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:00:00. > :00:09.So, how are we going to make a success of Brexit?

:00:10. > :00:13.Well, according to one Cabinet minister this morning, we have

:00:14. > :00:17.to start by building new airports for, in the Transport Secretary's

:00:18. > :00:20.words, "a stronger, more confident, more ambitious Britain".

:00:21. > :00:42.Nice thought, but has he actually taken a decision yet?

:00:43. > :00:48.Chris Grayling is here to talk about Heathrow, Gatwick,

:00:49. > :00:50.the crisis-stricken high speed railway, and,

:00:51. > :00:52.of course, whether we're making on progress on leaving the EU.

:00:53. > :00:56.But will the Commons block Brexit in its tracks?

:00:57. > :00:58.Labour's Hilary Benn, now chairing the key

:00:59. > :01:04.That would infuriate Ukip, a party searching for a new leader.

:01:05. > :01:16.Does she want to be Britain's new Nigel Farage?

:01:17. > :01:21.I've also been speaking to the great Kenneth Branagh about

:01:22. > :01:22.playing the Entertainer, in John Osborne's modern classic

:01:23. > :01:29.When it comes to our paper review, I feel I'm in safe hands this

:01:30. > :01:31.morning, with Amanda Platell from the Daily Mail and David

:01:32. > :01:39.And here to play us out, the American folk singer and head

:01:40. > :01:43.of a musical dynasty, Loudon Wainwright III.

:01:44. > :01:52.# One-man guy, I'm a one-man guy # And that man is me

:01:53. > :01:57.#. And he is a legend, as well. All that after the news read this

:01:58. > :02:00.morning by Tina Daheley. French officials are making final

:02:01. > :02:02.preparations before they demolish the migrant camp in Calais known

:02:03. > :02:04.as the Jungle. 10,000 leaflets will be handed out,

:02:05. > :02:07.telling migrants they must start leaving tomorrow,

:02:08. > :02:10.when clearance work is due to begin. The migrants will be taken by bus

:02:11. > :02:13.to other parts of France. But charities working at the site

:02:14. > :02:16.have warned that many will refuse to go, because they still

:02:17. > :02:19.want to reach the UK. The doctors' union,

:02:20. > :02:23.the British Medical Association, says a 24-hour telephone hotline

:02:24. > :02:26.needs to be set up to help people The BMA says that thousands

:02:27. > :02:32.of people have been prescribed powerful drugs such

:02:33. > :02:35.as benzodiazepines for decades, although guidelines say the maximum

:02:36. > :02:38.should be four weeks. The organisation also wants clearer

:02:39. > :02:41.guidance for GPs on how The Prime Minister will host

:02:42. > :02:45.the leaders of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland tomorrow,

:02:46. > :02:47.to discuss Britain's Theresa May has called for a "grown

:02:48. > :02:53.up" relationship with the devolved administrations, while the Scottish

:02:54. > :02:57.government says it must be treated as an "equal partner"

:02:58. > :03:01.in negotiations with the EU. Turkey is demanding a role

:03:02. > :03:04.in the fight to drive so-called Islamic State militants

:03:05. > :03:06.from the Iraqi city of Mosul. But Iraq's Prime Minister has told

:03:07. > :03:09.the United States his country won't allow Turkey to have any role

:03:10. > :03:12.in the battle. On the ground, Iraq's

:03:13. > :03:14.military says it's stormed the town of Qarakosh,

:03:15. > :03:15.about 20 kilometres Researchers looking into the decline

:03:16. > :03:22.of hedgehogs say they still don't It's thought there were more

:03:23. > :03:28.than 36 million hedgehogs in the UK in the 1950s,

:03:29. > :03:31.compared to fewer The Mammal Society is asking people

:03:32. > :03:51.to take part in an online survey Not quite a picture of a hedgehog,

:03:52. > :03:55.but the next best thing, Boris Johnson as some kind of sea

:03:56. > :04:00.creature, emerging from the top of the Sunday Times. Most papers are

:04:01. > :04:13.leading with overseas stories including the great siege of Mosul.

:04:14. > :04:16.Sunday Telegraph going for the story about the migrants at Calais and the

:04:17. > :04:20.debates about whether children were really children and should their

:04:21. > :04:30.teeth rechecked. During the Britain, that is the headline. The Mail on

:04:31. > :04:36.Sunday has a story about the Tory Chief Whip smearing someone,

:04:37. > :04:40.although it doesn't tell you who. The Observer, leading banks are set

:04:41. > :04:46.to pull out of Brexit UK early next year. However, that is a lobbyist

:04:47. > :04:53.for banks who is creating that story. Where are we going to start?

:04:54. > :04:57.We are going to start with Amanda Platell and the front page of the

:04:58. > :05:02.Sunday Telegraph. We have a picture of these queues of men, some of them

:05:03. > :05:16.look like children, some don't, queueing up to get over to Britain.

:05:17. > :05:22.Ministers ignored offers for help from social service 's does, it has

:05:23. > :05:27.been a mess from start to finish. -- social services. They seem to have

:05:28. > :05:31.left the whole thing right to the very last. If you are interested in

:05:32. > :05:34.children, the allegation is that men are pushing themselves to the front

:05:35. > :05:43.of the queue and pushing children behind. Exactly. The whole point

:05:44. > :05:47.regarding the amendment which came in in April, they wanted

:05:48. > :05:52.unaccompanied minors and they have identified 200 of the most

:05:53. > :05:55.vulnerable in the jungle, and as of Thursday night not a single one was

:05:56. > :06:01.say, none of the girls have come over. -- not a single one was here.

:06:02. > :06:04.We were expecting children to be coming in with teddy bears, instead

:06:05. > :06:11.we have too many strapping young men. The girls are coming. They did

:06:12. > :06:14.come. You would imagine would be relatively easy, to send people into

:06:15. > :06:21.the cab to identify the children. They were going around with

:06:22. > :06:27.megaphones, saying, if there are any girls say, can you let us no. What

:06:28. > :06:31.kind of system is that? I have chosen a column from Sarah Baxter in

:06:32. > :06:34.the Sunday Times and she draws attention to something which is

:06:35. > :06:37.interesting, it is so British to concentrate on whether you have a

:06:38. > :06:44.few hairy men out of the first 13 that come rather than the issue of

:06:45. > :06:50.what a clock up we have made. It is not just a question of selection,

:06:51. > :06:58.some councils have said they have sent their own people into Calais.

:06:59. > :07:03.Will they have places for them when they come back? They have not done

:07:04. > :07:06.proper vetting of the family connections back in Britain, as they

:07:07. > :07:10.would have done if those kids had actually been British in Britain and

:07:11. > :07:18.they were talking about resettling them. You have to say, for the

:07:19. > :07:21.criticism that there has been by very smug people over here about

:07:22. > :07:27.Angela Merkel, the Germans have managed the business of taking in

:07:28. > :07:32.800,000 to nearly a million people, and we can barely manage to get a

:07:33. > :07:35.couple of thousand people in, let alone kids, without having a huge

:07:36. > :07:41.argument about whether they have got to have dentistry checks because we

:07:42. > :07:47.haven't even done the basic work. The Germans are light years ahead.

