:00:21. > :00:22.Hard to believe, but the EU debate only
:00:23. > :00:25.Between the competing camps, the argument is turning nasty.
:00:26. > :00:28.Before long the weather will turn and this foul, cold spring will end.
:00:29. > :00:31.When it does, for the rest of us, it's going to be make-your-mind-up
:00:32. > :00:49.As Vote Leave are designated the official campaign
:00:50. > :00:52.to quit the EU, I'm joined by Chris Grayling, one of the senior
:00:53. > :00:54.Conservatives who disagrees with his own government.
:00:55. > :00:58.And on the remain side, Labour's Yvette Cooper.
:00:59. > :01:02.What does she make of Jeremy Corbyn's call
:01:03. > :01:08.The EU crisis is bound up with the crisis in Syria.
:01:09. > :01:11.David Davis, the former Tory Minister, has this week been
:01:12. > :01:23.to speak directly to President Assad and will tell us all.
:01:24. > :01:25.So what, meanwhile, do our European partners make of Britain's
:01:26. > :01:30.I've been talking to Emmanuel Macron, the minister
:01:31. > :01:35.in charge of the French economy and a possible presidential
:01:36. > :01:39.candidate, who warns there will be a price to pay if we leave.
:01:40. > :01:44.We have to be very clear that Brexit will have consequences.
:01:45. > :02:04.Reviewing the papers, one-time Labour supporting
:02:05. > :02:06.novelist Tony Parsons, who has voted for Ukip
:02:07. > :02:11.And finally, we're joined by one of the European figures who makes
:02:12. > :02:13.everybody feel better, Johann Sebastian Bach,
:02:14. > :02:15.as performed by one of our leading musical lights,
:02:16. > :02:18.But first the news with Christian Fraser.
:02:19. > :02:22.At least 77 people have been killed following a powerful earthquake off
:02:23. > :02:25.The epicentre was 27km from the coastal town of Muisne,
:02:26. > :02:29.A state of emergency has been declared across much
:02:30. > :02:31.of the west of the country, as Reged Ahmed explains.
:02:32. > :02:33.This is amateur footage of the earthquake hitting
:02:34. > :02:34.a supermarket in the capital, Quito.
:02:35. > :02:37.As the shelves shake and pots smash to the floor,
:02:38. > :02:44.it shows just how violent the quake was.
:02:45. > :02:47.And yet this effect was still more than 170km from the epicentre,
:02:48. > :02:50.which hit on the coast in the north-east of the country.
:02:51. > :02:58.Once the 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit, reports of damage started
:02:59. > :03:18.Pictures on social media revealed just how widespread it might be.
:03:19. > :03:20.In Guayaquil, much further to the south east, an overpass
:03:21. > :03:22.collapsed, rescue workers rushing to the scene.
:03:23. > :03:25.There was also a tsunami warning as authorities started to report
:03:26. > :03:28.on the death toll and ask people to stay away from coastal areas.
:03:29. > :03:30.We are continuing to receive information from the national system
:03:31. > :03:32.regarding health during this regrettable loss of life.
:03:33. > :03:34.The numbers still need to be confirmed.
:03:35. > :03:37.The entire public force is in a state of maximum alert
:03:38. > :03:53.As the hours go by, the true extent of the damage,
:03:54. > :03:56.and the death toll in Ecuador, will only become clearer.
:03:57. > :03:58.Nearly a quarter of a million people have been ordered
:03:59. > :04:01.to leave their homes in southern Japan amid fears of
:04:02. > :04:06.At least 41 people have died and dozens more are missing,
:04:07. > :04:08.feared buried, after two earthquakes struck in recent days.
:04:09. > :04:12.Rescue efforts have been hampered by heavy rain.
:04:13. > :04:15.More than 150 countries will begin using a new polio vaccine in a final
:04:16. > :04:19.It's expected to be more effective in targeting the last few
:04:20. > :04:23.Health officials say the change-over is a sign of how close the world
:04:24. > :04:29.Two 14-year-olds have been charged with murdering a woman
:04:30. > :04:37.Police have named the victims as Elizabeth Edwards, who was 49,
:04:38. > :04:39.and her 13-year-old daughter Katie, whose bodies were found
:04:40. > :04:45.at a property in Spalding on Friday afternoon.
:04:46. > :04:48.One of the biggest Roman villas in Britain has been unearthed
:04:49. > :04:51.in Wiltshire after part of a mosaic was discovered by workmen laying
:04:52. > :04:56.Archaeologists, who've found coins, brooches and the remains
:04:57. > :04:58.of oysters, have described the villa as elaborate
:04:59. > :05:04.I'll be back with the headlines just before 10 o'clock.
:05:05. > :05:18.The visit of Kate and William to India and Bhutan produced a
:05:19. > :05:25.sensational series of photographs. There is the one to top them all,
:05:26. > :05:28.the two of them in front of that # owl, recreating the famous lonely
:05:29. > :05:34.pose that Princess Diana used to announce that her marriage was over.
:05:35. > :05:39.Happy ending in all senses. And this, Britain faces economic rupture
:05:40. > :05:43.if we leave the EU, says the government. There is a tragedy
:05:44. > :05:49.report coming out tomorrow about economic consequences. A different
:05:50. > :05:53.story on Observer. 10,000 kids do not have primary school places, we
:05:54. > :05:58.will talk about that. And we will talk about Lily Allen's interview,
:05:59. > :06:02.revealing that she has been the victim of a horrendous stocking case
:06:03. > :06:07.for seven years until she has not been taken seriously. And Ian
:06:08. > :06:13.Botham, swinging for Brexit, it says. The pictures we saw in front
:06:14. > :06:17.of the Sunday Telegraph, and then exceptionally well written piece.
:06:18. > :06:23.And another story we will be talking about, MP's porn star lover showing
:06:24. > :06:28.Cabinet papers. Is this something or nothing? We will find out shortly.
:06:29. > :06:34.We will start with you, Tony, and the Sunday Times, Ian Botham. It is
:06:35. > :06:40.the first weekend proper of campaigning in the EU referendum. It
:06:41. > :06:47.is Stardust time. The celebrity and door Smedts are being wheeled out.
