07/05/2017

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:00:08. > :00:10.So, at last, some real meat - some detailed policies

:00:11. > :00:13.in the election campaign - and not just details,

:00:14. > :00:17.the biggest issues of all: how much tax you will be paying

:00:18. > :00:20.and how confident you can be about the National Health Service

:00:21. > :00:54.And the Tory record on the NHS. What of Labour's tax plans? Jeremy

:00:55. > :00:57.Corbyn's left hand man and #145ed owe Chancellor on-Mc

:00:58. > :01:06.Also today, the Archbishop of York, John Sentamu, on the dangers

:01:07. > :01:14.of interrogating politicians too closely on their faith.

:01:15. > :01:26.I don't think anybody has a right to interpret and read the mind of the

:01:27. > :01:28.person as Elizabeth the I said, we do not have a window into people's

:01:29. > :01:29.souls. Plus, during times when we focus

:01:30. > :01:32.on bad behaviour in public life, Imelda Staunton and Conleth Hill

:01:33. > :01:35.on a raw and still shocking play about drunkenness

:01:36. > :01:36.and family collapse. And we have music from one of the

:01:37. > :01:50.UK's biggest new acts, # When I heard that sound

:01:51. > :01:54.# When the walls came down # I was thinking about you

:01:55. > :01:56.# About you... . # The political editor of Buzzfeed,

:01:57. > :02:03.Jim Waterson, the Labour adviser turned stand-up comic,

:02:04. > :02:04.Ayesha Hazarika and the Conservative commentator,

:02:05. > :02:06.Tim Montgomerie. All that after the news read for us

:02:07. > :02:12.this morning by Ben Thompson. Labour is pledging not to raise

:02:13. > :02:16.income tax for those earning less than ?80,000,

:02:17. > :02:20.if it wins the general election. The party says it

:02:21. > :02:22.will not increase VAT or employee

:02:23. > :02:25.national insurance rates. But it says the top 5%

:02:26. > :02:28.of earners will pay more The Conservatives say there

:02:29. > :02:33.is a ?45 billion black hole Meanwhile, the Prime Minister says

:02:34. > :02:39.that if her party is re-elected, the Conservatives will replace

:02:40. > :02:41.current mental health legislation in England and Wales, with a new law

:02:42. > :02:45.tackling discrimination and the unnecessary

:02:46. > :02:48.detention of vulnerable people. The party is also promising 10,000

:02:49. > :02:52.more staff working in NHS mental Labour says the Tories appear

:02:53. > :02:58.to be offering no extra funding And the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt

:02:59. > :03:03.will be on this programme later to talk about the mental health

:03:04. > :03:05.announcement. Andrew will also be talking to

:03:06. > :03:07.the Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell Polls in France will open shortly

:03:08. > :03:14.for the final round of the country's Voters are choosing

:03:15. > :03:19.between Marine Le Pen Results are expected before midnight

:03:20. > :03:24.tonight in what's being described as the most important election

:03:25. > :03:28.in France for decades. The Nigerian presidency has

:03:29. > :03:31.confirmed that 82 schoolgirls, who were kidnapped by Islamist

:03:32. > :03:37.militants in 2014, have been freed. They were among more than 270 girls

:03:38. > :03:40.seized from a boarding school in the town of Chibok

:03:41. > :03:43.in a night-time attack. More than 100 girls

:03:44. > :03:47.are still missing. Around 50,000 people will be

:03:48. > :03:50.evacuated from the German city of Hanover later so experts can remove

:03:51. > :03:55.five unexploded wartime bombs. The bombs were found

:03:56. > :03:59.during work at a building site. Some 2,500 firefighters,

:04:00. > :04:02.rescuers, and police officers are being deployed to help

:04:03. > :04:05.with the operation which affects around a

:04:06. > :04:27.tenth of the city's population. And Labour's tax plan making a lot

:04:28. > :04:32.of the splash headlines "we'll fund spending by raising tax on big

:04:33. > :04:36.earners with extra cash for health and schools, it says. A rather

:04:37. > :04:44.different tone on the Sunday Telegraph. Labour tax to hammer

:04:45. > :04:48.workers on ?80,000. All those ?80,000 worningers. The Sunday Times

:04:49. > :04:54.on its rich list, Brexit brings bonanza for billionaires. The Labour

:04:55. > :05:02.tax story there as well. Finally, a lot of coverage of poor Zoe Ball's

:05:03. > :05:06.loss. Her husband died. Anded Sunday express, may's June revolution.

:05:07. > :05:09.Looking forward to the Tory manifesto. Much to discuss. Above

:05:10. > :05:18.all, the election story. Ayesha, you've taken the front page

:05:19. > :05:23.of the Sunday Times? Labour's trying to get back on the front foot after

:05:24. > :05:27.difficult local election results with what will be a popular policy

:05:28. > :05:32.for Labour supporters. There is a lot of concern about inequality. A

:05:33. > :05:35.lot of concern public services are not getting the adequate amount of

:05:36. > :05:43.funding. A lot of people will think, yeah, this is good, the Labour Party

:05:44. > :05:48.is saying those who earn more should be paying more. But the devil will

:05:49. > :05:53.be in the detail. We don't know when the manifesto is coming out. We'll

:05:54. > :05:58.need to see how much this money will raise and where it will be spent. It

:05:59. > :06:02.is good but there is still a massive issue about credibility with the

:06:03. > :06:07.Labour Party. A very interesting story there in the same story about

:06:08. > :06:11.how Labour's expecting to be judged on these results. It is suggesting

:06:12. > :06:15.it is not just the amount of MPs but the share of the vote comparing that

:06:16. > :06:19.to Ed Miliband's performance last time round? This looks like this has

:06:20. > :06:27.come from somebody close to Jeremy Corbyn. A pre-emptive strike to

:06:28. > :06:29.shore Jeremy Corbyn up against any potential leadership challenges down

:06:30. > :06:32.the track if the general election doesn't go well for Labour. This

:06:33. > :06:38.isn't the way to look at things. Labour is about winning seats.

:06:39. > :06:44.That's what a political party does. You have to look at performance,

:06:45. > :06:48.that's parliamentary seats. We're obsessed by vote share after the

:06:49. > :06:52.local elections. Tim, the most important political news of the week

:06:53. > :06:56.is the ongoing row between the Government here and the EU

:06:57. > :07:00.Commission over Brexit? Absolutely. The local elections have been

:07:01. > :07:06.fascinating. It has been a brilliant week for the Tories in that sense.

