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:00:00. > :00:00.reporters today that he would like to be the one. Manchester United

:00:00. > :00:18.make an announcement next week. All of that to come in 15 minutes.

:00:19. > :00:22.`` West Brom. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

:00:23. > :00:28.to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are

:00:29. > :00:30.former government policy advisor and academic Zamila Bunglawala, and

:00:31. > :00:34.Oliver Wright, Whitehall editor at The Independent. Tomorrow's front

:00:35. > :00:37.pages, starting with The Metro leads on the capture of Michael Wheatley,

:00:38. > :00:41.the man known as the Skullcracker, who had been on the run from an open

:00:42. > :00:44.prison since Saturday. The Telegraph runs with the same story, reporting

:00:45. > :00:47.that the Justice Minister is promising a change in the prison

:00:48. > :00:49.release rules as a result of the case. The Daily Express has an

:00:50. > :00:53.entirely different story, it's warning that 60 mile an hour gales

:00:54. > :00:56.are set to hit Britain in the next few days. The Guardian features a

:00:57. > :00:59.photo collage of the social media protest against the kidnapping of

:01:00. > :01:06.over 200 school girls in northern Nigeria. The FT reports on Vladimir

:01:07. > :01:08.Putin's appeal to pro`Russia supporters in Eastern Ukraine to

:01:09. > :01:15.shelve a proposed independence referendum. The Mirror has a picture

:01:16. > :01:17.exclusive of fugitive Michael Wheatley, known as the Skull

:01:18. > :01:22.Cracker, being arrested after five days on the run from an open prison.

:01:23. > :01:25.Supermarkets and restaurant chans have millions of people are eating

:01:26. > :01:35.Halal meat without knowing it, claims the Daily Mail on its front

:01:36. > :01:38.page. And the Times reports that British SAS officers have joined in

:01:39. > :01:41.efforts to find and rescue the school girls kidnapped by Islamist

:01:42. > :01:51.group Boko Haram in Nigeria. So let's begin. Let's start with the

:01:52. > :01:55.Daily Mirror, this is the Skull Cracker quarter after five days on

:01:56. > :01:58.the run, they have a picture of him behind bars. It looks like he is

:01:59. > :02:07.handcuffed. It is an extraordinary story. `` he has been caught. This

:02:08. > :02:11.is a guy who has been in prison for 34 years now. Actually, he was

:02:12. > :02:15.probably on the verge of being released, most times when prisoners

:02:16. > :02:18.are about to be released they are put into open prisons which is where

:02:19. > :02:21.he was and where he escaped from. Despite the fact he was supposed to

:02:22. > :02:27.be released in the next year or so, he still went on the run, as he has

:02:28. > :02:35.done twice before. Last time he went on the run he carried out armed

:02:36. > :02:42.robberies. It is inexplicable, it defies logic. He is going to be in

:02:43. > :02:45.prison for a long time from now on. The government should not be saying

:02:46. > :02:49.that they should be changing the law, when they let people out, on

:02:50. > :02:52.the basis of this case. It sounds like good politics. It would be an

:02:53. > :02:59.effective policy. There is the suggestion that the Justice

:03:00. > :03:03.Department is going to look at this case to see if the law needs

:03:04. > :03:06.changing. He was in an open prison because he was potentially going to

:03:07. > :03:17.be released at some point quite soon in the future. One wonders if he is

:03:18. > :03:21.redeemable? After this many years in prison and still committing the same

:03:22. > :03:25.crimes it is a good question. We had to look at what rehabilitation he

:03:26. > :03:31.has received, before being let out into an open prison, but before we

:03:32. > :03:35.start reforming our prisons and the penal system, we need to look at the

:03:36. > :03:39.people we haven't prisons, the numbers are horrific. We have to

:03:40. > :03:44.look at it in the main. When people are let out of prison, what support

:03:45. > :03:48.do have? If this man escaped, maybe he thought he was not going to get

:03:49. > :03:54.any help and has gone back to his old ways. It has to be looked into.

:03:55. > :03:58.He has announced initiatives in the past, looking in to support that ex`

:03:59. > :04:07.offenders do have once they leave prison. It is part of the problem,

:04:08. > :04:11.that the sentencing guidelines means that judges hands are tied. They

:04:12. > :04:16.have too allow for a certain period when this man is in jail and is then

:04:17. > :04:24.released. Is that part of the problem or are judges thinking that

:04:25. > :04:29.prisons are overcrowded? The numbers do not stack up, 13 life sentences

:04:30. > :04:32.and he is out within eight years and is in an open prison. What does that

:04:33. > :04:36.mean to those who were hurt by him? We had to look at why our prisons

:04:37. > :04:39.need reforming, what the sentences mean in the long`term and what we

:04:40. > :04:43.are going to do with prisoners. Those who have to be released early,

:04:44. > :04:47.and those who have not committed as severe crimes as this, some people

:04:48. > :04:55.have rehabilitated and do deserve to be back on the streets. Their

:04:56. > :04:59.policies are not delivering on better systems for Prison Services.

