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:00:09. > :00:11.The Chancellor talks of a cocktail of threats to the British economy

:00:12. > :00:13.as the Prime Minister wrestles with a tight,

:00:14. > :00:26.self-imposed deadline over our European future.

:00:27. > :00:38.2016, another crunch year for David Cameron.

:00:39. > :00:43.My guests this week include the Prime Minister, and,

:00:44. > :00:45.after that extended Labour reshuffle, the last Blairite

:00:46. > :00:54.standing in the Shadow Cabinet, Lord Falconer.

:00:55. > :00:58.Now the other big thing about this year is that it's the 400th

:00:59. > :01:01.anniversary of Shakespeare's death, so lots of drama of a more

:01:02. > :01:06.I've been talking to Greg Doran, who runs the Royal Shakespeare

:01:07. > :01:09.Company, along with one of his favourite actors and a man

:01:10. > :01:10.you may have heard of, David Tennant.

:01:11. > :01:17.You remember Squeeze and Cool For Cats?

:01:18. > :01:19.Well, Deptford's finest are back with a new album and they'll be

:01:20. > :01:35.And to review the papers, Tim Montgomerie of the Times,

:01:36. > :01:37.possibly one the the most influential Tory Eurosceptics

:01:38. > :01:39.outside the Cabinet, and Ayesha Hazarika,

:01:40. > :01:41.former Labour advisor, comic and now Member of the British

:01:42. > :01:45.All that coming up after the news with Ben Thompson.

:01:46. > :01:50.England's worst housing estates will be torn down or renovated,

:01:51. > :01:53.the Prime Minister will announce today.

:01:54. > :01:56.David Cameron will pledge to end what he calls "decades of neglect"

:01:57. > :02:00.and hopes the scheme will, in turn, tackle drug abuse and gang culture.

:02:01. > :02:03.A panel of experts will be set up to choose the 100 sites

:02:04. > :02:09.Our political correspondent, Ross Hawkins, reports.

:02:10. > :02:12.Put right or pull down the old towers and dark alleyways,

:02:13. > :02:18.Put up new social housing, like this project in North London,

:02:19. > :02:21.which got the go-ahead before he became Prime Minister.

:02:22. > :02:24.Writing in the Sunday Times he says, "The mission here is nothing short

:02:25. > :02:29.of social turnaround with massive estate regeneration,

:02:30. > :02:34.tenants protected and land unlocked for new housing."

:02:35. > :02:39.More social housing that looks like this.

:02:40. > :02:41.The actual promise today from the government

:02:42. > :02:45.They are not saying which estates yet they would like to knock down

:02:46. > :02:49.and rebuild and they are not promising to stump up all the money

:02:50. > :02:51.that would be needed for expensive schemes like this one.

:02:52. > :02:54.It will certainly cost much, much more than the ?140 million

:02:55. > :02:59.he is promising to get early work under way.

:03:00. > :03:02.Lord Heseltine will be in charge of the report saying how pension

:03:03. > :03:05.funds might invest more money, and drawing up a list of places

:03:06. > :03:08.Labour say a small-scale scheme stretched over 100 estates

:03:09. > :03:14.It is tenants who will judge this policy by whether they see

:03:15. > :03:23.The chairwoman of a Labour pressure group has resigned from the post

:03:24. > :03:26.after claiming that it is impossible to work with the current party

:03:27. > :03:31.Alison McGovern's decision to quit her role with the Progress

:03:32. > :03:34.group comes after the resignation of three junior ministers

:03:35. > :03:36.following Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn's reshuffle

:03:37. > :03:40.of his Shadow Cabinet earlier this week.

:03:41. > :03:43.Stars of rock and roll of all ages have been paying tribute

:03:44. > :03:46.to Motorhead singer Lemmy at his funeral.

:03:47. > :03:49.The service, which was held in Los Angeles, was streamed online

:03:50. > :03:50.and watched by more than 280,000 fans.

:03:51. > :03:53.He died from cancer last week, shortly after celebrating

:03:54. > :03:59.Slash from Guns 'n' Roses and the Foo Fighters' Dave Grohl

:04:00. > :04:04.were among the many musicians who paid their respects.

:04:05. > :04:06.Two ticket holders will share the ?66 million prize from last

:04:07. > :04:13.It's the biggest prize fund in the competition's history.

:04:14. > :04:16.The operator's website struggled to cope with demand in the hours

:04:17. > :04:18.leading up to the draw as people logged on to

:04:19. > :04:23.I'll be back with the headlines just before 10 o'clock.

:04:24. > :04:37.There is the Sunday Times. No one can really agree what the splashes

:04:38. > :04:44.today, saying that Labour pars hard left, the Momentum movement are

:04:45. > :04:48.going to picket hospitals. The same story, doctors told strike will harm

:04:49. > :04:52.patients, that is coming on Wednesday. The Observer, parents

:04:53. > :04:55.should take lessons in how to control children, says the Prime

:04:56. > :05:02.Minister. Some people think the government is going like a nanny

:05:03. > :05:05.state at the moment. And finally, the alleged killer of his

:05:06. > :05:12.ex-girlfriend and two children has been grabbed in Ghana on the beach,

:05:13. > :05:15.hiding in some rocks. Whether you're going to start today? I thought we

:05:16. > :05:19.would start with the story in the Independent On Sunday about the row

:05:20. > :05:24.that visit the heart of the Labour Party over our stance on Trident.

:05:25. > :05:28.There is a report saying that the leadership hope to change the rules,

:05:29. > :05:33.so they would effectively stripped the Shadow Cabinet of taking

:05:34. > :05:37.decisions, and allowed the NEC and the members to take the decisions.

:05:38. > :05:43.This is actually a very poor than story. If the NEC, on which Jeremy

:05:44. > :05:51.Corbyn has a majority, if they take decisions on the future, he will get

:05:52. > :05:53.his way on this and a lot of other things. Correct. It is not

:05:54. > :05:59.clear-cut. He controls the NEC and he has powerful people on it such as

:06:00. > :06:03.Ken Livingstone. However, such of -- some of the biggest trade unions,

:06:04. > :06:09.the GMB and Kallis Unite, they are not in the same places Jeremy

:06:10. > :06:16.Corbyn, because a massive number of manufacturing and engineering jobs

:06:17. > :06:19.are dependent on Trident. A large number of the Shadow Cabinet would

:06:20. > :06:27.resign if the position on Trident would read -- is the position on

:06:28. > :06:32.Trident changed. It is difficult to see how they can keep the party

:06:33. > :06:36.united. This is a very symbolic issue. It is an important moment for

:06:37. > :06:39.Jeremy Corbyn because he has to achieve a Shadow Cabinet which

:06:40. > :06:44.sounds like him and agrees with him otherwise this will go on forever.

