:00:00. > :00:13.Times when the bombers who write the news in blood
:00:14. > :00:21.Times when there are serious questions about whether and how
:00:22. > :00:36.The Defence Secretary is here to talk about the fight
:00:37. > :00:43.with IS and why Boris Johnson was wrong to attack the Saudis
:00:44. > :00:51.And as Labour comes 4th in a by-election and has poll
:00:52. > :00:54.ratings last seen under Michael Foot, Shadow Home Secretary
:00:55. > :01:04.Diane Abbott will tell us how on earth Jeremy Corbyn can recover.
:01:05. > :01:08.And should places that voted to Remain in the EU
:01:09. > :01:15.get their own special deal post-Brexit?
:01:16. > :01:17.The Chief Minister of Gibraltar - 97% Remain - is here.
:01:18. > :01:20.We'll hear from two queens of the stage -
:01:21. > :01:23.Juliet Stevenson and Lia Williams - who are spinning a coin
:01:24. > :01:24.every night to decide which of them plays
:01:25. > :01:29.Elizabeth I and which Mary Queen of Scots.
:01:30. > :01:31.And playing out us today with a festive tune,
:01:32. > :01:45.My paper reviewers today, Owen Jones of The Guardian,
:01:46. > :01:47.the Left's leading columnist, The Timess' Tim Montgomerie,
:01:48. > :01:50.the conscience of the Right and star of the sofa, Sarah Baxter,
:01:51. > :01:56.First the news with Christian Fraser.
:01:57. > :02:02.At least 29 people have died and more than 160 have been injured
:02:03. > :02:04.in two bomb blasts in the Turkish city of Istanbul.
:02:05. > :02:07.The explosions happened just hours after the end of a football match
:02:08. > :02:19.In a split second, life in Istanbul is shaken to the core yet again.
:02:20. > :02:21.This TV presenter inside the stadium when the first
:02:22. > :02:32.The attacks believed to have been a car bomb and a suicide bomb struck
:02:33. > :02:35.at the heart of Turkey's biggest city, although the football ground
:02:36. > :02:37.where two of the country's teams had played had already
:02:38. > :02:41.The Government says the car bomb was close to where police
:02:42. > :02:43.were stationed following the match and that the attacks
:02:44. > :02:45.were against the security services and citizens.
:02:46. > :02:48.Turkey has suffered a wave of violence over the last 12 months.
:02:49. > :02:50.Of the injured taken to hospital, 17 are having surgery,
:02:51. > :02:55.No group has yet said it was behind the blasts but ten
:02:56. > :03:02.TRANSLATION: A car that was passing by was remotely detonated.
:03:03. > :03:05.45 seconds later, a man was stopped where policeman were standing
:03:06. > :03:12.Turkey faced two heinous bomb attacks.
:03:13. > :03:15.As more people lose their lives, this country will be
:03:16. > :03:26.wondering when it will emerge from the violence.
:03:27. > :03:28.A church roof has collapsed in Nigeria killing at least 60 people.
:03:29. > :03:30.Hundreds of worshippers were attending a service in
:03:31. > :03:32.Uyo, where a bishop was being ordained.
:03:33. > :03:34.Many people are thought to be trapped under the debris.
:03:35. > :03:36.An investigation will be launched into whether safety
:03:37. > :03:41.The Government is to release previously confidential Home Office
:03:42. > :03:43.files about the so-called Battle of Orgreave in 1984.
:03:44. > :03:49.Clashes broke out when 6,000 police offers were deployed to stop
:03:50. > :03:51.striking miners from blocking deliveries at the coking
:03:52. > :03:56.95 miners were charged with rioting and disorder
:03:57. > :04:04.The Government has ruled out a public inquiry into the incident.
:04:05. > :04:08.The US media is reporting that Donald Trump has chosen the oil
:04:09. > :04:11.executive, Rex Tillerson, to be his Secretary of State.
:04:12. > :04:14.There's been no formal announcement but the two men have met
:04:15. > :04:17.Mr Tillerson, the chief executive of Exxon Mobil,
:04:18. > :04:21.has long-standing business interests with Russia.
:04:22. > :04:24.The next news here on BBC One will be at one o'clock.
:04:25. > :04:36.I'm here because Andy is away for a few days
:04:37. > :04:49.The Sunday Times lead is about Brexit but all minds in journalism
:04:50. > :04:54.is on the face of a a Gill, it says the giant of journalism who died
:04:55. > :04:57.from a very aggressive cancer at the age of 62. The new court case
:04:58. > :05:07.threatening to derail Brexit. The familiar tale which my colleague did
:05:08. > :05:12.a few days ago. The Iraq witchhunt. Witchhunt except paid with public
:05:13. > :05:19.cash. The Observer is on social care. Tory plans making social care
:05:20. > :05:23.worse. An interesting story that we make all pay a lot more in our
:05:24. > :05:32.council tax to avoid that prices in social care. The Sunday mail is
:05:33. > :05:43.having fun. Toxic texts over the PM's trousers. In The People, dad
:05:44. > :05:46.dies after 90 minute wait for ambulance.
:05:47. > :05:51.to look at the big stories of the day.
:05:52. > :06:01.This is a sad morning. A very sad morning. I was not expecting to talk
:06:02. > :06:04.about the death of our beloved colleague, AA Gill. Adrian,
:06:05. > :06:10.characteristically, has had a say himself here. He is on the front
:06:11. > :06:15.page of the magazine talking about his cancer, about his love of the
:06:16. > :06:20.NHS, and some of the problems with getting badly needed drugs within
:06:21. > :06:26.it. He is just the best of us. I cannot believe he is gone. He was
:06:27. > :06:32.the best writer, the funniest, the fiercest. The most compassionate in
:06:33. > :06:37.surprising ways. Extraordinary and gifted man. Because he was so
:06:38. > :06:40.fierce, sometimes to be on the receiving end of AA Gill, a
:06:41. > :06:44.restaurant review or TV review sometimes was pretty painful. It was
:06:45. > :06:49.easy to think he was not a likeable man but those who knew him say that
:06:50. > :06:53.was completely wrong. Some of the reaction on Twitter overnight, some
:06:54. > :06:57.people he has condemned and known to be a critic of said how much in a
:06:58. > :07:09.personal dealings with him they found him to be very warm. This
:07:10. > :07:12.essay in the magazine today is so readable. It is about him, and his
:07:13. > :07:14.struggles with cancer. In terms of commentary on the state of the NHS,
:07:15. > :07:19.its strengths and weaknesses, it is a brilliant political analysis as
:07:20. > :07:25.well. It is talking about what is good at the health service and what
:07:26. > :07:29.is not. It is tragic. Cancer is a terrible illness. Normally you get a
:07:30. > :07:35.long goodbye. This was very short indeed. I have had the honour of
:07:36. > :07:39.being on the receiving end for my overly useful features. I did not
:07:40. > :07:43.often agree with them but I always found his prose is absolutely
:07:44. > :07:48.beautiful. A real loss. I want to say how adored he was by all our
:07:49. > :07:52.colleagues. Everyone, high and low at the Sunday Times were just such a
:07:53. > :07:56.kind and generous person. He mentors so many young journalists as well.