:07:07. > :07:10.Are the longer term implications on Brexit the thing we'll remember from

:07:11. > :07:14.the last few day?s I've always been a bracts the supporter. I've thought

:07:15. > :07:18.it is quite important for us to create, not just get into the detail

:07:19. > :07:22.of the Brexit negotiations but create an environment in which

:07:23. > :07:26.Europe wants to do a deal with us. We tackle the idea somehow we've

:07:27. > :07:31.rejected Europe as a continent, a civilisation. We want to separate

:07:32. > :07:39.ourselves from them. Six days after Donald Trump became president

:07:40. > :07:44.Theresa May was off to the US making a pro-US speech. There was never a

:07:45. > :07:48.pro-EU speech. A declaration of love with Europe. Instead, this week,

:07:49. > :07:53.we've almost a declaration of war. I'm worried about the mood music for

:07:54. > :07:56.the context of these talks. She was responding, you were disconcerted, I

:07:57. > :08:01.saw your tweets, what she said outside Number Ten. On the other

:08:02. > :08:04.hand, she was responding to very aggressive briefing by Juncker and

:08:05. > :08:09.others into the German press and across Europe. In an accepts, I

:08:10. > :08:14.don't want to sound like a playground person, they started it!

:08:15. > :08:17.They may have done. I understand why she was provoked. The initial

:08:18. > :08:23.response from Downing Street was this was a private meeting, we don't

:08:24. > :08:28.comment on leaks. That to they sounded grown up. The strong and

:08:29. > :08:31.stable Theresa May we're being presented to us as the Prime

:08:32. > :08:35.Minister the country needs. One of the things is there's so much

:08:36. > :08:39.posturing going on over Brexit at the moment from both sides, while it

:08:40. > :08:45.is important to people in the General Election, people are worried

:08:46. > :08:49.Brexit is overshadowing a lot of really important domestic issues,

:08:50. > :08:53.particularly the Health Service and schools and education. We talk

:08:54. > :08:56.endlessly about the election but many of us don't realise there is

:08:57. > :09:04.another election campaign going on almost in parallel. Jim, you're

:09:05. > :09:10.Political Editor of Buzzfeed. You're working on social media? On Buzz

:09:11. > :09:15.feed we work out how technology is changing politics. We've made a

:09:16. > :09:19.social barometer, an attempt to see what people on Facebook, used by the

:09:20. > :09:23.majority of UK adults are sharing about the election. The end result

:09:24. > :09:26.is a very different narrative to the one we see from newspapers, which

:09:27. > :09:30.overwhelmingly in this country lean to the right. It's a world where

:09:31. > :09:36.Jeremy Corbyn is doing far better than expected. A world where these,

:09:37. > :09:42.the evil Tory policies the Government are pushing on people.

:09:43. > :09:49.That sort of story goes viral. The most interesting thing, alternatives

:09:50. > :09:55.sites like Canary, Evolved Politics Quackbox are going viral as much as

:09:56. > :10:03.mainstream. This allows people who have... One of the more popular

:10:04. > :10:08.blocks has reached over a million people which is comparable to the

:10:09. > :10:12.circulation of a newspaper, a guy who run as blog called Another Angry

:10:13. > :10:19.Voice. This is going viral online. In the same way at Donald Trump in

:10:20. > :10:23.his rides in the US again presidential election, he saw media

:10:24. > :10:27.rise up. I'm not saying this will win over voters. This is Jeremy

:10:28. > :10:32.Corbyn supporters who feel they are not represented by the rest of the

:10:33. > :10:37.media choosing in large numbers to look for news elsewhere. I'm across

:10:38. > :10:42.the older gits. You were talking about your buzz feed story using

:10:43. > :10:47.Facebook and Twitter. I don't use Facebook much. That makes me odd,

:10:48. > :10:52.does it? If you go on to buzz feed.com you can see our analysis.

:10:53. > :10:57.Facebook is reaching a far bigger number of people than Twitter.

:10:58. > :11:02.Twitter's where journalists and politicians like to hang out.

:11:03. > :11:09.Facebook is where the person who has fief minutes waiting for the bus

:11:10. > :11:16.looks at the news and its sees info. Do you recognise the rise of the alt

:11:17. > :11:21.left in Britain? There's a lot spoken about fake news. It is not

:11:22. > :11:27.fake news as such but it is hyper partisan audiences. On your Facebook

:11:28. > :11:32.site particularly, you are in quite an echo chamber. If you're getting

:11:33. > :11:38.messages you already agree with, they will be hugely ampified. That

:11:39. > :11:42.rise of had a hyper-partisan platform will eventually have an

:11:43. > :11:45.effect. Jim's right, whether that has a huge knowledgeon effect in

:11:46. > :11:51.terms of how it moves the needle when people come to vote, remains to

:11:52. > :11:57.be seen. Tim, a respectable newspaper man in the past, you're

:11:58. > :12:01.tiptoeing gently into this world? I used to run Conservative Home which

:12:02. > :12:07.appealed to Tory activists. We gave the Tory activists, I hope, a very

:12:08. > :12:12.focussed news feed on Tory news. But we were quite critical of the Tory

:12:13. > :12:16.leadership at times. What I hear about this in contrast, it is giving

:12:17. > :12:24.readers constantly what they want to hear. It is not like independent

:12:25. > :12:29.journalism here. The view from these sites is if right-wing tabloids have

:12:30. > :12:34.been doing this for years why not apply it to the left? In 2015, we

:12:35. > :12:39.thought with because Twitter was so positive about the Labour and the

:12:40. > :12:45.polls as well, victory was ours. Sadly, there's more to the case.

:12:46. > :12:50.There's more to the world than Facebook and Twitter. Ayesha, you've

:12:51. > :12:58.the Sun story on the French elections? It is a very strange

:12:59. > :13:04.headline. Very good headline. This is an extraordinary story. Another

:13:05. > :13:08.huge cyber leak just on the eve of pooling. There are quite severe

:13:09. > :13:14.reporting restrictions about what was leaked. But clearly it looks

:13:15. > :13:18.like there's again disruption going ton with western democracies. People

:13:19. > :13:21.are looking at Russia in terms of whether they are to blame for this.

:13:22. > :13:27.All eyes will be on France today for this election. Macron looks like

:13:28. > :13:34.he's doing pretty well from the polls. Marine Le Pen is not going to

:13:35. > :13:40.go away. The how will of discontent people feel this rage against the

:13:41. > :13:45.elite. A dominant narrative is not going to go away. There will have to

:13:46. > :13:50.be a big inquiry into what this is all about. This leak dropped just as

:13:51. > :13:55.the moment the French press were unable to talk about it because of

:13:56. > :14:00.their rules. We must wonder whether we will get things like this in our

:14:01. > :14:04.British election? It will be very hard to imagine they weren't at

:14:05. > :14:08.least try in some sense. They clearly hacked Macron's campaign,

:14:09. > :14:14.mixed it up with some fake documents and released it at a point where

:14:15. > :14:18.no-one could report it. They didn't get anything particularly juicy but

:14:19. > :14:26.dropped it nonetheless. The tweet of the week belongs to the Russian

:14:27. > :14:29.embassy in London. They said at leastn't them being accused of

:14:30. > :14:34.interfering with the British elections. We don't need the

:14:35. > :14:38.Russians to get involved in British politics. Another big story. It is

:14:39. > :14:42.the Sunday Times rich list causing the rest of us to sit over hour

:14:43. > :14:48.cornflakes sucking our teeth with envy. What is the story this year?