:06:45. > :06:54.Absolutely. There are problems on the other side of politics. You have

:06:55. > :06:57.a out campaign story. David Cameron said he will allow his ministers to

:06:58. > :07:03.campaign freely on the European Union. Now the out campaign, of

:07:04. > :07:09.which I am a supporter, are waiting for a big beast to come forward to

:07:10. > :07:17.champion the cause. The out campaign lacks leadership. David Cameron will

:07:18. > :07:23.lead the in campaign. He has told Christian Democrats this week, the

:07:24. > :07:29.Times reported, the -- that he will lead the campaign. But will Theresa

:07:30. > :07:34.May, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, will they lead the out campaign? The

:07:35. > :07:40.campaign does not have that leader yet. The Daily Mail had a story this

:07:41. > :07:44.week which said it was an feed in effect. Although ministers will be

:07:45. > :07:48.able to campaign for Britain to leave the EU, that only happens

:07:49. > :07:51.after the negotiations are over, so the likes of Iain Duncan Smith,

:07:52. > :07:58.Therese of earlier is, they are effectively gagged at the moment. It

:07:59. > :08:05.is not a fair laying fields. I do. Lynton Crosby, one of his favourite

:08:06. > :08:10.catchphrases for campaigning was, you cannot fight in a pig on market

:08:11. > :08:18.day. In other words, start early. Yes, we need to be making this

:08:19. > :08:22.argument now. If you want to overturn the scepticism, you have to

:08:23. > :08:26.make the argument early. If you cannot make it until after the

:08:27. > :08:31.renegotiation, which is still six weeks away from being complete, it

:08:32. > :08:34.is a live-in sour. I do not think it will be all plain sailing for a

:08:35. > :08:39.David Cameron. It is not just his backbenchers. There are massive

:08:40. > :08:43.number of cabinet members who are not happy with his position. Number

:08:44. > :08:46.10 started briefing before Christmas that what he wants will be watered

:08:47. > :08:51.down significantly. Will David Cameron be enough -- be able to

:08:52. > :08:57.throw enough red meat to his very blue Uris get the colleagues? You

:08:58. > :09:02.would get a sort of purple results. Another European story, which is

:09:03. > :09:07.related. This is all tied up with the migrant crisis and what we think

:09:08. > :09:11.about that, what is going on in Cologne. Absolutely, we were

:09:12. > :09:17.horrified by the awful events on New Year's Eve were lot of women were

:09:18. > :09:23.attacked. The fallout from these events has been interesting. The far

:09:24. > :09:26.right has seized upon those attacks as an excuse to say, look, you

:09:27. > :09:32.cannot have migrants coming into the West, they do not agree with us

:09:33. > :09:35.culturally. That is not the right way to approach this. Interestingly

:09:36. > :09:41.lots of women have taken to the streets to march against the

:09:42. > :09:45.fascists, saying that the police did not take the right action as well,

:09:46. > :09:48.and I think what we are seeing, a Leeds back to the fact that there

:09:49. > :09:56.needs to be a proper examination across the whole of Europe, about

:09:57. > :09:59.how we deal with the migrant crisis. What really went on in Cologne and

:10:00. > :10:04.to was responsible is a tricky business, but what is clear is that

:10:05. > :10:08.Angela Merkel, who looked like a European heroin a few weeks ago, is

:10:09. > :10:13.now in real trouble over this. She is, and she has toughened her

:10:14. > :10:17.rhetoric on deporting migrants after these assaults. It is important in

:10:18. > :10:22.this sensitive, complex situation to not pitch race and religion against

:10:23. > :10:28.attacks on women. That is a dangerous game. That is true, but it

:10:29. > :10:30.is also one of the first responsibilities of any government

:10:31. > :10:37.and Prime Minister to keep their people say. At the moment, the

:10:38. > :10:41.German people do not feel there are adequate tests on the refugees

:10:42. > :10:46.coming into their country. In the Independent On Sunday this morning,

:10:47. > :10:49.you have a story, at the moment, Germany can only expel migrants and

:10:50. > :10:56.asylum seekers if they are convicted of an offence with a three-year

:10:57. > :11:00.sentence. She wants to change that limit so it is much easier to expel

:11:01. > :11:02.people. People do not accept large influxes of refugees unless they

:11:03. > :11:07.believe their government has a system to ensure that the bad eggs

:11:08. > :11:12.can be excluded. Yes, but we must not let the action of a small number

:11:13. > :11:17.of criminals tarnished the majority. A does show the importance of having

:11:18. > :11:22.a EU that works together. This migrants crisis does need to be

:11:23. > :11:29.solved. We could have a long debate about that. If only we could have a

:11:30. > :11:33.EU that work together. I want to get onto the Prime Minister's big

:11:34. > :11:38.announcement today, smashing up these council estates. It sounds

:11:39. > :11:43.like what Tony Blair said in his big first speech after becoming Prime

:11:44. > :11:47.Minister in 1997, at, I think, the Aylesbury estate in South London.

:11:48. > :11:53.David Cameron does not want to be talking about Europe, labour ripping

:11:54. > :11:58.itself apart on issues like Trident, David Cameron wants to talk about

:11:59. > :12:02.the centre ground, he wants to elder one nation Conservative Party. The

:12:03. > :12:08.sink estates we have in this country and a massive problem and this is a

:12:09. > :12:12.welcome development, but a for what is a massive problem that is

:12:13. > :12:17.detailed in some numbers released by the campaigning housing charity

:12:18. > :12:21.Shelter in the Observer. A quarter of people in London are renting

:12:22. > :12:24.privately. They are spending half of their monthly income on

:12:25. > :12:38.accommodation alone. We are building only half the number of

:12:39. > :12:42.houses that we need in this country. The scale of the response from the

:12:43. > :12:44.Prime Minister, it is good he is talking about this but it needs to

:12:45. > :12:47.be bolder. Once these estates are raised and rebuilt, more density of

:12:48. > :12:50.housing, how much of that is social housing and how much is for sale?

:12:51. > :12:53.Absolutely. Housing will be a big issue for the forthcoming mayoral

:12:54. > :12:57.election in London. It will be the top issue in London. Until we start

:12:58. > :13:03.building on some of the green belt which is not that Breen, we will not

:13:04. > :13:07.solve the crisis. Another day, another Andrew Neil Shaw, another

:13:08. > :13:11.Labour resignation. It looks like the Sunday Politics will have

:13:12. > :13:17.another resignation. Alison McGovern who leads a group within the Labour

:13:18. > :13:21.Party called Progress, is resigning over comments made by John McDonnell

:13:22. > :13:27.over progress being the hard right, she disagrees with the leadership's

:13:28. > :13:32.position. All of this is pointing to a very dangerous split in the Labour

:13:33. > :13:38.Party. It feels like there is an impasse in terms of, you have the

:13:39. > :13:45.PLP, against the members, in terms of Jeremy Corbyn's mandate. My plea,

:13:46. > :13:53.and everyone's plea, to the PLP and the NEC and the Progress -- Momentum

:13:54. > :13:59.group, we need to have a bit of composure. It feels like a landslide

:14:00. > :14:03.of the centre-right of labour. They are all peeling away one by one and

:14:04. > :14:09.the question is, should they be steadying the ship? It is difficult,

:14:10. > :14:13.but we all have to come together, as difficult as it is. We start the

