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:00:00. > :00:00.After a terrible week for David Cameron,

:00:00. > :00:11.the Prime Minister takes it on the chin.

:00:12. > :00:33.Is it time for everyone to open the books?

:00:34. > :00:36.Responding to the political crisis, I'm joined today by the Labour

:00:37. > :00:42.And speaking for the Government, the Cabinet Minister Amber Rudd.

:00:43. > :00:46.But it's been another important week in the European debate too,

:00:47. > :00:48.and we're joined today by the former Chancellor Lord Lawson,

:00:49. > :00:58.now a leader of the campaign to get us out of the EU.

:00:59. > :01:03.Here to review the papers, Iain Dale, the Conservative

:01:04. > :01:05.commentator and publisher, and Polly Toynbee of the Guardian,

:01:06. > :01:07.which has been leading the way in British press

:01:08. > :01:12.With the Queen's 90th birthday round the corner,

:01:13. > :01:16.Dame Helen Mirren's been telling me about her part in the pageant.

:01:17. > :01:21.Will she take to the stage as the Queen in front of the Queen?

:01:22. > :01:29.The Queen will be the Queen, she is much better at it than I am!

:01:30. > :01:32.And we've got music from Southern California

:01:33. > :01:53.The Prime Minister has published details of his income and tax

:01:54. > :01:56.payments over the past six years, in an effort to defuse controversy

:01:57. > :02:02.David Cameron has faced difficult headlines after disclosing

:02:03. > :02:04.that he profited from shares in an offshore trust set

:02:05. > :02:11.CHANTING: David Cameron, shame on you!

:02:12. > :02:15.All week, David Cameron has been under pressure on his tax affairs.

:02:16. > :02:18.Yesterday, he faced protestors calling for more transparency.

:02:19. > :02:24.The first Prime Minister in history to set out so many details

:02:25. > :02:27.about his income and the tax he pays on it.

:02:28. > :02:29.There is no evidence of tax avoidance, just further

:02:30. > :02:37.We already knew that David Cameron received ?300,000 when his father

:02:38. > :02:41.died in 2010 but we now know he got a further ?200,000 from his mother

:02:42. > :02:45.Downing Street denied suggestions that this was done

:02:46. > :02:51.Instead, it was to share the inheritance more fairly

:02:52. > :02:59.And a leading tax expert says the evidence is

:03:00. > :03:01.that the Prime Minister has payed everything that is due.

:03:02. > :03:05.I think the main point from these tax returns is that he has put

:03:06. > :03:07.to bed all the criticism and he has clearly paid all

:03:08. > :03:11.And even beyond that, he set the bar very high

:03:12. > :03:14.for future Prime Ministers by going beyond the call of duty.

:03:15. > :03:16.The new details also revealed that the Prime Minister

:03:17. > :03:18.and his wife, Samantha, were taxed on the ?47,000

:03:19. > :03:20.they got each last year from renting out their home

:03:21. > :03:27.in London's Notting Hill while living in Downing Street.

:03:28. > :03:30.But critics say David Cameron still has questions to answer.

:03:31. > :03:33.Why has only a four-page summary of his tax returns been produced

:03:34. > :03:36.and not the full returns which go to Revenue and Customs?

:03:37. > :03:39.And did any of the money that he received from shares

:03:40. > :03:41.while he was Leader of the Opposition come from other

:03:42. > :03:43.overseas trusts as well as from his father's investment company?

:03:44. > :03:46.If the Prime Minister thought that greater transparency

:03:47. > :03:48.would bring better headlines, he may well be thinking

:03:49. > :03:55.The Prime Minister has announced that a new task force

:03:56. > :03:59.will investigate allegations of tax dodging and money laundering,

:04:00. > :04:06.The unit will be led by HM Revenue and Customs and the National Crime

:04:07. > :04:08.Agency, and will include specialists from the Serious Fraud Office

:04:09. > :04:17.Police in India say more than 80 people have been killed and 200

:04:18. > :04:20.injured in a fire at a Hindu temple in the southern state of Kerala.

:04:21. > :04:22.The blaze started during celebrations in the early

:04:23. > :04:26.It's thought it could have been sparked by fireworks.

:04:27. > :04:29.Thousands of people had gathered in the grounds of the Puttingal

:04:30. > :04:35.The Medical Director of NHS England says junior doctors

:04:36. > :04:39.will cause irreparable damage to their profession if they go ahead

:04:40. > :04:44.with strike action extending to emergency care later this month.

:04:45. > :04:48.Writing in the Observer, Sir Bruce Keogh says the planned

:04:49. > :04:50.walkout in England in a dispute about a new contract will put

:04:51. > :04:58.The British Medical Association said the action could be avoided, if

:04:59. > :05:05.I'll be back with the headlines just before 10am.

:05:06. > :05:21.As he heard, the front pages or not terribly nice reading for the Prime

:05:22. > :05:26.Minister, the Observer, relatively neutral, Cameron faces questions

:05:27. > :05:29.over ?200,000 gift from his mother and again, relatively neutral, the

:05:30. > :05:36.Prime Minister reveals hidden wealth in the Sunday Times. Less neutral is

:05:37. > :05:43.the Telegraph, Cameron in line to avoid inheritance tax of ?80,000. Is

:05:44. > :05:49.that fair? The tax bill dodge on his mother 's gift, says the Daily Mail.

:05:50. > :05:55.Particularly hostile, you would expect, the Sunday Mirror, the

:05:56. > :05:59.?200,000 gift from mummy. Class War in the headlines. Moving away from

:06:00. > :06:07.the headlines, let's get the details. The Observer? There is no

:06:08. > :06:12.big story in the papers, nothing new apart from this gift from his mother

:06:13. > :06:19.and if you look at the Observer, the inside pages, if you strokes of luck

:06:20. > :06:24.but no shady shenanigans and you might expect the Observer to have a

:06:25. > :06:29.go at David Cameron but they do not, they had detailed his tax return and

:06:30. > :06:34.are some interesting things in taxable expenses, ?10,000 which some

:06:35. > :06:41.people will be interested in, royalties from a book by Dylan

:06:42. > :06:47.Jones. Basically, as he lied? He has not, nothing illegal, he has paid

:06:48. > :06:50.his taxes. That should be the end of it and the Observer says that is

:06:51. > :06:56.exactly what it is. Let us talk about this ?200,000 gift because

:06:57. > :07:02.that is an every front page. What has happened is his mother has given

:07:03. > :07:07.him money and she does not lie within seven years of being handed

:07:08. > :07:11.over, he will not pay inheritance tax and that is something millions

:07:12. > :07:16.of families do across the country. There is nothing abnormal about that

:07:17. > :07:20.practice? That is the real story, not about him having done anything

:07:21. > :07:29.abnormal for people as rich as him, simply being that rich. That is not

:07:30. > :07:34.a crime. Once it is exposed in that regular way, it shocks people,

:07:35. > :07:38.people know that the lot of them are multimillionaires and the elected

:07:39. > :07:44.them as such but what Downing Street said, which is reasonable, this is

:07:45. > :07:54.the kind of sensible, legal and proper tax planning that millions of

:07:55. > :07:58.ordinary people do. Hang on, only one out of 20 estates pay any

:07:59. > :08:04.inheritance tax. Because they were so small most people do not have

:08:05. > :08:11.that wealth, this is phenomenally rich. This is the top 5% and they

:08:12. > :08:16.are talking about them as ordinary but it is not. As highest prices

:08:17. > :08:22.increase, more people are being dragged into inheritance tax. The

:08:23. > :08:29.OBR had figures showing that had the most, it might get to one in ten.

