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:00:00. > :00:16.mid`fielder and Andy Murray breezes into the third round in the French

:00:17. > :00:24.Open in tennis. Hello there. Welcome to the look

:00:25. > :00:31.ahead to the papers tomorrow. With me, David Davies and Anne

:00:32. > :00:36.Ashworth an assistant editor at the Times. We start with the Express. It

:00:37. > :00:39.is saying that UK doctors are winning the war against high blood

:00:40. > :00:43.pressure. The Government is hiring debt

:00:44. > :00:47.collectors to chase hundreds of thousands of people whose tax

:00:48. > :00:52.credits were overpaid, according to the Independent. The new Chief

:00:53. > :00:56.Executive of the NHS has told the Daily Telegraph that there must be

:00:57. > :01:01.more treatment of patients in the local communities. And the Metro is

:01:02. > :01:06.reporting that members of a drug gang who lived a luxury lifestyle

:01:07. > :01:12.have been convicted by a court but ordered to pay ?24. While the

:01:13. > :01:17.Guardian claims that there is new doubt over Scottish party

:01:18. > :01:19.calculations over possible future earnings from international

:01:20. > :01:24.companies. We start David with the independence

:01:25. > :01:28.independence. A photograph there of a thoughtful looking George W Bush

:01:29. > :01:33.and the man with his back to us, that, we assume is Mr Tony Blair.

:01:34. > :01:38.That was at a NATO summit in Prague 2001. Two years before the Iraq war.

:01:39. > :01:40.We know that all of of the correspondent, the private

:01:41. > :01:46.correspondent between the two leaders will not be made public in

:01:47. > :01:51.the Chilcot report. And the reality is that the Chilcot report is very

:01:52. > :01:59.unlikely now to be published until after the general election, 2015. Of

:02:00. > :02:04.course it was initiated by Gordon Brown back in 2009. So an

:02:05. > :02:10.extraordinary period of time. Yes, the Independent has it here on the

:02:11. > :02:16.front page but I have to say to you, journalists will always, you know, I

:02:17. > :02:23.was one of them, absolutely publish, publish, publish. We should know.

:02:24. > :02:26.The Chilcot Inquiry should know. The problem with this, at one level, is

:02:27. > :02:30.that there are two people in the conversation. There is a man called

:02:31. > :02:36.the President of the United States. I have to tell you that when you go

:02:37. > :02:40.around the world and the British demand that this should all be

:02:41. > :02:44.published, in America a lot of people say, excuse me, there were

:02:45. > :02:49.two people in a private conversation, maybe you British

:02:50. > :02:55.don't regard it as private, we do. So, in the future, if this was

:02:56. > :02:59.published, and my instinct is why has it not been published? The

:03:00. > :03:11.reality is who is ever going to talk in confidence to a British Prime

:03:12. > :03:16.Minister again? Anne that is rail politics, and certainly Whitehall

:03:17. > :03:20.have made it clear that no American President will trust us again if we

:03:21. > :03:28.publish these. But the families? They are not happy. The phrase

:03:29. > :03:31.quotes and giveses, ie snippets of the conversation, ie everybody

:03:32. > :03:36.mentioned in it will be able to have sight of what could be written and

:03:37. > :03:42.then further reduced. They are not satisfied. They feel this is not

:03:43. > :03:45.enough. They thought that the Chilcot Inquiry would be a

:03:46. > :03:49.investigation of the conversations and the deliberations leading up to

:03:50. > :03:53.the war. That is what we were led to believe.

:03:54. > :03:57.The word whitewash has appeared on one paper, it has not even been

:03:58. > :04:01.published yet. And what about the word gives. The

:04:02. > :04:05.gives? Who is going to give the gives.

:04:06. > :04:10.What does it even mean? Yes. That is the real problem. But this was

:04:11. > :04:15.always the potential flaw of the inquiry.

:04:16. > :04:18.There are, to go back on the first point, there are suggestions that

:04:19. > :04:21.the Prime Minister is hoping it could be published before the

:04:22. > :04:28.general election. They are hoping to get it out by the end of the year.

