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:00:00. > :00:00.After the most extraordinary month in living political memory,

:00:07. > :00:09.the Commons, exhausted, has now limped off

:00:10. > :00:14.But from a new government desperate to reassure Brexit voters

:00:15. > :00:17.that it won't betray them, through to the Labour leadership

:00:18. > :00:41.In the battle of ideas, it's going to be a long, hot summer.

:00:42. > :00:45.In our last show of the season, we cover all the political bases

:00:46. > :00:48.with John McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor,

:00:49. > :00:53.Patrick McLoughlin - the man who has to keep

:00:54. > :00:57.Tory members and Tory ministers marching in step.

:00:58. > :00:59.And Paddy Ashdown - marching at the head

:01:00. > :01:11.Here to review the papers, The Independent's Amol Rajan,

:01:12. > :01:14.the Labour MP Alison McGovern, and Isabel Hardman,

:01:15. > :01:21.And - move over James Bond - Hollywood's Matt Damon,

:01:22. > :01:23.with the Bourne franchise, is muscling in -

:01:24. > :01:37.It should be highly entertaining. It is supposed to entertain.

:01:38. > :01:41.And we have a suite of cellists: no fewer than 11 of them are here

:01:42. > :01:52.to play us out with some lively Brahms.

:01:53. > :01:56.All that's coming up, but first the news, with Tina Daheley.

:01:57. > :02:01.Hundreds of people have been forced to spend the night in their cars,

:02:02. > :02:03.trapped in huge tailbacks outside the port of Dover.

:02:04. > :02:06.Extra staff have been drafted in, to help ease the backlog -

:02:07. > :02:08.caused by heightened security checks, by the French authorities.

:02:09. > :02:11.This morning, people are being warned to expect delays

:02:12. > :02:18.The big getaway that became the big standstill.

:02:19. > :02:22.Queues heading to Dover, stretching back more than 12 miles

:02:23. > :02:25.at one point, people stuck in cars for up to 14 hours.

:02:26. > :02:33.There is a family behind us, they were all asleep in the car.

:02:34. > :02:37.The guy opposite got out and stretched his legs,

:02:38. > :02:39.he's gone back in and put his head down.

:02:40. > :02:42.In hot temperatures, some found that food, water

:02:43. > :02:50.The motorway is full, people are waiting in the sunshine,

:02:51. > :02:56.no water, no toilets, it is horrible for them!

:02:57. > :02:58.Where are the police controlling the traffic?

:02:59. > :03:00.I'd like to see some traffic control.

:03:01. > :03:04.The worst affected roads were the M20 and A20 eastbound.

:03:05. > :03:06.Traffic was also backing up along the A2.

:03:07. > :03:12.The advice from Kent police was to use smaller local roads.

:03:13. > :03:15.It is said to be the result of extra security checks at Dover

:03:16. > :03:19.after the recent terror attack in Nice.

:03:20. > :03:30.Port officials also said there were not enough border control staff.

:03:31. > :03:32.The UK Home Office is sending its own staff to help.

:03:33. > :03:34.Ferry officers say that people who miss their crossing

:03:35. > :03:38.Police are warning that the disruption is likely to last

:03:39. > :03:43.A former Shadow Cabinet minister has accused staff working

:03:44. > :03:45.for the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and the Shadow Chancellor,

:03:46. > :03:47.John McDonnell of entering her House of Commons office

:03:48. > :03:51.Seema Malhotra, who resigned as Shadow Chief Secretary

:03:52. > :03:54.to the Treasury, has written to the Speaker John Bercow claiming

:03:55. > :03:59.Labour say the allegations are untrue - and a member

:04:00. > :04:01.of Mr Corbyn's staff had gone to the office to check

:04:02. > :04:08.Police in Germany say the teenage gunman who shot dead nine people

:04:09. > :04:10.in Munich on Friday had researched mass killings.

:04:11. > :04:13.27 people were injured during the attack

:04:14. > :04:17.The gunman - named locally as David Ali Sonboly,

:04:18. > :04:21.Police say they're investigating whether he may have used

:04:22. > :04:25.social media to lure his victims to the mall.

:04:26. > :04:27.A group of MPs has urged the government to make an immediate

:04:28. > :04:30.decision on airport expansion in the Southeast of England.

:04:31. > :04:32.The British Infrastructure Group says UK industry

:04:33. > :04:37.The Department for Transport said it was important to consider

:04:38. > :04:41.all the evidence in order to make the right decision.

:04:42. > :04:44.Prosecutors will get new guidance on hate crime and be encouraged

:04:45. > :04:46.to press courts for tougher sentences, after a surge

:04:47. > :04:49.in reported incidents in the wake of the EU referendum.

:04:50. > :04:52.The Home Office says a new ?2.4 million fund will also

:04:53. > :04:56.be established to improve security at synagogues, mosques, churches

:04:57. > :05:01.The steps will be outlined in the Government's new hate crime

:05:02. > :05:04.action plan, which will be published next week.

:05:05. > :05:25.If you want to get on the front page of papers, kill somebody. That is

:05:26. > :05:35.the message today. The guy who killed in Munich is everywhere. Lots

:05:36. > :05:50.of analysis. It does not seem to be politically motivated.

:05:51. > :05:57.Another story in the Mail on Sunday. This is about Jeremy Corbyn and

:05:58. > :06:02.socialist T-shirts which were produced by workers getting just 30p

:06:03. > :06:06.an hour, after they had raised that story as something to campaign

:06:07. > :06:15.about. And therefore a charge of hypocrisy. Amol Rajan from the

:06:16. > :06:21.Independent, we cannot show it as a paper paper any more, you have it on

:06:22. > :06:26.your iPad. The story was this loan 18-year-old German Iranian who

:06:27. > :06:32.killed people in Munich. The stories have the same trajectory. We have

:06:33. > :06:35.the drama of life events, the manhunt, then the national morning

:06:36. > :06:41.and then Day three you always get the psychology, what was going on in

:06:42. > :06:48.the mind of the killer. Our journalist in Munich has found he

:06:49. > :06:56.was a very modern killer. He was obsessed with the Norwegian neo-Nazi

:06:57. > :07:04.and the attack was held on the fifth anniversary. He had used his profile

:07:05. > :07:09.picture and sent out a message saying come to this McDonald's on

:07:10. > :07:13.there will be free food. He was a very modern killer. It puts me in

:07:14. > :07:20.mind of the novel we need to talk about Kevin which is about a mad

:07:21. > :07:25.teenager. I do not think this was a political act. Even Angela Merkel

:07:26. > :07:31.said it was Islamist in nature but it does not look like it was. I

:07:32. > :07:36.think this is a depressed, troubled, loan teenager. He has used the

:07:37. > :07:43.Internet to research this and unfortunately he had access to guns.