:08:30. > :08:34.That is quite a lot. We should abolish inheritance tax altogether

:08:35. > :08:39.because it is double taxation. Not really because the houses have not

:08:40. > :08:46.been taxed, 90% do not pay any inheritance tax so that is shocking,

:08:47. > :08:52.he has not done anything abnormal. The politics of envy? Nobody will be

:08:53. > :08:56.shocked. This is a sort of thing that happens around the country

:08:57. > :09:00.every day of the week. Readers of the Sunday Mirror, the Prime

:09:01. > :09:04.Minister gets ?200,000 as a gift from his mother, showing the kind of

:09:05. > :09:10.people they are. And the kind of people most people would aspire to

:09:11. > :09:18.be. That is tax planning. This shows what is normal, only one in four

:09:19. > :09:21.people aged under 35 can buy, can get onto the property ladder so

:09:22. > :09:27.while there is enormous wealth at the top, at the bottom, amongst the

:09:28. > :09:31.young, only one in four people can buy themselves a home so what this

:09:32. > :09:38.is about is the extraordinary growth of inequality in this country over

:09:39. > :09:41.many decades. And the grudge this creates and it is difficult for

:09:42. > :09:48.politicians to navigate and unless they can correct that, this will go

:09:49. > :09:52.one. There are things we can do, we should perhaps be banned from owning

:09:53. > :09:59.second homes, we contributed to the problem. Absolutely. If there is an

:10:00. > :10:04.element of class envy about this, we do so many papers on the right join

:10:05. > :10:11.in? Perhaps more viciously than on the left? What is going on? There is

:10:12. > :10:14.this theory that the Eurosceptic papers have it in for David Cameron

:10:15. > :10:20.so they will bash more than they otherwise might have done but the

:10:21. > :10:26.Observer, which is not right-wing, as it also made the Brexit would

:10:27. > :10:30.likely? The Prime Minister would not pretend he has handled this well, he

:10:31. > :10:34.said he had not, he is guilty of certain hypocrisy of his comments on

:10:35. > :10:40.Jimmy Carter but when you look at those details, tax experts and he

:10:41. > :10:46.has done nothing wrong, trusts and Ireland, selling the shares... That

:10:47. > :10:52.is effectively a tax haven. It is an EU member. Has this made the Brexit

:10:53. > :10:58.more likely? I cannot see the connection. This is interesting. He

:10:59. > :11:02.Sunday Telegraph and the Mail on Sunday, the most hostile to the

:11:03. > :11:10.Prime Minister on the front pages. Owned by the Berkeley brothers, from

:11:11. > :11:18.the Channel Islands! Ian Birrell, you think this is about money? It is

:11:19. > :11:24.about Brexit, what you say, those campaigners, that chunk of the Tory

:11:25. > :11:28.party rabidly Eurosceptic, taking revenge on David Cameron over the

:11:29. > :11:36.referendum. I am interested in the centre spread, page three, the

:11:37. > :11:41.Sunday Times, the story goes on, it is about what happens if we vote to

:11:42. > :11:44.leave the EU, what he does if it is a narrow vote to stay in and it has

:11:45. > :11:50.been suggested he brings back Boris Johnson and Michael Gove as

:11:51. > :11:52.potentially deputy Prime Minister? They do not suggest what Boris

:11:53. > :11:57.Johnson might have and that is a problem, what job to give him. We

:11:58. > :12:02.could not be transport because of the Heathrow decision so that is

:12:03. > :12:06.out. Culture, media and sport? That is quite low ranking. Home

:12:07. > :12:12.Secretary? Get rid of the most successful in living memory, Theresa

:12:13. > :12:15.May? I do not think so. You would not give Boris Johnson anything that

:12:16. > :12:21.involves technical details. You would not give him benefits... A

:12:22. > :12:28.special present to the junior doctors, health secretary. Michael

:12:29. > :12:30.Gove, to my mind, people in the Conservative party are trying to

:12:31. > :12:36.promote him as the next leader. He always said he would not have that

:12:37. > :12:41.but like Boris Johnson, who knows? You are assuming we're voting to

:12:42. > :12:46.leave, if we vote to stay, Cameron could sweep the lot of them away.

:12:47. > :12:54.That would be very good for party cohesion? ! Worries that? The Civil

:12:55. > :12:58.War in the Tory party is greater... You underestimate the tendency of

:12:59. > :13:04.the Tory party to come together after crisis. After the 23rd of

:13:05. > :13:09.June, I suspect it will be different and if not... I think it is much

:13:10. > :13:14.more severe than that. If we Vote Leave, what happens to the Prime

:13:15. > :13:18.Minister? He has gone the next day. If he lost the Scottish referendum,

:13:19. > :13:23.he would have resigned. If you are going to resign over that, this is

:13:24. > :13:26.far bigger. I hesitate to say this because people in Scotland will hate

:13:27. > :13:31.me but this is bigger than the Scottish referendum. And it will

:13:32. > :13:34.lead to Scotland going for the break-up of the UK and we will be

:13:35. > :13:39.handing over to Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Chris Grayling, Nigel

:13:40. > :13:47.Farage, to run the country! Excellent! I much how much irony

:13:48. > :13:51.there was in that! And big story... The Labour Party, John McDonnell

:13:52. > :13:55.last week was talking about anti-Semitism and he was very strong

:13:56. > :14:00.about having nothing to do with it. This will not go away? They should

:14:01. > :14:05.immediately fire him forever and not taken back, Faber is unable to

:14:06. > :14:09.control its various wings at local parties when people say appalling

:14:10. > :14:14.things and are suddenly back in offices. What is interesting, we

:14:15. > :14:19.will talk to Jeremy Corbyn, Labour MPs, a group of them urging him, he