:07:57. > :08:02.Let's talk about some of the stories he would have had a big smile on his
:08:03. > :08:11.face about. Not least the war between the mammy are not supposed
:08:12. > :08:16.to call Boris anymore, he is Mr Johnson and Theresa May. -- the man
:08:17. > :08:19.we are not supposed. There is an interesting account about the
:08:20. > :08:24.behind-the-scenes discussions about the man and the woman who appointed
:08:25. > :08:29.him. Why did you appoint him question he is quoted to say to her,
:08:30. > :08:35.take me as I am, please tried to stop slapping me down because I will
:08:36. > :08:39.not change. Frank Gardner, BBC security correspondent was saying,
:08:40. > :08:43.people in the Gulf region around the world, part of why he is interesting
:08:44. > :08:46.is because they do not know what he will say. They find him an
:08:47. > :08:54.interesting commentator on world affairs. Not many times David and I
:08:55. > :08:58.agree but what he said on Saudi Arabia and the problems with that
:08:59. > :09:01.regime were true. If we cannot get to a point where the Foreign
:09:02. > :09:07.Secretary cannot say some things that are true about our allies,
:09:08. > :09:10.while at the same time maintaining good relations, then that is
:09:11. > :09:15.fundamentally a failure in diplomacy. A bit of your heart soars
:09:16. > :09:21.when someone sticks it to the Saudis. Not the heart of Theresa May
:09:22. > :09:27.ex-commissioner Mark she has a different job to do. I think most of
:09:28. > :09:36.us would like to see a bit more of that. -- the heart of Theresa May!
:09:37. > :09:46.In British politics we do not regret this head chopping dictatorship. It
:09:47. > :09:52.is exporting extreme ship that is when extremism across the world. We
:09:53. > :09:59.have dealt with acrimonious battles, but not so much in the Tories. --
:10:00. > :10:05.exporting extremism across the world. This is from a Tory MP who
:10:06. > :10:12.criticise the expensive trousers of the Prime Minister put it did not go
:10:13. > :10:17.down that well in Number 10. Leather trousers worth ?95. People have been
:10:18. > :10:21.talking about this for weeks. It is a lot for trousers. She has now been
:10:22. > :10:30.banned from meetings and it is all very bitter. The text says, don't
:10:31. > :10:36.bring that woman to Number 10 again. That did not go down well with Nicky
:10:37. > :10:42.Morgan at all. No one brings me to any meeting or if you do not want my
:10:43. > :10:48.views, you will need to tell me. He just did, so there. Very mature.
:10:49. > :10:56.Very grown up. I love that. No man tells me. She has even got a touch
:10:57. > :11:03.of the Doris Johnson these days. People were sceptical about her as a
:11:04. > :11:10.backbench minister. -- Boris Johnson. Part of the problem is that
:11:11. > :11:13.the aids Theresa May had when she was Home Secretary, there was often
:11:14. > :11:18.quite a difficult relationship with David Cameron. They have not
:11:19. > :11:23.adjusted to the fact that Theresa May is in charge and they must be
:11:24. > :11:29.more gracious and more permissive, rather than being so defensive of
:11:30. > :11:39.their boss. Never put anything in a text. You know it will leak.
:11:40. > :11:50.Meanwhile, that is one small bit of lightness in some grim papers. Lyse
:11:51. > :11:55.Doucet in one of the papers about the grim news in Aleppo. 85% of
:11:56. > :12:00.rebel territory has now fallen. When you read about the suffering of the
:12:01. > :12:07.children of Aleppo, we should bear in mind who is causing it. Putin and
:12:08. > :12:11.Russia have a lot to answer for here, as well as President Assad. I
:12:12. > :12:16.know we will be talking about that later. I just want to say, this
:12:17. > :12:23.story is not always on the front page but it will always be in our
:12:24. > :12:28.hearts. That our absolute war crimes going on every day in Aleppo right
:12:29. > :12:33.now. Oris Johnson has had praise this week for telling the truth
:12:34. > :12:37.about Saudi Arabia. Some people think Donald Trump is doing the same
:12:38. > :12:41.about Russia. Forget what you think about Russia, forget what you think
:12:42. > :12:49.about Putin, we must do deals with the man over sorting out IS. Up
:12:50. > :12:55.until yesterday, one of the thoughts we had was that Mitt Romney might be
:12:56. > :13:02.Donald Trump's could trust a. Four years ago during the debates with
:13:03. > :13:07.Obama, he identified Russia as America's strategic number one
:13:08. > :13:10.adversary. We are not going to get Mitt Romney as secretary of state,
:13:11. > :13:15.where going to get an oil billionaire who is very pro-Putin.
:13:16. > :13:26.You are right that we should talk to Putin. There is and article in the
:13:27. > :13:29.Atlantic which catalogues how this former KGB agent, Vladimir Putin,
:13:30. > :13:34.has schemed to undermine the democracies of the West and his
:13:35. > :13:42.plans are now reaching a conclusion. It is a chilling read. In the 20th
:13:43. > :13:47.century, it was Reds under the bed and allied to Moscow for the
:13:48. > :13:50.narrative is the populist right that has descended across the western
:13:51. > :13:55.world which is enamoured with Putin. Whether it is the National Front in
:13:56. > :14:02.France, much of the Ukip, the Italian Northern league. I do not
:14:03. > :14:07.think Jeremy Corbyn's the party would in any way suggest it supports
:14:08. > :14:16.that it Putin. That was part of the row with Peter Tatchell yesterday.