:14:49. > :14:53.Is it the effect of Brexit on the richest people in the country? It

:14:54. > :14:58.is. Brexit has resulted in the pound's value falling. If you earn

:14:59. > :15:02.all your money overseas or your companies do, you have holdings

:15:03. > :15:07.overseas, you're sudden 20% richer. If you're a billionaire and your

:15:08. > :15:14.stocks have shot up that much thanks to Brexit, on paper you're worth so

:15:15. > :15:19.much more. The main thing is seeing what happens when that money that

:15:20. > :15:26.has been overseas, comes back to London, suddenly, it's a lot cheaper

:15:27. > :15:29.to bring it back home. Adele is worth ?129 million. Makes me feel so

:15:30. > :15:39.much better. A warm glow of empathy. On your topic you have a lot about

:15:40. > :15:46.Prince Philip, looking back at his career, his life? The life in the

:15:47. > :15:53.public eye. This is an island in Vanuatu? And island in the Pacific,

:15:54. > :15:56.they have regarded Prince Philip for decades as a demigod, the son of the

:15:57. > :16:01.mountain god that they worship. They believe that should he come back to

:16:02. > :16:04.the island, that their crops will grow taller, and sickness on the

:16:05. > :16:08.island will disappear. You can imagine that news of his retirement

:16:09. > :16:14.has hit him a little bit harder than it has hit some of us in the UK. He

:16:15. > :16:17.has said that... Prince Edward has said in an interview that he will

:16:18. > :16:23.pick and choose his public appointments. He isn't completely

:16:24. > :16:26.retiring! I had to say, reading across The Papers today, I do not

:16:27. > :16:34.think it is only Pacific Islanders who regard him as a demigod this

:16:35. > :16:37.morning! Stephen Fry, talking of gods and demigod, is in trouble?

:16:38. > :16:44.Yes, this is an old interview from a couple of years ago, asked his views

:16:45. > :16:48.on God can he has played God in his time, he said if there was a god,

:16:49. > :16:52.why would all of these terrible things be happening? A viewer has

:16:53. > :16:58.complained, and it is being investigated by the police now under

:16:59. > :17:03.blasphemy laws. It does seem extraordinary, in an age of free

:17:04. > :17:07.speech, that people would be... The police would be wasting time

:17:08. > :17:10.investigating this as a serious crime. The Republic of Ireland

:17:11. > :17:16.remains a culture like that, but talking about God, that allows me to

:17:17. > :17:18.say thank you very much to all of you. And we can move straight into

:17:19. > :17:20.this. The Church of England's two

:17:21. > :17:23.archbishops have issued a letter on the general election to be read

:17:24. > :17:25.by congregations around the country. But should we really be mixing faith

:17:26. > :17:28.and politics at all? John Sentamu, Archbishop of York

:17:29. > :17:35.spoke to me earlier. I asked him if, after the local

:17:36. > :17:38.elections, the general election Because in the end, everybody who's

:17:39. > :17:43.got the right to vote, I want to encourage them to go out

:17:44. > :17:46.and actually cast their vote. Because you see, apathy and cynicism

:17:47. > :17:49.does not help our nation. You know, there are countries where

:17:50. > :17:52.they do not have a right to vote, and they are dying to have a ballot

:17:53. > :17:55.and be able to vote. In this country, if everybody

:17:56. > :17:58.eligible to vote actually voted, the result would be

:17:59. > :18:05.an interesting result. Can I ask you - why do you say

:18:06. > :18:11.we should be praying for our elected politicians,

:18:12. > :18:13.who are not terribly Constantly we are praying

:18:14. > :18:16.and not only for the Queen that our government and those

:18:17. > :18:19.who govern us - because prayer, in many ways, is one way

:18:20. > :18:22.of connecting myself with the person There is too much cynicism

:18:23. > :18:24.about everything else. We talk about crisis all the time,

:18:25. > :18:27.but actually, this country - yes, housing is a challenge,

:18:28. > :18:30.education is a challenge, health is a challenge -

:18:31. > :18:32.but on the whole, there are many Prayer helps us to

:18:33. > :18:35.actually celebrate. So during the election campaign,

:18:36. > :18:37.already one politician, Tim Farron of the Liberal Democrats,

:18:38. > :18:39.has been constantly pressed about whether,

:18:40. > :18:41.as an evangelical Christian, Do you think that is an acceptable

:18:42. > :18:47.thing for a politician to be asked? If he has expressed a view

:18:48. > :18:52.on homosexual people, If he expressed no view,

:18:53. > :19:00.I don't think anybody is of right to interpret and read the mind

:19:01. > :19:04.of the person as we do not Tim Farron expressed a view

:19:05. > :19:11.and they were pressing And trying to create

:19:12. > :19:16.a window into his soul... Trying to create

:19:17. > :19:18.a window into his heart. But if you come up with these views,

:19:19. > :19:22.for example, I will be one of those if he suggested that homosexual

:19:23. > :19:27.people should be criminalised, I would be against him

:19:28. > :19:30.saying, no, no, no. You cannot criminalise people

:19:31. > :19:32.because of their sexual And someone is trying

:19:33. > :19:41.to fish and fish and fish and eventually they will take him

:19:42. > :19:44.into a realm of theology. Is he qualified to comment

:19:45. > :19:46.on those realms of theology? There are some things in here that

:19:47. > :19:54.some people would say are strange for archbishops to get involved in,

:19:55. > :19:56.like productivity in Why would the Church of England

:19:57. > :20:01.have a view on subjects like that? Because the whole of the world

:20:02. > :20:04.belongs to God, and I strongly believe that every human

:20:05. > :20:07.person should flourish. If there are things that

:20:08. > :20:09.are preventing flourishing, like the environment,

:20:10. > :20:12.things like wages, things like housing,

:20:13. > :20:13.things like education, health care, and people

:20:14. > :20:17.are not flourishing... If I simply sat on the sidelines

:20:18. > :20:20.and did not get involved, what kind of a Bible

:20:21. > :20:22.are people reading? Do you think that the North

:20:23. > :20:27.is getting a fair crack Are you encouraged by what is

:20:28. > :20:31.going on in the North I mean it is interesting -

:20:32. > :20:41.the plant, the Nissan plant actually up in Newcastle,

:20:42. > :20:43.has got the greatest productivity in the country

:20:44. > :20:45.and produces a lot of money. What is critical is that

:20:46. > :20:47.some of that should be There is still a big job to be

:20:48. > :20:52.done but heaven's sake, let us not always look at things

:20:53. > :20:55.purely in negative terms. Because every human person

:20:56. > :20:57.is of infinite wealth, and that is why I am so fed up

:20:58. > :21:00.when I hear constantly people talking about "ordinary

:21:01. > :21:07.hard-working people". They may be unemployed,

:21:08. > :21:12.but they are still extraordinary, so let us celebrate our common

:21:13. > :21:14.humanity. So you want to govern for

:21:15. > :21:16.extraordinary hard-working people? It's been a rather desolate,

:21:17. > :21:32.bone-aching and frankly soul-destroying week,

:21:33. > :21:33.meteorogically. I wish I could think of something

:21:34. > :21:37.good to say about it but I can't. Over to Louise Lear

:21:38. > :21:43.in the BBC weather studio. I'm not sure residents of the

:21:44. > :21:48.Scottish Highlands would agree! They have had blue skies and sunshine,

:21:49. > :21:52.highs of up to 21 degrees all week. But I understand what you are

:21:53. > :21:56.talking about, this morning the breeze from the North Sea, the East

:21:57. > :22:01.Coast has been really disappointing. West is best and we will see lovely

:22:02. > :22:07.spells of sunshine, a glorious start in Rochdale. A nagging northerly

:22:08. > :22:12.wind is still with us. Strengthening to a gale force wind in the Northern

:22:13. > :22:17.Isles, driving in cloud. The East Coast is cool and disappointing. Get

:22:18. > :22:23.some shelter, sunshine is strong at this time of year and temperatures

:22:24. > :22:26.respond. Highs in the high teens, as high as 21 degrees in Northern

:22:27. > :22:33.Ireland. If this happens, the warmest day of the year so far for

:22:34. > :22:37.you. Not so warm in the Scottish Highlands due to this cold air from

:22:38. > :22:42.the north. Clear skies overnight, temperatures falling away.

