:00:00. > :00:00.of England has outlined ways to call some parts of the UK housing market.
:00:00. > :00:00.There will be new affordability tests on mortgages and limits on
:00:00. > :00:23.loans. Hallow and Wellcome for our
:00:24. > :00:28.lookahead what the papers will bring us tomorrow. Joining us this evening
:00:29. > :00:33.is the political commentator Joe Phillips and the Guardian columnist.
:00:34. > :00:39.Thank you for joining us. Let's whip through some of the front pages. In
:00:40. > :00:43.the Daily Express, a routine smear test could tell by the women are at
:00:44. > :00:48.risk from developing breast cancer. EU leaders are questioning the
:00:49. > :00:51.lifestyle of the man expected to be the next European Commission
:00:52. > :00:56.president, Jean`Claude Juncker. The Metro leaves on the abuse by Jimmy
:00:57. > :01:00.Savile. The Guardian also focuses on Jimmy Savile and questions over who
:01:01. > :01:05.was responsible for allowing him access to NHS hospitals. In the
:01:06. > :01:09.times, it says the population in Britain is the fastest`growing in
:01:10. > :01:14.the European Union. The financial Times focuses on the allegations
:01:15. > :01:18.facing Barclays macro finally, this is the Independent which says that
:01:19. > :01:24.Britain is in the midst of a green energy revolution. Good evening to
:01:25. > :01:27.you both. A very tough read for many readers of newspapers tomorrow. It
:01:28. > :01:35.does feature on the front pages, such as the Guardian. The headline,
:01:36. > :01:40.Jimmy Savile, rain of abuse across the NHS exposed. Romance looking at
:01:41. > :01:47.what we have learned today from the investigation. `` very much looking.
:01:48. > :01:50.It does take it forward. What we know has been catalogued and
:01:51. > :01:55.reported it in detail in many of the papers. It is also... This is
:01:56. > :02:00.reflecting on the political angle. Obviously, Jeremy Hunt, the Health
:02:01. > :02:05.Secretary, made the statement in the House of Commons in the afternoon.
:02:06. > :02:13.There is a sense about looking for responsibility. That is the question
:02:14. > :02:16.that a lot of people are asking. How could this have happened? Who was to
:02:17. > :02:20.blame? In a way, that has just been answered in the clip you have just
:02:21. > :02:24.shown. What is interesting is that if we know Currie, who was the
:02:25. > :02:29.minister in charge of Gary Medel out, and Jimmy Savile was accused of
:02:30. > :02:36.a lot of incidents at Broadmoor, she is quoted in the Guardian saying, I
:02:37. > :02:51.wish we had never seen hide nor hair of him will stop `` of him. There is
:02:52. > :02:54.also an independent enquiry being called by the Labour Party. Ken
:02:55. > :02:59.Clarke was Health Secretary at the time. I am not sure there is a lot
:03:00. > :03:07.to be gained by trying to score political points. This very much
:03:08. > :03:13.refers to the BBC programme, Panorama. They got access to
:03:14. > :03:17.paperwork at the time as well. Surely lessons can be learned. Of
:03:18. > :03:21.course they can. It is bigger than trying to say it was this government
:03:22. > :03:25.or that government all this political party or that political
:03:26. > :03:30.party. This is only the front page. A lot more coverage inside. There
:03:31. > :03:37.are police and other people involved as well. I am not defending
:03:38. > :03:40.politicians. Let's not use it because it is real stories about
:03:41. > :03:47.real people who have suffered really badly. Let's not turn it into
:03:48. > :03:53.political football. What Jeremy Hunt said in the House of Commons today,
:03:54. > :03:56.if it tells us anything, this is about people who are victims of
:03:57. > :04:03.abuse is not being listened to and not being felt that they would be
:04:04. > :04:08.believed. I kind of belief you. It should not become a party political
:04:09. > :04:11.battle but I think politics should obviously become part of it. People
:04:12. > :04:16.will want to know how the political structure has allowed this to
:04:17. > :04:24.happen. That is one of the reasons. They will want to know the children
:04:25. > :04:29.are safe. Of course they do. They also want to know the institutions
:04:30. > :04:35.will keep their children safe. Here, we are focusing on Edwina Currie,
:04:36. > :04:39.who signed off on the ability of Jimmy Savile to be in these
:04:40. > :04:42.hospitals. I think people will want a level of accountability, not least
:04:43. > :04:47.because what we know and what is coming up is so gruesome that people
:04:48. > :04:51.feel they need to tribute blame. That might not be a good thing. They
:04:52. > :04:54.also want to make sure there are mechanisms in place to make sure
:04:55. > :04:58.this will not happen again. Inevitably, there will be
:04:59. > :05:03.repercussions individuals and we will need to find out who did what
:05:04. > :05:11.along the line. You do not think this is the end of it. Absolutely
:05:12. > :05:16.not. I think we will have to investigate further. We must be
:05:17. > :05:21.careful about how we do it. There have been a lot of changes already.
