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:00:00. > :00:00.down from British cycling to concentrate on Team Sky and we'll

:00:00. > :00:08.have the results of the meeting of the top two in Super League. That's

:00:09. > :00:22.all after the Papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

:00:23. > :00:25.to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are the writer

:00:26. > :00:29.Dreda Say Mitchell and Jeremy Cliffe of The Economist. Thank you both for

:00:30. > :00:33.coming in, this evening. A look at tomorrow's front pages. We'll start

:00:34. > :00:36.with the Financial Times. That says the Government will make it easier

:00:37. > :00:41.to prosecute people who evade taxes by hiding money off`shore.

:00:42. > :00:45.The Independent says Parliament's expenses watchdog will look into

:00:46. > :00:51.claims the taxpayer indirectly funded a suite for what the paper

:00:52. > :00:56.calls "a sex party" during a Conservative Party Conference. Of

:00:57. > :01:00.the Telegraph says families with stay`at`home parents pay more tax

:01:01. > :01:04.than most of their equivalents across the developed world.

:01:05. > :01:10.The Mirror leads on the Oscar Pistorius trial.

:01:11. > :01:15.The Mail reports on allegations that the liberal Party, police and MI5

:01:16. > :01:19.covered up child abecause committed by the former MP, Smith.

:01:20. > :01:24.The Express says there is confidence that the black box from the missing

:01:25. > :01:26.Malaysian airliner will soon be found.

:01:27. > :01:30.A senior Liberal Democrat MP has told the times his party is

:01:31. > :01:34."pointless." And the Guardian says the Attorney`General wants an

:01:35. > :01:37.explanation from the Crown Prosecution Service about the failed

:01:38. > :01:43.prosecution of public figures for alleged sex offences.

:01:44. > :01:47.So, those are some of the front pages we have been getting in so

:01:48. > :01:53.far. We'll start this evening with the Daily Telegraph and a story

:01:54. > :01:58.about how actually ` well, it might be unfair or it might not. Why don't

:01:59. > :02:02.you kick off, it is a story suggesting that couples with a

:02:03. > :02:06.stay`at`home mum pay more than the international average It is unfair

:02:07. > :02:10.depending of your point of view or family make`up. Most people in

:02:11. > :02:15.Britain, the story resounts have lower tax than the average in the

:02:16. > :02:20.OECD group. Apart from those of which one parent goes to work and

:02:21. > :02:23.the other one stays at home to look after children. The tone of the

:02:24. > :02:27.article is negative about this describing it as a failure of the

:02:28. > :02:32.Government's intention to correct that, by allowing partners to

:02:33. > :02:35.exchange tax allowances. That said, what struck me reading this is it

:02:36. > :02:38.doesn't take into account the big elephant in the room in this story

:02:39. > :02:44.which is childcare. Childcare in Britain is much more expensive than

:02:45. > :02:48.other European countries which in a way is a tax on parents who go to

:02:49. > :02:52.work. You were nodding vigorously. I was, not that I have any children.

:02:53. > :02:56.But this is what I hear from people I know, how expensive childcare is.

:02:57. > :02:59.It was interesting. When I looked at this story, the big thing that

:03:00. > :03:04.jumped out at me, it seemed to be really saying about stay`at`home

:03:05. > :03:10.parents, this is what we want mothers to be doing in Britain.

:03:11. > :03:14.Well, hay hey, the rest of us have moved on. You were talking about

:03:15. > :03:18.transferrable tax. Every time I see a story about tax, I get confused,

:03:19. > :03:22.what is transferrable and what is this type of tax. I would imagine

:03:23. > :03:26.many people in Britain are like me. Who are the winners and losers with

:03:27. > :03:30.regard to tax? It would be true to say that this Government is trying

:03:31. > :03:33.to encourage mums to stay at home while their children are young and

:03:34. > :03:36.the tax regulations would be anything other than that, this would

:03:37. > :03:41.suggest. They have tried to loaf that option open to people. The

:03:42. > :03:45.story notes. They have tried to use a transferrable allowance to make it

:03:46. > :03:48.possible. But as you say, I wonder how many parents would choose to

:03:49. > :03:51.have one staying at home looking after the children if they could

:03:52. > :03:55.afford the childcare. For many, going to work isn't worth the effort

:03:56. > :03:57.because the money you earn goes straight back out to the nursery or

:03:58. > :04:01.creche. We will stay with the Telegraph.