:07:48. > :07:53.It is about the attitude. It makes fascinating reading. This is a

:07:54. > :08:00.former silent judge, and he says we can't keep people out and we can't

:08:01. > :08:04.send them home -- asylum judge. The Home Office have said there are

:08:05. > :08:10.12,000 failed asylum seekers. Over two years. They have either

:08:11. > :08:12.disappeared or have not been removed, and basically when you get

:08:13. > :08:20.into the system, this is the narrative of the story, the older

:08:21. > :08:25.men pretending to be children, people think this is an abuse of the

:08:26. > :08:30.system. But when they are in, it is a free for all and they disappear.

:08:31. > :08:34.Many of these people are coming here because of the war in Afghanistan

:08:35. > :08:38.which we were a part of. They have been pushed out and they can't live

:08:39. > :08:44.in that country because it is too dangerous for them. That is true,

:08:45. > :08:49.but that argument doesn't resonate as much as having young girls and

:08:50. > :08:55.young boys and children coming to the country. Why did they not want

:08:56. > :08:57.to stay in France? Some do have family here and some speak English

:08:58. > :09:03.and some think there's a better life. People look at mobile phones,

:09:04. > :09:07.people send them pictures and they think that is better. There are

:09:08. > :09:16.people who want to go to France and the majority action want to go to

:09:17. > :09:25.Germany and Sweden. The camps are going to go question not many of

:09:26. > :09:30.them have said they want to come here because it is easier to access

:09:31. > :09:40.the benefits system, that is just a fact. The next Tory, David? I'm very

:09:41. > :09:47.struck by this. -- story. This is in the Sunday Times. Louise Callaghan.

:09:48. > :09:50.She tells the story of effectively being with an Iraqi unit that

:09:51. > :09:57.becomes sandwiched between two different bits of Isis attack and

:09:58. > :10:05.defence and when she is in the vehicle an mortar lands within 30

:10:06. > :10:09.feet and I'm thinking, what must it have been like for her parents,

:10:10. > :10:13.reading this story? Several journalists have or would he been

:10:14. > :10:20.killed in the siege of Mosul. -- have already. Anthony Loyd in The

:10:21. > :10:24.Times, yesterday, his gas mask was stolen on the way in. He was trying

:10:25. > :10:29.to advise people around him about what he has to do -- what they have

:10:30. > :10:34.to do when they are attacked by snipers. We have a lot of attacks on

:10:35. > :10:40.journalists, but there are some very brave people out there. It is a

:10:41. > :10:45.great story. What about this drawing? I love this cartoon, this

:10:46. > :10:52.goes back to the immigration story. Wonderful picture. The debate is

:10:53. > :10:56.over whether they should have dental checks to see their age, and we have

:10:57. > :11:04.this funny old guy with dentures in a glass. I'm sure some of these guys

:11:05. > :11:10.are overrated, but I was at school, with people who were 14 and they had

:11:11. > :11:16.full beards and there were some who looked about 40 by the time they

:11:17. > :11:21.were 14 -- are over age for the people reach puberty at a different

:11:22. > :11:27.age. I take your point. We have a special award. We haven't mentioned

:11:28. > :11:32.Brexit yet. We are a long way into the paper review, but we are going

:11:33. > :11:35.to do so now. The front page of the Observer, a story which leaves out

:11:36. > :11:40.of Anthony Brown, the chief executive of the British bankers

:11:41. > :11:44.Association and they have made this into a prediction. They say are

:11:45. > :11:48.essentially because of the uncertainty regarding passport in

:11:49. > :11:52.rights come at the ability of financial institutions to trade in

:11:53. > :11:58.Europe after Brexit as if they were European banks, that they might

:11:59. > :12:05.relocate. We have a phoney war at the moment. It puts 1939 to 1940

:12:06. > :12:09.absolutely to shame. No one has stopped campaigning in the papers

:12:10. > :12:15.after the vote. Yes, because they don't know what is going to happen.

:12:16. > :12:22.This is in the first few months of 2017, what is that going to be?

:12:23. > :12:28.January to April? We will be able to test whether a story like this is

:12:29. > :12:33.actually true, probably by April. I don't think there will be a single

:12:34. > :12:40.one which will be true. His son says we can expect a ?20 billion bounce

:12:41. > :12:46.on the back of Brexit -- The Sun. They believe it is a great thing,

:12:47. > :12:50.they are campaigning, and they have also scare stories. In the Sunday

:12:51. > :12:55.Telegraph is the story that Nissan is going to build their cash cow

:12:56. > :13:05.cars in Sunderland which is a very big story if you are on the pro

:13:06. > :13:08.Leave side. It is not on the front page, because they might not be

:13:09. > :13:14.totally sure, and what has the government done regarding this,

:13:15. > :13:17.Theresa May said to Nissan, everything is possible providing you

:13:18. > :13:21.are prepared to pay for it, the question is how much. And where else

:13:22. > :13:28.it comes from. Some deal might have been done question mark I haven't

:13:29. > :13:33.read the story. Chris Grayling is coming on the show very shortly, he

:13:34. > :13:39.has written in The Sun on Sunday about this very big decision,

:13:40. > :13:43.Gatwick and Heathrow. There is only one thing people want to know, which

:13:44. > :13:48.one, and why don't they get on with it. It will create many jobs and it

:13:49. > :13:52.will be great for the country. I can't remember a time when we

:13:53. > :13:56.weren't talking about this. The article could have been written in

:13:57. > :14:03.the mid-70s, but we are looking forward to you getting the answer

:14:04. > :14:06.out of Chris Grayling. He knows what he ready thinks and it is his job to

:14:07. > :14:13.tell you and it is your job to get it out of him. I fear he will say it

:14:14. > :14:18.is his job to tell Parliament. He will not give you a running

:14:19. > :14:23.commentary. We have had by-elections, the Liberal Democrats

:14:24. > :14:26.have done pretty well in David Cameron's constituency of Witney,

:14:27. > :14:32.coming second, ahead of the Labour Party. The Liberal Democrats will

:14:33. > :14:39.say they have had a string of local council by-election victories, and

:14:40. > :14:46.they have gone down and they are now inching their way back and in 20

:14:47. > :14:51.years they will get back to where they were. Witney is a seat in which

:14:52. > :14:57.the Labour Party has gone from 500 members to 1200 members, but in the

:14:58. > :15:04.by-election they had 5000 moats. -- 5000 votes. And so that is a ratio

:15:05. > :15:08.from party members to votes which is one of the lowest you could achieve.

