:00:00. > :00:07.Nissan's decision to reinvest in Britain is the single biggest
:00:08. > :00:10.piece of good economic news since the Brexit vote.
:00:11. > :00:19.Political reassurance or private deal?
:00:20. > :00:21.Optimism on tariffs or tax-payer's money?
:00:22. > :00:43.The man who did the deal, Business Secretary Greg Clark,
:00:44. > :00:57.Can he - will he - shed light on this absolutely crucial question?
:00:58. > :01:00.But what's the single most important thing Britain must do to make
:01:01. > :01:02.Sir Michael Wilshaw, England's outgoing Inspector
:01:03. > :01:10.I've also been talking to Brendan Cox, whose wife
:01:11. > :01:12.Jo was killed in her constituency in June,
:01:13. > :01:14.about how he and his children are struggling to make
:01:15. > :01:33.He said on that day one we were driving down the road, I knew lots
:01:34. > :01:34.of people loved mummy but I didn't realise that many people did.
:01:35. > :01:37.Ewan McGregor on fatherhood, modern America and Trainspotting too.
:01:38. > :01:39.And reviewing the papers the man who brought us Rebus,
:01:40. > :01:41.Ian Rankin, the leading Labour Leave campaigner,
:01:42. > :01:44.Kate Hoey, and Rachel Johnson of the Mail on Sunday.
:01:45. > :01:47.But first the news with Christian Fraser.
:01:48. > :01:51.The head of the FBI has defended a renewed investigation
:01:52. > :01:53.into Hillary Clinton's use of emails during her time as
:01:54. > :02:02.Its director, James Comey, says he felt an obligation
:02:03. > :02:05.Her rival, Donald Trump, has made the issue
:02:06. > :02:08.Mrs Clinton demanded full and complete facts about the renewed
:02:09. > :02:15.probe as she addressed an election rally in Florida.
:02:16. > :02:21.It's pretty strange to put something like that out with so little
:02:22. > :02:33.information right before an election. In fact, it's not just
:02:34. > :02:35.strange, it's unprecedented and it's deeply troubling.
:02:36. > :02:37.Another powerful earthquake has struck central Italy,
:02:38. > :02:39.close to the region where nearly 300 people were killed
:02:40. > :02:42.Initial reports put the magnitude at 6.6.
:02:43. > :02:45.Numerous buildings have been destroyed, including in the town
:02:46. > :02:48.of Norcha, the histroic basilica of St Benedict.
:02:49. > :02:54.The quake was felt in Rome, more than 150 kilometres away.
:02:55. > :02:56.Canada and the European Union will sign a long-delayed trade deal
:02:57. > :03:01.The EU says the deal is the most significant and ambitious
:03:02. > :03:05.The agreement has taken seven years to negotiate because of objections
:03:06. > :03:11.raised by the Belgian region of Wallonia.
:03:12. > :03:14.The families of staff at the US consulate in Istanbul have been
:03:15. > :03:18.The State Department says extremist groups are trying to target
:03:19. > :03:23.Last week US citizens were advised to avoid south-east
:03:24. > :03:28.Turkey and carefully consider risks elsewhere.
:03:29. > :03:30.Ministers want to change the way disability benefit
:03:31. > :03:33.claimants are assessed, to help people get back into work.
:03:34. > :03:37.Charities have welcomed the consultation into
:03:38. > :03:39.the Work Capability Assessment, which will seek views
:03:40. > :03:42.on how to provide targeted and personalised support.
:03:43. > :03:47.Labour have continued to call for the assessment to be scrapped.
:03:48. > :03:51.New York's Metropolitan Opera halted an afternoon performance
:03:52. > :03:54.when an audience member sprinkled what is suspected to be cremated
:03:55. > :03:58.The incident happened during an intermission
:03:59. > :04:01.of Guillame Tell, prompting anti-terror units to enter
:04:02. > :04:07.Cultural venues in New York are on alert for potential threats
:04:08. > :04:29.Dominated by that story of Hillary Clinton and the e-mails. Trump
:04:30. > :04:34.absolutely resurgent. It is a complicate it and sensational story.
:04:35. > :04:40.Hillary at war with the FBI, says the Sunday Times. The Observer has,
:04:41. > :04:45.angry Democrats cried foul at new FBI probe into Clinton. And I am
:04:46. > :04:51.alarmed looking Hillary Clinton on the front of the Sunday Telegraph.
:04:52. > :04:59.Lots of other stories, including Brexit stories. Finally, the Sunday
:05:00. > :05:07.Mirror has the only semi-political story. Michael Gove leaves his son
:05:08. > :05:12.for six hours to go partying. We start off with Hillary Clinton. This
:05:13. > :05:17.is possibly the weekend when Donald Trump wins the American Presidency?
:05:18. > :05:21.Yes, according to some of the commentators it is. It is another
:05:22. > :05:27.twist. You don't know where this is going to end up next. You couldn't
:05:28. > :05:31.write it. This is a problem for satirists and thriller writers.
:05:32. > :05:34.Simon Heffer in the Telegraph makes the point towards the end of his
:05:35. > :05:41.piece that this is a phenomenon to do with people supporting Mr Trump
:05:42. > :05:49.is an opportunity to smack the smug elite in the mouth. It is a
:05:50. > :05:57.reverberation. It says this is happening in other countries. Brexit
:05:58. > :06:01.was a smack in the mouth. It is against the establishment. We are
:06:02. > :06:05.seeing the rise of antiestablishment voting elsewhere. If anybody can get
:06:06. > :06:10.on Twitter and you clicked on Michael Moore, the American
:06:11. > :06:14.satirist's rant about why people are voting for Trump, it is well worth
:06:15. > :06:23.watching. Even though we can't show it. Moving straight on to another
:06:24. > :06:31.directly related story, we have got Anthony Wiener. This is the
:06:32. > :06:37.sleazebag American politician who has been dragged into the Hillary
:06:38. > :06:40.Clinton e-mail story. Just when she thought it was safe to measure the
:06:41. > :06:48.drapes in the Whitehouse, this is the worst October spectacular you
:06:49. > :06:56.could possibly conjure hope for her. -- up. The FBI were looking into
:06:57. > :07:04.some texts from Anthony Wiener. They discovered another cache of Hillary
:07:05. > :07:09.Clinton e-mails. Then they decided to reopen the best a geisha in. I
:07:10. > :07:15.was watching Trump last night responding to this and he was
:07:16. > :07:20.smoking. We don't know if there is anything in these e-mails. Simon
:07:21. > :07:23.Heffer points out that if you are the head of the FBI you don't do
:07:24. > :07:29.something as incendiary as this unless there is good reason. He
:07:30. > :07:33.thinks maybe be seen your members of the FBI were saying, you've got to
:07:34. > :07:39.go with this, we can't left this life. Why else would he do it unless
:07:40. > :07:45.it is an overtly political act? If Hillary Clinton wins, his head is on
:07:46. > :07:49.the chopping block. Yes, he would look stupid as head of the FBI. We
:07:50. > :07:56.are all fascinated by this but none of horse have a vote. Onto a British
:07:57. > :08:02.story, Nissan. A really good spread in the Observer about the British
:08:03. > :08:07.car industry generally. Yes, Nissan throws the UK a Brexit lifeline but
:08:08. > :08:11.GM may hit the road. It is a very good review of the car industry and
:08:12. > :08:18.how it was so down and now it is coming up. The Nissan decision,
:08:19. > :08:25.having expressed some concerns, to now say they are going to stay, was
:08:26. > :08:28.a great boost to all of horse who are pleased that we voted to leave.
