:00:00. > :00:00.And we are back after a summer in which, let's be honest,
:00:07. > :00:10.Labour in turmoil, Scottish independence
:00:11. > :00:12.on the agenda again, and, of course, here in London,
:00:13. > :00:17.a new Prime Minister starting to grapple with Brexit.
:00:18. > :00:20.A bigger, more complex task than any of her predecessors has
:00:21. > :00:49.In her first major interview since becoming Prime Minister, Theresa May
:00:50. > :00:51.talks about that challenge and makes it crystal clear there will be no
:00:52. > :01:14.general election until 2020. # Bend over let me see you shake a
:01:15. > :01:18.tail feather Ed Balls knock-about moves used to infuriate David
:01:19. > :01:23.Cameron. Week after week in the House of Commons for that now he
:01:24. > :01:27.hopes they will delight a nation on study come dancing. Are you quite
:01:28. > :01:33.sure about this? Among our paper abuse as a woman who's made
:01:34. > :01:36.headlines over the summer. Shami Chakrabarti, she did a major review
:01:37. > :01:39.on anti-Semitism for Jeremy Corbyn and was offered a place in the House
:01:40. > :01:44.of Lords by the same gentleman. She will tell us about that as she joins
:01:45. > :01:48.the conservative commentator Iain Martin and the Financial Times's US
:01:49. > :01:57.managing editor Gillian Tett to review the news in the papers and
:01:58. > :02:00.beyond. Or that plus Cillian Murphy from Peaky Blinders on his new
:02:01. > :02:09.thriller and playing a side, the godfathers of America, the Joe
:02:10. > :02:20.Kovacs. # Hey now... Tell me if there's something I should say... #
:02:21. > :02:21.Finding quiet corners in the air. But first, the news with Christian
:02:22. > :02:25.Fraser. Andrew, thank you very much. In the last few hours, Theresa May
:02:26. > :02:28.and Barack Obama have pledged the special relationship
:02:29. > :02:30.between the UK and the US will continue, despite Britain's
:02:31. > :02:32.decision to leave the EU. Standing side by side at the G20
:02:33. > :02:35.summit in China, the leaders But the Prime Minister has warned
:02:36. > :02:39.Britain should be prepared for tough times ahead in the wake
:02:40. > :02:42.of the Brexit vote. Our Diplomatic Correspondent James
:02:43. > :02:53.Landale is at the conference The first major summit for the Prime
:02:54. > :02:59.Minister. What are the things you have picked out? The Prime Minister
:03:00. > :03:03.came here and introduced herself to world leaders to try to reassure
:03:04. > :03:06.them that, despite Brexit, but it opened the business, it can be a
:03:07. > :03:09.dependable partner in the global stage. What we've seen this morning
:03:10. > :03:14.is an illustration of just how hard that could be. She met Barack Obama
:03:15. > :03:19.and he was pretty blunt and spoke of the turbulence which is followed
:03:20. > :03:23.Brexit, the potential adverse effects to UK US trade relations and
:03:24. > :03:28.made it very, very clear that when it came to trade deals, the USA
:03:29. > :03:31.would put a priority on the EU specific countries ahead of any deal
:03:32. > :03:36.with the UK, so not surprisingly, Theresa May made it clear both
:03:37. > :03:40.countries had to keep talking. The UK has always been a strong partner
:03:41. > :03:43.for the USA and that will remain the case. We have a thriving economic
:03:44. > :03:49.relationship, British businesses export twice as much to the USA than
:03:50. > :03:53.we do to the next largest market and the USA is the largest inward
:03:54. > :03:57.investor in Britain with total American investments providing more
:03:58. > :04:00.than 1 million jobs. We need to build on that strong foundation as
:04:01. > :04:06.the UK leaves the EU. We are both strong supporters of free trade and
:04:07. > :04:09.today we have discussed how to take forward consultations to ensure that
:04:10. > :04:14.the UK and the USA have the strongest possible trading
:04:15. > :04:20.relationship. In the meantime, tensions with a Chinese continue.
:04:21. > :04:24.The prime ministers will meet Li Keqiang and also the row over the
:04:25. > :04:28.delayed Hinkley point nuclear power plant for the Chinese want to invest
:04:29. > :04:30.billions into that and the whole thing is being delayed on the
:04:31. > :04:34.grounds they think of cost and security concerns but on the plane
:04:35. > :04:38.on the way over, she was asked if she trusted the Chinese and said
:04:39. > :04:41.simply, well, of course we have a relationship with them and we want
:04:42. > :04:45.to build on that relationship. We also want to build on other
:04:46. > :04:49.relationships, too, so a totally different tone to the previous
:04:50. > :04:52.government. OK, James, for the moment, thank you very much. James
:04:53. > :04:55.Landale there in Hangzhou. Enough local authority places
:04:56. > :04:57.to resettle 20,000 Syrian refugees The Home Secretary Amber Rudd said
:04:58. > :05:02.Britain was on track to deliver the promise made by David Cameron
:05:03. > :05:05.to find homes for the refugees A total of ?10 million has also been
:05:06. > :05:09.pledged for language tuition. Half a million people are expected
:05:10. > :05:13.to attend a service in Rome this morning when Mother Teresa will be
:05:14. > :05:15.made a saint. The nun, who devoted her life
:05:16. > :05:18.to helping the poor of India's She'll be canonised as Saint Teresa
:05:19. > :05:22.of Calcutta in a ceremony The special mass will be
:05:23. > :05:47.broadcast in the Indian city, The Sunday papers. The front pages,
:05:48. > :05:51.as usual. The Sunday Times, Theresa May flies into new Chinese security
:05:52. > :05:56.row. I will talk about that later with her. The Sunday express, the
:05:57. > :06:01.spies in Theresa May 's bedroom. The suggestion the Chinese have so many
:06:02. > :06:04.cameras in the bedrooms used by the incoming leaders, they will have to
:06:05. > :06:09.get undressed under the duvet to avoid exposing themselves to the
:06:10. > :06:15.gaze of all China. Keith Vaz, an important chair, one of the key
:06:16. > :06:19.select committees, he's been accused in a string of being involved with
:06:20. > :06:23.prostitutes and he has apparently resigned a taste for the time being
:06:24. > :06:26.from a job this morning. He's referred it to his lawyers but it is
:06:27. > :06:30.a huge story and I'm sure we'll talk a bit about that. Finally I think
:06:31. > :06:38.the most depressing headline of the Sunday Telegraph, modern life is
:06:39. > :06:42.killing children. It's all about cancer, and pollution but it seems
:06:43. > :06:46.pretty grim. I'm sure we could find more important things to talk about.