:14:14. > :14:17.year by making ourselves the story when large parts of the country are

:14:18. > :14:24.flooded, the doctors are on strike, train fares are going up, and the

:14:25. > :14:27.danger for the Labour Party is that David Cameron is merciless with the

:14:28. > :14:31.Labour Party. He is coming to execute the Labour Party, are

:14:32. > :14:36.funding will be cut in terms of the trade unions, the boundaries will be

:14:37. > :14:43.redrawn in an unfair way. I think it is suicide at the moment. It is self

:14:44. > :14:48.harm. She is quitting over a review which has not happened yet, so it is

:14:49. > :14:53.premature, to see the least. We will see on the Sunday Politics. Moving

:14:54. > :14:58.on, it is hard to tell whether she is resigning or not. She's quite

:14:59. > :15:02.subtle and her use of language. Another good story from the Sunday

:15:03. > :15:06.Telegraph. Yes, one of the big issues we will be facing, as you

:15:07. > :15:12.mentioned, is the coming strike by junior doctors. Jeremy Hunt has

:15:13. > :15:17.given an interview in the Sunday Telegraph, very robust, reminding us

:15:18. > :15:21.why we need a seven-day working week across the NHS, that this strike is

:15:22. > :15:28.all about. He is highlighting facts that the mortality rates for newborn

:15:29. > :15:31.babies is 7% higher at weekends, emergency surgery, 11% higher. The

:15:32. > :15:34.question is whether you can do this skill of change without increasing

:15:35. > :15:40.the amount of money available to the NHS? The doctors are being asked to

:15:41. > :15:46.work on new shifts and given no option. We are heading for a strike,

:15:47. > :15:50.and if the papers are right, hospitals to.

:15:51. > :15:58.I think the doctors have a lot of goodwill from the public, but the

:15:59. > :16:01.first few days of strike action or about non-emergency cover, but the

:16:02. > :16:05.third day could see nonemergency cover removed and that could be

:16:06. > :16:09.dangerous for the doctors because if they start not providing that basic

:16:10. > :16:15.level, they might lose public sympathy. We have been chairing the

:16:16. > :16:18.nation up over the Sunday newspapers, so thank you for that.

:16:19. > :16:22.It's been foul, completely disgusting, warm and very, very wet.

:16:23. > :16:24.When are we going to get some decent winter weather?

:16:25. > :16:36.It sounds like you want weather like this. This was the scene earlier

:16:37. > :16:45.this morning from Lancashire when we had snow in the Pennines. And in

:16:46. > :16:50.chalk two of snow on the ground, which came from this weather system

:16:51. > :16:53.which has pushed rain across north-west England and around 200

:16:54. > :17:01.metres elevation we saw that turn readily to snow. That is clearing

:17:02. > :17:05.away now. There will be some snow mixed in across the central belt and

:17:06. > :17:11.certainly across the southern uplands today. Elsewhere it is a day

:17:12. > :17:15.of bright spells and showers. In the southern counties of England they

:17:16. > :17:20.will be accompanied by rumbles of thunder and hail at times too.

:17:21. > :17:27.Overnight a more organised band of rain will move in, we could see

:17:28. > :17:33.about an inch of rain fall at one time bringing the risk of flooding

:17:34. > :17:37.in some parts. It will be a cold night, and ice will be an additional

:17:38. > :17:43.hazard to take us into Monday morning. The majority of the showers

:17:44. > :17:47.on Monday will be affecting Northern Ireland and Wales and the southern

:17:48. > :17:52.counties of England. It is set to get colder in the week ahead, so you

:17:53. > :17:55.might just have your wish, Andrew. In a very strange way, that cheers

:17:56. > :17:58.me up! There's a bit of a row going over

:17:59. > :18:01.over allegations that the BBC colluded in the resignation of one

:18:02. > :18:04.of Jeremy Corbyn's team last week. No comment, but let me be absolutely

:18:05. > :18:07.clear there have been no furtive conversations with my next guest,

:18:08. > :18:09.Charlie Falconer, who is, for the time being at least,

:18:10. > :18:16.the Shadow Justice Secretary. We will see for how much longer over

:18:17. > :18:20.the course of this interview! Pat McFadden was fired for disagreeing

:18:21. > :18:26.with Jeremy Corbyn about the causes of terrorism. Was that the right

:18:27. > :18:30.thing to happen? Pat McFadden said there was no excuse, you cannot

:18:31. > :18:33.justify what terrorists have done because of any allegation about what

:18:34. > :18:39.the Western policy is and I agreed with that proposition so I regret

:18:40. > :18:45.that Pat has gone. So that was a wrong decision in your view? The

:18:46. > :18:49.decision as to who is in or out of the Shadow Cabinet is one for the

:18:50. > :18:56.leader, my view about Pat McFadden is that it was an excellent

:18:57. > :19:01.minister. He is an exceptional... So you think he is an exceptional

:19:02. > :19:06.public serviceman, politician and you don't think he should have been

:19:07. > :19:11.fired? I certainly wouldn't have fired him. We are in a period where

:19:12. > :19:15.a lot of people in the moderate side of the party are beginning to peel

:19:16. > :19:21.away from Jeremy Corbyn's leadership, will you be one of them?

:19:22. > :19:27.No, from where we stand at the moment the country needs an

:19:28. > :19:31.effective opposition. The flooding, junior doctors about to go into

:19:32. > :19:33.straight for the first time in 40 years, what is going on for

:19:34. > :19:39.Britain's support for the justice system in Saudi Arabia, these are

:19:40. > :19:45.issues we should be focusing on, they are just examples. We, as a

:19:46. > :19:49.party, need to be coming together and doing the work to provide an

:19:50. > :19:54.alternative to this Government, which is a very bad government. To

:19:55. > :20:00.be an effective opposition traditionally you need to be quite a

:20:01. > :20:04.broad church, are you still? Yes, and you can see we are broad church

:20:05. > :20:09.from the make up of the Shadow Cabinet which remains a broad church

:20:10. > :20:14.even after the reshuffle. But the broad church to be effective has got

:20:15. > :20:21.to be a broad church that is not at war with itself. It has got to be a

:20:22. > :20:24.broad church looking outwards on holding the Government to account.