:14:20. > :14:24.is making his only important speech about Europe before the elections,

:14:25. > :14:32.this week, urging him to be really tough. Labour is entirely united and

:14:33. > :14:37.were irony in this? Nowhere. This has been in, out from the Tory party

:14:38. > :14:39.and this is because Jeremy Corbyn and the people around him have

:14:40. > :14:43.simply failed, they do not think this is important whereas for

:14:44. > :14:48.everybody else in the country it is the most important thing for the

:14:49. > :14:53.generation. It is because they are about as Eurosceptic as I am! Ask

:14:54. > :14:58.him about that! They are quite. We have talked about that, they have

:14:59. > :15:04.voted against the EU in the past and they come from a tradition, in many

:15:05. > :15:09.ways, that has seen Europe as for bankers... The problem for John

:15:10. > :15:14.McDonnell and Jeremy Corbyn on Europe is if they sign up to the EU,

:15:15. > :15:17.they have to support the Transatlantic Trade Investment

:15:18. > :15:19.Partnership which is basically a big business racket. Will they really do

:15:20. > :15:27.that? They keep saying, we will make our

:15:28. > :15:32.own arrangements with America, do you think Britain on its own will

:15:33. > :15:41.make a better deal than it can interrupt? Absolutely. Not a chance.

:15:42. > :15:45.One of the story that caught my attention, the front page of the

:15:46. > :15:52.Sunday Times, this big photo of British Muslims by Trevor Phillips.

:15:53. > :15:57.This is allied to a small article about Siddique Khan, the candidate

:15:58. > :16:03.format of London. According to the Sunday Times, in 2004 he said he

:16:04. > :16:07.wanted every as of sharia law introduced to the UK, particularly

:16:08. > :16:14.on inheritance tax, divided between wives. His spokesman insists he has

:16:15. > :16:18.always opposed Sharia law, he says there is no place for it in the UK,

:16:19. > :16:24.but this survey shows it is not the view of the majority of Muslims.

:16:25. > :16:30.Wives should always about their husbands, 39%. It is acceptable for

:16:31. > :16:37.British Muslims to have more than one wife, 31%. If you look at older

:16:38. > :16:44.people who born abroad, quite a lot of that is quite like Britain 50

:16:45. > :16:49.years ago. Polygamy less popular, though it depends which circles you

:16:50. > :16:52.moved in. A lot of people would have said wives should obey their

:16:53. > :17:00.husbands. Strong hostility to homosexuality. Love, honour and

:17:01. > :17:04.obey, in the Church of England. I cover a lot of these Muslim issues.

:17:05. > :17:09.The people that phone in to talk about them do not reflect that. They

:17:10. > :17:17.are very much integrated and all the rest of it. But this survey will

:17:18. > :17:23.include all Muslims,... Hot Muslims want gay sex to be outlawed. -- half

:17:24. > :17:32.of Muslims. The next generation will be different. Older people amongst

:17:33. > :17:40.the white population are also... Well worth it. An interesting review

:17:41. > :17:46.of the papers, pretty, defensive. -- pretty comprehensive.

:17:47. > :17:53.Something of a respite from April showers today. In spite of the

:17:54. > :17:57.sunshine, it was quite a cold start, with a touch of Frost. There is rain

:17:58. > :18:05.in the North of Scotland and the south-west of England, and strong

:18:06. > :18:10.wind. It is generating large waves. We could see some coastal flooding

:18:11. > :18:12.for the south coast of Cornwall. Elsewhere, increasingly hazy

:18:13. > :18:24.sunshine through Wales, the Midlands, East Anglia. Generally, it

:18:25. > :18:28.is warmer than yesterday. The rain in northern Scotland becomes light

:18:29. > :18:31.and patchy by this evening. More rain drifting towards the Midlands,

:18:32. > :18:37.parts of Wales and into Northern Ireland. Elsewhere, it is dry. By

:18:38. > :18:43.dawn tomorrow, nowhere near as cold as it was this morning. Rain across

:18:44. > :18:48.the south-west quadrant of the UK, but elsewhere it looks fine and dry.

:18:49. > :18:52.By the afternoon, the temperatures could reach 16 degrees. The highest

:18:53. > :18:58.temperatures towards the south-eastern corner. Maybe a bit

:18:59. > :19:01.colder along the North Sea coast, but a decent day for many of us.

:19:02. > :19:04.Any day now, a leaflet will drop through your door explaining why

:19:05. > :19:06.the Government thinks we should all vote to stay in

:19:07. > :19:09.It's infuriated those who want to leave, who see

:19:10. > :19:12.this as another bump in an unfair playing field.

:19:13. > :19:13.Vote Leave is one of the organisations vying

:19:14. > :19:18.The former Conservative Chancellor Lord Lawson is a key figure in it,

:19:19. > :19:30.What is your view as a former Chancellor of the current row about

:19:31. > :19:35.the Prime Minister's tax arrangements?

:19:36. > :19:43.David Cameron has made a mess of his handling of it, but there are more

:19:44. > :19:47.important issues behind it. This arose out of the revelations in the

:19:48. > :19:51.so-called panama papers. This shows beyond any shadow of a doubt that

:19:52. > :19:58.international cooperation needs to be global. The idea it can be just a

:19:59. > :20:03.European is crazy. The idea you have to be part of a political union to

:20:04. > :20:09.have international cooperation is also completely mistaken.

:20:10. > :20:12.Brilliantly taken towards the European argument, but what about

:20:13. > :20:18.the tax haven issue? It evolved out of the 1980s and the relaxation of

:20:19. > :20:21.exchange controls, which has brought many benefits, but it has allowed

:20:22. > :20:26.lots of people to hide their money away from any national tax

:20:27. > :20:31.authorities around the world. To do think we need a big international

:20:32. > :20:35.effort to stop to crack down? There needs to be international

:20:36. > :20:41.cooperation. It has to be completely global. There is a fair amount

:20:42. > :20:45.already, the Revenue and Customs when I was in charge was called the

:20:46. > :20:53.Inland Revenue, they cooperated considerably. They need to do more.