:07:44. > :07:46.Isabel, you have the timeline. There will be a lot of people thinking

:07:47. > :07:53.what is going on in Europe, taking us from January 2015 in Paris

:07:54. > :07:58.through to these recent events. It does feel like an incredibly

:07:59. > :08:00.dangerous time and lots of people will be worrying, and also

:08:01. > :08:08.absolutely feeling for those affected. It seems like we are all

:08:09. > :08:14.vulnerable. Nowhere is safe? Yes, and the knock-on effect on the news

:08:15. > :08:18.with the extra checks causing tailbacks on the Port of Dover and

:08:19. > :08:23.the consequences of this are huge. Not least, we have also seen in

:08:24. > :08:25.Kabul last night. We don't hear much about Kabul but that is partly

:08:26. > :08:33.because it happened right in the middle of the night. If you look at

:08:34. > :08:38.the BBC's own coverage online, they have tried to explain what has

:08:39. > :08:46.happened overnight. We should tell people. 80 people have been killed.

:08:47. > :08:50.And 230 injured. Events around the world are terribly serious. We in

:08:51. > :08:56.the West should remember we have got out of Afghanistan, it is over, but

:08:57. > :09:00.it is not over for Afghanis. Not at all. People have taken part in a

:09:01. > :09:10.democratic process and paid a terrible price for that. Isabel, I

:09:11. > :09:13.think you wherein Nice and you have chosen a story about that, but you

:09:14. > :09:18.missed it. Yes, narrowly. It was horrible going to the promenade and

:09:19. > :09:21.seeing the memorials. This is a piece in the Telegraph. It said

:09:22. > :09:26.although German politicians will point out it was a lone wolf attack,

:09:27. > :09:29.it still has huge political implications for Angela Merkel

:09:30. > :09:34.because it feeds into a narrative that she has made a mistake with

:09:35. > :09:40.Germany's immigration and asylum policy. Letting in a million people?

:09:41. > :09:43.Yes, it is not just the wrath of the German public, but her standing in

:09:44. > :09:46.Europe. In terms of negotiations with the British and may be standing

:09:47. > :10:02.with Theresa May during the Brexit negotiations,

:10:03. > :10:05.there is a whole knock-on effect. He was born in Germany, he said, I was

:10:06. > :10:08.born in Germany, but Angela Merkel is under pressure, especially from

:10:09. > :10:13.the right wing party in Germany. This links to the narrative about

:10:14. > :10:19.her asylum policy. You mentioned Brexit. There are two interesting

:10:20. > :10:23.stories, one is from the Observer. There is a great story about how

:10:24. > :10:29.Theresa May has been on the phone to the French president over the last

:10:30. > :10:34.week and Mr Hollande has said, this whole Brexit then, shall we row back

:10:35. > :10:38.on its slightly? We can offer some concessions. The line in the

:10:39. > :10:42.Observer is the EU is offering an emergency brake on all immigration

:10:43. > :10:49.which will go further than what David Cameron in his famous

:10:50. > :10:57.renegotiation would achieve. This is what Cameron wanted, but to stay in

:10:58. > :11:01.a single market. The deal that Theresa May has been offered, would

:11:02. > :11:05.that have been enough to swing the referendum result? This is exactly

:11:06. > :11:09.what Boris Johnson said would happen. If we vote to leave, they

:11:10. > :11:13.would come back with a better deal. Have they done that? It is still

:11:14. > :11:22.speculation, it has not been formalised. The other story is in

:11:23. > :11:25.the Sunday Times. 20 or 25 MPs met for breakfast in Parliament. You

:11:26. > :11:30.know that when they meet for breakfast something is really a

:11:31. > :11:33.foot! They met for breakfast and there is a useful picture of Iain

:11:34. > :11:37.Duncan Smith who's clearly among the 25 where they have said, Brexit

:11:38. > :11:40.really does mean Brexit. No one knows what this means. They are

:11:41. > :11:45.demanding that Theresa May is hard line. They want her to pull out of

:11:46. > :11:49.the single market and they want total control of immigration. They

:11:50. > :11:55.will almost be like a paramilitary group forcing her to be hardline. On

:11:56. > :11:59.the one hand, Theresa May is being tempted by attractive standard

:12:00. > :12:01.offers from the EU which will be attractive for rich business but on

:12:02. > :12:08.the other hand, she has potential insurrection on the Tory benches. 25

:12:09. > :12:12.is bigger than her majority. She may have changed the front bench but she

:12:13. > :12:16.has not changed the political balance in Parliament. She has

:12:17. > :12:21.managed to annoy more people than she has in her majority. There are

:12:22. > :12:26.definitely more than 12 angry Tory MPs stalking the corridors. There

:12:27. > :12:34.were some MPs who were very angry that they had not been promoted.

:12:35. > :12:38.This is not on the football terraces? This is on the lovely

:12:39. > :12:42.House of Commons terrace. They threw back their passes on Monday night

:12:43. > :12:47.because they were very cross. They had not been given jobs. Anyone

:12:48. > :12:50.would think the country was fine! They are now going back to their

:12:51. > :12:55.constituencies and they have the whole of the summer to stew. This

:12:56. > :13:00.means that will be quite a febrile month in the Conservative Party.

:13:01. > :13:09.Theresa May has had a lovely start as Conservative leader. She had a

:13:10. > :13:13.wonderful Prime Minister's Questions but it will get harder in September.

:13:14. > :13:18.Allison, there are a lot of warnings about economic catastrophe. It is

:13:19. > :13:24.hard to know what is going on after Brexit? That is right. The Observer

:13:25. > :13:28.has got another story about which of the Brexit kind of horror

:13:29. > :13:33.predictions have come true. Essentially, we might not know until

:13:34. > :13:38.the autumn, but I think it is really interesting how there is Tory party

:13:39. > :13:42.turmoil on the one hand, but actually, the reality of economic

:13:43. > :13:46.turmoil is therefore people as the pound has kind of gone through the

:13:47. > :13:52.floor. Early indications were not too bad. We need a lower pound in

:13:53. > :13:55.many ways for exporters and a downturn in property prices is good

:13:56. > :14:01.news and there were not signs of massive numbers of companies pushing

:14:02. > :14:04.off to France. The market has responded to what is in essence a

:14:05. > :14:10.political crisis, and what is really interesting is that demonstration of

:14:11. > :14:16.how that is happening, but also, the recent takeover of a RM by this

:14:17. > :14:27.Japanese giant, will that happen more often? -- ARM. That is in

:14:28. > :14:31.contrast with Theresa May's offer saying I will be the one to

:14:32. > :14:36.rebalance the economy, I will be the one to develop the economy for

:14:37. > :14:41.ordinary people. We do not know what this resetting of the economy by

:14:42. > :14:47.Philip Hammond means. It is a great phrase. He has been in China doing