:06:47. > :06:51.Let's start off with a G20. A very important moment for the government
:06:52. > :06:55.and for Theresa May. It is, and she is back from a summer walking in the
:06:56. > :06:59.Swiss Alps. It's a very important moment because she's waited a long
:07:00. > :07:04.time for her debut on the international stage. It's the first
:07:05. > :07:11.summit after Brexit and you get a bit of an indication of how things
:07:12. > :07:15.might be different, that she's having bilaterals with the USA,
:07:16. > :07:22.China, Russia and India but no equivalent meetings with EU leaders,
:07:23. > :07:26.and that's an indication that which is foreign policy, she's looking in
:07:27. > :07:31.a different direction, she has to because of the vote. The big problem
:07:32. > :07:34.she has, the Hinkley point investment, because the Chinese are
:07:35. > :07:39.very keen on this and then building a new nuclear reactor from scratch
:07:40. > :07:42.at Bradwell. Her own private secretary Nick Timothy says he
:07:43. > :07:46.doesn't like the idea of a Communist country having eyes and ears inside
:07:47. > :07:50.our and existing system. It's extremely tricky but there something
:07:51. > :07:55.rather at report about this that she's at least taking her time and
:07:56. > :07:58.has not rushed into this. It's an indication of how her style will be
:07:59. > :08:04.quite different from David Cameron and George Osborne. You have more on
:08:05. > :08:08.this? The challenge she faces come on one hand they want trade
:08:09. > :08:12.relations with China and this is part of that whole reach towards the
:08:13. > :08:15.east but on the other hand, you have intelligence services warning
:08:16. > :08:19.repeatedly of the security issues. Today we have in the Sunday Mirror,
:08:20. > :08:23.the undercover Prime Minister talking about problems of the
:08:24. > :08:29.Chinese spying on the due 20 summit in Hangzhou. Sexy honey trap spies,
:08:30. > :08:33.G20 officials warned in the Sunday Telegraph, and there's the ability
:08:34. > :08:40.of the Chinese to essentially provide almost a new Cold War.
:08:41. > :08:44.Surely if you are Theresa May with her political background, one of the
:08:45. > :08:47.most successful long serving home secretaries, aren't you going to
:08:48. > :08:53.have an instinct to put security first? Even at times above trade in
:08:54. > :08:57.a calculation of this kind? If she says to the Chinese, we are pulling
:08:58. > :09:02.the plug on these nuclear power stations, that will be a humiliating
:09:03. > :09:05.moment for president Xi Jinping for them after all the work George
:09:06. > :09:10.Osborne was doing, getting to China and being nice to them for so long.
:09:11. > :09:15.I think she will be guided here by her understanding of what has turned
:09:16. > :09:21.to the intelligence sharing relationship. I think that will
:09:22. > :09:25.steer her towards Australia, the USA, Canada, and New Zealand.
:09:26. > :09:29.Obviously that comes with difficulties in terms of trade. She
:09:30. > :09:33.still wants to trade with China but her attitude to China will be very,
:09:34. > :09:38.very different than that of George Osborne particularly. The issue of
:09:39. > :09:44.cyber security is at the top of everybody's mind. It's not China
:09:45. > :09:49.only but of Russia as well, so it world. One of slightly odd moments,
:09:50. > :09:55.Shami, I did an interview with Theresa May and it appeared in the
:09:56. > :09:57.newspapers. She won't go for an election until 2020. Congratulations
:09:58. > :10:00.because this is the interview everybody is talking about today.
:10:01. > :10:05.She has said it would seem unequivocally armour we will watch
:10:06. > :10:12.it in a bit, there will be no snap election. It isn't a snap election
:10:13. > :10:16.if you say there will be one. Maybe, I don't know, circumstances could
:10:17. > :10:20.change in the future. With Brexit negotiations and so on. It's very
:10:21. > :10:28.much in her character as a politician to be stability first. A
:10:29. > :10:33.safe pair of hands. I'm not a showboat, she many times. I get on
:10:34. > :10:38.with the work. People are trusting in me at this moment. I will steady
:10:39. > :10:44.the ship. Even above personal interests. She is grappling with so
:10:45. > :10:47.much uncertainty right now and the business community is so worried
:10:48. > :10:52.about it. I think she's trying to indicate we will stay as we go, the
:10:53. > :10:55.one part of a timetable people to know about. They are very conscious
:10:56. > :11:01.of the parallel with what happened to Labour in 2007 and the mess.
:11:02. > :11:07.Gordon Brown addressing the nation. That was your game. Things went
:11:08. > :11:14.downhill for him after that. The mistake he made was to sacrifice and
:11:15. > :11:18.risk his strongest card. Theresa May's strongest card is she is a
:11:19. > :11:23.steadying the figure. You picked up a piece in the Observer suggesting
:11:24. > :11:28.she is not quite astonishing scenes. It's a great column talking about
:11:29. > :11:31.her vulnerabilities, and just reminding everyone really that every
:11:32. > :11:36.Prime Minister, almost every prime Mr, gets this honeymoon phase in
:11:37. > :11:40.which the polls look fantastic. The British are conditioned to giving
:11:41. > :11:44.new leader is a chance. -- Prime Minister. I think early on in a
:11:45. > :11:52.10-year, you very often see glimmers of what is going to do the men and I
:11:53. > :11:57.think if there is... He said gleefully. I think there is a
:11:58. > :12:03.tendency on the part of her and her team to a certain paranoia. That
:12:04. > :12:10.could turn into control freaks. To that end, it seems clear that they
:12:11. > :12:15.are attempting to run every single media request, interview, lunch
:12:16. > :12:19.request, which horrifies journalists, all being passed
:12:20. > :12:28.through number ten. The reality is, this is never ever going to work. If
:12:29. > :12:32.you want to be like the President Obama presidency. Every Gutmann
:12:33. > :12:37.tries to clamp down on lunches. The problem is this too many moving
:12:38. > :12:40.parts. Follow the ambitious people. You have been in the newspapers
:12:41. > :12:44.yourself, Shami, because you've accepted a seat in the House of
:12:45. > :12:54.Lords. Do you know what you're going to be yet? Shami Chakrabarti is
:12:55. > :13:00.still my name. You are a lady? The criticism is you did a job to Jeremy
:13:01. > :13:03.Corbyn looking at racism and anti-Semitism in the Labour Party
:13:04. > :13:06.and therefore, there was a perception of a clear
:13:07. > :13:10.conflict-of-interest. It's not been a summer of Love in the Labour Party
:13:11. > :13:16.or British politics, nor generally. Lots of blood has been slung about.
:13:17. > :13:20.It was transactional, etc. I wrote a whitewash? I did not. I know what
:13:21. > :13:23.it's like to be offered transactional favours by Prime
:13:24. > :13:29.Minister's. Not by Billy good leaders of the Labour Party. I wrote
:13:30. > :13:34.a report. Tell me more, but I don't think you will. I wrote a report to
:13:35. > :13:39.try to civilise the Labour Party and I get to completely succeed in that
:13:40. > :13:43.enterprise, but I stand by it. To be clear, you went off the period
:13:44. > :13:51.before you did the report? No. It was after the Brexit, after the
:13:52. > :13:58.report, as a resignation honours. Were there any discussions about
:13:59. > :14:02.going to the Lords before Brexit? Jeremy Corbyn is not a corrupt man
:14:03. > :14:06.and I am not a corrupt woman. Nothing remotely transactional about
:14:07. > :14:11.this. Another question is, why would you want to go to the House of Lords
:14:12. > :14:14.in the first place? You have a platform, national name, for the
:14:15. > :14:17.issues you care about, what it is about the House of Lords which is
:14:18. > :14:21.attractive? I thought there's lot which is an attractive about the
:14:22. > :14:24.House of Lords? It is our second legislative chamber and I feel our
:14:25. > :14:29.country is in probably the most difficult moments of my life time.