:06:48. > :06:51.People who would like us to leave Brussels have got endorsement from
:06:52. > :06:58.Ian Botham, the celebrated national treasure. If in doubt, get Ian
:06:59. > :07:02.Botham. It is a short piece but it will have a big impact. Ian Botham
:07:03. > :07:08.makes the point you would expect him to make about the way the EU has not
:07:09. > :07:12.signed off on their accounts for 20 years, the endemic corruption, the
:07:13. > :07:18.loss of national sovereignty, all of that. He makes the point that he
:07:19. > :07:23.spent his professional life around sports men from Australia, Canada,
:07:24. > :07:27.India, South Africa, the Commonwealth of Nations that we will
:07:28. > :07:34.be hearing about this week with the Queen's 90th birthday. He makes the
:07:35. > :07:38.case for us leaving Brussels as being to embrace those old alliances
:07:39. > :07:43.that we have been too dismissive about. Who do people really listen
:07:44. > :07:48.to? If they do not trust politicians, do they trust bankers,
:07:49. > :07:53.cricketers, central bankers? Everyone is looking for the
:07:54. > :07:56.trustworthy voice. I am not sure it makes a difference to anyone. I am
:07:57. > :08:01.not sure that Ian Botham will persuade anyone to change their
:08:02. > :08:08.vote. I think it is possible you can have a celebrity endorsement that
:08:09. > :08:14.does harm. It is Ian Botham against President Obama this week. Yes, it
:08:15. > :08:18.is. I think that the intervention of President Obama could backfire.
:08:19. > :08:25.Unlike Ian Botham, President Obama does not have a vote. You have
:08:26. > :08:29.chosen that story from the Observer? Yes, President Obama coming to town,
:08:30. > :08:33.Downing Street hoping this would be the direct intervention from the
:08:34. > :08:39.president. He is the cool guy, young in people's mains. He is champing
:08:40. > :08:44.those who want to remain. Boris Johnson also made the point that the
:08:45. > :08:49.Americans Walmart sign international treaties over the oceans, never mind
:08:50. > :08:56.anything else. He says that President Obama is a hypocrite. Yes,
:08:57. > :09:01.he accused him of hypocrisy. It is being dressed up as a conspiracy by
:09:02. > :09:04.people who want to leave. President Obama is part of this supranational
:09:05. > :09:11.crew who are coming over and telling us what to do. At the same time, who
:09:12. > :09:15.is coming out to bats-mac to stay in Europe? You have people like
:09:16. > :09:21.President Obama, leading a country, on his way out, does he have to live
:09:22. > :09:27.say anything he does not want to? Probably not. You have organisations
:09:28. > :09:31.like the IMF, big organisations with a vested interest. It is about
:09:32. > :09:39.trust. Who has got the facts? Ian Botham, Barack Obama? We saw this
:09:40. > :09:43.with the Scottish referendum. The side to vote out of anything is the
:09:44. > :09:48.cooler cited beyond. It is doing something different. Cheerleading
:09:49. > :09:53.for the status quo is left to people like Barack Obama. That is
:09:54. > :09:59.interesting, because the opinion polls put the two sides neck and
:10:00. > :10:02.neck, but I do not feel there is a parody of passion. The argument to
:10:03. > :10:06.remain is not being made with the same blood than conviction and
:10:07. > :10:11.emotion. Boris Johnson is right, Barack Obama will not allow freedom
:10:12. > :10:17.of movement from Latin America, he will not take orders from the
:10:18. > :10:23.Canadians, they do not sign up to the International criminal Court.
:10:24. > :10:28.Boris Johnson give the opposition camp a good name, despite being on
:10:29. > :10:32.the other side. This story is bleeding into other stories. We will
:10:33. > :10:37.talk about the front page of the Observer. There is a shortage of
:10:38. > :10:41.primary school places. If you have young children, the big story this
:10:42. > :10:45.week is the letter that you will receive tomorrow, when you find out
:10:46. > :10:50.if your child got their place in their choice of primary school. It
:10:51. > :10:56.is a massive thing you view a parent or child. There will be massive
:10:57. > :11:00.disappointment. One year ago, 20% of people were disappointed. This year,
:11:01. > :11:06.it is likely to be higher. It ties in with the story on the front page
:11:07. > :11:10.of the Sunday Telegraph, about one in four waiting more than a week to
:11:11. > :11:18.see their GP. It is at the stage now where you could die of full-page
:11:19. > :11:24.waiting to see your local doctor. -- old age. The evidence suggests that
:11:25. > :11:29.our infrastructure is collapsing under the weight of numbers. Is this
:11:30. > :11:33.connected with immigration? It is possibly I'm connected, there are
:11:34. > :11:38.too many people. We have numbers of people that we are not capable of
:11:39. > :11:43.educating, giving proper health care. No one can address it, it is
:11:44. > :11:48.too big a problem. I said at the beginning that you were a Labour
:11:49. > :11:52.voter and you have no voted for Ukip and the Tories. Is this because you
:11:53. > :11:57.think Labour have turned their back on working-class old Labour voters?
:11:58. > :12:02.I am a former member of the Labour Party. It is a 20th-century
:12:03. > :12:06.political party. They have completely disconnected with the
:12:07. > :12:12.working class of this country. They are terrified to say anything about
:12:13. > :12:14.immigration. It shows how far removed the are from ordinary
:12:15. > :12:21.people. People have been completely betrayed. It is not just the working
:12:22. > :12:25.class that have been betrayed by the Labour Party. I will put some of
:12:26. > :12:34.this two Yvette Cooper. They have never had a female leader in 116
:12:35. > :12:40.years. Well observed. It could've been the woman who will be joining
:12:41. > :12:44.us shortly. And no to the Mail On Sunday, page after page of John
:12:45. > :12:49.Whittingdale and his life. There are lots of embarrassing details we will
:12:50. > :12:53.not go into. Does it amount to anything as a political story? It
:12:54. > :12:59.has been labelled as a Tory sex scandal across these pages. I have
:13:00. > :13:02.gone through all of this forever everybody at home, so they do not
:13:03. > :13:06.have to. Whenever you look at anything in a newspaper, you would
:13:07. > :13:10.want to think, what is the public interest? Why do we need to know
:13:11. > :13:15.about the private life of the culture secretary in such detail?
:13:16. > :13:20.The shocking thing is he is not married! Is it acceptable for Tories
:13:21. > :13:25.to have sex? It is nine o'clock in the morning, I do not know if I am
:13:26. > :13:28.up to this yet, I only have water in the glass. You have a culture
:13:29. > :13:34.secretary who is heavily involved in how the media in this country work.
:13:35. > :13:41.He is almost being a test case for privacy in the post-Leveson world.