:14:17. > :14:20.People are open about their love for Vladimir Putin. What is disturbing,
:14:21. > :14:24.if you take the National Front in France, they are getting soft loans
:14:25. > :14:34.from National banks will stop it is alarming. I don't want to intrude
:14:35. > :14:39.too much on private grief. Not a great day for Jeremy Corbyn
:14:40. > :14:43.yesterday. There was a suggestion that Clive Lewis quit Shadow
:14:44. > :14:52.Business Secretary, is talking of standing. I know Clyde Lewis. He is
:14:53. > :14:58.a friend of mine. Maybe the two of you could solve the Labour Party. No
:14:59. > :15:02.chance of that whatsoever. There is not a vacancy. He is a rising star
:15:03. > :15:09.for the future. He has a compelling back story. He served in the Army
:15:10. > :15:13.and grew up on a council estate. You do not think he will replace Jeremy
:15:14. > :15:21.Corbyn. There is no way he is plotting to take over. It is totally
:15:22. > :15:26.made up. Words noted. More trouble from the former leader. This is
:15:27. > :15:30.thoughtful from Ed Miliband for the given the focus on the internal rows
:15:31. > :15:37.in labour, we failed to hold the Government to account on the absence
:15:38. > :15:40.of a Brexit plan. This is what Ed Miliband is talking about, access to
:15:41. > :15:49.the single market. We will not be subject to the courts of justice. He
:15:50. > :15:52.is making the point the vast majority of people will not accept
:15:53. > :15:57.any financial cost whatsoever and the argument labour needs to be
:15:58. > :16:00.making is a deal that puts jobs, the economy, and the living standards of
:16:01. > :16:05.the country before anything else. You were one of those people, one of
:16:06. > :16:09.the most powerful people the liver party to go in the direction of a
:16:10. > :16:13.Jeremy Corbyn leadership. 20 people on your side of the argument are
:16:14. > :16:15.beginning to say, maybe it is just simply not going to work. In sadness
:16:16. > :16:27.we need to on. The leadership clearly needs to get
:16:28. > :16:32.its act together. They have at this bust up over the last year and a
:16:33. > :16:37.half. The leadership has made lots of mistakes and need to get their
:16:38. > :16:44.act together. It's not about getting their act together or focusing on
:16:45. > :16:49.Conservatives, it's about focusing on issues that we care about. We
:16:50. > :16:54.will be talking about just that with Diane Abbott in a moment. Thank you
:16:55. > :16:56.very much indeed. Desperate to stay British but just
:16:57. > :16:59.as desperate to stay inside the EU. That is the plight of
:17:00. > :17:02.the people of Gibraltar. Just over 800 of them voted
:17:03. > :17:05.to Leave whilst more Just like the Scots,
:17:06. > :17:18.the Welsh and the Northern Irish, their government wants its voice
:17:19. > :17:20.to be heard before Brexit. Fabian Picardo is the Chief
:17:21. > :17:29.Minister of Gibraltar. Good morning. You are here to talk
:17:30. > :17:34.to parliamentarians, what is your message to them on behalf of the
:17:35. > :17:37.people of Gibraltar? I think the people of Gibraltar have been clear
:17:38. > :17:42.in their expression of the referendum. There's been a number of
:17:43. > :17:49.referendums, also on whether we want to remain British and our wish there
:17:50. > :17:56.is even clearer. Therefore looking at what deal the United Kingdom
:17:57. > :18:04.does, and there will be one UK deal, we mustn't see it as a binary deal,
:18:05. > :18:08.it will be differentiated for different sectors and parts of the
:18:09. > :18:13.UK, it will be a multifaceted deal and one of those facets applies to
:18:14. > :18:17.Gibraltar. Are you saying, just in Scotland are saying we would like a
:18:18. > :18:22.special deal, that Gibraltar is saying we want our own status,
:18:23. > :18:26.whatever the UK as a whole has? What we are saying is different parts of
:18:27. > :18:30.the rules which are today the European rules already applying a
:18:31. > :18:34.different way to Gibraltar. For example we are not part of the
:18:35. > :18:41.Commons Customs union, we have a hard border with Spain because we
:18:42. > :18:45.chose in 1972 not to access the single market in goods. Already
:18:46. > :18:51.there is a different deal for Gibraltar. In the future that must
:18:52. > :18:56.be the case too. You are saying, I think, we want to have free movement
:18:57. > :19:01.even if the rest of the UK does not. That's right. We want to be in the
:19:02. > :19:07.single market even if the rest of the UK is not. That's right. When
:19:08. > :19:11.you talk about the freedom of movement in the UK post-Maastricht
:19:12. > :19:15.you are talking about the establishment in the United Kingdom.
:19:16. > :19:19.Gibraltar is at the bottom of the continent of Europe, it means
:19:20. > :19:23.travelling in and out on the day because people don't tend to
:19:24. > :19:29.establish themselves in Gibraltar but Spanish people come every day to
:19:30. > :19:34.work in Gibraltar, and we are the second biggest employer in
:19:35. > :19:39.Andalusia. There may be a stark choice which may be this, that you
:19:40. > :19:43.have to leave the EU and the single market and abandon freedom of
:19:44. > :19:48.movement whether you like it or not, however many people voted for
:19:49. > :19:53.something different in Gibraltar, or you have to do a deal with Spain
:19:54. > :19:58.over sovereignty and give them some form of shared sovereignty. How
:19:59. > :20:03.would you choose? I don't think it would come to that but if it did, we
:20:04. > :20:07.are not going to change our views on whether we remain British or not. We
:20:08. > :20:12.will continue to stay British even if that seems like a hard choice
:20:13. > :20:17.now. Do you fear that is a game the Spanish might want to play at the
:20:18. > :20:20.last minute, the Spanish Prime Minister talked about planting his
:20:21. > :20:25.flag on Gibraltar. Some believe that that one minute to midnight with
:20:26. > :20:31.negotiations the Spanish will say the whole deal is off unless you
:20:32. > :20:38.give us some shared sovereignty over Gibraltar. That was the last Prime
:20:39. > :20:42.Minister, so Gibraltar hosts thank him for being so open and clear in
:20:43. > :20:48.the wake Spain was going to focus the issue under his period... But
:20:49. > :20:52.there is a risk that can't could be played? There is a risk Spain could
:20:53. > :20:57.fail to be sensible in its approach because it is at much at risk for
:20:58. > :21:07.them to have a Gibraltar that continues to provide jobs. If they
:21:08. > :21:15.play that card, it would be in other areas as well. And we have this
:21:16. > :21:20.conversation with Theresa May? Yes, I have spoken to Theresa May and
:21:21. > :21:24.Boris Johnson, they are listening, we are participating in the
:21:25. > :21:26.committee on Gibraltar specifically and I think it's going very well
:21:27. > :21:31.indeed. Thank you for joining us. We may all be hearing
:21:32. > :21:33.the sounds of winter - of snow and sleighs and Santa,
:21:34. > :21:35.but we've been feeling So, what's the weather got
:21:36. > :21:48.in store for us next week? It has been really mild over the
:21:49. > :21:51.last week or so, after that cold start of December temperatures have
:21:52. > :21:57.been rising. Actually today it is looking a little bit cooler than it
:21:58. > :22:03.has done over recent days. A cooler air mass across the country but
:22:04. > :22:07.drier and brighter too. Today it is back to sunny skies. Further north
:22:08. > :22:11.across the country, a little bit more cloud so any sunshine will be
:22:12. > :22:16.hazy and we have some mist and fog patches slow to clear towards the
:22:17. > :22:20.south. Temperatures around nine or 10 degrees so feel unpleasant enough
:22:21. > :22:24.with the light winds and sunshine. This evening and overnight we will
:22:25. > :22:30.see some dense fog patches forming over the south-west of England,
:22:31. > :22:32.Wales too, and later in the night that missed and Fox working more
:22:33. > :22:39.widely across Wales from southern England too. We have more cloud and
:22:40. > :22:44.a breeze around too but the chilly start a Monday morning and a grey,
:22:45. > :22:49.murky day. That fog is slow to clear, then drizzly outbreaks of
:22:50. > :22:56.rain in western areas. The scenarios staying dry with some brightness but
:22:57. > :22:59.it will feel cool at 6-12 . For the week ahead, it is unsettled picture
:23:00. > :23:02.and temperatures will stay reasonably mild for the time of
:23:03. > :23:05.year. Thank you very much indeed.