:14:48. > :14:52.goodness knows what, while at home people are rightly worried. Let's

:14:53. > :14:56.move on to the Labour Party. There must be acres of coverage of what is

:14:57. > :15:00.going on with Jeremy Corbyn. All of the papers have covered this at

:15:01. > :15:04.great length but you can sum it up in one line which is Corbyn will

:15:05. > :15:09.win. Owen Smith is this Welsh moderate challenger. He has

:15:10. > :15:15.triggered this contest. Angela Eagle has said we could not have a unity

:15:16. > :15:23.candidate and then splits it in two so Angela Eagle pulled out. The

:15:24. > :15:28.polls show Jeremy Corbyn at 57%. Just before Alison comes in on it,

:15:29. > :15:32.there are two things. One is the practicalities of who will win and

:15:33. > :15:36.what is going on in labour. There is a deeper philosophical point which

:15:37. > :15:42.is identity and Jeremy Corbyn believes in Parliament. One of his

:15:43. > :15:45.heroes is Ralph Miliband and his first book was called Parliamentary

:15:46. > :15:53.Socialism written in 1961. Appointed Parliamentary Socialism is an

:15:54. > :15:55.oxymoron. That is the reason why Corbyn is having so many

:15:56. > :16:01.difficulties with his parliamentary party. Let's move onto another

:16:02. > :16:07.story, this one about Sime Malhotra who was very close to John McDonnell

:16:08. > :16:12.and Jeremy Corbyn and she has now resigned -- seamer Malhotra she

:16:13. > :16:17.believes her office was broken into. For many people that is not a big

:16:18. > :16:25.thing, why is it a big thing, Alison?

:16:26. > :16:32.photos are security is tight, there is sensitivity about what happens

:16:33. > :16:37.there. People who work in open plan offices wouldn't understand MPs have

:16:38. > :16:43.relatively small offices. And it is your haven. We have people's data,

:16:44. > :16:54.we are security conscience. I don't think if this was a serious issue,

:16:55. > :16:58.Seema would have done what she has done. I think we are at risk of

:16:59. > :17:03.losing the fact that whilst Angela has definitely done the right thing,

:17:04. > :17:12.I win would be a great candidate and I would pack away the crystal ball

:17:13. > :17:18.because this is hard to call, -- Owen, I think there are lots of

:17:19. > :17:26.women who are very sad that we have done all mail ballot paper. Women

:17:27. > :17:36.like Seema, I do think we need not to lose sight of our mission for

:17:37. > :17:43.equality. What has the Conservative Party ever done for women, it keeps

:17:44. > :17:49.making them Prime Minister! That is Patrick McLoughlin who will be

:17:50. > :17:58.talking to us later on. It is an interesting interview, he tries to

:17:59. > :18:04.define Mayism, and is quite vague. He ends up talking about the chief

:18:05. > :18:07.adviser, the brains behind her on the vision behind her, and it will

:18:08. > :18:15.be interesting to see how much of Nick Timothy's vision makes it into

:18:16. > :18:19.practice. We have certainly seen his influence on her reshuffle. We need

:18:20. > :18:25.to see him on the sofa and asking most questions directly. The weather

:18:26. > :18:34.has been scorching hot here but we know nothing. Yes, here's hoping

:18:35. > :18:41.Mayism isn't just mayhem. We think it is warm here, but in the weight

:18:42. > :18:48.it has been 54 degrees. -- in Kuwait. I can't imagine how people

:18:49. > :18:54.cope in such heat, it is unimaginable. You lead us perfectly

:18:55. > :19:02.into the next item which is the weather. I beg your pardon, it is

:19:03. > :19:06.Paddy Ashdown! As we were saying in the paper review, you have launched

:19:07. > :19:19.a new political movement. First of all, it is called... More United

:19:20. > :19:27..uk. It springs out of the speech Jo Cox made. There is a group of us of

:19:28. > :19:31.17, across all societies, who believe there are hundreds of

:19:32. > :19:35.thousands, potentially millions of people out there, who hates seeing

:19:36. > :19:39.our country dragged to the extremes, who believe in what I would call the

:19:40. > :19:43.values of a civilised country, I will come to that in a minute, and

:19:44. > :19:48.who want the means to express their views. We give them that today and

:19:49. > :19:51.what's more we give them the opportunity to change British

:19:52. > :19:54.politics away from politics funded by big money which tracks the

:19:55. > :20:03.political parties to the extremes to being funded by lots of small money

:20:04. > :20:06.which holds it in the centre. All right so it is pro-European, I would

:20:07. > :20:16.imagine. Let me list the principles, and if you agree with this, go to

:20:17. > :20:20.More United .uk and sign up. If it becomes a political movement, we

:20:21. > :20:26.asked people to contribute money, we invest that in candidates who

:20:27. > :20:32.support the pencil -- the principles. And I'm mentally

:20:33. > :20:37.responsible policies, a reformed democracy giving power to the voter,

:20:38. > :20:41.no more governments elected on less than 25% of the vote, an

:20:42. > :20:45.internationalist country that values diversity, wants to be as close to

:20:46. > :20:51.the European Union as possible, and if we get the opportunity to vote to

:20:52. > :20:56.go back into the European Union. It sounds remarkably like the Liberal

:20:57. > :21:01.Democrats. There are people here from all ranks of life. Simon

:21:02. > :21:11.Schama, damn snow. You have a party that believes in these things, why

:21:12. > :21:14.set up something new? I love the Liberal Democrats, I hope people

:21:15. > :21:18.will subscribe to them, but there are millions of people who want to

:21:19. > :21:22.make a difference without subscribing to a political party. If

:21:23. > :21:27.we raise money from individuals, lots of small money, not big money,

:21:28. > :21:33.and invest those of candidates from any political party - Tory, Lib

:21:34. > :21:37.Dem... Though it herbivores momentum. It is giving people the

:21:38. > :21:41.chance to experience activities of political parties and giving them a

:21:42. > :21:45.chance all year round, and giving them a chance to use their

:21:46. > :21:50.resources, financial and manpower, to support any candidate from any

:21:51. > :21:54.party who supports these principles. Guzman live in a Parliamentary

:21:55. > :21:58.democracy, in the end it is about getting people elected to Parliament

:21:59. > :22:06.most people would say, and you support a candidate that believes in

:22:07. > :22:16.it broadly speaking, so put money in. Money and manpower. I can see

:22:17. > :22:22.the Liberal Democrats, the Green, and maybe a Tory who all support

:22:23. > :22:26.your values. What do you do? Interview the candidates and decide

:22:27. > :22:30.which one to support, very simple. This could mean your movement would

:22:31. > :22:36.be campaigning against Liberal Democrat candidates in some

:22:37. > :22:40.circumstances. It could easily mean that but what we are trying to do...