:04:02. > :04:07.Another story which is interesting and one I know you feel passionate

:04:08. > :04:11.about. The headline ` teach ten`year`olds Bill legal drugs says

:04:12. > :04:17.the advisor. At the`year`olds, really? I think Professor Simon

:04:18. > :04:21.Gibbons, he is passionate that ten`year`olds and it is not just

:04:22. > :04:25.ten`year`olds, it is 10, 11, 12`year`olds, this whole notion of

:04:26. > :04:29.not just primary schoolchildren, children in muddle school. It is a

:04:30. > :04:32.much bigger agenda, it is not just about drugs on its own, about the

:04:33. > :04:35.health agenda. If we are thinking about the National Health Service in

:04:36. > :04:39.the future, what we need to be thinking about is about getting less

:04:40. > :04:43.people to come to the National Health Service. Really what we want

:04:44. > :04:46.to be thinking about is educating our children about thinks that

:04:47. > :04:51.really influence their health and we know a big one is drugs. You know,

:04:52. > :04:55.the impact that that has on someone's body. We should nted shy

:04:56. > :04:59.away with it with children as long as it is done and I know teachers

:05:00. > :05:03.will do it in a very responsible way. There is this argument that if

:05:04. > :05:11.you, start talking about something, a bit like sex education that it may

:05:12. > :05:16.try to en encourage them to doll something you are trying to prevent

:05:17. > :05:19.them. I think it is a false argument. Do you want them to

:05:20. > :05:23.encounter things like drugs and sex before they have learned about them

:05:24. > :05:33.in school or the other way around? I think Professor Gibbons is right to

:05:34. > :05:36.say it is taught in school before they come to hearing about it

:05:37. > :05:41.outside the school walls. You are both in agreement, so we will move

:05:42. > :05:46.on. The Financial Times, Osborne tightens net on takes havens. I

:05:47. > :05:49.don't know. There has been a lot of this throughout the years. We'll

:05:50. > :05:53.clampdown. Is there anything in it that you think is a good idea? To

:05:54. > :05:56.give him credit, George Osborne is really shifting the Government's

:05:57. > :05:59.policy on this. Before, you had to prove that someone had an intention

:06:00. > :06:04.to evade tax before you could prosecute them. He is changing that

:06:05. > :06:08.and saying ` even if you didn't know what you were doing was illegal, you

:06:09. > :06:12.still risk criminal prosecution. I think it is a big step forward in

:06:13. > :06:17.terms of prosecuting tax evasion. The point that the article makes,

:06:18. > :06:22.rightly, is we hear even more about benefit fraud in the papers a and in

:06:23. > :06:27.our political debates yet the amount lost from the exchequer to benefit

:06:28. > :06:30.fraud is about 1% to the amount lost on tax evasion. He is right to crack

:06:31. > :06:34.down and if I may say so, politically sensible. It brings

:06:35. > :06:39.money into the Treasury and is on the side of the ordinary person.

:06:40. > :06:42.Will it succeed? Absolutely. That's the problem. I wouldn't sayesque

:06:43. > :06:49.kraing down. I think he is using a lot of words about this. He is using

:06:50. > :06:55.` this article used words like "consult" and possibly have to

:06:56. > :06:59.demonstrate." It sounds terribly long`winded. The thing about tax has

:07:00. > :07:03.been that people have actually said that ` not a will the has been done.

:07:04. > :07:07.However, if you think about small scale fraud a heck of a lot has been

:07:08. > :07:12.done, like Jeremy sides with regards to benefits and other type of small

:07:13. > :07:17.scale fraud. What is going to happen and this story is interesting ` they

:07:18. > :07:22.are saying once we have cracked it we'll get billions. Well, don't hold

:07:23. > :07:26.your breath basically. You are right the Chancellor has to follow`through

:07:27. > :07:30.but making clear his intention can have an affect on people's

:07:31. > :07:34.behaviour. People will be phoning up their lawyers and accountants. I

:07:35. > :07:38.just don't think no`one is frightened because it all sounds so

:07:39. > :07:43.lightweight. Where is the real heaviness here and the big guns? I

:07:44. > :07:49.don't think anyone will be frightened. Same old, same old. You

:07:50. > :07:54.need the nags law on your side. Unless everyone agrees it is

:07:55. > :07:57.difficult, the tax haven will shift. This is part of an international

:07:58. > :08:02.move. You are quite right to say the proof will be in the pudding.