:14:30. > :14:32.And the lifetimes of lots of other people. If the second legislative
:14:33. > :14:36.chamber and there will be Brexit legislation going through that
:14:37. > :14:39.house, there will be issues about protecting people's rights and
:14:40. > :14:43.freedoms in this difficult moment. If I can do a little bit of
:14:44. > :14:48.something to help out, I will do my best. If I was Jeremy Corbyn,
:14:49. > :14:51.unlikely thought, I would say, Shami Chakrabarti, coming to the Shadow
:14:52. > :14:55.Cabinet, maybe as Shadow Justice Secretary or something. I think he
:14:56. > :15:00.has got a leadership election to win before anything like that. OK. Do
:15:01. > :15:05.you think this has damaged your reputation at all? When people sling
:15:06. > :15:12.mud at you it is designed to damage your reputation but I haven't done
:15:13. > :15:15.anything really in my working life and I do my best to make a
:15:16. > :15:22.difference. Let's move on to somebody who has a grim morning,
:15:23. > :15:26.Keith Vaz across two front pages. This is some kind of sting operation
:15:27. > :15:30.for that we don't absolutely know if he has resigned from his position as
:15:31. > :15:34.chair the committee. That's what the Mail on Sunday said that we have no
:15:35. > :15:42.independent confirmation of that. Kallis first of all why this is
:15:43. > :15:46.important story. Theit is a clear public interest because of his role
:15:47. > :15:57.in terms of the home affairs Select Committee. The subjects have been
:15:58. > :16:03.directly... Class A drugs... If it is suggested or proved that he has
:16:04. > :16:06.voted in a particular way that is in line with interests, that will be a
:16:07. > :16:14.problem. It's unclear whether he has resigned or not. I can see it's
:16:15. > :16:20.obviously very embarrassing and terrible for the family. He is a big
:16:21. > :16:24.public figure. It might be regarded by some people as distasteful but it
:16:25. > :16:29.certainly an old-fashioned Fleet Street operation, but the public
:16:30. > :16:36.interest defence is very clear in this case. And even the News of the
:16:37. > :16:40.World may get involved. Let's move to a more cheerful political story,
:16:41. > :16:50.it brought a smile to everybody's faces if not Ed Balls's wife, Yvette
:16:51. > :16:57.Cooper. A happy story, Ed Balls, Strictly Ed Balls. Wearing an
:16:58. > :17:03.amazing shirt! And moving on with his career, possibly reaching more
:17:04. > :17:07.people, new audiences than he has ever done before. He also has a book
:17:08. > :17:13.out, I know you will be talking to him. It's rather a good book. Maybe
:17:14. > :17:19.some people will watch Strictly and then read his book. Politicians seem
:17:20. > :17:23.to get blown at the system younger and younger, Ed Balls is a
:17:24. > :17:28.relatively young guy, he has made a lot of mistakes as the book shows
:17:29. > :17:33.but he has experience will stop want if he will come back into politics.
:17:34. > :17:40.We a which celebrates reinvention and learning from your mistakes and
:17:41. > :17:43.having a second chance? -- are we a culture which celebrates. It would
:17:44. > :17:50.be nice to see that changing, because we need some grey hairs,
:17:51. > :17:59.people with experience. Like us! Intensive vertical stories with a
:18:00. > :18:09.private aspects, Nicola Sturgess has given an interview... Sturgeon. Here
:18:10. > :18:13.is the true story. She cuts the core of the big issue which is that we
:18:14. > :18:16.have more women than ever before on the political stage globally and the
:18:17. > :18:21.question of how they handle the motherhood issue, their personal
:18:22. > :18:24.life, is critical post she has bravely come out and admitted she
:18:25. > :18:28.had a miscarriage a few years ago, she is not childless by choice,
:18:29. > :18:33.that's not only very useful in terms of opening the debate on this very
:18:34. > :18:37.painful issue that affects so many women but also raises the question
:18:38. > :18:40.of, if she had been a man who had to admit that he wanted children and
:18:41. > :18:45.wasn't able to, would he have at the same issues in public life? I
:18:46. > :18:49.suspect not. I salute her doing this and it shows she has the ability to
:18:50. > :18:57.both show leadership and connect with people. A very difficult time
:18:58. > :19:01.for her, I it happened a declaration in Ibrox, it could not have been
:19:02. > :19:05.more public and painful. Whatever your politics, you can't help but
:19:06. > :19:10.admire her as a role model... I've been on the debt should be inspired.
:19:11. > :19:20.-- a female leader. That great A number of Church of England clergy
:19:21. > :19:23.in same-sex marriages have called on bishops to do more to include gay
:19:24. > :19:27.people in the life of the Church. It comes just days after
:19:28. > :19:50.Bishop Nicholas Chamberlain said I think it had an impact beyond the
:19:51. > :19:57.tri- world of the city. It had an enormous cultural impact... How we
:19:58. > :20:03.value success, how we measure success, how we value the
:20:04. > :20:08.connection, people took the money and ran, I think it was a very
:20:09. > :20:11.significant cultural moment. You are going to join me later on, Shami
:20:12. > :20:15.Chakrabarti, but so to the weather. Over the past couple of days,
:20:16. > :20:18.it's as if a huge, stubby, divine finger has pressed
:20:19. > :20:20.the button marked autumn. So, as we start to enjoy cooler
:20:21. > :20:22.nights, are they here to stay or might there be
:20:23. > :20:36.an Indian Summer ahead? A bit early for an Indian summer but
:20:37. > :20:41.some significant changes on the way next week. Today it's been a lovely
:20:42. > :20:46.colour. To and on the whole, a better day, some sunshine around. A
:20:47. > :20:53.few showers, most of them very light and a lot of places will still be
:20:54. > :20:58.dry. Later on we could see Saint Dundry showers, slow-moving, crossed
:20:59. > :21:01.the northern half of Scotland. -- some thundery showers. A dry day
:21:02. > :21:10.then yesterday, the sunshine very hazy across the South and the
:21:11. > :21:14.south-west of Wales. From eastern areas out of the West will see rain
:21:15. > :21:18.coming in, this athletic influence continuing, a lot of cloud overnight
:21:19. > :21:22.so it shouldn't get too chilly. If you are hoping for rain in the
:21:23. > :21:30.eastern areas, you will probably not going to get it, this rain doesn't
:21:31. > :21:34.go very far. A bit of health, a lot cloud tomorrow, precious little
:21:35. > :21:41.sunshine but quite warm and muggy air we are getting so temperatures
:21:42. > :21:45.about 20. We change our wind direction next week, coming in from
:21:46. > :21:48.the continent, picking up the cloud, more sunshine, temperatures into the
:21:49. > :21:53.mid-20s, summer is set to return! When you watch Ed Balls,
:21:54. > :21:55.former Labour cabinet minister, strutting his stuff on Strictly,
:21:56. > :21:57.you either think, The man's got a sense of humour",
:21:58. > :22:01.or you think his mid-life crisis is At any rate, he's also written
:22:02. > :22:06.a really interesting book Shock and trauma is what your wife
:22:07. > :22:22.Yvette Cooper said. I hope it's not veering out of
:22:23. > :22:25.control but it was pretty traumatic watching that. I'm not sure if I was
:22:26. > :22:32.more traumatised by my dad moves, which looked more dad like than I
:22:33. > :22:36.expected all the pictures of me with all the sparkling celebrities, me
:22:37. > :22:43.looking at the guy who was going to serve them the drinks in a bow tie!