:13:42. > :13:47.This is the privacy minister. There are two things, his private life,
:13:48. > :13:51.what is up for grabs, what is OK? It seems to have been justified by a
:13:52. > :13:58.brilliant photo. He broke protocol at Chequers and took this photo and
:13:59. > :14:02.allegedly said that -- and allegedly sent it to one of his lovers, off
:14:03. > :14:08.all the Cabinet, looking like they were having a jolly time. It is also
:14:09. > :14:13.said that his red box, sensitive papers, were left out for some of
:14:14. > :14:19.these women to see. He bragged about his job. Some men have a bit of an
:14:20. > :14:26.eagle. Friends of John Whittingdale say that no one saw the Cabinet
:14:27. > :14:31.papers. There are pages of this. We could not not talk about this if we
:14:32. > :14:35.are looking at the Sunday papers. The allegation was that John
:14:36. > :14:41.Whittingdale would be hostile to the BBC in the future. The newspapers do
:14:42. > :14:45.not want to do those stories to look after their own interests. Here is
:14:46. > :14:49.the Mail On Sunday disproving that. Some of the pages I am not sure you
:14:50. > :14:55.could look out on a family show. Politicians being caught with their
:14:56. > :15:01.trousers down will always be in the Sunday papers. I would like to talk
:15:02. > :15:03.about Christine Lagarde. The managing director of the IMF has
:15:04. > :15:09.been mourning about the stagnation of the global economy. What I always
:15:10. > :15:12.think is wonderful about Christine Lagarde morning about the global
:15:13. > :15:19.economy, she does not pay any income tax. Perhaps if she started paying
:15:20. > :15:25.tax. She is part of that group who have risen above it.
:15:26. > :15:33.Another person we look up to in a different sense is Lily Allen, but
:15:34. > :15:41.she has given a fairly ringing interview to the Observer about
:15:42. > :15:44.being stalked. This is huge. Lily Allen has been off the scene for a
:15:45. > :15:48.while, she came back last year with an album and one of the things she
:15:49. > :15:52.says has been keeping her indoors, keeping her feeling like she cannot
:15:53. > :15:56.be herself is the fact she has been stopped for seven years which
:15:57. > :16:02.culminated in this man getting into not only her house but her bedroom,
:16:03. > :16:05.armed with some sort of knife. It took for her handbag to be stolen
:16:06. > :16:14.for the police to take this seriously. It is anti-stalking week.
:16:15. > :16:18.It is 700,000 women per year, and that's only the ones who report,
:16:19. > :16:22.being stalked in this country. That's basically what percent of the
:16:23. > :16:31.population. She has teamed up with the women's equality party, with a
:16:32. > :16:35.campaign to save police are not taking this kind of thing seriously
:16:36. > :16:38.enough, that the structures in this country are not set up properly to
:16:39. > :16:42.deal with these issues specifically to women who are having to deal with
:16:43. > :16:47.this kind of thing. It will be interesting to see if there is a
:16:48. > :16:51.proper police response. Terrifying, and when you read it took her
:16:52. > :17:00.handbag to be stolen, and it was returned the next lights burned to a
:17:01. > :17:05.cinder on the roof of her car, now we understand it is a burglary, and
:17:06. > :17:09.we shall say that only recently was added that stalking was a crime of
:17:10. > :17:13.the mind so there's a lot for police to learn from this. Slightly more
:17:14. > :17:21.cheerful news I mentioned right at beginning. Yes, it is perhaps the
:17:22. > :17:27.most iconic Princess Diana image is remodelled with Kate and William
:17:28. > :17:31.outside the Taj Mahal. And it is beautiful but can I point something
:17:32. > :17:36.out. There is the picture in the Observer and all of the towers
:17:37. > :17:38.behind have scaffolding on them, and on the Sunday Express the
:17:39. > :17:45.scaffolding has magically disappeared. They work very fast. My
:17:46. > :17:50.favourite detail was apparently the bench was so hot before they sat
:17:51. > :17:55.down some workers had to come and douse it in ice water and dry it.
:17:56. > :17:58.They looked very comfortable. That is a very happy note to finish on,
:17:59. > :18:00.thank you very much indeed. Jeremy Corbyn was accused by some
:18:01. > :18:03.of making a half-hearted speech Whether he'll play a prominent
:18:04. > :18:07.role in the referendum campaign remains to be seen,
:18:08. > :18:09.but among Labour enthusiasts for the UK to remain
:18:10. > :18:11.in is the former Cabinet minister and leadership contender
:18:12. > :18:20.Yvette Cooper, You may have heard Tony Parsons
:18:21. > :18:24.pointing out that he feels the Labour Party really let down a lot
:18:25. > :18:29.of Labour voters by allowing so many migrants in from the EU for so long
:18:30. > :18:33.and that had an effect on wages and job security and on creaking public
:18:34. > :18:38.services. You have spoken about this in the past so how do you feel about
:18:39. > :18:43.your leader saying we didn't let too many people in, in his speech this
:18:44. > :18:48.week? You and I have discussed this many times before and I said I think
:18:49. > :18:51.we should have had transitional controls on Eastern Europe, we
:18:52. > :18:55.should have done that and we also should have done more when we were
:18:56. > :18:58.in Government on issues around exploitation and undercutting but
:18:59. > :19:02.that is something we have all been campaigning for for a long time. It
:19:03. > :19:07.is something Jeremy talked about in his speech, the need to deal with
:19:08. > :19:13.undercutting, and it is important to do that. He did say I don't think
:19:14. > :19:20.too many have come, and he is wrong on that you think? I didn't hear him
:19:21. > :19:25.talk about transitional controls, I don't know what the issue is there,
:19:26. > :19:29.and there is concern about migration across the country but what's the
:19:30. > :19:33.implications for this for the European referendum is I think
:19:34. > :19:37.there's a big problem with a lot of the leave campaign promising we will
:19:38. > :19:40.have a single market and then we will restrict all immigration, and
:19:41. > :19:47.all the evidence shows that if you want to be in the single market, you
:19:48. > :19:52.end up having to agree to the free movement rules. If we want to change
:19:53. > :19:55.the rules, you have got to be in there to argue for reform. You
:19:56. > :20:01.cannot get reform if you stay on the outside. Nigel Lawson sitting in
:20:02. > :20:08.that chair last week said he didn't think the single market was a very
:20:09. > :20:11.big issue, but coming back to immigration, can I make it clear,
:20:12. > :20:17.you talk about transitional controls because you think too many did,. I
:20:18. > :20:23.think you are in danger of recycling an argument we have had many times.
:20:24. > :20:26.I think the pace of migration as a result of not having immigration
:20:27. > :20:32.controls and not having the transition controls was too fast. We
:20:33. > :20:37.have to deal with the situation we are in now. We are outside Schengen
:20:38. > :20:43.so we obviously have border controls and things that other parts don't
:20:44. > :20:47.have... But we also have to allow in EU people if they want to come. But
:20:48. > :20:50.if you have proper border controls you can do the security checks the
:20:51. > :20:59.leave campaign have said you cannot have. A lot of people have said that
:21:00. > :21:04.if I am worried about migration, the obvious answer is to leave the EU.
