04/07/2014

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:00:15. > :00:19.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

:00:20. > :00:22.us tomorrow. With me are David Williamson, political editor of

:00:23. > :00:32.Western Mail, and broadcaster and author Dreda Say Mitchell.

:00:33. > :00:35.Tomorrow's front pages. "No remorse" ` the Sun leads on the jailing of

:00:36. > :00:38.Rolf Harris, as does the Express, which says victims are launching

:00:39. > :00:41.compensation claims against his ?11 million estate. The Independent says

:00:42. > :00:49.a major Tory donor is the favourite to take over the schools watchdog

:00:50. > :00:52.Ofsted. But critics say David Ross could face a conflict of interest

:00:53. > :00:54.because he founded a chain of academies. Statins could be used to

:00:55. > :01:02.prevent breast cancer according to the Mirror, which reports on the

:01:03. > :01:05.findings of a new study. The Times says the PM has secretly agreed to

:01:06. > :01:09.transfer more policing powers to the EU. The former News of the World

:01:10. > :01:12.editor, Andy Coulson, is pictured on the Guardian. He was sentenced to 18

:01:13. > :01:15.months in jail today for conspiracy to hack phones. And in the FT, after

:01:16. > :01:18.the loan firm Wonga was caught sending fake lawyers' letters to

:01:19. > :01:25.chase up debts from customers, there are fears banks could be employing

:01:26. > :01:32.similar tactics. Let's begin with the sentencing of Rolf Harris, the

:01:33. > :01:39.entertainer has been said to prison for five years and nine months. This

:01:40. > :01:47.is how the Sun is reporting it. No remorse, jailed for nearly six

:01:48. > :01:51.years. Inside the paper as well is a picture of how he got to court this

:01:52. > :01:59.morning from his beautiful home in Berkshire on the terms, and he went

:02:00. > :02:03.by boat, to begin with. It is like some bizarre Wind in the Willows

:02:04. > :02:08.scene of messing about in boats, and then a few hours later being on your

:02:09. > :02:12.way to jail, which does captures the utter fall from grace that we have

:02:13. > :02:19.just witnessed over the last few weeks. It is astonishing, and it

:02:20. > :02:24.couldn't be a greater contrast. It is, really, and the fact that he

:02:25. > :02:28.joked with reporters throughout the trial as if everything was all

:02:29. > :02:32.right, and here we go, he doesn't want to see reporters. This is a way

:02:33. > :02:37.for him not to have to deal with them. If you look there is another

:02:38. > :02:45.picture of him, and he does appear be smiling and is wearing one of his

:02:46. > :02:49.trademark colourful ties. It all feels very odd and very weird, and I

:02:50. > :02:55.wondered, did he take on board the full impact of what this trial was

:02:56. > :02:59.actually about, really? One commentator said she only realised

:03:00. > :03:05.how serious it was when he refused to accept any responsibility for it

:03:06. > :03:08.by pleading not guilty. Now, the suggestion is that some of his

:03:09. > :03:12.victims were want to seek compensation, but the reporting I

:03:13. > :03:16.have read suggests that he is not likely to have to pay compensation,

:03:17. > :03:23.although he will have to pay prosecution costs. There is also the

:03:24. > :03:27.issue of what next. It is a much wider story of other celebrities who

:03:28. > :03:33.have been convicted of offences like this. Should there be a wider

:03:34. > :03:38.enquiry? A royal commission is what some campaigners are calling for.

:03:39. > :03:47.Absolutely, this is almost like a truth and reconciliation process, in

:03:48. > :03:50.terms of opening up the history of a past in which there seems to have

:03:51. > :03:57.been a strange sense in which power, whether it was cultural power

:03:58. > :04:06.or celebrity, justifies a way of life which now strikes us as both

:04:07. > :04:12.bizarre and abhorrent. When I was thinking about when I was growing

:04:13. > :04:17.up, I won't say what era... The way in which some men used to treat

:04:18. > :04:22.women and young girls, there is a whole feeling about our society. I

:04:23. > :04:30.hope this is a line about how we have really moved on as a society as

:04:31. > :04:37.well. The Western Mail has it on the front pages well. Has it really

:04:38. > :04:41.changed? I think it has. This week, some women in the media were talking

:04:42. > :04:48.about a strategist that they would use back in the 70s and 80s, when

:04:49. > :04:52.male colleagues were inappropriate with `` about strategies they would

:04:53. > :04:57.use. Now, I think a woman would turn around and say, hang on a minute,

:04:58. > :05:02.that is inappropriate. Before, I don't think women would vocalise it.