:05:22. > :05:24.There have. The details of the story today are so gruesome it is a bit of
:05:25. > :05:29.a challenge for newspapers to work out how to deal with it. Let's have
:05:30. > :05:36.a look at the Metro, just to pick up on that. The headline is pretty
:05:37. > :05:42.stark. The Jimmy Savile sex files. DJ abuse children says the NHS.
:05:43. > :05:48.Papers like the Metro are by a lot of people. They are left on trains
:05:49. > :05:52.as well. It is a difficult story. Do you think it has been tackled
:05:53. > :05:57.sensitively? Not as sensitively as it could have been. That is the
:05:58. > :06:03.point. It is very difficult for newspapers to compete with online,
:06:04. > :06:09.instant stuff. I do worry, and I'm not saying he should `` kids should
:06:10. > :06:13.be wrapped in cop walks and protected from terrible things but
:06:14. > :06:17.the Metro lies around, discarded on buses and trains across the country.
:06:18. > :06:23.Your son or daughter is going to school tomorrow will pick it up.
:06:24. > :06:27.There is a bit too much detail. This is what editing is all about.
:06:28. > :06:30.Editors and picture editors had to decide every day which picture they
:06:31. > :06:33.use, whether they use a very gruesome picture whether they have a
:06:34. > :06:40.less gruesome picture, whether they crop something so it is not quite so
:06:41. > :06:44.within the copy as well. The problem is that the story here is the
:06:45. > :06:48.detail. We know the outline of the sort of thing that Jimmy Savile was
:06:49. > :06:51.up to. Here it is a detail. It is doubly difficult when they are
:06:52. > :06:55.deciding what to put into the newspaper when the stories about the
:06:56. > :07:00.detail of it. How much detail do you run? A lot of kids will see the news
:07:01. > :07:02.on television and see it in magazines and newspapers,
:07:03. > :07:06.particularly in papers like the Metro. That is a good thing. You
:07:07. > :07:14.want your children to be aware of the dangers. You want your children
:07:15. > :07:17.to know it is an issue in society. There is also the sense of, it is
:07:18. > :07:25.the balance that has ever been that, with editors on radio and
:07:26. > :07:32.television. How do you tell a story with not sensationalising it of
:07:33. > :07:37.terrifyingly quits out of you? Programmes like news and do tackle
:07:38. > :07:40.issues like that but it is how. I have not seen new sound since John
:07:41. > :07:44.Craven was doing it but that is another story. It would be
:07:45. > :07:49.interesting to note how they cover it. As you said, they covered
:07:50. > :07:56.Michael Jackson. Yes, it did cover Michael Jackson. The Daily Telegraph
:07:57. > :08:04.leads on a very different story. It was looking at the European Union
:08:05. > :08:09.and the goings`on in Brussels. It does not look like they are all
:08:10. > :08:13.falling out with each other, they are watching poppies being dropped.