:21:05. > :21:09.They have been given a false promise that you can close off your borders
:21:10. > :21:13.and also have the free trade and single market access that we have
:21:14. > :21:18.always had as part of Europe and you can pick and choose. Those who are
:21:19. > :21:24.not saying that, what are they saying instead? They are saying it
:21:25. > :21:31.is OK to have 10% tariffs on cars, on our financial services. That is a
:21:32. > :21:36.real risk. It is important because the Labour approaches we have got to
:21:37. > :21:41.protect our manufacturing jobs. We could lose ?100 billion worth of
:21:42. > :21:45.trade. We could lose the jobs are industrial towns depend on and also
:21:46. > :21:50.some of the employment rights that our trade unions have been
:21:51. > :21:54.campaigning for. There's a good reason you have the TUC as well as
:21:55. > :21:59.the IMF, all talking about the real risks to our jobs and economy and it
:22:00. > :22:06.is working people across Britain who will be most hardest-hit if we end
:22:07. > :22:11.up losing these jobs. Jeremy Corbyn suggested this week there should be
:22:12. > :22:15.an EU-wide minimum wage adjusted to local conditions. How would that
:22:16. > :22:19.work? Its that's not actually what he said. He was talking about
:22:20. > :22:26.employment rights, for example you have things like paternity leave
:22:27. > :22:31.rights so that stops other companies right across Europe getting rid of
:22:32. > :22:35.maternity rights in order to undercut our companies here in
:22:36. > :22:41.Britain. What he actually said is there has to be a case for a minimum
:22:42. > :22:45.wage tied to economic conditions across the continent, which implies
:22:46. > :22:51.the EU centrally will set minimum wages for all of the countries. Are
:22:52. > :22:56.you suggesting it wouldn't work? That is a link to economic
:22:57. > :23:01.conditions. Do you understand this proposal? What you need is a way to
:23:02. > :23:08.stop other countries undercutting and that's why you work together. If
:23:09. > :23:12.you want Google to pay tax, if you want big global companies to pay
:23:13. > :23:15.tax, one country cannot do it on their own. We have to get countries
:23:16. > :23:22.to work together in order to do that. You are a Labour politician.
:23:23. > :23:26.One of the things people say is that if Britain leaves the EU there is a
:23:27. > :23:35.strong chance Scotland will leave the UK, which is then an existential
:23:36. > :23:41.moment for Labour, the part is over -- the party is over. I think it is
:23:42. > :23:44.an existential moment for the country, the immediate issue is the
:23:45. > :23:51.existential crisis for the country. I think it would be terrible for our
:23:52. > :23:55.country if we ended up firstly pulling out of Europe and losing the
:23:56. > :23:59.ability to have an impact across the world, and then losing Scotland
:24:00. > :24:03.breaking up as well. In the end it is a Labour value, we are stronger
:24:04. > :24:08.if we stand together then if we leave people to swim or sink alone.
:24:09. > :24:14.Even the Catholic Church was making that argument this week as well. We
:24:15. > :24:17.were talking about Scotland a moment ago, surely it would be catastrophic
:24:18. > :24:23.for the Labour Party if you come third in the Scottish elections
:24:24. > :24:27.coming up. Kezia Dugdale is working immensely hard, we know we still
:24:28. > :24:33.have the shadow of what happened in referendum... If you were beaten by
:24:34. > :24:38.the Tories in Scotland, that would be the hideous and horrendous moment
:24:39. > :24:43.for the party. We are campaigning for every vote. Before we finished,
:24:44. > :24:47.I can see you are coming to the end, it is important this issue about our
:24:48. > :24:50.I can see you are coming to the end, economy and public services. Ask
:24:51. > :24:53.Chris Grayling about this later, he's been claiming that somehow
:24:54. > :24:54.Chris Grayling about this later, pulling out of Europe will save our
:24:55. > :24:58.NHS. We should be pulling out of Europe will save our
:24:59. > :25:01.Tory government responsible for the pulling out of Europe will save our
:25:02. > :25:05.state of our NHS, not Brussels, and we would be a poorer country with
:25:06. > :25:10.less resources to support our NHS if we pull out. I have a sheath of
:25:11. > :25:12.questions for Chris Grayling, but thank you.
:25:13. > :25:17.Let's be honest, it's been a confusing and rather
:25:18. > :25:20.slapping us round the chops like a piece of wet cod.
:25:21. > :25:23.Just tell us when it's going to end for goodness sake,
:25:24. > :25:34.Let's see what we can do. We are making a start with sky 's the
:25:35. > :25:40.bluest of blue across many parts of the UK. This was the picture
:25:41. > :25:41.recently from south Wales. You can see that is extending across much of
:25:42. > :25:56.the UK but not quite everywhere. That is accompanied by a fairly
:25:57. > :26:00.brisk breeze in Scotland, so not quite as pleasant. A bit of patchy
:26:01. > :26:03.cloud for England and Wales but not spoiling things too much, the winds
:26:04. > :26:08.here rather lighter so temperatures a bit higher than yesterday, a
:26:09. > :26:12.decent amount of sunshine. That will start to feel a little more like
:26:13. > :26:16.spring, and not quite as cold tonight either. We had a sharp frost
:26:17. > :26:21.under the clear skies last night. The wind is picking up and the cloud
:26:22. > :26:30.is working south, you might get a touch of frost across the southern
:26:31. > :26:32.counties of England before that cloud arrives but generally
:26:33. > :26:35.temperatures around six or 7 degrees. In the week ahead a lot of
:26:36. > :26:40.dry weather to come, warmer by day in the sunshine, still some chilly
:26:41. > :26:41.nights around but overall much less discombobulated and for you in the
:26:42. > :26:48.week ahead. The Syrian civil war has been
:26:49. > :26:52.going on for nearly five years. It's claimed at least a quarter
:26:53. > :26:55.of 1 million lives, and more than four million people
:26:56. > :26:57.have fled the country, triggering shock
:26:58. > :26:58.waves across Europe. David Davis, Tory MP,
:26:59. > :27:01.has just come back from Damascus and a face-to-face meeting
:27:02. > :27:12.with President Bashar Assad. You have been speaking to Bashar
:27:13. > :27:16.al-Assad, who was regarded around the world as one of the most evil
:27:17. > :27:25.dictator is going. How did you find him? He oversees a regime which
:27:26. > :27:31.murders and tortures prisoners and carries out barrel bombing. He was
:27:32. > :27:34.polite, courteous. We had warned him before we arrived that we were going
:27:35. > :27:40.to be very frank with him and his opening words were please be blunt,
:27:41. > :27:46.so we were. So you asked him about the barrel bombs and the torture?