:08:29. > :08:33.The issue now of course is that there are some people who feel in
:08:34. > :08:39.some way the government must have bribed them. Obviously you will go
:08:40. > :08:42.into this later. I do think, and I looked at a story in the Sunday
:08:43. > :08:48.Express about how some people are now saying, how can labour, a party
:08:49. > :08:52.of workers, be so negative about what is a good news story?
:08:53. > :08:58.Particularly just to the people of Sunderland, where there was a huge
:08:59. > :09:05.vote to leave. I don't think there could have been a financial kickback
:09:06. > :09:08.deal. Actually giving them money to compensate against tariffs would be
:09:09. > :09:16.against article three of the World Trade Organisation rules, which
:09:17. > :09:20.Dominic Lawson has pointed out. Let's be honest. There are a lot of
:09:21. > :09:29.people still who want to rock the boat on Brexit and I giving every
:09:30. > :09:33.opportunity. Nissan has done a great service because now I think we will
:09:34. > :09:36.see a lot more companies actually coming out and saying, we have
:09:37. > :09:41.confidence that we will get the best deal possible. It is also just a
:09:42. > :09:46.good piece of informative journalism. I did not realise, for
:09:47. > :09:51.example, that Dyson is now trying to manufacture and urban car, some kind
:09:52. > :09:57.of automated car. Lots of carmaking going on in Britain that I knew
:09:58. > :10:00.nothing about. The head of Rolls-Royce says that when people
:10:01. > :10:04.talk about industrial revolution, there really is one. There is
:10:05. > :10:08.breathtaking technology coming. Brexit has changed the politics of
:10:09. > :10:16.the UK, but particularly the politics of Scotland. There is a
:10:17. > :10:23.story in the Sunday Herald. You have got your iPad. If you live south of
:10:24. > :10:27.the border and you do the mainstream media, you may have the idea that
:10:28. > :10:34.Scottish independence has gone away. But it really hasn't. North of the
:10:35. > :10:38.border it is a continuing issue. Independent Scotland could remain in
:10:39. > :10:42.the EU after Brexit, a leading expert says. We don't believe in
:10:43. > :10:50.experts and a Moore. This is John Curtis. He says what could happen is
:10:51. > :10:53.that after independence, if Scotland went for independence, Scotland
:10:54. > :10:59.could just slip into the UK role as a member state in the EU. Whether
:11:00. > :11:05.that would work or not, it's a lovely thing to put on the
:11:06. > :11:10.manifesto. To say this could all be painless. We come back to the same
:11:11. > :11:16.thing. Look at what has happened with Canada, how someone like
:11:17. > :11:22.Wallonia can screw it up years. You've got people like Spain. Would
:11:23. > :11:27.they be happy? Spain looking at Catalonia. Catalans want
:11:28. > :11:30.independence. Then the Catalans would go, wait a minute, it is easy
:11:31. > :11:39.when you become an independent country to get into the EU. Let's
:11:40. > :11:44.give our commiserations to rebus, who has retired. You dragged him
:11:45. > :11:51.back from retirement one last time, maybe not one last time. Who knows?
:11:52. > :11:55.You always said because you are a Scottish writer you had to take a
:11:56. > :12:00.position on independence. You had this chain-smoking old soak from the
:12:01. > :12:05.1970s, who was pro-union and going to vote no, and you had his
:12:06. > :12:12.sidekick, younger and trendier, voting for the SNP. Is that by and
:12:13. > :12:19.large still their positions? Yes, that would be their positions. Rebus
:12:20. > :12:25.does not like change. Siobhan Clarke is younger, more idealistic. She
:12:26. > :12:28.says, let's go for it? Ian Rankin is right in the middle! This is Mike
:12:29. > :12:36.Jekyll and Hyde. I am not taking any side. On Twitter I did say that I
:12:37. > :12:41.would not get into politics ever. But on Brexit, Remain was my
:12:42. > :12:49.position. Another very interesting piece by a name we don't often hear
:12:50. > :12:55.in the newspapers, Elliott. He is head of a sports Manufacturing
:12:56. > :13:01.company. He is a big shot in the world of business and in
:13:02. > :13:05.Conservative oriented politics. He has written an interesting piece in
:13:06. > :13:10.the Sunday Times. Eady told swat Theresa May's real position on
:13:11. > :13:17.Brexit is. Yes, it's an important story. Angela Merkel says if
:13:18. > :13:23.everyone is sensible we will get a sensible solution. Backs up what
:13:24. > :13:30.Kate Hoey was saying. He says we will get a sensible deal and this is
:13:31. > :13:35.what the EU should do. There should be give and take on both sides, with
:13:36. > :13:41.skilled workers, regulatory equivalence for a financial services
:13:42. > :13:46.and a sort of free trade tariff union, a customs union. So the idea
:13:47. > :13:53.that Rolls-Royce can carry on manufacturing, our car industry can
:13:54. > :13:58.carry on manufacturing, makes sense. I really hope that actually is what
:13:59. > :14:04.eventuate. This is what -- this is interesting. We are a customs union,
:14:05. > :14:09.we don't have tariffs and the pound is lower, that is very good for
:14:10. > :14:13.modern British manufacturing and engineering, which has always been
:14:14. > :14:17.the poor relation in our lifetimes. It is tough. This could be the
:14:18. > :14:23.rebalancing of the British economy we have been talking about for 30
:14:24. > :14:28.years? And it also gets that really big demand, which was there,
:14:29. > :14:31.whatever people say about no freedom of movement, not wanting to stop
:14:32. > :14:39.immigration of people we need in this country. The high skills thing
:14:40. > :14:43.could still happen. As long as we are not in the EEA, we don't have to
:14:44. > :14:49.go along with that. We need students to come in from other countries. I
:14:50. > :14:53.think students would still allow -- be allowed to come in. But they need
:14:54. > :14:57.to be clear they are going back again. What about importing
:14:58. > :15:05.inflation? Typhoo tea is going to be twice as expensive. The Apple Mac as
:15:06. > :15:10.well. A young London-based techie said yesterday it is now cheaper to
:15:11. > :15:14.fly to Canada, by your MacBook there and fly home again, than to walk
:15:15. > :15:18.down the street and buy it in your local Apple Store.