:05:03. > :05:11.They might, they tended to use their bodies to say, don't do that, but

:05:12. > :05:18.they would be more vocal now. There are charities that look after the

:05:19. > :05:25.interests of children, but I think employers are a lot more useful

:05:26. > :05:28.nowadays. Every youth club or school or church is now so aware of the

:05:29. > :05:35.responsibility of people not to turn a blind eye to something that

:05:36. > :05:38.appears dodgy. There is another set of sentences being handed down

:05:39. > :05:45.today. This time regarding the phone hacking trials. Andy Coulson, former

:05:46. > :05:49.editor of the News of the World, former head of communications for

:05:50. > :05:54.David Cameron, jailed for 18 months for conspiring to have telephones.

:05:55. > :05:58.The judge saying some fairly serious things, that he must have known

:05:59. > :06:09.about what was going on and allowed it to happen and even encouraged it

:06:10. > :06:12.. I think he must have known, and there is the springboard about

:06:13. > :06:17.people being in power, you can't just do what you want. The thing

:06:18. > :06:23.that really sticks is the Milly Dowler story. I think what if that

:06:24. > :06:26.was my daughter? What if that was your child? How would any parent

:06:27. > :06:32.feel? I think the sentence he got was correct. There is another story

:06:33. > :06:35.we must talk about with Guardian, moved to tighten terror laws in the

:06:36. > :06:38.wake of the writ killing. A great deal of concern about the potential

:06:39. > :06:44.radicalisation of young men travelling from this country to

:06:45. > :06:49.either help out in humanitarian ways in Syria and Iraq, and perhaps being

:06:50. > :06:53.drawn into the fighting. Concern that the government may use a report

:06:54. > :06:58.next week from the intelligence and Security committee, into the murder

:06:59. > :07:03.of Lee Rigby in Woolwich, to press for emergency anti` terror

:07:04. > :07:09.legislation. This causes concern is for civil liberties groups.

:07:10. > :07:17.Absolutely. The debate seems to be about, although they meet behind

:07:18. > :07:22.closed doors, which is frustrating as it would be fascinating. How

:07:23. > :07:31.these characters are able to move with such disastrous consequences

:07:32. > :07:36.because surveillance was not empowered, was it simply a case of a

:07:37. > :07:39.bureaucratic disaster? That is the last thing that many people,

:07:40. > :07:47.especially the civil liberties community, is an arms race of, let's

:07:48. > :07:53.have another law, without tackling the problem of radicalisation. The

:07:54. > :07:58.law enforcement aspect is a huge one, but so is intellectual

:07:59. > :08:03.engagement and understanding the worldview of young people that we

:08:04. > :08:09.have seen crossing into Syria, that actually religious and political

:08:10. > :08:16.ideas are so far beyond the Ken of mainstream Britain, that it excites

:08:17. > :08:20.people enough to put their lives on the line. Isn't it fascinating that

:08:21. > :08:28.there are hundreds of people going to try to help out or join the so

:08:29. > :08:39.many of them are potentially, could be radicalised, and then bring the

:08:40. > :08:47.ideas home. Art precautions a good idea? These young people with their

:08:48. > :08:51.ideas, and you make a very good point, David, most of them feel they

:08:52. > :08:54.are doing something they need to do. The issue will be, how do you prove

:08:55. > :08:59.how many of them are going to be radicalised, and you have to be very

:09:00. > :09:01.careful that you don't stamp a label on all of them, just because they

:09:02. > :09:09.believe in helping justice in another country, as they would see

:09:10. > :09:14.it. For me, there is a bigger issue. Every time we talk about this and we

:09:15. > :09:19.use terms like UK Muslims as has been used here, demonising a whole

:09:20. > :09:23.big group of people. I hope, as I said before, it is done

:09:24. > :09:33.sensitively, and it doesn't stigmatise people who are Muslims,

:09:34. > :09:37.and people who are British Muslims. The Independent, we have David

:09:38. > :09:48.Ross, the carphone warehouse multimillionaire. `` Carphone

:09:49. > :09:55.Warehouse. He has been involved with founding something like 25

:09:56. > :10:01.academies. This has to be impartial. What everybody says about Baroness