:27:47. > :27:51.How did he respond? My colleague was very fierce about it. He sidestepped
:27:52. > :27:55.the barrel bomb argument but on the torture and killing of prisoners he
:27:56. > :28:01.tried to claim that that was down to enemy propaganda, he said our
:28:02. > :28:07.opponents are very good with online propaganda. Of course that may be
:28:08. > :28:13.true to some extent, it was two years ago a British citizen was
:28:14. > :28:18.tortured, we think, and killed in their custody and there is other
:28:19. > :28:21.evidence, it is still going on. Other ministers in his government
:28:22. > :28:28.put it down to revenge and their lack of control. His troops are
:28:29. > :28:33.moving forward again thanks to President Putin's intervention, did
:28:34. > :28:39.he talk to you about that? Do you think it feels safe as a result?
:28:40. > :28:44.Absolutely, I asked because I was interested in why Putin downscaled
:28:45. > :28:50.what they were doing. The Russian army completely but the Syrian army
:28:51. > :28:54.back on its feet. I asked him why he downscaled it and he said because
:28:55. > :28:58.Russia were being criticised for stalling the talks, taking away the
:28:59. > :29:03.incentive for him to negotiate. Almost as a throwaway line he said,
:29:04. > :29:08.but Putin said we will not let you lose. Which for me was the most
:29:09. > :29:12.important phrase of the entire visit because that defines what the
:29:13. > :29:17.outcome will be. If the Russians will not let them lose, there are
:29:18. > :29:22.two possible outcomes. The jihadist victory, which would be a disaster
:29:23. > :29:28.in my view, it is not on the cards but I've negotiated outcome or
:29:29. > :29:31.Syrian victory is on the cards. It wasn't long ago we were being told
:29:32. > :29:37.70,000 moderate Syrian fighters taking on the regime by the
:29:38. > :29:42.Government, any of that? No, where we could we talk to people like NGOs
:29:43. > :29:52.and journalist both inside Damascus and Beirut, and the most telling
:29:53. > :29:58.comment was from a very good NGO leader in Damascus who said that
:29:59. > :30:03.there is nobody that the west would recognise as a moderate amongst the
:30:04. > :30:06.various sorts of jihadist and so-called freedom fighters. It is an
:30:07. > :30:10.unappetising choice between sticking with Assad and the Russians on one
:30:11. > :30:17.hand, and allowing the turmoil of extremist groups on the other. Is
:30:18. > :30:21.there a way forward. There is a negotiated outcome. The reason I
:30:22. > :30:25.went is because Europe's two biggest problems are massive security
:30:26. > :30:29.problems, 1000 jihadist a year arriving in Europe, and even
:30:30. > :30:34.hundreds of thousands of refugees, both of those go back to the Syrian
:30:35. > :30:44.conflict. The longer it goes on, the worst Appleby.
:30:45. > :30:52.A negotiated outcome. At the moment, with Syria just under the control of
:30:53. > :30:56.the Russians, who are not going to stop the torturing, the killing of
:30:57. > :31:02.prisoners. It seems to me that the West has got to get a card in this
:31:03. > :31:07.game. I think one of the most important things the West could do
:31:08. > :31:14.is draft a plan to rebuild Syria. It used to be the Germany of the land,
:31:15. > :31:19.a breadbasket, pharmaceuticals, textiles, you name it. If you want
:31:20. > :31:23.this, you have got to negotiate properly, to create a civilised
:31:24. > :31:28.regime. Do you take the view that Assad eventually must go? The other
:31:29. > :31:32.thing that the head of the NGO said, is Assad stood for election
:31:33. > :31:36.tomorrow, he would win. When he stood a few years ago, they would
:31:37. > :31:42.have had a general election this week, it was a farce, when he stood
:31:43. > :31:45.a few years ago, he got 63%. He would probably get more, because
:31:46. > :31:52.everybody was terrified of the upturn at it. We will leave that to
:31:53. > :31:56.the people of Syria. If the West was to put Assad of the table for the
:31:57. > :32:01.moment, would you do that? I would not make that a red line, I would
:32:02. > :32:09.say we want a democratic, civilised state. At the moment you have a
:32:10. > :32:11.repressive state was a civilised society. Churches alongside mosques,
:32:12. > :32:17.women not winning fails, you name it. You want to maintain that piece
:32:18. > :32:21.well rebuilding Syria. I would talk to Vladimir Putin, I would talk to
:32:22. > :32:26.the Assad government. This was here before Assad took over. His father
:32:27. > :32:31.created the resume. The machinery has been there for a long time.
:32:32. > :32:35.Since you're a leading enthusiast for the league side of the argument,
:32:36. > :32:40.let me ask you about the comments of Ken Clarke this week, the Prime
:32:41. > :32:45.Minister would not last 30 seconds if we voted for Brexit. You asking
:32:46. > :32:51.me if I agree with that? Yes. I do not. If we vote for Brexit, it is
:32:52. > :32:58.clear that David Cameron cannot delete that bit of his government's
:32:59. > :33:03.activities, the renegotiation. He would have to appoint someone who
:33:04. > :33:07.the public and the party had faith in, but to most importantly believed
:33:08. > :33:13.in the negotiation. If you did that, I see no reason why he should not go
:33:14. > :33:21.on. We are talking about someone who has been on the campaign side to
:33:22. > :33:32.leave the EU. Someone in the foreign is? Go away. You're referring to me.
:33:33. > :33:36.Let's stick to the plausible. If he brought in Boris Johnson Michael
:33:37. > :33:40.Gove, to do the renegotiation, you think he could remain as Prime
:33:41. > :33:46.Minister? Yes, if they give those people are not power to do the job.