:22:41. > :22:43.This is not about politicians, it is about ordinary people who want to

:22:44. > :22:47.make a difference and don't necessarily want to do it political

:22:48. > :22:52.party. Having the influence to be able to sport a certain set of

:22:53. > :22:56.principles. Any candidate from any party who accepts and adheres to the

:22:57. > :23:01.principles and will put them into practice. They will be assisted by

:23:02. > :23:07.the movement and the money it generates and manpower. Have you

:23:08. > :23:19.spoken to the other parties? Of course I have. There is damn snow,

:23:20. > :23:21.Simon Schama... They are historians rather than politicians. We have

:23:22. > :23:26.young youth worker, a whole raft of people who believe, as I do, that

:23:27. > :23:31.there are millions out there who we have to reach you don't want to

:23:32. > :23:34.change politics. We want to bring Britain back to moderate values,

:23:35. > :23:39.believe in talking about the benefits of immigration, and we want

:23:40. > :23:46.to give them influence in our politics. In a sense it is people on

:23:47. > :23:53.the 16 million side of the Brexit vote who lost. No, we say quite

:23:54. > :23:56.simply if Brexit is the answer, and it is the answer given by the

:23:57. > :24:01.British people, then we want to be as close to Europe as possible, in

:24:02. > :24:04.the case of Brexit, but if we get the opportunity to deal with that

:24:05. > :24:13.question again we would be in favour of Britain rejoining. Is this partly

:24:14. > :24:21.about Jeremy Corbyn winning the Labour leadership again? You're not

:24:22. > :24:24.trying to create another SDP? This is not about political parties. I

:24:25. > :24:30.hope the Liberal Democrats, who are growing very fast, continue to

:24:31. > :24:35.prosper. This is about giving people a voice who want to make sure that

:24:36. > :24:38.Britain remains a moderate, decent country and who don't want

:24:39. > :24:42.necessarily to do that through the political parties. What Labour will

:24:43. > :24:46.do is what Labour will do, but this movement gives voice to the

:24:47. > :24:50.voiceless, who want to hold this country in the centre, and gives

:24:51. > :24:54.them the financial and manpower ability, leverage, to make sure they

:24:55. > :24:59.get their way with candidates elected from any party. Paddy

:25:00. > :25:21.Ashdown, thank you for talking to us. Now to the weather at last.

:25:22. > :25:23.For gentle fair-skinned Scots like myself,

:25:24. > :25:28.I lie there at night unable to sleep, dreaming of a cool breeze,

:25:29. > :25:32.Let's see - with Stav Danaos in the weather studio.

:25:33. > :25:36.Things are set to turn cooler. Yesterday we saw top temperature of

:25:37. > :25:40.29 Celsius in Northolt, it felt even hotter because of the humidity.

:25:41. > :25:45.There will still be some warmth across the Southeast generally

:25:46. > :25:53.speaking, it is a cloudy day across the UK today. This rain is becoming

:25:54. > :25:57.more widespread and heavy in the north-west and England, and in

:25:58. > :26:01.Scotland pretty atrocious driving conditions here. Again, East Anglia

:26:02. > :26:08.and the south-east seeing hazy sunshine and warm, humid field to

:26:09. > :26:12.things here, but for the northwest it will feel fresher. The rain

:26:13. > :26:19.becomes confined to northern areas overnight, and further south it will

:26:20. > :26:24.be drier. The fresher air will follow on behind this, pushing the

:26:25. > :26:29.humid air on towards the continent so overnight it will be a

:26:30. > :26:33.comfortable one for people sleeping. A little bit fresher for all into

:26:34. > :26:37.next week with a mixture of sunshine and showers for much of the UK with

:26:38. > :26:42.temperatures around average for the time of year. Good news, I'm off to

:26:43. > :26:46.Scotland next week so I will get lots of nice, refreshing rain.

:26:47. > :26:49.The new Prime Minister has a really hard balancing act ahead of her.

:26:50. > :26:51.Much of British business is desperate for us to stay

:26:52. > :26:53.inside the single market, which probably wouldn't mean

:26:54. > :26:57.But on the other side, many Tory activists are deeply

:26:58. > :26:59.worried that the new Government will betray the referendum result

:27:00. > :27:03.Patrick McLoughlin, as party chairman, is the man in the middle.

:27:04. > :27:13.Before we come onto Brexit, a European related story which is

:27:14. > :27:18.these terrible tailbacks, some setting for 15 hours in boiling

:27:19. > :27:24.weather in their cars with children, desperate for police or anyone else

:27:25. > :27:27.to bring them water. This is a mess, why has happened? I think we can

:27:28. > :27:37.understand why the French would want to increase security after what

:27:38. > :27:39.happened in Nice last week. What is unacceptable is the way in which

:27:40. > :27:48.people have been left in the lurch... At one point just one

:27:49. > :27:52.person checking passport. One person checking coaches as I understand it,

:27:53. > :27:55.and that's unacceptable. There have been discussions between our

:27:56. > :27:59.government and the French government to try to ease the situation as much

:28:00. > :28:06.as we possibly can, but one has to acknowledge that the horrendous

:28:07. > :28:11.incident in Nice would have put the French authorities on much higher

:28:12. > :28:16.alert. And you think it is all about that, no suggestion it is a

:28:17. > :28:23.punishment for Brexit? I don't think so at all. To French and to's,

:28:24. > :28:32.tourism is an important industry. The same part of the country, the

:28:33. > :28:35.terrible disaster of southern rail. Again, all the summer people have

:28:36. > :28:40.been unable to see their children at night when they are coming home,

:28:41. > :28:43.unable to get to work on time, many trains have been cancelled, again it

:28:44. > :28:47.is a terrible mess and it comes down to a contract that you signed with

:28:48. > :28:51.them which means they don't have any hard financial penalties for not

:28:52. > :28:56.delivering the service. We are seeing record investment in our

:28:57. > :29:01.Railways, this is quite important because this is actually about an

:29:02. > :29:08.industrial dispute. This is about whether the RMT will accept driver

:29:09. > :29:15.only operated trains. Lots of trains already in Southern operate on

:29:16. > :29:19.driver only trains. We are seeing record investment and an industrial

:29:20. > :29:24.dispute. You're saying it is nothing to do with the company at all? Of

:29:25. > :29:27.course the company has some responsibility but the main reason

:29:28. > :29:31.for the problems is because of an industrial dispute. There will

:29:32. > :29:38.always be times on the railways when sometimes the problems are with the

:29:39. > :29:40.infrastructure. This seems to be management incompetence. Claire

:29:41. > :29:49.Perry resigned partly because of that, don't you hold responsibility

:29:50. > :29:54.for that contract you signed? They do lose money but the simple fact is

:29:55. > :29:59.this is an industrial dispute. The RMT have been on strike but they

:30:00. > :30:02.also have positions where sickness levels have risen immeasurably as

:30:03. > :30:07.far as people not reporting in for work and one can only draw

:30:08. > :30:11.conclusions that part of that is because of the dispute taking place.