:20:25. > :20:29.Doesn't that mean that the NEC, the Shadow Cabinet, the Parliamentary

:20:30. > :20:35.party needs to support Jeremy Corbyn and his views? There needs to be a

:20:36. > :20:40.period of calm, there needs to be a period in which policy is debated

:20:41. > :20:48.internally. In some respects the view is that the leader has will

:20:49. > :20:52.prevail, in other respects we need proper policies put to the nation

:20:53. > :20:56.and that means we need to do what political parties do, which is work

:20:57. > :21:02.together to come to an agreement on policy both in relation to foreign

:21:03. > :21:09.affairs and defence and domestic policy and work politically. If the

:21:10. > :21:11.NEC is going to take charge of policy, like Trident, is that

:21:12. > :21:21.something you would be worried about? I don't think that will

:21:22. > :21:27.happen. The Labour Party is made ultimately by confident. In relation

:21:28. > :21:31.to Trident, there are many people employed in industries which support

:21:32. > :21:35.the Trident defence system. The unions should have a role in

:21:36. > :21:39.determining what our policy is in relation to that and I'm not aware

:21:40. > :21:45.of any detailed proposals that would change the method by which we make

:21:46. > :21:52.Wallasey. You are pro-Trident, has anybody suggested you belt up about

:21:53. > :21:57.that? No, I'm not being muzzled, and one of the reason Jeremy won the

:21:58. > :22:00.election of the leadership in the Labour Party is that people wanted a

:22:01. > :22:05.more open debate and that's what will happen. There are a lot of your

:22:06. > :22:15.friends, including the former Mr Tony himself, who are puzzled... If

:22:16. > :22:23.the policy changed on Trident, would you leave? Why is Charlie Falconer

:22:24. > :22:27.in the Shadow Cabinet? Because I believe my role is to do my best to

:22:28. > :22:31.ensure there is an effective opposition against the Government.

:22:32. > :22:35.Some would say you are legitimising a leader who cannot win an election,

:22:36. > :22:42.that's what the right of the party say. I am doing my best to make

:22:43. > :22:45.Labour effective and the broader the church that we are, the more we

:22:46. > :22:50.reach out to the public, and reaching out to the public is what

:22:51. > :22:55.we have got to do. If you will stop attacking each other, can Jeremy

:22:56. > :22:59.Corbyn become Prime Minister? He became the leader of the Labour

:23:00. > :23:03.Party, I think he can become Prime Minister. As long as there is an

:23:04. > :23:12.offer that connects with the country. This is the biggest year of

:23:13. > :23:17.decisions, like the European Union, the Labour Party is completely

:23:18. > :23:23.divided on it. We have opportunities as a party, we can only take them if

:23:24. > :23:27.we are not divided. Charlie Falconer, staying resolutely where

:23:28. > :23:29.you are, thank you for joining us this morning.

:23:30. > :23:32.This year is the 400th anniversary of Shakespeare's death and doublets

:23:33. > :23:34.and hose all round and bags of glorious ballyhoo.

:23:35. > :23:36.The Royal Shakespeare Company is announcing an astounding

:23:37. > :23:39.new production tomorrow and it's a huge year for them on many fronts.

:23:40. > :23:41.They're back at the Barbican in London,

:23:42. > :23:42.with David Tennant reviving his acclaimed Richard II,

:23:43. > :23:45.directed once more by the RSC's Artistic Director, Greg Doran.

:23:46. > :23:48.The three of us spoke earlier and David told me why he loved

:23:49. > :24:06.Is not the king's name forty thousand names?

:24:07. > :24:09.A puny subject strikes At thy great glory.

:24:10. > :24:12.Look not to the ground, Ye favourites of a king:

:24:13. > :24:15.High be our thoughts: I know my uncle York Hath power

:24:16. > :24:29.I was fascinated by the idea of this man who was born to be king,

:24:30. > :24:31.clearly, always believed in the divine right of kings,

:24:32. > :24:35.Yes, all historically true, and was in fact crowned

:24:36. > :24:38.when he was a child, so if that's been your life,

:24:39. > :24:42.You know, you can be whoever you want to be and nobody will tell

:24:43. > :24:46.And he does not want to be a macho, kind of slaughtering,

:24:47. > :24:50.He doesn't need to be because he is God's

:24:51. > :24:59.He is a unique creation and every decision he makes is correct.

:25:00. > :25:01.That's going to define an unusual personality,

:25:02. > :25:06.Greg, it's going to be a huge year for Shakespeare,

:25:07. > :25:08.obviously, and tomorrow you have got an announcement of what the RSC

:25:09. > :25:13.Just give a sense of what you are going to be saying.

:25:14. > :25:16.We have our flagship production of Midsummer Night's Dream,

:25:17. > :25:20.which is touring the entire UK, picking up Bottom

:25:21. > :25:23.and the Rude Mechanicals, an amateur group, in each place

:25:24. > :25:26.to play the Rude Mechanicals, and Titania's fairies,

:25:27. > :25:32.So schoolchildren and amateur actors will be working with the RSC.

:25:33. > :25:37.Yes, and then coming back to Stratford.

:25:38. > :25:39.Cymbeline, directed by Melly Still, the twist is that Cymbeline

:25:40. > :25:41.is the Queen of England, rather than...

:25:42. > :25:44.A bit of regendering, as we say.

:25:45. > :25:50.The finale of the year is this extraordinary production,

:25:51. > :25:59.This is the production where you will see the ship sink,

:26:00. > :26:02.Ariel fly, Juno in the mask arrive on her chariot drawn with peacocks.

:26:03. > :26:05.So it is kind of CGI on a live stage, I have no idea how

:26:06. > :26:10.It's a very new, innovative technique and Shakespeare was doing

:26:11. > :26:16.that in 1610, looking at the Jacobean mask tradition,

:26:17. > :26:20.which had spectacular effects, extraordinary lighting effects

:26:21. > :26:24.and stage scenery, and we are looking at what the cutting edge

:26:25. > :26:33.21st-century technology would be if it was applied to the Tempest.

:26:34. > :26:35.You two have worked together on three big Shakespeare,

:26:36. > :26:37.Love's Labour's Lost, Hamlet and now this.

:26:38. > :26:39.Are you running out of roles, Greg, for David?

:26:40. > :26:48.We've got one or two in the pipeline.

:26:49. > :26:49.David is hosting the Shakespeare Show.

:26:50. > :26:53.This is basically a huge knees up on Shakespeare's birthday.

:26:54. > :26:55.Exactly, it's a great variety bill of opera,

:26:56. > :27:01.ballet, jazz, hip hop, comedy, tragedy, some Shakespeare bits...

:27:02. > :27:08.Big names taking part, the sort of usual suspects,

:27:09. > :27:15.We've got Judi Dench, Ken Branagh, we've got David...

:27:16. > :27:22.Don't call them the usual suspects!

:27:23. > :27:23.Sorry! But also some surprising people.

:27:24. > :27:25.Rufus Wainwright singing the sonnets.

:27:26. > :27:27.David, you've always said doing drama, doing theatre,

:27:28. > :27:30.and above all doing Shakespeare is your proper job but you've been

:27:31. > :27:34.doing a lot of TV for Netflix in particular in the last year,

:27:35. > :27:37.but you play possibly the most vile character I've ever seen on TV.

:27:38. > :27:57.The next person whose phone rings has to eat it!

:27:58. > :28:00.You play a superhero who can make people do whatever he wants just

:28:01. > :28:10.Yes, he compels you to do whatever he wants by requesting it of you.

:28:11. > :28:13.Well, he makes some fairly poor life choices.

:28:14. > :28:16.In 30 seconds you will realise this was a hilarious joke

:28:17. > :28:28.and you will let Jessica Jones leave.

:28:29. > :28:35.Is this a kind of ticket to Hollywood next?