:33:47. > :33:48.-- enough power. France's Economy Minister
:33:49. > :33:50.is a young man in a hurry. At 38, Emmanuel Macron has formed
:33:51. > :33:53.a new movement, "En Marche!", and vows to reform both his
:33:54. > :33:56.country and the wider EU. Many French believe he'll
:33:57. > :33:58.run for the presidency, Macron ruffled British
:33:59. > :34:01.feathers when he warned that if the United Kingdom left the EU,
:34:02. > :34:04.France would no longer feel obliged to stop migrants heading
:34:05. > :34:06.from Calais to these shores. When we met, this passionate
:34:07. > :34:09.supporter of the EU began by making You are a great country,
:34:10. > :34:27.and in such a condition, your future as a great country
:34:28. > :34:29.is not outside the EU. It is to be part of the club
:34:30. > :34:32.and to transform the EU I think we need a strong UK
:34:33. > :34:37.and the UK is much stronger Because that is our
:34:38. > :34:44.collective challenge. It is true that if you leave,
:34:45. > :34:52.probably, some people, especially those involved in finance
:34:53. > :34:54.and probably tech, will leave to join the EU and work
:34:55. > :34:59.within the European Union. Definitely Brexit will have
:35:00. > :35:01.direct consequences It will impact the passport,
:35:02. > :35:09.the financial passport, the relationship with the EU,
:35:10. > :35:12.and today the UK is working closely with the rest of the EU,
:35:13. > :35:15.because you're completely enshrined You have been quoted in the past
:35:16. > :35:20.saying that if Brexit happened there would not be migrants
:35:21. > :35:22.in Calais any more. From a political point of view
:35:23. > :35:32.it is obvious it will be extremely tough vis-a-vis our people,
:35:33. > :35:35.especially in the north of France, to say, these guys decided to leave,
:35:36. > :35:38.but we will keep everything No, you will have big
:35:39. > :35:42.political pressure. That is why the president,
:35:43. > :35:44.during the last summit, confirmed that for sure
:35:45. > :35:47.there will be consequences on those different issues
:35:48. > :35:50.in case of a Brexit. And that means more migrants
:35:51. > :35:53.coming through the tunnel And that means more migrants
:35:54. > :36:00.coming through the tunnel Does that not mean that northern
:36:01. > :36:03.France becomes more of a magnet for migrants and creates bigger
:36:04. > :36:05.problems for France? For me, I am not in this approach
:36:06. > :36:12.to create fears and agitate people. That is not a good
:36:13. > :36:16.motivation for votes. My perspective vis-a-vis Brexit,
:36:17. > :36:21.and your decision to be taken, is more about your role
:36:22. > :36:24.in globalisation today I think the UK is not about becoming
:36:25. > :36:30.Jersey or Guernsey. Today you are strong
:36:31. > :36:34.because you're part of the EU. When you discuss your steel
:36:35. > :36:39.industry with China, you are credible because you're part
:36:40. > :36:42.of the EU, not You would be completely killed
:36:43. > :36:44.otherwise. You would never be in a situation
:36:45. > :36:47.to negotiate face-to-face with the Chinese because your
:36:48. > :36:51.domestic market is not relevant for the Chinese,
:36:52. > :36:55.compared to their domestic market. The EU is the first global domestic
:36:56. > :36:59.market, that is the strength. The problem is surely that
:37:00. > :37:01.lots of people in They say the EU is going to be more
:37:02. > :37:10.and more integrated. It is an integration machine
:37:11. > :37:15.until we get a common EU foreign Even if Britain stays,
:37:16. > :37:18.we will be banging on the outside I think your people and your leaders
:37:19. > :37:31.are extremely vocal when they speak This is something different for me
:37:32. > :37:41.than being against integration. When you look at the situation,
:37:42. > :37:43.the single market, You are more sceptical
:37:44. > :37:51.in terms of monetary policy, I think we managed to find
:37:52. > :37:58.a balance, and to have this balance What would be the consequences
:37:59. > :38:07.of the UK leaving the EU, We have to be very clear that
:38:08. > :38:14.a Brexit will have consequences. At the beginning of the dismantling,
:38:15. > :38:17.everybody which disagrees on one or two points
:38:18. > :38:20.will decide to do the same, On passports, on access
:38:21. > :38:32.to the single market. You will no more be part of the club
:38:33. > :38:35.so you will have consequences. Perhaps we can renegotiate
:38:36. > :38:38.the treaty, like we have with other countries,
:38:39. > :38:39.but with contribution This contribution to the European
:38:40. > :38:49.budget is an access, not automatically,
:38:50. > :38:51.to the fully-fledged single market. You would have the type
:38:52. > :38:53.of relationship we have You have to bear that in mind, for
:38:54. > :38:59.sure you would have consequences. Otherwise it does not make sense
:39:00. > :39:10.to have a European Union. On the other side, I think
:39:11. > :39:13.the reaction we have to put in place for the rest of the member states
:39:14. > :39:16.is precisely to go further, and to propose a series
:39:17. > :39:19.of integration measures, integration proposals,
:39:20. > :39:24.and a roadmap for more integration, precisely to have a proactive
:39:25. > :39:26.and positive perspective for Europe, We have to create movement,
:39:27. > :39:33.not to leave the floor for those For my country, I do believe,
:39:34. > :39:41.as I do believe for the UK, by the way, that the unique way
:39:42. > :39:46.to succeed in globalisation is not to become Singapore or Hong Kong,
:39:47. > :39:49.it is to become a big strong That is our history,
:39:50. > :39:57.that is our future. Let me ask you about one of the big
:39:58. > :40:01.issues between our countries at the moment, which is the future
:40:02. > :40:04.of the Hinkley Point We had thought that was more or less
:40:05. > :40:11.a done deal, but it has been suggested that
:40:12. > :40:15.because of the massive debt that will burden EDF with,
:40:16. > :40:18.that this is no longer something that is definitely going to happen,
:40:19. > :40:20.that is not certain. We are actively working
:40:21. > :40:24.with your company. I had a series of discussions
:40:25. > :40:27.with my counterparts in your government on the technicalities
:40:28. > :40:30.of the deal, to finalise precisely The political commitment
:40:31. > :40:41.is completely confirmed. It is very important for France,
:40:42. > :40:46.it is very important Now we have to finalise the work,
:40:47. > :40:53.and especially the technical and industrial work,
:40:54. > :40:59.very closely with EDF, with the British government,
:41:00. > :41:01.to be in a situation to sign That is my view, from our
:41:02. > :41:13.perspective, because it is very important for our commitment
:41:14. > :41:15.to nuclear energy. I think that is your choice
:41:16. > :41:22.and our choice. You have a new movement, tell me
:41:23. > :41:25.about "En Marche!", what is it for? We have proposed radical reforms,
:41:26. > :41:46.strong reforms, ambitious reforms for the country,
:41:47. > :41:48.without being captured by the classical right
:41:49. > :41:49.and left approach. Because when you look at France,
:41:50. > :41:53.it is the labour market, it is all about balance
:41:54. > :41:55.and relationships between freedom and justice,
:41:56. > :41:57.freedom and security. In one year, we have a
:41:58. > :42:05.presidential election. We have to build, in a new way,
:42:06. > :42:08.in a much more inclusive approach, not just a political programme,
:42:09. > :42:13.but a very precise roadmap with the people to propose
:42:14. > :42:16.to the country on the basis Working with people coming