:04:29. > :04:31.But it could go on and on. And those criticised will have the

:04:32. > :04:37.chance to answer Chilcot, how long will it take? He is hoping to speed

:04:38. > :04:44.that up. We will see. Exactly. Now, continuing with the Independent, the

:04:45. > :04:54.debt collectors hound the poor estover `` the poor estover tax

:04:55. > :04:59.credits, what is this about? The HMRC has made mistakes and people

:05:00. > :05:03.pointed out that they are receiving the wrong amount, and then the

:05:04. > :05:10.taxman says don't worry, they are right. Then HMRC decides that the

:05:11. > :05:16.wrong amount has been paid out and they are hounding these people for

:05:17. > :05:23.the money, reclaiming goods, calling them, texting them in a great deal

:05:24. > :05:29.of distress. It seems that if the mistake by HMRC and the person has

:05:30. > :05:35.pointed it out, I cannot see how the money should be reclaimed.

:05:36. > :05:40.And who are these people? They are private debt collectors, hired by

:05:41. > :05:47.HMRC, phoning the people, targeting them. Some of those targeted say

:05:48. > :05:52.that they feel harassed and frightened. Who is monitoring the

:05:53. > :05:56.activity of the private debt collectors, that is the question I

:05:57. > :06:01.would like answered. We are paying for the operation as taxpayers. I

:06:02. > :06:04.think we should be told if it is being done properly.

:06:05. > :06:08.There should be oversight of what is going on. But Iain Duncan Smith, and

:06:09. > :06:12.those who support the benefit changes, who want the Welfare Bill

:06:13. > :06:25.to come down, they would say look, we have to do what we can to get

:06:26. > :06:34.this money back. Also, we want to know if people who

:06:35. > :06:40.have money that is now due under tax avoidance schemes to be revealed how

:06:41. > :06:47.will they be chased for the cash? Will they be having people nothing

:06:48. > :06:51.on their door? I am playing devil's advocate. There has been a debate

:06:52. > :06:57.about reducing the Welfare Bill. It could be argued that the people who

:06:58. > :07:03.know how best to do this in chasing up those people who perhaps are over

:07:04. > :07:07.or have been deemed to have overclaimed or paid too much,

:07:08. > :07:11.whatever, that you need experts, independent experts who know what

:07:12. > :07:15.they are doing. People who know this field. And the suggestion could be

:07:16. > :07:20.that is what is happening but they are getting out of control? I am not

:07:21. > :07:25.questioning that if the money is owing it should be repaid but

:07:26. > :07:29.chasing people who cannot pay is that worth anybody's money? It is

:07:30. > :07:32.not worth the effort. And how it should be done. It is how it is

:07:33. > :07:36.done. This is the key.

:07:37. > :07:43.It is not the principle but how it is done that is extremely important.

:07:44. > :07:47.OK. On to the Guardian. New doubts over Scottish wealth, David. More

:07:48. > :07:53.figures this week. Everyone is confused. I suspect that the SNP are

:07:54. > :07:58.confused as much as the UK Government are confused.

:07:59. > :08:03.What to believe? And for the people who have to make the vote? Anne will

:08:04. > :08:07.give you a better version of what I can give you of what this is about.

:08:08. > :08:13.But we are going to get, you will have more and more of these figures.

:08:14. > :08:17.The "yes" and the "no"... It is hotting up, even our side of the

:08:18. > :08:25.border, you can see how this is hotting up. I just observe it. I

:08:26. > :08:30.worry that you are not going to have an overwhelming result we are yes,

:08:31. > :08:33.or an overwhelming "no". I think that is a dangerous situation.

:08:34. > :08:38.I think it is interesting. They are not trying to win the battle over

:08:39. > :08:42.the referendum on hearts and minds anymore. It is not about what it

:08:43. > :08:49.means to be Scottish. It is what it is worth to you to be Scottish. We

:08:50. > :08:54.are under an onslought of statistics. Douglas Alexander has

:08:55. > :09:03.one figure, Danny Alexander has another. And it has been pointed out

:09:04. > :09:08.that Scottish whiskis either UK or overseas owned, that the profits

:09:09. > :09:15.could flow elsewhere. They are saying don't look at GDP, look at

:09:16. > :09:20.GNI, that is a better measure of what all of this is worth to the of

:09:21. > :09:25.a Raj Scot. On that basis it is less than Alex Salmond is estimating. I

:09:26. > :09:30.am not sure if we are somewhere in the great debate about who owns what

:09:31. > :09:34.and what it is worth to the Scots, if we are comparing apples and pears

:09:35. > :09:39.but I think we should prepare for more of this. It is obviously how it

:09:40. > :09:41.has been decided that this battle will be fought, through the pockets.