:20:54. > :20:58.The abolition of exchange controls has been a huge boon, you would not

:20:59. > :21:03.have had the development of the so-called emerging world is rapidly

:21:04. > :21:08.as it has been if there had not been freedom of capital flows to those

:21:09. > :21:14.countries. In the early stages in particular. It has done a great deal

:21:15. > :21:16.of good, nobody wants to unwind that, but there needs to be

:21:17. > :21:23.cooperation between the tax authorities around the world. Let's

:21:24. > :21:27.move back to the European issue. ?9.3 million expenditure on a

:21:28. > :21:30.leaflet and website and so forth to persuade people to stay inside the

:21:31. > :21:37.EU has offended people on your side of the argument. Is it an unfair

:21:38. > :21:40.playing field? A lot of people who have not made up their mind feel it

:21:41. > :21:45.is outrageous that this propaganda leaflet should be put through... And

:21:46. > :21:51.it is pure topic under, worthless propaganda. But out in the

:21:52. > :21:55.Government's name with the civil service behind it at the taxpayer's

:21:56. > :22:00.expense. Many people feel it is a scandal. We know there will be an

:22:01. > :22:04.amendment put to the Finance Bill tomorrow on this subject, would you

:22:05. > :22:11.support that if you were still in Parliament? It might well be, yes.

:22:12. > :22:14.That move to the substance, one of the big problems we have tried to

:22:15. > :22:19.discuss is whether or not we would be in a single market after leaving

:22:20. > :22:27.the EU as an institution. It is not important. We live in a largely free

:22:28. > :22:34.trading world. That is due to the way that the world is developed over

:22:35. > :22:41.the past 20 or 30 years, due to the efforts of the World Trade

:22:42. > :22:49.Organisation. The common external tariff is between three and 4%. That

:22:50. > :22:56.is trivial. Currencies move more than that. What is striking is that

:22:57. > :23:00.trade from outside the EU into the EU has risen much faster than trade

:23:01. > :23:08.within the EU. You don't need to be within the single market to trade.

:23:09. > :23:11.It is not an issue. In farming, the agricultural tariffs have been much

:23:12. > :23:16.higher coming into the EU. One thing we have not talked about much is

:23:17. > :23:23.what this does to British farmers. 60% of their income comes from EU

:23:24. > :23:26.subsidies. If we leave the EU, should the British Government pick

:23:27. > :23:32.up that level of subsidy, which is very expensive? Before we were in

:23:33. > :23:37.the EU, there was agricultural support from the Government. We have

:23:38. > :23:42.always supported farmers. I am quite sure that if we would leave, as I

:23:43. > :23:47.hope we will, nothing will happen immediately, there will be a

:23:48. > :23:51.transitional phase, but there will be support for farmers. Should a

:23:52. > :23:57.British taxpayer pick up the 2.8 Ilion in terms of support for

:23:58. > :24:02.farmers? It is a lot, but you would support it? What the British

:24:03. > :24:08.taxpayer is doing now is not only paying for the European support, all

:24:09. > :24:15.the things the farmers get from Europe are British taxpayers' money,

:24:16. > :24:21.the things the scientists get, it is recycled, but we are paying ?10

:24:22. > :24:28.billion a year more in than we get out. If we get out, we will be able

:24:29. > :24:32.to afford more. A lot of farmers watching, they are having a tough

:24:33. > :24:36.time, if we vote to leave, they will be protected? It is for the

:24:37. > :24:41.Government of the day, I will not be a member of the Government. My

:24:42. > :24:46.Government days are over, but I am sure that that is the position of

:24:47. > :24:57.those who are in the Cabinet who are in favour of voting Leave. You live

:24:58. > :25:04.in France, what about the more than 1 million British people living on

:25:05. > :25:08.the continent? Huge numbers of people, French and other Europeans,

:25:09. > :25:14.living here. There will not be a great exodus. There are legal

:25:15. > :25:22.protections. The Vienna Convention and others. There is nothing to

:25:23. > :25:26.fear. In France, there are quite a few Americans who live there,

:25:27. > :25:32.America is not part of the European Union. If you are watching and you

:25:33. > :25:35.are worried about the mutual arrangements on health care, for

:25:36. > :25:40.instance, or recognising professional qualifications, those

:25:41. > :25:48.things will be renegotiated post-leaving, and they would be

:25:49. > :25:55.safe? Yes. One final area, what happens between North and South

:25:56. > :25:58.Island? If we leave the Yukon and we are therefore completely outside the

:25:59. > :26:03.EU, and we want to control our borders, surely we have to patrol

:26:04. > :26:09.the border as well and close it? We have always made Ireland a special

:26:10. > :26:17.case. Long before we were in the EU, even though the Irish free State, as

:26:18. > :26:21.it was originally called, ... We have allowed the Irish to vote in

:26:22. > :26:29.British elections, we don't allow anybody else who is not British to

:26:30. > :26:33.vote in British elections. The Irish are for historical reasons a special

:26:34. > :26:38.case, and they will remain a special case. The Anglo-Irish relationship

:26:39. > :26:42.is a very special relationship, and it will continue to be so, it has

:26:43. > :26:49.been ever since Irish independence was secured. Some people would say

:26:50. > :26:55.it is a to migration into the UK from the rest of the EU and the

:26:56. > :27:01.world. There would have to be border controls? Yes, but not a prevention

:27:02. > :27:08.of genuine Irish from coming in. There would also be, as there is

:27:09. > :27:11.now, particularly close cooperation between the security services in

:27:12. > :27:18.Northern Ireland and in the Republic to make -- to prevent the IRA and

:27:19. > :27:23.terrorist threat from being worse than it is. Sitting at the centre of

:27:24. > :27:31.this, how do you think the pro Leave campaign is doing? In terms of the

:27:32. > :27:41.arguments, the Leave campaign is winning more. In terms of votes, we

:27:42. > :27:49.will have to see how strong. There is no campaign to love the EU. That

:27:50. > :27:53.is conspicuous by its absence. All they are trying to do is to scare

:27:54. > :27:59.the pants off everybody about leaving, but it is crazy. Most of

:28:00. > :28:03.the countries in the world are outside the EU, and they are doing

:28:04. > :28:05.very nicely. Thank you for joining us.

:28:06. > :28:08.Dame Helen Mirren's latest film roles are poles apart but they're

:28:09. > :28:10.both portrayals of hard-as-nails women hunting down their enemies.

:28:11. > :28:14.In Trumbo, she's the anti-Semitic columnist Hedda Hopper,

:28:15. > :28:23.baiting Communists in 1950s Hollywood.

:28:24. > :28:26.When we met recently, however, Helen Mirren started by telling me

:28:27. > :28:29.In it, she's a British colonel tracking an Englishwoman who's

:28:30. > :28:33.Mirren calls in American air power to hit the terrorists

:28:34. > :28:35.with drone missiles, even though a young girl may be

:28:36. > :28:47.Lieutenant, we have this one opportunity.

:28:48. > :29:01.I can when I see these guys moving and the girl

:29:02. > :29:06.But I want to give her a chance to get out of the way.

:29:07. > :29:09.There is a lot more at stake than what you see

:29:10. > :29:15.Ma'am, I need you to run the collateral damage.