:28:36. > :28:47.That seems to be the way lots of people go.

:28:48. > :28:50.They get on Netflix, they become incredibly famous in

:28:51. > :28:52.the States, the next stage is the big Hollywood blockbuster films.

:28:53. > :28:57.It was a great script, and yes, it's certainly true that

:28:58. > :28:59.working for Marvel and Netflix, they do feel like two of the biggest

:29:00. > :29:02.entertainment franchises around at the moment so it's a pleasure

:29:03. > :29:04.to work for them but more importantly for me to

:29:05. > :29:08.And I can see Greg Doran looking at you, thinking

:29:09. > :29:11.but you are going to come back to the RSC again and again!

:29:12. > :29:15.Gentlemen, it's going to be a blast of the year.

:29:16. > :29:20.Of course, in Shakespeare's day, politicians who got too close

:29:21. > :29:24.to continental Europeans tended to lose their heads.

:29:25. > :29:27.Not a problem, I'm sure, for my next guest,

:29:28. > :29:42.Or it is the future of this blessed plot. That speeches about England

:29:43. > :29:47.going to the dogs by the end of it! You are in the thick of these

:29:48. > :29:52.negotiations, gave us an update of where you have got to mid-January.

:29:53. > :29:58.It is hard work but the areas I have been identified are things that

:29:59. > :30:03.drive us up the wall about Europe. I think we are on the way to getting

:30:04. > :30:07.not being an ever closer union fixed. Making sure this isn't just a

:30:08. > :30:11.single currency club but it is flexible enough for countries like

:30:12. > :30:15.Britain with our own currency, and dealing with this issue of the abuse

:30:16. > :30:21.of free movement and the pressure of migration from the EU on to Britain

:30:22. > :30:26.by amending welfare rules. It is hard work. I'm hopeful of a deal in

:30:27. > :30:32.February, and if we get that we can go ahead and hold a referendum.

:30:33. > :30:35.There is a huge prize for Britain, if we can deal with the things that

:30:36. > :30:39.drive the wall about Europe, we can get the best of both worlds, secure

:30:40. > :30:44.our economic future inside this valuable market and help keep our

:30:45. > :30:48.people safe by staying together with our close allies as we confront

:30:49. > :30:52.extremism and terrorism so it is a massive prize for Britain if we get

:30:53. > :30:58.it right. It sounds like you like you think you might get it wrapped

:30:59. > :31:03.up in February which would mean a summer referendum?

:31:04. > :31:09.Some people think it is the migration bit that is the most

:31:10. > :31:13.difficult than the others are easy. Certainly migration is difficult,

:31:14. > :31:17.but the other areas are not simple and straightforward either. My aim

:31:18. > :31:21.is clear, the best of both worlds for Britain, the massive prize of

:31:22. > :31:26.sorting out what frustrates asked about Europe, but staying in a

:31:27. > :31:31.reformed Europe. The prize is closer than it was. I will work to get that

:31:32. > :31:51.done. If you do not get it wrapped up in February because of all the

:31:52. > :32:02.time. We have legislated for the referendum. It must happen by the

:32:03. > :32:07.end of 2017. If I cannot get it done, I will keep going. It is such

:32:08. > :32:11.an important issue for the future of the country. If we get it right,

:32:12. > :32:16.there is so much benefit we can feel from it. This idea of the four year

:32:17. > :32:20.ban on European workers coming to this country before they can take in

:32:21. > :32:27.work benefits, that is still on the table, I understand. Donald Tusk and

:32:28. > :32:31.many others see it is illegal under European law. Francois Hollande and

:32:32. > :32:35.Angela Merkel have suggested a three-year delay, rather than a

:32:36. > :32:40.four-year delay. I do not understand the difference but is that possible?

:32:41. > :32:44.There are lots of suggestions being made. My position is clear, the four

:32:45. > :32:50.years remain on the table until I can see something equally meaningful

:32:51. > :32:54.and powerful. At the moment, our welfare system acts as an unnatural

:32:55. > :33:01.draw for people to come to Britain. We need to address that. We have a

:33:02. > :33:05.welfare system that, unlike many in Europe, you have instant access to

:33:06. > :33:11.and that creates difficulties. I cannot give a running commentary on

:33:12. > :33:15.the negotiations but I am confident we are able to get a good outcome.

:33:16. > :33:19.The Polish Foreign Minister says that if Britain supports Poland in

:33:20. > :33:25.getting more Nato troops into Poland, because he's very worried

:33:26. > :33:30.about Vladimir Putin, that may be a sort of quid pro quo that would

:33:31. > :33:34.allow this to happen. I read lots of things in the newspapers that are

:33:35. > :33:39.interesting and possibly worthwhile but I do not always recognise what

:33:40. > :33:42.they are. It is true that Britain supports having Nato troops in

:33:43. > :33:48.Poland. British troops regularly exercise in Poland. We will see an

:33:49. > :33:53.increase in that. But no, what we need is a tough discussion about the

:33:54. > :33:58.free movement of people on welfare, to get a good deal for Britain. You

:33:59. > :34:03.sound sympathetic to the Polish government on that. Is that in

:34:04. > :34:08.anyway linked to negotiations? Not in the conversations I have had,

:34:09. > :34:11.that has not been the case. We have spoken about lots of issues and I

:34:12. > :34:17.have made several visits to Poland. Some of the things I read in the

:34:18. > :34:20.papers do not come in line with what my own experiences. It has been

:34:21. > :34:23.suggested that because of EU legality, one way around for your

:34:24. > :34:27.problem would be that British workers could lose benefits. That

:34:28. > :34:33.seems bizarre. Is that the possibility? My aim is that the

:34:34. > :34:37.unnatural draw of the UK welfare system, the problem I am try to

:34:38. > :34:42.address, to give you figures, 60% of those who come from the EU to work

:34:43. > :34:50.in Britain are job-seekers, they do not have a job when they arise. --

:34:51. > :34:56.when they arrive. Sometimes we are adding ?10,000 to the link. To deal

:34:57. > :34:59.with that and ensure there is no discrimination between EU citizens,

:35:00. > :35:05.which is the legal problem, we might have to remove benefits from British

:35:06. > :35:08.workers? I am in the middle of the negotiation, I have hard work to do

:35:09. > :35:13.and when I have an announcement to make out will make it. Your critics

:35:14. > :35:19.in the party say that this is camouflaged, David Cameron is

:35:20. > :35:22.determined we will stay in the EU almost under any circumstances, and

:35:23. > :35:27.he is determined to lead the in campaign when it comes. I am

:35:28. > :35:31.determined to fulfil what we put in our manifesto, the renegotiation.