:23:06. > :23:08.Stop the infighting, pull together and back our leader,
:23:09. > :23:12.That was the message three months ago when Jeremy Corbyn was fighting
:23:13. > :23:17.Yesterday's Guardian pointed to the party's dismal by-election
:23:18. > :23:19.performance and poll ratings showing stagnation tipping towards decline
:23:20. > :23:22.as part of a deeper malaise in which Labour were offering no
:23:23. > :23:26.The Shadow Home Secretary, Diane Abbott, is one
:23:27. > :23:40.Good morning. Is this a day to be honest with people, to say it is
:23:41. > :23:45.bad, not what we hoped for three months ago, but we will sort it? We
:23:46. > :23:48.have gone through a very difficult year as you know and it was always
:23:49. > :23:53.going to take time to pull round from that. The recent by-election
:23:54. > :23:58.result was disappointing but we are coming together now, we have a new
:23:59. > :24:01.Chief Whip, Nick Brown, one of the most experienced party managers in
:24:02. > :24:08.the House of Commons, and I think that as we come together, as you
:24:09. > :24:12.hear less noises off, I believe we can close the polling gap. I saying
:24:13. > :24:18.the reason for this dismal by-election result, 10% of the vote,
:24:19. > :24:24.you came fourth, remember under Tony Blair it was 34% of the vote, are
:24:25. > :24:28.you saying this is the continuing legacy of disunity? There is a limit
:24:29. > :24:33.to what you can extrapolate from by-election results and both of
:24:34. > :24:38.these were once we could never have expected to win but the most recent
:24:39. > :24:45.one... You did worse than Ed Miliband did, much worse than Tony
:24:46. > :24:49.Blair. Reports of the Labour Party's demise are much saturated. We are
:24:50. > :24:53.the largest social Democratic party in Europe and the huge surge in
:24:54. > :25:00.membership is due to the current leadership. We have the right
:25:01. > :25:06.policies on the NHS, on investing in the economy and the Tories are
:25:07. > :25:10.fatally split on Europe. It consumed John Major's midship, David Cameron
:25:11. > :25:14.and I believe it will consume Theresa May. Many people knocking on
:25:15. > :25:18.the doorsteps in Richmond, where you have fewer votes than members, in
:25:19. > :25:21.Sleaford where you got less than a third of the number of votes than
:25:22. > :25:28.Tony Blair got, one of the reasons many said was a confusion on the
:25:29. > :25:34.doorstep in answer to a simple question and - are you in favour of
:25:35. > :25:39.Brexit or in favour of stopping it? We are in favour of respecting the
:25:40. > :25:43.votes of people who voted for Brexit. It would be damaging to
:25:44. > :25:48.dismiss those votes in the way the Lib Dems are. It can work for the
:25:49. > :25:55.Lib Dems in seats like Richmond, it won't work nationally. We are also
:25:56. > :25:58.in favour of getting the best possible negotiating deal. We are in
:25:59. > :26:05.favour of what is good for the British people. It is not a simple
:26:06. > :26:11.position, is it? If you knock on a doorstep and someone wants to know
:26:12. > :26:15.which camp you are in. One of your MPs yesterday, Steve Reid, said you
:26:16. > :26:21.risk being the party of 0% because if you are one of the levers, 52%,
:26:22. > :26:27.you might want to go off and vote for someone who really wants to
:26:28. > :26:31.leave. The Lib Dems for example, who are desperate to stay. I miss you
:26:32. > :26:38.job my raw of Steve but he is wrong on this. What we have got to do is
:26:39. > :26:42.not just speak for the 40%, or for the 52%, but bring the country
:26:43. > :26:48.together and hold the Tories to account. One of the things that's
:26:49. > :26:53.happening is the Tories are completely mishandling Brexit. All
:26:54. > :26:58.Theresa May can say is Brexit means Brexit. We want to be clear about
:26:59. > :27:02.how Labour will handle this in the future, particularly if the Supreme
:27:03. > :27:06.Court rules against the Government. Are you saying to people we will
:27:07. > :27:10.block it if we don't get our way on workers' rights and other things, or
:27:11. > :27:15.are you saying because we respect the will of the people we will vote
:27:16. > :27:20.for this come what May? We won't block this in a trivial way, but if
:27:21. > :27:24.we lose access to the single market let alone the customs union that
:27:25. > :27:30.would be a huge blow to the British economy. So in those circumstances
:27:31. > :27:36.you might block it? No, block sounds like we are being wilful. We will
:27:37. > :27:40.make the case for what's right for the British economy. You know that
:27:41. > :27:44.all oppositions can do in Parliament, because usually they
:27:45. > :27:48.lose votes, all you can do in the end, whatever your view is on
:27:49. > :27:53.anything, is try to slow business down or defeat the Government and
:27:54. > :27:58.I'm asking you the bottom line, ie when the end willing to frustrate
:27:59. > :28:02.Brexit if Labour doesn't get the things it thinks is important? Just
:28:03. > :28:06.last week Keir Starmer. Theresa May to do something she had sworn she
:28:07. > :28:11.would not do and come forward with her negotiating programme, some sort
:28:12. > :28:14.of white paper so we believe that step-by-step we can shed light on
:28:15. > :28:21.what the Tories are doing and hold it up for the public to take a view.