:15:09. > :15:14.It must have some electoral effect, the fact he has so much membership.

:15:15. > :15:23.It is having an effect, it is pushing the Labour vote down. The

:15:24. > :15:26.time will come when... The word surely always almost means the

:15:27. > :15:41.opposite, I tell my kids. No means no, the Poldark row.

:15:42. > :15:49.Explain? He basically was in love with this woman. It is tonight. He

:15:50. > :15:58.is Ross Poldark. He is in love with Elizabeth, the posh one. He ended up

:15:59. > :16:08.marrying a common girl. He has always held a torch for her. She is

:16:09. > :16:12.a widow. In short, BBC says it isn't rape. The Mail on Sunday has done

:16:13. > :16:20.this fantastic spread and talked to fantastic rate experts. Hardly rate

:16:21. > :16:26.experts! She doesn't look frightened. There is a quote that

:16:27. > :16:30.says, her actions are not fitting with a woman frozen with fair -- my

:16:31. > :16:35.fear. Many women do have such fantasies. A lot of women might

:16:36. > :16:41.think, I wish my husband would take me like that. I have two daughters

:16:42. > :16:47.in college and one in her mid-20s and the last thing I want is her dad

:16:48. > :16:55.Mike Bent meeting young men inspired by the psychotherapist quoted here.

:16:56. > :17:02.It looks like one of those completely borderline cases. We can

:17:03. > :17:05.watch it tonight, if we are not watching Strictly Come Dancing

:17:06. > :17:10.Dance-Off with Ed Balls. Thank you. Ukip is "ungovernable"

:17:11. > :17:12.and in a "death spiral". So said the former leadership

:17:13. > :17:14.contender Steven Woolfe who, after being thumped,

:17:15. > :17:17.quit the party last week in disgust. My next guest, Suzanne Evans,

:17:18. > :17:20.author of the party's manifesto, has not so far as we can tell,

:17:21. > :17:34.hit anybody at all recently. Suzanne Evans, what can you do to

:17:35. > :17:39.help Ukip recover? Well, I think I am the right person to lead Ukip

:17:40. > :17:44.into the challenges ahead, to be able to beat the first past the post

:17:45. > :17:48.system by broadening our appeal and getting MPs into Westminster. First

:17:49. > :17:53.and foremost, I think I'm the right person to champion the cause of

:17:54. > :17:56.those 17.4 million people who voted to leave the European Union and are

:17:57. > :18:00.now seeing their democratic choice being undermined by the political

:18:01. > :18:06.class. I absolutely want to be their champion. We have seen hundreds of

:18:07. > :18:09.MPs trying to overthrow the verdict, activists and lawyers trying to

:18:10. > :18:14.undermine the will of the people. I want to say to them, don't you dare.

:18:15. > :18:19.I will be their breathing down their neck to make sure that we have that

:18:20. > :18:22.type of war. They are trying to pull us back to Brussels and I am going

:18:23. > :18:28.to make sure we pull us out of the EU exit door. You are a

:18:29. > :18:32.controversial figure within Ukip. Aaron Banks and Nigel Farage have

:18:33. > :18:36.said things about you. You have had to resign from the party, you were

:18:37. > :18:41.suspended over disloyalty. You have had a war of words with other people

:18:42. > :18:48.inside Ukip. Why should you be the unifier? I haven't had a war of

:18:49. > :18:52.words. Nothing breeds unity faster than success. With me at the helm I

:18:53. > :18:57.am absolutely confident we will be able to reach out to voters on the

:18:58. > :19:03.left and the right of politics. My background is very much one of a

:19:04. > :19:06.working-class Labour background. My great-grandfather stood for

:19:07. > :19:11.Parliament for the Labour Party three times. I was a Tory

:19:12. > :19:14.councillor. Now I sit right in the middle in Ukip. That is why I know

:19:15. > :19:20.that the policies we have can appeal. Look at the election

:19:21. > :19:24.manifesto we had in 2015. It was great. It took the best of politics.

:19:25. > :19:30.It took the best from the left and right, and was an absolute winner.

:19:31. > :19:34.The other parties could not it. This is where our future lies, going

:19:35. > :19:40.forward is to be the common sense centre. Not the wishy-washy Lib Dem

:19:41. > :19:44.Centre. A tough centre that controls borders, spends more on defence,

:19:45. > :19:49.slashes energy bills... Issues that matter. When you said Ukip had to

:19:50. > :19:56.stop being the rugby club on tour, what did you mean? Other people have

:19:57. > :20:01.described it that way. After the general election I said that perhaps

:20:02. > :20:06.there had been a bit too much testosterone in Ukip at times. That

:20:07. > :20:10.is where I can help to pour oil on troubled waters. Nigel Farage, a

:20:11. > :20:15.hugely successful leader of your party, who did his bit during the

:20:16. > :20:18.referendum campaign, said you have been a hugely unpopular figure in

:20:19. > :20:23.the party, that he constantly criticised the leadership and the

:20:24. > :20:27.party. It is very easy to say things. I thought long and hard

:20:28. > :20:30.about this leadership bid. One of the reasons I delayed announcing it

:20:31. > :20:34.was because I wanted to make sure I had the support of members to stand.

:20:35. > :20:40.I have more than enough signatures on the nomination form already to be

:20:41. > :20:42.able to go forward. Let's not forget, 3000 people signed a

:20:43. > :20:48.petition in support of me when I was suspended. I know head office was

:20:49. > :20:52.besieged with letters of support. I would not be doing this as I did not

:20:53. > :20:57.have the backing of members. They are the most important people in our

:20:58. > :21:03.party. Not the leadership. The members. The ones who go out their

:21:04. > :21:09.day in, day out, knocking on doors. But Nigel Farage is not going to

:21:10. > :21:12.back you, is he? I don't know if he will or might not. That is actually

:21:13. > :21:18.not important because we are going in a new direction. Aaron Banks, the

:21:19. > :21:22.biggest funder of the party, is backing you. Can I ask you whether

:21:23. > :21:30.you are worried that people like Aaron Banks and Nigel Farage are

:21:31. > :21:34.taking Ukip in a slightly Donald Trump direction? It will be

:21:35. > :21:38.interesting. In our leadership election, we will have had the

:21:39. > :21:42.results of the American election. I am no fan of Trump, but I am no fan

:21:43. > :21:48.of Hillary Clinton either. I suspect she will tip it. Our future as a

:21:49. > :21:54.political party in Britain does not lie in that far right wing. I do not

:21:55. > :21:58.see a ground of opinion in this country for more far-right policies.

