03/07/2014

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:00:00. > :00:00.thunderstorms from time to time. More details on the weekend on the

:00:00. > :00:23.website and you can follow us on Twitter.

:00:24. > :00:32.We had Randeep Ramesh, social affairs editor for the Guardian, and

:00:33. > :00:40.Daisy McAndrew, the broadcaster. Tonight, on the Daily Express, the

:00:41. > :00:44.story about tighter aviation security internationally. The Metro

:00:45. > :00:51.talks about a multi`million pound lottery scam. The Guardian talks

:00:52. > :00:59.about bringing large sections of the rail network back under British

:01:00. > :01:03.control. The main picture on the Daily Mail of the Canadian tennis

:01:04. > :01:09.player, Bouchard, celebrating winning her semi`final at Wimbledon.

:01:10. > :01:17.The i says that extra security checks at airports are likely to

:01:18. > :01:21.become permanent. Hammers on's tax affairs are being handed over,

:01:22. > :01:26.according to the Financial Times. The Scotsman reports on a funding

:01:27. > :01:31.boost that is promised to Glasgow if they vote against independence.

:01:32. > :01:35.Let's begin with the bomb plot we have been hearing about all day. It

:01:36. > :01:42.is on the front of the Daily Mirror. .

:01:43. > :02:00.There is an x`ray, as most airports can do. This man is meant to be Al

:02:01. > :02:09.Qaeda's top bomb maker. At the moment we are not seeing delays, but

:02:10. > :02:12.there is a heightened sense of awareness about this new kind of

:02:13. > :02:16.bond that is pretty much invisible to import equipment. It has been

:02:17. > :02:24.doing the rounds for a few years, they must have a credible threat on

:02:25. > :02:27.which they are acting. There was a delay of about an hour at

:02:28. > :02:34.Manchester, perhaps that is just normal. This chap has been making

:02:35. > :02:40.this stuff for a couple of years, and attempted to blow up a Saudi

:02:41. > :02:47.Prince by surgically implanting explosives into his brother. It is

:02:48. > :02:54.terrifying, on the face of it. But we still wait for any of this

:02:55. > :02:57.stuff... We don't want this stuff to happen, but it is a kind of threat

:02:58. > :03:03.with evidence. Whether that is credible or not, the jury is out. If

:03:04. > :03:08.we do see increased delays, which my understanding is, there are two

:03:09. > :03:13.types of bombs that authorities are concerned about. New types of bombs,

:03:14. > :03:22.either embedded within the body, which is why we might be subjected

:03:23. > :03:26.to these full body scanners, or in laptops. A new type that can't be to

:03:27. > :03:30.take it, and apparently security officials are already been told to

:03:31. > :03:34.turn every laptop on and off as it goes through security. That would

:03:35. > :03:41.clearly increased the delay timers become up to the biggest and busiest

:03:42. > :03:47.summer holiday time. I'm sure the threat is there, as the Daily Mirror

:03:48. > :03:50.says, from jihadis, but it also seems convenient that we are hearing

:03:51. > :03:57.a lot of stories about British kids over there who might be coming home,

:03:58. > :04:01.and the stories seem to be, these other men, these are the terrorists

:04:02. > :04:04.who were hiding bombs in their bodies somewhere. It is connecting

:04:05. > :04:12.what is going on there with security here. Isn't one of the suggestions

:04:13. > :04:25.for why it is happening now that this bomb maker has recently pledged

:04:26. > :04:29.allegiance to this new caliphate, these Islamists who are running

:04:30. > :04:34.rampant across Syria and Iraq. He is part of their picture, they have

:04:35. > :04:42.extra capabilities and could wreak havoc here, not just in the Middle

:04:43. > :04:48.East. ISIS emerged, the sky is in Yemen, and there is supposed to be a

:04:49. > :04:53.deal done. It seems far`fetched to suggest that it has already reached

:04:54. > :04:57.British jihadis fighting in Syria and Iraq, and they will return to

:04:58. > :05:01.fight in the UK. There are hundreds of people who have gone from this

:05:02. > :05:07.country to join what is happening in Syria, perhaps intending for it to

:05:08. > :05:11.be an humanitarian effort, then they get sidetracked. A lot of them are

:05:12. > :05:15.going to come home, is it not reasonable to assume that a small

:05:16. > :05:17.proportion of them may use their newfound skills in a way we don't

:05:18. > :05:23.want them to. I think they would surely want to, but whether they are