:28:22. > :28:24.I'm no clearer on whether you will frustrate Brexit some instances or
:28:25. > :28:32.never. You make it sound like we are playing a game. What are you
:28:33. > :28:35.prepared to do? We are not trying to play a game, we are trying to get
:28:36. > :28:40.the best outcome for the British people. One of the things you say is
:28:41. > :28:44.important is access to the single market, that means freedom of
:28:45. > :28:48.movement, doesn't it? So are you saying to your supporters it is
:28:49. > :28:56.economically in your interest to keep freedom of movement? Access to
:28:57. > :29:00.the single market and freedom of movement are inextricably linked and
:29:01. > :29:07.it would be wrong to put the economy anything other than first. So in
:29:08. > :29:11.other words yes, you have to stick with free movement. That is going to
:29:12. > :29:15.be in the negotiation but it is misleading to suggest to people that
:29:16. > :29:20.we can access the single market and just dump freedom of movement. The
:29:21. > :29:25.Swiss had to keep a measure of freedom of movement, as did the
:29:26. > :29:31.Norwegians. This is why people talk about confusion, the man running the
:29:32. > :29:34.mayor, Andy Burnham, said the freedom of movement has been
:29:35. > :29:43.defeated at the ballot box, it is no longer an option. You are saying it
:29:44. > :29:48.is. We believe in regional autonomy and Andy has always had those fields
:29:49. > :29:52.but the truth is you cannot have access to the single market without
:29:53. > :29:56.a measure of freedom of movement. Carwyn Jones is the leader of the
:29:57. > :29:59.Labour Party in Wales and accuses you of having a very London centric
:30:00. > :30:05.position, this is not the way people see it outside London. Wales and the
:30:06. > :30:09.West Country and the north-east are some of the parts of the country
:30:10. > :30:16.that have the most to lose by coming out... He is the First Minister, the
:30:17. > :30:20.leader of the party in Wales. I know, but I'm saying that some of
:30:21. > :30:24.the areas that were most pro-Brexit are some of the errors we need to
:30:25. > :30:29.fight for in terms of investment and protecting British industry. Though
:30:30. > :30:34.as an inner London MP you know more than the leader of the party of
:30:35. > :30:40.Wales or the man running for mayor of Manchester? If you are talking
:30:41. > :30:43.about immigration in my experience is Labour Party members want
:30:44. > :30:48.immigration rules that are fair and reasonable management of migration.
:30:49. > :30:56.Do believe that people who want freedom of movement want to see less
:30:57. > :31:05.foreign looking people? There is that element. Does Andy Burnham
:31:06. > :31:12.think that? Or the leader of Wales think that? I do not park all the
:31:13. > :31:18.people who voted for Brexit with the same brush. You have to
:31:19. > :31:25.understand... The people who complain about freedom of movement
:31:26. > :31:29.complain about foreign looking people. People are very frightened
:31:30. > :31:34.about this debate on Brexit. One of the things we want to do is to
:31:35. > :31:39.secure the position of EU residents living here. People are frightened
:31:40. > :31:44.and they need reassurance. You have promised at the beginning of the
:31:45. > :31:48.interview to close the polling gap. When? If it does not happen but most
:31:49. > :31:53.of the critics of Jeremy Corbyn you can dismiss as lifelong enemies. You
:31:54. > :31:59.are a great friend. Is that there a moment when even Diane Abbott looks
:32:00. > :32:05.and says, maybe this simply is not working? We have had a pretty
:32:06. > :32:14.difficult 12 months. We have the right policies. When? Within 12
:32:15. > :32:16.months. It will get better in 12 months. Thank you custom-built talk
:32:17. > :32:20.to you again on the sofa later. Watch a coin spin and it's almost
:32:21. > :32:22.impossible to stop yourself guessing, hoping even,
:32:23. > :32:24.that it will come down Imagine, then, what it must be
:32:25. > :32:28.like if you're an actor who's just taken to the stage and know
:32:29. > :32:31.that the way the coin falls will decide which part you play over
:32:32. > :32:34.the next three hours. That's what Juliet Stevenson
:32:35. > :32:36.and Lia Williams are doing every night as they play two queens -
:32:37. > :32:39.Elizabeth I and her deadly rival Mary Queen of Scots
:32:40. > :32:43.in a brilliant new production of Schiller's great play
:32:44. > :32:45."Mary Stuart" which I was lucky The coin got
:32:46. > :32:50.the audience's pulses racing - The pulse kind of jumps out
:32:51. > :33:03.of your skin and it's It's kind of great because the set
:33:04. > :33:09.looks, feels, very much It's circular and the audience
:33:10. > :33:15.kind of hugs the set. Then the coin is tossed
:33:16. > :33:21.in a circular, bronze bowl There's this kind of level
:33:22. > :33:25.of tension in the audience which we feel palpably,
:33:26. > :33:30.and we kind of lock onto each other Do you end up, Juliet,
:33:31. > :33:34.thinking I hope it's I had only one ambition really,
:33:35. > :33:44.which was not to have a preference. I thought, it would just be
:33:45. > :33:47.a nightmare if, when the coin is spinning, my heart
:33:48. > :33:49.is in my mouth, saying, So, my ambition is to feel equally
:33:50. > :33:54.happy about whichever I think, the truth is,
:33:55. > :33:59.you always love the Queen, So, it's sort of like having two
:34:00. > :34:06.simultaneous love affairs, which I've never had,
:34:07. > :34:09.but it would be Presumably you're just in love
:34:10. > :34:14.with the person you're with at that moment
:34:15. > :34:16.and then you shift. What's fascinating is they really do
:34:17. > :34:21.feel like one person. Did you think when you were first
:34:22. > :34:27.told by the director, did you think, this is a gimmick,
:34:28. > :34:31.a huge challenge? Was it clear there
:34:32. > :34:37.was a point to it? I thought it was a gimmick,
:34:38. > :34:39.a fun gimmick, very challenging and exciting and
:34:40. > :34:41.therefore said, yes. I thought, secretly,
:34:42. > :34:43.this is a gimmick. I don't think that any longer
:34:44. > :34:51.at all because the more I looked into and read, or we read,
:34:52. > :34:54.about these two queens' lives, an element of chance
:34:55. > :34:56.was an extraordinary strong In the play, Elizabeth
:34:57. > :35:01.is on the throne and Mary has been Elizabeth spent her
:35:02. > :35:07.childhood growing up. Her father Henry VIII had passed
:35:08. > :35:10.two Acts of Succession, naming her a be said and outlawing
:35:11. > :35:13.her, and she was brought up under house arrest and in the Tower some
:35:14. > :35:20.of the time and so on. So, she had a terrible childhood,
:35:21. > :35:23.was more or less a prisoner, while Mary was Queen of Scotland
:35:24. > :35:27.from the age of six days old. So, the element of chance played
:35:28. > :35:30.a huge role in both their lives. The main example of that is that
:35:31. > :35:32.when Mary fled Scotland after the debacle with Rothwell
:35:33. > :35:36.and the murder of Darnely and so on, she was heading for France,
:35:37. > :35:40.where she would have been safe. But the wind changed and blew her
:35:41. > :35:43.ship onto the English coast, so she had to ask for asylum,
:35:44. > :35:46.as it were, in England, I think that's where the coin