:42:17. > :42:24.from the right, people And to propose that to the country
:42:25. > :42:28.and try to deliver. When you speak like that,
:42:29. > :42:31.you remind me very much I do not know in your mouth
:42:32. > :42:42.if it is a promise or a threat. If you were persuaded that
:42:43. > :42:49.you were the person to stop Marine Le Pen becoming
:42:50. > :42:51.the next French president, I do not want to enter
:42:52. > :42:59.into such a discussion. Today I work as a minister
:43:00. > :43:02.of the economy for this government. I work very hard because I want
:43:03. > :43:05.to deliver for my country. I launched this movement
:43:06. > :43:08.because I think we have to go beyond and deliver much
:43:09. > :43:11.more, full stop. I accept that but do you think
:43:12. > :43:13.that President Hollande I think it is much too far
:43:14. > :43:21.before the election. It is very tough in all countries
:43:22. > :43:25.to govern today. I think, if he makes
:43:26. > :43:28.a very bold decision, if he explains what he's doing,
:43:29. > :43:31.you definitely could No, I think one year
:43:32. > :43:41.before, it is impossible. Minister, thank you very
:43:42. > :43:43.much for talking to us. The French Economy Minister,
:43:44. > :43:47.Emmanuel Macron. All around the country this week,
:43:48. > :43:50.this leaflet has been dropping It's cost the government ?9 million
:43:51. > :43:56.to tell us directly why we should Last week, Lord Lawson told me this
:43:57. > :44:01.was outrageous propaganda, so I'm going to put some
:44:02. > :44:05.of the points in it to a supporter of us leaving the EU,
:44:06. > :44:16.Cabinet minister Chris Grayling. Would you regard this thing is
:44:17. > :44:20.propaganda, or a fear start to the Eichmann? What IMAX -- what I am
:44:21. > :44:26.experiencing now among the people who have received it, they see it as
:44:27. > :44:30.part of the campaign and not the dispassionately flipped. They are
:44:31. > :44:35.treating it as part of the remaining campaign. It is not being treated by
:44:36. > :44:40.voters out there as an independent, authoritative document. They are
:44:41. > :44:44.rightly sceptical about it. It seems to me that it is not strong in its
:44:45. > :44:51.language, it is not making wild claims. It says things like, the EU
:44:52. > :44:57.is by far the UK's biggest trading partner. EU countries by 44% of
:44:58. > :45:01.everything we sell abroad. We are one of their biggest trading
:45:02. > :45:05.partners. One of the points we do not hear from the campaign to remain
:45:06. > :45:09.is that we buy far more from the European Union than they buy from
:45:10. > :45:13.us. It is interesting to hear Emmanuel Macron about their possibly
:45:14. > :45:17.being consequences for Britain. This man certainly appears to want to be
:45:18. > :45:21.the next president of France. In 12 months' time he may be election
:45:22. > :45:27.needing to become the next president of France. French farmers depend on
:45:28. > :45:31.British consumers and supermarkets for their sales. Do you honestly
:45:32. > :45:36.think he will be saying to those farmers, who are pretty feisty
:45:37. > :45:40.bunch, I will put English -- in jeopardy the religion ship between
:45:41. > :45:44.France and your key market? It is not going to happen. If he does a
:45:45. > :45:50.generous deal with the UK after Brexit, other countries in the EU
:45:51. > :45:51.will say, we want what the British have have, and you will start to get
:45:52. > :45:56.an unravelling? It depends what you mean by
:45:57. > :46:03.generous. All we intend to do It depends what you mean by
:46:04. > :46:06.simply carry on trading. David Cameron sat on this set
:46:07. > :46:07.simply carry on trading. David of January and said of course we
:46:08. > :46:14.will buy far more from them than they do
:46:15. > :46:17.from us, and millions of jobs depend on British consumers to buy their
:46:18. > :46:20.products. The question is what of trading, and this leaflet makes
:46:21. > :46:28.the point that of trading, and this leaflet makes
:46:29. > :46:33.says are linked to exports from the EU and part of that is membership of
:46:34. > :46:37.the single market. I keep asking people on your side of the argument
:46:38. > :46:42.whether we would or would not be in the single market. I have no doubt
:46:43. > :46:55.we would carry on trading tariff free. That means a single market.
:46:56. > :47:06.There's examples of that. When we lost a van plant to Turkey, Turkey
:47:07. > :47:08.is not allowed free movement of the EU so it is a nonsense to suggest we
:47:09. > :47:14.cannot do a deal that will carry EU so it is a nonsense to suggest we
:47:15. > :47:21.allowing us to trade with the EU and carry on allowing
:47:22. > :47:23.allowing us to trade with the EU and products. Lord Lawson said
:47:24. > :47:24.allowing us to trade with the EU and leaving the EU there would be
:47:25. > :47:32.tariffs of up leaving the EU there would be
:47:33. > :47:42.a candidate in the general election leaving the EU there would be
:47:43. > :47:47.our products more expensive so makes no sense. We are talking about
:47:48. > :47:52.a political elite here, not makes no sense. We are talking about
:47:53. > :47:57.voters, people who are committed makes no sense. We are talking about
:47:58. > :48:02.the EU as a project and they think if we leave the EU project starts to
:48:03. > :48:06.go backwards and therefore they would punish us. The Germans and
:48:07. > :48:10.French and everybody who have said if you want access to the single
:48:11. > :48:15.market that is fine but you have got to stump up some money and I accept
:48:16. > :48:21.free movement of people. Their vision is one of the reasons we have
:48:22. > :48:23.to leave. They have set up a single currency, all commentators say there
:48:24. > :48:27.has to be more currency, all commentators say there
:48:28. > :48:28.euro zone if they are to survive. Emmanuel Macron himself
:48:29. > :48:34.euro zone if they are to survive. political union. What does that look
:48:35. > :48:39.in ten years, it is a big block of countries in
:48:40. > :48:43.in ten years, it is a big block of together, merging pension systems
:48:44. > :48:48.and security systems, then there's two bits on the outside, us and
:48:49. > :48:51.Denmark. Does anybody think our voice will carry any sway at all in
:48:52. > :48:55.that situation? voice will carry any sway at all in
:48:56. > :48:59.issue, we won't be part of what they do but if we stay in the European
:49:00. > :49:04.Union we will have no control over what happens in our country. The
:49:05. > :49:08.Prime Minister would say but hold on a second, I renegotiated a lot of
:49:09. > :49:14.this, we will not be part of the single currency or ever closer
:49:15. > :49:17.union. I have guarantees and I brought them back to this country.
:49:18. > :49:23.But nothing changes from the way the European Union makes its laws about
:49:24. > :49:29.what happens in this country. Of course the role of the European
:49:30. > :49:33.court of justice has told us how we have to classify an asylum seeker in
:49:34. > :49:37.this country. That will carry on, their decisions will be binding, so
:49:38. > :49:42.we are very much in a position where a huge swathes of our laws are being
:49:43. > :49:48.made in Brussels, will carry on being made in Brussels, so we will
:49:49. > :49:55.still see more of our power is going to Brussels. I don't know if you
:49:56. > :49:59.heard Emmanuel Macron there also talking about the agreement that
:50:00. > :50:04.keeps migrants trying to get through France into the UK in Calais and has
:50:05. > :50:09.produced the camp and jungle and so forth. He says again that will go.