:30:12. > :30:23.What kind of comfort can you offer those people whose lives have been

:30:24. > :30:28.ruined by this, family relationships have been damaged, and it goes on

:30:29. > :30:31.and on? Obviously Chris Grayling will be looking at what measures he

:30:32. > :30:36.can take as the Transport Secretary, but I want to see that investment, I

:30:37. > :30:43.want to see those new trains. London Bridge, which is causing some of the

:30:44. > :30:48.problems, undergoing a ?700 million refurbishment. That will lead to a

:30:49. > :30:53.better service. Let's turn to Brexit. On the one hand you have a

:30:54. > :30:58.lot of companies desperate to in some way keep in the single market.

:30:59. > :31:02.Boris Johnson has suggested there will be some kind of compromise that

:31:03. > :31:06.can be done. An interesting story in the Observer today suggested that

:31:07. > :31:11.the French at least are saying, we can do a deal, we can give you less

:31:12. > :31:16.immigration and you can stay in the single market. For a lot of your

:31:17. > :31:21.supporters, that would be a betrayal of the Brexit vote.

:31:22. > :31:30.Let us see. We four weeks on from when the referendum took place. I am

:31:31. > :31:34.of the result that the referendum result is binding on Parliament. The

:31:35. > :31:40.Prime Minister has made it clear that Brexit means Brexit. But what

:31:41. > :31:44.does Brexit mean? It means we are coming out of the European Union. We

:31:45. > :31:48.want to see our borders under our own control and we obviously want to

:31:49. > :31:53.see the best we can for British investment. We have seen some inward

:31:54. > :31:58.investment taking place after the Brexit vote. A lot of the millions

:31:59. > :32:03.of people who voted for Brexit assumed it would mean an end to mass

:32:04. > :32:07.migration, will it? I think there were several reasons why people

:32:08. > :32:11.voted to leave the EU. I don't think you can say it is one particular

:32:12. > :32:18.area. But it does mean we will have to have control of our borders, yes.

:32:19. > :32:21.So you will bring immigration from the EU down considerably, absolutely

:32:22. > :32:28.definitely and in short order? Guests. Use a short order, we will

:32:29. > :32:32.have to wait and see when we leave the European Union. Once article 50

:32:33. > :32:37.is served there is a maximum two-year process. It may be sooner

:32:38. > :32:43.than that. That will be part of the negotiations. Will article 50

:32:44. > :32:49.definitely be triggered before the election? Yes. So there will not be

:32:50. > :32:54.an early general election to catch the Labour Party with its trousers

:32:55. > :32:57.down? It is very difficult to have an early general election with the

:32:58. > :33:03.fixed term parliament sacked. There are county council elections and

:33:04. > :33:08.those are what I turning my attention to. It is very difficult

:33:09. > :33:12.to call an early general election. At the core of your role is the

:33:13. > :33:17.relationship between the party and the MPs. That has been a sense for

:33:18. > :33:21.quite a long time now that the party in the country has been looked down

:33:22. > :33:25.on and disregarded by the people at the top of the party and the old

:33:26. > :33:31.Etonian is at the top of the party. Issues like gay marriage which David

:33:32. > :33:35.Cameron keeps saying is his great legacy offended a lot of your

:33:36. > :33:40.ordinary party members. Is that era now over? Do we see a different

:33:41. > :33:44.relationship now? Governments always have to govern in the national

:33:45. > :33:48.interest. We will seek Theresa May governing in the national interest.

:33:49. > :33:55.Sometimes that will upset members of a political party. But first and

:33:56. > :33:57.foremost you have to put the national interest first. I came up

:33:58. > :34:02.through the Conservative Party. I owe my place around the Cabinet

:34:03. > :34:05.table to joining the Young Conservatives, becoming a national

:34:06. > :34:08.vice-chairman, a district councillor, a county council, we

:34:09. > :34:11.have thousands of people right across the country had tremendous

:34:12. > :34:16.effort into the Conservative Party. I want to thank them for the work

:34:17. > :34:24.they do and I want to encourage more people to join the party. 150,000

:34:25. > :34:28.new people more less, is tiny compared to the Labour Party. Do you

:34:29. > :34:34.want a younger, more working class member than you have had before? We

:34:35. > :34:38.have to see what will encourage people to join political parties. It

:34:39. > :34:44.has been something that people have felt disbarred from and I want to

:34:45. > :34:49.change that. If you join the Labour Party and you pay your ?25 or

:34:50. > :34:54.whatever, you can have a say in not just who is the party leader but

:34:55. > :34:58.party policy. If you join the Conservative Party, you do not get

:34:59. > :35:04.that kind of say. Why would people want to join? We have to look at

:35:05. > :35:10.what used to be called the CPC which was thread through policy. Is it

:35:11. > :35:16.more democratic? I think the party is incredibly democratic. They do

:35:17. > :35:20.not get a vote on policy. They would have got a vote in the leadership

:35:21. > :35:25.that it was stitched up at Westminster! It was not stitched up,

:35:26. > :35:31.it was decided at Westminster. When I look at the Labour Party, the idea

:35:32. > :35:34.you can have the leader of the parliamentary party who has no

:35:35. > :35:38.support on the backbenches is a new thing we are getting used to in

:35:39. > :35:41.British politics. Thank you for talking to us.

:35:42. > :35:43.Ever since his stunning debut in Good Will Hunting,

:35:44. > :35:45.Matt Damon's been one of Hollywood's top stars.

:35:46. > :35:46.Oscar-nominated last year for The Martian,

:35:47. > :35:48.he's back on the big screen this summer.

:35:49. > :35:51.The latest Jason Bourne thriller, an action film with some

:35:52. > :35:52.real political nuggets, opens in cinemas on Wednesday.

:35:53. > :35:55.When we met, Damon told me how director Paul Greengrass

:35:56. > :36:00.has imbued Bourne with real contemporary relevance.

:36:01. > :36:19.These movies work, I think, always if they feel like they're

:36:20. > :36:22.kind of pulled from the headlines, and each one is about the time

:36:23. > :36:28.The last one, the Bourne Ultimatum was very much about the war

:36:29. > :36:31.on terror, you know, the set pieces that we did,

:36:32. > :36:36.we did in New York and London and Madrid and that wasn't an accident.

:36:37. > :36:39.Those were obviously the three cities at the time that had been

:36:40. > :36:46.You don't say it explicitly but you kind of want

:36:47. > :36:49.it thematically kind of all in the stew.

:36:50. > :36:53.So, you know, we've got an austerity ride in Greece,

:36:54. > :36:55.where we have a big action set piece.

:36:56. > :36:59.So, you've got an action movie with a bit of a conscience.