:35:32. > :35:42.The best answer for Britain is to stay in a reformed European Union

:35:43. > :35:45.and get those changes. If we do not get them, I am ruling nothing out,

:35:46. > :35:48.and I mean that. They do not believe you. Not everyone sits with me in

:35:49. > :35:51.those negotiations. I have been to 42 European Council since being

:35:52. > :35:57.Prime Minister. I know what can and cannot be delivered. If you stop and

:35:58. > :36:01.ask people, what bugs you about Europe, lots of people save it was

:36:02. > :36:06.too much of a political union. I say, let's get out of that. People

:36:07. > :36:12.say, I wear more or less competitive in Europe? I see we have got to fix

:36:13. > :36:14.this. Europe should be completing the single market, making sure that

:36:15. > :36:21.regulations come down rather than up. These are the things that people

:36:22. > :36:25.on fixed in Europe. If it was easy, I would have fixed them. Coming out

:36:26. > :36:31.of Europe would be a massive problem for us. If this is a genuinely open

:36:32. > :36:36.question, presumably we have plans as a government? We have plans for a

:36:37. > :36:41.renegotiation, the referendum, and of course, then the British public

:36:42. > :36:46.will make their decision. We must obey that decision whatever it is.

:36:47. > :36:50.That is the nature of a referendum. Are you as a government prepared for

:36:51. > :36:54.the possibility of us leaving the EU? I do not think that is the right

:36:55. > :37:01.answer for the reasons I have given, but whether it to be the answer, we

:37:02. > :37:04.would have to do every thing necessary to make that work. In the

:37:05. > :37:08.manifesto, it is the public that will decide, not the politicians. I

:37:09. > :37:12.the civil service working on a contingency for this? They are

:37:13. > :37:17.working around the clock to support my renegotiation. I suspect the

:37:18. > :37:21.answer is no. Ministers are not allowed to work on a contingency.

:37:22. > :37:26.That suggest a lots of people that there is no expectation we will

:37:27. > :37:32.leave the EU. It is smoke and mirrors. This is not simple or easy.

:37:33. > :37:37.All of the four areas I am talking about, sovereignty, the strength of

:37:38. > :37:41.national parliaments, adding to your's competitiveness, migration,

:37:42. > :37:45.all of those are difficult, and the civil service is working with me to

:37:46. > :37:49.help deliver those things. If we fail to deliver them and have to

:37:50. > :37:53.take a different stance, that is a new situation. My goal is

:37:54. > :37:59.renegotiation and a referendum to secure Britain's plays in a reformed

:38:00. > :38:03.European Union. Will the British Parliament be sovereign after these

:38:04. > :38:09.negotiations? Yes, the British Parliament is sovereign now, we made

:38:10. > :38:14.that clear in 2010. If the British Parliament wants to alter its

:38:15. > :38:17.arrangements, it can. I was taught the British constitution can be

:38:18. > :38:22.summed up in aid words, what the Queen and acts in Parliament is

:38:23. > :38:27.love. Whether we are in or out of the EU, that is crucial. If we need

:38:28. > :38:32.to reaffirm that more and put it up in lights, I am happy to do so. I

:38:33. > :38:37.often say to my European colleagues, Britain is not difficult about these

:38:38. > :38:43.matters, we are just immensely proud of our long history of strong,

:38:44. > :38:47.democratic institutions. We joined Europe trade, corporation, working

:38:48. > :38:50.together. We do not want to bury ourselves in some European

:38:51. > :38:56.superstate. That is why Britain is not in the single currency, we are

:38:57. > :39:02.not in the Schengen zone, we will never sign up to a European army.

:39:03. > :39:06.There is a very strong patriotic is far in gauge meant on the continent

:39:07. > :39:11.of Europe from a British perspective. We have talked about

:39:12. > :39:14.this a lot, year ago, and a year ago, I said, what about cabinet

:39:15. > :39:26.ministers that take a different line and you were clear, you said, no --

:39:27. > :39:31.no, Cabinet responsibility. I was on your programme as recently as a

:39:32. > :39:34.cobra. I said that the decision about collective responsibility

:39:35. > :39:40.would be taken at the conclusion of the negotiation. I hope we are close

:39:41. > :39:44.to that, and that has always been my intention. You cannot as people who

:39:45. > :39:48.are very long-standing, sincerely held views to campaign in a

:39:49. > :39:55.different way. That is what will happen. There are people in your

:39:56. > :39:58.cabinet, I think, who will vote to leave, whatever happens. Other

:39:59. > :40:02.people will wait to see the results of the negotiations. How much does

:40:03. > :40:07.it matter to you that you can win over the majority of the Cabinet? I

:40:08. > :40:13.want as many people supporting the side I am on, which ever side that

:40:14. > :40:15.is, when the time comes, as is possible. The government will not be

:40:16. > :40:21.neutral about this issue with people on one side or the other. My

:40:22. > :40:24.intention is that the conclusion of the negotiation, Cabinet has a

:40:25. > :40:29.discussion and reaches a clear recommendation to the British people

:40:30. > :40:32.of what we should do. I hope that we'll be staying in a reformed

:40:33. > :40:37.European Union because I will have got a good negotiation for Britain.

:40:38. > :40:41.At that point, a clear government position, I am saying that members

:40:42. > :40:44.of the Cabinet, ministers with long-standing held views on a

:40:45. > :40:50.different basis, they will be able to campaign. And come back again

:40:51. > :40:56.afterwards? Of course, they will not leave. Very much as happened on

:40:57. > :40:59.previous occasions. You may have heard Tim Montgomerie earlier on.

:41:00. > :41:04.Some people are concerned that at the moment it is OK if you're in the

:41:05. > :41:09.Cabinet to come out, as Philip Hammond bid, and say, these are the

:41:10. > :41:13.reasons why we want to stay in Europe, a say, these are the reasons

:41:14. > :41:22.we want to leave. People who are for your position are able to speak but

:41:23. > :41:25.people who are against are muzzled until the negotiations are over.

:41:26. > :41:27.That is the wrong premise. It is not my position, it is the position of

:41:28. > :41:33.the government. Iain Duncan Smith cannot come into this debate and

:41:34. > :41:38.make the case for leaving the EU because of his Cabinet position. The

:41:39. > :41:42.best outcome would be to keep Britain in a reformed European

:41:43. > :41:46.Union. That is the position of the government. Anyone sitting in this

:41:47. > :41:49.chair from my team should be making that argument. When we have

:41:50. > :41:55.completed the negotiation, people who take a different view will be

:41:56. > :42:01.able to do so. I think that is fair, sensible, reasonable, what happened

:42:02. > :42:05.in the past. At the end of the referendum, the Conservative Party

:42:06. > :42:08.has to come back together. It is important these discussions are

:42:09. > :42:12.reasonable. All around the country, I can hear the twinkle of people

:42:13. > :42:17.throwing their mobile phones at the television sets, get onto something

:42:18. > :42:23.else, they are saying. You want to demolish lots of council estates.