:15:19. > :15:26.Apples have always been cheaper in Canada. One final Brexit-related
:15:27. > :15:32.story, the return of Tony Blair. Riding high to revive the remain
:15:33. > :15:38.forces. We have mentioned Simon heifer before, this picture of Tony
:15:39. > :15:43.Blair with a Chinese actress during his book launch and Tony Blair
:15:44. > :15:51.shoots the remain cause in the foot. I have to say Tony Blair went off
:15:52. > :15:54.around the world and made millions and now he feel he has made enough
:15:55. > :16:00.and wants to come back. Of course help has a right to say, but I was
:16:01. > :16:03.pleased he said this, because that will nail the case for the the
:16:04. > :16:09.remainers that they have got someone like him to support them. One more
:16:10. > :16:15.story is Michael Gove in trouble for leaving his 11-year-old in a hotel.
:16:16. > :16:21.I can't work out, if this is a story or not a story. What do you think?
:16:22. > :16:28.It is not much of a story. An 11-year-old left in a luxury B B
:16:29. > :16:32.for some hours, who is found wandering the corridor by a porter
:16:33. > :16:35.who get worried. If it was my eleven-year-old he wouldn't have
:16:36. > :16:39.left the room, because he would be on his computer and he would have
:16:40. > :16:43.had a mobile phone and said, what time are you coming home? You know,
:16:44. > :16:50.Gove was there dancing very badly apparently. Here is somebody who
:16:51. > :16:54.knows, Rachel Johnson was there. I should never admit to this, I was
:16:55. > :17:01.with Michael and Sara until 1. 30 that morning. Can I say their son
:17:02. > :17:06.was babysitting their two dogs. It is the dogs we should worry about.
:17:07. > :17:17.They left the dogs as well. I think it is fine. We were both invited to
:17:18. > :17:25.the Sunday Times literary festival. He was on the dance floor and I
:17:26. > :17:32.asked the DJ to put on Blurred Lines. So there was some Blurred
:17:33. > :17:39.Lines. In terms of Ed Balls and Michael Gove dancing technique,
:17:40. > :17:41.enlighten us. I think Michael is a shoe in for Strictly next year. So
:17:42. > :17:44.thank you. Round my way, you can barely
:17:45. > :17:49.see the sky for bats. You can hardly see the ground
:17:50. > :17:51.for spiders, and you can't move without bumping
:17:52. > :17:53.into toddlers dressed as witches. Let's hope for a downpour on the
:17:54. > :17:57.trick or treaters tomorrow night. Over to Helen Willetts
:17:58. > :18:11.in the weather studio. My little girls are very excited.
:18:12. > :18:15.The weather, it is thick fog. But no down pour in sight. The fog has been
:18:16. > :18:19.causing problems for travellers. This was Kent an hour or so ago. It
:18:20. > :18:23.that is time of year, there is no wind and there is no sun and it
:18:24. > :18:32.won't just be a problem this morning. Tomorrow it will be a more
:18:33. > :18:36.widespread problem. So the fog will clear in the south and things
:18:37. > :18:43.brighten up. But it will take time. When we see the sun, 15 or 16.
:18:44. > :18:48.Stubborn cloud in central areas. The rain starting to lift in Scotland
:18:49. > :18:57.and Northern Ireland. Still very mild for the time of year. So good
:18:58. > :19:02.news for Divali. It will become foggy in the south again. Not a cold
:19:03. > :19:07.night. Our concern is for fog in southern areas tomorrow morning.
:19:08. > :19:12.More widespread in England and Wales and dense and patchy. Patchy makes
:19:13. > :19:16.it more dangerous for travellers. But once it clears, 18 could be the
:19:17. > :19:18.high. Behind this weather front in the north some colder weather is on
:19:19. > :19:23.the way. . After more than 20 years
:19:24. > :19:25.in front of the camera, Ewan McGregor is making his debut
:19:26. > :19:28.as a director, with an adaptation of Philip Roth's masterpiece
:19:29. > :19:30.American Pastoral. Set in the 1960s and 70s,
:19:31. > :19:32.the film charts the disintegration of the perfect family
:19:33. > :19:38.after a terrorist bombing. McGregor plays Swede,
:19:39. > :19:40.an all-American sports hero with a beauty queen wife
:19:41. > :19:42.and a beloved only child, his deeply troubled,
:19:43. > :19:53.rebellious daughter. It is a revolution. People standing
:19:54. > :19:57.up for their rights. Are you going to defend them? Maybe you should
:19:58. > :20:06.join them. The governor called the national guard in. Of course. He
:20:07. > :20:16.can... Can't treat black people... No blacks on the City Council. We
:20:17. > :20:22.have 80% negroes. I forgot. You're a hero. I lived in the book for almost
:20:23. > :20:32.nine months and I felt I should imBews as much of the -- imBews as
:20:33. > :20:37.much Philip Rothness as I could. I'm pleased I did that. He has expressed
:20:38. > :20:42.to us that he likes the movie. If he likes it I must have done something
:20:43. > :20:48.right. Let's come on to the theme of film a girl goes wrong, it is a time
:20:49. > :20:55.of huge antiwar protests. She becomes a terrorist and her father
:20:56. > :21:00.loses her. Were you conscious this is a film about America now as well.
:21:01. > :21:06.Yes, you couldn't help but be aware of the similarities. But... It was
:21:07. > :21:10.never my motivation, I didn't try and make American Pastoral to show
:21:11. > :21:17.what is happening today. I focussed on the time Philip Roth was writing
:21:18. > :21:28.about. The only time I made a conscious effort was, there is a
:21:29. > :21:33.sequence of rioting in Newark where the African/American community took
:21:34. > :21:37.to the streets and I wanted it to be like today and there was a man being
:21:38. > :21:41.beaten by the police. This about your character and his love for his
:21:42. > :21:50.daughter. We have both got daughters. Any reflections on that?
:21:51. > :21:57.It what grabbed me. It is an extreme story about a father losing his
:21:58. > :22:08.daughter and to political radicalism and terrorism. There is a terrorist
:22:09. > :22:15.act. And she disappears. I have no experience. But when I first read
:22:16. > :22:22.the script, my eldest daughter was 15 or 16. So consciously or perhaps
:22:23. > :22:26.sub consciously I must have been preparing myself for the loss of her
:22:27. > :22:32.to university, the loss of her from the home. It makes me think of that.
