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:00:00. > :00:00.date. And when showbiz meets sport. One Direction's member makes his

:00:00. > :00:18.debut for Doncaster. Hello. Welcome to our look ahead to

:00:19. > :00:23.what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me is barrister

:00:24. > :00:27.Sophia Cannon and Martin Bentham of the London Evening Standard. Let's

:00:28. > :00:31.look at tomorrow morning's front pages. The Independent is leading on

:00:32. > :00:36.the crisis in Ukraine, saying Russia is now on a war footing. The

:00:37. > :00:40.Financial Times has the same top story, focusing on the stern

:00:41. > :00:43.response from the White House, warning Russia to respect Ukrainian

:00:44. > :00:49.territory. The Telegraph says couples will soon be able to draft

:00:50. > :00:52.their own route delivered a divorce settlement without going to court.

:00:53. > :00:58.The picture is of Lee Rigby's Sun and widow. Front page of the

:00:59. > :01:01.Guardian is dominated by pictures of thousands of people waiting for food

:01:02. > :01:05.and a Syrian refugee camp. The main stories on the scale domestic

:01:06. > :01:09.violence faced women and children in Britain. The Metro has the soldier

:01:10. > :01:15.Lee Rigby's picture, beside the headline for a life.

:01:16. > :01:22.The Express says that some of us may expect snow soon. It's on the way,

:01:23. > :01:28.folks. We are going to start with the Telegraph. The picture there of

:01:29. > :01:32.Lee Rigby, the soldiers brutally killed by two men in Woolwich. That

:01:33. > :01:39.is his wife and that is his son, there. The judge, handing down

:01:40. > :01:44.sentences today, Sofia. What is interesting, in his comments while

:01:45. > :01:49.sentencing, he referred to them as radical extremist spew espouse the

:01:50. > :01:54.cause and views which are a betrayal of Islam and of the peaceful Muslim

:01:55. > :01:59.communities that give so much to our country. That freaked them out. They

:02:00. > :02:04.completely lost it in the dock. They see themselves as the true

:02:05. > :02:09.inheritors of Islam? Indeed. I think Mr Justice Sweeney's comments were

:02:10. > :02:17.for the wider unity of this country. It is so easy, is it not, for this

:02:18. > :02:20.case to be appropriated by the far right, by those with a particular

:02:21. > :02:27.political purpose, to incite racial or religious hatred. Like the

:02:28. > :02:29.English Defence League? Indeed. It was repositioning Islam as a

:02:30. > :02:36.religion of peace, the fact that these two converts have put forward

:02:37. > :02:41.a perversion of Islam in such a dramatic way. It has to be quashed,

:02:42. > :02:46.here and now. It was exactly what the relatives and the front page of

:02:47. > :02:51.the Telegraph, having the wife and his son, it is what the family

:02:52. > :02:55.wanted? Absolutely. They could possibly have got a whole life term

:02:56. > :02:59.for both, but apart from that, the sentences are as low as possible,

:03:00. > :03:03.pretty much. I don't think either of them will ever emerge again. There

:03:04. > :03:07.has been a process, they have both faced justice. That is one fortunate

:03:08. > :03:11.thing, it sounds terrible word to use in this circumstance, but these

:03:12. > :03:14.two men wanted to die as martyrs. They are not going to die as

:03:15. > :03:19.martyrs, they have not been granted that privilege, they might see it,

:03:20. > :03:22.that glory, and so on. They are going to have to languish in prison

:03:23. > :03:26.for the rest of their lives, which is a very good thing. Indeed. OK, we

:03:27. > :03:33.are going to stay with the Telegraph as well. You could be out of a job,

:03:34. > :03:37.soon? DIY divorce is to cut lawyers' bills. Apparently there

:03:38. > :03:41.will be an online calculator, potentially, where couples can work

:03:42. > :03:46.out who owes what and how they should divide up their property, so

:03:47. > :03:53.on and so forth, to cut the bills of having to employ a lawyer to do

:03:54. > :03:56.that. Indeed. Commissioned report actually brings clarity and

:03:57. > :04:00.predictability we hope, to divorce, so that couples have an idea before

:04:01. > :04:04.they sit down, before they walk down the aisle, of course, to know is

:04:05. > :04:11.that a much they are going to pay if they do divorce. Notwithstanding the

:04:12. > :04:14.fact that we have now got several equal marriage. We now have gay

:04:15. > :04:19.marriage is coming in, equal marriage is coming into the frame

:04:20. > :04:24.here. We have more people wanting to get married and, indeed, more

:04:25. > :04:28.assets. And potentially more divorces. One wonders why this

:04:29. > :04:32.hasn't been done before. Because, unfortunately, it is not quite as

:04:33. > :04:35.simple as it might appear. They have spent two years, the Law

:04:36. > :04:40.Commission, looking at this. This formula they are talking about is

