:00:00. > :00:00.Saudi woman in Colchester say it is possible the killer carried out a
:00:00. > :00:17.similar knife attack in the town three months before.
:00:18. > :00:23.Welcome to look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow
:00:24. > :00:28.with me tonight the writer and political commentator Joe Phillips,
:00:29. > :00:33.and Nigel Nelson, political editor of the Sunday people. Tomorrow's
:00:34. > :00:36.front pages, let's start with the mail, with the headline school boy
:00:37. > :00:43.to jihadists, the mail on Sunday names one of the Britons it claims
:00:44. > :00:50.to have appeared in and Ricky militant Isis video. The Sunday
:00:51. > :00:54.Telegraph focuses on the case of two brothers ` Iraqi. You left the
:00:55. > :00:59.British suburb to fight in Syria. The Independent on Sunday quotes MI6
:01:00. > :01:03.which says 300 fighters from Syria already back in the UK. David
:01:04. > :01:07.Cameron under fire according to the Sunday Times for his apparent
:01:08. > :01:11.failure to stop Jean`Claude Juncker from becoming president of the
:01:12. > :01:14.European Commission. The observer tells asked Lord Kinnock has offered
:01:15. > :01:21.his support for the current Labour leader Ed Miliband. Finally 17
:01:22. > :01:25.million of us are in line to receive compensation from airlines, for
:01:26. > :01:30.delays and cancellations over the past six years. That is the claim in
:01:31. > :01:38.an exclusive report in the Sunday express. Let's kick off with the
:01:39. > :01:44.first of those. The Sunday Telegraph, the brilliant brothers
:01:45. > :01:48.who left British suburb for Jihad. These are the two boys who
:01:49. > :01:56.apparently appeared in the video that everyone has been talking about
:01:57. > :01:58.that you have been covering. Their father as "eloquently across the
:01:59. > :02:04.media today saying he is heartbroken. ` quite eloquently. It
:02:05. > :02:10.would appear they are part of a wider network. This is really
:02:11. > :02:16.worrying. We were talking about it, where do you get to the point where
:02:17. > :02:24.you find the balance between frightening people and, obviously
:02:25. > :02:29.there are all sorts of issues about not wanting to stir up any hatred.
:02:30. > :02:33.That it is a real problem. As we come onto the papers in a moment we
:02:34. > :02:37.will see there are more warnings coming from the former head of MI6
:02:38. > :02:43.about the numbers of people who have come to Britain having gone out to
:02:44. > :02:49.fight in Syria. In the wider area. It does seem to become a real
:02:50. > :02:52.problem. Interestingly Lord Carlile who was the government 's former
:02:53. > :02:55.anti`terrorism and Pfizer, who criticised the Home Office for
:02:56. > :03:02.scrapping special orders to deal with terror suspects. `
:03:03. > :03:05.anti`terrorism officer. It is the balance between civil liberties,
:03:06. > :03:09.tracking terrorism, catching people. And asking the question of
:03:10. > :03:14.why this happens. What is causing this? Is it disaffection or
:03:15. > :03:17.brainwashing? Radicalisation? I don't go for the brain washing line
:03:18. > :03:24.to much. Especially with these two lads. They are intelligent young
:03:25. > :03:31.man. They had a great career before them. They were a grade students.
:03:32. > :03:36.What makes them want to go out and and possibly, or probably get
:03:37. > :03:40.killed. The radicalisation going on here is something we have to look
:03:41. > :03:43.at. There are immediate things we could do. One thing that would help
:03:44. > :03:48.Yewtree, they went to Turkey to get to Syria. ` hugely. The Turks need
:03:49. > :03:54.to patrol their borders more carefully. When it comes down to why
:03:55. > :03:59.these people want to go, we have to start in schools. The only way of
:04:00. > :04:05.doing that, is for teachers to keep an eye out, for youngsters who are
:04:06. > :04:08.going in that direction. Becoming radicalised. Once they have gone,
:04:09. > :04:14.they will come back as trained killers. Then you get into the
:04:15. > :04:20.Michael Gove area, and the Trojan horse schools. I'm not sure teaching
:04:21. > :04:27.British values is quite the point. The issue there is to try to spot
:04:28. > :04:33.people on their way to being radicalised. And what is going on.