:21:59. > :22:04.I don't see a groundswell of opinion for the right to bear arms in

:22:05. > :22:12.America. Do you think that Hassan will take the party in a far right

:22:13. > :22:16.direction? Absolutely. I don't think there is any died. Our members do

:22:17. > :22:21.not want that. We have taken a lot of stick in Ukip because we have

:22:22. > :22:28.taken the party in a perhaps slightly toxic direction. People

:22:29. > :22:32.have been verbally assaulted on the streets. They don't want to have a

:22:33. > :22:37.fresh injection of toxicity that it is going to make it even more

:22:38. > :22:44.difficult. Do they think and do you think that Rahim Hassan is toxic? I

:22:45. > :22:50.don't share his beliefs. Members will ultimately make their decision.

:22:51. > :22:54.In terms of where Ukip can go next, most people will say it is those 9

:22:55. > :22:58.million Labour voters who voted for Brexit that are your prime target.

:22:59. > :23:04.They may look at Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott and think, that is not

:23:05. > :23:08.our Labour party. In certain circumstances they could come over

:23:09. > :23:13.to Ukip. You are a Shropshire County girl and you were a Conservative

:23:14. > :23:18.candidate. You will not appeal to those people. They need a northern,

:23:19. > :23:25.rough voice. You are a little bit Margot from the good life. Goodness

:23:26. > :23:29.me! I went to a comprehensive school, I am a single mother. I get

:23:30. > :23:35.on with people from all walks of life. I will be talking more about

:23:36. > :23:40.that when I have my formal launch. You hit the nail on the head. We are

:23:41. > :23:45.the patriarchal party. I am nothing if not patriotism proud of my

:23:46. > :23:55.country. -- patriotically Jeremy Corbyn will not sing the

:23:56. > :23:56.country. -- patriotically Jeremy British flag. We do have a very

:23:57. > :24:01.strong role to play in taking votes of migrant labour but also from the

:24:02. > :24:04.Tories. Somewhere like Heywood and Middleton... You have been a

:24:05. > :24:07.complete mess as a party recently. You have lost your London

:24:08. > :24:16.headquarters. Can you survive without Aaron Banks's money? I have

:24:17. > :24:19.done my homework. I would not take over any organisation, let alone

:24:20. > :24:25.Britain's third largest political party, unless I was sure that our

:24:26. > :24:28.finances were solid. I have been assured that we are not doing nearly

:24:29. > :24:34.as badly as the headlines suggest. And indeed Aaron Banks is by no

:24:35. > :24:37.means our major donor. Ukip could survive perfectly well without him.

:24:38. > :24:38.Thank you. The autumn colours are at last

:24:39. > :24:42.spreading right across the country. And you will have noticed

:24:43. > :24:59.an invigorating snap in the air. Andrew, your words seem to be

:25:00. > :25:03.painting this picture, sent to us yesterday by one of our Weather

:25:04. > :25:09.Watchers, showing the changing colours of the trees. Today we have

:25:10. > :25:13.had a chilly start to the morning. The lower temperatures than

:25:14. > :25:20.yesterday. A beautiful Sunrise. There will be a lot of dry weather

:25:21. > :25:23.today. Like yesterday, there will be some passing showers, particularly

:25:24. > :25:30.in the East of Scotland and eastern England. Those we have at the moment

:25:31. > :25:37.should fade away pretty quickly. Cloud breaking up with some sunshine

:25:38. > :25:39.coming through. It will perhaps be a little cooler than yesterday,

:25:40. > :25:44.especially in the South West. Rain will move north. The damp weather

:25:45. > :25:49.will drift into southern England, the South Midlands overnight. The

:25:50. > :25:55.clearest weather overnight will be in the Northwest. Temperatures take

:25:56. > :26:00.a tumble. A frost developing by the end of the night. Tomorrow, a

:26:01. > :26:06.cloudier prospect across England and Wales. A few spots of rain. No

:26:07. > :26:11.significant amounts. The best of the sunshine for Scotland, Northern

:26:12. > :26:13.Ireland and the Northwest of England. Fine weather forgetting out

:26:14. > :26:17.and about. The last time Hilary Benn

:26:18. > :26:19.joined us in the studio, it was hours after being sacked

:26:20. > :26:21.as Shadow Foreign Secretary But you can't keep a Benn down,

:26:22. > :26:25.and he's bobbed up again after being elected as the first

:26:26. > :26:38.chair of parliament's First of all, congratulations on

:26:39. > :26:45.your election. Is it something of a come to be doing a select committee?

:26:46. > :26:49.Good morning. I am honoured to have been chosen by members of Parliament

:26:50. > :26:53.to chair this select committee. I think everybody recognises that the

:26:54. > :26:58.task of leading the European Union, which is what we are going to do, is

:26:59. > :27:03.the most complex task that we have faced as a country, certainly in

:27:04. > :27:08.peace time, and the select committee will play an important part in

:27:09. > :27:12.scrutinising the means by which that happens and the decisions the

:27:13. > :27:16.government takes. It is a very interesting and a slightly odd time.

:27:17. > :27:22.So far nobody from the government is saying how it is going to happen.

:27:23. > :27:26.Will you be able to fill that gap? Will you have David Davis and Liam

:27:27. > :27:32.Fox, and maybe Boris Johnson, in front of your committee explaining

:27:33. > :27:35.what they are open to. --? I am sure the committee will want to hear from

:27:36. > :27:41.all of those ministers and many other people, because once -- what

:27:42. > :27:46.is the immediate task? To work out our negotiating tactics as we

:27:47. > :27:51.undertake the process of leaving the European Union. The government says

:27:52. > :27:55.it is not going to give us a running commentary. Nobody is asking for

:27:56. > :27:58.that. But I think it is right and proper that Parliament should first

:27:59. > :28:03.of all have a chance to express a view about what our negotiating

:28:04. > :28:08.objectives are going to be. You will be cross questioning David Davis in

:28:09. > :28:11.public about his negotiating objectives? I think it is essential

:28:12. > :28:20.that is shared with Parliament. Apart from anything else, the

:28:21. > :28:24.European Parliament has this system where information is shared with it.

:28:25. > :28:28.The British Parliament cannot get anything less. Pretty Patel said you

:28:29. > :28:36.cannot do this because it is like playing poker and asking you to put

:28:37. > :28:40.your cards on the table. Essentially she said of this committee works, it

:28:41. > :28:46.on patriotic. You have to allow the government to do its job secret, in

:28:47. > :28:50.private. We all want the best possible deal out of this

:28:51. > :28:53.negotiation for the United Kingdom. Nobody is asking the government to

:28:54. > :28:58.reveal its negotiating hand, what its tactics are, its fallback

:28:59. > :29:03.position. There are some basic questions. For example, the biggest

:29:04. > :29:08.challenge we face at the moment is uncertainty about what the future

:29:09. > :29:12.holds. What is going to be our future trading relationship with the

:29:13. > :29:16.European Union? What objective is the government going to set? We need

:29:17. > :29:23.to know this before they trigger Article 50? That is a separate

:29:24. > :29:27.matter. The government argues, we have a mandate from the British

:29:28. > :29:30.people and since we are going to leave the European Union, you do

:29:31. > :29:36.need to trigger article start that process. I think we should separate

:29:37. > :29:40.that from Parliament taking a view on what the objectives should be.