:29:16. > :29:21.The idea of the strike is that this is a capture,

:29:22. > :29:26.We don't want to kill this person, we just want to capture her.

:29:27. > :29:30.It is an Englishwoman who has gone over to Isis and has become one

:29:31. > :29:37.of the most sought after terrorists in the world.

:29:38. > :29:39.And they have been hunting her for a long time.

:29:40. > :29:44.And they finally have targeted where she is.

:29:45. > :29:48.But in the discovery of where she is, they discover young

:29:49. > :29:55.You, as a drone commander, can see everything on the ground.

:29:56. > :30:01.And you can see an eight-year-old girl who might well be killed

:30:02. > :30:07.So this lends a new edge to the morality of killing.

:30:08. > :30:10.You are kind of a utilitarian, I would say, in this particular film.

:30:11. > :30:13.Well, I think it is the issue that all warriors, all soldiers,

:30:14. > :30:25.I have always said that the people who are actually on the front line

:30:26. > :30:29.They are the ones with the bombs dropping on their heads.

:30:30. > :30:32.So this idea, this so-called appalling phrase, collateral damage,

:30:33. > :30:34.which is a horrible way of talking about people,

:30:35. > :30:37.innocent people dying, it is not just in warfare

:30:38. > :30:43.But it is almost like a philosophical seminar.

:30:44. > :30:47.Is the eye in the sky the eye of God?

:30:48. > :30:59.And we're very lucky we don't live in a society that has to deal

:31:00. > :31:01.with those over our heads all the time.

:31:02. > :31:11.I was at a wedding recently and they had a drone taking photos

:31:12. > :31:15.I just wanted to shoot it out of the sky, it was so annoying!

:31:16. > :31:23.But there are communities in the world who live with this

:31:24. > :31:27.knowledge that they are being watched all the time.

:31:28. > :31:34.Let's just pause for a second and talk about your co-star,

:31:35. > :31:38.Alan Rickman, in whose memory the film has been made.

:31:39. > :31:42.An extraordinary man, you have known him for a long time.

:31:43. > :31:46.Talk to us a little bit about the man as well as the actor.

:31:47. > :31:50.Well, I think Alan would have been really proud for this

:31:51. > :32:04.Baddies and half-goodies, like Snape.

:32:05. > :32:10.The Alan we see on the screen in Eye in the Sky is Alan

:32:11. > :32:21.We need to put a Hellfire through the roof right now.

:32:22. > :32:24.I told you, we came to witness a capture, not a kill.

:32:25. > :32:29.Any action on the ground will lead to armed confrontation,

:32:30. > :32:31.which we will not be able to contain.

:32:32. > :32:35.Even with the vests, we need their approval for a strike.

:32:36. > :32:38.Just tell them we have got her in our sight.

:32:39. > :32:41.That alone should allow a Hellfire, the vests are a bonus.

:32:42. > :32:43.She's a British citizen, they want her alive.

:32:44. > :32:48.I want to ask you about other great recent character you played,

:32:49. > :32:51.Hedda Hopper, who must be one of the nastiest women I have

:32:52. > :32:53.ever seen on screen, if I may say so!

:32:54. > :32:58.Yes, I think she knew she was hated, she loved being hated,

:32:59. > :33:00.as a certain kind of female journalist does.

:33:01. > :33:03.She thought of herself as a great patriot and I think to this

:33:04. > :33:07.day there are Americans who would identify very strongly

:33:08. > :33:09.with Hedda Hopper, with all of her beliefs and philosophies.

:33:10. > :33:18.And say that is what a great, a true American should be.

:33:19. > :33:20.Do you think I love every person on my payroll?

:33:21. > :33:25.Then how about I make it crystal clear to my 35 million readers

:33:26. > :33:31.exactly who runs Hollywood and won't fire these traitors?

:33:32. > :33:40.I wonder to what extent it is also a parable about modern America

:33:41. > :33:44.and excluding people and going for victims,

:33:45. > :33:45.no longer communists, but perhaps other communities,

:33:46. > :33:50.The Muslim community, I presume, really?

:33:51. > :33:54.I'm thinking about aspects of the current Presidential...

:33:55. > :34:03.Yes, I mean, I don't like to say it is specifically American

:34:04. > :34:08.because I think all countries, all nationhoods, if you like,

:34:09. > :34:12.are susceptible to that kind of attitude.

:34:13. > :34:14.Well, you just brought out two really interesting,

:34:15. > :34:16.morally complicated films for us to think about.

:34:17. > :34:20.In terms of performance, I'm performing at the Queen's

:34:21. > :34:31.The Queen will be the Queen, she is much better at it than I am!

:34:32. > :34:38.It is going to be really wonderful, I am so excited about it.

:34:39. > :34:40.Dame Helen Mirren, thank you very much.

:34:41. > :34:46.And Eye In The Sky will be hitting cinemas across the UK this Friday.

:34:47. > :34:52.The Labour leader has not minced his words in his attack

:34:53. > :34:54.on the Prime Minister's personal financial arrangements.

:34:55. > :34:56.Jeremy Corbyn accused David Cameron of misleading the public

:34:57. > :34:59.and said he'd lost the trust of the British people.

:35:00. > :35:02.He also demanded an investigation and a full statement to Parliament.

:35:03. > :35:04.So is he satisfied with the publication

:35:05. > :35:08.Mr Corbyn joins me now from Edinburgh.

:35:09. > :35:20.Are you pleased and satisfied? Everyday, more comes out from

:35:21. > :35:27.Downing Street about his tax arrangements but I still think we

:35:28. > :35:31.need to know what benefit he or his trust received before 2010 and where

:35:32. > :35:36.the money was put in an overseas tax haven in the first place and if

:35:37. > :35:40.there is any tax owed on that period, it must be paid but he has

:35:41. > :35:45.to register this in Parliament, there are rules concerning this in

:35:46. > :35:50.Parliament and I am not suggesting he has broken them but we need to

:35:51. > :35:57.know whether or not he did benefit before 2010. In terms of today, over

:35:58. > :36:01.every front page it seems the mother of the Prime Minister gave them

:36:02. > :36:05.money in the expectation that if it was seven years before she died, he

:36:06. > :36:09.would not have to pay inheritance tax, something many parents around

:36:10. > :36:15.the country do, is anything wrong in that? She has done that and that is

:36:16. > :36:20.within the rules. Providing, of course, the person giving the money

:36:21. > :36:25.lives for more than seven years and we obviously hope that she does. The

:36:26. > :36:29.issue does reduce the level of inheritance tax available for the

:36:30. > :36:33.Exchequer, is the case for looking at inheritance tax rules? Possibly,