:22:33. > :22:36.Also my little one, who is only five and a half, is our youngest and
:22:37. > :22:40.probably our last I think, we don't have any plans to have more, so
:22:41. > :22:45.everything she does and moves on from is the last time, you know when
:22:46. > :22:54.she is no longer using nappies, it is oh, no, she is no longer doing
:22:55. > :22:59.it. Can I ask you about train spotting Two. You have grown up, the
:23:00. > :23:06.characters, have you actually matured? I can't want to give
:23:07. > :23:10.anything away. It was a very strange and wonderful experience to come
:23:11. > :23:16.back to characters 20 years later. I have to say nerve racking. I was
:23:17. > :23:22.nervous about it. I started a week or two after the rest did. I came in
:23:23. > :23:28.and they were up to speed. I met them in a lunch queue and said,
:23:29. > :23:32.Ewan, I'm Merv ever nervous -- nervous what I if I can't find
:23:33. > :23:39.Renton. He said we all feel like that. He said wait until you have
:23:40. > :23:46.done your scene. Of course Renton is me and I'm Renton. And it was like
:23:47. > :23:52.meeting an old friend. Danny Boyle and you had a falling out when he
:23:53. > :23:58.cast Leonardo Di Caprio in The Beach. That is made up now? Yes it
:23:59. > :24:05.wasn't about Leonardo or me, but I was part of their... I felt like
:24:06. > :24:13.Danny Boyle's actor. And I felt that that, being his actor and being
:24:14. > :24:17.involved in the work we did defined me as an actor. I was his actor. I'm
:24:18. > :24:23.sure there was going to be a time when I was... He dumped you. I was
:24:24. > :24:28.dumped. There was always going to be that moment when that happened. It
:24:29. > :24:36.was difficult for him to do and it wasn't handled great. So I was very
:24:37. > :24:41.upset and took a lot... You know I regret it's taken a long time for us
:24:42. > :24:47.to mend that relationship. Which we have done now. It is in the past.
:24:48. > :24:50.You spoke out openly at the time of Scottish referendum, saying you
:24:51. > :24:55.would prefer the union to remain. Were you feeling this was a brave
:24:56. > :25:00.thing to do? Yes. I didn't in fact. I actually didn't. Tried to stay out
:25:01. > :25:04.of it. A, because I don't, because I didn't have a vote. I don't live in
:25:05. > :25:09.Scotland. And I haven't lived in Scotland since I was 17. I didn't
:25:10. > :25:13.get involved. The press of course as the press will do, found things that
:25:14. > :25:17.I had said in the past. I was openly, once in a press conference
:25:18. > :25:24.in Cannes, I was probably drunk, when I was very young, where I said
:25:25. > :25:27.some silly things about Sean Connery and Scottish independence and they
:25:28. > :25:33.took these things from long ago. The truth is I was... I didn't want
:25:34. > :25:39.Scotland to be independent in 2014. I didn't understand how it was going
:25:40. > :25:42.to, wo. I was worried that Scotland would flounder on its own and I I
:25:43. > :25:47.believed in the union. I felt were we stronger together. Then Brexit's
:25:48. > :25:53.happened now I'm confused. The day, I was in Scotland when the night the
:25:54. > :25:58.that the Brexit came and we were shooting train spotting in the
:25:59. > :26:03.street and I was watching the counts and I was saying to the crew, it is
:26:04. > :26:08.going to swing back. Don't worry. Of course by the time I got home, I
:26:09. > :26:19.switched the television on and it was 5am, and there is Farage doing
:26:20. > :26:23.his victory speech. I thought he is going to be em-Barrased, but it
:26:24. > :26:27.wasn't the case. That next day I would have voted for Scotland to
:26:28. > :26:30.leave. Thank you very much. Thank you.
:26:31. > :26:34.And American Pastoral opens here on 11 November.
:26:35. > :26:36.Now, Sir Michael Wilshaw has been Chief Inspector of English Schools
:26:37. > :26:37.under successive Education Secretaries.
:26:38. > :26:40.He's never slow to speak his mind, and has been sharply critical
:26:41. > :26:43.of Theresa May's plans for more grammar schools.
:26:44. > :26:46.As he prepares to quit, he argues that if we're
:26:47. > :26:51.going to make a success of Brexit we need an education revolution.
:26:52. > :26:57.Welcome Sir Michael. Before that, just before we start, as you look
:26:58. > :27:01.back over your time, what is your conclusion now about the state of
:27:02. > :27:07.English school education? We have got a better education system now
:27:08. > :27:14.than we have ever had. Our system was in special measures, in
:27:15. > :27:24.intensive care in the 70s, 80s and much of the 90s. But the reforms
:27:25. > :27:31.that have taken place have made a big difference. We have got a much
:27:32. > :27:36.better education system now. Better literacy and numeracy levels in
:27:37. > :27:43.primary schools. Six in ten youngsters got the top GCSE. It was
:27:44. > :27:47.less than one in five. I sense a but coming. Well, we are not there yet.
:27:48. > :27:52.We are not with the best in the world. We are not there with the
:27:53. > :27:57.South Korea and the Shanghais and some of the really good European
:27:58. > :28:02.nations. We have got a lot to do to catch up. We have got to sort out
:28:03. > :28:05.the big regional differences in performance, particularly at
:28:06. > :28:09.secondary level. Particularly in the Midlands and the north and we have
:28:10. > :28:18.got to do something about skills. How would you sum it up? It's SPS 6
:28:19. > :28:22.and a half out of - it's six and a half out of ten. You said about the
:28:23. > :28:27.poorest children as you start your last few months, it saddens me to
:28:28. > :28:31.say that we are still letting down our poorest children and that if
:28:32. > :28:36.things do not change fundamentally, we will continue to do so. What
:28:37. > :28:40.would fundamental change mean? The long tail of underachievement that
:28:41. > :28:47.contains the poorest children in the main, is one of longest in the OECD.
:28:48. > :28:53.And we have to do something about that. There is no magic bullet. But
:28:54. > :28:59.a lot of poorest children are in the white working class communities and
:29:00. > :29:04.the rural areas and the isolated areas. We have to crack that. It is
:29:05. > :29:09.not simple. But we need to get the best teachers and leaders into those
:29:10. > :29:15.communities and show they can make a difference. That is not happening at
:29:16. > :29:19.a rate it should. Wouldn't more grammar schools and choice by
:29:20. > :29:24.selection help some of the children? If I thought grammar schools would
:29:25. > :29:29.be making a difference I would be waving the flag for grammar schools.
:29:30. > :29:41.Don't think. So we have moved on. We shouldn't be myselfy eyed about the
:29:42. > :29:47.-- misty eyed about the 50s we need more educated people. For people who
:29:48. > :29:54.don't get the argument. What is the case? You take away the most able
:29:55. > :30:00.people from the all ability set up. I speak as an ex-head of a
:30:01. > :30:06.successful inner city comprehensive. I needed the top 20% to lift
:30:07. > :30:13.everybody up. And it was my ambition to get 80 or 90% through their GCSE.
:30:14. > :30:21.I would have been able to do it if the top youngsters went to grammar
:30:22. > :30:22.school. It was their excel lebs that affect -- excellence that affected
:30:23. > :30:34.the school. There is no way the expansion of
:30:35. > :30:37.grammar schools can't help the schools around them? That is the
:30:38. > :30:43.point I am making. In the service lead, digital economy we have now,
:30:44. > :30:48.we have to do well academically. What is your message to Theresa May?