:35:47. > :35:52.spin is not a gimmick, It frames the story in a wave
:35:53. > :35:59.which is really interesting. The role of populism,
:36:00. > :36:02.the role of public opinion and how someone in power reacts to that
:36:03. > :36:06.flows through this play. You can see the audience
:36:07. > :36:08.living it in this year, which has been a year
:36:09. > :36:11.like none other. One of the most extraordinary
:36:12. > :36:15.resonances between the play and modern time is that this idea
:36:16. > :36:19.that what seems to be the case, what appears to be
:36:20. > :36:24.the case, becomes reality. So, in the Brexit campaign we're
:36:25. > :36:27.told ?350 million will go to the NHS and people vote
:36:28. > :36:30.according to that pledge. As soon as the vote goes through,
:36:31. > :36:34.that promise disappears, Trump's campaign built
:36:35. > :36:44.on all sorts of constructs and promises and pledges
:36:45. > :36:46.that again magically disappear The idea that seeming and appearance
:36:47. > :36:52.and spin and PR is basically what is controlling the electorate
:36:53. > :36:57.and that does not have to be maintained or
:36:58. > :37:00.supported in the event. The difference between seeming
:37:01. > :37:03.and reality, there's a line which Elizabeth says, when she says,
:37:04. > :37:05."the way that things People don't look deeper,
:37:06. > :37:12.don't dig down in to the complex, narrow-sighted truth of things,
:37:13. > :37:16.that's her line. That's a very resonant,
:37:17. > :37:20.shouting line and theme in the play, You're not content with playing two
:37:21. > :37:26.queens, you're also playing a woman who might have been Queen,
:37:27. > :37:30.Wallis Simpson, in The Crown. She too, it seems to me,
:37:31. > :37:33.you've turned into, or the production has turned into,
:37:34. > :37:37.a character with whom we're more Peter Morgan has quite cleverly -
:37:38. > :37:47.and interestingly - drawn the facade away and sort
:37:48. > :37:49.of dug a little bit deeper into who he might
:37:50. > :37:54.think these people were. You must have been
:37:55. > :37:56.thrilled, Your Highness. What made you choose
:37:57. > :38:14.this particular house? It has a two acre park which gives
:38:15. > :38:19.us privacy and its size means the Duke and I can
:38:20. > :38:22.finally entertain properly. I believe I had it agreed
:38:23. > :38:29.as part of the deal that you would give our readers some
:38:30. > :38:32.tips for entertaining. It fascinated me when I started
:38:33. > :38:42.researching Wallis Anybody's reaction, even last night,
:38:43. > :38:46.summary came to the play and said, I never, ever felt that
:38:47. > :38:55.when I was doing research on her. Maybe we have to find the things
:38:56. > :39:05.we love in order to be Your Majesties both,
:39:06. > :39:12.thank you very much indeed. And 'Mary Stuart' is
:39:13. > :39:17.at the Almeida Theatre The war on terror was
:39:18. > :39:30.launched 15 years ago. Yet if it ever was a war,
:39:31. > :39:33.the West seems to be Last night's bombs in Istanbul,
:39:34. > :39:36.whoever's responsible for them, The Defence Secretary
:39:37. > :39:47.Michael Fallon is here. Good morning. Good morning. My very
:39:48. > :39:51.best wishes to andrez he continues his recovery. The good news is he
:39:52. > :39:56.will be back in this chair next week. -- Andrew. We don't know who
:39:57. > :40:01.carried out this attack. Perhaps it is a reminder to us of the way in
:40:02. > :40:04.which complex in the Middle East can easily and are easily spilling over
:40:05. > :40:08.into the streets of Europe. Our thoughts must be with the Turkish
:40:09. > :40:14.people this morning another appalling atrocity in Istanbul shows
:40:15. > :40:18.why we need to keep Turkey close as a member of Nato and why we need to
:40:19. > :40:25.work with Turkey. The minister will be in London where I will be hosting
:40:26. > :40:31.account terrorism meeting to discuss progress in Iraq and Syria. We will
:40:32. > :40:36.be reviewing where we have got to, mapping out plans for longer term
:40:37. > :40:41.peace in Iraq and the next phase of the operation in Syria. We are just
:40:42. > :40:47.hearing there has been another bomb in Egypt. This conference, we often
:40:48. > :40:57.hear said, in the United States and elsewhere, we are winning the war
:40:58. > :41:09.with IS, isn't the evidence of them taking over at pal Meera, proving
:41:10. > :41:14.they are very resilient? -- Palmyra. They are now down to their last 10%.
:41:15. > :41:20.We will be reviewing progress on Thursday of the operation in Mosul.
:41:21. > :41:25.They are well into Mozilla the moment. The campaign in Syria is
:41:26. > :41:29.more difficult. On Friday, the Syrian Democratic forces started
:41:30. > :41:39.their advance on Mac, the other great capital that Daesh is hanging
:41:40. > :41:43.on to put that they are the biggest threat to western Europe and
:41:44. > :41:48.Britain. Do you not find yourself wanting to sprinkle quite a lot of
:41:49. > :41:52.scepticism on them when you first became Defence Secretary in 2014?
:41:53. > :41:59.The briefings you had, Mosul is about to fall. We are going to take
:42:00. > :42:03.it. It is a crucial city. Still not taken. They had swept through Syria
:42:04. > :42:09.and Iraq. Now they are being pushed through Iraq thanks largely to the
:42:10. > :42:13.coalition. Britain is playing a leading part. The coalition has
:42:14. > :42:19.carried out 25,000 strikes and the British Army has trained Iraqi and
:42:20. > :42:23.Kurdish soldiers. The aria is continuing to work on these targets
:42:24. > :42:30.and opening up the advance to Mosul and now on rack. Is it time to
:42:31. > :42:34.express a painful truth and say to people, the battle against IS, as
:42:35. > :42:42.you put it, the battle against Daesh is so important. We must get all our
:42:43. > :42:46.other concerns. We are going to get into bed with Russia and Vladimir
:42:47. > :42:50.Putin and once and for all take this battle to them. Putin has been doing
:42:51. > :42:55.something very different. He has been propping up the Assad regime
:42:56. > :42:59.and helping them to bomb his opponents in Aleppo, bombing
:43:00. > :43:04.hospitals, preventing humanitarian aid getting through and prolonging
:43:05. > :43:09.the civil war. That makes it more difficult. Aleppo is about to fall,
:43:10. > :43:16.isn't it? It looks as if Aleppo will fall. Will it not be better to say,
:43:17. > :43:21.let it go? Assad is winning, Putin is winning, we might as well accept
:43:22. > :43:26.that reality and move on to IS. How can you be winning by bombing
:43:27. > :43:35.hospitals, locking humanitarian aid convoys? The regime is still opposed
:43:36. > :43:38.by most of his people. That is not a victory. On the contrary, we keep
:43:39. > :43:43.appealing to Russia to use its influence to get this civil war
:43:44. > :43:47.stopped and to help us rebuild Syria with a government that can appeal to
:43:48. > :43:54.all the people in Syria and then get on with the task of dealing with
:43:55. > :43:58.Daesh. You're prepared to appeal to the new at American Administration,
:43:59. > :44:06.when you say let's do a deal with cute in, week, Britain, will hold
:44:07. > :44:09.out. -- Putin. We have been welcoming the appointment of the new
:44:10. > :44:17.Defence Secretary, who is to us here. Very highly respected. He was
:44:18. > :44:22.a former Nato commander. We know him well and will be working with him.