:08:14. > :08:18.David Cameron alone and isolated in Brussels over his stand over
:08:19. > :08:23.Jean`Claude Juncker. It sounds like he wants to be. I think the look
:08:24. > :08:28.that Angela Merkel was giving him, if looks could kill, he would not be
:08:29. > :08:33.standing up straight. I thought, this is surely a joke. Is this
:08:34. > :08:39.absolutely the last ditch attempt that David Cameron is trying to
:08:40. > :08:46.discredit Jean`Claude Juncker? He has put himself in a corner. He is
:08:47. > :08:50.isolated. Whether or not Jean`Claude Juncker 's drinking is a problem.
:08:51. > :08:56.Apparently he has cognac for breakfast. That was not unknown for
:08:57. > :09:02.Churchill to have a drink before sunset. Is that the best they can
:09:03. > :09:05.come up with? Why has he put himself into this unnecessary corner and is
:09:06. > :09:21.actually looking a little bit ` and he has not had a good week `
:09:22. > :09:28.isolated. I'd our political editor `` our political editor said, there
:09:29. > :09:36.is a much wider picture about this. If he thinks Jean`Claude Juncker is
:09:37. > :09:42.not the right man, how has he gone about trying to stop him? Given the
:09:43. > :09:46.verdict on the EU that people pass at the last election, maybe he is
:09:47. > :09:50.not the right man. We hear that privately leaders in other countries
:09:51. > :09:54.think about. Then you come to the second issue. How did David Cameron
:09:55. > :09:59.go about trying to persuade them? There are chickens coming home to
:10:00. > :10:04.roost. It seems as if he does not have the relationship with the other
:10:05. > :10:08.EU leaders that would allow him to make a perfectly `` a perfectly
:10:09. > :10:16.reasonable point. I tag are you saying he is looking weak? If you
:10:17. > :10:21.detach yourself from Europe and how it really works, you need to engage
:10:22. > :10:27.with Europe. You cannot do it. That is what has happened. Dangerous
:10:28. > :10:33.times. We are going to stay with the Daily Telegraph. We are going to
:10:34. > :10:38.stay with the Daily Telegraph and rather exciting news, particularly
:10:39. > :10:45.for women. Cancer in general, women are offered hope of a blood test
:10:46. > :10:54.that can predict the risk of breast cancer. There is some real meat to
:10:55. > :10:58.this story. This research has been done At University College in
:10:59. > :11:04.London. What they have done is identified the DNA, as you say, the
:11:05. > :11:09.genetic likelihood of breast cancer, and they think they can develop
:11:10. > :11:13.within the next five years or so, a pretty simple blood test that could
:11:14. > :11:18.determine whether you are likely to get it. And whether you are likely
:11:19. > :11:27.to die from it. The severity of it. That is really important and there
:11:28. > :11:35.is very much a lot of publicity around Angelina Jolie, who decided
:11:36. > :11:39.to have a double mastectomy. That is something that people often talk
:11:40. > :11:40.about. This is a good news story. The Daily Express is also covering
:11:41. > :11:59.it. It's about striking the right
:12:00. > :12:02.emphasis and making sure you are not running too far ahead of what the
:12:03. > :12:10.research actually says, and especially something like this, it
:12:11. > :12:15.really is important that we don't make a cure`all for these things
:12:16. > :12:22.seem more hopeful than it really is. It is a job for editors. The Daily
:12:23. > :12:28.Express obviously runs a lot of health stories on its front pages
:12:29. > :12:40.but it has a responsibility to think carefully. We have got enough time
:12:41. > :12:45.to look at the times. It probably won't surprise many people that has
:12:46. > :12:54.been put down to immigration, but also increased birth rates as well.
:12:55. > :12:59.It is 64 million people, so we are the second most populist in Europe
:13:00. > :13:10.after Germany. The annual increase is just under 500,000. But it is
:13:11. > :13:18.immigration, births, what does it tell you? We are a very overcrowded,
:13:19. > :13:23.little island. With immigration, that causes higher birth rates, but
:13:24. > :13:30.this will be interesting politically as well because the government have
:13:31. > :13:36.been quite anti immigration intone, but now they know they will not meet
:13:37. > :13:42.their caps, they will probably have to sing a much kinder chin about
:13:43. > :13:47.immigration and maybe there are positive effects.