:30:49. > :30:54.I would not focus on grammar schools. I would focus on education
:30:55. > :30:58.and so -- skills, the Cinderella service of the education system.
:30:59. > :31:03.With Brexit, we need more skilled youngsters to go to jobs in
:31:04. > :31:06.Sunderland and elsewhere. You say we need an education revolution to
:31:07. > :31:10.produce more technical skills training in this country. We used
:31:11. > :31:16.our polytechnics. They became universities. Was that a mistake? I
:31:17. > :31:20.think so. We need a skills revolution. I am a supporter of what
:31:21. > :31:27.Ken Baker is trying to do University technology colleges, 14 to 19. It
:31:28. > :31:31.got off to a shaky start but the principle was right. If you look at
:31:32. > :31:34.what has happened in Germany and in Switzerland and other European
:31:35. > :31:38.countries, they got it absolutely right. The reason they got it
:31:39. > :31:41.absolutely right is that there is a political focus on it in the way
:31:42. > :31:47.there hasn't been in the last half-century here. We have to have
:31:48. > :31:51.that political focus and bang heads together, employers, colleges and
:31:52. > :31:56.schools. And you have to persuade politicians as well. There is no
:31:57. > :32:02.great drive for this at the moment. As you leave your current job, are
:32:03. > :32:06.you going to commit yourself to helping drive for a new generation
:32:07. > :32:12.of technical colleges and technical universities? Yes, I am. I am going
:32:13. > :32:16.to join that revolution. It is the much reform in our country. It is a
:32:17. > :32:21.gaping hole in the education system that needs to be filled. Brexit will
:32:22. > :32:26.not be a success unless we have more home-grown talent. If we don't do
:32:27. > :32:31.this and we don't have the migrants coming in from the rest of the EU,
:32:32. > :32:35.what has happened? -- what happens? We have just done a service of
:32:36. > :32:40.employers in this country and two thirds said the schools shortage is
:32:41. > :32:46.getting worse. That would carry on unless we give it more time and
:32:47. > :32:51.attention. Focus on the great majority and those who need more
:32:52. > :32:55.skills. You have served under three different secretaries of State for
:32:56. > :33:01.education. You have been outspoken. Michael Gove has been the one who
:33:02. > :33:06.has been the most radical, a man of ideas, highly controversial. How do
:33:07. > :33:10.you Tim has an Education Secretary? He will go down as one of the great
:33:11. > :33:14.education secretaries. I had some rows with him which were
:33:15. > :33:17.well-publicised. I was broadly on the same page as him. More radical
:33:18. > :33:26.reform. Greater autonomy for people on the front line. Reform of the
:33:27. > :33:30.examination system. He was a good secretary of State. And he thought
:33:31. > :33:36.the education establishment. The blob. Do you recognise that? Yes, I
:33:37. > :33:42.recognise them. I've fought it as well. A blob is resistant to change.
:33:43. > :33:46.I wouldn't call of the blob. I think I have tried to change it.
:33:47. > :33:49.Thank you. In a political year full
:33:50. > :33:51.of shock and turbulence, The killing of the Labour MP
:33:52. > :33:55.Jo Cox just days before She was shot and stabbed
:33:56. > :33:59.as she was out working in her West Yorkshire constituency
:34:00. > :34:01.of Batley and Spen. Tributes poured in from around
:34:02. > :34:04.the world to the former aid worker, campaigner and mother of two
:34:05. > :34:08.children, aged five and three. Earlier this week, I went
:34:09. > :34:11.to meet her bereaved husband Brendan Cox at their family home -
:34:12. > :34:15.a houseboat on the Thames. I asked him first how
:34:16. > :34:17.he the children, Cuilliin I think I'm probably still in shock
:34:18. > :34:26.to a certain extent. I certainly haven't
:34:27. > :34:30.gone through the entire I spent a lot of time
:34:31. > :34:37.in the last four months really focussed on the kids and
:34:38. > :34:40.making sure they're OK and making sure they're coping with it
:34:41. > :34:43.as best as they can be. And in that, I'm positive,
:34:44. > :34:46.the kids are very strong, they have got a lot
:34:47. > :34:53.of Jo's spirit in them. And they have been surrounded
:34:54. > :34:55.by a lot of love from our family, from our friends, which
:34:56. > :34:58.means that although they have very dark and difficult times, they're
:34:59. > :35:01.actually still who they were before And we talk about
:35:02. > :35:06.their mum every day. They're very young still,
:35:07. > :35:08.do they understand what The advice from the beginning
:35:09. > :35:13.was to be open about what happened, so they don't find out
:35:14. > :35:16.things from different people. So they know, they
:35:17. > :35:19.know what happened. One of their questions
:35:20. > :35:21.in the earliest days was why So I haven't really found
:35:22. > :35:28.a convincing answer for that and I
:35:29. > :35:30.don't think they have understood why There was this huge outpouring
:35:31. > :35:42.of love and support and the big demonstrations at
:35:43. > :35:45.the time - how is it now in terms of the wider support
:35:46. > :35:47.for what Jo stood for? Thing to behold, the level
:35:48. > :35:50.of public support and compassion from people who knew
:35:51. > :35:53.Jo, which you would expect more, but so many thousands of
:35:54. > :35:57.people from the constituency, from around the UK and from around
:35:58. > :36:02.the world who have been in touch with us just to after their
:36:03. > :36:04.support and their love and that matters to me.