:22:44. > :22:48.You are more formally dressed than the rest but you're slimmed down
:22:49. > :22:52.dramatically. I'm expecting to slim down dramatically over the next few
:22:53. > :22:56.weeks. I could have decided to spend the next month and a half slimming
:22:57. > :23:00.and practising but that wouldn't be considered with the spirit of the
:23:01. > :23:03.show, you have to go in as you, which for me if slightly overweight
:23:04. > :23:10.and with no dancing ability at all and I'm hoping that Katya my partner
:23:11. > :23:19.will wreak a translation. My editor really wanted the ask, can you
:23:20. > :23:24.dance? I can line dance, with pensioners! I did once when I was
:23:25. > :23:27.20. I can sort of jive but it turns that they think it means wiggling
:23:28. > :23:35.your legs and I can't do that bit. My hips don't move in the way you
:23:36. > :23:40.need to for letting. Lots to learn. Maybe I will emerge from a chrysalis
:23:41. > :23:48.or it may turn out I was a slug all along! I am trying to get that image
:23:49. > :23:51.out of my head! The serious point is once you have been on one of these
:23:52. > :23:58.shows, it sticks in peoples minds and they can't not see it. I think
:23:59. > :24:01.of George Galloway in his green catsuit... I will never forget you
:24:02. > :24:07.in your leathers and chains dancing on a Friday night a few years back.
:24:08. > :24:11.I thought that might come back! This is something that is not easy to do
:24:12. > :24:15.as a serious politician and then go back into politics without being
:24:16. > :24:19.ripped forever. If I was trying to go back in the buttocks I don't
:24:20. > :24:24.think I would do something so far out of my comfort zone where clearly
:24:25. > :24:29.I get... It is good for people to see politicians are also human
:24:30. > :24:36.beings, they want to be back in politics, I would go back but I
:24:37. > :24:38.don't think I'm the answer. You have written an interesting book, which
:24:39. > :24:44.is very open about all sorts of things. The thing that interested me
:24:45. > :24:51.most is you give a long list of mistakes that you and others have
:24:52. > :24:54.made, about Brexit, all sorts of the political decisions and you ask the
:24:55. > :24:58.question, how could politicians avoid making so many mistakes? Is it
:24:59. > :25:05.because you always just talking between a small group of people and
:25:06. > :25:09.the UI in a consensual bubble? I read the book to my 27-year-old self
:25:10. > :25:14.to say, if you're preparing for politics, these are things to take
:25:15. > :25:17.on board. I also was writing my mother-in-law to say, this is why we
:25:18. > :25:24.do all this crazy stuff. The answer is, there is something which turns
:25:25. > :25:27.out to be a mistake but other things where you can see the mystic is
:25:28. > :25:31.happening and it takes leadership and strength to step in and solve
:25:32. > :25:35.it, and sometimes in politics that doesn't happen. I think Theresa May
:25:36. > :25:40.may be making a mistake at the moment, she has not defined her
:25:41. > :25:47.position on Brexit, she's allowing expectation of an early move on
:25:48. > :25:50.Article 50, she has Johnson, Box, Davis, in different directions, it
:25:51. > :25:54.feels like a car crash. I think she has to do it quickly, maybe she will
:25:55. > :25:57.in your interview but if the scripts for a month or two, it feels like
:25:58. > :26:04.one of those mistakes which need to be sold now rather than allowed to
:26:05. > :26:09.drift along. One of the things you say in the book is that cabinets are
:26:10. > :26:13.really boring, not much happens, a dreary time of the week. Is it that
:26:14. > :26:16.politicians could allow themselves to be challenged hard enough on
:26:17. > :26:22.their ideas when they are in the job? Honour to be in the Cabinet and
:26:23. > :26:29.you do feel you are in a privileged position around the table. There are
:26:30. > :26:32.moments of crisis where it is hugely important but often felt like the
:26:33. > :26:36.biggest issue of the day wasn't the thing being discussed on that
:26:37. > :26:40.agenda, that was happening outside of the Cabinet room. If you wanted
:26:41. > :26:45.to build a consensus or solve a problem, that tended to happen
:26:46. > :26:48.outside the meeting. It may be hard in modern politics to go through the
:26:49. > :26:52.hardest issues in a meeting but I think it's a good thing if you can
:26:53. > :26:57.have that discussion and in my experience, I am not sure that has
:26:58. > :27:04.happened in Cabinet government for a while. In the late 60s Wilson was
:27:05. > :27:07.having votes in his Cabinet... You are very tough on Jeremy Corbyn in
:27:08. > :27:12.this book and pretty tough on Ed Miliband as well. You put them
:27:13. > :27:15.together in one sentence as left-wingers who fought the Labour
:27:16. > :27:19.Party could win by being further and further to the left. Wasn't the
:27:20. > :27:21.great mistake from the point of view of people in your position, the
:27:22. > :27:25.three current membership and changing the rules to allow the
:27:26. > :27:31.Labour Party this huge new left-wing membership, that was on your watch
:27:32. > :27:37.and Ed Miliband's, and that has changed the Labour Party and in the
:27:38. > :27:40.view of some, destroyed it. The irony is that the pressure for a ?3
:27:41. > :27:47.mentorship wasn't coming from the left, it was coming from the right,
:27:48. > :27:50.supporters of Tony Blair thought those people would shift things
:27:51. > :27:55.towards the centre ground. And actually that reform was backed by
:27:56. > :28:00.people who supported Ed Miliband and David Miliband. In retrospect it was
:28:01. > :28:05.a catastrophic mistake. The level of unexpected consequences. Did you see
:28:06. > :28:08.it coming? I said to Ed Miliband I was worried about these changes but
:28:09. > :28:13.prices had gone on which people like me were not involved in, we were
:28:14. > :28:16.told this was necessary, I didn't foresee how bad it would be but a
:28:17. > :28:22.new enough about labour history to be worried and the outcome has been
:28:23. > :28:26.much worse than I expected. This has allowed lots and lots of blood to
:28:27. > :28:30.begin the poor who are idealistic, have a view about changing politics
:28:31. > :28:35.dramatically, to come in and play inside the system -- lots of young
:28:36. > :28:39.people. Jeremy has put in lots of new numbers, which is a good thing,
:28:40. > :28:43.but if the consequence was that Labour was winning the argument and
:28:44. > :28:48.was leading in the polls, I would have to praise it. But that isn't
:28:49. > :28:52.how things are turning out. And what I see is too many times, when people
:28:53. > :28:56.say this isn't working, we're not going to appeal the centre ground
:28:57. > :29:04.voters, what happens is you get attacked as a neoliberal or a Tory.
:29:05. > :29:07.I was in labour for 20 years, I'm not a Tory, I just don't agree with
:29:08. > :29:14.some of the things Jeremy Corbyn advocates. Let's play a thought
:29:15. > :29:17.experiment. Jeremy Corbyn wins again, wins big, stays as Labour
:29:18. > :29:21.leader, let's assume that you are someone you know is in the House of
:29:22. > :29:27.Commons still, how do you behave? You could say, it's over, he has won
:29:28. > :29:30.both the elections, it's time to end the feud, come back into the Shadow
:29:31. > :29:36.Cabinet couldn't fight it and try and make it work. Or sit on the
:29:37. > :29:41.backbenches and sulk for four years, wait to be deselected or try and set
:29:42. > :29:44.up a new party. Because there is the left, there was the Conservative
:29:45. > :29:49.Party, and a lot of people think there is a huge gap in the middle.