:04:41. > :04:43.something called in Canada the cookie cutter formula, where you

:04:44. > :04:46.can't delete it on the length of time you have been together,

:04:47. > :04:52.earnings, so on. Their role is also of occasions in the report. It says

:04:53. > :04:59.you get an idea beforehand what you might get out but it is a rough

:05:00. > :05:04.guide rather than a precise one that can be adjusted. You can have been

:05:05. > :05:07.actual agreements, but that can be overridden by the needs of children

:05:08. > :05:11.and different parties. There are still a lot of complexity, it is

:05:12. > :05:16.just a way of trying to make the broader framework of it clearer and

:05:17. > :05:23.simpler. There is always going to be, we call them the Call The

:05:24. > :05:26.Midwife wife, they have been married since the 50s, they are going to be

:05:27. > :05:29.seen differently by the legal process than the younger wife that

:05:30. > :05:32.has been married for a couple of years and there is no children. This

:05:33. > :05:37.is a good way of looking forward to how we can bring predict ability

:05:38. > :05:41.into the process of getting divorced. Is there a wider issue?

:05:42. > :05:44.I'm interested on your comments on this, being in the legal profession,

:05:45. > :05:50.is there a wider sense that the legal profession in this country has

:05:51. > :05:54.sat untouched for a long time? We have seen reform of the public

:05:55. > :05:58.services, the union is taking part off Not a Paul! We have seen banks

:05:59. > :06:03.taken to task. Is the legal profession finally being brought in

:06:04. > :06:07.from the cold? We are seeing changes to legal aid and that being cut, now

:06:08. > :06:16.this Law Commission, finally, this last Bastian is being modern eyes?

:06:17. > :06:22.We have always been modern. The sheer fact that I am here, on

:06:23. > :06:25.merit, means that the legal profession is one where you can be

:06:26. > :06:28.certain of getting the best. It does not matter if your barrister is

:06:29. > :06:35.young or old, whether that barrister is black or white, you have the best

:06:36. > :06:39.of the best, being presented in criminal or civil cases. But this

:06:40. > :06:42.actually goes back to the previous batch of legal aid cuts, which

:06:43. > :06:50.removed legal aid for divorce cases. Most people are going to have to

:06:51. > :06:53.sort it out at their own experience deliberate Spence. Most people don't

:06:54. > :06:59.want to pay legal bills and will find ways of avoiding that. It is

:07:00. > :07:04.potentially going to make prenuptial agreements legally binding, which

:07:05. > :07:09.again cuts you folk out? The But who is going to draft them? I am a

:07:10. > :07:16.former law student myself, I think you are as well? No? Not at all.

:07:17. > :07:22.There is a sense that you guys have had it too easy for too long? The

:07:23. > :07:27.whole idea of fat cat barristers is a myth. Many, many barristers, up

:07:28. > :07:32.and down the country, are working for ?30 a day, even. You need to be

:07:33. > :07:39.aware of that, that if you are arrested, late at night, God, you

:07:40. > :07:43.hope, you hope that the barrister that attends you next morning is

:07:44. > :07:48.someone who has the idea of how to protect you without fear or favour.

:07:49. > :07:52.Not working in their wallet first. I have been well and truly slapped

:07:53. > :07:57.down. If I am arrested in the middle of the night, I am calling you. That

:07:58. > :08:04.go on to the Independent, Ukraine, Vladimir Putin puts Russia on a war

:08:05. > :08:11.footing. Sabre rattling from Moscow, but are they likely to cross the

:08:12. > :08:15.border? One would think not, but who knows? It's impossible to read. It

:08:16. > :08:18.would seem to be, as you have said, sabre rattling, Russia wanted to

:08:19. > :08:23.assert its authority and not be shut out of this whole debate, protect

:08:24. > :08:28.the Russian minority in the country and the areas in which, Crimea being

:08:29. > :08:32.one, where there is a Russian majority. There are a lot of Russian

:08:33. > :08:38.citizens living in Ukraine in general. Clearly, Vladimir Putin is

:08:39. > :08:41.wanting to assert himself, wanting to have the Russian viewpoint taken

:08:42. > :08:45.into consideration to protect its citizens. Whether it leads to

:08:46. > :08:51.anything more, I would doubt. But then, you can read what he... That's

:08:52. > :08:58.it, he went to war in 2008, he marched into Georgia. There is

:08:59. > :09:02.formed Indeed. We have to ask ourselves, are we looking at the

:09:03. > :09:09.second premiere in war? The iron curtain has moved east, from Warsaw

:09:10. > :09:14.to hear. The aspirations of its people have moved west. I don't

:09:15. > :09:20.think we'll be involved, this time! The Crimean War without us, we

:09:21. > :09:27.sincerely hope. The Guardian, 10,000 at risk of domestic violence? This