:29:41. > :29:45.Let me ask you again about the committee. You talk about talking to

:29:46. > :29:50.other people. For instance, the car manufacturing industry has specific

:29:51. > :29:53.concerns. Universities have got particular concerns. Other groups of

:29:54. > :29:59.people, the construction industry, wants to know how many electricians

:30:00. > :30:03.and plumbers we are going to bring in. Will those people be in front of

:30:04. > :30:08.your committee saying specifically what they would like to see out of

:30:09. > :30:12.negotiations? One of the complex tasks having this select committee

:30:13. > :30:15.will involve is working with the other select committees in

:30:16. > :30:17.parliament that have already started talking to those different

:30:18. > :30:21.industries and sectors. One of the things I think the committee will

:30:22. > :30:26.want to do is draw on the evidence that some of those other committees

:30:27. > :30:31.have already taken, and then look at what else we need to see, who else

:30:32. > :30:32.we need to talk to. We do not want duplication. We want the most

:30:33. > :30:44.effective way of doing our job. This period of silence is going to

:30:45. > :30:49.end because you were going to do this and we will piece together a

:30:50. > :30:54.good idea of what Britain was like out of Brexit? That depends on the

:30:55. > :30:57.government and what they are prepared to say, and I expect the

:30:58. > :31:07.select committee will want to get ministers

:31:08. > :31:12.to give answers, because we want controls on free movement with the

:31:13. > :31:15.greatest possible access to the single market, and there are whole

:31:16. > :31:19.areas, defence and security and foreign policy, where everyone

:31:20. > :31:25.recognises in the United Kingdom and what will be the European Union, it

:31:26. > :31:30.is in our joint interests to find ways of cooperating because there

:31:31. > :31:35.are big challenges in the world. We mentioned Article 50, is it your

:31:36. > :31:38.understanding that before it is to get the government will have made

:31:39. > :31:44.out its position before the House of Commons and there will be a vote? I

:31:45. > :31:47.hope the government will lay out their negotiating position, but I

:31:48. > :31:53.think it is not a vote on Article 50, it is a vote on... Parliament

:31:54. > :31:57.will seek to have a vote on the negotiating plan. They are different

:31:58. > :32:02.things. It is a vote on the negotiating plan? Parliament will

:32:03. > :32:07.want to express a view about the government's negotiating plan but

:32:08. > :32:13.that is not the same as having a vote on Article 50. I understand

:32:14. > :32:18.that. This is important. People have said what Parliament might try and

:32:19. > :32:24.do is to some way undermined the referendum decision, but that is not

:32:25. > :32:28.what Parliament wishes to do and that is not what I want to do as the

:32:29. > :32:31.chair of the select committee, because I accept the decision of the

:32:32. > :32:38.referendum even though I campaign for Remain. It is about the

:32:39. > :32:45.negotiating objectives and not about the triggering of Article 50. Ahead

:32:46. > :32:47.of the triggering of Article 50, the government says these are the

:32:48. > :32:50.negotiating objectives and this is what we want to do, and Parliament

:32:51. > :32:56.says, we don't like the look of that. That is voted down, what

:32:57. > :33:01.happens then? General election? It depends. The government might need

:33:02. > :33:07.to come back and say we have had a think about it and we are going to

:33:08. > :33:11.change this or do that. We could be heading for a early election. That

:33:12. > :33:15.is in the hands of the Prime Minister, not in the hands of myself

:33:16. > :33:20.and the select committee, but it seems perfectly reasonable that the

:33:21. > :33:23.government should share it with Parliament, because they are going

:33:24. > :33:28.to share it with Europe, they are going to share their negotiating

:33:29. > :33:32.objectives, because there are practical questions, as well as free

:33:33. > :33:38.movement, and future trading relationships, are they going to

:33:39. > :33:41.remain part of Europol? One other point, I think it will be very

:33:42. > :33:45.important for the government to indicate that if it is not possible

:33:46. > :33:50.within the two years provided for by article 52 negotiate our withdrawal

:33:51. > :33:52.and a new trading relationship, market access, for services --

:33:53. > :33:59.Article 50 two negotiate a it should tell the House of Commons

:34:00. > :34:03.that it will seek a transitional arrangement with the European Union,

:34:04. > :34:07.because that will help. It might have to go on for longer than two

:34:08. > :34:14.years? The withdrawal process might be only two years because 27 other

:34:15. > :34:18.member states have got to agree to prolong it, but the transitional

:34:19. > :34:22.arrangement would offer confidence to business which is important,

:34:23. > :34:27.pending the government finally being able to negotiate a new arrangement

:34:28. > :34:32.with the rest of the European Union on trade and market access. This is

:34:33. > :34:36.clearly a very important job. Given where Labour is in the polls and

:34:37. > :34:41.given Jeremy Corbyn's victory in his second leadership election, people

:34:42. > :34:48.like you should be serving in the Shadow Cabinet, making sure the best

:34:49. > :34:53.possible result for Labour in the next election? I will be doing that,

:34:54. > :34:56.working as hard as I have always done to encourage people to vote

:34:57. > :35:01.Labour and to seek at a Labour victory at the next election. I made

:35:02. > :35:05.the decision that this is a very important task that we have got and

:35:06. > :35:08.this is the way I've decided to play my part and Parliament decided I

:35:09. > :35:15.should do so by voting me into the job. Final question, probably a

:35:16. > :35:19.terse answer, can Jeremy Corbyn be a good Prime Minister? I hope we're

:35:20. > :35:24.going to win the next election, but we have a big task our hands, Jeremy

:35:25. > :35:28.is leader and I congratulated him, the party now wants to come together

:35:29. > :35:31.to hold the government to account, but the challenge for Labour is to

:35:32. > :35:35.win the people's trust and confidence and we have a lot of work

:35:36. > :35:37.to do that. Hilary Benn, thanks for joining us.

:35:38. > :35:40.Sir Kenneth Branagh is often compared to that other theatrical

:35:41. > :35:44.One of Olivier's great roles, John Osborne's The Entertainer,

:35:45. > :35:47.is the part that Branagh has chosen to round off a season

:35:48. > :35:51.When we met at the Garrick Theatre, we began by talking about the hit

:35:52. > :35:54.TV drama, Wallander, based on the novels of Henning Mankell.

:35:55. > :35:56.Kenneth Branagh started by reflecting on Mankell's death

:35:57. > :36:04.last year, which added a real poignancy to the final series.

:36:05. > :36:14.Was there anything on his mind recently? Anything troubling him?