:36:05. > :36:08.And I feel that. It matters to me, because of
:36:09. > :36:13.the way in way Jo held She always thought the best
:36:14. > :36:19.of our country and I felt a moment like this our country has
:36:20. > :36:24.shown some of its best. Also for the kids, again one
:36:25. > :36:27.of the big pieces of advice from the beginning was
:36:28. > :36:31.helping them understand that other people are feeling some of the pain
:36:32. > :36:35.that they're feeling. And in this case that's
:36:36. > :36:37.been so visual, whether it is the thousands of people in
:36:38. > :36:40.Trafalgar Square, around the world Whether it is the people
:36:41. > :36:46.who were lining the streets of Batley and Spen when
:36:47. > :36:49.we had the funeral. On that day when we were driving, he
:36:50. > :36:52.said, I knew... I knew lots of people loved mummy,
:36:53. > :36:58.but I didn't realise this That I think, that sense that
:36:59. > :37:05.they're in this with other people and that they are surrounded
:37:06. > :37:09.with other people who are feeling not the same intensity
:37:10. > :37:11.of what they're feeling, I think makes them more confident
:37:12. > :37:13.in showing their own emotions and talking about how
:37:14. > :37:15.they're feeling as well. What happened to Jo
:37:16. > :37:19.was one of the worst things that has happened in British
:37:20. > :37:22.politics in my lifetime, can you talk me through what happened that
:37:23. > :37:26.day from your perspective? I have spent a loot
:37:27. > :37:30.of the last period And I try quite hard not
:37:31. > :37:39.to spend a lot of time Other than to say that it was
:37:40. > :37:48.obviously came from nowhere and hit us harder than anything
:37:49. > :37:51.could ever hit you, as I say, I'm trying
:37:52. > :37:53.to focus very hard on her life
:37:54. > :37:57.rather than her death. Before she died you and her had many
:37:58. > :38:02.conversations near where we are sitting now,
:38:03. > :38:04.about the condition of British politics
:38:05. > :38:05.and in particular a kind of anger
:38:06. > :38:08.and a coarseness and an aggression coming into British politics,
:38:09. > :38:10.I think probably from the left
:38:11. > :38:12.and the right, can you reflect on why that has arrived
:38:13. > :38:17.in our politics and what Jo and I thought
:38:18. > :38:20.about this a lot and we We had always been optimistic
:38:21. > :38:23.people - optimistic in our own lives, optimistic
:38:24. > :38:26.about politics, about the future of And I think in the last couple
:38:27. > :38:31.of years we started to feel But if you look at the rise
:38:32. > :38:38.of Trump in the US and Le Pen in France, there is this focus
:38:39. > :38:41.on what divides us, rather than what Which don't think we
:38:42. > :38:44.have seen in this form And that we felt very
:38:45. > :38:51.strongly, but I think Jo When she criticised
:38:52. > :38:56.Jeremy Corbyn for his leadership, the torrents of abuse
:38:57. > :38:58.that she got from that, or when she voted a different way
:38:59. > :39:01.from the rest of our party on Syria, again
:39:02. > :39:02.the Angela Eagle got a similar
:39:03. > :39:08.unbelievable level of abuse for On the other side,
:39:09. > :39:15.of things, just in the last week, Gary Lineker for
:39:16. > :39:17.saying quite generic things about his sympathy for refugees has been
:39:18. > :39:21.lampooned by sections of the media and had an incredible
:39:22. > :39:26.amount of vitriol. So there is something
:39:27. > :39:29.is stirring which I think the political centre is too
:39:30. > :39:34.You said that actually the centre has to strengthen itself and
:39:35. > :39:37.extremism from all sides is encoaching on the centre.
:39:38. > :39:39.How do you think that could possibly be done?
:39:40. > :39:41.I think part of it is about reseizing
:39:42. > :39:48.Britain has a long tradition of tolerance, of
:39:49. > :39:50.diversity, of being an outward looking nation.
:39:51. > :39:53.It is many of the things that made us a great country.
:39:54. > :39:57.But I think we have ceded that narrative about patriotism
:39:58. > :40:00.particularly to the extreme right and I think we need to regain that
:40:01. > :40:05.narrative, to define Britain in an exclusive way that brings it
:40:06. > :40:08.together, rather than blames the migrant or the refugee or the
:40:09. > :40:10.Muslim for what might be going on in our country
:40:11. > :40:18.By thanking the wonderful people of Batley and Spen.
:40:19. > :40:22.I wonder how you felt when you saw her successor
:40:23. > :40:27.as the Batley and Spen MP actually being barracked as she
:40:28. > :40:29.made her speech by some of the other groups who were there?
:40:30. > :40:32.The thing I took away from the by-election was
:40:33. > :40:35.that she won 85% of the vote, that all the far right parties
:40:36. > :40:44.The fact that a few handful of extremists
:40:45. > :40:47.barracked her on that night for me didn't take away from the overriding
:40:48. > :40:51.thing was that the people of Batley and Spen standing together to say
:40:52. > :40:53.that hatred has no place in our community.
:40:54. > :40:56.Brendan, do you think that Jo's death was in any way
:40:57. > :41:03.So I think the referendum was clearly a
:41:04. > :41:05.moment of heightened tension and heightened debate and some
:41:06. > :41:12.of that sometimes got out of control.
:41:13. > :41:15.But I think it has nothing to do with the
:41:16. > :41:19.Jo was always clear it was a legitimate choice and there were
:41:20. > :41:22.good reasons for staying and there were good reasons for going.
:41:23. > :41:24.Her argument came down on the side of staying.
:41:25. > :41:27.But that doesn't mean she couldn't see the point of view of
:41:28. > :41:30.I think for me, that what contributed
:41:31. > :41:33.to the atmosphere of Jo's death wasn't just about heightened
:41:34. > :41:36.tensions of referendum debate, it is something deeper, a deeper
:41:37. > :41:41.malaise in our politics, which is an increasing propensity
:41:42. > :41:48.Whether that is is might rants or Muslims or Europe.
:41:49. > :41:50.One of the things that Jo always found very frustrating, she
:41:51. > :41:54.was such an affable person and had very few people that didn't like
:41:55. > :41:57.her, because she was so personable and so engaging on a human level,
:41:58. > :42:03.Suddenly she had all these people who said they hated her,
:42:04. > :42:10.because of what she represented and this out of touch politicians
:42:11. > :42:12.She found it very hard to deal with, she had
:42:13. > :42:19.There has been a contempt that has been bred I
:42:20. > :42:21.think for institutions, politics and lots of
:42:22. > :42:24.other institutions, but
:42:25. > :42:32.after this, I think people did take a second to re-examine that.
:42:33. > :42:34.Of course it is fair to criticise politicians where
:42:35. > :42:37.you disagree with them, but to assume bad faith I think is
:42:38. > :42:39.something we should always try to avoid doing.
:42:40. > :42:40.Do you believe that the
:42:41. > :42:42.centre, the liberal centrist, metropolitan world has been far too
:42:43. > :42:47.slow to understand the concerns of people in other parts of the
:42:48. > :42:49.community who are having a really hard time, I'm thinking of Labour
:42:50. > :42:54.voters who had a tough time up in the north
:42:55. > :42:56.and turned to Brexit as a result and so forth.
:42:57. > :42:58.There has been a disconnect between the so-called
:42:59. > :43:00.metropolitan elite, whether they live on boats
:43:01. > :43:04.or live in houses, and large parts of rest of the country.
:43:05. > :43:06.Yeah, I think that is definitely right.
:43:07. > :43:08.I certainly think on issues like immigration there has been a
:43:09. > :43:13.On one side and a willingness to weaponise the issue
:43:14. > :43:17.I think on the right and the sort of populist right
:43:18. > :43:22.of British politics you had a willingness
:43:23. > :43:24.even among people who in no way are xenophobic themselves
:43:25. > :43:28.and galvanise political support and I think on the
:43:29. > :43:30.left, you had a willingness to ignore the issue.
:43:31. > :43:33.More in common was the slogan that she used and you
:43:34. > :43:38.Tell us about what the foundation is doing now and your hopes for it.
:43:39. > :43:43.We are trying to do two things to keep Jo's legacy going.
:43:44. > :43:45.The first is setting up the Jo Cox Foundation.