:05:00. > :05:02.It is supposed to be a cornerstone of a so`called civilised society,

:05:03. > :05:13.that we allow prisoners the opportunity to be rehabilitated. Of

:05:14. > :05:16.course, and it has got to be. It is good politics but bad policy, you

:05:17. > :05:24.should not make laws on the basis of cases like this. Let's move on to

:05:25. > :05:28.the Times, this is the story which is in traction around the world now,

:05:29. > :05:36.British special forces are proudly joining the hunt for those 200 girls

:05:37. > :05:39.in northern Nigeria, there is Malala Yousafzai on the front, herself a

:05:40. > :05:45.victim of Islamist extremists in Pakistan. It is an incredible

:05:46. > :05:49.story, these girls have been missing for over three weeks. The

:05:50. > :05:53.international community, including Britain, is supporting this. How do

:05:54. > :05:56.we start talking about this issue of reality, that girls are not safe in

:05:57. > :06:00.schools? Malala Yousafzai herself was not safe in her school, this is

:06:01. > :06:05.not only something confined to Africa but it happens across the

:06:06. > :06:09.world. In this case, these girls are going to be sold. It is not that

:06:10. > :06:12.they are not safe and not allowed to go school, but they will be sold

:06:13. > :06:17.into slavery. That is the threat that has been made. Nigeria has

:06:18. > :06:21.questions to answer. How long it has taken for them to do something about

:06:22. > :06:23.it. It is good that the international community will support

:06:24. > :06:26.them but we have to find these girls. It is not looking hopeful

:06:27. > :06:33.that three weeks and we have no sign of where they are in this jungle.

:06:34. > :06:38.Boko Haram, the leader, clearly a nutter. He is saying that they are

:06:39. > :06:50.threatening to sell the girls into slavery. There is a lot of slavery

:06:51. > :06:54.across the board in Chad and Niger. He is not saying that because you

:06:55. > :06:58.would do what we want, we do not know what they are doing. We know

:06:59. > :07:01.that primarily they want to destabilise the Nigerian

:07:02. > :07:04.government. That is the ultimate aim. I am afraid it has proved an

:07:05. > :07:12.extraordinary effective way of doing that. It is so difficult. It is

:07:13. > :07:16.difficult for the Nigerian government and for countries like

:07:17. > :07:20.the UK and the US, to know how they can effectively help. It is all very

:07:21. > :07:25.well, you get good headlines, British special forces joining the

:07:26. > :07:31.hunt, but I would be a little questionable about how effective and

:07:32. > :07:35.how they would be operating in Nigeria. We had to find out what the

:07:36. > :07:41.African union is going to be doing about this, they are scented to a

:07:42. > :07:50.lot of conflict internally in the states. They know the territory

:07:51. > :07:56.better. `` they are sent into. The underlying issue is, in all

:07:57. > :08:00.convicts, women and girls are the first one to suffer, they are the

:08:01. > :08:06.first victims, and in this case, there are hundreds. Gender`based

:08:07. > :08:12.violence, it has been a problem in this case for the last two or three

:08:13. > :08:17.years. The Daily Mail reports that many people are eating Halal food

:08:18. > :08:21.without knowing it. It is not labelled in supermarkets. I cannot

:08:22. > :08:26.get excited about this story, it is an interesting issue, the Daily Mail

:08:27. > :08:30.have on the inside of their pages a big chart, they have a bunch of

:08:31. > :08:35.reporters doing a big ring around of the major supermarkets and take

:08:36. > :08:43.ways, asking about the macro to meet policy. One of their policies are if

:08:44. > :08:49.animals were slaughtered after being stunned. `` Halal policy. The RSPCA

:08:50. > :08:58.do say that they don't have a problem with Halal meet, so long as

:08:59. > :09:02.the animals are stunned `` meat. There is not a quote from anyone in

:09:03. > :09:07.the article saying that they do not like the idea of eating this meat if

:09:08. > :09:12.the animal is not stunned. So, what is the fuss? If this was kosher

:09:13. > :09:18.meat, would we be making such a big deal of it? I am throwing that

:09:19. > :09:26.question open. It is an interesting point. We seem to continuously talk

:09:27. > :09:31.about Muslims and the issues surrounding this, including halal

:09:32. > :09:37.food, if this was kosher meat, would we be saying this? It has ultimately

:09:38. > :09:43.been a business decision by these companies, to sell this meet, they

:09:44. > :09:52.are not required by law to label it. Perhaps we should look at the law,

:09:53. > :09:57.`` meat. So far, it is a business decision that has been made. It is

:09:58. > :10:01.economical for them. They do not serve the national market but are

:10:02. > :10:05.exporting to markets where this food does have to be halal. There is an

:10:06. > :10:11.opinion bit in here about New Zealand lamb being halal, more than

:10:12. > :10:16.70% is, because they sell a lot of their meat to Arab countries. If it

:10:17. > :10:22.was kosher, I am confident it would not be a headline, but now that it

:10:23. > :10:25.is, if the animal is stunned, why is it a big story? It is interesting.

