare cap, on both occasions the Parliament made changes to those
:48:04. > :48:11.proposals by the end destination was the same. The amendment that was
:48:12. > :48:14.passed in the house of Lords has legal stature as far as you are
:48:15. > :48:19.concerned so you cannot ignore it? The House of Lords blocked the
:48:20. > :48:23.passage of the necessary legislation but I said I would listen to the
:48:24. > :48:28.concerns which have been raised. There are those who say we should
:48:29. > :48:32.not be making any cuts to welfare at all, no savings, the budget should
:48:33. > :48:37.go up and up. That is the position of John McDonnell. There are others
:48:38. > :48:41.who say we agree we want to make savings in welfare and increase
:48:42. > :48:47.wages but you have two help families in transition. They said it was too
:48:48. > :48:51.fast and too harsh. I am willing to listen to those people, those are
:48:52. > :48:55.legitimate concerns. I have always been someone who thought it is not a
:48:56. > :48:59.weakness to listen to good arguments. I will not press you
:49:00. > :49:05.further details on stuff you will not tell me, but in terms of the
:49:06. > :49:10.parameters, the envelope in which you are working, the welfare cap is
:49:11. > :49:14.presumably sacrosanct? If we were to breach the welfare cap which is a
:49:15. > :49:17.new control we have put on government spending we would have
:49:18. > :49:23.two come to the House of Commons and explain ourselves and have a vote.
:49:24. > :49:25.And you are still going for the 20 billion of welfare cuts, the 12
:49:26. > :49:31.million new talked about in the past? I will set out the details on
:49:32. > :49:38.Wednesday but I am confident we can deliver what we promised to deliver
:49:39. > :49:42.at the general election. It will be for a purpose, for economic security
:49:43. > :49:48.which enables jobs to be created and living standards to rise. If you
:49:49. > :49:53.stick by your cap and your 12 billion of Welker cuts and job lost
:49:54. > :49:58.4 billion of cuts, then presumably you are left with a series of
:49:59. > :50:04.unhappy possibilities involving disability benefit, housing benefit,
:50:05. > :50:07.family credit and so forth? You will have to wait for the spending review
:50:08. > :50:13.but I think people will see a plan which delivers a lower welfare,
:50:14. > :50:17.higher wage economy. This country will have economic security going
:50:18. > :50:20.forward. I have read all these reports in the newspapers that I am
:50:21. > :50:25.at war with various members of the Cabinet but I can tell you the
:50:26. > :50:28.spending review has been agreed, all departments have settled and
:50:29. > :50:37.amicably. Nothing has had to be imposed. Iain Duncan Smith saw your
:50:38. > :50:44.offer for universal credit? We have worked together to create
:50:45. > :50:47.substantial savings. Last week parliament passed a multi-billion
:50:48. > :50:51.pound saving to the welfare budget that we worked on, promoted at the
:50:52. > :50:55.summer budget and have now seen become law. We have just seen
:50:56. > :51:00.disappointing borrowing figures for October overall, you did not get the
:51:01. > :51:04.tax money you're hoping for and government spending was not as tight
:51:05. > :51:08.as you had hoped, what has gone wrong in simple terms? I remember
:51:09. > :51:13.coming on this show five years ago and everyone said it was going to be
:51:14. > :51:18.a disaster and unemployment would go up and we will weaken the economy.
:51:19. > :51:22.We have had the strongest growth of any major economy in the world. A
:51:23. > :51:26.record number of jobs being created. That's the context of the
:51:27. > :51:31.spending review. But if you are telling me have we still got a
:51:32. > :51:36.borrowing problem? I would say at a likely. Have we got a deficit which
:51:37. > :51:41.is too high? I agree. That is what this spending review is about, to
:51:42. > :51:45.bring economic security, national security, opportunities for our
:51:46. > :51:49.citizens. Without a sound economy nothing else which you talk about
:51:50. > :51:53.would be possible. Budgie might end up borrowing ten or ?15 billion more
:51:54. > :51:59.of this year than you intended to do? The independent Office for
:52:00. > :52:02.Budget Responsibility will publish their figures on Wednesday. I don't
:52:03. > :52:07.do those any more, that was an important change we made five years
:52:08. > :52:11.ago. Of course borrowing is a challenge, that is the context of
:52:12. > :52:14.the spending review. But I think what we have demonstrated with the
:52:15. > :52:20.support we give to the military and the National Health Service... As a
:52:21. > :52:26.government you have missed that up, you have told the junior doctors,
:52:27. > :52:31.any election you went for a 24-hour seven-day week NHS but you did not
:52:32. > :52:36.properly fund it. The National Health Service budget is going up in
:52:37. > :52:39.real terms, ?10 billion extra for the National Health Service. And of
:52:40. > :52:43.course we have to make sure the money is well spent. I keep coming
:52:44. > :52:50.back to that point, these public services exist for the people who
:52:51. > :52:53.paid your taxes. Final question, the world has changed dramatically since
:52:54. > :52:57.you set out your spending plans, with the attacks in Paris, things
:52:58. > :53:02.have changed and economic problems abroad. Do you think your overall
:53:03. > :53:07.plan for a surplus of 10 billion by the end of this parliament is still
:53:08. > :53:10.sensible? You could save pain and improve the economy in the short
:53:11. > :53:16.term if you drop the 10 billion surplus, why do you have to go into
:53:17. > :53:25.surplus? The precise level of the surplus will be set out in the
:53:26. > :53:29.forecast on Wednesday but I would make this observation. There is
:53:30. > :53:34.nothing painful about a surplus. The pain comes if you borrow for ever.