:36:34. > :36:38.but more important this week is looking at the question of tax

:36:39. > :36:42.havens and British dependent territories and the way in which

:36:43. > :36:46.large sums of money, huge sums of money, are placed in these tax

:36:47. > :36:50.havens to evade tax in Britain, there is a moral case. If you earn

:36:51. > :36:56.money, you pay tax and if you earn more money, you pay more tax and not

:36:57. > :37:00.paying means under funded public services and that is what the Panama

:37:01. > :37:05.Papers have shown, the moral case has to be made. Number 10 would say

:37:06. > :37:08.the Prime Minister has paid tax on everything he owes taxon and is

:37:09. > :37:17.unimpeachable and this is about the politics of envy, his mother having

:37:18. > :37:22.?200,000 and so on. It is about the politics of openness, the politics

:37:23. > :37:27.of tax evasion and avoidance on an industrial scale, which is the

:37:28. > :37:32.Panama Papers have revealed. And we need to be much more assertive on

:37:33. > :37:37.the question of overseas arrangements in British dependent

:37:38. > :37:42.territories that are administered, self governed, usually locally, but

:37:43. > :37:48.Britain obviously has a huge responsibility. Why are we allowing

:37:49. > :37:51.and encouraging tax havens independent territories, knowing

:37:52. > :37:56.that it short-changes everybody in this country? I want to come to that

:37:57. > :38:01.but before that, you cannot point to any issue where the Prime Minister

:38:02. > :38:08.has not paid his taxes? We need to see the papers, we need to do what

:38:09. > :38:11.he has returned, we need to know why he put this money overseas in the

:38:12. > :38:17.first place and whether he made anything out of this before 2010,

:38:18. > :38:20.when he became Prime Minister, these questions he must answer and I think

:38:21. > :38:23.there is a question for Parliament and a question for Parliamentary and

:38:24. > :38:28.to question him on this and a question, big questions that must be

:38:29. > :38:32.put to him by Parliament and that surely is the function of

:38:33. > :38:38.Parliament. Has he been lying in any way about money he has had in the

:38:39. > :38:42.past? I think you took a very long time to say what money he had in

:38:43. > :38:47.those trusts, what Bonnie was given to him by his family and what money

:38:48. > :38:52.he has received as a result. -- money. And what he paid on it in

:38:53. > :38:56.tax, there have been ever-changing stories coming from Downing Street,

:38:57. > :39:01.roughly one statement every 24 hours since last Monday and they do not

:39:02. > :39:04.know why he could not see the entire thing last Monday and he is not

:39:05. > :39:13.finished, he has not said how much taxi did pay? I just said ?200

:39:14. > :39:21.million, it was, in fact, ?200,000. Yes, I was worried about that! What

:39:22. > :39:26.can be done in the future. We have heard columnists on the centre-right

:39:27. > :39:32.and centre-left recently saying that we have crossed the line whereby

:39:33. > :39:35.everybody involved in politics should open their tax returns to the

:39:36. > :39:41.public so the public can see what everybody gets and how much they

:39:42. > :39:45.have got in terms of assets as well. There must be in public office, you

:39:46. > :39:49.have to know what they are earning and when it comes from and what

:39:50. > :39:54.influences come as a result of that. If, for example, you have a lot of

:39:55. > :39:58.money in an overseas trust and that is not revealed to the public, if

:39:59. > :40:03.you start lobbying not to open up the accounts of overseas trusts, it

:40:04. > :40:09.begins to look more than a little bit bored so we must have openness

:40:10. > :40:11.and transparency about this. Parliamentary scrutiny has become

:40:12. > :40:15.significantly better during the time I have been in Parliament but it

:40:16. > :40:20.still has a long way to go and we have suggested in a document we are

:40:21. > :40:24.proposing today that there are tougher Parliamentary registration

:40:25. > :40:27.rules for all overseas assets of a much lower value than at the present

:40:28. > :40:33.time. There is a duty of care to represent your financial affairs --

:40:34. > :40:38.affairs openly to Parliament so the public knows what influences your

:40:39. > :40:42.under when you make decisions. Could we see a future Labour government

:40:43. > :40:45.saying that if you want a role in public life, if you want to stand

:40:46. > :40:48.for election and want to be on programmes like this interviewing

:40:49. > :40:56.people, perhaps a newspaper editor or journalist, you bust in future

:40:57. > :41:00.rubbish income tax return? -- you must publish your income tax return?

:41:01. > :41:06.I think it is a good idea to move in that direction, money and politics

:41:07. > :41:12.have to be treated with a greater sense of openness so we know what

:41:13. > :41:17.influences are at work on any individual and one whatever

:41:18. > :41:23.decisions they make. Should this new area cover more people than current

:41:24. > :41:27.MPs? The general group of people involved in public life, around

:41:28. > :41:32.politics as well? We need to consider how far it goes, two other

:41:33. > :41:36.people involved in public life. You are involved in public life. As a

:41:37. > :41:43.very important commentator on the BBC. As are many others. We need to

:41:44. > :41:46.know what influences are at work and I have the greatest faith in your

:41:47. > :41:52.objectivity, this is not an attack on you. There are lots of people

:41:53. > :41:59.watching and thinking, is my income tax return going to be made public?

:42:00. > :42:04.One Rover public life? -- one rule for public life? But this has shown

:42:05. > :42:08.there is one rule for the rich people and another for the rest, in

:42:09. > :42:12.a tax haven you get a big result, you will pay no tax on it. If you

:42:13. > :42:18.are a care worker, street cleaner or a nurse, you do not have those

:42:19. > :42:21.options or opportunities, you pay tax. And the anger out there from a

:42:22. > :42:27.lot of people who work very hard, hey their tax and are not offered

:42:28. > :42:32.any negotiation with HMRC, they are fined if they are late. Have you

:42:33. > :42:38.gone around the Shadow Cabinet asking if they have any offshore

:42:39. > :42:43.trusts? I have not. I will obviously be discussing this with my

:42:44. > :42:48.colleagues on Tuesday. There were some good statements made yesterday

:42:49. > :42:53.and a very good article in the New Statesman today. The other big area

:42:54. > :42:59.in terms of public policy is what happens to these tax havens? You

:43:00. > :43:02.said they should be required to be more open and transparent, just as

:43:03. > :43:09.businesses and companies are in the UK itself. Otherwise other steps

:43:10. > :43:16.must be taken. What? The steps must be, if you are a crime dependent

:43:17. > :43:21.territory, or the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man, Caribbean, all of

:43:22. > :43:28.those, they operate a zero tax environment, they all enjoy security

:43:29. > :43:32.protection provided by the UK and they all have some form of self