:10:26. > :10:31.Let's go to the Independent, middle`aged women on the scrapheap.

:10:32. > :10:39.You are a very young woman! Stop digging Clive! What I was going to

:10:40. > :10:47.say is that you are not on the scrapheap because you are here on

:10:48. > :10:54.the papers section. But I mess that up! It is difficult to know how to

:10:55. > :10:58.follow! It is a disturbing for a number of reasons `` messed. We have

:10:59. > :11:02.pushed up the pension age. We know that we want women to be work for

:11:03. > :11:08.longer. Women want to be in work for longer, but if the jobs are not

:11:09. > :11:13.available, 45% of women more are unemployed. Versus 35% of men. Men

:11:14. > :11:17.are getting the jobs while women are being told to work longer. It is

:11:18. > :11:22.greater inequality in the UK for women to be suffering these types of

:11:23. > :11:26.numbers in employment. Women want to work not finding the jobs. A lot

:11:27. > :11:31.more men are becoming employed at the same time. We had to know what

:11:32. > :11:35.is happening in terms of gender discrimination, is it age and gender

:11:36. > :11:39.disc relation they are facing? What is interesting about this story is

:11:40. > :11:46.the number of women who get on the government 's work programme `` get

:11:47. > :11:50.jobs on the governments work programme. `` discrimination. They

:11:51. > :11:57.want to go back to work and want to contribute. Your point about the

:11:58. > :12:01.pension age is an important one. You have to ask, why is that? What other

:12:02. > :12:06.problems? The Department of and pensions say that the proportion of

:12:07. > :12:11.women in work has never been higher but that is not the same. `` the

:12:12. > :12:14.Department of Work and Pensions. There have been a lot of headlines,

:12:15. > :12:19.especially in the Telegraph, about more women going out to work. The

:12:20. > :12:32.cause of economic circumstances, and the current economic problems. And

:12:33. > :12:35.we aren't talking about what skills or education women have, which is

:12:36. > :12:40.probably very high because they are of the generation that did go to

:12:41. > :12:45.university. What the question is, gender discrimination is still very

:12:46. > :12:50.real. These women are suffering it, compared to men of the same age.

:12:51. > :12:54.What you suspect is happening is because of the change in the

:12:55. > :12:57.pensions age and the squeeze on living standards, a lot of women in

:12:58. > :13:02.that age group are saying, I do need to go back to work. They have

:13:03. > :13:07.probably been out off the work force. Time and their skills may not

:13:08. > :13:11.be up`to`date as somebody younger, so they are not being chosen. But

:13:12. > :13:16.they have families and have people they are supporting, which is

:13:17. > :13:24.difficult. What you do as a society to address that will be important.

:13:25. > :13:30.And given David Cameron's inability, the Conservative's

:13:31. > :13:36.inability, to connect with a `` with the majority of women voters.

:13:37. > :13:50.Staying with the Independent, Odessa, the cultural melting pot

:13:51. > :13:55.boils over. This is a report from the Ukraine and is away from the

:13:56. > :14:02.focus of things, which has been in the east of Ukraine. It is a

:14:03. > :14:06.complicated story. But the key thing is that says this is much murkier

:14:07. > :14:10.and the problems in the Ukraine don't just extend in the east. It is

:14:11. > :14:18.difficult to see who the good and bad guys are. The messages, this

:14:19. > :14:24.isn't black and white. `` message is. It is worth reading, it's a

:14:25. > :14:29.great piece. I read bits of it and it looks amazing. This is

:14:30. > :14:34.interesting in the context of what Vladimir Putin was seen today, that

:14:35. > :14:42.he doesn't feel there should be this referendum on the east of the

:14:43. > :14:46.country. He has always known it `` we have always known it's a

:14:47. > :14:49.complicated situation and it isn't necessarily a good thing for him to

:14:50. > :14:53.take over the whole of the east of Ukraine. Maybe we don't read about

:14:54. > :14:57.this internal conflicts as much because they aren't directly

:14:58. > :15:02.affected by the sanctions and geographically where it is. But a

:15:03. > :15:07.lot of what we talk about in terms of Russia currently is the

:15:08. > :15:10.international impact and how we in the West might feel differences. But

:15:11. > :15:14.many people are suffering. The article is about people who have

:15:15. > :15:18.died and women who have been raped. These things are continuing. It is a

:15:19. > :15:22.complex picture. Some things don't get as many headlines. A good

:15:23. > :15:29.piece. Very interesting. It has been great having you in. Thank you. Stay

:15:30. > :15:35.with us. At the top of the hour, more on the fugitive robber, the

:15:36. > :15:40.so`called Skull Cracker who is now behind bars again. Time for

:15:41. > :15:52.Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm

:15:53. > :15:55.Lizzie Greenwood`Hughes. The headlines this evening: The title is

:15:56. > :16:00.theirs to lose. Manchester City put four past Aston Villa to storm to

:16:01. > :16:03.the top of the Premier League table. Sunderland make the great escape,

:16:04. > :16:05.beating West Brom 2`0, but the result