:42:24. > :42:25.Can you explain the plan? It is straightforward, we have an economy

:42:26. > :42:31.where we are generating hundreds of thousands of new jobs. We have

:42:32. > :42:34.rising wages, taxes coming down. There are good prospects for people

:42:35. > :42:40.but we have to many people in the country who are stuck, left behind,

:42:41. > :42:43.sometimes permanently left behind. If we are really going to have a

:42:44. > :42:47.society with greater equality of opportunity, more chances for

:42:48. > :42:52.people, we have to deal with the things that hold people back. We

:42:53. > :42:56.have done things to help with good education, with the reforms in the

:42:57. > :43:00.last parliament, but I think that sink housing estates, where people

:43:01. > :43:05.can feel trapped in poverty, unable to get on, I think it is time, with

:43:06. > :43:09.government money, but with massive Private and perhaps pension sector

:43:10. > :43:16.help, to demolish the worst of these and rebuild houses that people feel

:43:17. > :43:20.they can have a future in. A greater intensity of housing is well? In

:43:21. > :43:24.some cases, the odd thing about these high-rise blocks, the way they

:43:25. > :43:28.have been structured, they do not provide a massive number of houses.

:43:29. > :43:34.The demolishing them, you might be able to provide better and more

:43:35. > :43:37.houses at the same time. The crucial question is what they do provide

:43:38. > :43:43.traditionally is social housing for rent. Will there be as many social

:43:44. > :43:46.housing units for rent as they were before after this project is

:43:47. > :43:54.finished? It depends how you define... I want affordable housing.

:43:55. > :43:58.That is a different town. When people hear that town, they often

:43:59. > :44:03.think the government means that is affordable for me to buy, I can

:44:04. > :44:05.become a homeowner. Then they discover that for years affordable

:44:06. > :44:11.housing has only meant housing for rent. I think we need both, but yes,

:44:12. > :44:15.we should have a big shift towards more affordable housing to buy. You

:44:16. > :44:21.always need some affordable housing for rent. Most people in the

:44:22. > :44:26.country, getting a job, getting together with a partner, they want a

:44:27. > :44:32.home of their own. You have this great vista of London behind us. In

:44:33. > :44:38.London, the average house ?500,000. We have to build more houses.

:44:39. > :44:44.?900,000 for a single flat sometimes behind me. Some people cannot afford

:44:45. > :44:47.that. They need somewhere to rent. With the new Housing Bill on this

:44:48. > :44:50.proposal, there is less social housing of the traditional cane,

:44:51. > :44:56.more and more Private rented housing. Lots of people are having a

:44:57. > :45:00.tough time. The government is changing the planning system so we

:45:01. > :45:03.build more houses, doubling the housing budget, because we are

:45:04. > :45:08.making that our priority, introducing more shared ownership,

:45:09. > :45:12.so you can on sharing the house and parents as well, and then these new

:45:13. > :45:18.starter homes, which will be 20% of the market price, available from

:45:19. > :45:21.people under the age of 40, as we promised in our manifesto. Help To

:45:22. > :45:23.Buy was a massive boost for people to get on the housing ladder. We are

:45:24. > :45:34.helping them with their mortgage. For those people in council housing,

:45:35. > :45:41.can you promised there will be as many such places for them at the end

:45:42. > :45:44.of your term as there is now? Well, we want more, and the key thing for

:45:45. > :45:50.people in those properties are that we are giving them a chance to buy

:45:51. > :45:55.them. Recently I have had so many people saying, please get on with

:45:56. > :46:03.this right to buy. I would love to be able to buy my home and we will

:46:04. > :46:10.deliver that. Over the last year, Right To Buy takes a lot more social

:46:11. > :46:21.housing out of the country than it puts in. For those people who cannot

:46:22. > :46:26.afford to buy, the number of properties they can rent is going

:46:27. > :46:30.down and down. That's why an amendment to the Housing Bill, who

:46:31. > :46:34.was put forward by Zac Goldsmith, who will be a mayoral candidate, for

:46:35. > :46:42.every one of these high cost social houses that we sell, we will build

:46:43. > :46:49.at least two new rental houses. In London, you sometimes get council

:46:50. > :46:54.houses that become vacant, worth up to ?800,000, and we are saying that

:46:55. > :46:59.sell those houses and use that money, sometimes up to ?1 million or

:47:00. > :47:06.more. We can use that money for some to rent and some which are

:47:07. > :47:10.affordable to buy. You mentioned the economy and you are upbeat about it,

:47:11. > :47:15.there seems a marked change of tone from the Autumn Statement when ?27

:47:16. > :47:20.billion appeared from behind the back of the sofa, and there is this

:47:21. > :47:25.generally sunny air, things didn't need to be as tight as we thought,

:47:26. > :47:30.to this cocktail of risks ahead for the British economy, why has the

:47:31. > :47:36.mood changed so rapidly? It is right that we are warning of risks, we

:47:37. > :47:41.have the slowing of the Chinese economy, this dislocation in the

:47:42. > :47:46.east and concerns in the global economy. We must stick to the

:47:47. > :47:49.long-term economic plan, keep getting the deficit down, keep

:47:50. > :47:55.making sure Britain is competitive and I think it was a powerful speech

:47:56. > :47:59.on that basis. There are internal threat too, we have something that

:48:00. > :48:05.is close to an asset problem at the moment. House prices have been

:48:06. > :48:12.shooting up around the country. One thing we know about the bubble is

:48:13. > :48:16.that it essentially bursts. We have domestic borrowing now higher per

:48:17. > :48:22.household than it was before the crash. I wonder about how alarmed

:48:23. > :48:26.you are about the asset bubble, and the amount people are borrowing on

:48:27. > :48:30.their credit cards. You have got to look at borrowing as a percentage of

:48:31. > :48:37.income rather than borrowing alone, but these sorts of concerns are why

:48:38. > :48:41.we gave the Bank of England the proper independent ability to call

:48:42. > :48:46.time on excessive levels of borrowing in banks, building

:48:47. > :48:50.societies or the economy. They have taken some steps already. We had

:48:51. > :48:54.these very low interest rate for a long time, they have taken some

:48:55. > :49:00.steps on the mortgage market to make sure people are not taking out

:49:01. > :49:04.mortgages they cannot afford. In the Budget we took steps on the

:49:05. > :49:11.buy-to-let phenomenon, which needs to be kept ... We think interest

:49:12. > :49:17.rates are about to go up again, are you not concerned we are heading

:49:18. > :49:20.toward something quite nasty? We need to make sure government plays

:49:21. > :49:25.the right role, get our borrowing down and we are doing that, making

:49:26. > :49:30.sure there are jobs for people to take, and now you can see jobs with

:49:31. > :49:35.rising salaries and lower taxes so people are better able to service

:49:36. > :49:40.any debts. So you are not worried about the economy? I worry about

:49:41. > :49:46.everything, that is my job. You should take advice from financial

:49:47. > :49:51.advisers and listen to what the Bank of England says. We identified this

:49:52. > :49:54.in opposition, the real problem, that there was no clear authority

:49:55. > :49:59.responsible for the overall level of borrowing in the economy, and to

:50:00. > :50:03.warn when things were getting out of control. We now have a highly

:50:04. > :50:09.capable independent governor of the Bank of England, and we have vested

:50:10. > :50:12.in that organisation the ability to deal with excessive levels of

:50:13. > :50:20.borrowing and I think we should listen to them and let them set... .