:22:43. > :22:46.Gardeners, growers and farmers, take note! Anywhere from North Wales,

:22:47. > :22:52.northwards, you could see some light frost first thing into Monday

:22:53. > :22:56.morning. Blue skies, sunshine, West is best again. Dry weather stays

:22:57. > :22:57.with us for the early half of the week. The potential of rain towards

:22:58. > :23:04.the first half of this week... After very disappointing

:23:05. > :23:05.local election results, According to yesterday's Guardian,

:23:06. > :23:09.the Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell is to be deployed to reveal more

:23:10. > :23:18.about his values and personal story. Before we get onto that... I do not

:23:19. > :23:21.know where that story came from, but there we are! The Guardian

:23:22. > :23:26.newspaper! Let me ask about local elections. You said that the results

:23:27. > :23:30.were mixed. A mix between bad and very bad? They were really

:23:31. > :23:35.disappointing, of course they were. We fought hard, there were mixed

:23:36. > :23:38.results. In some areas, like Manchester and Liverpool, and down

:23:39. > :23:48.in Bristol in the south-west, we did pretty well. And in Wales, it was

:23:49. > :23:51.not so bad, but of course was disappointing. Who is to blame? I

:23:52. > :23:54.think we have a period of time where we haven't been able to get policies

:23:55. > :23:57.across. It is partly the media, I need to be straight about that, but

:23:58. > :24:02.we are campaigning as a united party. The campaign has two step up

:24:03. > :24:08.a notch. The general election starts now, local government elections are

:24:09. > :24:11.over, now the general election. We get more balanced coverage in terms

:24:12. > :24:15.of a general election campaign, so we have the opportunity to put our

:24:16. > :24:19.ideas across and so people can learn more about Jeremy Corbyn as leader.

:24:20. > :24:24.Do you think the more they see him, the more they will like, that is not

:24:25. > :24:28.the evidence so far? It is important in a general election in a democracy

:24:29. > :24:32.like this to put your policies out there straightforwardly and show the

:24:33. > :24:35.kind of person you are. I want this debate between Jeremy and Theresa

:24:36. > :24:41.May, I do not understand why she is running from it. If we can debate in

:24:42. > :24:45.France between the two candidates for president, why can't we? If they

:24:46. > :24:48.see more of Jeremy, they will see the honest and decent person that he

:24:49. > :24:55.is... She will debate with other leaders, in that case? I want

:24:56. > :24:58.Theresa May to respond to this. The reality is, whoever will be Prime

:24:59. > :25:04.Minister of this country will be either Jeremy Corbyn or Theresa May.

:25:05. > :25:10.We need her to say that she will debate this. What is wrong with

:25:11. > :25:14.that? We are a democracy, for goodness' sake. Another reason as to

:25:15. > :25:18.what went wrong for your party was given by yourself a few years ago.

:25:19. > :25:22.You said it was not arguable that a party leader could not win an

:25:23. > :25:25.election if behind in the polls on economic competence.

:25:26. > :25:28.You are way behind in the polls. Up to a point, you must take personal

:25:29. > :25:35.responsibility and Mark of course, we have been behind in economic and

:25:36. > :25:42.ability since 2008, that happened to most political parties. Of course

:25:43. > :25:46.there is a responsibility. 18 months to get your message across? We are

:25:47. > :25:50.trying and that is why in this campaign there's a real opportunity

:25:51. > :25:53.to get the message across, about how we will manage that economy in

:25:54. > :25:58.future. The message today from you is that if you own more than ?80,000

:25:59. > :26:04.payday you pay more in tax but if not, you pay no more? Anyone earning

:26:05. > :26:08.below ?80,000, we are saying that you guarantee there will be no

:26:09. > :26:13.increase in VAT or national insurance contributions. For those

:26:14. > :26:17.over ?80,000, we are asking them to pay a modest bit more to fund public

:26:18. > :26:23.services. Last week you had Theresa May on, and you put a very good

:26:24. > :26:27.question to her about nurses. An 11% cut in wages over the last seven

:26:28. > :26:32.years, some nurses going to food banks, that cannot be right. We are

:26:33. > :26:42.asking higher earners to pay a bit more. Are we asking about a new rate

:26:43. > :26:46.of tax? What will happen this week is the Lib Dems and Labour will be

:26:47. > :26:49.launching the new manifesto the week after next and we will identify the

:26:50. > :26:53.specifics... You said clearly that people over

:26:54. > :26:59.?80,000 per year will be paying more. A bit more, a modest bit more

:27:00. > :27:01.but the reason I am saying this, I want middle and low earners to be

:27:02. > :27:06.assured that under Labour they will not be paying more in tax. There

:27:07. > :27:09.have been ludicrous figures that the Tories have been bandying about and

:27:10. > :27:18.I want them to have that assurance. A little bit more, John McDonnell

:27:19. > :27:24.has changed his mind about those earning over ?100,000 paying 62%

:27:25. > :27:30.Britton you will see that it will be a modest increase? -- 60%? It will

:27:31. > :27:35.go to education services, care services and the NHS. They are

:27:36. > :27:40.desperately in need. I hope when Jeremy Hunt comes on, you will

:27:41. > :27:45.asking these questions. Can I ask you about policy? For people earning

:27:46. > :27:50.?150,000, is that a return to the 50% tax band for them? I'm sorry to

:27:51. > :27:56.argue but we have a democratic process in Labour, the following

:27:57. > :28:01.week, the manifesto will be there. What I am doing, to be certain, I

:28:02. > :28:06.will be identifying for each policy the costing of that policy. How will

:28:07. > :28:09.you pay for it? The assurance I am getting is that lower and middle

:28:10. > :28:14.earners will not have an increase in tax and there will not be any

:28:15. > :28:19.stealth tax. Can I ask you about stealth taxes? You have not

:28:20. > :28:24.specifically ruled out a rise in employers national insurance? I

:28:25. > :28:28.never mentioned that in the past. That's why people were suspicious.