:36:15. > :36:19.Would you say he was depressed? Yes. Like 60% of the population. It had a

:36:20. > :36:25.definite impact because of the way he spoke of life generally had a

:36:26. > :36:32.different gravitational weight and he was somebody, I remember the last

:36:33. > :36:36.time I saw him, he was very keen to have this thing he hadn't had before

:36:37. > :36:44.and he got very giggly in this fancy restaurant. He considered that the

:36:45. > :36:47.ability, to pay for it and to eat it, to be the kind of thing, example

:36:48. > :36:54.of where he was in life which was everything which is a big adventure,

:36:55. > :36:57.this meal or that extra day. This sunshine or the relief on that

:36:58. > :37:10.plane, he was very much living right in the moment which made him very

:37:11. > :37:13.sensitive -- relief from that pain. The Entertainer, one of the great

:37:14. > :37:18.roles, why did you decide to take it on? Rob Ashford the director said he

:37:19. > :37:22.would like to do it. He said he wanted to do this and not make

:37:23. > :37:28.Archie a failure, no one says he is second rate in this and I would like

:37:29. > :37:31.this incredible passion and visceral emotion in the play to be at the

:37:32. > :37:39.centre, said this is not a lament. It is not a dying for -- so this is

:37:40. > :37:43.not a lament. It is not about an England which is no more, this is a

:37:44. > :37:54.quintessential state of the nation play. This was written 56 years --

:37:55. > :37:59.written in 56, 57, Indymedia aftermath of Suez. -- in the

:38:00. > :38:07.immediate aftermath will could you say this is a post Brexit

:38:08. > :38:11.play? It is hard not to be aware of that in the evening itself, you feel

:38:12. > :38:14.that in the theatre, there are intakes of breath and recognition

:38:15. > :38:22.and sometimes people are very agitated. By the provocation in the

:38:23. > :38:27.play which is significant. It has voices, everyone looking to see what

:38:28. > :38:33.is possible, and we are watching a post-Suez play when Britain did not

:38:34. > :38:36.know who it was, whether it had power in relation to the Americans

:38:37. > :38:40.and the Russians. We are also watching a play which was one

:38:41. > :38:45.heartbeat away from the 60s. Rock 'n' roll was just art in. Everything

:38:46. > :38:49.they thought they might not have there is a beacon in the play, the

:38:50. > :38:55.prospect of a new life in Canada is held up. My own parents, my dad was

:38:56. > :39:00.a joiner, there was the possibility of assisted passage to take the

:39:01. > :39:04.family to Canada or Australia where his skills would be welcomed. We

:39:05. > :39:09.would have a new life. The play talks about Archie coming from

:39:10. > :39:15.Bridlington, he could have a Chevrolet and a new television set.

:39:16. > :39:21.Those kind of things, the consumer durables, they were choices. Many

:39:22. > :39:27.people watching on television are frustrated because they can't see

:39:28. > :39:31.this in the West End, but on screens around the country this is going to

:39:32. > :39:36.be filmed, which is a bit strange. It is not the film we remember, it

:39:37. > :39:41.is not the play, it is something between the two. It is a live cinema

:39:42. > :39:46.broadcast from the Garrick Theatre in front of the 710 people watching

:39:47. > :39:52.here, it will go out to hundreds of screens all over the world. All over

:39:53. > :39:58.this country. If someone's phone goes off, everyone watching in the

:39:59. > :40:01.cinema will hear it? That is correct, but I can say, given the

:40:02. > :40:08.degree of nervous tension, the possibility of laughing is unlikely.

:40:09. > :40:14.What it does do is bring an incredible focus to the evening. It

:40:15. > :40:18.has been amazing, we have done this with a Winter 's tale and Romeo and

:40:19. > :40:22.Juliet, nearly 400,000 people have seen these shows around the globe,

:40:23. > :40:27.and when you know that is happening you are very well-behaved. This is

:40:28. > :40:34.part of the Kenneth Branagh season at the Garrick Theatre where you put

:40:35. > :40:37.on and often direct and start in the place, and the highlight for many

:40:38. > :40:45.people was the Winter 's tale. What about Judi Dench? Extraordinary

:40:46. > :40:54.moment. Great comfort that I have had of the. I am not well. In that

:40:55. > :41:00.role, the combination of consummate gifts of a stage artist and mastery

:41:01. > :41:05.of Shakespeare was at the service of an incredibly strong, feisty

:41:06. > :41:10.intelligent, passionate sharp edged, sharp-witted woman who takes a man

:41:11. > :41:16.who has made an insane and ridiculous accusation of infidelity

:41:17. > :41:19.on the part of his wife and she shows in white he is wrong over

:41:20. > :41:26.period of years and punishes him in the way he ought to be punished --

:41:27. > :41:29.shows why he is wrong. And then offers redemption through what you

:41:30. > :41:35.Michael Shakespearian magic. Judi Dench was earthy and sexy and magic

:41:36. > :41:41.and funny and also heartbreaking -- through what you might call

:41:42. > :41:43.Shakespearian magic. Being on stage with her was an electrifying

:41:44. > :41:49.experience because she is always different every night. She is a

:41:50. > :41:55.shining example of what is possible in the hands of a great artist.

:41:56. > :42:01.1974, the film of murder on the Orange express comes out, one of the

:42:02. > :42:07.great films -- murder on the aria and express. You are doing this

:42:08. > :42:12.again, why? It is a great story, Agatha Christie knew how to write a

:42:13. > :42:16.cracking yarn and that psychological thriller, 12 suspects trapped in a

:42:17. > :42:19.very dangerous place. The possibility of doing that with a

:42:20. > :42:25.great cast is very attractive. Ingrid Bergman, Lauren Bacall, John

:42:26. > :42:30.Gilbert, Albert Finney, you have assembled a good cast arrival that?

:42:31. > :42:37.We have Johnny Depp and Michelle Pfeiffer, Derek Jacobi. I will also

:42:38. > :42:43.be appearing in it as her kill Prahran. It is endlessly gripping. I

:42:44. > :42:48.look forward to it very much. You sound like a lucky man, Kenneth

:42:49. > :42:57.Branagh, thanks for joining us. Appreciate it. Sir Ken Branagh. I

:42:58. > :43:05.said Steven Woolfe was punched, we know he went down, but we don't know

:43:06. > :43:06.he was punched, so apologies that. -- apologies for that.