:05:24. > :05:32.in the kind of league... He is the Western world's number one terrorist

:05:33. > :05:36.bogeyman. The CIA thought they had killed him half a dozen times, but

:05:37. > :05:41.then he would pop up again and it wasn't him they had killed. He is a

:05:42. > :05:46.very special character, and the idea that a lot of the foot soldiers

:05:47. > :05:49.would have any connection with him is strange. But the threat must be

:05:50. > :05:54.real, or they wouldn't be putting extra measures in unless they want

:05:55. > :06:11.the publicity for some other reason that we don't know about. Fury as

:06:12. > :06:18.banks and Wonga are sending debt collection threats. There is no

:06:19. > :06:21.suggestion that banks are hiding behind third party names and sending

:06:22. > :06:26.threatening letters to customers. It seems that a lot of the banks what

:06:27. > :06:30.they do say is that it was clearly printed in the small print that

:06:31. > :06:37.these companies whose names or no relation to the banks or energy

:06:38. > :06:40.companies who were using them to threaten people and get them to pay

:06:41. > :06:50.up. They do say it was there in the small print, but why make up names?

:06:51. > :06:57.Stirling Collection was Scottish Power. You wouldn't think that these

:06:58. > :07:00.were the legal departments of the companies involved, you would assume

:07:01. > :07:05.that your case had been referred to a debt collector, and that suddenly

:07:06. > :07:07.you would get a bang on the door, that your credit rating might be

:07:08. > :07:17.going through the floor. You would be very frightened. Barkley say they

:07:18. > :07:20.have now dropped the pretence, Lloyds have said they are phasing

:07:21. > :07:32.out there name of their solicitors, and Scottish Power have said it was

:07:33. > :07:41.in the small print. `` Barclays Bank. You can't think they were

:07:42. > :07:43.still in that we face. What I find extraordinary is that they know how

:07:44. > :07:48.unpopular they are. Since the credit crunch, both energy companies and

:07:49. > :07:55.banks, they have been public villains. Most chairmen that I have

:07:56. > :07:59.interviewed have admitted they have a trust issue. We understand that we

:08:00. > :08:04.have to get that trust back for our customers. You think, wouldn't you

:08:05. > :08:08.do a root and branch? All departments tell me if there is

:08:09. > :08:15.anything... I think we just object to them making money. There is a

:08:16. > :08:21.perception we are being squeezed by energy companies as gas budgets fall

:08:22. > :08:25.in our bills go up, or banks try to recover their bad landing on the

:08:26. > :08:29.backs of honest borrowers. And that there has been endless dishonesty. I

:08:30. > :08:34.think it is fair to target them for that. Let's move on. If the Scots go

:08:35. > :08:40.it alone will be heartbroken, says the PM. He has been speaking in

:08:41. > :08:44.Perth today, 76 days tomorrow until the referendum on Scottish

:08:45. > :08:48.independence. Tugging on the heartstrings and a little sweetener

:08:49. > :08:53.of ?500 million for Glasgow if they vote to stay with the union. They

:08:54. > :09:02.have lost a lot of the arguments with the Scots. Rory Stewart, who is

:09:03. > :09:05.a Borders MP for the Tories, and now chairman of the first Select

:09:06. > :09:12.Committee, actually said this. We have to use the argument of love,

:09:13. > :09:14.because we love them and we don't want them to go. He should be

:09:15. > :09:21.heartbroken, because he might not be a PM. He won't just be heartbroken,

:09:22. > :09:27.he'll be unemployed as well! You can't go to the Queen and say, I've

:09:28. > :09:32.lost Scotland, and survive! If it was a yes vote, David Cameron would

:09:33. > :09:36.not be able to stay as leader of the party and as PM, but ironically the

:09:37. > :09:39.Conservative party will be bolstered, because they will have

:09:40. > :09:44.lost Scotland, where they have no votes. Labour will have lost

:09:45. > :09:51.Scotland where they have many votes. Many MPs are saying, it is

:09:52. > :09:56.extraordinary, everyone would lose. David Cameron would lose short`term,

:09:57. > :10:00.the Tories would win in the long`term. On the playground figures

:10:01. > :10:05.have changed, the emphasis has switched in the last few years.

:10:06. > :10:09.Social networking sites are the most common places that children are

:10:10. > :10:15.bullied. It is all hidden away, and parents and teachers are not

:10:16. > :10:19.necessarily aware of it. It is a phenomena and at the age, isn't it?