:28:29. > :28:33.Let me allay their suspicions, that is not happening. And what about the

:28:34. > :28:39.18, will you extend the rate over other areas? You said you will not

:28:40. > :28:47.raise the rate of VAT? The only exception we made was Private school

:28:48. > :28:51.fees, where we want to put VAT on that and we will get free school

:28:52. > :28:57.meals for children using that. I think it is fair. The Sunday Times

:28:58. > :29:01.Rich list has come out today, very rich people indeed, are you

:29:02. > :29:06.attracted to the idea of a wealth tax? I'm shocked all the time about

:29:07. > :29:10.inequalities within our society. Somehow, we must address that. We

:29:11. > :29:15.will be bringing forward ideas around that, in terms of

:29:16. > :29:20.inequalities, and... A wealth tax is possible? We are talking about

:29:21. > :29:23.individual areas coming forward. A policy we will identify will cost,

:29:24. > :29:29.and that the same time I will identify a funding source. We are

:29:30. > :29:32.talking about making sure public services are properly funded. We

:29:33. > :29:35.aren't talking about hitting people hard, but talking about modest

:29:36. > :29:39.increases so that we can have a society which we can believe

:29:40. > :29:43.everybody shares the benefits. How much money do you intend to borrow

:29:44. > :29:50.over the next ten years? What we have been saying is that in our

:29:51. > :29:55.capital programme, we have a ?250 billion worth of investments, about

:29:56. > :30:00.?25 billion over that 10-year period per year, to upgrade infrastructure.

:30:01. > :30:05.I want to make this... This is a lot of borrowing and tax rises, some

:30:06. > :30:08.people say this is going back to the 1970s gritty mark shall I tell you

:30:09. > :30:15.who's advice we took in terms of borrowing? That Hammond. He said --

:30:16. > :30:21.Philip Hammond. We took the figures from the CBI, about how much exactly

:30:22. > :30:26.is needed, if we are to be competitive with European and

:30:27. > :30:30.American competitors. If you look at what Donald Trump is doing, he is

:30:31. > :30:34.putting in 1 trillion. You are applying to be the second most

:30:35. > :30:37.important person in the country and would be the first Marxist

:30:38. > :30:41.Chancellor in this country in modern times, how will that affect things?

:30:42. > :30:45.I will be the first socialist in the traditions of the Labour Party. That

:30:46. > :30:51.will be rooted in Labour Party values. They are fairness, equality,

:30:52. > :30:55.and making sure that there is a democratic decision taken at every

:30:56. > :31:00.stage. I will be including in the economic develop Mentor

:31:01. > :31:05.country, -- developmental process of this country, we will develop the

:31:06. > :31:11.future of our country, it won't be done behind closed doors by private

:31:12. > :31:16.lobbyist. I used the word Marxist because you yourself has said again

:31:17. > :31:20.and again that you are clear and an unapologetic Marxist. You don't say

:31:21. > :31:26.it on television but in obscure places like the House of Commons?

:31:27. > :31:30.They say whisper a secret in the House of Commons and nobody hears

:31:31. > :31:34.it! The issue there is in the strong tradition of the Labour Party, they

:31:35. > :31:38.take into account all of those economic figures. I am saying the

:31:39. > :31:43.democratic decision-making about the future of our economy will be open

:31:44. > :31:47.and transparent, and inclusive. It would be done by private lobbyists

:31:48. > :31:52.but involving both sides of industry and involve elected mayors, and

:31:53. > :31:58.local democracies. A clear and simple question, are you a Marxist?

:31:59. > :32:03.I believe that there is a lot... Yes or no? I believe that there is a lot

:32:04. > :32:07.to learn from capital, recommended not only by me but many others

:32:08. > :32:14.including mainstream economists. In the long tradition of the Labour

:32:15. > :32:19.Party, you put it all together, and you have, I think, a direction for

:32:20. > :32:24.our economy, based upon sound principles of fairness.

:32:25. > :32:31.You mentioned Das capital, the prediction is capitalism as a system

:32:32. > :32:36.will come down with an enormous crash. The entire system will fail.

:32:37. > :32:40.That's where Mark's got it wrong. You said you don't want to replace

:32:41. > :32:45.the Government, you want to bring down the system? I want to transform

:32:46. > :32:53.the system. That's where Mark's got it wrong. Awant to transform it. I

:32:54. > :32:57.want to transform it in a way in which we've a prosperous economy,

:32:58. > :33:00.where that prosperity's shared by all. Where it is economically

:33:01. > :33:05.sustainable but environmentally as well. You're no longer looking for a

:33:06. > :33:12.revolutionary moment? I'm looking for a transformative Government.

:33:13. > :33:16.Like the Atlee Government, will lay the foundations for a prosperous

:33:17. > :33:20.economy. When our country's richer and everybody shares in those

:33:21. > :33:24.riches. You may do well in this election campaign. You may win. If

:33:25. > :33:27.you don't, you President past have been clear both you and Jeremy

:33:28. > :33:36.Corbyn will then have to stand down. Do you still agree with that? I'm

:33:37. > :33:39.not working on wild hip that cal. There's been a rush of young people

:33:40. > :33:44.going out to vote over the past week. There's been a rush of young

:33:45. > :33:47.people, I think this will be young people's election as much as

:33:48. > :33:51.anything. I think we're in there with a real fight. With he know how

:33:52. > :33:55.tough it is. I don't deny that That's when the Labour Party comes

:33:56. > :34:02.out fighting and will, I believe, win this election. You said this to

:34:03. > :34:08.me on that sum subject not long ago. Your critics think you can't win

:34:09. > :34:13.that election. At the they're proved right, both of you will resign?

:34:14. > :34:17.That's inof theible. Do you still agree with that? I think we'll win

:34:18. > :34:23.this election. You said it was inevitable if you didn't. I'm fight

:34:24. > :34:30.win this election as are our 5,000 members out there. We're not

:34:31. > :34:34.contemplating any loss. Why, because our country needs us. Thank you.

:34:35. > :34:38.Was immortalised on screen by Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton.

:34:39. > :34:41.Edward Albee's classic play still packs a punch.

:34:42. > :34:43.Imelda Staunton and Conleth Hill have been getting rave reviews

:34:44. > :34:48.It explores a marriage on the rocks, where dark secrets

:34:49. > :34:52.and frustrated desires slosh around on a sea of alcohol.

:34:53. > :34:55.I met up with Imelda and Conleth on stage

:34:56. > :35:03.to hear how they're bringing their version to the big screen too.

:35:04. > :35:16.Hey! Who... Who ace 's afraid of Virginia Woolf? Virginia Woolf? Ha,

:35:17. > :35:24.ha, ha. What's the matter? I thought that was a scream. A real scream?

:35:25. > :35:28.You didn't like it, huh? It was all right, Martha. You laughed your head

:35:29. > :35:32.off when you heard it at the party. I did not. I smiled. It was all

:35:33. > :35:38.right. I laughed your Dodd dam head off. It was all right. It was a

:35:39. > :35:44.scream. It was very funny, yes. Make me puke! I think you've described

:35:45. > :35:49.this play as a dinner party with the Macbeth's! Tell us about what

:35:50. > :35:54.happens? It's basically a couple who've been together for 23 years.