:43:46. > :43:48.And that will help make sure that we spend
:43:49. > :43:49.the money that come in, in an
:43:50. > :43:51.unbelievably generous way from the public.
:43:52. > :43:56.But that will strengthen the causes that Joe cared about - from
:43:57. > :44:06.In Syria for example they're setting up an award
:44:07. > :44:10.who go in after these bombs and pull people out of rubble.
:44:11. > :44:12.Finally, I want to return to the terrible event
:44:13. > :44:15.which is why we are talking, you have said that one phrase you hate
:44:16. > :44:18.being used about your wife is rest in peace.
:44:19. > :44:22.Just Jo was this unbelievable bundle of energy
:44:23. > :44:29.And she would never rest in peace when she
:44:30. > :44:34.And she would not want to rest in peace now.
:44:35. > :44:36.And in all the ways we have talked about, taking
:44:37. > :44:40.forward her work, her legacy, fighting for the Britain she
:44:41. > :44:43.believed in, is our way of remembering her and in doing so, not
:44:44. > :44:46.letting her rest in peace, but taking her ideas and her beliefs
:44:47. > :44:55.Brendan Cox speaking to me earlier about his wife's life and legacy.
:44:56. > :44:58.And so to the main story of the week.
:44:59. > :45:01.The good news is that Nissan, Britian's biggest car maker,
:45:02. > :45:05.is going to plough more money into its Sundarland plant,
:45:06. > :45:07.despite uncertainties after the Brexit vote.
:45:08. > :45:10.This has happened after private promises from the government.
:45:11. > :45:13.The more unsettling thing is that we have absolutely no idea
:45:14. > :45:18.Greg Clark did the deal, and the Business Secretary joins me.
:45:19. > :45:28.Excellence that affect -- excellence that affected the school. You have
:45:29. > :45:34.said that you're not going to allow British car manufacturing to be
:45:35. > :45:39.disadvantaged. Can you agree if they had to pay tariffs that would
:45:40. > :45:43.disadvantage them. Can I first endorse what you said, this is a big
:45:44. > :45:47.moment, not just for Nissan, but for the people of Sunderland, talking to
:45:48. > :45:53.one of your colleagues today, they know people there, but for the
:45:54. > :45:57.country. It is my job to provide the assurances to Nissan and others that
:45:58. > :46:02.Britain is going to be continue to be a great place to invest. I was
:46:03. > :46:07.able to do that and this was the result that we saw. Just coming back
:46:08. > :46:14.to my question, would tariffs disadvantage Nissan? Of course if
:46:15. > :46:19.there were tariffs in a market which is very international, there is a
:46:20. > :46:26.lot of trade from the continent of Europe to the UK. And vice versa. So
:46:27. > :46:32.one of the assurances that I was able to give is that our intention,
:46:33. > :46:37.our negotiating remit when it comes to the discussions with our European
:46:38. > :46:42.partners is to have a constructive and civilised dialogue to look for
:46:43. > :46:48.the common interest here. Do you mean no tariffs. It is no more in
:46:49. > :46:52.the interest for there to be tariffs to be the continent and vice versa.
:46:53. > :47:00.Our objective would be to ensure that we have a continued access to
:47:01. > :47:05.the markets in Europe and vice versa, without tariffs and without
:47:06. > :47:11.bureaucratic impediments. That is the how we will approach the
:47:12. > :47:14.negotiations. This is crucial and sheds more light on what the
:47:15. > :47:24.government's position. It is important to manufacturing they get
:47:25. > :47:32.the minimum or no tariffs or and no impediments. The reason I was able
:47:33. > :47:38.to give that assurance is this is a, a good negotiations are about
:47:39. > :47:44.finding common ground between both sides to negotiation. For the
:47:45. > :47:48.European, for the continental European car manufacturer, they
:47:49. > :47:57.export us to and we export to them, and this is an exam of if you
:47:58. > :48:03.conduct the negotiations in a serious and civilised way, there is
:48:04. > :48:10.a lot in common that we can establish and that I was able to
:48:11. > :48:15.reassure Nissan and other manufacturers. In clear terms you
:48:16. > :48:21.went to Tokyo, you went to Japan, were you able to assure Nissan that
:48:22. > :48:26.there were unlikely to be tariffs. Obviously the negotiations haven't
:48:27. > :48:31.start, what I was able to convey is what our demeanor would be in those
:48:32. > :48:35.negotiations. Obviously they haven't started, let alone ended and even's
:48:36. > :48:39.adult enough to know that. But it is important and it has been my
:48:40. > :48:45.experience that talking to people face to face and communicating the
:48:46. > :48:49.seriousness of your intent is important to any discussion, any
:48:50. > :48:55.negotiations. That is what I laid out. Let us remind ourself of what
:48:56. > :49:00.the head of Nissan said before is in happened. He said, if I need to make
:49:01. > :49:05.an investment and I can't wait until the end of Brexit then make a deal
:49:06. > :49:09.with the UK Government. He says that would investigate compensation if I
:49:10. > :49:14.faced tariffs. How worried were you at the start of this that Nissan
:49:15. > :49:20.might pull the plug? Well, it was a huge decision. Sunderland is our
:49:21. > :49:25.biggest car manufacturing plant and it is a huge beacon of excellence
:49:26. > :49:32.around the world. And these big investment decisions come every 10
:49:33. > :49:37.or 15 years. So my job as Business Secretary, if we were sitting here
:49:38. > :49:42.today discussing how we had let it slip through our fingers and we are
:49:43. > :49:46.not going to get the future of Sunderland secured, you rightly
:49:47. > :49:53.would feel that I hadn't been active enough. My determination was to go
:49:54. > :49:57.to provide the confidence that a long-term investor need that Britain
:49:58. > :50:06.will be the go-to place for manufacturing car. Nissan wanted is
:50:07. > :50:09.in in writing, did you write the letter yourself? There have been
:50:10. > :50:17.discussion and communication by letter. Does it say Greg Clark at
:50:18. > :50:22.the bottom? I have written to to head of Nissan and others and set
:50:23. > :50:26.out the reassurances we have been talking about. You have been clear
:50:27. > :50:31.that reassurances does not mean extra public money. Can I press you
:50:32. > :50:35.on that. If you were going to say to Nissan or any other car maker, if
:50:36. > :50:42.you face tariffs we will compensate you that would be against WTO rules.