:29:50. > :29:52.The country is crying out for a serious opposition to take on
:29:53. > :29:57.Theresa May, there is no doubt about that. I am voting for Owen Smith
:29:58. > :29:59.individual election but the result will be the result, it has to be
:30:00. > :30:06.accepted. Would you say to Labour people in
:30:07. > :30:10.the House of Commons to come back into the Shadow copied it and make
:30:11. > :30:13.it work? It is clear there is a fundamental problem in the
:30:14. > :30:16.relationship between Jeremy Corbyn and the Parliamentary Labour Party.
:30:17. > :30:20.I think it's likely the Parliamentary Labour Party will want
:30:21. > :30:23.to have elections for the Shadow Cabinet but I absolutely think
:30:24. > :30:26.senior people need to stand for election and serve as part of the
:30:27. > :30:29.Labour opposition. The third option you rate was the idea of a split for
:30:30. > :30:34.that I think that would be a catastrophe for Labour. We have a
:30:35. > :30:46.long history, tradition, values. Whether it's about fighting a case
:30:47. > :30:48.in Europe, or as an individual politician, walking away from the
:30:49. > :30:51.table is never a good idea. You should stay and fight for what you
:30:52. > :30:53.believe in and it's really hard and we need a tough opposition and a
:30:54. > :30:56.good opposition. My colleagues need to stay in and do their bit to make
:30:57. > :30:59.sure at the next election, Labour can appeal to centre ground voters
:31:00. > :31:01.and say, trust us, not the Conservatives. Much more to talk
:31:02. > :31:03.about. For now, thank you very much indeed.
:31:04. > :31:06.The assassination of the SS leader Heydrich in 1942 shook Hitler's high
:31:07. > :31:08.command to its core and caused vicious Nazi reprisals
:31:09. > :31:12.Anthropoid, a film named after the Operation to kill
:31:13. > :31:15.The Butcher of Prague, opens this week.
:31:16. > :31:18.The star of Peaky Blinders, Cillian Murphy, plays a Czech
:31:19. > :31:22.soldier parachuted back into his occupied homeland.
:31:23. > :31:25.He soon finds that it's not just the Germans he's up
:31:26. > :31:55.How much did the Germans pay you for turning
:31:56. > :32:12.Czechoslovakia as it was at the time was occupied by the Third Reich.
:32:13. > :32:19.This was this very, very daring operation to assassinate Heydrick,
:32:20. > :32:28.who was the most senior Nazi ever to be assassinated.
:32:29. > :32:30.It's clearly a heroic story but you could argue
:32:31. > :32:34.it was a disaster really for all concerned because of the huge
:32:35. > :32:38.reprisal killings the Germans carried out and also the fact
:32:39. > :32:40.the Czech government showed the fighting spirit didn't matter
:32:41. > :32:42.because the Russians took over in due course.
:32:43. > :32:48.And I think those are the kinds of moral questions the characters
:32:49. > :32:50.are faced with and I think it's the moral questions
:32:51. > :32:53.every sort of resistance movement is faced with.
:32:54. > :32:57.What are the repercussions of what you're doing?
:32:58. > :33:00.That's quite interesting to play as an actor, because the last sort
:33:01. > :33:09.of act of this film, they are living with this guilt.
:33:10. > :33:12.They know Ledice has been wiped off the face of the earth.
:33:13. > :33:14.Innocent women and children have been killed.
:33:15. > :33:21.It's kind of fascinating to play that.
:33:22. > :33:24.They dont have the benefit of history to look back and realise
:33:25. > :33:27.arguably it changed the course of the Second World War.
:33:28. > :33:29.The moral dilemmas take you straight to Tommy Shelby and again,
:33:30. > :33:31.very interesting character because he so damaged
:33:32. > :33:36.One thing I've noted about the series is,
:33:37. > :33:38.as it goes on, women take control back hour by hour.
:33:39. > :33:40.It's very, very macho, all the violence and torture
:33:41. > :33:45.and bloodshed, but it's also mildly feminist in its underlying message.
:33:46. > :33:52.Helen McCrory's character as an example is
:33:53. > :33:58.She's definitely the only one Tommy really trusts, certainly
:33:59. > :34:11.Yet, in terms of the damaged men, I guess I'm kind of attracted
:34:12. > :34:14.to playing those kinds of characters but to me there is some sort
:34:15. > :34:17.of truth in that because these men historically were just spat back
:34:18. > :34:18.into society after the First World War.
:34:19. > :34:28.They were shellshocked, but it was something you just kind
:34:29. > :34:31.Everybody expressed it in a different way.
:34:32. > :34:42.Whoever it is up there he gave the wrong name.
:34:43. > :34:46.We asked him the name and he gave the wrong one.
:34:47. > :34:50.It's a fascinating foundation from which to take a character.
:34:51. > :34:58.It's quite a bold and experimental drama and has been hugely successful
:34:59. > :35:02.and it's recently been argued British TV and particularly
:35:03. > :35:04.the BBC has been a bit safe as television.
:35:05. > :35:09.I can only speak from my own experience.
:35:10. > :35:12.I think with Peaky Blinders, we have tried to compete
:35:13. > :35:17.with the great American shows and I think that,
:35:18. > :35:22.in terms of the production design and the quality of the actors,
:35:23. > :35:25.the quality of the writing, we certainly can compete.
:35:26. > :35:27.I think it's important that British television desk keep pushing
:35:28. > :35:31.the envelope a little bit for them it's great that this series has been
:35:32. > :35:38.You got to give things time to evolve and develop, you know,
:35:39. > :35:43.I think certainly if you look back at this series, I think the third
:35:44. > :35:47.compared to the first has been a big revolution and that taken bravery.
:35:48. > :35:48.Cillian, thanks very much for talking to us.
:35:49. > :35:59.Now, we'll hear from the Prime Minister in a moment but first,
:36:00. > :36:02.let's find out what's happening after this programme.
:36:03. > :36:09.Good morning. It's the biggest industrial action in NHS history but
:36:10. > :36:12.should doctors even have the right to go on strike? Amid calls for
:36:13. > :36:17.button to take on more migrants, will assess what our responsibility
:36:18. > :36:20.really is. And bestselling crime writer Val McDermott tells us about
:36:21. > :36:24.her dark side. Join us at ten o'clock. Self-deprecatingly, no
:36:25. > :36:29.mention at all odds to become dancing where she did really well.