:09:42. > :09:44.It is really extraordinary. It will be fought, through the pockets.

:09:45. > :09:49.It is really extraordinary. has been a radical shift this week. The

:09:50. > :09:54.feeling that you have to quantify to the Scots voter as to whether how

:09:55. > :09:57.much it is worth him or her to say "yes".

:09:58. > :10:07.Does it feel that is the wrong tactic? Well far from an Englishman

:10:08. > :10:13.who has had a few run`ins with the Scots at some football, to tell the

:10:14. > :10:18.Scots how they ought to be campaigning but Alex Salmond made a

:10:19. > :10:25.statement saying: Scotland is one of the wealthest countries in the

:10:26. > :10:35.world. More prosperous per head than the UK, France and Japan. I am sure

:10:36. > :10:39.he can sub`Stan sheet that claim. `` substantiate that claim but I am

:10:40. > :10:43.sure that in some ports of the `` parts of the world it woman come as

:10:44. > :10:51.a surprise. Part of the problem is that it is

:10:52. > :10:55.not clear how much oil is there in the seas off Scotland.

:10:56. > :11:00.It is easy to say it is running out quickly but for others to say that

:11:01. > :11:03.the reserves are there. For the technology to be able to get it

:11:04. > :11:09.there. Even the whisky is not there, it is

:11:10. > :11:15.80% overseas or UK`owned. But they are paying taxes, employing

:11:16. > :11:25.Scottish people to get it made. But still we are having a marc #k0678 ``

:11:26. > :11:29.microcosm debate here. This is interesting. I like this story. The

:11:30. > :11:35.sex and the drug trade has added to the GDP figure. The economy is doing

:11:36. > :11:38.well, partly because of the sex and the drugs trade in the United

:11:39. > :11:41.Kingdom. This is interesting.

:11:42. > :11:45.This is about the way that they managed to calculate how much drug

:11:46. > :11:47.dealing and the heat and the electricity required for its

:11:48. > :11:51.production. Making a bit of grass! Yeah, how

:11:52. > :11:56.much is being spent on that, how much is earned in prostitution, how

:11:57. > :12:01.the figures are collated, we are not told but... We have been told. If we

:12:02. > :12:07.are to believe the stories we have to be told.

:12:08. > :12:11.But significantly, GDP. How did they get this data? That is what we would

:12:12. > :12:15.like to know. What I love is: As economies develop

:12:16. > :12:21.and evolve, so do the statistics that we use to measure them. Now

:12:22. > :12:25.that is, it says obviously that they have been deliberating as to whether

:12:26. > :12:29.or not these unsavoury hidden economy trades should be included

:12:30. > :12:34.and they have decided yes, if there is enough money made it.

:12:35. > :12:41.There are specific figures. We are told according to the estimates,

:12:42. > :12:54.that there are 60,879 sex workers in the UK in 2009. There are more

:12:55. > :13:03.today. The ONS needs to tell us more about exactly what records it is

:13:04. > :13:06.keeping. It is coming from a combination of cannabis, cocaine,

:13:07. > :13:13.ecstasy and amphetamines. And these people do not pay taxes. I can spot

:13:14. > :13:21.a Nigel Farage line in this story. The move brings us into line with

:13:22. > :13:29.the European rules. It is all their fault! I forget now the state that

:13:30. > :13:33.has just legalised the sale in the United States. Maybe it is Oregon.

:13:34. > :13:37.They have made a fortune in taxes. One wonders if this kind of

:13:38. > :13:41.information might add grist to the mill of those who believe that you

:13:42. > :13:46.should have the state make some money out of this. Or have the guys

:13:47. > :13:55.at the ONS been watching the box set of making bad and thinking, there is

:13:56. > :14:00.money in a bad substances! It must drive you mad looking at these

:14:01. > :14:05.figures all day. It is an extraordinary thing. We are going to

:14:06. > :14:10.leave it there. David, you will be beer back in another hour to look ``

:14:11. > :14:16.you will be back in an hour to look at more of the stories. On BBC News,

:14:17. > :14:19.we will be reflecting on the disappointment of some of the

:14:20. > :14:22.families of soldiers who died in Iraq at the news that the full

:14:23. > :14:26.details of letters and correspondence between Tony Blair

:14:27. > :14:29.and George W Bush ran wide Britain went to war will not be published.

:14:30. > :14:34.Now, time for Sportsday.