:37:00. > :37:02.It's not that we're not finger wagging at anybody, I don't think,

:37:03. > :37:06.it's just that it should feel like it's of this world

:37:07. > :37:11.that we are all living in, but it should be highly entertaining.

:37:12. > :37:14.I mean that's its first order of business, it's

:37:15. > :37:31.People are safer because of what you did.

:37:32. > :37:34.You've said that the three first films were kind of about the Bush

:37:35. > :37:39.In this film, Tommy Lee Jones, the CIA guy, is kind of a hangover

:37:40. > :37:43.To what extent does this film reflect the change in American

:37:44. > :37:47.politics and society since the first ones?

:37:48. > :37:50.Well, it's got, you know, we've got Tommy Lee and Jason Bourne

:37:51. > :37:52.to a certain extent, they're kind of dinosaurs.

:37:53. > :38:02.Then we have Alicia Vikander playing this new, young,

:38:03. > :38:05.you know, she represents this new arena of cyber warfare that came

:38:06. > :38:08.later that these guys don't know as much about.

:38:09. > :38:10.Hopefully that's the fusion of new that we need.

:38:11. > :38:13.I guess the tough bit of this is that you have said,

:38:14. > :38:16.and a lot of people would agree with you, that America really has

:38:17. > :38:19.to rethink guns at the moment, particularly after what's gone on,

:38:20. > :38:22.and then they would say, hold on the second, this film

:38:23. > :38:26.So, is there an element of hypocrisy in that,

:38:27. > :38:30.First of all, what I said is we can't have a sensible

:38:31. > :38:32.conversation about it, which is true, because it's

:38:33. > :38:39.Even the idea of not allowing people on the watchlist...

:38:40. > :38:50.You know, we have to try to figure out a way to try to keep guns out

:38:51. > :38:53.of the hands of people like Adam Lanza, right,

:38:54. > :38:59.this guy in Sandy Hook, without infringing on people's

:39:00. > :39:07.Sandy Hook was horrific, and if that didn't do it,

:39:08. > :39:15.It is 20 years since Good Will Hunting now,

:39:16. > :39:19.and I read that at that moment you took a really bold personal

:39:20. > :39:21.decision to take yourself out of university,

:39:22. > :39:23.take yourself out of college, and go into acting.

:39:24. > :39:26.That's a heck of a jump to do at the time.

:39:27. > :39:30.I didn't drop out of college, I took an extended leave of absence,

:39:31. > :39:43.But I had a job so I got a movie that was going to be a huge smash

:39:44. > :39:49.hit called Geronimo: An American Legend,

:39:50. > :39:55.Obviously that was a huge bomb but it was a great experience.

:39:56. > :39:58.Ben also got a TV show at that time so that helped

:39:59. > :40:01.pay our rent and we were working on the screenplay.

:40:02. > :40:04.So we had money in the pocket, we were, you know, we weren't living

:40:05. > :40:10.You know, we were getting our work done.

:40:11. > :40:13.And of course that was a film partly about science and so forth.

:40:14. > :40:16.My favourite Matt Damon film, I have to say, is The Martian,

:40:17. > :40:24.But what's interesting about that is it's a different kind

:40:25. > :40:26.of hero because I guess to my kids' generation,

:40:27. > :40:29.the real heroes are not the guys running around with the guns,

:40:30. > :40:31.they're the scientists, they're the geeks.

:40:32. > :40:34.That movie says I'm going to science the hell out of this.

:40:35. > :40:35.It makes it a different kind of hero.

:40:36. > :40:41.Just tell me a little bit about working on that film.

:40:42. > :40:44.I mean, I'm ashamed to say how easy it was because of Ridley.

:40:45. > :40:47.We sat down in pre-production with the script and he walked me

:40:48. > :40:50.through every page, told me exactly what he was going to do.

:40:51. > :40:54.And over the next couple of months, that's exactly what he did.

:40:55. > :40:56.Six o'clock, the whistle blew, everyone went home,

:40:57. > :41:04.I mean it was like, it was just like working at a bank or something.

:41:05. > :41:06.It was like a routine that was incredible.

:41:07. > :41:10.And this is a man who's not in the first flush of youth.

:41:11. > :41:14.He is a young man at heart, I mean his soul is...

:41:15. > :41:19.He's got so much energy and passion for what he does.

:41:20. > :41:23.It's funny, it's like Clint, when I worked with Clint Eastwood.

:41:24. > :41:28.In his late 70s at the time as well, and the same thing, just charging

:41:29. > :41:31.out of bed in the morning, like ready to go and more energy

:41:32. > :41:37.You meet these guys who are just legends, they are masters

:41:38. > :41:42.at what they do, and it's that incredible combination of virtuosity

:41:43. > :41:49.You know, 40, 50 years of experience and still a passion for doing it,

:41:50. > :41:53.and it's just electric to be around, it's wonderful.

:41:54. > :41:58.Matt Damon, thanks very much for talking to us.

:41:59. > :42:00.Well, the Tories may have called off their leadership election

:42:01. > :42:03.but Labour's is now under way, and over the summer,

:42:04. > :42:06.Jeremy Corbyn will be going head-to-head with his challenger,

:42:07. > :42:09.Owen Smith, at hustings up and down the country.

:42:10. > :42:13.Today I'm joined by Mr Corbyn's key ally,

:42:14. > :42:14.the Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell.

:42:15. > :42:32.Looking at the polls, it seems overwhelmingly likely that Jeremy

:42:33. > :42:38.Corbyn will win. How do you rebuild relationships which have been badly

:42:39. > :42:45.damaged in the party? I do not trust any poll at all. This is not a

:42:46. > :42:48.foregone conclusion. We will have a proper democratic debate. It will be

:42:49. > :42:53.a political debate, not based on personalities. We will come to a

:42:54. > :42:57.democratic decision. I believe our members will expect the

:42:58. > :43:00.Parliamentary Labour Party, those in the parliament Labour Party are good

:43:01. > :43:05.people. They came into politics to try and change the world. During the

:43:06. > :43:09.leadership process, from the Shadow Cabinet, and we have also proposed,

:43:10. > :43:14.and this is one of Andy Burnham's proposals which we agree on, we

:43:15. > :43:23.should do some mediated negotiations between the parliamentary party and

:43:24. > :43:27.the NEC. We use the leadership discussion to discuss issues but

:43:28. > :43:31.also to heal some wounds. Do you think Tremor Corbyn has made some

:43:32. > :43:38.mistakes and after this process you will have to do things differently

:43:39. > :43:42.-- do you think you and Jeremy Corbyn have made some mistakes? We

:43:43. > :43:46.have made some mistakes. We will say, tell us where we have gone

:43:47. > :43:50.wrong, where do you think collectively we could be better? On

:43:51. > :43:54.that basis, I think we could go forward. The vast bulk of the Labour