:43:07. > :43:09.Chris Grayling was one of the most prominent leaders of the Leave side

:43:10. > :43:12.Theresa May made him Transport Secretary which,

:43:13. > :43:14.with huge decisions to come about Heathrow and high-speed rail,

:43:15. > :43:18.But he's also expected to be a decisive voice around the Cabinet

:43:19. > :43:23.Have you taken a decision about the airport? That will be taken this

:43:24. > :43:25.week, we have a genuinely difficult decision because there are three

:43:26. > :43:36.very good choices on the table and I've visited all three. Heathrow and

:43:37. > :43:40.Gatwick? Heathrow to make it a double runway, essentially, and

:43:41. > :43:46.Gatwick with a new runway to the south. You haven't made up your

:43:47. > :43:49.mind? It is a difficult one, they are three well crafted proposals and

:43:50. > :43:53.they could bring benefits to the United Kingdom. You take a decision

:43:54. > :43:59.and then we have a year-long consultation process. What can you

:44:00. > :44:02.get from that? It is a statutory process, some people have said the

:44:03. > :44:06.decision has been delayed by year, but it hasn't. The planning act has

:44:07. > :44:10.a clear process for a project of this kind, which was introduced to

:44:11. > :44:15.address the issue... We have the 10-year inquiry for Heathrow

:44:16. > :44:20.terminal five, for example, and it reduces the period and it

:44:21. > :44:23.streamlines it, so we have the consultation, Parliamentary

:44:24. > :44:28.scrutiny, vote in parliament and then the chosen airport can deliver

:44:29. > :44:32.the detailed planning application. Most countries of our size have a

:44:33. > :44:37.single hub airport which connects to the rest of the world, is that what

:44:38. > :44:43.we need? That is one alternative, the other side of the argument is

:44:44. > :44:47.that the arrival of new aircraft like a new Boeing 747 makes it

:44:48. > :44:50.possible to run a point-to-point aviation in a way which was not

:44:51. > :44:55.possible in the past, at a much lower cost, so there are competing

:44:56. > :44:59.arguments. If you go for Heathrow, they will be big party management

:45:00. > :45:03.problems, Boris Johnson said he will lie down in front of the bulldozers.

:45:04. > :45:07.You might have to get a bigger bulldozer. LAUGHTER

:45:08. > :45:13.Yarde there will be challenge and opposition whatever option -- they

:45:14. > :45:17.will be challenge and opposition whatever option, but we have got to

:45:18. > :45:21.deliver the best connectivity at a time when we want to grow trade

:45:22. > :45:24.international links and open up opportunities for Britain, and of

:45:25. > :45:29.course there will be opposition whatever we do.

:45:30. > :45:41.You have backed HS2 absolutely. Can you just rehearse for us by how much

:45:42. > :45:46.the costs have can you tell us how much the costs of increased? We are

:45:47. > :45:51.tunnelling quite a lot under the childrens. That is a cost we would

:45:52. > :45:55.not have incurred if we had just decided to build it above ground in

:45:56. > :46:00.the way that other countries have done. Any escalation in cost is not

:46:01. > :46:03.about a project under control. It is about conscious political decisions

:46:04. > :46:08.to find the right balance between a project we need and an impact on the

:46:09. > :46:12.environment we want to minimise. Andrew Adonis said it would cost the

:46:13. > :46:18.country 30 billion. It is now around 50 billion. The Institute for

:46:19. > :46:23.Economic Affairs has suggested 80 billion. Is this a blank check? Is

:46:24. > :46:29.there a limit? Is there a moment where you say, I know this is a

:46:30. > :46:37.prestige project but is now too expensive? No, there isn't. The

:46:38. > :46:40.current figures include contingency and risk planning. We are in a

:46:41. > :46:45.situation where the bill that will start phase one is nearly through

:46:46. > :46:48.the house of lords. It is due to complete its passage around the turn

:46:49. > :46:51.of the year. We will start construction of the first phase from

:46:52. > :46:56.London to the Midlands in the New Year. It is not a question of

:46:57. > :47:01.whether this is a project with a distant future. It is a project

:47:02. > :47:06.about to start. It is a hugely expensive project. In terms of the

:47:07. > :47:11.amounts, we talk about these big figures, it is the equivalent of 100

:47:12. > :47:14.new General Hospitals for this country. It is the equivalent of

:47:15. > :47:19.more than one dozen new aircraft carriers. It would transform the NHS

:47:20. > :47:23.and make the lives of people on benefits much easier if you chose

:47:24. > :47:28.not to spend it on this railway. My real question is, is there a moment

:47:29. > :47:31.when it becomes too expensive? Has this decision been taken and will

:47:32. > :47:40.nothing alter it or can you alter the decision? The costs are not

:47:41. > :47:44.rising. We are very committed... Can you guarantee that if the IAEA are

:47:45. > :47:49.right and this ends of costing ?80 billion, Christopher Grayling will

:47:50. > :47:54.resign from the government? By the time we finish the project I don't

:47:55. > :47:57.imagine I will still be transport Secretary. If we are going to have a

:47:58. > :48:04.transport system that will deliver for this country for the future, we

:48:05. > :48:08.need this. HS2 is about speed. We have a transport system that is

:48:09. > :48:13.creaking at the seams. We need extra capacity. If you are going to build

:48:14. > :48:18.extra capacity on the railways, why not build a state-of-the-art railway

:48:19. > :48:23.rather than using the technology of yesterday? HS2 does not even

:48:24. > :48:26.connected to the Eurostar terminal. People will have to get out at

:48:27. > :48:32.Euston and walk along the pavement to get to the continent. Are you

:48:33. > :48:37.convinced it is not right to transfer directly onto the Eurostar

:48:38. > :48:41.route? When people talk about connectivity, connectivity for HS2

:48:42. > :48:44.is about linking Birmingham and Leeds, Birmingham and Manchester,

:48:45. > :48:48.creating a real additional benefit for the Midlands and the Northern

:48:49. > :48:54.economy. People tend to look at it to a London prism. Other people say

:48:55. > :49:00.that so-called HS3, linking the northern cities, will do more for

:49:01. > :49:04.the North? Of course, we are developing that for the future. That

:49:05. > :49:09.development work is being done right now. At the same time we are

:49:10. > :49:13.spending three other than ?50 million on rail improvements to

:49:14. > :49:17.Liverpool. And the trans-Pennine route. It is not that nothing is

:49:18. > :49:20.happening in the north. What is happening right now is important

:49:21. > :49:26.that will make a difference for a similar. Let me turn to Brexit. The

:49:27. > :49:30.big news of the week was the collapse of the trade deal with

:49:31. > :49:36.Canada and the EU. Are you worried about that? Are you thinking, this

:49:37. > :49:40.will be harder than we expected? We want the Canadian deal to be done.