:50:43. > :50:48.It would be illegal. Yes, this I why you need to set out your
:50:49. > :50:52.negotiating... Principle, the way you do it and to make a commitment
:50:53. > :50:56.not to provide compensation for the reason you say that is not possible,
:50:57. > :51:02.but to have a determination to make sure that this very important sector
:51:03. > :51:07.remains competitive. What about other forms of financial
:51:08. > :51:12.renumeration and aiding them in training workers, buying land,
:51:13. > :51:19.better roads, in order soft aid, have you offered that? I wouldn't
:51:20. > :51:24.call it soft. It is rigorous. In terms of things to do with Brexit,
:51:25. > :51:29.for all the reasons you say, it is not possible to as it were
:51:30. > :51:32.compensate for any future risk. So the intention of the government in
:51:33. > :51:39.keeping the sector competitive was important. It is the case in the
:51:40. > :51:45.motor industry that we have had a very long track record of investment
:51:46. > :51:48.in skills, in innovation, in research and development in the
:51:49. > :51:51.sector. But these things are independently reviewed. You can't
:51:52. > :51:56.guarantee them. They're competitive... They can expect more
:51:57. > :52:00.help in this regard? I hope they will succeed, they have to apply as
:52:01. > :52:10.other companies and almost every company would do. That has been one
:52:11. > :52:15.of the secrets of our success. But we want to see the whole industry
:52:16. > :52:21.prosper. There are certain suspicions about this deal, not
:52:22. > :52:29.least from Nissan's competitors, why don't you just publish the letter. I
:52:30. > :52:34.can say what it says. Run us through through -- through it. Four key
:52:35. > :52:38.points. Is first is what we talk about, are we going to continue our
:52:39. > :52:43.approach with the sector to have come pet to have and independently
:52:44. > :52:50.assessed funds available to all trainees for training and skills and
:52:51. > :52:56.the rest of it. Michael Wilshaw said that was important. Second, is about
:52:57. > :53:00.place. One of the things that we want to, we have made a commitment
:53:01. > :53:05.to, is whether in Sunderland or whether in the west Midlands, that
:53:06. > :53:11.we regenerate sites to the supply chain, the small and medium sized
:53:12. > :53:16.business that supply the major, in the past many of them have been
:53:17. > :53:19.overseas. There is a joint initiative with the industry to
:53:20. > :53:26.bring them home and we confirmed that continues to be our ambition.
:53:27. > :53:30.The third is a particularly exciting one, which is the future of the
:53:31. > :53:36.automotive sector. We have huge strengths in science and research in
:53:37. > :53:42.this country and the motor industry is changing rapidly. Electric
:53:43. > :53:46.vehicles for example. Dyson are building an electric vehicle? Yes
:53:47. > :53:50.and what Nissan and others wanted to know, is are we committed to being
:53:51. > :53:55.at the leader edge of research and development and we are. The creation
:53:56. > :54:02.of my department that brings energy and industry together is an example
:54:03. > :54:11.of how our leadership in renewable energy is paired. Finally Brexit and
:54:12. > :54:16.the essence is we will achieve to tariff-free trade for you. That what
:54:17. > :54:22.is you're saying. Yes first, to be clear about our, what we want from
:54:23. > :54:26.the negotiations, which is to find common ground between our European
:54:27. > :54:33.neighbours and ourselves and whatever happens, give than we can't
:54:34. > :54:37.know the outcome, that we have through our industrial strategy,
:54:38. > :54:43.which is important to the Japanese in particular, who have long had
:54:44. > :54:49.one, that we make a commitment to keep competitive the United Kingdom
:54:50. > :54:58.industry. They were the assurances that gave confidence that allowed
:54:59. > :55:02.the jobs to be safe-guarded. John McDonnell said he wants the
:55:03. > :55:09.assurances you have given to Nissan to be extended to other
:55:10. > :55:13.manufacturers, can you do that. Yes it is not general. Of course if you
:55:14. > :55:19.think about an industrial strategy, you need to build on your strengths.
:55:20. > :55:24.Automotive is one of our great strengths. Part of our strategy is
:55:25. > :55:29.to keep it. There is more meat here than I was expecting. But I will
:55:30. > :55:33.press you further. If we are talking about a customs-free deal, if we can
:55:34. > :55:37.get one, for manufacturing, we have said we are going to take back
:55:38. > :55:41.control over migration, which means that we can't be part of the
:55:42. > :55:46.Norway-style economic deal. We would have to have a customs union as
:55:47. > :55:52.Turkey and others have. Is that where we are head something That is
:55:53. > :55:58.taking us beyond the territory thafs discussing -- that I was difference
:55:59. > :56:06.cussing with Nissan. That is the logical conKluges. -- conclusion. I
:56:07. > :56:10.think it is important to understand what they want from our negotiation
:56:11. > :56:14.and what will be the interests of the British economy. That is what we
:56:15. > :56:21.are doing. I'm spending time getting from them what nay need. We haven't
:56:22. > :56:26.made decisions on what that is in terms of what we want to achieve. If
:56:27. > :56:30.we want to get some deal, something like a customs union, that is very
:56:31. > :56:33.good for manufacturing, but it doesn't deal with the service
:56:34. > :56:36.sector, which is still the majority of our economy. What is the future
:56:37. > :56:41.do you think for banks and passporting, that is the only big
:56:42. > :56:45.and a huge number of jobs. That is why it seems you need to take it in
:56:46. > :56:49.a considered way to make sure you consider all of the different
:56:50. > :56:57.sectors. Financial services is hugely important. It was ironic that
:56:58. > :57:03.I think John McDonnell said we were completely focussed on financial
:57:04. > :57:08.services on the day we announced, or Nissan announced this. Alongside a
:57:09. > :57:12.customs deal you would need a deal to help the financial services
:57:13. > :57:18.industry? Part of our negotiation has to look across the board at
:57:19. > :57:21.industry and I don't just mean manufacturing, the service sector
:57:22. > :57:26.and creative industries, we need to approach is in in a serious way, get
:57:27. > :57:33.from them what they need and then go into what is... One very final
:57:34. > :57:36.question. If business is looking for certainty, its important that Mark
:57:37. > :57:42.Carney stays for his full-time as governor of the Bank of England? I
:57:43. > :57:45.think Mark Carney has done a tremendous job during his tenure
:57:46. > :57:53.there. It is a decision for him. But I... You. You hope he carries on.
:57:54. > :57:56.Yes. Now Now to find out about
:57:57. > :58:08.what's Now coming up We shadow should we sell arms to
:58:09. > :58:14.Saudi Arabia. And do CCTV cameras keep us safe and a row oob a cake
:58:15. > :58:17.that has nothing to do with the Great British Bake-Off.
:58:18. > :58:19.And that's all we have time for today.
:58:20. > :58:22.Andrew Neil and the Sunday Politics team will be here in an hour,
:58:23. > :58:23.with guests including Iain Duncan Smith.
:58:24. > :58:26.We'll be back next week, when I'll be talking to the winner
:58:27. > :58:29.of this year's Nobel Peace Prize, President Santos of Colombia,
:58:30. > :58:31.as he comes to the UK for a state visit.
:58:32. > :58:59.It took us once to get through the novel Anna Karenina.
:59:00. > :59:02.It was used to help my friend with depression,
:59:03. > :59:08.and finishing as we went to sleep at night.
:59:09. > :59:13.tapping each letter through the wall that divided our cells