:43:55. > :44:01.Party just want to get on with the job. This country is facing real

:44:02. > :44:06.challenges now. Day after day there are terrible stories of inside the

:44:07. > :44:09.Labour Party. A former close colleague of yours, Seema Malhotra,

:44:10. > :44:16.has had her office broken into she feels by either a member of your

:44:17. > :44:21.staff or Jeremy Corbyn's staff, what is going on? Seema is a friend. I

:44:22. > :44:27.asked Jeremy to appoint her. I find this really distressing. Seema

:44:28. > :44:32.resigned unfortunately a month ago. A month later, we thought she had

:44:33. > :44:35.moved out of her office. My office manager who manages the whole

:44:36. > :44:40.Treasury team offices and staffing and has a key to all our rooms, went

:44:41. > :44:43.along, saw boxes outside of her office, thought she had moved,

:44:44. > :44:47.knocked on the door, never heard anything and went in. Then went back

:44:48. > :44:52.the next morning and did the same thing. Members of Seema's staff were

:44:53. > :45:12.there, she apologised and that was it. Let me

:45:13. > :45:17.just finished this, I have now got a member of staff, and I will describe

:45:18. > :45:19.her to you. She is a widower with daughters. This is her sole income.

:45:20. > :45:22.This is the woman who went in? Yes. She is now worried she will lose her

:45:23. > :45:25.job and face prosecution because it has been scribed as a break-in. I

:45:26. > :45:28.did not even know from Seema. I got a copy of an e-mail late on Friday

:45:29. > :45:33.night. Then my office contacted her and said this is obviously an error.

:45:34. > :45:40.We thought she had moved out. The boxes were outside. She said her

:45:41. > :45:44.staff felt upset, distressed, harassed, insecure. Her staff

:45:45. > :45:48.invited my office manager out for a meal and drinks this week. One of

:45:49. > :45:55.them, and in turn, brought her parents to meet her. So what is

:45:56. > :46:00.going on? I don't know. Given that has been distress on besides, do you

:46:01. > :46:06.think you should apologise to Seema Malhotra? My office manager already

:46:07. > :46:14.apologised. She apologised to the staff. We have got to stop this. Am

:46:15. > :46:16.I on this camera? Let me just say to Labour Party supporters, Labour

:46:17. > :46:21.members, members of the Parliamentary Labour Party, we have

:46:22. > :46:25.got to stop this now. There is a small group out there who are

:46:26. > :46:30.willing to destroy our party, just to remove Jeremy Corbyn. We have got

:46:31. > :46:34.to stop them. We have got to unite. If you want to come for me and

:46:35. > :46:39.Jeremy Corbyn, that is up to you, but don't pick on staff who cannot

:46:40. > :46:45.defend themselves. Save Labour were talking about splitting the party. I

:46:46. > :46:52.want to stop this now. Can I join in on this? I'm sorry, this is so

:46:53. > :46:56.serious. You are suggesting this is all the other side. 44 female MPs

:46:57. > :47:00.have written saying they have been treated badly. This is a very

:47:01. > :47:05.serious thing and it cannot all be their fault.

:47:06. > :47:12.What we are saying is, if there is intimidation, we have got to stop

:47:13. > :47:18.it. Jeremy Corbyn has denounced any form of abuse, brought in procedures

:47:19. > :47:24.to tackle that. Anyone perpetrating abuse should be kicked out of the

:47:25. > :47:28.party. A very important policy was announced by Jeremy Corbyn this

:47:29. > :47:32.week, about Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies, and he

:47:33. > :47:36.said that no longer should drug research be farmed out to them, it

:47:37. > :47:41.should be done by the medical research Council in the NHS. Can you

:47:42. > :47:50.explain more about how this will work? It was arguing that research

:47:51. > :47:53.in this country should be better managed and more effective, so when

:47:54. > :47:58.it came to pharmaceutical research it should be better managed and

:47:59. > :48:01.better supported, in fact we should be increasing our resources. I have

:48:02. > :48:13.been running an exercise in looking at tax reliefs, in fact Seema was

:48:14. > :48:16.involved in it. We are following advice saying these tax relief at

:48:17. > :48:20.not being used effectively and should be used more effectively to

:48:21. > :48:24.increase levels of research, and that will be done within the NHS and

:48:25. > :48:30.by pharmaceutical companies. He said, medical research shouldn't be

:48:31. > :48:33.farmed out to big pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer and others but

:48:34. > :48:37.should be funded through the medical research Council as a way of

:48:38. > :48:45.developing these drugs. I put it to you, that is an impossible thing to

:48:46. > :48:51.do financially. You interpret it as money being taken away from the

:48:52. > :48:57.companies but it is not. It is money that is better used. The medical

:48:58. > :49:00.research Council have a budget of less than ?1 billion, it brings more

:49:01. > :49:07.than that to bring one dropped market. He wants to look at how that

:49:08. > :49:13.money is managed, and that will mean private companies... So he misspoke?

:49:14. > :49:18.No, he has been misinterpreted. We are looking at every aspect of

:49:19. > :49:23.research not just in pharmaceuticals but right across the piece. We

:49:24. > :49:25.discover even the Treasury does not assess half of the reliefs

:49:26. > :49:32.effectively so we want to manage that money better to get more

:49:33. > :49:37.scientific research. Tax relief is a big issue but in terms of the

:49:38. > :49:40.pharmaceutical industry it is about ?200 million that goes in, nothing

:49:41. > :49:46.like enough to fund the medical research Council to do their job

:49:47. > :49:50.properly. Of course, and you want to increase that and make it more

:49:51. > :49:55.effective but it has to be managed better and that is a way in which

:49:56. > :50:00.you ensure the resource goes into development effectively. You have

:50:01. > :50:05.said in the past you would like to take these companies into public

:50:06. > :50:08.ownership, and I have a quote, you were talking to the Alliance for

:50:09. > :50:14.workers Liberty, and you said let's look at certain sectors, see whether

:50:15. > :50:21.we should be pursuing a policy of public ownership. Management by

:50:22. > :50:24.directly elected representatives of local communities. I would use the

:50:25. > :50:30.example of the pharmaceutical industry, you said. I have always

:50:31. > :50:33.argued I would like to see a public stake in the pharmaceutical

:50:34. > :50:38.industry, in that way we could bring down the price of drugs. In terms of

:50:39. > :50:47.worker control and involvement, I'm pleased may-macro has come out in

:50:48. > :50:54.favour of putting workers on the boards -- Theresa May. In the end

:50:55. > :50:56.there are two kinds of socialism, the Parliamentary Road which

:50:57. > :51:01.basically says capitalism is a fantastically powerful and energetic

:51:02. > :51:05.thing, we milked it for taxes but we support it, then there is the other

:51:06. > :51:10.system which says capitalism in the end is evil and we have to overthrow

:51:11. > :51:16.it and replace it by a socialist economy. I put it to you that you

:51:17. > :51:19.are in second category. If you look at the history of the Labour Party,

:51:20. > :51:25.it is about having an economy which is in the interests of everyone.