:10:20. > :10:21.Children spend all this time interacting with these machines

:10:22. > :10:24.which allows them to interact with their friends, rather than

:10:25. > :10:30.interacting with their friends. To be bullied face`to`face. The last

:10:31. > :10:36.time I looked, I think Facebook was falling down the rankings. It is a

:10:37. > :10:48.bit pase, because your parents are on it! I did a big piece last year

:10:49. > :10:52.about teenage depression, and social networking was part of this. They

:10:53. > :10:56.have to create this perfect world they live in, with thousands of

:10:57. > :10:59.friends that they don't even know. It is this online perfect world but

:11:00. > :11:09.it bears no relation to their reality. The Guardian. State bid for

:11:10. > :11:18.rail franchises is under late. Contracts are up for renewal, Andy

:11:19. > :11:26.suggestion that the state could take on parts of the rail network. There

:11:27. > :11:30.could be a staggered return to renationalisation. We don't want it

:11:31. > :11:34.to look like British rail used to. I think actually most people have

:11:35. > :11:42.forgotten how awful British Rail was. Rail lines and rail services

:11:43. > :11:46.are massively better than they ever have been before. But not perfect.

:11:47. > :11:53.Not perfect by any stretch. Daily commuters will be testifying to

:11:54. > :11:58.that. But what sticks in the throat of many politicians and civil

:11:59. > :12:03.servants is that there is all that money swirling around, going into

:12:04. > :12:09.the private hands, and it could be going into the Treasury coffers. It

:12:10. > :12:15.would be popular with the unions, I'm not sure how realistic it is.

:12:16. > :12:24.Would it be popular with voters? Know, and I think it would probably

:12:25. > :12:29.dampen some of the Labour argument. It is very popular with Tory voters,

:12:30. > :12:33.surprisingly. Ed Miliband has had this record playing for some time

:12:34. > :12:38.about how it is absurd that foreign companies here making big profits

:12:39. > :12:44.from reddish rail passengers `` British. Of course, he can point at

:12:45. > :12:49.the massive mess up that transport made two years ago. Something good

:12:50. > :12:57.came out of it, because the east coastline is now doing well, better

:12:58. > :13:02.than it was predicted to do. A Labour Party spokesman has said we

:13:03. > :13:08.will set out our policy at the appropriate time. We have always

:13:09. > :13:14.been clear we want a good deal for the fare payer and the taxpayer. The

:13:15. > :13:18.two aren't necessarily the same. People who never use the trains

:13:19. > :13:26.might think, why on earth should we be effectively subsidising rail

:13:27. > :13:30.networks that we don't use? We all do that anyway, so we might get

:13:31. > :13:33.something back. It sticks in the throat, not just that we could get

:13:34. > :13:38.something back, but foreign governments are all getting money

:13:39. > :13:44.out of British Railways and British people buying their tickets. So you

:13:45. > :13:54.can see this sense of it, but as you were saying, it does muddy the

:13:55. > :14:07.message of Labour trying to get votes. Here we have, a banker pays

:14:08. > :14:12.Tories a large amount of money for a game with the PM and Mayor. This is

:14:13. > :14:18.a way of giving the party some money. It is a curious story,

:14:19. > :14:22.because they were issuing so many denials through the day, until

:14:23. > :14:25.finally they admitted it was the banker wife of the former Russian

:14:26. > :14:35.deputy finance minister who paid the money. It adds to this swirl of

:14:36. > :14:44.Russian money around the Conservative party. Ill`advised

:14:45. > :14:53.friends. Is she a reporter? One of the problems that politicians and

:14:54. > :14:58.reporters get themselves into, is denying that part of it is true.

:14:59. > :15:07.There is the impression that it is not true. It was this man's wife,

:15:08. > :15:11.and they denied that, she made a big donation. If you buy something in an

:15:12. > :15:18.auction, this not count as an ordinary donation? Is that not a way

:15:19. > :15:25.to get around the donation rules? This raised about ?1 million last

:15:26. > :15:32.year, this kind of thing, so ?160,000 seems quite a lot. That is

:15:33. > :15:38.the Papers for this evening. And you to our guests, Daisy McAndrew and

:15:39. > :15:44.Randeep Ramesh. We will be looking at the danger facing the US borders

:15:45. > :15:47.as it warns of a credible terrorist threat. Now, it is time for World

:15:48. > :15:50.Cup Sportsday.