:36:30. > :36:31.-- of Strictly Come Dancing. Theresa May is today at the G20
:36:32. > :36:34.in China hob-knobbing On Friday, however, she invited us
:36:35. > :36:37.to her Maidenhead constituency to give her first impressions
:36:38. > :36:39.of the task facing the Government as it
:36:40. > :36:41.unwinds its relationships I started by asking about that
:36:42. > :36:44.striking speech she gave outside Downing Street,
:36:45. > :36:46.when she first became Prime Minister promising to take action
:36:47. > :36:48.against burning injustices around Frankly, I wanted to
:36:49. > :37:00.know, did she mean it? Well, I want to see a country that
:37:01. > :37:03.works for everyone, Andrew, and that's what's going to be the
:37:04. > :37:08.driving force of my government and that is looking at, a society which
:37:09. > :37:12.works for everyone, an economy which works for everyone, looking across
:37:13. > :37:16.the border issues like schools, hospitals, and opportunities to
:37:17. > :37:19.ensure that people can actually get on and take those opportunities
:37:20. > :37:22.regardless of their background and it's about their talents and their
:37:23. > :37:27.willingness to work. In concrete terms, a lot of people on your side
:37:28. > :37:31.of politics who would say that, in terms of education, grammar schools
:37:32. > :37:34.are the way forward. You went to a grammar school and it became a
:37:35. > :37:37.comprehensive. Lots of people like you got to the top by going to
:37:38. > :37:41.grammar schools for them are you prepared to allow more grammar
:37:42. > :37:45.schools to open an existing rammer schools to expand? With schools I
:37:46. > :37:49.want to build on the success of the six years under David Cameron 's
:37:50. > :37:52.premiership when we have now seen more children in good and
:37:53. > :37:56.outstanding schools but there are still more to be done. There are
:37:57. > :37:58.still parents who feel their children are not getting the
:37:59. > :38:02.opportunities they want them to have because of what happens at the local
:38:03. > :38:04.school so I want to make sure that children have those opportunities,
:38:05. > :38:11.all schools offer a good education for children. Not quite an answer to
:38:12. > :38:14.my question about grammar schools, though. Justine Greening said you
:38:15. > :38:17.would look at these issues, which she is doing, so we will look at the
:38:18. > :38:23.work she's doing, but the abiding theme I want to ensure is there is
:38:24. > :38:26.that of giving opportunity to young people. Ensuring that whatever
:38:27. > :38:30.school anybody goes to, wherever they are, whatever part of the
:38:31. > :38:33.country, they are able to ensure they get a good quality of
:38:34. > :38:38.education, which gives them the opportunities to get on in life.
:38:39. > :38:41.Would you like to see at the end of the first Theresa May administration
:38:42. > :38:46.more grammar schools open than there are now? What I would like to see is
:38:47. > :38:50.ensuring an education system, regardless of where people are,
:38:51. > :38:54.regardless of the school they go to, ensuring they get the quality of
:38:55. > :38:57.education that enables them to take on those opportunities because when
:38:58. > :39:01.I talk about a country that works for everyone, it's about ensuring
:39:02. > :39:05.that whatever peoples talents, it's about how far those talents can take
:39:06. > :39:07.them but also about government ensuring that those jobs and
:39:08. > :39:11.opportunities are there for everybody and I think that there are
:39:12. > :39:16.sadly some people in the country who do feel that actually benefits of
:39:17. > :39:20.what's happened over the last few years have gone to other people and
:39:21. > :39:23.not to them. It's ensuring that it is that government and country that
:39:24. > :39:29.works for everyone. If you're going to operate on the basis of people at
:39:30. > :39:33.the bottom of the heap, why to water down the obesity strategy where
:39:34. > :39:36.there was a very, very carefully worked out complicated thought
:39:37. > :39:39.through strategy to help the problem of obesity which particularly
:39:40. > :39:44.affects poorer people and it was dismantled the last moment? What we
:39:45. > :39:49.have come forward is an obesity strategy which I think will work and
:39:50. > :39:53.will have an impact on people through the work we will be doing in
:39:54. > :39:58.terms of reductions of sugar and so forth. There is an issue here I
:39:59. > :40:05.think which is first of all, you say we want to help those at the bottom
:40:06. > :40:10.of society. But I also want to help, as I said on the steps of Downing
:40:11. > :40:14.Street, those people who are perhaps in work but for whom life is still a
:40:15. > :40:17.struggle. I think it's often those people who feel that they have been
:40:18. > :40:23.particularly left behind. If it's not to be more than warm words, you
:40:24. > :40:27.have to take on some of the big interests and did seem you sided
:40:28. > :40:31.with big food companies at the advertisers rather than the medical
:40:32. > :40:33.people and the lobbyists on the obesity issue. I've been clear and
:40:34. > :40:37.not afraid to take on the big interests. When I spoke in
:40:38. > :40:41.Birmingham at the start of what was going to be the national leadership
:40:42. > :40:45.campaign, of course things turned out a little differently, I spoke
:40:46. > :40:48.about the importance of actually dealing with irresponsible behaviour
:40:49. > :40:52.in companies, so, as you would have seen in my time as Home Secretary,
:40:53. > :40:57.I'm not afraid to take on big interests when I think it's the
:40:58. > :41:03.right thing to do. You've already mentioned Brexit. It means Brexit,
:41:04. > :41:06.you said, but what does Brexit mean? It's about coming out of the
:41:07. > :41:09.European Union at its simplest, listening to the British people, the
:41:10. > :41:13.only party now who is actually saying we are prepared to accept the
:41:14. > :41:17.vote that people gave and we have listened to people and we will now
:41:18. > :41:20.make a success of that. Obviously there was going to be a period of
:41:21. > :41:23.negotiations. What I'm very clear about particular and this is a
:41:24. > :41:30.message I will be taking to the G20 in China, is that this is not about
:41:31. > :41:34.the UK suddenly wanting to be inward looking. Actually, we will continue
:41:35. > :41:38.to be bold and outward looking, we want to forge new deals, be an
:41:39. > :41:43.independent Britain, forging our own way in the world. At Chequers, you
:41:44. > :41:47.made it clear, as far as you are concerned, part of Brexit is strict
:41:48. > :41:51.controls on immigration. Will your success as Home Secretary, if she's
:41:52. > :41:56.in the job in five years' time, be able, if she chooses, to say no
:41:57. > :42:00.immigration at all or only a dribble from the EU? What leaving the
:42:01. > :42:05.European Union does enable us to do is to say what I think the British
:42:06. > :42:09.people were very clear about, they don't want free movement continuing
:42:10. > :42:13.the way it has done in the past. They do want to see controls of
:42:14. > :42:17.movement of people coming in from the European Union but people also
:42:18. > :42:22.want to see the job opportunities, to see the economic opportunities,
:42:23. > :42:26.so getting a good deal in trade and goods and services, is also
:42:27. > :42:29.obviously important for us. This is the problem for them as Philip
:42:30. > :42:33.Hammond has said, it's very important to get access to European
:42:34. > :42:36.markets, particularly the banking sector, the finance sector but many
:42:37. > :42:40.others as well. You may have to do trades in terms of the amount of
:42:41. > :42:44.people you allow in from the EU, it may not quite be an end to free
:42:45. > :42:48.movement of people if you want full access to those markets? Are you
:42:49. > :42:52.prepared to do those trades? We need to take some time to prepare the
:42:53. > :42:58.position we want to take as the UK, that's why I said we won't trigger
:42:59. > :43:02.article 50, which starts the former negotiation process with the EU
:43:03. > :43:07.before the end of this year. So we are taking that time, David Davis is
:43:08. > :43:10.the Secretary of State. He will make a statement to Parliament this week