:04:34. > :04:39.You were talking a second ago about what the public can do. The idea is
:04:40. > :05:15.if people understand just how dangerous these people are,
:05:16. > :05:17.aware of. Who is around them what is going on, the only way to do that is
:05:18. > :05:24.for the security services to be able to tell us a bit more about the
:05:25. > :05:28.plots, 34 plants have been disrupted since seven slash seven, ` plots. A
:05:29. > :05:32.bit more about what would've happened if those plots had come to
:05:33. > :05:38.fruition. We have grown up watching things like spooks, you see films
:05:39. > :05:42.like this, really chilling recruitment videos. It is very
:05:43. > :05:48.fashioned barmaid and put together. But it looks like anything that
:05:49. > :05:52.could be a video game. ` very flash and well`made. If you have a younger
:05:53. > :05:58.brother watching something like that, you are not going to take much
:05:59. > :06:03.notice, that there is this element of, you almost need to, not horrify
:06:04. > :06:12.people, but say this is what happens. Does our generation, to
:06:13. > :06:17.older generations talk successfully to teenagers? Do you think? Or is
:06:18. > :06:23.there a generation problem? A lot of this is happening on social media.
:06:24. > :06:28.Through technology. And the people who are trying to govern it, are
:06:29. > :06:31.from a different generation. I'm the father of a teenager, and often
:06:32. > :06:37.talking to him can be very difficult. He is not going out to
:06:38. > :06:42.fight in Syria. This is a much more serious thing. People who are, lads
:06:43. > :06:49.like this, who will come back and be perfectly happy to kill us. That is
:06:50. > :06:54.a huge leap down the road. Talking their language, this comes down to
:06:55. > :06:59.what the Muslim community does. It works in the mosques, the scores.
:07:00. > :07:03.There are all sorts of ways of doing that. The first thing we have to do
:07:04. > :07:07.is understand where these guys are coming from. `` the schools. It is
:07:08. > :07:13.the same story on the front of the mail on Sunday, school boy to
:07:14. > :07:27.jihadists. They have a photograph of calm and school in 2010. `: Khan.
:07:28. > :07:34.His father has been speaking about it, it is absolutely, the father of
:07:35. > :07:42.the other bloke, he looks like any kid. Where was the trigger? What
:07:43. > :07:48.happened? Who did he meet? It is the awful thing, teenagers can become
:07:49. > :07:53.very idealistic. There is nothing new in that. It is when it turns
:07:54. > :07:58.into this sort of fanaticism and this terrible murderous fanaticism
:07:59. > :08:01.that it becomes something appalling. The Independent on Sunday front
:08:02. > :08:10.page, MI6 300 fighters from Syria now back in the UK. We are still in
:08:11. > :08:14.that same fascinating space of, an extremely important story for our
:08:15. > :08:18.society at the moment, but do we risk terrifying? People have to be,
:08:19. > :08:24.not so much terrifying people, but people have to be aware. 911
:08:25. > :08:30.happened, 77/7 happened, we know from recent history watched
:08:31. > :08:34.terrorists are capable of. It is not a question of terrifying them. If
:08:35. > :08:39.few years go by you stop thinking about it. It is that kind of thing,
:08:40. > :08:42.that kind of awareness, not being terrified me go back to normal
:08:43. > :08:49.business. They have one if you don't. What is important issue keep
:08:50. > :08:54.your eyes and ears open and watch out for what is going on. `` they
:08:55. > :08:58.have won. They are quoting a former terrorism chief at MI6. They are
:08:59. > :09:01.saying 300 of these people are already back here. If you think of
:09:02. > :09:06.these people are already back here. If you think about and to active
:09:07. > :09:14.number of people who posed a risk worth 600. `` the IRA at its
:09:15. > :09:17.height. They had already trained in warfare and explosives and weapons.
:09:18. > :09:25.Back here now. They pose a threat to us. We have with us to people `2
:09:26. > :09:30.people are well connected in the world of politics. Let's have a look
:09:31. > :09:38.at the Sunday Times. Don't mention... Prime Minister 's failure
:09:39. > :09:43.to curb the EU. This is one of those stories where it is incredibly
:09:44. > :09:50.important to Westminster village but actively engaged the nation to get
:09:51. > :09:55.excited about this? I can imagine you read here that in the breakfast
:09:56. > :09:59.tables of the country tomorrow, it is important of course but it is
:10:00. > :10:04.also incredibly dull and incredibly complicated. This is 54 of Britain's
:10:05. > :10:07.leading businessmen who have written a letter to the Sunday Times which
:10:08. > :10:10.is why they are leading with it on the front page, saying they're very
:10:11. > :10:14.concerned by the government 's failure to protect UK from European
:10:15. > :10:20.Union plans to tax the city and oppose new red tape. They are
:10:21. > :10:24.forcing David Cameron, I think this is quite interesting. Ed Miliband
:10:25. > :10:32.will come unto him in a minute, you is not having the best of weeks. We
:10:33. > :10:41.will come onto him. David Cameron is taking won this battle about Mr
:10:42. > :10:47.Juncker. You think why? David Cameron has got himself into a mess.