:50:10. > :50:15.This is a great red herring. The French interior Minister has said
:50:16. > :50:19.very clearly that won't change. It is a bilateral agreement between
:50:20. > :50:23.Britain and France, it is nothing to do with the EU. One of the reasons
:50:24. > :50:26.we don't have lots of refugee camps around Heathrow Airport is that we
:50:27. > :50:30.say to carriers you need to check before someone gets on board that
:50:31. > :50:37.they have a right to come to Britain. We would simply do the same
:50:38. > :50:41.to the cross-channel chains. Lots of people would turn up in France and
:50:42. > :50:45.discover actually there wasn't a way to Britain and France would have a
:50:46. > :50:49.bigger refugee problem than it does now. The French interior minister
:50:50. > :50:53.recognised it won't happen and said that treaty will stay in place. The
:50:54. > :50:57.current president and future potential present don't agree with
:50:58. > :51:02.that, but you are saying we would have full free trade with the rest
:51:03. > :51:07.of the EU without having to pay up or accept free movement. For the
:51:08. > :51:11.rest of the EU, that seems like an extraordinary deal and if they give
:51:12. > :51:16.it to us why wouldn't everyone else wanted? And if they do the entire
:51:17. > :51:21.system falls to pieces, which may be a good thing, I don't know, but they
:51:22. > :51:25.are worried about that. We keep talking about our access to their
:51:26. > :51:31.market. There are millions of European jobs that depend on British
:51:32. > :51:36.consumers so it is about their access to all market. I want them to
:51:37. > :51:41.be able to continue to sell BMW cars, French cheeses tariff free in
:51:42. > :51:45.the UK because that is good for Europe and the relationship between
:51:46. > :51:50.us but it is not a one-way process. We are their biggest customers, we
:51:51. > :51:55.buy far more from them than they do from us and losing that business
:51:56. > :52:01.would be disastrous for producers across the European Union. I think
:52:02. > :52:05.you are speaking, seeing this as a logical free trade thing, whereas
:52:06. > :52:12.they are Europhile Brussels-based politicians with a political agenda
:52:13. > :52:17.of their own which makes it much less likely if we were to leave.
:52:18. > :52:24.They are politicians that need to be elected. Emmanuel Macron maybe the
:52:25. > :52:36.French political candidate next year. Does anybody think he will say
:52:37. > :52:42.to farmers that they cannot sell to us? The people on the other side of
:52:43. > :52:46.the argument from you include IMF, big business and surely President
:52:47. > :52:51.Obama coming over here. Do you agree with Boris Johnson that he is a
:52:52. > :52:55.hypocrite? I don't think President Obama will tolerate a situation
:52:56. > :53:00.where the United States gave away as much of its sovereignty as we have
:53:01. > :53:06.to Brussels. It is inconceivable. So this is naked hypocrisy. In my view
:53:07. > :53:11.he perhaps doesn't understand the nature of the transfer of power that
:53:12. > :53:14.has taken place but if Americans truly knew how much of our national
:53:15. > :53:20.sovereignty resided in Brussels they would never argue we should stay. It
:53:21. > :53:26.is basically ignorance on his part, not hypocrisy? I can only think he
:53:27. > :53:29.doesn't realise. The IMF has a wonderful track record of
:53:30. > :53:34.forecasting the British economy. Two years ago their chief economist
:53:35. > :53:37.accused George Osborne of playing with fire with his economic strategy
:53:38. > :53:42.and 12 months later they had to apologise because they got it so
:53:43. > :53:47.wrong. You have no big international organisations on your side, do you?
:53:48. > :53:51.You have got to follow the money. What is happening right now, in the
:53:52. > :53:56.middle of this debate the German stock exchange has chosen to spend
:53:57. > :53:59.billions of euros to buying into the London stock exchange. Avon is
:54:00. > :54:05.choosing to locate its headquarters in Britain. Where decisions are
:54:06. > :54:10.being taken, they are not in line with what people are saying in the
:54:11. > :54:17.debate, they are coming to Britain. With David Davis I was talking about
:54:18. > :54:29.if we voted to leave what would happen to the Prime Minister. You
:54:30. > :54:34.are the people saying it should be done,... I want David Cameron to
:54:35. > :54:36.stay, not only because he is a good Prime Minister but because he has
:54:37. > :54:40.the relationships we need around Europe to build a negotiating
:54:41. > :54:46.process. It would be disastrous in my view if we vote to leave and then
:54:47. > :54:53.get distracted by a leadership contest. And do you want him to
:54:54. > :54:57.renegotiate? I want him to be part of a team. Thank you for joining us
:54:58. > :54:59.today. Now over to Christian
:55:00. > :55:01.for the news headlines. At least 77 people have been killed
:55:02. > :55:04.following a powerful earthquake off The epicentre was 27 kilometres
:55:05. > :55:08.from the coastal town of Muisne, A state of emergency has been
:55:09. > :55:11.declared across much The French Economy Minister has
:55:12. > :55:15.confirmed that his Government is committed to the construction
:55:16. > :55:17.of a new nuclear power station The ?18 billion cost of the project
:55:18. > :55:21.had meant that some doubt But Emmanuel Macron told this
:55:22. > :55:25.programme that EDF Energy, which is controlled by the French
:55:26. > :55:43.state, has full political backing The political con movement is
:55:44. > :55:49.completely confirmed. It is very important for France, it is very
:55:50. > :55:51.important for EDF. The next news on BBC One
:55:52. > :55:54.is at one o'clock. First, let's have a look at what's
:55:55. > :56:05.coming up immediately At ten we will be asking if public
:56:06. > :56:09.figures including MPs have a right to privacy. Will the Catholic Church
:56:10. > :56:12.only change when women get more power? And finally, does God care
:56:13. > :56:14.what you wear? On the Sunday Politics in an hour,
:56:15. > :56:20.Andrew Neil talks to Next week, for one week only,
:56:21. > :56:24.we'll be on BBC Two, because of coverage
:56:25. > :56:26.of the London Marathon. Do join me - BBC Two, nine o'clock -
:56:27. > :56:30.when I'm delighted to say I'll be talking to that legend of song
:56:31. > :56:33.writing Paul Simon, and the actor For now, we leave you with
:56:34. > :56:36.the cellist Guy Johnston. It's just been announced that Guy
:56:37. > :56:40.will be performing two Prom concerts He's here for us now with some Bach
:56:41. > :56:55.- the bourree