:43:11. > :43:14.about the work that the government has been doing over the summer. And
:43:15. > :43:22.how we will take that forward in shaping the sort of relationship we
:43:23. > :43:27.want with the EU. It's a matter of huge importance to people when
:43:28. > :43:32.Article 50 is triggered because the clock starts ticking. Next year,
:43:33. > :43:35.will it have been triggered by then? I don't think it should be triggered
:43:36. > :43:38.before the end of the air because we need to have a period of
:43:39. > :43:42.preparation. I think it's actually good for the European Union that
:43:43. > :43:46.they are also able to have that period of preparation so that when
:43:47. > :43:50.we start the process of negotiations, the process I think
:43:51. > :43:54.will be smoother and we can ensure that there is as little disruption
:43:55. > :43:58.as possible. But I'm very clear also that the British people don't wonder
:43:59. > :44:01.the issue of article 50 being triggered just being kicked into the
:44:02. > :44:06.long grass. Should we have access to the single European market? What I
:44:07. > :44:11.want to see is the best possible deal for the UK in trade, goods and
:44:12. > :44:16.services. I don't want to adopt a particular model and people use
:44:17. > :44:21.phrases about access to the market, about customs unions and so forth,
:44:22. > :44:24.but I prefer to look at it and say let's work out what the best deal
:44:25. > :44:27.for us would be in trade in goods and services and then let the
:44:28. > :44:31.ambitious and go out there and fight for it. As you head off to the G20
:44:32. > :44:35.20s, everybody wants to hear more about Brexit and how it's going but
:44:36. > :44:39.you leave with economic figures which could hardly be better,
:44:40. > :44:43.employment is right up, consumer confidence is very strong indeed and
:44:44. > :44:46.we had some excellent manufacturing index figures. That suggests all
:44:47. > :44:53.those people who said Brexit would put a bomb under the British
:44:54. > :44:59.economy, a DIY bomb, all of that was scaremongering? We have had some
:45:00. > :45:04.good figures and better figures than some had predicted would be the
:45:05. > :45:09.case. But what is important for us now is that we maintain that policy
:45:10. > :45:13.of ensuring economic stability and a strong economy for the future and
:45:14. > :45:15.part about is going to be, as we come out of the European Union,
:45:16. > :45:19.ensuring we have trade deals around the world. I want the UK to be a
:45:20. > :45:24.global leader in free trade and one of the things I will be doing at the
:45:25. > :45:27.20 is emphasising the role that we will be playing in the world but
:45:28. > :45:35.also in a number of discussions I will be having with President Obama,
:45:36. > :45:40.for example,... We will be talking about how we can start to scope out
:45:41. > :45:43.what is a trade deal and negotiations on trade deals and what
:45:44. > :45:44.they will be like so when the time comes to sign those deals, real do
:45:45. > :45:53.our best. All those warnings about a bomb
:45:54. > :45:57.under the British economy appeared to be completely wrong at the moment
:45:58. > :46:02.or do you think it's too early to tell and there are dangers ahead?
:46:03. > :46:05.I'm not going to pretend it's all going to be plain sailing, we must
:46:06. > :46:09.be prepared for the fact there may be difficult times ahead. But I'm
:46:10. > :46:13.optimistic. This was the message that came from the Cabinet when we
:46:14. > :46:18.were sitting around the table this week and talking about these things,
:46:19. > :46:21.it's the same message I've had from businesses, and optimism about the
:46:22. > :46:26.future, the opportunities that are now open to the UK. An independent
:46:27. > :46:31.Britain, forging her own way in the world. He used the word British but
:46:32. > :46:35.you also said soon after he became Prime Minister that they water this
:46:36. > :46:40.to be an all United Kingdom thing and you wanted the Scots to be happy
:46:41. > :46:44.and satisfied way things are going and the way negotiations were going
:46:45. > :46:53.before you triggered Article 50, is that still the case? What I've said
:46:54. > :46:56.to Nicola Sturgeon is I want them to be fully involved and engaged in
:46:57. > :47:00.discussions about the position the UK is going to take on the other
:47:01. > :47:06.devolved administrations as well. The people of the UK took a decision
:47:07. > :47:09.to leave the European Union. I want to make a success of it although I
:47:10. > :47:14.will say to the people in Scotland that I want to ensure that is a
:47:15. > :47:17.successful people in Scotland. What I'm trying to get to is Scotland has
:47:18. > :47:23.very different views about some of these issues, there as much as worry
:47:24. > :47:27.about immigration among Scots and certainly the Scottish Government.
:47:28. > :47:30.Will they have a proper input into that process, will she be
:47:31. > :47:36.influential in the Brexit negotiations? I want them and the
:47:37. > :47:42.other devolved over the stations to be engaged with this as we determine
:47:43. > :47:46.the position the UK takes. -- devolved ministrations. The people
:47:47. > :47:53.of the UK took a view that we should leave the EU, we should try and say,
:47:54. > :47:56.let's have a second vote... No second referendum. We could say, we
:47:57. > :48:01.wish it hadn't happened so we get to try and wish it away. What I'm
:48:02. > :48:05.saying, what the Conservative Party is saying, the only party saying
:48:06. > :48:09.this is, we respect the wishes of the British people. The British
:48:10. > :48:15.people want us to leave the European Union and that's what we will do. In
:48:16. > :48:18.Scotland there is a feeling that we in Scotland voted to stay, we didn't
:48:19. > :48:24.vote the same way as England and we would like to stay inside the EU.
:48:25. > :48:27.That in itself is triggering pressure for a second Scottish
:48:28. > :48:33.independence referendum. If that came about would you prevent the
:48:34. > :48:37.second referendum happening? I think it's a question of whether there
:48:38. > :48:44.should be, there was a vote in 2014... But there has been a
:48:45. > :48:48.maternal changed since then. There has been about the UK that it wants
:48:49. > :48:54.to come out of the European Union, Scotland wasn't the only part of the
:48:55. > :48:59.UK that voted overall to Remain, but the overall view of the UK and the
:49:00. > :49:04.public was to come out of the European Union. Some people might
:49:05. > :49:09.say, let's row back on that, find a way out of that, but a decision was
:49:10. > :49:13.taken, the job now is to get on with it. A lot of people watching and not
:49:14. > :49:16.only in Scotland want to know whether, if there are proposals for
:49:17. > :49:21.a second Scottish independence referendum quite soon, Theresa May
:49:22. > :49:25.as Prime Minister of the UK will say, I am not going to let that
:49:26. > :49:30.happen. I think it's whether question of whether there should be.
:49:31. > :49:33.If you look at some of the results now coming out of polling in
:49:34. > :49:39.Scotland, they suggest the Scottish people don't want a second
:49:40. > :49:41.referendum. Let me move on to the position of people living and
:49:42. > :49:47.working and contributing to this economy, there are millions of them,
:49:48. > :49:50.many of them watching, they are very worried about their own personal
:49:51. > :49:54.futures. Some of them are already going home, people in top jobs,
:49:55. > :49:59.universities, returning to the continent because they have not
:50:00. > :50:03.heard any reassuring words, particularly from you. Can you give
:50:04. > :50:08.them some reassurance now? As long as we're still in the EU, then the
:50:09. > :50:14.position of people born in other EU countries and living in the UK
:50:15. > :50:17.doesn't change. Their status remains the same stop I want to be able to
:50:18. > :50:21.guarantee their status for the future, I expect to be able to
:50:22. > :50:23.guarantee their status for the future but the only circumstances in
:50:24. > :50:28.which that wouldn't be possible would be if the status of British
:50:29. > :50:33.citizens living in other European Union countries was not guaranteed.