:35:55. > :35:59.He's a sorb why professor in a small New England college. His wife, whose

:36:00. > :36:02.father happens to be the President of the university. They come home

:36:03. > :36:08.quite late, about 2.00am after a meet and greet for new teachers and

:36:09. > :36:14.staff. He's ready for his bed. She informs him they've guests coming

:36:15. > :36:19.over. So begins three hours of a rollercoaster ride of... Drunken

:36:20. > :36:23.madness? Yes. Conleth, your character, for a lot of the play,

:36:24. > :36:28.seems to be a punch bag. What is really driving him? It's hard to pin

:36:29. > :36:32.him down precisely because we don't know how much of what he tells about

:36:33. > :36:37.his early life is true or not. If we assume it is, he's a survivor and

:36:38. > :36:44.has survived some terrible incidents in his early life which has equipped

:36:45. > :36:50.him to deal well. He doesn't have much ambition or much push but seems

:36:51. > :36:54.to be quite happy with that. The electricity and aggression between

:36:55. > :36:59.the two of you masks a deep love which only really emerges by the end

:37:00. > :37:07.of the play? I think so. Martha has a huge degree of self-loathing. And

:37:08. > :37:15.this man tolerates her behaviour to a degree. He does that because he

:37:16. > :37:24.loves and understands that she is mistaken and a very desperate woman

:37:25. > :37:30.who's had a lonely childhood. I think he recognises almost her lack

:37:31. > :37:33.of ability, sort of almost matches his own lack of some ability.

:37:34. > :37:42.They've both holes inside them? Totally. A lot of people will know

:37:43. > :37:46.this through the famous Elizabeth Taylor Richard Burton film. The

:37:47. > :37:51.actual process of performing this for film was part of what destroyed

:37:52. > :37:55.their own marriage. They were bringing home such electricity. I'm

:37:56. > :37:59.wondering about your wonderful husband Tim? You brought back a

:38:00. > :38:04.little bit of Martha in the evenings? In rehearsal, it was

:38:05. > :38:11.pretty grim for him. He would say, here comes chirpy. I think Richard

:38:12. > :38:16.and Liz had a head-start on that. But now, all its, it's not grumpy,

:38:17. > :38:20.just absolutely shattered. Did you go back and watch the film before

:38:21. > :38:25.you did this or is that too close? You wanted to make it your own? I

:38:26. > :38:30.didn't. I saw clips. I wouldn't watch the film. You've never seen

:38:31. > :38:35.it? No. I've seen bits and Benny Hill... Take it from that. That's

:38:36. > :38:41.better. That's what I'm basing it on. That's very funny. It is very

:38:42. > :38:47.good. You do want to make it your own. She's so extraordinary and he

:38:48. > :38:52.is. Oh, God. One's intimidated enough without adding insult to

:38:53. > :38:58.injury. What do you take me for? Much too much. I'll start. I'd

:38:59. > :39:02.advise againest. Come on in. Get over there and open that door.

:39:03. > :39:06.You've been advised, Martha. Get over there. Nice the way some people

:39:07. > :39:11.still have manners and just don't come breaking into other people's

:39:12. > :39:22.houses Ian if they do hear some sub-human monster jowling at them

:39:23. > :39:26.from inside. Goddamn you! Ha, ha, Hi, there. About the only thing you

:39:27. > :39:34.don't do in this play is sing and dance? I do dance. You do sing a

:39:35. > :39:38.little. You do but you do who ace 's afraid of Virginia Woolf. For people

:39:39. > :39:48.who does anti-know, why is it called that? It's who's afraid of big bad

:39:49. > :39:55.wolf? Three little pigs. A literary joke. And Edward Albee who's afraid

:39:56. > :40:01.of the truth. It's about the truth? Yes. I know people watching these

:40:02. > :40:05.interviews think, I'd really like to see that but I can't make it to the

:40:06. > :40:14.West End. This will be filmed and will go out in cinemas all around

:40:15. > :40:20.the world? Yes on May 18th. I've never done an NT live. This is my

:40:21. > :40:24.third. It's easy. Are you very much aware of cameras on the set moving

:40:25. > :40:31.around or does it feel like an ordinary evening? We've done a dress

:40:32. > :40:36.rehearsal. Hopefully, the cameras are far away. They're trying to film

:40:37. > :40:41.a theatrical experience. You're not trying to make a film? No. It will

:40:42. > :40:46.be interesting to see how friends might report back if they get the

:40:47. > :40:48.electricity you guys got last week. I'm sure they will. Thank you very

:40:49. > :40:50.much. For a lot of voters,

:40:51. > :40:53.the central issue in this election campaign is the condition

:40:54. > :40:55.of our most loved institution But these have not been easy years

:40:56. > :40:59.for the NHS or for those working in it and the Health Secretary

:41:00. > :41:02.responsible for the NHS in England may have his work cut out explaining

:41:03. > :41:15.why its future will be brighter We tend to bandy in numbers a lot in

:41:16. > :41:19.these conversations. Let me start with a simple question. If I wake up

:41:20. > :41:24.in the middle of the night and have some pain inside me and I'm rushed

:41:25. > :41:29.to A How soon should I be seen? The standard says you should be seen

:41:30. > :41:32.within four hours. Not just seen but treated and either discharged home

:41:33. > :41:37.or admitted to hospital. When the last time the NHS in England hit

:41:38. > :41:42.that target? We haven't hit it for over two years. It's not acceptable.

:41:43. > :41:48.We have a plan to get back to that standard. But... If people vote

:41:49. > :41:52.Conservative, can they expect you hitting that standard after the

:41:53. > :41:57.election and if so, why? I think with respect, you have to look at

:41:58. > :42:02.what's actually happening in A departments which is, despite the

:42:03. > :42:07.huge pressure... Longer waits. Of an ageing population, half a million

:42:08. > :42:12.moreover 75s since 2010, we're actually seeing within that crucial

:42:13. > :42:17.four-hour standard more than 2,000 people every single day being seen

:42:18. > :42:24.within the standard. Demand has gone up faster than that which is why

:42:25. > :42:30.we're investing in more doctors and nurses. I'm saying, we've said, we

:42:31. > :42:34.intend to get back to that standard next year. It is very important we

:42:35. > :42:38.do so. Another good example of how the NHS is performing or not

:42:39. > :42:43.performing is the 18 week rule. Again, if I'm in a GP's surgery, I'm

:42:44. > :42:48.terribly sorry, there's something serious happening to you, you have

:42:49. > :42:53.to go into hospital for an operation or procedure, I will be seen and

:42:54. > :42:57.there within 18 weeks. Again, how many people are not seen within 18

:42:58. > :43:02.weeks at the moment? The standard is 92%. Currently we are on 90%. In

:43:03. > :43:07.terms of people not being seen that's how many? A significant

:43:08. > :43:11.number. You've picked two examples. I don't think that is a fair

:43:12. > :43:15.reflection of the performance of the NHS. This is important. Just before

:43:16. > :43:19.the election was called at the end of March, the NHS published an

:43:20. > :43:23.independent report in which they said if you take most major

:43:24. > :43:26.conditions, heart attacks, stroke, cancer, so on, outcomes have

:43:27. > :43:32.dramatically improved over the last five years. The example they gave

:43:33. > :43:37.was cancer. Where they said 7,000 people are alive today who wouldn't

:43:38. > :43:40.have been alive if we'd kept with the cancer survival rates of 2012.