:51:26. > :51:28.That is a combination of some services provided by the public

:51:29. > :51:33.sector and some provided by the private sector. You have to get the

:51:34. > :51:37.right mix so that it is democratically controlled. In the

:51:38. > :51:41.same interview you said your main political influences were Marx,

:51:42. > :51:47.Lenin and Trotsky. What have you learned from Lenin and Trotsky? I

:51:48. > :51:51.have learned what a mistake in bureaucracy can do and how you have

:51:52. > :51:55.to control bureaucracy democratically, and that the

:51:56. > :51:59.analysis and the failures of some of those systems. You look at the

:52:00. > :52:04.history of socialism in this country, it draws upon a vast range

:52:05. > :52:12.of philosophers and idiotic and I'm in the mainstream of that. You are

:52:13. > :52:18.well on the left, the quasi Trotskyists. If you look at where I

:52:19. > :52:28.came from, even Harold Wilson... Aptly was not a trot. You said you

:52:29. > :52:31.regard the Labour Party as a vehicle to leave when it is no longer

:52:32. > :52:42.useful, isn't that why people say you are part of the famous entry at

:52:43. > :52:47.strategy. I have never said that. Someone asked if it was a religion,

:52:48. > :52:54.I said no, it was a vehicle will use to achieve socialism. In March, you

:52:55. > :52:58.said, I'm not in the Labour Party because I'm a believer in the Labour

:52:59. > :53:04.Party has some supreme body or something God-given or anything like

:53:05. > :53:13.that, it's a tactic, simple as that. If it's no longer useful move on. I

:53:14. > :53:17.was trying to argue... So that is a fair point? I was arguing that the

:53:18. > :53:21.Labour Party is it now stands, if we need to reform it we should, and

:53:22. > :53:24.basically my argument is we rebuilt the Labour Party as a social

:53:25. > :53:31.movement and that's what we are doing. Half a million members

:53:32. > :53:37.campaigning. In that way you transform society. But because you

:53:38. > :53:41.say, if it is no longer useful vehicle move on, that's why Angela

:53:42. > :53:47.Smith says it is quite clear from the comments he is following broadly

:53:48. > :53:53.Trotskyist agenda which is incompatible... Organisations like

:53:54. > :53:59.Alliance for liberty, which I know well, I sold the newspaper a long

:54:00. > :54:05.time ago. I have just spoken to the chrysalis socialist movement, I

:54:06. > :54:10.appear on platforms and argue the case. But they are Trotskyist

:54:11. > :54:13.organisation and they are telling their members to flood into the

:54:14. > :54:22.Labour Party, so are many other far left groups. And any of them will be

:54:23. > :54:27.vetted. Do you welcome them? If we can convert people to the Labour

:54:28. > :54:31.Party, so much the better, but if they are coming with an entry is

:54:32. > :54:36.tactic, we have a voting system which is extremely strict and it is

:54:37. > :54:41.operating now. Assuming you win, you will be left innocent in the same

:54:42. > :54:44.position where you have a leader supported by hundreds of thousands

:54:45. > :54:48.of ordinary party members because of his values and what he stands for

:54:49. > :54:51.and a large number of MPs who completely disagree with him and

:54:52. > :54:56.don't trust him and don't want to serve under him, and you have to

:54:57. > :55:00.reconcile that. If you were one of the people who went to Jeremy Corbyn

:55:01. > :55:03.valleys and really want to change society and believe you are the

:55:04. > :55:09.people to do it, don't you have to do something about MPs? Why should

:55:10. > :55:13.they have MPs in their constituencies who don't support

:55:14. > :55:18.what Jeremy Corbyn stands for? The vast bulk of the Parliamentary

:55:19. > :55:24.Labour Party just want to get on-the-job -- on with the job. They

:55:25. > :55:29.will respect the mandate, whoever is leader, and I will as well. People

:55:30. > :55:35.will work together. Why? Because we are faced with severe problems in

:55:36. > :55:40.our society created by the Tory government. We will oppose them and

:55:41. > :55:44.win the next election. That is the responsibility that every member of

:55:45. > :55:48.the party bears. Your critics think you cannot win that election. If

:55:49. > :55:56.they are proved right, will both of you resign? That would be

:55:57. > :56:02.inevitable, wouldn't it? Let's look at our electoral practice so far.

:56:03. > :56:07.Won every by-election, increased our majority, all of the electoral

:56:08. > :56:10.practice so far we have been successful on, that's why I cannot

:56:11. > :56:14.understand some of the criticisms levelled against Jeremy.

:56:15. > :56:19.Now over to Tina for the news headlines.

:56:20. > :56:21.The Cabinet minister Patrick McLoughlin has told this

:56:22. > :56:23.programme it was 'absolutely unacceptable' that holiday-makers

:56:24. > :56:25.had been 'left in the lurch', waiting in tailbacks several miles

:56:26. > :56:31.Hundreds of people were forced to spend the night in their cars,

:56:32. > :56:33.because of a backlog caused by heightened security checks

:56:34. > :56:36.This morning, people are being told to expect delays

:56:37. > :56:48.The Shadow Chancellor has appealed directly of members of the Labour

:56:49. > :56:53.Party to end their feuding. He said, we have got to stop this now. He was

:56:54. > :56:57.speaking after Seema Malhotra complained her House of Commons

:56:58. > :57:02.office had been entered by a member of John McDonnell's staff without

:57:03. > :57:03.permission. John McDonnell said there had been a mistake, and he

:57:04. > :57:07.thought the office had been vacated. Back to Andrew in a moment,

:57:08. > :57:09.but first a brief look at what's coming up on BBC One

:57:10. > :57:12.after this programme. On Sunday Morning Live: As Russia

:57:13. > :57:14.faces a complete ban for all its competitors

:57:15. > :57:17.in the Olympics, we ask - is cheating now an unavoidable part

:57:18. > :57:19.of the greatest sporting The Government has delayed

:57:20. > :57:22.its obesity strategy. Whose responsibility is it to stop

:57:23. > :57:24.expanding waistlines - And Michelle Williams,

:57:25. > :57:26.formerly of Destiny's Child, tells us why she wants to help

:57:27. > :57:29.President Obama when he leaves We're almost out of time for today

:57:30. > :57:36.and for this season. We'll be back on Sunday,

:57:37. > :57:47.4th September. Here to play us out,

:57:48. > :57:51.11 top notch cellists who'll be performing tomorrow

:57:52. > :57:52.at London's Cadogan Hall, I think we've found four

:57:53. > :00:12.incredible cooks. But now it's finals week,

:00:13. > :00:16.we turn up the heat.