:43:33. > :43:36.governance. To some extent, that self-governance was even suspended

:43:37. > :43:42.during the financial crisis. We must be very clear, we want openness on

:43:43. > :43:48.who owns those companies, on the trusts and we want a tax-free sheen

:43:49. > :43:53.that is reasonable so they all pay some kind of contribution. It cannot

:43:54. > :43:58.be right that we are allowing people to shift resources offshore to avoid

:43:59. > :44:02.taxation in the UK or in parts of Europe with the rather strange

:44:03. > :44:06.behaviour of some companies such as Google, who moved billing

:44:07. > :44:12.arrangements to lower tax regimes to avoid UK tax and many others as a

:44:13. > :44:17.result. We must chase down this principle that operates amongst the

:44:18. > :44:23.super-rich that somehow, tax is for somebody else and not for them. If

:44:24. > :44:28.some sun-kissed island refuses, they should pull down the Union Jack and

:44:29. > :44:32.no longer have protection? There are various measures, we can explain

:44:33. > :44:36.that we want to see a proper tax regime, we want to see them paying

:44:37. > :44:40.contributions, we will not allow people to place money there in order

:44:41. > :44:45.to avoid tax on money that has been made from business or sales or

:44:46. > :44:50.development or marketing would ever in the UK or any other part of the

:44:51. > :44:54.EU. This is an international scandal and the Panama Papers have begun to

:44:55. > :45:00.uncover this. This is the tip of a large iceberg. And people who see

:45:01. > :45:03.their local services being cut, the health services in any country under

:45:04. > :45:05.threat, they get very angry when they see the super-rich not paying

:45:06. > :45:16.their way. A lot of criticism again in the

:45:17. > :45:20.newspapers of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party. Do you not need to do

:45:21. > :45:26.more to reassure the Jewish community? It is absolutely a pollen

:45:27. > :45:32.and wrong, anybody that commits any act of anti-Semitism, that makes any

:45:33. > :45:37.remark, is automatically excluded, and an enquiry follows immediately.

:45:38. > :45:45.We will suspend any member that behave that way, Inquiries Act are

:45:46. > :45:51.ongoing. There is no place for any type of racism of any sort within

:45:52. > :45:54.our party. I will ensure that it is rooted out where it exists, but I

:45:55. > :45:59.have to say it is a very small number of cases over the country, we

:46:00. > :46:03.are dealing with it. Polly Toynbee was hoping that there would be more

:46:04. > :46:07.fire in your belly on the pro European case when you make your

:46:08. > :46:12.speech later. Will there be fire in your belly, are you really committed

:46:13. > :46:18.to get Labour voters to vote to stay in? We want people to vote to remain

:46:19. > :46:25.so that we can develop a social Europe, they just Europe, we can

:46:26. > :46:30.protect the workers' right, and we can argue for the protection of

:46:31. > :46:33.rights in public services, should the transatlantic trade and

:46:34. > :46:38.investment partnership ever, long, and we would seek to ensure there is

:46:39. > :46:41.a social Europe, universal environmental protection and

:46:42. > :46:47.protection of the advances we have made on workers' protection. What is

:46:48. > :46:50.your view on this ?9 million Government expenditure to put

:46:51. > :46:54.leaflets through everybody's doors, making the case to Remain? Everybody

:46:55. > :47:03.should be fully informed, there should be a proper debate, and I

:47:04. > :47:07.hope there will be an equality of airtime in the debate so that

:47:08. > :47:09.everybody can understand the implications of a very important

:47:10. > :47:19.decision. I hope that Labour supporters will hope -- will vote to

:47:20. > :47:26.Remain. It is not without issues, such as I have pointed out, we are

:47:27. > :47:32.not in favour of an unfettered free-market Europe, but we want a

:47:33. > :47:33.Europe of social solidarity. Thank you for joining us.

:47:34. > :47:36.Well, listening to that was the Cabinet Minister Amber Rudd.

:47:37. > :47:47.Talking about David Cameron, what remains after this tsunami of

:47:48. > :47:51.allegations is that his father was involved in setting up a company in

:47:52. > :47:54.a part of the world where you pay no British taxes at all. Can you

:47:55. > :48:00.understand why people find that offensive? The Prime Minister and

:48:01. > :48:04.his family have done nothing wrong. The independent tax expert at the

:48:05. > :48:09.start of this programme confirmed that, lots of experts have done so.

:48:10. > :48:15.He did pay tax on any income from the company, the reason the company

:48:16. > :48:21.was set up was due to exchange controls being changed. It said in

:48:22. > :48:25.the minutes of the company that it was their partly so it would not

:48:26. > :48:33.take British taxes. Anybody who received income from it do pay taxes

:48:34. > :48:38.on it, so the Prime Minister pay taxes on anything he received. If

:48:39. > :48:42.you are not paying taxes like other companies, presumably you will grow

:48:43. > :48:46.your profits more, and therefore investors will do better in that

:48:47. > :48:51.company. Therefore, the growth of income, on which we at knowledge the

:48:52. > :48:57.Prime Minister has paid his tax, would have been bigger than it would

:48:58. > :49:02.otherwise have been. You are going into criticising the whole area of

:49:03. > :49:07.unit trusts. I am talking about offshore tax avoiding trusts

:49:08. > :49:13.generally. A lot of unit trusts do invest in offshore trusts. Your

:49:14. > :49:17.pension and mine may be in it, so that as a whole area of different

:49:18. > :49:20.financial regulation. The Prime Minister and his family paid the

:49:21. > :49:25.correct amount of tax they were due. You may have heard Jeremy Corbyn, he

:49:26. > :49:33.said we have to go after offshore tax havens in a big way. Of course I

:49:34. > :49:37.agree. I welcome him to that particular ambition, because we have

:49:38. > :49:42.been doing that since 2010. The Chancellor and the Prime Minister

:49:43. > :49:50.may this a key parity for the Government, we put in place 45

:49:51. > :49:53.measures, 25 new measures coming in by 2020/21, international

:49:54. > :49:58.transparency is essential to have a level playing field, and it remains

:49:59. > :50:03.a priority. Do you have money in an offshore trust? No, but all MPs have

:50:04. > :50:09.a transparent system, they disclose their funds and income, and an

:50:10. > :50:15.expensive system. We may be moving towards a new system in which

:50:16. > :50:21.everybody in public life is to make their tax return publicly available.

:50:22. > :50:27.We may do. I am not sure it would be a good thing, we have to dig about

:50:28. > :50:31.the balance between transparency and privacy, we don't want to put people

:50:32. > :50:36.off who have substantial assets. It is worth having the debate, but I

:50:37. > :50:40.don't think it is the case. MPs have to make a lot of declarations, so I

:50:41. > :50:46.don't think it is the right thing to do, but it is worth looking into.