:53:35. > :53:38.If you don't fix the national finances. Then you don't have a
:53:39. > :53:44.National Health Service you can fund, education. I just wonder if
:53:45. > :53:49.you are pushing it a bit too hard? I would put it the other way, if after
:53:50. > :53:54.a decade of economic growth Britain is still running a deficit... I am
:53:55. > :53:58.talking about the service after the deficit. If you are not putting
:53:59. > :54:01.money aside for a rainy day you are repeating all the mistakes which got
:54:02. > :54:09.Britain into this mess and decade ago. There will always be economic
:54:10. > :54:13.crisis at some point in the future. You have to make sure you are
:54:14. > :54:18.prepared for it now. It might be a figure lower than ten, we will see.
:54:19. > :54:20.The forecast will be there on Wednesday. Chancellor, thank you for
:54:21. > :54:21.joining us. Now over to Roger
:54:22. > :54:23.for the news headlines. President Obama has said the US
:54:24. > :54:26.and its allies will not relent Speaking at a summit in Malaysia,
:54:27. > :54:31.he said the US would lead a global movement
:54:32. > :54:33.against the extremists and what he Here, the Chancellor George Osborne
:54:34. > :54:39.has confirmed that the government will step up its efforts to make the
:54:40. > :54:45.case for military action in Syria. He told this programme Britain had
:54:46. > :54:48.never been a country which stood on But Mr Osborne added that there
:54:49. > :54:53.would not be a vote in Parliament until ministers were sure
:54:54. > :54:59.of winning it. Labour's John McDonnell said he
:55:00. > :55:01.believed IS would only be defeated with the involvement of regional
:55:02. > :55:05.powers in the Middle East. But he said his party would
:55:06. > :55:11.consider the government's plans. I went through Iraq, Afghanistan,
:55:12. > :55:13.I've been there in Parliament 18 years now and many
:55:14. > :55:16.wars and decisions have been taken. This is the most serious thing you
:55:17. > :55:19.can do because you are affecting people's lives
:55:20. > :55:21.and people could lose their lives. I'm hoping that we can act
:55:22. > :55:24.as one and put aside party differences and look at the
:55:25. > :55:26.long-term interests of the country. First, a look at what's coming up
:55:27. > :55:46.immediately after this programme. With some countries on critical
:55:47. > :55:49.global alert should Britain during air strikes in Syria?
:55:50. > :55:52.We have breaking news this morning that cinemas have banned
:55:53. > :55:54.a religious ad for prayer ? are they right to do so?
:55:55. > :55:58.The comedian, Omid Djalili, talks to Nikki Bedi, and we have a rousing
:55:59. > :56:04.Andrew Neil will be here on BBC1 at 11am with the Sunday Politics.
:56:05. > :56:08.His guests include one of my guests' predecessors, Lord
:56:09. > :56:14.We'll be back next week when my guests will include former
:56:15. > :56:17.Labour Shadow Cabinet member Chuka Ummuna and the actor Toby Jones
:56:18. > :56:23.on the challenge of remaking the role of Mainwaring in Dad's Army.
:56:24. > :56:26.Until then we leave you with Ethan Johns and The Black Eyed Dogs
:56:27. > :56:31.From their new album, this is "I Don't Mind'.
:56:32. > :56:56.# Rain comes down upon my spinning head
:56:57. > :57:04.# Well I don't mind that I am getting wet
:57:05. > :57:15.# It sure feels good to be home
:57:16. > :57:30.# I don't mean to wake up and be gone
:57:31. > :57:37.# It's just a place I go to write a song
:57:38. > :57:52.# I hope you could until the end of time
:57:53. > :58:00.# I know that it feels good to be home
:58:01. > :58:31.# And you don't have to make it on your own
:58:32. > :58:39.# And I don't mind that I am getting old
:58:40. > :58:45.# You don't have to buy what you're being sold
:58:46. > :58:54.# I know that it feels good to be home
:58:55. > :59:19.The first illustration shows Hitler and Himmler