:44:23. > :44:27.On talking to Putin, there are things we have to talk to Russia
:44:28. > :44:33.about, to de-escalate tension and explain the purpose of our
:44:34. > :44:36.deployment in Nato and reassured the eastern members of Nato and
:44:37. > :44:41.encourage Russia to use its influence where has that implements.
:44:42. > :44:46.One of the countries is Syria. It cannot be business as usual. We are
:44:47. > :44:52.talking about the man who looks set to be the next Secretary of State.
:44:53. > :44:57.He was awarded in person by Vladimir Putin the Russian order of
:44:58. > :45:01.friendship. He opposed sanctions when Russia moved into Crimea. This
:45:02. > :45:06.argument in the United States you have already lost. I will not
:45:07. > :45:10.comment on an appointment which has not yet been made. Would you like to
:45:11. > :45:15.work with anyone who has had an order of friendship with Vladimir
:45:16. > :45:18.Putin? I am willing to work with the new secretary of defence, who's a
:45:19. > :45:24.permit has been widely welcomed by the US military and all our allies
:45:25. > :45:27.in Nato to be strong against Russian aggression towards Nato
:45:28. > :45:34.anti-escalate tensions and continue to work with Russia on how we get
:45:35. > :45:38.towards a settlement in Syria. That cannot be treating Russia as an
:45:39. > :45:43.equal. It is a strategic competitor to the west. Talking of friends and
:45:44. > :45:46.painful truths, let's turn to the Foreign Secretary and what he said.
:45:47. > :45:53.Wasn't Boris Johnson telling the painful truth?
:45:54. > :46:01.When he spoke about Saudi Arabia earlier in the week? He is promoting
:46:02. > :46:04.British interests around the world, setting out the new, bigger
:46:05. > :46:11.international role we expect to play when we have left the European
:46:12. > :46:15.Union. I'm sorry, I paused because I thought you are going to tell me if
:46:16. > :46:20.he was or wasn't speaking the truth. He said Saudi Arabia twists and
:46:21. > :46:23.abuses religion. The Government said he was not speaking for the
:46:24. > :46:30.Government. So it is your view, is it, that Saudi Arabia does not twist
:46:31. > :46:34.and abuse religion? The way some of his remarks were reported seemed to
:46:35. > :46:43.imply we didn't support the right of Saudi Arabia to defend itself, and
:46:44. > :46:48.it's being attacked by Houthi rebels across the border from Yemen. Some
:46:49. > :46:56.of the reporting lead people to think that... It was simply the way
:46:57. > :46:59.it was reported. The wait was interpreted left people with the
:47:00. > :47:05.impression that we didn't support Saudi Arabia and we do. He is making
:47:06. > :47:10.that clear by the way in Saudi Arabia today, where he is. So we can
:47:11. > :47:13.assume he was speaking for the Government when he said Saudi Arabia
:47:14. > :47:21.twisted and abused religions and indeed were puppeteers and fought
:47:22. > :47:25."Proxy wars". So that is the view of the Government? The Government is
:47:26. > :47:30.clear that Saudi Arabia is entitled to defend itself from the attacks
:47:31. > :47:37.across the border, it's had its cities in Saudi Arabia shelled by
:47:38. > :47:41.the Houthis and its leading the coalition to restore the legitimate
:47:42. > :47:45.government of Yemen. If Downing Street issue a statement saying the
:47:46. > :47:50.Foreign Secretary is not speaking for the Government, and you are
:47:51. > :47:54.saying he was misquoted, who are we to believe? You have a big
:47:55. > :47:59.personality like Boris who makes speeches all around the world, there
:48:00. > :48:04.is a danger this get over textual light. Downing Street was asked what
:48:05. > :48:07.the policy is so far as Saudi Arabia's right to defend itself and
:48:08. > :48:15.we are clear on that. Saudi Arabia is fully entitled defend itself from
:48:16. > :48:22.missile attacks over the border. Let's talk about the war in Newman.
:48:23. > :48:24.Do you believe that you as Defence Secretary there any moral
:48:25. > :48:29.responsibility for the fact there are thousands of dead in that
:48:30. > :48:33.country, 3 million displaced, so many close to starvation? We have
:48:34. > :48:39.seen the terrible civil war in Yemen and we want that to come to an end
:48:40. > :48:49.through the United Nations process. Do we bear any moral responsibility
:48:50. > :48:52.for it? They are restoring the legitimate government of Yemen. We
:48:53. > :48:58.have an interest in seeing this civil War brought to an end and the
:48:59. > :49:03.Houthis defeated. I think you are saying we don't have moral
:49:04. > :49:06.responsibility. They are our planes, our military advisers and our people
:49:07. > :49:11.doing the training of the pilots that drop the bombs and yet I'm
:49:12. > :49:16.unclear on whether you are saying quite right too, this is a war that
:49:17. > :49:21.needs to be fought and won or if you are saying this is all very
:49:22. > :49:28.regrettable. They share intelligence with us, on intelligence plots to
:49:29. > :49:33.this country, they are key investor in this country and a key export
:49:34. > :49:36.markets, Saudi Arabia is a friend of this country and fully entitled to
:49:37. > :49:41.defend itself and also entitled to help bring about a settlement in
:49:42. > :49:45.Yemen that restores the legitimate government and that has the support
:49:46. > :49:50.of the United Nations. Are you saying in effect we need to be
:49:51. > :50:00.scared of telling the whole truth about Saudi Arabia, because it might
:50:01. > :50:03.make us less safe on the streets? We take up human rights issues all
:50:04. > :50:06.around the world, we take that up with the Government but it's not a
:50:07. > :50:11.binary choice between saying we will never deal with you again. We cannot
:50:12. > :50:15.keep moralising in public about Saudi Arabia. If you want to bring
:50:16. > :50:19.about change there, you have got to work with Saudi Arabia and we are
:50:20. > :50:23.doing that. The Prime Minister was meeting the King earlier this week
:50:24. > :50:27.discussing future reforms that are needed in Saudi Arabia to their
:50:28. > :50:35.economy, to their society, as to how they reduce their dependence on oil
:50:36. > :50:37.and increase their private sector and provide more jobs for their
:50:38. > :50:42.young people. Oris Johnson is there today so will he in effect be saying
:50:43. > :50:48.to them, I think you twist and abuse religion, I think you fight proxy
:50:49. > :50:52.wars? Or will he have learnt diplomacy? He will be reminding them
:50:53. > :50:59.we support Saudi Arabia, as I've said several times. I don't want you
:51:00. > :51:04.to repeat it, you can say something else instead. Is it time to call the
:51:05. > :51:08.dogs off Boris Johnson? No, as I've said, he's a huge personality,
:51:09. > :51:17.famous around the world. I sit next to him in meetings in brush --
:51:18. > :51:21.Brussels and Washington and everybody wants to know his opinion.