:09:28. > :09:34.is where legal aid comes in and you're going to need a barrister to

:09:35. > :09:38.represent you on either side of the domestic violence. If you falsely

:09:39. > :09:41.accused, or if you are suffering from domestic violence. The problem

:09:42. > :09:47.is that legal aid is available to women men who have suffered domestic

:09:48. > :09:51.violence. But it is a hard test to prove. Many solicitors are finding

:09:52. > :09:54.it extremely difficult to obtain legal aid funding for their

:09:55. > :09:59.clients. And their clients are having to attend, on their own, in

:10:00. > :10:02.court, before a judge, when they are alleging domestic violence. This

:10:03. > :10:09.story, it is talking about the sheer scale of it. 10,000 living in risk?

:10:10. > :10:12.It is based on police assessments, one of the points it makes in the

:10:13. > :10:16.story, perhaps understandable, though not as I report, is that

:10:17. > :10:20.there is a great variation in the way that different forces assess

:10:21. > :10:23.things. Perhaps that is inevitable, it shouldn't be the case in a

:10:24. > :10:31.theoretical world, but perhaps it is inevitable, as with lots of crime

:10:32. > :10:35.statistics. Sussex, 211 women at high risk of homicide or serious

:10:36. > :10:41.harm, in Surrey 17, in the Metropolitan Police area, a very big

:10:42. > :10:45.one, 87, apparently. So, you can see the different ways of calculating,

:10:46. > :10:53.in itself, are very varied. That raises a question as well. If men

:10:54. > :10:57.were dying at the rate that women were dying, one`and`a`half a week...

:10:58. > :10:59.As a result of domestic violence? There would have been a Royal

:11:00. > :11:04.Commission by now. It is not just that these are random women. They

:11:05. > :11:09.are identifiable women. It is predictable. They have raised the

:11:10. > :11:12.red flags already and they have come to the notice of their police

:11:13. > :11:16.forces, or social service departments, and they are still

:11:17. > :11:21.dying. I'm not sure what a Royal Commission would achieve myself.

:11:22. > :11:25.There are a lot of people in this position. On the other hand, how you

:11:26. > :11:29.pick out ` there are cases here ` there is one here that a jury has

:11:30. > :11:33.found in the case in Sussex that the police and CPS failed to take steps

:11:34. > :11:37.that would have prevented a woman's death and so on. There are cases and

:11:38. > :11:40.there are some very bad cases of that sort. I don't think it is (a)

:11:41. > :11:44.the authorities are not trying to do the right thing ` and sometimes with

:11:45. > :11:49.hindsight these things can look very easy. I'm not sure what a talking

:11:50. > :11:53.shop would achieve. It is not a talking shop. It is to look at the

:11:54. > :11:58.magnitude of how many women are dying in these circumstances that

:11:59. > :12:01.are predictable. That is the thing we will need to note, they are

:12:02. > :12:09.predictable, identifiable, what are we doing about it? The implications

:12:10. > :12:17.for society for having children who die at the ` women and children who

:12:18. > :12:22.die at the hands of their fathers is an ongoing issue. It is going to

:12:23. > :12:26.damage society. Right. OK. We will very briefly ` we will skip the

:12:27. > :12:31.Telegraph, or The Financial Times. We will go to the Telegraph Business

:12:32. > :12:35.Section. Ryanair is pledging New York flights for ten euros. How can

:12:36. > :12:40.they afford to do that? They have to buy the long`haul aircraft that they

:12:41. > :12:48.need! So this is years down the road, right? That's the immediate

:12:49. > :12:51.catch! Damn! I was looking forward to Thanksgiving in New York! They

:12:52. > :12:57.are going to have certain business and first`class seats in there which

:12:58. > :13:01.will be an unusual thing. Yes. That would subsidise... The other thing

:13:02. > :13:06.is how many seats would be sold at this price? It might be one on each

:13:07. > :13:10.flight. Yes. Is he going to charge you every step you walk up the steps

:13:11. > :13:15.so that by the time you get on the plane, your ticket is... It is a new

:13:16. > :13:21.fun Ryanair now(!) Their profits are down so they are changing all that.

:13:22. > :13:24.I'm not convinced yet. Alright. You wait to be convinced. You will be

:13:25. > :13:28.back in an hour's time to look at more of the stories behind the

:13:29. > :13:33.headlines. Stay with us on BBC News because at the top of the hour, we

:13:34. > :13:36.will hear the latest from Northern Ireland and the First Minister

:13:37. > :13:40.there, Peter Robinson, who is warning prosecutions could still be

:13:41. > :13:43.made against those who have received letters of assurance from the

:13:44. > :13:44.Government that they won't be prosecuted. Stay with us for that.

:13:45. > :14:02.Coming up now, Sportsday. Good evening. I'm Ore Oduba and

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