:10:48. > :10:52.He has called a referendum in 2017, and in slash out referendum. He has
:10:53. > :10:55.to come back with some kind of reforms in Europe. If Mr Juncker
:10:56. > :10:59.gets the job and he's pretty certain to get its now, getting those
:11:00. > :11:05.reforms will be much more difficult. David Cameron has now seen his other
:11:06. > :11:09.referendum, the one he decided to call in Scotland, is not going as
:11:10. > :11:14.easily as he thought. The same thing could happen here. We end up with no
:11:15. > :11:20.Scotland, and out of the EU. We would be isolated. He is joined to
:11:21. > :11:25.play as many last`ditch stand as he can. And he is beginning to look a
:11:26. > :11:30.bit desperate. He is going to try to call a vote of the European Council
:11:31. > :11:34.which is Europe's leaders, to see if they can block them. This is
:11:35. > :11:39.unprecedented, I'm not sure what status a vote would have. He will
:11:40. > :11:46.lose, nine of them have already come out in favour him. That makes you
:11:47. > :11:49.even more week. The word desperate this right but life would be much
:11:50. > :11:58.more difficult for him if Juncker does get the vote. You are both very
:11:59. > :12:03.interested as well, Kinnock defends Labour leader against "vindictive"
:12:04. > :12:12.agenda. A vindictive agenda, strong words. They are rather strong words.
:12:13. > :12:17.Lord Kinnock as he is now, should know better than anybody what it is
:12:18. > :12:24.like to have what he calls a hostile press. He had it in 1992. The point
:12:25. > :12:30.she is making is making his, Ed Miliband has now become a victim of
:12:31. > :12:36.a hostile press. `` he is making. The target of a hostile press. Not
:12:37. > :12:39.quite a victim. I think he is a victim. You cannot blame the press
:12:40. > :12:48.entirely for his poll ratings which are dire. Afflicted by a certain
:12:49. > :12:52.extent by the media but they are not making him do stupid things like
:12:53. > :12:57.having his photograph taken in the sun. That is ridiculous. When you
:12:58. > :13:05.get into a hall and people see you, looking weak, `` a hole, unfortunate
:13:06. > :13:09.photographs like that bacon sandwich video, everyone sneers and jokes,
:13:10. > :13:16.everyone look stupid. It piles it on, press come, they can smell
:13:17. > :13:22.blood. How much will Ed Miliband welcome Lord Kinnock 's backing?
:13:23. > :13:27.They are friends and Neil Kinnock that for the leadership anyway.
:13:28. > :13:35.Whether or not an intervention like this is actually helpful, I don't
:13:36. > :13:38.think blaming the press, blaming the messenger. You'll Kinnock had a
:13:39. > :13:40.rough time at the messenger. You'll Kinnock had a rough time and costs.
:13:41. > :13:47.Doesn't like us very much. `` Neil Kinnock. We can understand that. ``
:13:48. > :13:50.at the hands of the press. We are still focusing on Ed Miliband 's
:13:51. > :13:55.problems, which he won't welcome. The idea he is weird, he's not
:13:56. > :13:57.weird, he can be Prime Minister. Pupils at the moment show he is
:13:58. > :14:03.likely to be by Minister, `` the likely to be by Minister, `` the
:14:04. > :14:06.polls. He needs to do a bit about his personal ratings. Thank you for
:14:07. > :14:10.joining us. More on that later. We should mention major refit photo on
:14:11. > :14:14.the front of the Observer of Andy Murray meeting Rufus the Hawk. We
:14:15. > :14:21.will explain more as it comes. That is it for the papers for this hour.
:14:22. > :14:26.You will both be back at 11:30pm for another whizz through the stories
:14:27. > :14:30.making the news tomorrow. Stay with us, at 11pm we will bring you the
:14:31. > :14:39.latest as new details emerge about British man filmed in an apparent to
:14:40. > :14:41.had it video posted online. `` jihadist.