:43:41. > :43:45.People watching this programme, there will be thousands and

:43:46. > :43:52.thousands who will say they've good NHS experience. They recognise the

:43:53. > :43:56.pressures on the NHS, those crucial standards which we are committed to

:43:57. > :44:01.getting right. They can see there are more doctors, nurses funding

:44:02. > :44:05.than ever before. Nobody's saying I, I'm certainly not, nothing's is

:44:06. > :44:09.going well in the NHS. Not at all. Those are two rules you set

:44:10. > :44:15.yourself, the four hour rule and 18 week rule to be judged by. You've

:44:16. > :44:19.failed on both of them. 370,000 people are now not seen within 18

:44:20. > :44:24.weeks. That number's going up very fast. 100,000 in the last year

:44:25. > :44:28.alone. They are very, very important standards but they are not the open

:44:29. > :44:32.standards. They're important to the humane working of the NHS.

:44:33. > :44:41.Absolutely. So is making sure we don't have a repeat of what happened

:44:42. > :44:46.at Mid-Staffs. Every day in the NHS we're doing about 5,000 more

:44:47. > :44:51.operations. The number of patients being harmed with things like blood

:44:52. > :44:55.clots, avoidable falls, pressure ulcers, is down by 8% despite a huge

:44:56. > :45:01.increase in activity. There's fantastic things happening in the

:45:02. > :45:05.NHS. I think it is very important people like you focus on the bigger

:45:06. > :45:12.picture. I understand there's good as well as bad. The Royal college of

:45:13. > :45:16.fist EU fizzingsings says our N s - ment HS an overstretched.

:45:17. > :45:21.Underfunded. Patients are waiting long are for the care they need. An

:45:22. > :45:25.increasing number of people cannot safely leave hospital as the care

:45:26. > :45:31.system is unable to cope. People's lives are being put at risk. The

:45:32. > :45:37.Royal college of physicians. A very serious assessment of where the NHS

:45:38. > :45:40.under Jeremy Hunt. . And what has Jeremy Hunt and this Government

:45:41. > :45:47.being doing about that? I agree we need more doctors. Since I've been

:45:48. > :45:51.Health Secretary we've 6,500 more doctors and nurses. Under the

:45:52. > :45:57.funding issue... This is what I want to come to. Let's talk about that

:45:58. > :46:01.for a moment. We had a very difficult period straight after

:46:02. > :46:05.2010, after the financial collapse, the austerity period. Then, towards

:46:06. > :46:08.the end of that period,s as soon as we were able to, as Conservatives,

:46:09. > :46:15.because we are committed to the NHS. We want to be the party of the NHS.

:46:16. > :46:21.Over the last three years, we're putting in an extra ?6.5 billion a

:46:22. > :46:25.year. The result of that is you'ring an NHS with more funding, more

:46:26. > :46:31.doctors, more nurses. I put it to you, not enough. You've a real

:46:32. > :46:35.problem of pay in the NHS. Nurses who've had seven years of pay

:46:36. > :46:39.freeze. The Royal college of nursing says nurses are having to go to good

:46:40. > :46:42.bangs at the moment. There are complex reasons why people go to

:46:43. > :46:48.food bangsment are there complex reasons why nurses have to do that?

:46:49. > :46:57.The minimum a nurse can be paid in this country is ?22,000, ?27,000 in

:46:58. > :47:01.London, assuming they do no anti-social hours, and in practice

:47:02. > :47:08.most of them will. The average pay for nurses is ?31,000... More than

:47:09. > :47:11.the national average. We do not agree with those numbers but they

:47:12. > :47:15.are getting paid more than the national average. Is that enough

:47:16. > :47:19.considering the brilliant work they do? I think many people would say

:47:20. > :47:23.that we want to pay them more. I think they do an incredible job. If

:47:24. > :47:28.you want more money, and you have asked me this before, if you want

:47:29. > :47:31.more money to go into the NHS, this government recognises that we will

:47:32. > :47:35.need to put more money into the NHS and social care system, the cause of

:47:36. > :47:41.the pressures that we face. The question is, how do you get there?

:47:42. > :47:44.There is a non-NHS issue which overshadows everything, which is

:47:45. > :47:52.Brexit negotiations. Sorry to come to this but it is very important. If

:47:53. > :47:56.we do not get a good Brexit outcome, and we do not protect the economic

:47:57. > :48:04.recovery, the jobs that Sony people depend on, whose taxes pay for the

:48:05. > :48:09.NHS -- so many people depend on. A bad Brexit outcome would be a

:48:10. > :48:14.disaster for the NHS. Do people want a strong Theresa May doing those

:48:15. > :48:17.difficult negotiations? We have 27 countries lined up, some of them

:48:18. > :48:25.appear to think that for the EE you to survive, Britain has to fail. --

:48:26. > :48:28.for the EU to survive. Let me interrogate that a little bit, in

:48:29. > :48:33.terms of the good deal that you say this country needs to have for the

:48:34. > :48:39.NHS to thrive, presumably that isn't including no Deal? Would no Deal

:48:40. > :48:45.damage the NHS badly? We have been very clear that no deal is better

:48:46. > :48:50.than a bad steel. I am asking whether no Deal, leaving without an

:48:51. > :48:56.agreement, would damage the NHS, in your view? We would like a deal. We

:48:57. > :49:02.think a deal, getting a good deal, would be better for the NHS and

:49:03. > :49:06.economy and better for jobs, better for all of us, but we recognise a

:49:07. > :49:10.bad deal would be bad for the country and bad for our long-term

:49:11. > :49:14.future. We are not prepared to say that we will get a deal at any cost.

:49:15. > :49:19.Sorry, with respect you are really saying that good is good and bad is

:49:20. > :49:24.bad. I am asking if we do not get a deal is that bad for the NHS? You

:49:25. > :49:30.are showing a lot of respect to be this morning, thank you for that,

:49:31. > :49:36.but what I am clearly saying is that a good deal would be best for the

:49:37. > :49:39.NHS. Obviously, a bad deal would be the worst possible outcome for all

:49:40. > :49:44.public services. It would be bad for the country. The question is... I've

:49:45. > :49:48.an idea for you that I picked up from the side of a bus! We are

:49:49. > :49:54.paying, according to official figures, something like ?18 billion

:49:55. > :49:59.over next few years, ?12 billion over the next few years, to the EU.

:50:00. > :50:02.We could take money and spend it on the NHS! You could go to Philip

:50:03. > :50:06.Hammond and say this is what we need for the NHS, I'm on the front line,

:50:07. > :50:11.we should spend that and promised the British people that in the

:50:12. > :50:15.election campaign? We are promising the British people a credible

:50:16. > :50:20.promise that as this government has shown, an extra ?6.5 billion over

:50:21. > :50:26.the last three years in the NHS, we will continue to put more money in,

:50:27. > :50:30.we need a strong economy, we will not promise things we don't deliver.