:10:02. > :10:06.Sally Morgan, who was the previous chair, was that she was very

:10:07. > :10:10.impartial, and she actually commanded quite a lot of cross`party

:10:11. > :10:18.respect. That is what the next chair has to do. However, if they are

:10:19. > :10:23.involved in 25 academies, I don't think they should be able to do the

:10:24. > :10:27.job. I don't see how they can be a part of it. This man himself, David

:10:28. > :10:36.Ross, wouldn't be coming in and doing inspections, would he? He

:10:37. > :10:39.would be a step removed from that. The Department of Education is very

:10:40. > :10:44.keen to stress that the normal processes are being followed. It is

:10:45. > :10:49.so interesting that apparently, according to this story, is that one

:10:50. > :10:52.of the key aspects we are looking for is someone who understands

:10:53. > :11:01.business, and if you should see and systems. It just shows how much the

:11:02. > :11:06.education culture has been transformed already. It hasn't been

:11:07. > :11:10.transformed, they want to transform it. There is a report here about a

:11:11. > :11:16.parents group saying, hang on a minute, this is not transformational

:11:17. > :11:21.education. I think this is about politics, and at the heart of it it

:11:22. > :11:24.is not about education. The Department of Education assures us

:11:25. > :11:30.that an independent panel will decide and then only recommend to

:11:31. > :11:41.ministers a suitable list of candidates. The Times. Cameron opens

:11:42. > :11:46.the door to DNA sharing. Explain to us what this agreement is? This is

:11:47. > :11:50.something that will make David Cameron choke over his muesli in the

:11:51. > :11:55.morning, moreover his nightcap tonight. Just a week after

:11:56. > :11:59.Jean`Claude Juncker and the great adventures there, we suddenly find

:12:00. > :12:05.that apparently Britain may be co`operating on a DNA database with

:12:06. > :12:12.the European superstate. It is a grand drama, and Jacob Rees Mogg, a

:12:13. > :12:17.leading Euro skip it, has this story. Talking about further

:12:18. > :12:21.surrendered to Brussels, which shows the language in which this is

:12:22. > :12:27.painted. It will be interesting to know who has leaked this report. We

:12:28. > :12:30.have been talking about the apparent need for greater surveillance, and

:12:31. > :12:38.the suggestion there might be more emergency powers. Is this not just

:12:39. > :12:43.cooperation with the EU? We are talking about a database! What

:12:44. > :12:46.really shocked me, was that I didn't realise Britain had one of the

:12:47. > :12:49.largest database is in the world, and I think it is five times larger

:12:50. > :12:53.than you would find in Europe. Can you imagine you have your DNA on a

:12:54. > :12:58.database, you don't know who it is being shared with. Because it is

:12:59. > :13:04.quite complex, they are saying they are not sure there won't be false

:13:05. > :13:12.hits in relation to DNA. Also, with all be talks we get about different

:13:13. > :13:16.ethnic groups, black people, how much DNA they have represented on

:13:17. > :13:19.public databases, I really worry about this and I think civil

:13:20. > :13:24.liberties groups should be jumping up and down and saying, we don't

:13:25. > :13:29.want this. But we want to be kept safe. I I don't want someone else in

:13:30. > :13:39.another European country to have access to my DNA? Do you want them

:13:40. > :13:48.to have access to it here? No, I don't. Things can end up on database

:13:49. > :13:56.is, and you don't always need to have done something wrong. The Tour

:13:57. > :14:01.de France. The cyclists set up from Harewood, just outside Leeds

:14:02. > :14:06.tomorrow. We have just heard that six riders have tested positive for

:14:07. > :14:12.Wensleydale cheese. It is nice to see the tour, getting the Yorkshire

:14:13. > :14:20.treatment. Absolutely, they won't want to leave! Someone I think near

:14:21. > :14:26.Wakefield, has built an Eiffel Tower to make them all feel at home. I

:14:27. > :14:30.think it is great. The bigger story is about the kind of doping scandals

:14:31. > :14:42.that have been going on in cycling. There is a fabulous documentary

:14:43. > :14:47.about Armstrong that is fantastic. There is the undercurrent of that as

:14:48. > :14:53.well. Thank you to my guests for coming in and talking us through the

:14:54. > :14:56.front pages. At midnight, disgraced entertainer Rolf Harris begins his

:14:57. > :15:00.sentence for indecent assault against young girls. Coming up next,

:15:01. > :15:07.World Cup Sportsday.