:49:41. > :49:44.It is in the interests of everybody on both sides of the Atlantic that

:49:45. > :49:48.this happens. We are the European Union's most important export

:49:49. > :49:54.market. Look at the issue of Belgium this week. We are a huge market for

:49:55. > :49:58.Belgian agriculture. Nobody in continental Europe benefits from a

:49:59. > :50:05.reduction in the abilities to trade with the United Kingdom. Have you

:50:06. > :50:10.got the Walloons onside? It is not going to be in their interest to see

:50:11. > :50:15.tariff plot -- tariffs imposed. We will have tariff free trade,

:50:16. > :50:19.sensible trade arrangements. It is in both our interests that this will

:50:20. > :50:23.happen. Through the referendum campaign people like you said this

:50:24. > :50:30.was going to happen because they are rational free-trades. Actually what

:50:31. > :50:37.we are seeing at the moment is a lot of politics involved. Patriotic and

:50:38. > :50:40.angry Frenchman and Germans talking about how we have behaved. There is

:50:41. > :50:46.more emotion in this and therefore it will be more troubling than you

:50:47. > :50:49.expected? There was always going to be a in this, politics, political

:50:50. > :50:55.statements, political positioning before discussions start. I have

:50:56. > :50:58.been having regular dealings with counterpart in the European Union,

:50:59. > :51:01.with the commission, since taking over this job. My experience has

:51:02. > :51:07.been nothing but friendly relations and a desire to work together in the

:51:08. > :51:10.future. One of the problems ahead, and the Canadian thing shows this

:51:11. > :51:15.comment is that if we cannot do proper trade deals until we have

:51:16. > :51:19.dealt with the EU negotiations, we could face a cliff edge. In other

:51:20. > :51:23.words, we cannot do a trade deal with Canada now, perhaps we ought to

:51:24. > :51:27.be able to do that since we are leaving anyway. We are already

:51:28. > :51:35.having discussions with other countries. What we can't do is

:51:36. > :51:38.insert ourselves in the middle of the Canadian trade deal while

:51:39. > :51:42.members of the European Union. But of course we can pave the way for

:51:43. > :51:48.the trade deals that follow. That is what we will do. That is what Liam

:51:49. > :51:52.Fox is doing. Would you like to see Philip Green stripped of his

:51:53. > :51:57.knighthood? Parliament has expressed a clear view. This is a matter for

:51:58. > :52:01.the Independent honours committee. They will take note of what has

:52:02. > :52:05.happened. It is their calls. Hilary Benn was saying now that the most

:52:06. > :52:10.important thing is to make it clear that there could be a transitional

:52:11. > :52:16.period between horse leaving the EU and everything being tidied up.

:52:17. > :52:19.There is a fear we run out of time in two years and the deals have not

:52:20. > :52:23.been done, and business and industry do not have the certainty they need.

:52:24. > :52:28.Do you think a transitional arrangement is sensible? It is a

:52:29. > :52:33.difficult argument. We have been saying very clearly that we cannot

:52:34. > :52:39.give a running commentary on this. I know people are frustrated. We are

:52:40. > :52:44.all very frustrated! Laying all your cards on the table at the start of a

:52:45. > :52:48.negotiation is not sensible. We will do the right thing for Britain. We

:52:49. > :52:50.will inform Britain as much as we possibly can. The national interest

:52:51. > :52:53.has to come first. Thank you. Loudon Wainwright III, quirky,

:52:54. > :52:55.self-exposing, often funny - and a real survivor who's been

:52:56. > :52:58.on the road since the 1960s. There is really no American

:52:59. > :53:01.singer quite like him, and he's back in the UK

:53:02. > :53:04.for a nationwide tour. He headlined the London Palladium

:53:05. > :53:16.last night, and he's Welcome. Great to have you. Good

:53:17. > :53:22.morning. You are doing a big project about your dad, a writer for life

:53:23. > :53:29.magazine. That's right. He was a reporter. He had a column. He wrote

:53:30. > :53:32.many columns, many of which were political, but he also wrote about

:53:33. > :53:35.his personal life. I have devised a show where I connect some of my

:53:36. > :53:42.songs with some of his writing, which I perform and enjoy doing

:53:43. > :53:49.that. That is coming in March next year? I am doing it here in London

:53:50. > :53:52.in March. You have talked about using the family life. The fodder

:53:53. > :53:57.for your music has been your own life and your family, and members of

:53:58. > :54:02.your family. You have all said terrible things about each other in

:54:03. > :54:08.song. Tallo us about the song you are going to sing now. It is about

:54:09. > :54:12.you? It is about me. It is called a one-man guy, I wrote it years ago.

:54:13. > :54:21.It is about my isolationist tendencies. My job requires me to

:54:22. > :54:26.travel alone most of the time. But sometimes I can cut Michael itself

:54:27. > :54:32.off from other people. -- myself. It is not really a good thing. You

:54:33. > :54:36.started writing at the same time as Bob Dylan. Is he a deserving

:54:37. > :54:41.recipient of the Nobel Prize, and are you surprised he has been

:54:42. > :54:45.completely silent since? Working backwards, it doesn't surprise me.

:54:46. > :54:48.It is very like him to be mysterious and cryptic. I think it is great

:54:49. > :54:55.that he was given the price. I hope he takes it. He changed everything.

:54:56. > :54:58.You are a great songwriter yourself. I will let you set up. Loudon

:54:59. > :54:59.Wainwright III. Now let's find out what's coming up

:55:00. > :55:01.after the show. Coming up on Sunday Morning Live:

:55:02. > :55:08.Is it racist to want tougher checks Should the Army be allowed

:55:09. > :55:11.to recruit 16-year-olds? Donny Osmond tells us

:55:12. > :55:13.what it was like when his And music to celebrate Black History

:55:14. > :55:16.Month. Andrew Neil will be here at 11

:55:17. > :55:25.with the Sunday Politics, when his guests will include another

:55:26. > :55:28.of Ukip's senior figures, Join me at the same time next week,

:55:29. > :55:33.when my guests will include For now, I'll leave

:55:34. > :55:37.you with Loudon Wainwright singing one of his best loved hits

:55:38. > :55:40.about life as a lone # People will know when they see

:55:41. > :55:46.this show # They'll understand just

:55:47. > :55:54.what I stand for # They'll perceive

:55:55. > :56:01.what I believe in # And they'll recognise

:56:02. > :56:08.I'm a one man guy # People meditate,

:56:09. > :56:18.hey, that's just great # People depend

:56:19. > :56:23.on family and friends # I don't know why

:56:24. > :56:31.I'm a one man guy # But these three cubic

:56:32. > :56:39.feet of bone and blood and meat # Cos I'm a one man guy

:56:40. > :56:47.in the morning # One man guy

:56:48. > :56:55.when the sun goes down # I'm a one man guy,

:56:56. > :57:15.and that one man is me # I'm gonna bathe and shave

:57:16. > :57:23.and dress myself # Unplug the

:57:24. > :57:31.phone and sleep alone # Sure it's kinda lonely,

:57:32. > :57:41.yeah, it's sort of sick # Being your own one and only

:57:42. > :57:49.is a selfish, dirty trick # But I'm a one man guy

:57:50. > :57:53.in the morning # One man guy

:57:54. > :58:00.when the sun goes down # One man guy, one man guy,

:58:01. > :58:13.only kinda guy to be # I'm a one man guy,

:58:14. > :58:26.and that one man is me.