:50:34. > :50:38.Do you feel that could happen? It's important that we are clear that I
:50:39. > :50:41.expect the status of British citizens in other EU countries to be
:50:42. > :50:46.going to need as I expect to be able to guarantee the status of EU
:50:47. > :50:49.citizens living here. We've talked about a possible Scottish referendum
:50:50. > :50:54.and the timing of Article 50 and so on, then you're asking about the
:50:55. > :50:58.next general election. If you look at the polling, and a lot of people
:50:59. > :51:02.in your party are excited about this, if you went to the country
:51:03. > :51:07.now, you would get a huge majority, that seems a wonderful opportunity
:51:08. > :51:12.for you. Are you tempted to call a snap election? I think what's
:51:13. > :51:18.important, having had the referendum vote, is that we have a period of
:51:19. > :51:22.stability. There is a challenge ahead in ensuring that we make a
:51:23. > :51:25.success of coming out of the European Union and it's important we
:51:26. > :51:31.focus on that and the other reform agenda that I have for the country
:51:32. > :51:35.as we go forward. We will be continuing the manifesto on which
:51:36. > :51:38.the Conservative government was elected in 2015, so I don't think
:51:39. > :51:44.there is a need for an election, the next election will be Twenty20.
:51:45. > :51:51.Under current law, the next election will be then, no ifs, no buts, no
:51:52. > :51:56.snap election, is that absolutely certain, we're not going to see an
:51:57. > :51:59.election before then? I am not going to be calling a snap election, I
:52:00. > :52:03.have been clear that we need a period of time, that stability to
:52:04. > :52:11.deal with the issues the country is facing and have the election in the
:52:12. > :52:15.year 2020. You would be meeting the Chinese, if you full the plug on
:52:16. > :52:20.Hinckley committee will cause enormous offence and the personal
:52:21. > :52:24.humiliation for the Chinese president, are you going to do that?
:52:25. > :52:28.It's about how I approach these things, don't just come in and say,
:52:29. > :52:32.this is the decision I take my look at the evidence, take the advice,
:52:33. > :52:38.listen to that, that's what I am doing, there will be bit edition in
:52:39. > :52:43.September. One of your senior advisers Nick Timothy said he was
:52:44. > :52:45.worried about security in of the commonest country having its hands
:52:46. > :52:52.on the windpipe of our nuclear industry. -- communist country. They
:52:53. > :52:56.could close down our electricity supply, do you share those worries
:52:57. > :53:01.about China having a strategic plate at the centre of our nuclear
:53:02. > :53:05.industry? I am looking at this decision, across the board at the
:53:06. > :53:15.various aspects and looking at the various aspects... Then we will come
:53:16. > :53:21.to a view as a result of the work I'm doing, I said in September, and
:53:22. > :53:24.as Home Secretary in the past and Prime Minister now, national
:53:25. > :53:27.security is a key issue for us but in terms of that individual
:53:28. > :53:33.decision, I will be looking at all aspects and come to a decision in
:53:34. > :53:35.September. It would be something to have a communist country in control
:53:36. > :53:40.of our nuclear industry, they want to build their own station as well,
:53:41. > :53:44.this is a big strategic position. And yet if they are offended by the
:53:45. > :53:48.way we approach this, we are cutting off our noses and spiking with our
:53:49. > :53:52.really important partners in the future, post-Brexit. You're trying
:53:53. > :54:02.to get me to give an indication about my decision, which I'm not
:54:03. > :54:04.going to do. The way I work is to assemble the evidence, that
:54:05. > :54:05.carefully and then come to a decision and that's the process I am
:54:06. > :54:08.going through. Thank you. Well, after 17 minutes
:54:09. > :54:11.from our Tory PM, I'm rejoined by two people who,
:54:12. > :54:31.just about, remain Can the party reunite after the
:54:32. > :54:34.election? Absolutely full stop on one of hundreds of thousands of
:54:35. > :54:39.people who have joined the party in recent months and I've done that for
:54:40. > :54:43.a reason, because it's a great part with a great history and a great
:54:44. > :54:46.future and as Ed said in his interview, which I took some heart
:54:47. > :54:51.from, this country needs an opposition and a Labour government
:54:52. > :54:56.very soon. Do you both think there can be a conciliation period after
:54:57. > :54:59.the election, even if it's Jeremy Corbyn, you could come back into the
:55:00. > :55:05.Shadow Cabinet, work together, bury the hatchet? I hope so. It's too
:55:06. > :55:09.important to stop this isn't a private members club the dealing
:55:10. > :55:15.with grievances again and again. Let the membership have the election and
:55:16. > :55:19.let there be a healing. It's important to say, they don't support
:55:20. > :55:23.Jeremy Corbyn, doesn't make you a Tory or a neoliberal, it may be that
:55:24. > :55:28.we just disagree but what we had to agree on is the purpose. We are not
:55:29. > :55:32.a permanent party of opposition. We shouldn't feel good about the fact
:55:33. > :55:36.we agree with each other in a room of 1001 what matters is the voters
:55:37. > :55:41.at the ballot box, we have to be a party of government. It takes two to
:55:42. > :55:46.tango, we have got to be a proper opposition which wants to win power.
:55:47. > :55:50.In our earlier conversation I asked you whether you had a concession at
:55:51. > :55:53.that Jeremy Corbyn before you were asked to do the enquiry and use it,
:55:54. > :56:00.I am not corrupt and he is not corrupt, which I'm sure is true but
:56:01. > :56:03.it wasn't quite an answer. Let me give you the clearest answer I can.
:56:04. > :56:08.I joined the Labour Party because they wanted to be part of its
:56:09. > :56:11.future. I did my report into racism and anti-Semitism would no
:56:12. > :56:18.inducement, no office, no threats, no interference. Did you discuss the
:56:19. > :56:20.arrangement before? No, but he offered it to me knowing I am a
:56:21. > :56:24.Labour person and I want to help. Join me again at the earlier time
:56:25. > :56:30.of 8.30am next Sunday. For one week only, that's a half
:56:31. > :56:33.eight start here on BBC One Until then we leave
:56:34. > :56:36.you with the sound of The Jayhawks. According to Rolling Stone magazine,
:56:37. > :56:39."Long before Americana music had From their new album,
:56:40. > :56:44.Paging Mr Proust, here they are with Quiet
:56:45. > :56:50.Corners And Empty Spaces. # Aside the wandering
:56:51. > :56:57.eye has opened. # A stare all the way
:56:58. > :57:06.bare and broken. # The start of a brand
:57:07. > :57:15.new adventure. # Tell me if there's
:57:16. > :57:24.something I should say. # I'll find the quiet corners
:57:25. > :57:31.and the empty spaces. # Tell me if there's
:57:32. > :57:57.something I should say. # I'll find the quiet corners
:57:58. > :58:03.and the empty spaces. # In the end there's
:58:04. > :58:45.no way in redemption. # Tell me if there's
:58:46. > :58:55.something I should say. # I'll find the quiet corners
:58:56. > :59:03.and the empty spaces.