:08:03. > :08:05.Absolutely. On to the Mirror. And Dreda, why don't you start with

:08:06. > :08:08.this. This is the Reeva Steenkamp story. It is one we have been

:08:09. > :08:12.covering, the pus pus pis trial, of course, here `` the Oscar Pistorius

:08:13. > :08:17.trial, of course, here on the BBC. The evidence being given, we can

:08:18. > :08:21.only hear Oscar Pistorius's voice because he has elected not to be

:08:22. > :08:25.televised but it is gripping, isn't it? This is the problem. There are

:08:26. > :08:31.lots of problems I think with this. One of the things that we use words

:08:32. > :08:34.like "gripping." This is a case about real people's lives. A woman

:08:35. > :08:38.has been shot to death. We talk about it as if it is a thriller

:08:39. > :08:44.almost. We can't wait for the next instalment. I think the big problem

:08:45. > :08:48.I have with this story is "enough already", really, if we are going to

:08:49. > :08:53.be reporting about South Africa, why are we not reporting about the

:08:54. > :08:57.thousands of miners on strike in South Africa? But we are reporting

:08:58. > :09:04.about a murder trial, who knows, a judgment has to actually be made and

:09:05. > :09:07.we are making it sensational and trivialising it. Do you think the

:09:08. > :09:14.papers shouldn't be reporting it? Sno not in a way. Why is it on the

:09:15. > :09:18.front page? If we are going to do a story about South Africa, why not

:09:19. > :09:23.the miners? Don't we do that with any news story. I don't think so. We

:09:24. > :09:26.are talking about thousands of people's lives and incomes with

:09:27. > :09:30.regards to the miners' story and the impact on all of those children and

:09:31. > :09:33.their families. And what are we doing? We are sensationalising a

:09:34. > :09:37.trial about a woman, that's about real people. They are not fictional

:09:38. > :09:42.characters. Jeremy, does the Economist do such? I don't think we

:09:43. > :09:46.have written on this but I think that there is a substantive policy

:09:47. > :09:50.issue in this, which is the question of cameras in court which has been

:09:51. > :09:53.discussed recently in Britain, I think and some Government ministers

:09:54. > :09:57.have suggested it would be a good thing to open up, to bring more

:09:58. > :10:01.transparency into our legal system but as you say, the great risk is

:10:02. > :10:07.that it ends up turning serious trials into soap operas by providing

:10:08. > :10:14.so much material that broadcasters and papers can use. There has almost

:10:15. > :10:18.been criticism at Prime Minister's Questions and while on the subject

:10:19. > :10:23.of politics, let's switch to the Times. An amazing headlines,

:10:24. > :10:30."Liberal Democrats are pointless", according to one of the party's most

:10:31. > :10:39.senior MPs. Who is this and why? You would think he had a book to sell,

:10:40. > :10:43.which he does. This is the former minister who is very much on the

:10:44. > :10:48.classical liberal side of the liberal Democrats. He is having a go

:10:49. > :10:52.at Nick Clegg, saying he is selling out to the left of his party. The

:10:53. > :10:57.Jeremy, this is a great betrayal in that he supported Nick Clegg because

:10:58. > :11:00.he saw in him a classical liberal approach to government, which is to

:11:01. > :11:05.say small tax, small government, getting out of people's we. But the

:11:06. > :11:11.pragmatic reality for Nick Legos that he has a party that has both

:11:12. > :11:19.that win, but also a more social democratic, left`leaning wing, and

:11:20. > :11:23.he has to reconcile the two. Do you think this would be damaging or will

:11:24. > :11:28.people not be that bothered? I don't think people will be that bothered.

:11:29. > :11:31.When I read this story, I read that someone was personally unhappy with

:11:32. > :11:38.somebody else. I am sure if I can make it up, they could say that.

:11:39. > :11:47.Going on to the Daily Express. And the ongoing search for Malaysian

:11:48. > :11:50.flight MH 37 stop `` 370. The Australian prime minister has not

:11:51. > :11:56.quite said the black box has been found. He is saying they are getting

:11:57. > :12:03.very close. This story has continued to dominate. It has, and even though

:12:04. > :12:09.he did not say it, once again, you have this thriller element. If you

:12:10. > :12:14.think about this story, it is tragic. We don't know what happened

:12:15. > :12:18.to these people. The tragedy is probably that they are no longer

:12:19. > :12:23.with us, but we are treating it almost like everyday, there is a new

:12:24. > :12:26.episode. It's a bit like Dickens, years ago. So in the same way that

:12:27. > :12:29.you were criticising the media for the Oscar Pistorius coverage, they

:12:30. > :12:35.are overdoing it on this as well? Well, what is new? We are getting

:12:36. > :12:40.nearer to the black box. How many times do we have to hear that they

:12:41. > :12:44.are detecting sound? Once again, remember that these were real people

:12:45. > :12:49.who have got families out there. We need to think about how we deal with

:12:50. > :12:56.emotional things and trauma for people. I hope we have found the

:12:57. > :12:59.black box. Jeremy? This was always bound to be a big story, simply

:13:00. > :13:08.because of the mystery surrounding it. It would be hard to resist it as

:13:09. > :13:12.a newspaper editor. Thank you both very much for your input this

:13:13. > :13:16.evening. That is it for the papers. I hope we will be back at 11:30pm

:13:17. > :13:22.for a follow`up. But stay with us on BBC News. At 11, we will have the

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