:51:22. > :51:24.You know and I know this is a story not because of what Boris Johnson
:51:25. > :51:29.said but because of what Downing Street said. How would you feel as
:51:30. > :51:33.Defence Secretary or many of the other jobs you have done if Number
:51:34. > :51:41.Ten issued a statement saying that is wrong, it is not the Government's
:51:42. > :51:45.view? Downing Street was asked whether this misreporting of what
:51:46. > :51:48.Boris had said, whether that was government policy and Downing Street
:51:49. > :51:57.simply answered the question, and the question is... The answer is we
:51:58. > :52:00.support Saudi Arabia. Downing Street looked at an inaccurate quote,
:52:01. > :52:06.rejected their Foreign Secretary without checking with him first.
:52:07. > :52:11.That tells you a lot. You really are making a meal of this. Boris's
:52:12. > :52:16.comment was taken out of context in the reporting that implied we didn't
:52:17. > :52:22.support Saudi Arabia. Downing Street was asked the question and answer
:52:23. > :52:24.did. He is free to speak, as are you. We will see you on the sofa in
:52:25. > :52:26.a short time. Thank you. Andrew Neil will be here
:52:27. > :52:30.with the Sunday Politics, when former London mayor
:52:31. > :52:32.Ken Livingstone will be discussing Labour's by-election performance
:52:33. > :52:34.with the former Shadow Chancellor and Jeremy Corbyn-critic
:52:35. > :52:35.Chris Leslie. And following that Commons vote
:52:36. > :52:38.on the Government's Brexit strategy, Andrew will be talking to the lone
:52:39. > :52:40.Conservative rebel Ken Clarke about the new
:52:41. > :52:43.Tory awkward squad. And Sir Michael Fallon and Diane
:52:44. > :53:01.Abbott are with me once again. What did you make of what you were
:53:02. > :53:05.hearing, particularly on Saudi Arabia? Michael Fallon did a very
:53:06. > :53:08.professional job trying to gloss over the split between the Foreign
:53:09. > :53:11.Secretary and the Prime Minister, but in over 20 years in Parliament
:53:12. > :53:16.I've never heard of Foreign Secretary slapped down the way
:53:17. > :53:22.Theresa May slapped down Boris. However, you have to say that on
:53:23. > :53:25.Saudi, Boris is right. They are pursuing proxy wars, particularly in
:53:26. > :53:30.Yemen and there is an issue we are selling arms to them and they may be
:53:31. > :53:37.involved in human rights abuses. You were together in the voting lobbies,
:53:38. > :53:43.voting for Brexit and for a plan. Can you help us, what is a plant? Is
:53:44. > :53:51.it a single sheet of paper like that? Or is this sort of thing, a
:53:52. > :53:55.government White Paper? This was an extraordinary vote this week, tabled
:53:56. > :54:00.by the Labour Party, ended up uniting the Tory party and splitting
:54:01. > :54:06.Labour, 23 Labour MPs voted against their own party so that was not a
:54:07. > :54:11.success. Which do we get? You will see the plan when it is published in
:54:12. > :54:14.the New Year. It is to maximise the security cooperation we have in
:54:15. > :54:20.dealing with terrorism, to maximise the goods and services we can sell
:54:21. > :54:23.to the remaining 27 countries, and crucially to regain control over
:54:24. > :54:27.immigration. Diane I don't think made that clear whether she will
:54:28. > :54:33.support that when it comes to the detail of the negotiation or not. We
:54:34. > :54:37.will support what is in the best interests of the country. What
:54:38. > :54:43.people want is White Paper. I think what Theresa May thinks she can get
:54:44. > :54:55.away with is one side of a fork. So you want full document spelling out
:54:56. > :54:58.the options? -- one side of A4. We are taking this step-by-step. We
:54:59. > :55:05.want to know what the plan is, the Brexit is Brexit thing is old and
:55:06. > :55:09.cold. We heard from the Chief Minister of Gibraltar saying we want
:55:10. > :55:14.special status, they said they want freedom of movement and need to have
:55:15. > :55:22.membership of the single market, prepared to look at that? Gibraltar
:55:23. > :55:27.is also this special status -- always this special status and the
:55:28. > :55:30.European treaties have made special provision for Gibraltar, and like
:55:31. > :55:35.the other overseas territories we have that will have to be looked at.
:55:36. > :55:45.It is a possibility. If it is going to be looked at, you will need a
:55:46. > :55:48.plan longer than a sheet of A4. It will be longer than that, but why
:55:49. > :55:54.don't we have a plan from Labour on whether they want us to regain
:55:55. > :55:59.control over immigration or not. We want clarity on the thousands of EU
:56:00. > :56:09.immigrants who are living here, who are very frightened, who you want to
:56:10. > :56:15.use as a pawn. We quite want clarity from both of you as to what we will
:56:16. > :56:19.be looking at. It will become clear in due course. We will be publishing
:56:20. > :56:22.a plan and I don't think you will find that from Labour.
:56:23. > :56:27.Andrew will be back next Sunday at 9am on BBC One
:56:28. > :56:30.Our guests will include Doctor Who himself, Peter Capaldi.
:56:31. > :56:33.For now, to get you into the Christmas mood, one
:56:34. > :56:35.of the great folk voices, Kate Rusby and band
:56:36. > :56:57.# Tolling the bell of our Saviour dear
:56:58. > :57:01.# With this message of truth # All the merry bands of Christmas
:57:02. > :57:10.ring # Sound so sweet and gay
:57:11. > :57:18.# May bring you joy and gladness on every Christmas Day
:57:19. > :57:29.# Carols and choirs filled the air with the joyful sound of hymns
:57:30. > :57:36.# And fairies joy today with the song that we sing
:57:37. > :57:42.# Will the joy of merry Christmas bands sing the sound so sweet and
:57:43. > :57:44.gay # May you know joy and gladness on
:57:45. > :58:17.every Christmas Day # Peace to the world and peace to
:58:18. > :58:25.man is the sound of dear bells ring # Nations will follow with this song
:58:26. > :58:30.the angels sing # All the merry bells of Christmas
:58:31. > :58:35.ring so sweet and gay # May you know true joy and gladness
:58:36. > :58:45.on every Christmas Day