:50:47. > :50:51.Would you be offended by publishing your tax return? No, but I don't

:50:52. > :50:56.think it is the right way to go. The Prime Minister has taken an

:50:57. > :50:59.unprecedented step of more disclosure, the people who need to

:51:00. > :51:03.do this are the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy

:51:04. > :51:09.Corbyn has said he will do it, so I would urge him to get on with it.

:51:10. > :51:16.What we have also seen is this stage by stage revelation will stop the

:51:17. > :51:21.Prime Minister has not handled it well, tell everything right at the

:51:22. > :51:25.beginning? He has said that. It was mixed up with his own personal

:51:26. > :51:30.family affairs. He has said all there is to be said about it, and

:51:31. > :51:33.has taken the unprecedented step of publishing his financial affairs of.

:51:34. > :51:37.We were talking about whether a lot of the venom erected against him is

:51:38. > :51:44.part of the anti-European Union campaign, the two things have become

:51:45. > :51:49.mingled together. I don't think that is true. I heard Chris Grayling

:51:50. > :51:55.yesterday speaking up on the half of the Prime Minister, and he is a

:51:56. > :52:00.leading campaigner for Leave. We don't go into people's families, but

:52:01. > :52:08.your brother is a leading figure in the Panama Papers campaign. There

:52:09. > :52:15.have been stories about jitters. -- in the Remain campaign. What is your

:52:16. > :52:19.view? The Remain campaign has a very good case, the EU makes a very good

:52:20. > :52:24.coach appreciative and economy. We can improve the EU for the better, I

:52:25. > :52:30.putting competitiveness on the top of the agenda. The other

:52:31. > :52:35.alternatives are bad for the country and for the economy and could cost

:52:36. > :52:39.jobs. Putting the ?9 million into leaflets for every household in the

:52:40. > :52:45.country is not fair. It means the Remain campaign is doing things that

:52:46. > :52:48.your opponents cannot do. Some Conservative MPs are putting down

:52:49. > :52:53.amendments to the Finance Bill to correct this unfairness. I would

:52:54. > :53:00.urge them to reconsider, this is what the Government did in 1975.

:53:01. > :53:06.This Government is not neutral. We believe we are stronger and safer in

:53:07. > :53:10.a reformed EU. This is a crucial national choice, it could be a close

:53:11. > :53:16.result, you cannot afford to have people afterwards saying, it was

:53:17. > :53:20.fixed, it was not fair. There is precedent, and this is the

:53:21. > :53:24.Government, the Government was elected and is delivering on this

:53:25. > :53:28.referendum commitment, and wants to make the case on behalf of the

:53:29. > :53:32.Government. My constituency says to me, what is the Government view?

:53:33. > :53:40.That is why it is right to show them. If your side win, and the

:53:41. > :53:43.Prime Minister has one, the first big question is whether he brings in

:53:44. > :53:49.some of his you risk the critics back into top jobs. Does Boris get a

:53:50. > :53:55.good job, is Michael Gove made a pity Prime Minister? It is a contest

:53:56. > :54:00.between being a tough and routers and being open and engaging. If he

:54:01. > :54:06.asked for your advice, what would you say? He is unlikely to ask my

:54:07. > :54:10.advice, either lie on his good judgment to put together a Cabinet

:54:11. > :54:19.that would unite the party and deliver on our core manifesto

:54:20. > :54:24.commitments. The issue of the Irish border, 310 miles. If we leave the

:54:25. > :54:28.EU, would it have to be sealed? We would have to wait and see, but it

:54:29. > :54:32.highlights the dangerous prospect that are out there if we do leave.

:54:33. > :54:36.The lack of certainty is what concerns me. If we left, but a

:54:37. > :54:41.Conservative Government carry on supporting British farmers? Who

:54:42. > :54:43.knows? There is uncertainty if we leave.

:54:44. > :54:45.Now over to Jon for the news headlines.

:54:46. > :54:49.The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, has called for greater openness

:54:50. > :54:54.from politicians and other figures in public life about their personal

:54:55. > :55:00.He also said the UK Government should be much more assertive

:55:01. > :55:02.and clamp down on overseas territories which

:55:03. > :55:06.He was speaking after David Cameron published his income and tax details

:55:07. > :55:10.Mr Corbyn told this programme the Prime Minister still had

:55:11. > :55:18.We need to know what he has actually returned as a tax return.

:55:19. > :55:24.We need to know why he put this money overseas in the first place.

:55:25. > :55:27.And whether he made anything out of it or not before 2010,

:55:28. > :55:34.I think there is a question for Parliament there.

:55:35. > :55:36.There is a question for Parliamentary Standards

:55:37. > :55:41.The Cabinet Minister Amber Rudd defended David Cameron,

:55:42. > :55:43.saying the information he'd published today showed

:55:44. > :55:46.he and his family had paid the correct amount of tax and had

:55:47. > :55:55.First, let's have a look at what's coming up immediately

:55:56. > :56:00.Join us from York at 10am, where we will ask just one Big Question.

:56:01. > :56:04.In honour of Shakespeare's 400th anniversary, is there more truth

:56:05. > :56:09.We have a very distinguished company of leading scholars,

:56:10. > :56:11.performers, writers, theologians and historians

:56:12. > :56:18.So take your seat in our audience at 10am on BBC One.

:56:19. > :56:25.Andrew Neil will be here on BBC One in an hour with the Sunday Politics.

:56:26. > :56:27.Next week, I'll be talking to the politician who many in France

:56:28. > :56:30.hope might be their next President, the French Economy

:56:31. > :56:34.But for now, as promised, we leave you with some

:56:35. > :56:37.Sam Outlaw is on tour here at the moment.

:56:38. > :56:40.From his album Angeleno, this is Ghost Town.

:56:41. > :57:26.# Cos I'm on my way, through some kind of ghost town.

:57:27. > :57:34.# I'm on my way, wish that I could slow down.

:57:35. > :57:53.# You hardly see a car, truck, or train.

:57:54. > :57:56.# There's no-one left to say what happened.

:57:57. > :58:13.# Cos I'm on my way, through some kind of ghost town.

:58:14. > :58:17.# I'm on my way, wish that I could slow down.

:58:18. > :58:27.# Looking for some answers in the rubble, rocks and sand.

:58:28. > :58:29.# Cos I'm on my way, through some kind of ghost town.

:58:30. > :58:35.# I'm on my way, wish that I could slow down.

:58:36. > :59:18.At the first light of dawn, it's the only thing we have on.

:59:19. > :59:21.A friendly, familiar voice on the other side.