:50:31. > :50:34.My worry about some of the promises you hear from Labour is if you make

:50:35. > :50:38.promises on the NHS and find you cannot deliver, on things like

:50:39. > :50:42.nurses pay, what ends up happening is you had to lay off nurses from

:50:43. > :50:49.our wards and you go straight back to all of the problems we had with

:50:50. > :50:53.mid Staffordshire. You know about stroke care better than many people.

:50:54. > :50:57.I think that stroke is a very good example about the good things that

:50:58. > :51:01.are happening as well as challenges in the NHS. According to the OECD,

:51:02. > :51:04.we have seen the biggest improvements in stroke care in this

:51:05. > :51:08.country, saving thousands more lives. A fantastic thing, but what

:51:09. > :51:14.we now have this new technologies which can save even more lives. What

:51:15. > :51:19.I want is funding for the NHS to be able to do that new technology and I

:51:20. > :51:23.know that with a strong Theresa May, battling for Britain against those

:51:24. > :51:27.other countries, we have the best chance of getting that deal. It is

:51:28. > :51:31.looking pretty cantankerous at the moment, it has been a very

:51:32. > :51:35.cantankerous week on both sides? People would be thinking, what I do

:51:36. > :51:40.not want is a punch-up but growing up negotiations with mutual respect.

:51:41. > :51:45.I do not want to hear the Juncker saying one thing and Theresa May

:51:46. > :51:50.coming back, thump, thump, thump? We all want that but there is something

:51:51. > :51:54.very different about this election. In a normal election you choose the

:51:55. > :51:58.Prime Minister for five years but now we are choosing a Prime Minister

:51:59. > :52:02.who will do Brexit negotiations that are going to last for generations.

:52:03. > :52:06.Before we come back to that... Sorry, before we come back to that

:52:07. > :52:10.you are announcing big changes on mental health this week. Tearing up

:52:11. > :52:15.the Mental Health Act, and I wonder why? You are going to appoint 10,000

:52:16. > :52:20.new mental health experts, but you have sacked 6000 of these people in

:52:21. > :52:26.the last few years, what is going on? This is a very important

:52:27. > :52:30.decision that we are going to deal with, two real injustices. If you

:52:31. > :52:34.have a child with severe mental health problems, and you find that

:52:35. > :52:38.child, instead of being treated by the NHS, ending up in a police cell,

:52:39. > :52:42.that is a terrible thing for the child and would probably make their

:52:43. > :52:49.condition worse. It is also very bad for police. We want to stop that and

:52:50. > :52:53.stop the fact that one in six of us have a mental health disorder. Can a

:52:54. > :52:56.government stop that? We want to stop the fact that you can lose your

:52:57. > :52:59.job for that and suffer from discrimination in a way that you

:53:00. > :53:06.would not be able to suffer now if you were disabled or with other

:53:07. > :53:09.conditions. We want to address this. Theresa May has an important

:53:10. > :53:14.economic mission to get the best Brexit deal and protect Britain's

:53:15. > :53:18.jobs and the economy. She said on the steps of Downing Street that she

:53:19. > :53:23.has a social mission, she wants a country that works for everyone. Is

:53:24. > :53:27.there a new money for this? In January we said that we were put in

:53:28. > :53:32.an extra ?1 billion into these services... Coming from other parts

:53:33. > :53:37.of the NHS, or new money to the NHS? New money going into the NHS, going

:53:38. > :53:42.into mental health. It isn't just money but having those people who

:53:43. > :53:45.deliver these jobs, which is why we need 10,000 extra professionals. You

:53:46. > :53:51.spoke about Brexit several times, can I ask if the Cabinet understand

:53:52. > :53:56.why and how the European Commission is trying to interfere and read our

:53:57. > :53:59.election campaign? It is telling for everyone to see -- playing for

:54:00. > :54:04.everyone to see. Because Brexit is a significant issue overshadowing

:54:05. > :54:09.everything, it is a decision made by the British people. What people can

:54:10. > :54:13.see is that Labour, the little Democrats and the SNP have all said

:54:14. > :54:17.that they disagree with Theresa May's approach. What we are saying

:54:18. > :54:20.is every vote for Theresa May is go to strengthen her hand in those

:54:21. > :54:24.negotiations because they will say to the Europeans who are causing

:54:25. > :54:27.some of those problems that the country is foursquare behind Theresa

:54:28. > :54:31.May and getting the best deal for Britain. She said they were

:54:32. > :54:35.deliberately interfering in this country's collection to produce

:54:36. > :54:39.this? You'd think they are interfering to help Jeremy Corbyn

:54:40. > :54:44.against the Prime Minister, is that the allegation? They did not have to

:54:45. > :54:48.leak these reports to newspapers of the dinners that happened in the

:54:49. > :54:53.middle of an election campaign. Why did they do it? It is the wrong

:54:54. > :54:57.approach to negotiations. We want good negotiations and a good

:54:58. > :55:02.outcome... The Prime Minister, I'm sorry, said this was about fixing

:55:03. > :55:05.our election. How are they doing that, and in whose favour? You will

:55:06. > :55:11.have too asked them why they chose to do that. I think the answer is

:55:12. > :55:13.clear -- you will have to ask them. They are going to leak reports

:55:14. > :55:20.undermining Theresa May's position... What the British people

:55:21. > :55:24.know is for them to decide on this, not for people from other

:55:25. > :55:27.countries... Are they trying to damage the Conservatives in this?

:55:28. > :55:31.This needs to be the presumption... We are saying they should not be

:55:32. > :55:35.doing that as it is an election for the British people. The commission

:55:36. > :55:43.is trying to damage the conservative cause by intervening, and assist

:55:44. > :55:45.opposition parties? We are saying that should not happen. Jeremy Hunt,

:55:46. > :55:47.thank you for talking to us. And coming up later this morning,

:55:48. > :55:50.Andrew Neil will be talking about the election and more

:55:51. > :55:53.with the Shadow Justice Secretary, Labour's Richard Burgon MP,

:55:54. > :55:55.Lib Dem health spokesman Norman Lamb That's the Sunday Politics

:55:56. > :55:59.at 11am on BBC One. Next Sunday, I'll be

:56:00. > :56:02.joined by the SNP leader and Scotland's First Minister,

:56:03. > :56:06.Nicola Sturgeon. But for now, I'm sure his legions

:56:07. > :56:09.of fans will be delighted that we are closing the show

:56:10. > :56:11.with Rag n Bone Man. His album's gone Platinum

:56:12. > :56:15.and he won the Critics' Choice Award at the Brits,

:56:16. > :56:18.a title previously held by Adele. From his album, "Human",

:56:19. > :56:24.here he is with Skin. Explorer Alice Morrison is taking

:56:25. > :59:06.an epic 2,000-mile trek across the Sahara,

:59:07. > :59:11.over the Atlas Mountains... ..and through ancient history.

:59:12. > :59:14.I love touching history.