:50:21. > :50:24.Highly capable man is also worried about the current account deficit as

:50:25. > :50:30.it is now called. In basic terms we are not paying our way in the world,

:50:31. > :50:36.not selling enough in goods or services to pay our way in the

:50:37. > :50:39.world. We need to do better. We take China, we have seen a doubling of

:50:40. > :50:44.our exports since I have been Prime Minister but there are other markets

:50:45. > :50:50.we are doing less well. An export drive is a key part of our plans but

:50:51. > :51:00.we shouldn't talk ourselves down. We were the star economy of the G7 in

:51:01. > :51:04.2014... I am testing the extent... There is a strong economy that is

:51:05. > :51:10.resilient, borrowing is coming down, but all of the risk factors we faced

:51:11. > :51:21.- are we productive enough? Are we exporting enough? No, no... We have

:51:22. > :51:29.a strong economy, a capable Chancellor, a team that can address

:51:30. > :51:33.all of these challenges. You are now seeing really good growth in

:51:34. > :51:37.business investment because people believe the British economy is

:51:38. > :51:42.strong and can get stronger. A couple of foreign affairs cookies if

:51:43. > :51:50.I may. We were told when we are going to the war in Syria that these

:51:51. > :51:57.new Brimstone missiles America didn't have but we did, how many

:51:58. > :52:04.will be fired? There has been an attack on Ramadi, that's the key

:52:05. > :52:10.thing. This will take a very long time as I always said. Saudi Arabia,

:52:11. > :52:15.47 people executed by the kingdom last week, some of them terrorists,

:52:16. > :52:18.not all of them, some of them perfectly ordinary peaceful

:52:19. > :52:22.demonstrators who were grabbed by police, given a secret trial and

:52:23. > :52:26.beheaded. The response of the Government was that this was

:52:27. > :52:34.disappointing. The last time I looked I was the Prime Minister, and

:52:35. > :52:39.I have condemned it on television. Is there anything more we can do

:52:40. > :52:44.because we have tight ties with Saudi Arabia. Of course we should

:52:45. > :52:49.condemn it. We have many disagreements with Saudi Arabia, but

:52:50. > :52:53.there is a bigger question which is do we think it is necessary to have

:52:54. > :52:59.a strong relationship with Saudi Arabia for our own safety and

:53:00. > :53:03.security? My answer is yes. You can have a foreign policy based on

:53:04. > :53:09.issuing press releases or one based on trying to keep our people safe

:53:10. > :53:11.and frankly I know what my job is. For now, thank you.

:53:12. > :53:35.Now over to Ben for the news headlines.

:53:36. > :53:37.David Cameron has said that he remains hopeful of a deal

:53:38. > :53:39.next month on Britain's relationship with the European Union.

:53:40. > :53:42.Speaking on this programme, the Prime Minister emphasised his

:53:43. > :53:43.determination to negotiate a reformed EU.

:53:44. > :53:46.Mr Cameron said he doesn't think leaving the EU would be best

:53:47. > :53:49.for Britain and that he wishes to secure "the best of both worlds"

:53:50. > :53:51.with Britain remaining in Europe when negotiations

:53:52. > :53:54.However, if Britain voted to leave the EU in a referendum,

:53:55. > :53:57.the Prime Minister accepted that the government would 'have

:53:58. > :54:00.The chairwoman of a Labour pressure group has resigned from the post

:54:01. > :54:03.after claiming that it is impossible to work with

:54:04. > :54:05.Her decision to quit her role with the Progress

:54:06. > :54:08.group comes after the resignation of three junior ministers

:54:09. > :54:09.following Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn's reshuffle

:54:10. > :54:11.of his Shadow Cabinet earlier this week.

:54:12. > :54:14.The next news on BBC One is at one o'clock.

:54:15. > :54:18.First, a look at what's coming up immediately after this programme.

:54:19. > :54:25.We will be live in Canterbury at ten o'clock, debating the DRS' right to

:54:26. > :54:29.strike, free speech at universities, and can the Anglican Communion stay

:54:30. > :54:30.together? See you at ten o'clock on BBC One.

:54:31. > :54:32.And the Prime Minister is still with me.

:54:33. > :54:41.One of the things we didn't talk about, if you lose the referendum do

:54:42. > :54:46.you stay as Prime Minister? The answer to that is yes, my policy is

:54:47. > :54:51.to hold a renegotiation and then a referendum and then to abide by what

:54:52. > :54:55.the British public say. I hope that answer will be staying in a reformed

:54:56. > :54:59.Europe but I think it is important that people don't get... The

:55:00. > :55:06.question on the ballot paper is clear, stay in or go, not this

:55:07. > :55:15.politician's future. That is important or we don't get the clear

:55:16. > :55:19.answer we need! The policy is clear, renegotiate, hold the referendum,

:55:20. > :55:24.and people across the UK have wanted this to happen. They wanted choice

:55:25. > :55:30.is not between the status quo and leaving but the best possible deal

:55:31. > :55:36.for Britain or leaving. It would be a shattering blow to your own

:55:37. > :55:43.authority if you lose, wouldn't it? I promised the referendum and I must

:55:44. > :55:47.deliver it. We have had nanny state policies recently about smoking, now

:55:48. > :55:52.about alcohol. I wonder if at the end of a long day negotiating, you

:55:53. > :55:55.have had trouble with the kids, maybe Samantha has been on your back

:55:56. > :56:00.about something, you turn on the television and have a nice cup of

:56:01. > :56:07.tea, is that what it will be like? Come on. No, I often have a drink in

:56:08. > :56:13.the evening after a long day. These are recommendations. The Government

:56:14. > :56:19.doesn't get consulted on how many units it should be. It is important

:56:20. > :56:27.these things are independent. We always suspected nanny was a Tory.

:56:28. > :56:29.Well, this Tory isn't a nanny! Thank you very much indeed.

:56:30. > :56:31.We're almost out of time this morning.

:56:32. > :56:35.Andrew Neil and the Sunday Politics team will be here in an hour

:56:36. > :56:37.with more on that latest Labour resignation.

:56:38. > :56:40.Join me again at the same time next Sunday when I'll be talking

:56:41. > :56:44.Plus the actor many critics think will be picking up

:56:45. > :56:45.an Oscar next month - Hollywood superstar

:56:46. > :56:49.But for now, we leave you with Squeeze and the title track

:56:50. > :56:51.from their latest album, 'Cradle To The Grave'.

:56:52. > :57:59.# They say time will not stand still.

:58:00. > :58:10.# From the cradle to the grave # I know I won't be a slave

:58:11. > :58:12.# To the mistakes I have made # I will get there when I'm ready

:58:13. > :58:33.# From the cradle to the grave #

:58:34. > :58:40.There are people who are hell bent on destruction of the state

:58:41. > :58:46.# From the cradle to the grave # I know I won't be a slave

:58:47. > :58:55.# To the mistakes I have made # But I get there when I'm ready

:58:56. > :59:01.# No, I won't go till I'm ready # No, I won't go till I'm ready

:59:02. > :59:03.# From the cradle to the grave #.